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US officials have blamed Russian warplanes for the deadly attack | :00:00. | :00:14. | |
on an aid convoy in Syria which destroyed 18 lorries | :00:15. | :00:17. | |
packed with supplies and killed at least 20 people. | :00:18. | :00:20. | |
We have a special report on face-down restraint - | :00:21. | :00:28. | |
the discredited method of controlling mental health | :00:29. | :00:29. | |
patients which shows it's still being used | :00:30. | :00:31. | |
If they can do it to me, who is somebody with no history of violence | :00:32. | :00:45. | |
or aggression or resistance at all, who rarely raises my voice in that | :00:46. | :00:50. | |
sort of situation, who is quiet and withdrawn, then they can do it with | :00:51. | :00:52. | |
anyone. Also on the programme: And | :00:53. | :01:01. | |
homophobic abuse on the terraces. We'll ask why football is so far | :01:02. | :01:03. | |
behind other sports? Hello and welcome to the programme. | :01:04. | :01:17. | |
We're live until 11am. We're also talking about staff | :01:18. | :01:22. | |
shortages in social care and asking if the Brexit vote is already | :01:23. | :01:25. | |
leading to a decline in EU workers Plus it is make your mind up time | :01:26. | :01:28. | |
for Labour Party members with the deadline for choosing | :01:29. | :01:34. | |
a new leader at lunchtime. Are you one of those | :01:35. | :01:36. | |
who never got a ballot paper? Do get in touch on all the stories | :01:37. | :01:41. | |
we're talking about this morning - use the hashtag Victoria Live | :01:42. | :01:45. | |
and If you text, you will be charged A charity said four of its medical | :01:46. | :01:48. | |
staff were killed overnight. The United States says it's holding | :01:49. | :01:59. | |
Russia responsible for the bombing of a United Nations organised aid | :02:00. | :02:06. | |
convoy in Syria on Monday night. Moscow has furiously | :02:07. | :02:09. | |
denied any involvement. The smouldering remains of food | :02:10. | :02:11. | |
and medical kit that were supposed to help thousands of vulnerable | :02:12. | :02:14. | |
Syrians. At least 20 people died in this | :02:15. | :02:17. | |
attack and the US has no doubt There only could have been two | :02:18. | :02:20. | |
entities responsible, either the Syrian regime | :02:21. | :02:25. | |
or the Russian government. In any event, we hold the Russian | :02:26. | :02:27. | |
government responsible for air US officials say their intelligence | :02:28. | :02:30. | |
shows two Russian attack aircraft were in the skies above the aid | :02:31. | :02:41. | |
convoy at the precise The UN used blunt language | :02:42. | :02:43. | |
to convey its anger. It's sickening, it's disgusting, | :02:44. | :02:49. | |
and if it is proved to be deliberate, it would | :02:50. | :02:51. | |
amount to a war crime. But Russia is adamant it | :02:52. | :02:56. | |
played no part. It released this drone footage | :02:57. | :02:58. | |
claiming to show the convoy being escorted by rebel fighters | :02:59. | :03:02. | |
with a mortar on a pick-up truck. It claims the damage was caused | :03:03. | :03:05. | |
by fire on the ground, As the blame game unfurls, | :03:06. | :03:07. | |
diplomats at the UN General Assembly in New York still work to salvage | :03:08. | :03:15. | |
the temporary ceasefire deal But you don't need to be a body | :03:16. | :03:18. | |
language expert to spot the tension between US Secretary | :03:19. | :03:25. | |
of State John Kerry and his Russian The US insists hopes | :03:26. | :03:27. | |
for a further truce are not dead, but in the meantime there will be no | :03:28. | :03:33. | |
further aid convoys, as the UN seeks to protect the lives | :03:34. | :03:35. | |
of its workers. Steve Rosenberg is our | :03:36. | :03:44. | |
correspondent in Moscow. Steve there had been hopes of | :03:45. | :03:54. | |
co-operation between America and Russia if the ceasefire had | :03:55. | :03:58. | |
according to plan. What is the expectation on where all of this | :03:59. | :04:04. | |
goes now? Well, I think there is pessimism about future co-operation. | :04:05. | :04:08. | |
Certainly the Russians are furiously denying any involvement in that | :04:09. | :04:12. | |
attack on the UN aid convoy. The spokesperson for the Russian Foreign | :04:13. | :04:15. | |
Ministry said that Russia had nothing to do with that situation, | :04:16. | :04:19. | |
that there were no facts to prove otherwise. Earlier the Russian | :04:20. | :04:24. | |
Foreign Minister in New York giving an interview to Russian state | :04:25. | :04:27. | |
television claimed there were no Russian planes in the area at the | :04:28. | :04:32. | |
time of the attack and no Syrian planes in the area as well. Let me | :04:33. | :04:35. | |
give you a flavour of what the Russian papers are saying about the | :04:36. | :04:37. | |
situation. This is the Government paper. And it says the rebels knew | :04:38. | :04:45. | |
about the convoy suggesting it was the Syrian rebels who were | :04:46. | :04:47. | |
responsible for the attack. And it says it is a strange coincidence | :04:48. | :04:52. | |
that the US State Department has accused Russian pilots of having | :04:53. | :04:57. | |
something to do with the attack so soon after it was the planes of the | :04:58. | :05:03. | |
US-led coalition who bombed the Syrian army on Saturday. This is | :05:04. | :05:08. | |
another very pro-Kremlin paper. It has a similar message and it claims | :05:09. | :05:13. | |
that the Syrian rebels were responsible for the attack. Either | :05:14. | :05:16. | |
because they decided to escalate the situation by attacking the convoy | :05:17. | :05:20. | |
the paper says, or because they they received orders from America to do | :05:21. | :05:25. | |
so. Now, contrast that, the very pro-Kremlin papers with another | :05:26. | :05:29. | |
paper. It is traditionally quite critical of the Kremlin. On its | :05:30. | :05:34. | |
front page today it said, "Assad bombed the ceasefire in Syria." | :05:35. | :05:39. | |
Saying that the Syrian Government forces were responsible for | :05:40. | :05:42. | |
targeting the convoy and inside the paper says this was a barbaric | :05:43. | :05:46. | |
attack, the explanation that comes to mind the article says is that | :05:47. | :05:51. | |
this was a revenge attack for the bombing of Syrian forces by that | :05:52. | :05:56. | |
US-led coalition on Saturday and it concludes by saying that the | :05:57. | :06:00. | |
consequence of all of this is that diplomacy is practically powerless | :06:01. | :06:04. | |
now in Syria. Thank you very much, Steve. | :06:05. | :06:06. | |
Annita is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary | :06:07. | :06:08. | |
This programme has learned that the number of people | :06:09. | :06:14. | |
with mental health problems and learning difficulties who have | :06:15. | :06:17. | |
been physically restrained has increased significantly in the last | :06:18. | :06:19. | |
two years despite a drive by the government to | :06:20. | :06:21. | |
There has also been little change in the use of "face-down" restraint, | :06:22. | :06:25. | |
The information came to light in a freedom of information request | :06:26. | :06:29. | |
by the former health minister Norman Lamb who introduced | :06:30. | :06:31. | |
the government guidance in the first place. | :06:32. | :06:38. | |
I find it ex-rode airline depressing and I started to sort of think about | :06:39. | :06:45. | |
explanations and I think part of the explanation is that most mental | :06:46. | :06:50. | |
health units around the country are operating on 100% capacity if not | :06:51. | :06:55. | |
even more so they're operating under enormous strain often with staff | :06:56. | :06:59. | |
shortages with the use of agency staff so this becomes containment, | :07:00. | :07:02. | |
control, rather than therapeutic recovery. | :07:03. | :07:04. | |
And we'll have more on that exclusive story in a few | :07:05. | :07:07. | |
minutes' time, straight after the sport summary. | :07:08. | :07:09. | |
A man has been charged with planting bombs in New York and New Jersey. | :07:10. | :07:13. | |
Ahmad Khan Rahami had already been accused of attempted murder, | :07:14. | :07:15. | |
after two officers were shot during his arrest. | :07:16. | :07:17. | |
Court documents suggest he had been planning the attacks for months. | :07:18. | :07:20. | |
It's also alleged his diary expressed a wish to die a martyr. | :07:21. | :07:26. | |
There have been violent protests in the US town of Charlotte | :07:27. | :07:29. | |
in North Carolina after police shot dead a black man who they claimed | :07:30. | :07:33. | |
The police said 12 officers were injured | :07:34. | :07:37. | |
On Monday, police in the city of Tulsa in Oklahoma said that | :07:38. | :07:44. | |
a black man they had shot dead on Friday was unarmed. | :07:45. | :07:47. | |
Voting closes at noon today in the Labour leadership election. | :07:48. | :07:49. | |
The result of the contest, between Jeremy Corbyn | :07:50. | :07:51. | |
and his challenger Owen Smith, will be announced on Saturday. | :07:52. | :07:54. | |
Yesterday Labour's National Executive Committee failed to agree | :07:55. | :07:56. | |
a deal over how the shadow cabinet should be chosen, despite | :07:57. | :07:58. | |
Police who deal with domestic abuse incidents are being trained to spot | :07:59. | :08:08. | |
the signs of coercive or controlling behaviour which became | :08:09. | :08:11. | |
A new pilot scheme in three forces in England and Wales has been | :08:12. | :08:16. | |
launched after research, conducted for the College | :08:17. | :08:20. | |
of Policing, suggested that officers were focusing on domestic cases | :08:21. | :08:23. | |
involving violence and overlooking other risk factors. | :08:24. | :08:24. | |
A campaign to tackle the threat of superbugs | :08:25. | :08:33. | |
will receive the backing of the United Nations today. | :08:34. | :08:40. | |
Experts say treatment resistant infections pose one of the biggest | :08:41. | :08:42. | |
Our medical correspondent Fergus Walsh reports. | :08:43. | :08:45. | |
At least 700,000 people a year die from drug-resistant bacterial, | :08:46. | :08:50. | |
viral or parasitic infections such as TB, HIV or malaria. | :08:51. | :08:55. | |
Left unchecked, it's thought that could rise to 10 million | :08:56. | :08:59. | |
The UK has been at the forefront of a campaign to get global action | :09:00. | :09:05. | |
on superbugs and the UN declaration is a symbolic step. | :09:06. | :09:08. | |
It acknowledges that superbugs pose a wide-ranging health threat, | :09:09. | :09:12. | |
to women giving birth, to newborns, those undergoing surgery, | :09:13. | :09:15. | |
There are no specific targets for governments, | :09:16. | :09:24. | |
the pharmaceutical or agricultural sectors, and the key | :09:25. | :09:28. | |
will be to convert good intentions into action. | :09:29. | :09:30. | |
In particular, international controls curbing the overuse | :09:31. | :09:33. | |
of antibiotics in humans and farm animals will be crucial. | :09:34. | :09:35. | |
The signatories have two years to report back with an action plan. | :09:36. | :09:49. | |
Bulldogs, pugs, and shih tzus are becoming increasingly popular | :09:50. | :09:53. | |
as pets, but now vets are warning that the demand for | :09:54. | :09:56. | |
flat-faced breeds of dogs is harming their welfare. | :09:57. | :09:59. | |
Many dogs suffer with breathing problems and some owners | :10:00. | :10:01. | |
are choosing to abandon them rather than pay vets bills. | :10:02. | :10:06. | |
Imagine every moment was a struggle to get enough air. | :10:07. | :10:16. | |
Like many bulldogs, pugs and shih tzus, Winston has obstructed airways | :10:17. | :10:19. | |
caused, quite simply, by the short, flat shape of his head. | :10:20. | :10:24. | |
He was given up by his owners and taken in by Battersea Dogs Home. | :10:25. | :10:37. | |
The predominant thing with this breed, which we see problems with, | :10:38. | :10:43. | |
is brachiophalic obstructed airway syndrome, which is a way of saying | :10:44. | :10:46. | |
that because they have a really short nose that we have bred | :10:47. | :10:48. | |
into them, as a result they have breathing difficulties, | :10:49. | :10:51. | |
The procedure Winston needs is complex, costly and commonplace, | :10:52. | :10:58. | |
as sales of so-called brachycephalic dogs continue to rise sharply | :10:59. | :11:00. | |
His nostrils, you can see they're completely closed, | :11:01. | :11:11. | |
and the idea is to cut some away and open them up so they can | :11:12. | :11:14. | |
In some respects, the big problem for dogs like Winston | :11:15. | :11:18. | |
Having squashed faces makes them adorable | :11:19. | :11:23. | |
But when bred in the extreme, these features can cause | :11:24. | :11:28. | |
It's quite important to recognise that owners don't understand that | :11:29. | :11:36. | |
if you have these dogs, you will be aware of them, | :11:37. | :11:38. | |
people find them quite cute but it is a sign, | :11:39. | :11:45. | |
Six dog rescue companies told the BBC the number of short muzzle | :11:46. | :11:54. | |
dogs they received was rising, while most said they were carrying | :11:55. | :11:57. | |
out more procedures to correct breathing issues. | :11:58. | :12:02. | |
The appeal of these breeds is plain to see, but the features they have | :12:03. | :12:05. | |
They're the result of intense selection. | :12:06. | :12:13. | |
And it is the company behind Crufts, the Kennel Club, that sets out | :12:14. | :12:16. | |
the breed standards for how every type of dog should look. | :12:17. | :12:20. | |
Back through history there are some dire things that went on, | :12:21. | :12:23. | |
most significantly all of the breed standards were changed in 2009 | :12:24. | :12:26. | |
to make sure that there weren't characteristics that mitigated | :12:27. | :12:28. | |
It's exaggeration that we have to move away from. | :12:29. | :12:37. | |
Back at Battersea, Winston came through the treatment well | :12:38. | :12:39. | |
and was soon on his feet feeling frisky, as this meeting | :12:40. | :12:43. | |
His troubled breed is one bulldog better off. | :12:44. | :12:52. | |
The Hollywood film-maker Curtis Hanson, who won an Oscar | :12:53. | :12:55. | |
for LA Confidential, has died at the age of 71. | :12:56. | :12:58. | |
The director had retired from the limelight in recent | :12:59. | :13:01. | |
years, reportedly due to Alzheimer's disease. | :13:02. | :13:05. | |
His other films included 8 Mile and In Her Shoes. | :13:06. | :13:10. | |
Employers are being warned that they could miss out on hiring | :13:11. | :13:13. | |
the best candidate if they aren't more open-minded about tattoos. | :13:14. | :13:18. | |
The conciliation service Acas says negative attitudes about visible | :13:19. | :13:20. | |
It says one in three young people now has a tattoo. | :13:21. | :13:26. | |
Employers can refuse to hire people with tattoos as it is not covered | :13:27. | :13:29. | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC News. | :13:30. | :13:32. | |
In a moment one woman tells us about her experience | :13:33. | :13:40. | |
of being physically restrained while being treated for mental | :13:41. | :13:43. | |
Do get in touch with us throughout the morning. | :13:44. | :13:52. | |
Use the hashtag Victoria Live and If you text, you will be charged | :13:53. | :13:55. | |
Time for the sport, let's talk to Hugh. | :13:56. | :13:58. | |
Chris Ashton has been banned from rugby union for biting. | :13:59. | :14:04. | |
Well it's going to be another disappointing period | :14:05. | :14:06. | |
on the sidelines for Saracens rugby union star Chris Ashton. | :14:07. | :14:08. | |
He's been banned as you say for biting Northampton's Alex Waller | :14:09. | :14:11. | |
in a ruck in their Premiership win last weekend. | :14:12. | :14:13. | |
It means he sees his chances of playing in England's Autumn | :14:14. | :14:16. | |
internationals go out of the window and at the age of 29, | :14:17. | :14:20. | |
if his Six Nations chances for next year go too. | :14:21. | :14:25. | |
He may never earn a 40th cap for Eddie Jones side. | :14:26. | :14:28. | |
Interestingly the Premiership's disciplinary panel had a minimum | :14:29. | :14:32. | |
suspension of 12 weeks for the offence with the extra | :14:33. | :14:34. | |
week for Ashton given as it was "aggravated | :14:35. | :14:39. | |
And that was missing the Six Nations for another offence? | :14:40. | :14:47. | |
Well, for those of use who have seen Chris Ashton play rugby he isn't | :14:48. | :14:51. | |
overly aggressive in normal play but over his career he's been | :14:52. | :14:53. | |
at the centre of a number of violent flash points, I remember | :14:54. | :14:56. | |
he was cited once for pulling a player off the field by his hair - | :14:57. | :15:00. | |
and he missed 10 weeks of last season for an eye gouging charge - | :15:01. | :15:07. | |
that meant he lost his place in the Six Nations winning squad | :15:08. | :15:10. | |
earlier this year and wasn't recalled for the victorious tour | :15:11. | :15:16. | |
He's always said being back in an England shirt was his complete | :15:17. | :15:21. | |
focus but he really hasn't been helping himself of late. | :15:22. | :15:26. | |
What's England's unbeaten record now? | :15:27. | :15:33. | |
Rather incredibly, England haven't lost a competitive qualifier | :15:34. | :15:35. | |
since November 2002 - they only needed a point | :15:36. | :15:37. | |
against Belgium last night to guaranteed top spot | :15:38. | :15:39. | |
in their group, and it wasn't really a classic until some good work | :15:40. | :15:42. | |
from Karen Carney led to Nikita Parris's opener | :15:43. | :15:44. | |
and it was Carney who became goalscorer for the second. | :15:45. | :15:52. | |
Victory means England and now unbeaten in their last seven matches | :15:53. | :16:01. | |
Scotland have also qualified for Euro 2017 - | :16:02. | :16:04. | |
they rounded off their qualifying campaign with an impressive 2-1 | :16:05. | :16:07. | |
Northern Ireland unfortunately didn't make it. | :16:08. | :16:18. | |
That's all the sport for now but we will be back soon | :16:19. | :16:21. | |
and after 10 we'll be speaking to Dame Sarah Storey | :16:22. | :16:24. | |
and Ellie Simmonds about their great achievements at the Rio Paralympics. | :16:25. | :16:35. | |
Two years ago, the Government issued new guidance to try and tackle | :16:36. | :16:38. | |
a culture of restraining people with mental health problems | :16:39. | :16:40. | |
Yet this programme has learned that the number of restraints has | :16:41. | :16:45. | |
That's according to a freedom of information request by the former | :16:46. | :16:54. | |
health minister who introduced the government guidelines | :16:55. | :16:56. | |
It also shows little change in the use of face down | :16:57. | :17:02. | |
restraint, which can restrict a person's breathing. | :17:03. | :17:04. | |
NHS England insists progress is being made. | :17:05. | :17:05. | |
Here's our social affairs correspondent Alison Holt. | :17:06. | :17:08. | |
Arms gripped, forced down, pinned to the ground. | :17:09. | :17:14. | |
This is what facedown restraint looks like in a demonstration. | :17:15. | :17:17. | |
There was someone pinning my back and someone hold my head and other | :17:18. | :17:26. | |
That's not her real name, as she's asked us to disguise her | :17:27. | :17:36. | |
In the past she's also been sexually assaulted. | :17:37. | :17:41. | |
The last time she was restrained facedown on a mental health ward | :17:42. | :17:46. | |
It involved about half a dozen staff. | :17:47. | :17:49. | |
She was suicidal and a male nurse was assigned to | :17:50. | :17:51. | |
I got very, very distressed that there was this male nurse | :17:52. | :17:59. | |
watching me use the bathroom, use the toilet, to shower. | :18:00. | :18:13. | |
And I asked for a female nurse, I asked for him to go away. | :18:14. | :18:18. | |
I tried to get past him - he physically stopped | :18:19. | :18:20. | |
And then what happens is, a restraint team arrives. | :18:21. | :18:28. | |
These were large male nurses and the weight on my back | :18:29. | :18:31. | |
It feels like you're being assaulted. | :18:32. | :18:33. | |
Five years ago, an investigation by the BBC's Panorama programme | :18:34. | :18:36. | |
showed people with learning disabilities being goaded and then | :18:37. | :18:40. | |
brutally restrained at the now closed Winterbourne View private | :18:41. | :18:42. | |
As a result, in April 2014, the Government issued new guidance | :18:43. | :18:46. | |
aimed at reducing physical restraint. | :18:47. | :18:52. | |
It says staff mustn't physically restrain people in a way | :18:53. | :18:54. | |
which could have an impact on their breathing, such | :18:55. | :18:57. | |
But Jane was restrained after that was introduced, | :18:58. | :19:02. | |
and a Freedom of Information request underlines how little has changed. | :19:03. | :19:10. | |
Just before the new guidance was introduced, just over 57,000 | :19:11. | :19:13. | |
But two years on, there were nearly 67,000. | :19:14. | :19:17. | |
Better reporting may explain some of that significant rise. | :19:18. | :19:26. | |
But nearly 19% of those restraints were facedown. | :19:27. | :19:28. | |
The information was collected by Norman Lamb, | :19:29. | :19:30. | |
the former Health Minister who introduced the guidance. | :19:31. | :19:36. | |
I found it extraordinarily depressing, and I started | :19:37. | :19:38. | |
And I think part of the explanation is that most mental health units | :19:39. | :19:44. | |
around the country are operating on 100% capacity, if not even more. | :19:45. | :19:49. | |
So they're operating under enormous strain, | :19:50. | :19:51. | |
often with staff shortages, with the use of agency staff. | :19:52. | :19:56. | |
So this becomes containment, control, who rather | :19:57. | :19:58. | |
So this becomes containment, control, rather than | :19:59. | :20:01. | |
And so we're letting down some of the vulnerable | :20:02. | :20:08. | |
people in our country in the most dreadful way. | :20:09. | :20:10. | |
The man in the middle being restrained in this | :20:11. | :20:12. | |
demonstration is Professor Tim Kendall. | :20:13. | :20:15. | |
His health trust in Sheffield has managed to end the use of facedown | :20:16. | :20:18. | |
restraint and reduce physical restraint overall. | :20:19. | :20:20. | |
Professor Kendall is also NHS England's new clinical | :20:21. | :20:27. | |
He says they are making progress, but the use of restraint varies | :20:28. | :20:33. | |
I think restraint is an incredibly important index of how well | :20:34. | :20:41. | |
we are humanising and ethicising, professionalising, the way we look | :20:42. | :20:45. | |
after people on inpatient units in particular. | :20:46. | :20:51. | |
So, for those trusts where they're not changing in a positive way, | :20:52. | :21:00. | |
or worse still, where things are still becoming more negative, | :21:01. | :21:03. | |
they really need to take note of this. | :21:04. | :21:05. | |
These are real human rights and ethical issues that they should | :21:06. | :21:07. | |
But for those trusts where they're coming back | :21:08. | :21:11. | |
with zero facedown restraint, for example my own trust, | :21:12. | :21:13. | |
or Nottingham, who clearly have no facedown restriction | :21:14. | :21:16. | |
Others should also take note of Jane, who believes the biggest | :21:17. | :21:25. | |
single impact of being restrained was, she stopped talking | :21:26. | :21:28. | |
to the people she had hoped would help her. | :21:29. | :21:31. | |
You don't tell nursing staff or psychiatrists how | :21:32. | :21:33. | |
you're actually feeling, because your main objective | :21:34. | :21:37. | |
is to get out of there as soon as you can, and you will do whatever | :21:38. | :21:41. | |
So that includes being discharged when you're still suicidal, | :21:42. | :21:48. | |
because you're not going to tell them you're suicidal. | :21:49. | :21:51. | |
because you're not going to tell them you're still suicidal. | :21:52. | :21:55. | |
Because the risk of being restrained in that way is very real. | :21:56. | :21:59. | |
And if they can do it to me, somebody with no history of violence | :22:00. | :22:02. | |
or aggression or resistance at all, who rarely raises my voice | :22:03. | :22:10. | |
in that sort of situation, who's quiet and withdrawn, | :22:11. | :22:12. | |
He was in our film there and campaigned for a change | :22:13. | :22:20. | |
in government guidelines on restraining mental health patients. | :22:21. | :22:22. | |
Paul Farmer is from the mental health charity Mind. | :22:23. | :22:26. | |
Their initial research prompted Norman Lamb to raise it as an issue | :22:27. | :22:29. | |
And Sarah - not her real name - was sectioned and says | :22:30. | :22:33. | |
she was restrained, face down, six times in a mental health hospital. | :22:34. | :22:37. | |
She wants to remain anonymous because of what she sees | :22:38. | :22:40. | |
Sarah, our report gave a pretty good impression of how it must feel to be | :22:41. | :22:55. | |
restrained. It's happened to you six times, so tell us how you felt? I | :22:56. | :22:59. | |
felt like I was being ambushed by kidnappers, I suppose. It was | :23:00. | :23:04. | |
completely out of the blue, it was completely extraordinary, I've never | :23:05. | :23:06. | |
experienced anything like it before or since. One thing I think the VT | :23:07. | :23:12. | |
did not show was that it is six people, six people who turn up, one | :23:13. | :23:16. | |
for each limb, one for the head, and one to monitor over all of it. | :23:17. | :23:20. | |
They're chatting to each other, they're laughing, they're | :23:21. | :23:26. | |
coordinating. They would turn around with their blue latex gloves, they | :23:27. | :23:30. | |
would all move at the same time, I would be manoeuvred facedown onto my | :23:31. | :23:34. | |
bed, one person would be kneeling on each leg, and that would press into | :23:35. | :23:39. | |
the metal at the end of the bed. One person holding each arm down, one | :23:40. | :23:42. | |
person for the head, one person over the top and then they would yank | :23:43. | :23:46. | |
down my trousers on one side and pull down my underwear. There would | :23:47. | :23:52. | |
be an anti-psychotic swab and they would stick a needle in, and then | :23:53. | :23:56. | |
they would do the same on the other side, pull down my trousers, jab me | :23:57. | :24:00. | |
with the needle, and then at a signal, they would all let go as | :24:01. | :24:04. | |
one, and they would be clamouring off the bed, and I would be lying | :24:05. | :24:07. | |
there facedown in dirty sheets with my bed pulled out from the wall. And | :24:08. | :24:11. | |
I would have just been in my bed space minding my own business. So | :24:12. | :24:14. | |
it's horrifying, it's terrifying, and I think anyone who was feeling | :24:15. | :24:19. | |
pretty happy and chirpy and strong would be shocked by that. But for | :24:20. | :24:24. | |
me, I was very vulnerable. I suppose I collapsed mentally and I'd gone in | :24:25. | :24:29. | |
there for help and refuge and asylum, and instead, what I got was | :24:30. | :24:33. | |
absolutely relies in the most toxic way possible. I never knew when they | :24:34. | :24:40. | |
were going to turn up. It would be again and again and again, out of | :24:41. | :24:43. | |
the blue, just to administer medication. There was never anyone | :24:44. | :24:48. | |
who warned me, never anyone spoke to me, never once did someone say, we | :24:49. | :24:52. | |
think is what's wrong with you, these are some medication options, | :24:53. | :24:56. | |
what do you think? Not once was I offered medication in advance. I | :24:57. | :25:00. | |
would look up and there would -- and there they would be. One time I was | :25:01. | :25:05. | |
in a meeting with my independent mental health advocate. She asked me | :25:06. | :25:09. | |
to go and get a letter, I went to my bed space, to look for it, I heard a | :25:10. | :25:13. | |
noise and turned around and there they were, mob handed, and they did | :25:14. | :25:18. | |
that same thing to me again. Your flipped upside down, all dignity and | :25:19. | :25:21. | |
humanity stripped, treated like an animal, forcing you to go to places | :25:22. | :25:25. | |
you had never been before. I'd never shown any aggression or violence or | :25:26. | :25:30. | |
resistance. I'm acquired, middle-aged, middle-class woman! It | :25:31. | :25:35. | |
was just horrifying! Norman, that happened to Sarah in 2011, | :25:36. | :25:39. | |
repeatedly over the course of that year. Because of cases like that, | :25:40. | :25:43. | |
two years ago, you introduced guidelines - have the gene and | :25:44. | :25:49. | |
quickly ignored? Well, in many places, that's what it feels like. | :25:50. | :25:52. | |
It was this man who started it all off. He did a survey which showed | :25:53. | :25:57. | |
the extent of the restraint. I was horrified by what I saw so I brought | :25:58. | :26:01. | |
people into the department, including people who had suffered | :26:02. | :26:04. | |
restraint, and it's harrowing to hear these stories. And this is in | :26:05. | :26:09. | |
the hands of the state. This is people who go into the care of the | :26:10. | :26:13. | |
state and are suffering abuse and assault effectively. And of course, | :26:14. | :26:20. | |
there will be many people in those settings who suffered abuse at some | :26:21. | :26:23. | |
stage in their life, and so for them, being assaulted in this way, | :26:24. | :26:29. | |
that's how it feels like, is a real trauma which can lead to | :26:30. | :26:34. | |
post-traumatic stress and so forth. It is a human rights issue. And | :26:35. | :26:41. | |
here's the thing - we know from progressive practitioners like Tim | :26:42. | :26:45. | |
Kendall, who thankfully, as national clinical director, hopefully can | :26:46. | :26:49. | |
drive change, they've shown it's possible. He's ended facedown | :26:50. | :26:54. | |
restraint, significantly reduced other restraint. So there is no | :26:55. | :26:58. | |
excuse really not to treat this as a top priority. Because if you lose | :26:59. | :27:02. | |
the trust of the people caring for you, you can't have therapeutic | :27:03. | :27:06. | |
recovery. It's impossible. It's just force and containment. Paul, | :27:07. | :27:10. | |
listening to Sarah here with us and Jane in our report, it seems that | :27:11. | :27:17. | |
what happened to them came out of the blue. You would imagine that any | :27:18. | :27:21. | |
restraint is going to be happening, it's in response to somebody who is | :27:22. | :27:25. | |
behaving in a way that the people looking after them feel they cannot | :27:26. | :27:29. | |
handle it - what's your explanation for the sort of cases that we're | :27:30. | :27:34. | |
hearing and why the restraint is used? Well, it's hard to come up | :27:35. | :27:38. | |
with any possible human explanation for why this should take place. As | :27:39. | :27:43. | |
you've already heard from Sarah, when restraint is being used on | :27:44. | :27:46. | |
people who are not threatening or violent towards staff in anyway, | :27:47. | :27:52. | |
then you have to ask the question about, what is the culture in | :27:53. | :27:56. | |
particular ward? And is it common? Well, I think what the really | :27:57. | :28:03. | |
helpful information tells us today, we've just started to look at it and | :28:04. | :28:07. | |
understand it, who is that it's far too common in far too many places. | :28:08. | :28:11. | |
But it's also very erratic. There's clearly some parts of the country | :28:12. | :28:14. | |
where trusts have really taken the new guidelines on board and taken it | :28:15. | :28:18. | |
seriously, and we've seen significant reductions. And other | :28:19. | :28:22. | |
parts of the country where there has been very little change or indeed | :28:23. | :28:26. | |
increasing use of restraint. We need to understand what's going on in | :28:27. | :28:30. | |
those particular trusts, to understand why restraint is in some | :28:31. | :28:34. | |
cases being used more. It might be because it is being reported better. | :28:35. | :28:38. | |
But we need to understand to what extent some of the cultural issues | :28:39. | :28:41. | |
are being addressed. We're talking about people who might be at their | :28:42. | :28:46. | |
most vulnerable. You only really go into a mental health hospital now | :28:47. | :28:49. | |
when you're really ill. So your very vulnerable. It's so important that | :28:50. | :28:54. | |
people are treated humanely and in a dignified way. There's also a huge | :28:55. | :28:59. | |
impact on staff, who often have not been trained adequately. There is no | :29:00. | :29:03. | |
accreditation of training, which is a massive issue. So we do not know | :29:04. | :29:07. | |
the quality of much of the training. And a lot of staff end up injured at | :29:08. | :29:14. | |
work. In places where they have transformed the culture, they find | :29:15. | :29:16. | |
they end up with massive reductions in sickness absence of staff cars | :29:17. | :29:22. | |
they are safer. So everyone's interests, this has to change. You | :29:23. | :29:29. | |
wanted to come back in? I think I was just vigorously agreeing! It | :29:30. | :29:36. | |
creates a toxic work culture. Because the six people who would | :29:37. | :29:40. | |
come in and do the restraint on me, three of them were a rapid response | :29:41. | :29:44. | |
squad who used to look in the corridors, waiting to be called. But | :29:45. | :29:48. | |
the three other staff would be occupational therapists and nurses | :29:49. | :29:51. | |
who were working on the ward in any case. And they were just talking to | :29:52. | :29:55. | |
each other. So it was very much them and us. There was no possibility of | :29:56. | :30:00. | |
developing a therapeutic relationship. This has been so | :30:01. | :30:04. | |
entrenched in the system, may be something stronger than guidance is | :30:05. | :30:07. | |
needed? I think it needs to become what they call in the Health Service | :30:08. | :30:12. | |
a never event, something that should never happen. But how do you make | :30:13. | :30:16. | |
that happen? The guidance came in two years ago and the numbers have | :30:17. | :30:20. | |
gone up - does it need something stronger? I think what we've seen in | :30:21. | :30:27. | |
terms of the response to the guidance is clearly not enough. So | :30:28. | :30:30. | |
there needs to be a much firmer direction given nationally, that | :30:31. | :30:37. | |
this is something that can't be tolerated. I understand that we're | :30:38. | :30:42. | |
sometimes dealing with some highly context individuals who are going | :30:43. | :30:45. | |
through their own real anxieties, but we have to understand that if | :30:46. | :30:51. | |
you can take action to avoid situations developing, where people | :30:52. | :30:56. | |
become anxious and stressed... And Sarah's case, it was to apply | :30:57. | :31:01. | |
medication, but often it is when someone gets acutely distressed and | :31:02. | :31:05. | |
anxious and then they come in to restrain them. And there are clear | :31:06. | :31:10. | |
strategies which can be used to avoid these strategies happening in | :31:11. | :31:13. | |
the first place. There is an absolute imperative to do the | :31:14. | :31:17. | |
training. But does a message need to go out first of all, Paul, that it | :31:18. | :31:22. | |
just will not be tolerated? It's not just guidance? I think three things | :31:23. | :31:29. | |
need to happen. First of all we should not have to rely on Freedom | :31:30. | :31:34. | |
of Information requests to get this information, it should be routinely | :31:35. | :31:36. | |
and transparently reported by every trust. Secondly I think there needs | :31:37. | :31:42. | |
to be a very strong message that the use of facedown restraint in | :31:43. | :31:44. | |
particular really should not be tolerated. Some people have lost | :31:45. | :31:48. | |
their lives as a result of this type of restraint. And thirdly, I think | :31:49. | :31:55. | |
as Tim said on your peace, this is a litmus test for the way in which we | :31:56. | :31:57. | |
are treating people with mental health problems. | :31:58. | :32:07. | |
This is one of those indicators we need to keep a close eye on. Sair | :32:08. | :32:14. | |
ration you went into hospital for treatment because you were in a | :32:15. | :32:18. | |
desperate place and you needed help. This happened over a year... I was | :32:19. | :32:23. | |
in hospital over the course of a few weeks. But over the course of the | :32:24. | :32:29. | |
year, in that period of 2011 it happened six times, when you ended | :32:30. | :32:32. | |
the treatment, did you feel that you were in a better place than you had | :32:33. | :32:35. | |
been previously? No, I was in a much worse place. I had gone in there | :32:36. | :32:39. | |
poorly and extremely vulnerable and I came out far worse. I came out | :32:40. | :32:44. | |
with a diagnosis of post-traumatic stress disorder which is what | :32:45. | :32:47. | |
soldiers get in the battle feel and that persisted. It had, had I | :32:48. | :32:52. | |
received good care and treatment I would have been back in work within | :32:53. | :32:59. | |
months. As it is, five years later, the post-traumatic stress disorder | :33:00. | :33:05. | |
has terrorised and brutalised my life and I'm further away from the | :33:06. | :33:11. | |
jobs market than ever. The measure that staff used to get their way | :33:12. | :33:15. | |
rather than using persuasion and working with me and building | :33:16. | :33:18. | |
therapeutic relationships, that's had a lasting impact. Into how | :33:19. | :33:23. | |
disastrous is that at the hands of the State? Have you had good | :33:24. | :33:30. | |
treatment since? No, I would describe it as a combination of | :33:31. | :33:34. | |
brutalisation followed by neglect. Have you sought treatment? I have. | :33:35. | :33:37. | |
Are you fearful of what happened to you? I have a letter from Norman | :33:38. | :33:42. | |
Lamb after my MP appealed to him when he was minister in Government, | :33:43. | :33:46. | |
to try and get treatment because I was sort of pushed around from | :33:47. | :33:51. | |
pillar to post. From assessment to assessment. There are so many gaps | :33:52. | :33:57. | |
in the mental health system. I have only just now started treatment for | :33:58. | :34:01. | |
the post-traumatic stress disorder and that's five years later, but in | :34:02. | :34:06. | |
the preceding five years I have been sort of deemed a success case | :34:07. | :34:09. | |
because I have been stable on medication and welfare benefits, but | :34:10. | :34:12. | |
that's just being a half life, there has been no attempt to try and help | :34:13. | :34:16. | |
me get back on my feet. I just have been trying and trying and trying, | :34:17. | :34:21. | |
every which way, you know, to the extent of seeing my counsellor and | :34:22. | :34:25. | |
going to see my MP and I got a letter from Norman Lamb, every way | :34:26. | :34:30. | |
that I could. We know the evidence is there that we can do better. This | :34:31. | :34:36. | |
is the outrageous thing, but people suffering mental ill-health | :34:37. | :34:38. | |
experience discrimination. They don't get the same access to | :34:39. | :34:42. | |
treatment as other people do and it is the way money is allocated across | :34:43. | :34:46. | |
the system. They don't have the same right to get treatment on a timely | :34:47. | :34:51. | |
basis and so often the inpatient facilities are full to over flowing, | :34:52. | :34:56. | |
under enormous pressure, it is a neglected area and there is a moral | :34:57. | :35:00. | |
imperative as well as an enormous economic case for change. And this | :35:01. | :35:03. | |
is something you have been talking about? Constantly. Lots of people | :35:04. | :35:09. | |
getting in touch as they always do when we talk about these issues. | :35:10. | :35:17. | |
Nigel says, "Restraint is sometimes necessary." Jay says, "The problem | :35:18. | :35:25. | |
is no one cares for people who are unwell in the head. They close the | :35:26. | :35:35. | |
outpatients and you can't get a community psychiatric nurse." Keeli | :35:36. | :35:39. | |
on Facebook, "I think people need to realise it is taught to be used as a | :35:40. | :35:44. | |
last resort and actually saves some people's lives for example people | :35:45. | :35:47. | |
who are determined to kill themselves or others. If someone is | :35:48. | :35:51. | |
about to take their own life or cause damage to somebody else, | :35:52. | :35:55. | |
intervention is necessary, but in so many cases, it is not necessary. In | :35:56. | :36:00. | |
so many cases it is used as a first resort and that's the problem. Thank | :36:01. | :36:03. | |
you very much, Sarah and Paul and Norman, thank you for coming. Do let | :36:04. | :36:07. | |
us know your thoughts on that as well. | :36:08. | :36:10. | |
New research shows it's increasingly common. | :36:11. | :36:24. | |
We'll be asking if more needs to be done to tackle it. | :36:25. | :36:27. | |
And as voting closes in the Labour leadership election today, | :36:28. | :36:30. | |
some members say they still received their ballot papers. | :36:31. | :36:32. | |
We'll be speaking to some of them just after 9.30am. | :36:33. | :36:38. | |
Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news. | :36:39. | :36:43. | |
A French medical aid agency in Syria says four of its staff were killed | :36:44. | :36:49. | |
and a nurse critically wounded after a night-time air | :36:50. | :36:52. | |
strike hit a clinic in a rebel-held town near Aleppo. | :36:53. | :36:54. | |
The building was completely levelled, and more people are feared | :36:55. | :36:57. | |
The United States has meanwhile said it believes Russia was responsible | :36:58. | :37:00. | |
for the bombing of an aid convoy on Monday which killed 20 people. | :37:01. | :37:04. | |
Russia has expressed outrage at the accusation. | :37:05. | :37:08. | |
This programme has learned that the number of people | :37:09. | :37:11. | |
with mental health problems and learning difficulties who have | :37:12. | :37:14. | |
been physically restrained has increased significantly in the last | :37:15. | :37:16. | |
two years despite a drive by the government to | :37:17. | :37:18. | |
There has also been little change in the use of "face-down" restraint, | :37:19. | :37:24. | |
We spoke to a former patient with bi-polar who was restrained | :37:25. | :37:28. | |
face down on a mental health ward ten months ago about her experience. | :37:29. | :37:34. | |
There was someone pinning my back and someone holding my head and | :37:35. | :37:42. | |
other people holding my arms and legs and I couldn't move. I couldn't | :37:43. | :37:48. | |
breathe. If they can do it to me, who is somebody with no history of | :37:49. | :37:55. | |
violence or aggression or resistance at all, who rarely raises my voice | :37:56. | :37:59. | |
in that sort of situation, who is quiet and withdrawn, then they can | :38:00. | :38:00. | |
do it with anyone. There have been violent protests | :38:01. | :38:05. | |
in the US town of Charlotte in North Carolina after police shot | :38:06. | :38:07. | |
dead a black man who they claimed The police said 12 officers | :38:08. | :38:10. | |
were injured in the disturbances. On Monday, police in the city | :38:11. | :38:14. | |
of Tulsa in Oklahoma said that a black man they had shot dead | :38:15. | :38:17. | |
on Friday was unarmed. That's a summary of | :38:18. | :38:22. | |
the latest BBC News. Let's get the sports | :38:23. | :38:24. | |
headlines now with Hugh. England and Saracens wing | :38:25. | :38:31. | |
Chris Ashton is banned for 13 weeks after being found guilty of biting | :38:32. | :38:34. | |
the Northampton prop Alex Waller in their Premiership | :38:35. | :38:37. | |
match last weekend. He won't play again until the 19th | :38:38. | :38:41. | |
December so misses out on the chance to play | :38:42. | :38:44. | |
in England's Autumn internationals. In football, England's women beat | :38:45. | :38:47. | |
Belgium 2-0 to finish top of their group in qualifying | :38:48. | :38:49. | |
for Euro 2017 - that extends their unbeaten | :38:50. | :38:52. | |
run to seven matches. Scotland had also already qualified | :38:53. | :38:57. | |
and they ended their campaign with an impressive 2-1 victory away | :38:58. | :38:59. | |
to group winners Iceland, Chelsea are into the fourth | :39:00. | :39:02. | |
round of the EFL Cup, but they needed extra time | :39:03. | :39:07. | |
to beat Leicester City. Cesc Fabregas scored his first two | :39:08. | :39:11. | |
of the season to send them through. All last night's results | :39:12. | :39:14. | |
are on the BBC sport website. And Rangers beat Queen of the South | :39:15. | :39:19. | |
5-0 to reach the semi-finals That's all the sport for now. We | :39:20. | :39:36. | |
will be talking about the Rio Paralympics after 10am. | :39:37. | :39:40. | |
After a race that has lasted nearly two months, | :39:41. | :39:42. | |
voting closes in the Labour leadership contest at midday today. | :39:43. | :39:45. | |
The winner will be announced at a special conference | :39:46. | :39:47. | |
Let's go to Westminster, where our political guru | :39:48. | :39:50. | |
Norman Smith can give us all the latest on the race. | :39:51. | :39:52. | |
Not much longer to go now, Norman. Joanna we are almost there. So if | :39:53. | :40:00. | |
you've got a vote, you've got until 12 o'clock to cast it here. Here is | :40:01. | :40:04. | |
the ballot paper. Just two names on it Jeremy Corbyn and Owen Smith. So | :40:05. | :40:09. | |
easy-peasy to vote and thele result is also easy-peasy, it is simply who | :40:10. | :40:15. | |
gets the most votes. Vic and I will be at Liverpool on Saturday. The | :40:16. | :40:20. | |
result around 11.45am to decide who is the leader of the Labour Party. | :40:21. | :40:25. | |
But when you look back, it has been a pretty bruising contest. Remember | :40:26. | :40:29. | |
at the start, there were moves to stop Jeremy Corbyn from even | :40:30. | :40:33. | |
standing in the race. I mean there was an attempt to block him legally | :40:34. | :40:38. | |
and then there were all the sorts of arguments about who could take part | :40:39. | :40:42. | |
in the votement let me take you through who can cast a votement | :40:43. | :40:47. | |
well, there are around 348,000 party members who will get a say. And as | :40:48. | :40:54. | |
well as them, we've got 129,000 so-called registered supporters. | :40:55. | :40:58. | |
Now, they are the sort of people who are not full party members, but they | :40:59. | :41:02. | |
want to take part in the contest so they have to pay a fee of 25 quid. | :41:03. | :41:06. | |
Last time they only had to pay three quid and they backed Jeremy Corbyn. | :41:07. | :41:12. | |
And lastly, we've got 168,000 affiliated supporters. Now they are | :41:13. | :41:18. | |
basically trade unionists who have signed up to take part in the | :41:19. | :41:22. | |
contest. That's 640,000 people, that's more than the entire | :41:23. | :41:28. | |
population of Luxembourg! But some people have been told they can't | :41:29. | :41:33. | |
vote so there has been a cull of a number of supporters and members who | :41:34. | :41:36. | |
are thought to have backed other parties in the past and there are | :41:37. | :41:40. | |
also a number of people who haven't still received ballot papers and I | :41:41. | :41:44. | |
know Joanna, you will be talking to some of those shortly. But the | :41:45. | :41:48. | |
striking thing, it seems to me, about this contest, it is not really | :41:49. | :41:54. | |
about the policies, the differences politically between Jeremy Corbyn | :41:55. | :41:57. | |
and Owen Smith. It is about the personalities in particular, the | :41:58. | :41:59. | |
personality of Jeremy Corbyn, whether you're for him or against | :42:00. | :42:04. | |
him. Because really politically, there is not much between Owen Smith | :42:05. | :42:08. | |
and Jeremy Corbyn. They both want to end austerity. They both want to | :42:09. | :42:13. | |
spend hundreds of billions on trying to revitalise the economy and | :42:14. | :42:16. | |
listening to a statement that Owen Smith put out last night, he sounded | :42:17. | :42:20. | |
almost as if he was conceding defeat. He says, "I'm proud I | :42:21. | :42:25. | |
brought a positive programme for a future Labour Government. I will | :42:26. | :42:28. | |
continue to make the arguments and do all I can to see us back if | :42:29. | :42:34. | |
Government. Jeremy Corbyn meanwhile still enjoying massive rallies. At | :42:35. | :42:38. | |
one of his last rallies, he perhaps announced his most popular policy | :42:39. | :42:43. | |
yet, to nationalise the Great British Bake Off! | :42:44. | :42:48. | |
I also want to say thank you to everyone that's here today and all | :42:49. | :42:52. | |
the great banners that there are here today and I'm really taken by | :42:53. | :43:01. | |
the one nationalise Bake Off! LAUGHTER | :43:02. | :43:05. | |
I think the fate of Bake Off is what happens when the BBC was allowed to | :43:06. | :43:11. | |
contract out its programme making somewhere else and the public lost | :43:12. | :43:15. | |
ownership of Bake Off. Shall we get it back? Yes! There, we have it, | :43:16. | :43:24. | |
bring Mel and Sue back into public ownership. That's the policy to win | :43:25. | :43:29. | |
people around. It sounds good! As Norman was saying, with over two | :43:30. | :43:33. | |
hours or so to go until the polls close, some of the people who had | :43:34. | :43:36. | |
expect to be able to vote in the poll have not had their ballot | :43:37. | :43:38. | |
papers. Joining is on the line | :43:39. | :43:43. | |
are Cristiano Sabiu from Scotland who is currently studying in Korea | :43:44. | :43:45. | |
and Connor French and Scott Berry You didn't get ballot papers, why | :43:46. | :43:56. | |
not? What happened? I have no idea. I have been a member, a full member | :43:57. | :44:03. | |
of the party since February. I had to sign as a registered supporter | :44:04. | :44:07. | |
because I became a member after January which was unfortunate. I | :44:08. | :44:10. | |
thought well it is worth the money to have my say in the election and I | :44:11. | :44:15. | |
still haven't received a ballot paper. What's your situation been? | :44:16. | :44:22. | |
Well, I tried to join at the end of July, there was a stringent two days | :44:23. | :44:28. | |
where new members could join up and pay ?25 and have a vote in the | :44:29. | :44:34. | |
leadership election. I thought everything was fine. There was one | :44:35. | :44:41. | |
issue with locating or finding me on the electoral register which I have | :44:42. | :44:45. | |
an e-mail confirming that was true, that was found and then no news, | :44:46. | :44:51. | |
nothing. No ballot until I called a few days ago and I was informed that | :44:52. | :44:57. | |
they could now not find me or locate me in the electoral register and | :44:58. | :45:02. | |
there was really nothing I could do about it. So that was very | :45:03. | :45:06. | |
frustrating. So you paid ?25 to be able to vote and you can't vote. How | :45:07. | :45:13. | |
do you feel about that? Like I said, it is very frustrating. It seems | :45:14. | :45:17. | |
almost, there are only so many members of the party and you are | :45:18. | :45:24. | |
affiliated members. Surely they can sort through and help us. I mean, | :45:25. | :45:28. | |
we're part of the same party. We want almost exactly the same goals. | :45:29. | :45:32. | |
You would think they would be working tirelessly to make sure | :45:33. | :45:36. | |
everyone is involved in the process and that clearly didn't happen in | :45:37. | :45:39. | |
this case. If you could have been able to vote, who would you have | :45:40. | :45:44. | |
voted for? I was very much supporting Jeremy Corbyn and Diane | :45:45. | :45:48. | |
Abbott's position. Conor, who would you have voted for? The same for me, | :45:49. | :45:52. | |
Jeremy Corbyn, definitely. Do you want your money back? Yes. Yes. I | :45:53. | :45:56. | |
will be doing everything I can to get it back. I don't know whether I | :45:57. | :46:00. | |
will be able to or not, but I'll do the best that I can to get it back. | :46:01. | :46:02. | |
Thank you both very much. Thank you. The Labour Party told us that it has | :46:03. | :46:15. | |
got a robust mechanism in place, to ensure that everybody gets a | :46:16. | :46:16. | |
reissue. Care services in England could be at | :46:17. | :46:30. | |
risk with more than 80,000 workers potentially losing their rights to | :46:31. | :46:31. | |
work here following Brexit. Seven out of ten football fans say | :46:32. | :46:37. | |
they've heard homophobic abuse That's according to new research by | :46:38. | :46:40. | |
the LGBT rights charity Stonewall. It found that fans regularly witness | :46:41. | :46:50. | |
abuse at live events in other sports, although homophobic | :46:51. | :46:52. | |
behaviour was most common The following short film | :46:53. | :46:54. | |
was recorded at one such match - we've obscured the | :46:55. | :46:58. | |
worst of the abuse. Thank you to all of our panel for | :46:59. | :47:49. | |
coming in this morning. Robbie de Santos, why do you think it is that | :47:50. | :47:52. | |
you are likely to hear homophobic abuse at a football match? I think | :47:53. | :47:56. | |
it is across sport. Football is the biggest sport in the country, so the | :47:57. | :48:00. | |
chances are you are likely to hear it there because there are so many | :48:01. | :48:03. | |
people. But really this is a problem across sport. When you go to games, | :48:04. | :48:13. | |
you're likely to hear homophobic, by phobic and transfer the abuse at any | :48:14. | :48:16. | |
point in sport. It is a real problem. Why do you think it is? I | :48:17. | :48:20. | |
think it is a small minority of sports fan is but it is a vocal | :48:21. | :48:25. | |
minority. And what we is to make sure that the silent majority of | :48:26. | :48:31. | |
sports fans, who do not have time for homophobic abuse, feel empowered | :48:32. | :48:35. | |
to do something about it. They feel they can challenge it, whether in | :48:36. | :48:39. | |
the stadium or online channel that there will be some kind of | :48:40. | :48:42. | |
consequence for people who act in this vile way in sport. Sport should | :48:43. | :48:47. | |
be everyone's game, and that's what stone wall is campaigning for. Jamie | :48:48. | :48:52. | |
Feldman, you are a gay football player, have you witnessed this? It | :48:53. | :48:56. | |
is interesting because I would say that it had decreased over the | :48:57. | :48:59. | |
years, until actually this weekend. I was playing in a game when one of | :49:00. | :49:04. | |
our players was lying on the floor, and were told to get up Riise the | :49:05. | :49:12. | |
ground and stop being a poof. The opposition player said it, and on | :49:13. | :49:16. | |
learning that we were a gay team his excuse was, I did not know that's | :49:17. | :49:20. | |
not acceptable. Did anyone say anything? Oh, absolutely. We are a | :49:21. | :49:28. | |
team made up of gay people, straight people, people that we don't know | :49:29. | :49:32. | |
because we don't ask. And so we all protected the player who was on the | :49:33. | :49:36. | |
floor who had been called poof. That's what was most shocking and | :49:37. | :49:39. | |
surprising to me was, another player who then got involved, to say he | :49:40. | :49:44. | |
didn't mean it like that, who was a black player, who I went up to and | :49:45. | :49:48. | |
said, if I called you a derogatory racist comment, would it be the | :49:49. | :49:54. | |
same? His response was, no, it's completely different, that's racism. | :49:55. | :50:00. | |
I also work as a lawyer so I have some background into school and | :50:01. | :50:03. | |
nation. The Equality Act does not place any ranking on characteristics | :50:04. | :50:09. | |
- race, religion, sexual orientation, they are all the same, | :50:10. | :50:12. | |
they should be protected the same way. And I feel that in sports come | :50:13. | :50:17. | |
homophobia has a bit to catch up with racism, we're not quite there | :50:18. | :50:23. | |
yet. Zitta Lomax, you're a member of the Gay Gooners, what have your | :50:24. | :50:26. | |
experiences been in the stadium? The fact that Arsenal are kind of | :50:27. | :50:32. | |
supporting LGBT fans, has that made a difference? Yes, it's made a huge | :50:33. | :50:36. | |
difference. Arsenal were the first team to have a fans' group, and it | :50:37. | :50:44. | |
has made a huge impact. Especially little things like, it was a huge | :50:45. | :50:48. | |
thing, actually, there is a banner ad says Gay Gooners at the stadium | :50:49. | :50:55. | |
now. So when you walk in, as an LGBT fan, you feel much safer and more | :50:56. | :51:00. | |
confident. Arsenal worked very hard with Kick It Out and other | :51:01. | :51:03. | |
organisations to make sure that they are following the Equality Act, as | :51:04. | :51:06. | |
has been said. To make sure that everybody feels safe. Do you still | :51:07. | :51:11. | |
hear abuse? Yes, you still hear language which is used | :51:12. | :51:14. | |
inappropriately. That's the big thing. There was something in the | :51:15. | :51:17. | |
report around young people and their use of language. The charity I work | :51:18. | :51:21. | |
for, Educate And Celebrate, that's our big thing, going into schools | :51:22. | :51:25. | |
and talking to young people about how we use language and | :51:26. | :51:28. | |
understanding language. People still need to have awareness about LGBT | :51:29. | :51:32. | |
and being able to use language appropriately. Lisa Squires, at | :51:33. | :51:38. | |
Charlton Athletic, is there an issue around homophobic abuse? I | :51:39. | :51:41. | |
personally have not witnessed anything at Charlton Athletic. | :51:42. | :51:45. | |
Obviously, we work really hard to make sure that it's important for us | :51:46. | :51:50. | |
that everybody comes in and enjoys the game. So, we want... It's a | :51:51. | :51:55. | |
family environment, we are known as a family football club. We want | :51:56. | :52:00. | |
everybody to feel safe when they come to Charlton Athletic. We have | :52:01. | :52:06. | |
started a scheme and we have been very involved with Gay Gooners, | :52:07. | :52:11. | |
they've helped us to establish that supporters group at Charlton. It's | :52:12. | :52:15. | |
really positive. And we just want to educate people. Replayed that clip | :52:16. | :52:20. | |
of the chanting, the songs that get some other words get changed to | :52:21. | :52:26. | |
offensive language - if that happened at Charlton, what would | :52:27. | :52:29. | |
happen to people caught up in that? It would definitely be investigated. | :52:30. | :52:34. | |
They would get kicked out straightaway what it does it take | :52:35. | :52:37. | |
people around them to point them out? Yes, this has been a big push, | :52:38. | :52:44. | |
particularly Kick It Out now have an app which is very supportive. What's | :52:45. | :52:47. | |
difficult for people, if you're at a match and you see someone being | :52:48. | :52:50. | |
homophobic in front of you, sometimes it can be a bit worrying. | :52:51. | :52:54. | |
You have your steward that you can go to. If you have the confidence, | :52:55. | :52:58. | |
you can do that. Arsenal has been very good at explaining to fans that | :52:59. | :53:02. | |
they can go to the steward. But the great thing about the Kick It Out | :53:03. | :53:06. | |
app is, you can report any kind of just grab the nation and you can | :53:07. | :53:09. | |
send it there and then. And it will get picked up data. Fans have to | :53:10. | :53:14. | |
identify what row that person is sitting in and what number seat, if | :53:15. | :53:19. | |
at all possible. It's much easier for fans to do now. Sometimes people | :53:20. | :53:23. | |
are not confident enough to challenge homophobia if they are | :53:24. | :53:29. | |
seeing it actually happening. I probably would if I was with a | :53:30. | :53:32. | |
friend. Sometimes if you're on your own, people in the heat of the | :53:33. | :53:36. | |
moment. You might not want to go up to them. But they would get taken | :53:37. | :53:39. | |
out of the game straightaway if it could be seen that they were being | :53:40. | :53:47. | |
homophobic or racist or using disk Grenada Will Antwi Joe Arundel it's | :53:48. | :53:51. | |
still the case that there is no openly gay professional footballer | :53:52. | :53:53. | |
in England or Scotland - would it make a difference if anybody came | :53:54. | :54:02. | |
out? We do not know whether there are any, which is a huge issue. But | :54:03. | :54:06. | |
in women's football, a lot of high-profile lesbian women and | :54:07. | :54:13. | |
bisexual, coming out, sending a message that people like us exist. | :54:14. | :54:16. | |
We know that right through sport, there are lesbian and gay and trans | :54:17. | :54:22. | |
people who are great. Role models are so important. But in the absence | :54:23. | :54:26. | |
of that, there's still a huge amount that players can do in the welcoming | :54:27. | :54:32. | |
and accepting of fans. We have got a video which was put together by | :54:33. | :54:34. | |
Arsenal players doing exactly that... I can't change, I look like | :54:35. | :54:46. | |
Lewis Hamilton. I can't change that my hair is perfect. I can't change | :54:47. | :54:52. | |
my head. I can't change that I look like a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. | :54:53. | :54:56. | |
I can't change that I'm gorgeous. But together, we can change the | :54:57. | :55:01. | |
game. Players are lacing up to kick homophobia out of football. Get | :55:02. | :55:10. | |
involved and show your support. That's great, isn't it? Does that | :55:11. | :55:13. | |
sort of thing make a difference? I think it does. It raises awareness. | :55:14. | :55:18. | |
We are in quite a good position in where our team plays, we're based in | :55:19. | :55:22. | |
the Middlesex County, at the grassroots level. One thing that we | :55:23. | :55:27. | |
really wanted to do for the Rainbow Laces campaign this year is, | :55:28. | :55:30. | |
attacked the grassroots level. The grassroots level, with the kids and | :55:31. | :55:35. | |
the players playing football on a Saturday morning and then going to | :55:36. | :55:39. | |
watch their stars on a Saturday afternoon. If we can do something to | :55:40. | :55:43. | |
help raise awareness that there is an issue to do with homophobic, and | :55:44. | :55:49. | |
other kinds of abusing football, and a small things such as wearing a | :55:50. | :55:54. | |
lace, something rainbow laced, which promotes talk about what the issue | :55:55. | :55:58. | |
is, I think it will help. I think it will make it a more welcoming place. | :55:59. | :56:05. | |
So that whoever feels ready to be the first male footballer to come | :56:06. | :56:10. | |
out, professionally, if there is one, will feel comfortable to do so. | :56:11. | :56:14. | |
You said before about when somebody was challenge to for a comment and | :56:15. | :56:21. | |
you said double it is abusive, and you said, how would you feel if it | :56:22. | :56:26. | |
was a racist issue and they saw it differently - do you think people | :56:27. | :56:28. | |
don't think through what they are saying and would try to brush it off | :56:29. | :56:33. | |
as banter? I think it is about education. It is about talking to | :56:34. | :56:38. | |
people. A lot of people do not know about the Equality Act and that you | :56:39. | :56:42. | |
should treat everyone equally and fairly, regardless of | :56:43. | :56:46. | |
characteristics. That's one thing. Without organisation, that's what | :56:47. | :56:49. | |
we're trying to get through to young people. There was part in the report | :56:50. | :56:54. | |
about the banter. But we find that if you work with young people, as | :56:55. | :56:57. | |
soon as they understand the issues, and what the language is, they will | :56:58. | :57:01. | |
change. But it's about having everyone actually challenging the | :57:02. | :57:07. | |
disk post. Education needs to go on from the bottom to the top. Coaches | :57:08. | :57:12. | |
need to know about how they're talking to people. And they need to | :57:13. | :57:17. | |
feel confident. A lot of coaches will not feel confident if one of | :57:18. | :57:20. | |
their young people comes out to them, about dealing with it. So that | :57:21. | :57:24. | |
adds to the homophobia. A lot of it is quite quiet. There is lots of it | :57:25. | :57:29. | |
out there, as you heard at the weekend, but very quiet homophobia, | :57:30. | :57:37. | |
if that makes sense shush overall, we have two clubs here which seem to | :57:38. | :57:41. | |
be dealing with it very well - do you think most clubs are doing that? | :57:42. | :57:45. | |
I think it is a mixed picture. There are a lot of clubs in football and | :57:46. | :57:49. | |
in rugby across the country, and it's hard to see what the full | :57:50. | :57:53. | |
picture is. But in the build-up to November, we've got a big campaign | :57:54. | :57:57. | |
weekend working with the Premier League, the Football Association, | :57:58. | :58:00. | |
Premiership rugby channel we're trying to get as many clubs as | :58:01. | :58:03. | |
possible to take either the first step for the second or the third | :58:04. | :58:09. | |
step, like Arsenal and Manchester United and Charlton, to really make | :58:10. | :58:12. | |
a big display of support for lesbian, gay, bi and trans players | :58:13. | :58:23. | |
and fans. We want everybody to be accepted in sport at all levels. We | :58:24. | :58:27. | |
can't do this without the big clubs, the big leagues and the governing | :58:28. | :58:31. | |
bodies. Really today is the start of the big campaign, and we're looking | :58:32. | :58:34. | |
for everyone to play their part. Thank you all very much. Let us know | :58:35. | :58:38. | |
your thoughts as well. Coming up, the end of Brangelina. I | :58:39. | :58:58. | |
feel like it is the end of an era, so I am dedicating my show tonight | :58:59. | :59:04. | |
to Brangelina! Even though I think private lives should be private. I | :59:05. | :59:07. | |
was shocked when I woke up this morning! We can get the latest | :59:08. | :59:17. | |
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of England but a bit of a change on the way out west, with this cloud | :59:24. | :59:28. | |
coming in from the Atlantic. The rain eventually finding its way into | :59:29. | :59:32. | |
western Scotland. Ahead of that, the odd shower drifting up towards | :59:33. | :59:37. | |
north-west England. Otherwise it's a dry day for most with sunny spells | :59:38. | :59:42. | |
as well. Where you've got the light winds, it is going to feel quite | :59:43. | :59:46. | |
warm, more like late summer than autumn. The rain is away during the | :59:47. | :59:57. | |
course of the evening. Getting into Wales and more central and west | :59:58. | :59:59. | |
parts of England. That's the remnants of it left tomorrow across | :00:00. | :00:03. | |
parts of the Midlands and eastern parts of England. Behind it, a lot | :00:04. | :00:10. | |
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Four medical staff working for a charity | :00:22. | :00:24. | |
are killed in an attack on a clinic in northern Syria overnight. | :00:25. | :00:30. | |
We'll have the latest on that and on US claims that Russia | :00:31. | :00:35. | |
is responsible for Monday's airstrike on an aid convoy that | :00:36. | :00:38. | |
killed more than 20 people. | :00:39. | :00:40. | |
Are our care services for elderly and disabled people too dependent | :00:41. | :00:43. | |
One charity says we'll lose 80,000 care workers because of Brexit. | :00:44. | :00:47. | |
We'll hear from care home owners and a migrant care worker | :00:48. | :00:50. | |
Brad Pitt says he's very saddened by Angelina Jolie's decision | :00:51. | :00:55. | |
Last night Adele dedicated her New York concert to Brangelina - | :00:56. | :01:03. | |
We'll be getting all the latest reaction from LA. | :01:04. | :01:21. | |
Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news. | :01:22. | :01:24. | |
A French medical aid agency in Syria says four of its staff were killed | :01:25. | :01:30. | |
and a nurse critically wounded after a night-time air | :01:31. | :01:32. | |
strike hit a clinic in a rebel-held town near Aleppo. | :01:33. | :01:37. | |
The building was completely levelled and more people are feared | :01:38. | :01:40. | |
The United States has meanwhile said it believes Russia was responsible | :01:41. | :01:44. | |
for the bombing of an aid convoy on Monday which killed | :01:45. | :01:46. | |
Russia has expressed outrage at the accusation. | :01:47. | :01:49. | |
This programme has learned that the number of people | :01:50. | :01:51. | |
with mental health problems and learning difficulties who have | :01:52. | :01:55. | |
been physically restrained has increased significantly in the last | :01:56. | :01:59. | |
two years despite a drive by the Government to | :02:00. | :02:01. | |
There has also been little change in the use of "face-down" restraint, | :02:02. | :02:05. | |
We spoke to a former patient with bi-polar who was restrained | :02:06. | :02:09. | |
face down on a mental health ward ten months ago about her experience. | :02:10. | :02:15. | |
You're flipped up side douvenlt all dignity and humanity is stripped and | :02:16. | :02:22. | |
it you're treated like an animal. There have been violent protests | :02:23. | :02:30. | |
in the US town of Charlotte in North Carolina after police shot | :02:31. | :02:37. | |
dead a black man who they claimed The police said 12 officers | :02:38. | :02:40. | |
were injured in the disturbances. On Monday, police in the city | :02:41. | :02:43. | |
of Tulsa in Oklahoma said that a black man they had shot dead | :02:44. | :02:46. | |
on Friday was unarmed. Police who deal with domestic abuse | :02:47. | :02:49. | |
incidents are being trained to spot the signs of coercive or controlling | :02:50. | :02:52. | |
behaviour which became A new pilot scheme in three forces | :02:53. | :02:54. | |
in England and Wales has been launched after research, | :02:55. | :02:59. | |
conducted for the College of Policing, suggested that officers | :03:00. | :03:00. | |
were focusing on domestic cases involving violence and overlooking | :03:01. | :03:03. | |
other risk factors. Voting closes at noon today | :03:04. | :03:04. | |
in the Labour leadership election. The result of the contest, | :03:05. | :03:21. | |
between Jeremy Corbyn and his challenger Owen Smith, | :03:22. | :03:23. | |
will be announced on Saturday. Yesterday, Labour's National | :03:24. | :03:25. | |
Executive Committee failed to agree a deal over how the Shadow Cabinet | :03:26. | :03:30. | |
should be chosen, despite That's a summary of | :03:31. | :03:33. | |
the latest BBC News. Thank you very much. | :03:34. | :03:44. | |
A couple of comments to bring you on the conversation we were just having | :03:45. | :03:48. | |
about ham owe fobbic abuse at football matches in particular. | :03:49. | :03:51. | |
Jonathan tweeted to say, "As a gay man I would be embarrassed at a game | :03:52. | :03:56. | |
especially with my family with homophobic chants." Dom texted, "It | :03:57. | :04:03. | |
is football. Everyone gets abuse. Passions run high and not everyone | :04:04. | :04:11. | |
is PC." We have also had you getting in touch on the restraint issue, the | :04:12. | :04:15. | |
fact that new guidelines were brought in two years ago and the | :04:16. | :04:21. | |
number of times restraint is being used in cases, in mental health | :04:22. | :04:27. | |
units has increased. Adam says, "De-escalation is always the desired | :04:28. | :04:33. | |
outcome, but there are times when intervention is needed to protect | :04:34. | :04:37. | |
life." Simon says, "I am still here due to the use of restraint by staff | :04:38. | :04:45. | |
within the NHS." Russell a mental health nurse, "We don't use face | :04:46. | :04:49. | |
down restraint in the trust I work in. We use face up restraint as a | :04:50. | :04:54. | |
last resort." David texted, "I recently attended a local hospital | :04:55. | :04:58. | |
with my elderly father and I overheard four nurses on a smoking | :04:59. | :05:02. | |
break outside the mental health unit laughing about how they treated | :05:03. | :05:07. | |
patient on that shift. They came across as thugs." Andrea, "How about | :05:08. | :05:12. | |
discussing how much damage the mental health patients cause to the | :05:13. | :05:16. | |
staff who try to look after them when they kick off?" Another viewer | :05:17. | :05:22. | |
says, "It arises from the behaviour of consultant psychiatrists and | :05:23. | :05:27. | |
managers who are inclined towards, restraint, containment and control. | :05:28. | :05:31. | |
The heavy prescribing of drugs is the evidence which they claim is for | :05:32. | :05:35. | |
stabilisation, but it is to tranquillize and neutralise. | :05:36. | :05:40. | |
Recovery is not a word in use, but a misdiagnosis. My son spent five | :05:41. | :05:43. | |
years in the system post university." Thank you for those | :05:44. | :05:45. | |
comments. Do get in touch with us | :05:46. | :05:48. | |
throughout the morning. Use the hashtag Victoria live | :05:49. | :05:50. | |
and If you text, you will be charged Let's go back to Hugh now | :05:51. | :05:53. | |
for some more sport. We are going to reflect | :05:54. | :05:59. | |
on what was another fantastic Paralympic Games for Great Britain | :06:00. | :06:05. | |
who far surpassed their target, bringing home 147 medals and I'm | :06:06. | :06:07. | |
happy to say we have some of those Gold medallists Ellie Simmonds | :06:08. | :06:10. | |
and Dame Sarah Storey Thank you. Are you happy to be back | :06:11. | :06:22. | |
and have some downtime? Yeah, I'm really happy to be back. It is a | :06:23. | :06:26. | |
shame it is over because we trained so hard for the four years after | :06:27. | :06:30. | |
London. It was all focus was on Rio and now it is over, it is a low | :06:31. | :06:35. | |
point, but then it is really nice to be touch down and be home and have | :06:36. | :06:38. | |
all the support and see our friends and family and I'm looking forward | :06:39. | :06:42. | |
to going home and having a relaxing time and just yeah, enjoying the | :06:43. | :06:47. | |
success of the Games. And Sarah, congratulations to you as | :06:48. | :06:52. | |
well. Thank you. You become Great Britain's most successful female | :06:53. | :06:56. | |
Paralympian, how does that feel and was that one of the drives for you | :06:57. | :07:02. | |
going into the Games to surpass Dame Tanni Grey-Thompson? I'm very much | :07:03. | :07:06. | |
focussed on the events I've got in hand and I had four gold medals to | :07:07. | :07:18. | |
defend from the Games in London. And I'm still coming to terms with being | :07:19. | :07:26. | |
ahead of Tanni. Does it sink in for you at ninth in time or after the | :07:27. | :07:30. | |
plaudits that you won in sport is it another one on the list? Well, it is | :07:31. | :07:36. | |
about winning gold medals and doing your very best performance and the | :07:37. | :07:39. | |
tal whys are something, it feels like someone else keeps a tally of | :07:40. | :07:44. | |
them for me. It wasn't a major motivation, it was something | :07:45. | :07:47. | |
reminded to me a couple of days before the opening ceremony. I was | :07:48. | :07:54. | |
like goodness me, if I don't do it now, massive pressure. Someone else | :07:55. | :07:59. | |
will come along in a few years time. She could be the first one to go | :08:00. | :08:04. | |
beyond Mike Kenny who has 16 gold medals. Ellie, talk to us about the | :08:05. | :08:09. | |
200 meters individual medley, the first person to go under three | :08:10. | :08:12. | |
minutes, a new world record time. Does that make the hard work goes | :08:13. | :08:16. | |
into the Games worth it? For sure, it does. You only see us out on the | :08:17. | :08:21. | |
pool for however long we race for, but all the hard work anded | :08:22. | :08:26. | |
dedication and the 18 hours of swimming in the pool and plus the | :08:27. | :08:29. | |
gym session, it really pays off and this is what we do. We love to, I | :08:30. | :08:34. | |
love to compete. I'm a very competitive person so when it pays | :08:35. | :08:38. | |
off and it goes really well, it is icing on the cake really. Sarah, you | :08:39. | :08:43. | |
have a different thought process for this Games. You have got a young | :08:44. | :08:46. | |
family, what was it like preparing and having that on the side as well? | :08:47. | :08:52. | |
You just kind of adapt to your situations regardless of what they | :08:53. | :08:55. | |
are. To have a little one running around. She was 16 weeks when we | :08:56. | :09:00. | |
went on our first training camp and that was the point when I was | :09:01. | :09:03. | |
thinking if I was going to lose the baby weight. I did my first World | :09:04. | :09:08. | |
Championships when she was nine months old. She travelled the world | :09:09. | :09:11. | |
with me since and with Barney. She is a fit and well little girl and | :09:12. | :09:16. | |
loves her adventures and that gives me a completely different focus when | :09:17. | :09:20. | |
I get off the bike. I can't sit-in my room and worry about the next | :09:21. | :09:25. | |
race because I'm playing with princesses or ponies or reading | :09:26. | :09:30. | |
books. Ellie, you may have seen the words, they went viral of Alex | :09:31. | :09:36. | |
Brooker. Brooker talking about Alex Zanardi. Do you think that's the | :09:37. | :09:41. | |
overall message of the Paralympic Games to inspire, you know, people | :09:42. | :09:44. | |
who may feel down about their disability? Oh yeah, for sure. It is | :09:45. | :09:50. | |
great for Paralympics GB what we have achieved and to keep that | :09:51. | :09:55. | |
legacy continuing from London 2012. We are athletes, we train as hard as | :09:56. | :10:01. | |
the Olympians. For me, I'm smaller than someone a regular height. We | :10:02. | :10:05. | |
just give everything we've got and it is trying to get a positive | :10:06. | :10:09. | |
message and to anyone out there, if they believe they can do it, they | :10:10. | :10:13. | |
canment if you put your mind to it, you can do anything you want to | :10:14. | :10:16. | |
achieve. What's next for both of you? Have you thought about what you | :10:17. | :10:21. | |
will be doing? Will you be going to the next Games? I hope so. I really | :10:22. | :10:27. | |
want to enjoy the success I had from the Games and look forward to a | :10:28. | :10:31. | |
break and be with friends and family and just celebrate it with them. | :10:32. | :10:35. | |
Sarah have you thought about what you will be doing next? You have had | :10:36. | :10:39. | |
a long and successful career, are you going to add to it? I will be | :10:40. | :10:44. | |
deciding when I have a break. There will be a few more races that may | :10:45. | :10:48. | |
happen or may not, once I have a rest, I will look at the numbers and | :10:49. | :10:53. | |
see if I can go faster. My coach thinks I can go faster. He laid down | :10:54. | :10:59. | |
the gauntlet. Do you want to? I would love to be an athlete forever, | :11:00. | :11:02. | |
but sometimes you have to be realistic. Congratulations. Thank | :11:03. | :11:07. | |
you for coming in to join us. Congratulations again. That's all | :11:08. | :11:11. | |
the sport for now. Joanna, we will be back with more after 10.30am. See | :11:12. | :11:14. | |
you then, thank you very much. Reports are coming in from Syria | :11:15. | :11:19. | |
of an air attack on a clinic, with a number of medical workers | :11:20. | :11:22. | |
and at least nine rebel The strike was close | :11:23. | :11:25. | |
to the city of Aleppo. This latest raid appears to have | :11:26. | :11:28. | |
targeted the town of Khan Touman, Meanwhile recriminations continue | :11:29. | :11:31. | |
over the attack on the 31-truck aid Our Correspondent James Longman | :11:32. | :11:35. | |
is in neighbouring Lebanon So James the blame game goes on over | :11:36. | :11:57. | |
the attack on the aid convoy? Absolutely right. The United States | :11:58. | :12:01. | |
has said in no uncertain terms that they believe it was the Russians who | :12:02. | :12:06. | |
were responsible. They have said that they think that two jets took | :12:07. | :12:15. | |
off from a town on the East Coast of, sorry on the West Coast of Syria | :12:16. | :12:19. | |
from a Russian army base. They then tracked them as they travelled over | :12:20. | :12:23. | |
the north of the country and saw them as they dropped the bombs on | :12:24. | :12:27. | |
the convoy and the warehouse which, as you say, killed 20 people. The | :12:28. | :12:32. | |
Russians from their point of view have said they think there was a | :12:33. | :12:37. | |
spontaneous fire. There was no evidence that any munitions were | :12:38. | :12:43. | |
dropped and no explosives and they reject the US claim. I think that it | :12:44. | :12:48. | |
is going to have big implications for Russia if this is proven to be | :12:49. | :12:52. | |
the case. We heard the United Nations say yesterday it would | :12:53. | :12:55. | |
amount to a war crime if it were the case. So if this is Russia and if it | :12:56. | :13:01. | |
can be proven it is Russia then that surely throws enormous doubt on the | :13:02. | :13:03. | |
future of this ceasefire which I have got to say isn't really | :13:04. | :13:07. | |
happening at the moment. No, there was an airstrike at a medical centre | :13:08. | :13:12. | |
near Aleppo, wasn't there? It is not the first time that a medical centre | :13:13. | :13:23. | |
has been hit. No. You're right. This year alone 115 medical workers and | :13:24. | :13:27. | |
volunteers have been killed in Syria attending to the wounded, the | :13:28. | :13:31. | |
critically injured. We understand that this strike hit a clinic and | :13:32. | :13:36. | |
two ambulances and that the clinic was entirely levelled. Four have | :13:37. | :13:41. | |
been killed. A further fifth person is now in intensive care with severe | :13:42. | :13:46. | |
burns. It should be said that what the airstrike was doing was | :13:47. | :13:49. | |
targeting an area which is rebel-held. The group is not backed | :13:50. | :13:58. | |
by the Withes, but it does work in tandem with western-backed groups | :13:59. | :14:01. | |
and that's the issue in Syria. There is a tranche of groups which aren't | :14:02. | :14:05. | |
backed by the West and yet aren't considered extreme enough to be | :14:06. | :14:10. | |
targeted by western coalition aircraft, but they sit-in this | :14:11. | :14:13. | |
category that the Russians and the Syrians have decided are terrorists | :14:14. | :14:16. | |
and that's possibly what happened here. But as I say, we haven't had | :14:17. | :14:21. | |
any confirmation yet over who pedestrian formed that particular | :14:22. | :14:23. | |
airstrike. Of course, the hope had been that | :14:24. | :14:27. | |
the ceasefire, if it had worked, would have enabled aid to get in. | :14:28. | :14:31. | |
What hope is there now of aid getting in? Well, Boris Johnson, the | :14:32. | :14:38. | |
Foreign Secretary, said that this is the last show in town, the only show | :14:39. | :14:42. | |
in town this particular ceasefire agreement. The Russians and the | :14:43. | :14:46. | |
Americans are going to meet this week. We're told on Friday to see if | :14:47. | :14:52. | |
they can salvage this deal. And if they can, there is a possibility | :14:53. | :14:56. | |
that aid can get in, but we saw from the very beginning of the ceasefire | :14:57. | :14:59. | |
that that was just wasn't happening. The Syrians said that because the | :15:00. | :15:03. | |
Americans hadn't managed to get their duck ins a row if you like, | :15:04. | :15:06. | |
hadn't managed to get the opposition on board with the ceasefire, that | :15:07. | :15:10. | |
they weren't going to let aid into the areas that needed it most, there | :15:11. | :15:14. | |
are 600,000 people who live in areas that are totally cut off, another | :15:15. | :15:17. | |
four million people who live in places which are hard to reach, the | :15:18. | :15:23. | |
area which was hit, this convoy attack, that's designated as hard to | :15:24. | :15:26. | |
reach. Finding a way forward on the ceasefire is going to be very | :15:27. | :15:31. | |
difficult and there are some who say these airstrikes on this convoy and | :15:32. | :15:36. | |
also on the eastern part of the country where the Americans | :15:37. | :15:41. | |
accidentally hit Syrian Army personnel, it is all part of a | :15:42. | :15:46. | |
conspiracy that whilst the State Department and the Russian frn | :15:47. | :15:51. | |
ministry want to find some kind of deal, their respective Foreign | :15:52. | :15:55. | |
Ministeries don't, and they are trying to sabotage what maybe a | :15:56. | :15:58. | |
diplomatic solution to this crisis, because they don't want to share | :15:59. | :16:02. | |
information with one another and the Russian and the American military is | :16:03. | :16:05. | |
not happy about sharing intelligence. These issues need to | :16:06. | :16:09. | |
be fleshed out before any aid can get into the country and meanwhile | :16:10. | :16:12. | |
all the tens, hundreds of thousands of people, millions of people wait | :16:13. | :16:16. | |
for food and medical supplies that they really, really do need. Thank | :16:17. | :16:18. | |
you, James. Since May, we have been | :16:19. | :16:36. | |
following the story of the Brain family from Australia, | :16:37. | :16:39. | |
and their battle to stay in the UK. Yesterday the Government announced | :16:40. | :16:41. | |
they will not be deported and have issued a 12-month British residency | :16:42. | :16:45. | |
permit which will allow Kathryn and Greg to work and their son | :16:46. | :16:49. | |
Laughlin to continue They came to Scotland | :16:50. | :16:55. | |
following a drive by the Government encouraging foreign nationals | :16:56. | :17:02. | |
to relocate there in a bid But when the visa they needed | :17:03. | :17:04. | |
was abolished by the Home Office in 2012 they were left | :17:05. | :17:10. | |
in a situation described by First Minister Nicola Sturgeon | :17:11. | :17:12. | |
as absolutely outrageous. They were due to be deported in May | :17:13. | :17:14. | |
and then given a further leave You must be relieved? Very relieved. | :17:15. | :17:31. | |
It's a huge white off our shoulders. We're very grateful for the support | :17:32. | :17:34. | |
we have heard from so many people to get us to this point. Obviously, | :17:35. | :17:37. | |
Edward had been better if we had not had to go through this in the first | :17:38. | :17:41. | |
place we are very relieved that now, as you've said, we are hopeful that | :17:42. | :17:45. | |
when we see the visa, which we have not yet seen ourselves, that we will | :17:46. | :17:50. | |
be able to start work. Kathryn, I have to say, I have not seen you | :17:51. | :17:54. | |
smile like that since this has been unfolding, and we've spoken to you | :17:55. | :17:57. | |
several times - how are you feeling? Related. I said yesterday, I did not | :17:58. | :18:03. | |
realise how tight my stomach has been this last few months yet the | :18:04. | :18:07. | |
weight were carrying on our shoulders since this all started. | :18:08. | :18:13. | |
And yesterday when we got the phone call from the solicitor saying he | :18:14. | :18:17. | |
had just received a phone call from the Home Office saying that the | :18:18. | :18:20. | |
visas had been granted, I did not know weather to laugh or cry. It was | :18:21. | :18:26. | |
just, completely overcome by so many emotions at once. It's just amazing. | :18:27. | :18:30. | |
I just can't wait to get started in the job now. Tell us what it's been | :18:31. | :18:38. | |
like, because you haven't been working, you left the home you had | :18:39. | :18:42. | |
been living in, obviously, you were thinking at several points that you | :18:43. | :18:44. | |
might just have to go on a particular date, but that didn't | :18:45. | :18:52. | |
happen. You have a lot of support, but inside, it's the two of you who | :18:53. | :18:55. | |
were facing your lives changing - how did you cope with that? Indeed, | :18:56. | :19:00. | |
I think the hardest part was trying to keep Laughlin as sheltered as | :19:01. | :19:04. | |
possible from the ugly side of it all. Trying to keep positive for | :19:05. | :19:09. | |
him, to say, we're doing everything we can, everybody was doing | :19:10. | :19:13. | |
everything to make sure that we find a way to stay. Because it was | :19:14. | :19:17. | |
tearing him apart, he would go to school and he was not sure weather | :19:18. | :19:20. | |
he would still be going to school next week to see his friends. And | :19:21. | :19:23. | |
these are people he had grown up with since he was a toddler. They're | :19:24. | :19:27. | |
lifelong friends and I'm sure that's how it will be. That was the hardest | :19:28. | :19:32. | |
part, explaining to Laughlin. He asked a few times, why do we have to | :19:33. | :19:36. | |
keep fighting to stay in our home? That was the hardest part of it. | :19:37. | :19:39. | |
It's still not completely certain for the long-term, is it, Greg Ollie | :19:40. | :19:44. | |
it is a 12 month residency permit, but you're hoping that it will lead | :19:45. | :19:48. | |
to something more permanent? Yes, we've actually not seen it yet. We | :19:49. | :19:52. | |
only had the phone call from the solicitor yesterday saying that he | :19:53. | :19:55. | |
had had a phone call from the Home Office saying that a visa had been | :19:56. | :19:59. | |
approved. We're not sure of the terms and conditions. We understand | :20:00. | :20:03. | |
that we will be going through this again in 12 months' time, but from | :20:04. | :20:06. | |
the much better position that Kathryn will have been working with | :20:07. | :20:11. | |
our hotel for 12 months. I know with previous experience, once an | :20:12. | :20:14. | |
employer realises what they've got, with Kathryn, they don't let go, so | :20:15. | :20:18. | |
we're feeling very confident about our future now! And there is a | :20:19. | :20:22. | |
difference in your demeanour as well. Obviously, you both feel very | :20:23. | :20:27. | |
different now, when you look back at the pressure you've been under? I | :20:28. | :20:33. | |
described this, when this first started in April, and the media | :20:34. | :20:36. | |
attention came to us huddled I described it to Kathryn, I said, I | :20:37. | :20:42. | |
feel like we have to roll five sixes every time. One missed step would | :20:43. | :20:51. | |
mean it is all over. Like we were playing yahtzee. So, to be able to | :20:52. | :20:58. | |
step away from that situation, yes, it's an enormous relief. When you | :20:59. | :21:02. | |
look back come to you feel like you can take something positive from | :21:03. | :21:05. | |
such a difficult experience, is there anything? We do, the amount of | :21:06. | :21:12. | |
support that we had from our village, Dingwall, the Highlands, | :21:13. | :21:15. | |
Scotland, throughout the UK. We've had people with enormous profiles, | :21:16. | :21:23. | |
like Tom from The Proclaimers, Alex Salmond, Nicola Sturgeon, everybody. | :21:24. | :21:27. | |
We are not special, it clearly was not about us. But we realised this | :21:28. | :21:31. | |
is a situation which has really touched a nerve, something which | :21:32. | :21:35. | |
really needs to be reviewed. Because the system as it currently is is | :21:36. | :21:40. | |
broken. In a way, we're glad that for better or worse, we were able to | :21:41. | :21:44. | |
shed some light on it. And now back to normal life channel Kathryn, | :21:45. | :21:49. | |
you've got to start your job now? This is it! It's actually quite | :21:50. | :21:53. | |
funny. Our lawyer does have a lovely sense of humour. Very dry! When he | :21:54. | :21:58. | |
rang me at the day to break the news, it's hard to tell over the | :21:59. | :22:04. | |
phone weather he's smiling or not, and he broke the news saying, he had | :22:05. | :22:08. | |
just received a call from the Home Office, and it's not good news, I'm | :22:09. | :22:13. | |
afraid. I thought, what now?! He said, looks like you're going to | :22:14. | :22:16. | |
have one hell of a commute from Dingwall to Aviemore for the fuzzy | :22:17. | :22:21. | |
able future! So that was when it all just want us the wave of emotion | :22:22. | :22:25. | |
just came over me! I couldn't believe that we have finally got | :22:26. | :22:29. | |
back answer that we had been searching for for so long. It's | :22:30. | :22:32. | |
really good to talk to you both and see you both so happy. Thanks. | :22:33. | :22:42. | |
Lot of you getting in touch on the restraint on mental health units. | :22:43. | :22:49. | |
This one says, I have worked in a medium secure unit for seven years. | :22:50. | :22:53. | |
I think it needs to end but the minister needs to work closely with | :22:54. | :22:58. | |
the mental health units. Terry on WhatsApp - the entire sector needs | :22:59. | :23:02. | |
restructure. Facedown restraint and the excessive misuse of it is one | :23:03. | :23:06. | |
symptom of a larger problems of underfunding, under training, | :23:07. | :23:09. | |
understaffing and many other problems, including how learning | :23:10. | :23:13. | |
difficulties and mental difficulties are approached within society full | :23:14. | :23:16. | |
stop this one - my daughter was restrained more than once by a large | :23:17. | :23:20. | |
group of staff and she was later charged with assault by a staff | :23:21. | :23:24. | |
member. This one says, who protects the staff from biting, kicking and | :23:25. | :23:28. | |
spitting? This one - why don't you interview staff who face danger | :23:29. | :23:32. | |
every day? I am a retired registered mental health nurse, and over the | :23:33. | :23:36. | |
years, every restraint I have seen has been carried out within the | :23:37. | :23:39. | |
rules. Keep getting in touch with us. | :23:40. | :23:50. | |
There have been violent protests in the US town of Charlotte | :23:51. | :23:53. | |
in North Carolina after police shot dead a black man who they claimed | :23:54. | :23:56. | |
The police said 12 officers were injured in the disturbances. | :23:57. | :24:00. | |
On Monday, police in the city of Tulsa in Oklahoma said that | :24:01. | :24:02. | |
a black man they had shot dead on Friday was unarmed. | :24:03. | :24:08. | |
Earlier this morning police blocked roads and motorways -- protesters | :24:09. | :24:14. | |
blocked roads and motorways in north Charlotte before protesting with | :24:15. | :24:19. | |
police. I get pulled over, it's like I'm going to get shot, armed or not. | :24:20. | :24:23. | |
It's been growing, people getting shot everywhere, man. If you're a | :24:24. | :24:27. | |
black guy, you probably should be scared, because we're the ones | :24:28. | :24:33. | |
getting shot. Let's talk now to a reporter for the news station Fox 46 | :24:34. | :24:38. | |
in Charlotte, joining us from North Carolina. Well, it is reminiscent | :24:39. | :24:43. | |
obviously of several incidents which have unfolded before - just tell us | :24:44. | :24:50. | |
more about the shooting of Keith Lamont Scott, which is what has | :24:51. | :24:54. | |
sparked these protests? Right now we are still waiting for more | :24:55. | :24:58. | |
information to come out. Like you guys were saying, the police say he | :24:59. | :25:01. | |
was armed, the family says he was not. Police told us they recovered a | :25:02. | :25:11. | |
gun at the scene. There was a warrant that it was not for him, it | :25:12. | :25:14. | |
was for someone completely different. Keith Lamont Scott was in | :25:15. | :25:23. | |
his car at the time, got out of the car, and police said he posed an | :25:24. | :25:26. | |
immediate, deadly threat. And that's when they shot him. The protests | :25:27. | :25:31. | |
started late in the afternoon on Tuesday and they have been going for | :25:32. | :25:35. | |
about 12 hours now. And the fact that those protests started so | :25:36. | :25:38. | |
quickly after the incident and straights how strongly people feel | :25:39. | :25:41. | |
about what has been going on? It really does. And as I say, it's | :25:42. | :25:47. | |
still going. I just got back to our news station but it's still going. I | :25:48. | :25:52. | |
was on scene for about nine hours. Police told us about eight hours ago | :25:53. | :25:56. | |
they were looking to leave. They thought everything was dying down. | :25:57. | :26:00. | |
But protesters started coming at them in their general direction, | :26:01. | :26:04. | |
getting up in their face. That's when the tear gas came out, that | :26:05. | :26:07. | |
really didn't do anything but make the protesters even more, instead of | :26:08. | :26:12. | |
sending them away to their homes, it's just sent them to different | :26:13. | :26:16. | |
parts of the city. So you had three different groups of protesters | :26:17. | :26:19. | |
within a few hours in different parts of the city, getting more and | :26:20. | :26:23. | |
more angry. And it's taken a while to calm down, but it hasn't stopped. | :26:24. | :26:27. | |
How are the authorities reacting and what are they doing over what can | :26:28. | :26:32. | |
they say and do to try to sarky intentions? It's been tough, it's | :26:33. | :26:37. | |
been really hard to calm these protesters down. A lot of them very | :26:38. | :26:39. | |
angry and emotional. There were certain times, I will take you to a | :26:40. | :26:46. | |
scene - half of a highway was completely shutdown because | :26:47. | :26:49. | |
protesters were making their way onto the interstate here in North | :26:50. | :26:52. | |
Carolina. They had it shot down, they were lighting things on fire in | :26:53. | :26:56. | |
the streets, gathering rocks and bottles, throwing them at cars that | :26:57. | :26:59. | |
were coming in a different direction and it started to get more and more | :27:00. | :27:04. | |
violent, and police were in their riot gear on the side, wondering | :27:05. | :27:07. | |
what to do, trying to come up with some kind of a game plan, because | :27:08. | :27:10. | |
they were completely outnumbered. Had a few dozen police officers and | :27:11. | :27:15. | |
hundreds of protesters at this scene, at that moment. They were | :27:16. | :27:19. | |
getting more and more violent by the minute. It's took them a while to | :27:20. | :27:23. | |
develop a game plan. They were using tear gas, threatening to arrest | :27:24. | :27:27. | |
people, and I think the tear gas did get people away. Right now you have | :27:28. | :27:32. | |
a lot of dispersed groups across Charlotte right now. But a lot of | :27:33. | :27:36. | |
people protesting very loudly. So it remains quite volatile situation? | :27:37. | :27:40. | |
There is actually a rough Walmart superstore here in town that just | :27:41. | :27:45. | |
got looted not too long ago. People were stealing electronics and that | :27:46. | :27:51. | |
store is now boarded up. They have a lot of things in front of the doors, | :27:52. | :27:55. | |
they're completely shutdown and we're not sure if they will open up | :27:56. | :27:59. | |
again tomorrow because people have been raiding that store. Thank you | :28:00. | :28:00. | |
very much for joining us. Still to come: We'll have the latest | :28:01. | :28:06. | |
on why police officers are being trained to spot | :28:07. | :28:09. | |
controlling or coercive behaviour And a looming crisis in our care | :28:10. | :28:11. | |
homes as nearly 80,000 workers may lose their right to live and work | :28:12. | :28:16. | |
in the UK after Brexit. We'll be speaking to care home | :28:17. | :28:19. | |
owners about their concerns. With the news, here's Annita | :28:20. | :28:39. | |
in the BBC Newsroom. A French medical aid agency in Syria | :28:40. | :28:41. | |
says four of its staff were killed and a nurse critically wounded | :28:42. | :28:44. | |
after a night-time air strike hit a clinic | :28:45. | :28:46. | |
in a rebel-held town near Aleppo. The building was completely | :28:47. | :28:49. | |
levelled, and more people are feared The United States has meanwhile said | :28:50. | :28:51. | |
it believes Russia was responsible for the bombing of an aid convoy | :28:52. | :28:55. | |
on Monday which killed 20 people. Russia has expressed | :28:56. | :28:58. | |
outrage at the accusation. This programme has learned | :28:59. | :29:00. | |
that the number of people with mental health problems | :29:01. | :29:02. | |
and learning difficulties who have been physically restrained has | :29:03. | :29:04. | |
increased significantly in the last two years despite a drive | :29:05. | :29:07. | |
by the government to two years despite a drive | :29:08. | :29:10. | |
by the Government to There has also been little change | :29:11. | :29:12. | |
in the use of "face-down" restraint, We spoke to a former patient | :29:13. | :29:19. | |
who was restrained face down six Ghazal flipped upside down, all | :29:20. | :29:31. | |
dignity stripped, treated like an animal, and it forces you to go to | :29:32. | :29:34. | |
places you've never been before. I had never shown any aggression or | :29:35. | :29:38. | |
resistance, a quiet, middle-aged, middle-class woman. It was just | :29:39. | :29:39. | |
horrifying! There have been violent protests | :29:40. | :29:40. | |
in the US town of Charlotte in North Carolina after police shot | :29:41. | :29:45. | |
dead a black man who they claimed The police said twelve officers | :29:46. | :29:49. | |
were injured in the disturbances. On Monday, police in the city | :29:50. | :29:55. | |
of Tulsa in Oklahoma said that a black man they had shot dead | :29:56. | :29:58. | |
on Friday was unarmed. Police who deal with domestic abuse | :29:59. | :30:00. | |
incidents are being trained to spot the signs of coercive or controlling | :30:01. | :30:03. | |
behaviour which became A new pilot scheme in three forces | :30:04. | :30:05. | |
in England and Wales has been launched after research, | :30:06. | :30:10. | |
conducted for the College of Policing, suggested that officers | :30:11. | :30:11. | |
were focusing on domestic cases involving violence and overlooking | :30:12. | :30:14. | |
other risk factors. Voting closes at midday today | :30:15. | :30:18. | |
in the Labour leadership election. The result of the contest, | :30:19. | :30:25. | |
between Jeremy Corbyn and his challenger Owen Smith, | :30:26. | :30:28. | |
will be announced on Saturday. Yesterday, Labour's National | :30:29. | :30:30. | |
Executive Committee failed to agree a deal over how the Shadow Cabinet | :30:31. | :30:32. | |
should be chosen, despite That's a summary of the latest | :30:33. | :30:37. | |
news, join me for BBC Here's Hugh with | :30:38. | :30:45. | |
the sports headlines. England and Saracens wing | :30:46. | :30:57. | |
Chris Ashton is banned for 13 weeks after being found guilty of biting | :30:58. | :31:01. | |
the Northampton prop Alex Waller in their Premiership | :31:02. | :31:04. | |
match last weekend. He won't play again until the 19th | :31:05. | :31:05. | |
December so misses out on the chance to play | :31:06. | :31:10. | |
in England's Autumn internationals. In football, England's women beat | :31:11. | :31:13. | |
Belgium 2-0 to finish top of their group in qualifying | :31:14. | :31:17. | |
for Euro 2017 - that extends their unbeaten | :31:18. | :31:20. | |
run to seven matches. Scotland had also already qualified | :31:21. | :31:24. | |
and they ended their campaign with an impressive 2-1 victory away | :31:25. | :31:27. | |
to group winners Iceland, Chelsea are into the fourth | :31:28. | :31:29. | |
round of the EFL Cup, but they needed extra time | :31:30. | :31:35. | |
to beat Leicester City. Cesc Fabregas scored his first two | :31:36. | :31:38. | |
of the season to send them through. All last night's results | :31:39. | :31:44. | |
are on the BBC Sport website. And Rangers beat Queen of the South | :31:45. | :31:47. | |
5-0 to reach the semi-finals That's all the sport for now. Thank | :31:48. | :31:49. | |
you very much, see you later. Police officers dealing | :31:50. | :32:03. | |
with domestic abuse incidents are being trained to spot the signs | :32:04. | :32:04. | |
of coercive or Research for the College of Policing | :32:05. | :32:07. | |
suggested that officers were focusing on cases involving | :32:08. | :32:10. | |
violence and missing those where suspects tried | :32:11. | :32:12. | |
to control their victim Coercive or controlling behaviour | :32:13. | :32:14. | |
became a criminal offence last year. Our Home Affairs correspondent | :32:15. | :32:17. | |
Danny Shaw is here. Why is it proving to be so difficult | :32:18. | :32:28. | |
for police to actually spot this? I think part of it is because police | :32:29. | :32:33. | |
have some old-fashioned attitudes perhaps, many of them do a deal | :32:34. | :32:37. | |
professionally with domestic violence cases, but some are not | :32:38. | :32:41. | |
attuned to the dynamics of a domestic abuse relationship. When | :32:42. | :32:45. | |
they go to an incident and they can see that someone has been injured or | :32:46. | :32:50. | |
that there are clear signs of violence perhaps, you know, parts of | :32:51. | :32:53. | |
the house have been damaged then it is quite obvious that violence is | :32:54. | :32:57. | |
involved, there could be a domestic abuse incident and clearly, the risk | :32:58. | :33:02. | |
is assessed and dealt with, but where those signs of violence, | :33:03. | :33:06. | |
injury, aren't there, then it is more subtle and it requires an | :33:07. | :33:11. | |
appreciation of perhaps differences in the relationship between the two | :33:12. | :33:15. | |
people involved, the way the victim perhaps is behaving, that they don't | :33:16. | :33:21. | |
spot that there maybe a coercive for controlling relationship taking | :33:22. | :33:25. | |
place and vemp has shown that that can be -- research has shown that | :33:26. | :33:30. | |
can be a trigger factor for serious incidents of domestic violence | :33:31. | :33:33. | |
later. That's why, this research by the College of Policing is showing | :33:34. | :33:36. | |
that police are not spotting these signs and why they have now set-up | :33:37. | :33:41. | |
this pilot scheme involving three forces where officers will be given | :33:42. | :33:46. | |
specific training to spot those signs of coercion and control. | :33:47. | :33:50. | |
Presumably it is difficult to spot something that is potentially very | :33:51. | :33:55. | |
subtle when police go into a house in response it a call. So what does | :33:56. | :33:59. | |
the training involve? What are they being given? Well, I think this will | :34:00. | :34:04. | |
be given specific pointers about what to look out for. This doesn't | :34:05. | :34:09. | |
mean that they go in heavy handed and suddenly they see someone who is | :34:10. | :34:15. | |
clearly rather fragile and they necessarily assume they are the | :34:16. | :34:18. | |
victim of domestic violence, but they have to risk assess these cases | :34:19. | :34:21. | |
and at the moment the evidence is that they are ignoring them. So it | :34:22. | :34:26. | |
is really shifting the emphasis a bit saying OK, there may not be | :34:27. | :34:30. | |
violence or injury involved, but there are psychological factors | :34:31. | :34:33. | |
involved that could be at play which could be just as dangerous in the | :34:34. | :34:37. | |
long run. I think the other issue according to the research that's | :34:38. | :34:41. | |
been done, they are bogged down in processes and paperwork and there is | :34:42. | :34:45. | |
a huge backlog of cases which isn't helping either. And my concern is | :34:46. | :34:51. | |
that this new training is not going to necessarily address that. That | :34:52. | :34:56. | |
problem of workload, one officer says he has 170 cases of potential | :34:57. | :35:01. | |
domestic violence, any of which could lead to a murder, that has to | :35:02. | :35:05. | |
be risk assessed. So I think the problem is, and you're right to say | :35:06. | :35:10. | |
this, that if you add in all the coercive and control potential in | :35:11. | :35:13. | |
cases that could just add to the case load. Has that workload | :35:14. | :35:19. | |
increased since this new offence came in? I don't think it is since | :35:20. | :35:25. | |
the new offence came in. I think it is something with domestic abuse is | :35:26. | :35:29. | |
very much on the agenda in a way it wasn't, 10, 15, 20 years ago, | :35:30. | :35:33. | |
officers are very much more are aware of it and of the need to | :35:34. | :35:37. | |
conduct proper risk assessments because they know what could happen | :35:38. | :35:41. | |
if they don't and if appropriate steps aren't taken. | :35:42. | :35:53. | |
Brangelina are no more. Let's of you getting in touch on | :35:54. | :36:01. | |
restraint. Rose says, "I am a victim of mental health physical | :36:02. | :36:05. | |
restriction. I had a terrible experience when I was sectioned in | :36:06. | :36:09. | |
20140. I was in a low mood and tearful. One nurse asked whether I'd | :36:10. | :36:15. | |
rather go into my room or prefer to go to the police to seep that night. | :36:16. | :36:22. | |
I chose to go to the police, the police forcefully restrained me in a | :36:23. | :36:25. | |
wheelchair. I was restrain at hospital. Mental health services | :36:26. | :36:35. | |
need improvement. ." Another e-mail, "I am a nurse in an NHS secure unit. | :36:36. | :36:38. | |
All you are talking about is the welfare of the patients, what about | :36:39. | :36:41. | |
the welfare of the staff who are spat at, hit and stabbed? Are staff | :36:42. | :36:49. | |
just to stand by and allow this so as to not to cause a patient | :36:50. | :36:53. | |
distress?" Vulnerable older and disabled people | :36:54. | :36:56. | |
in need of Social care could be The charity Independent Age | :36:57. | :36:59. | |
is making that claim in a report They say around 80,000 paid-carers | :37:00. | :37:04. | |
come from the EU and that even a small cut in that workforce | :37:05. | :37:08. | |
could prove highly damaging. Millions of people in Britain depend | :37:09. | :37:10. | |
on Adult Social Care Services to help them stay living in their | :37:11. | :37:17. | |
own homes or residential care. Help includes with eating, | :37:18. | :37:24. | |
drinking, washing and staying clean. Simply, without recruiting | :37:25. | :37:26. | |
from the EU, it's feared there won't be enough people to look | :37:27. | :37:28. | |
after an ageing population. Here's Sangita Myska | :37:29. | :37:34. | |
on a system under strain. This was the night Britain chose to | :37:35. | :37:44. | |
Brexit, cutting migration from the European Union was a key concern for | :37:45. | :37:50. | |
many voters. Including the over 65s, 60% of whom | :37:51. | :37:58. | |
voted out. It is putting the great back into Britain. Instead of | :37:59. | :38:03. | |
English, we will be Great Britain again. According to a report by | :38:04. | :38:07. | |
Independent Age any cut could affect them the most. Our ageing population | :38:08. | :38:13. | |
has complex needs and our adult social care system is facing huge | :38:14. | :38:17. | |
operational and financial pressures. There are currently 1.3 million | :38:18. | :38:24. | |
people working in the sector. Over 80,000 of them are migrants | :38:25. | :38:28. | |
from the European Union. So what has the Government said | :38:29. | :38:32. | |
about their job security? Well, back in July, the Health Secretary, | :38:33. | :38:36. | |
Jeremy Hunt, offered this. We will not end up in a situation where EU | :38:37. | :38:42. | |
nationals, upon whom we depend in the health and social care system | :38:43. | :38:46. | |
and they do an outstanding job, would not be allowed to remain in | :38:47. | :38:50. | |
the UK. The Home Secretary has said she is very confident that we would | :38:51. | :38:53. | |
be able to negotiate a deal where they're able to stay here as long as | :38:54. | :38:58. | |
they wish. Of course, Brexit negotiations haven't even started. | :38:59. | :39:03. | |
And experts say there aren't enough British born care workers to fill | :39:04. | :39:06. | |
the gaps. Care providers say attracting people into the industry | :39:07. | :39:10. | |
is difficult. Shifts are often long and caring can be physically and | :39:11. | :39:15. | |
emotionally demanding. Hands on carers are often paid on or around | :39:16. | :39:20. | |
the national Living Wage, that's ?7.20 an hour. Worse still, staff | :39:21. | :39:28. | |
turnover rates are running at 24%. That means about 300,000 paid carers | :39:29. | :39:32. | |
quit their job every year. With tens of thousands of unfilled | :39:33. | :39:37. | |
vacancies, the pressure on those in work is going up. | :39:38. | :39:43. | |
Today's report says unless pay and conditions improve substantially, in | :39:44. | :39:47. | |
20 years time, we'll have a shortfall of 350,000 workers. They | :39:48. | :39:52. | |
say that means even a small cut in the number of EU workers coming into | :39:53. | :39:56. | |
the industry will put vulnerable older and disabled people at risk. | :39:57. | :40:05. | |
Let's talk now to a panel of people on how they think the industry | :40:06. | :40:09. | |
will cope once we actually leave the European Union. | :40:10. | :40:11. | |
Bob Padron owns Penrose Care, a home care company, | :40:12. | :40:13. | |
and Olga Garcia, a Spanish migrant worker who works for Bob's company. | :40:14. | :40:16. | |
Daniel Kawczynski, Conservative MP and member of the Commons | :40:17. | :40:18. | |
Foreign Affairs Committee who supports Brexit. | :40:19. | :40:20. | |
Cristina Irimie is the director of a company which recruits care | :40:21. | :40:23. | |
workers from an agency in Romania, and Dr Jamie Wilson, | :40:24. | :40:26. | |
Founder of the home care service "HomeTouch" | :40:27. | :40:34. | |
Christina, you work with a recruitment firm, so are you seeing | :40:35. | :40:39. | |
an impact already even though we haven't actually left? Yes, | :40:40. | :40:43. | |
unfortunately we could see the impact straight after the result of | :40:44. | :40:51. | |
the referendum. Because it became increasingly difficult to attract | :40:52. | :40:55. | |
care workers even from countries in Eastern Europe and then after Brexit | :40:56. | :41:04. | |
people started being worried and unfortunately, all this uncertainty, | :41:05. | :41:07. | |
it shows a big impact in the industry. There is more demand that | :41:08. | :41:12. | |
we have from employers in the UK that there is carers to fill the | :41:13. | :41:17. | |
positions with. Is it a minority, a majority? What's the sort of, can | :41:18. | :41:23. | |
you put figures on it? I think we dropped in figures by 25%. Because | :41:24. | :41:27. | |
of the uncertainty? Because of the uncertainty. So Bob, tell us how | :41:28. | :41:32. | |
much you rely on workers from Europe in your home? We're a home care | :41:33. | :41:37. | |
provider, so we support people in their home. We are a newer | :41:38. | :41:44. | |
organisation so our workforce is roughly 80% EU which independent age | :41:45. | :41:50. | |
found was the proportionate of new workers entering social care. And so | :41:51. | :41:53. | |
if there is a reduction in the number of workers wanting to come | :41:54. | :41:57. | |
here from Europe, it could have quite an impact on your business? It | :41:58. | :42:03. | |
could have quite an impact. We have seen a strong impact as well from | :42:04. | :42:06. | |
July. We have seen a decline in applications and it has been more | :42:07. | :42:10. | |
difficult to hire. What does that mean for you? It means we need to | :42:11. | :42:14. | |
figure out a way to adapt. We're trying to figure out how exactly to | :42:15. | :42:20. | |
do that. I think that social care has really two main issues in terms | :42:21. | :42:25. | |
of recruitment, not just recruiting EU nationals, but recruiting locals | :42:26. | :42:29. | |
and that's one, working conditions tend to be poor. We fix that. We pay | :42:30. | :42:38. | |
the London Living Wage and we pay for travel time and we give our | :42:39. | :42:42. | |
workers a guaranteed minimum hours, but the second issue recruiting | :42:43. | :42:45. | |
people into social care is the general image. That's the broader | :42:46. | :42:50. | |
picture. Let's bring in one of your workers from Spain. You have been | :42:51. | :42:55. | |
here for four years. How do you feel about your status here since the | :42:56. | :42:59. | |
Brexit result? Well, the first thing I feel a little bit insecure because | :43:00. | :43:03. | |
after four years I don't know what is going to happen. I'm a little | :43:04. | :43:10. | |
lucky because next year I can ask for dual nationality, but most of my | :43:11. | :43:13. | |
work colleagues, they cannot do that. They don't know what is going | :43:14. | :43:18. | |
to happen in the future. Well, to be honest, nobody knows. | :43:19. | :43:24. | |
Dr Jamie Wilson, you also run a home care service. Bob was saying it is | :43:25. | :43:30. | |
important to adapt sort of looking at the bigger picture, if there are | :43:31. | :43:33. | |
concerns around what Brexit might mean for workers from Europe, are | :43:34. | :43:37. | |
there other issues that companies like yours just need to be looking | :43:38. | :43:43. | |
at? It is a different model of care and we have been very adaptive right | :43:44. | :43:47. | |
from the start in terms of being able to recruit both UK workers and | :43:48. | :43:51. | |
people who were previously in the care something for and the reason | :43:52. | :43:56. | |
for that is because carers earn 50% more than through most agencies so | :43:57. | :44:04. | |
they earn above ?12 an hour and 20% of our current workers are from the | :44:05. | :44:07. | |
EU, but we don't have such a problem in finding the carers, the issue for | :44:08. | :44:12. | |
us really is, you know, finding the quality workers. That's important, | :44:13. | :44:17. | |
but our model has enabled people who were previously working in the care | :44:18. | :44:22. | |
sector, leaving because of the poor working conditions actually coming | :44:23. | :44:25. | |
back to us because they have got better working conditions with this | :44:26. | :44:29. | |
model where they have more continuity with each client, better | :44:30. | :44:32. | |
pay, more freedom to manage their own schedules. So for you, how much | :44:33. | :44:37. | |
of a concern is Brexit? It is a concern in the sense that, I think, | :44:38. | :44:43. | |
once, you know, we leave the EU, then that will potentially reduce | :44:44. | :44:48. | |
the pool of people coming into the UK, but as I say, we're confident | :44:49. | :44:51. | |
there are a large number of people who want to work with our model. For | :44:52. | :44:55. | |
example, we have been running for 18 months and we've, you know, seen | :44:56. | :45:00. | |
8,000 care workers and we have 400 working with us, we're not short of | :45:01. | :45:05. | |
applications. So it is actually a different kind of model and I think | :45:06. | :45:09. | |
the point I would make in this segment is that, the industry in a | :45:10. | :45:13. | |
way needs to change and think about how do we bring really good people | :45:14. | :45:17. | |
back into the sector and one of the ways to do that is to try and find | :45:18. | :45:19. | |
ways to increase their pay. Daniel Kawczynski, how do you see | :45:20. | :45:35. | |
this, because the negotiations have not even started? First of all, I | :45:36. | :45:41. | |
have seen in my constituency Shrewsbury the extraordinary kills | :45:42. | :45:43. | |
unprofessionalism and caring that certain Polish and other immigrants | :45:44. | :45:48. | |
from Europe have given to residents of care homes in my constituency. | :45:49. | :45:53. | |
But ultimately, immigration was the number one issue at the last general | :45:54. | :45:57. | |
election, and with net migration to this country of over 350,000 a year, | :45:58. | :46:03. | |
the British people expect, and they've expressed this very loudly | :46:04. | :46:06. | |
and clearly, they expect us to manage the immigration system. And | :46:07. | :46:12. | |
that is what we have to do in a post-Brexit era. Of course, people | :46:13. | :46:16. | |
with high skills that are in shortages in the United Kingdom, | :46:17. | :46:20. | |
they will be able to apply for work permits, like people do at the | :46:21. | :46:23. | |
moment from outside the European Union. We also have a very skilled | :46:24. | :46:28. | |
workers coming from the Philippines and from places like Nigeria. Just | :46:29. | :46:32. | |
to be specific, then, would you see care workers as being key in that | :46:33. | :46:37. | |
context? I think it's extremely important that we ensure that more | :46:38. | :46:42. | |
people and more British nationals within our own country are motivated | :46:43. | :46:47. | |
to work in this very important sector. But ultimately, if is in | :46:48. | :46:57. | |
shortages, and a certain organisation or group of care homes | :46:58. | :47:01. | |
can prove that they can only recruit from overseas, of course, those | :47:02. | :47:05. | |
people wanting to recruit will be able to put in their work permits. | :47:06. | :47:09. | |
But please, let's not forget, this is a very important issue and your | :47:10. | :47:12. | |
other commentators have obviously skirted over this issue - we have to | :47:13. | :47:18. | |
demonstrate to the British people that we can control our own borders | :47:19. | :47:22. | |
and that we can make sure that immigration works for the benefit of | :47:23. | :47:26. | |
the United Kingdom. It must be properly managed. So, Bob Padron, | :47:27. | :47:32. | |
respond to that, why not turn to more British workers within your | :47:33. | :47:36. | |
model? I am absolutely keen to turn to whoever wants to work in social | :47:37. | :47:40. | |
care, whoever has a vocation to take care of our most vulnerable. But as | :47:41. | :47:47. | |
the MP said, if there is a shortage of domestic workers, who do need to | :47:48. | :47:51. | |
find people willing to work. And of course, if they want to come from | :47:52. | :47:55. | |
the EU from elsewhere, that's good. But you said earlier that you have | :47:56. | :48:01. | |
to adapt - do you think it's possible to make up the shortfall | :48:02. | :48:05. | |
with British workers? What is your experience in trying to find British | :48:06. | :48:10. | |
workers? Well, it comes again back to the image problem. I have a | :48:11. | :48:14. | |
recent case where we are very close to hiring a new worker who was | :48:15. | :48:18. | |
British, and she seemed very excited to come and work for us, but then, | :48:19. | :48:22. | |
shortly before she was Curnow apply to us, she told me she spoke to her | :48:23. | :48:27. | |
mother and she told me that her mother said, this does not look | :48:28. | :48:30. | |
good, you should not be doing this, you should do something else. So | :48:31. | :48:35. | |
it's not just about the working conditions, we also need to work on | :48:36. | :48:39. | |
attracting anyone, British or not. Daniel Kawczynski, timber sometimes | :48:40. | :48:45. | |
British workers do not want to do the work that others are prepared to | :48:46. | :48:50. | |
do? Obviously, more needs to be done in order to encourage people to join | :48:51. | :48:55. | |
and work in this sector. But can I make a point which is important? I | :48:56. | :48:58. | |
could take you now to towns and cities in Poland, and also in | :48:59. | :49:03. | |
Romania, where they are starting to feel the real impact as a result of | :49:04. | :49:08. | |
this brain drain of highly skilled and educated workers coming over. So | :49:09. | :49:13. | |
although we are plugging our own shortfall, and there is the lady you | :49:14. | :49:18. | |
interviewed whose company is recruiting remain young care workers | :49:19. | :49:22. | |
to come and work in the United Kingdom, what about the care homes | :49:23. | :49:28. | |
in Romania? And who is actually fulfilling shortages that they have? | :49:29. | :49:32. | |
It is highly irresponsible to be dealing with our own problems by | :49:33. | :49:35. | |
then pushing the problem further down the line to our neighbours in | :49:36. | :49:38. | |
Europe. We are right out of time, I'm afraid. Thank you all very much. | :49:39. | :49:44. | |
No doubt we will talk about this again. | :49:45. | :49:50. | |
A spokesperson from the newly-formed Department For Exiting | :49:51. | :49:54. | |
One of the world's most famous couples on the world - | :49:55. | :50:10. | |
Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie - are splitting up after | :50:11. | :50:12. | |
Angelina Jolie's lawyer confirmed yesterday that she has filed | :50:13. | :50:17. | |
for divorce for what she says is "the health of the family". | :50:18. | :50:20. | |
Brad Pitt says he's "very saddened" by the decision and has asked | :50:21. | :50:23. | |
for privacy for their six children at this difficult time. | :50:24. | :50:25. | |
This how the media and fans in the US have been | :50:26. | :50:28. | |
After 12 years together and six children, Angelina Jolie is filing | :50:29. | :50:33. | |
for divorce from Brad Pitt. You might want to sit down - Brad and | :50:34. | :50:39. | |
Angelina are divorcing. It's true. Angelina Jolie filed the paperwork | :50:40. | :50:44. | |
on Monday. They stood the test of time in terms of Hollywood time, | :50:45. | :50:48. | |
together for 12 years. I think that even though initially maybe people | :50:49. | :50:52. | |
have their questions, who they built this beautiful family. I'm really | :50:53. | :50:58. | |
upset, I really wish that Brad and Angelina were together for ever as a | :50:59. | :51:04. | |
couple. I really am sad about it. Surprised but not surprised. I | :51:05. | :51:07. | |
thought they would be together longer. | :51:08. | :51:11. | |
The singer Adele even dedicated a concert | :51:12. | :51:13. | |
in New York's Madison Square Gardens yesterday to Brad Pitt | :51:14. | :51:16. | |
and Angelina Jolie, telling fans she was shocked when she heard | :51:17. | :51:18. | |
the news that the couple are filing for divorce. | :51:19. | :51:20. | |
Private lives should be private but I feel it is the end of an era. I'm | :51:21. | :51:27. | |
dedicating this show tonight to them... | :51:28. | :51:37. | |
And we have some breaking news to bring you on this. Madame Tussaud's | :51:38. | :51:45. | |
has tweeted about it, saying, we can confirm that we have separated Brad | :51:46. | :51:50. | |
Pitt and Angelina Jolie's figures. There you go, evidence that that has | :51:51. | :51:53. | |
been done! A short time ago, I spoke to our show is reporter in Los | :51:54. | :51:59. | |
Angeles. He has interviewed both Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie on many | :52:00. | :52:02. | |
occasions. He told me how Hollywood is reacting to the news. Just a | :52:03. | :52:06. | |
warning, this does contain flash photography. This is the biggest | :52:07. | :52:10. | |
divorce of all time, and yes, I suspected there was trouble in | :52:11. | :52:15. | |
Paradise, because they are so frequently photographed that Brad | :52:16. | :52:18. | |
and Angelina had not been seen together in public since July, when | :52:19. | :52:22. | |
they took their six children for breakfast at a Hollywood restaurant. | :52:23. | :52:25. | |
And normally when they're out of the public eye so long, you do wonder if | :52:26. | :52:29. | |
something is going wrong. But when this kit, it hits like a bombshell. | :52:30. | :52:33. | |
It did, and that because of the information that has come out right | :52:34. | :52:38. | |
from the start to diverge is this going to play out in public in the | :52:39. | :52:44. | |
same sort of way? They are two beautiful people, and this is a very | :52:45. | :52:48. | |
ugly battle. Team Angelina has fired the first shots in this war and is | :52:49. | :52:53. | |
definitely winning. Take a look at any tabloid newspaper today, you | :52:54. | :52:56. | |
will see its very, very anti-Brad, who almost supporting Angelina's | :52:57. | :53:02. | |
assertion in the legal papers. She's taken a very unusual step of asking | :53:03. | :53:06. | |
for sole custody. That does not often happen in Hollywood splits. | :53:07. | :53:10. | |
Normally that's only when you can portray the father as a bad dad, to | :53:11. | :53:14. | |
say that the children are somehow in danger from before the. And Brad | :53:15. | :53:20. | |
Pitt, said by sources to be spitting mad at these allegations and ready | :53:21. | :53:24. | |
to defend himself in court. Does it have to play out in public? We saw | :53:25. | :53:27. | |
what happened with Johnny Depp and his high-profile split. We saw | :53:28. | :53:36. | |
Madonna Madonna with custody of her child. Can they keep it completely | :53:37. | :53:40. | |
quiet if they want to? They can. It is all a legal tactic. Angelina has | :53:41. | :53:46. | |
hired probably the number one celebrity divorce lawyer in | :53:47. | :53:49. | |
Hollywood at the moment. You mentioned Johnny Depp. She was also | :53:50. | :53:52. | |
a representative in that case. And in that case, we had so many lurid | :53:53. | :53:58. | |
details of the start, and then there was a very quick settlement and it | :53:59. | :54:03. | |
all went away. So perhaps this is a tactic, and they are playing from | :54:04. | :54:06. | |
the same playbook. So effectively it becomes a PR war? It does. It's one | :54:07. | :54:11. | |
that Brad Pitt is losing. He did issue a statement which was pretty | :54:12. | :54:16. | |
neutral, saying that it's obviously a very sad time, and asking for | :54:17. | :54:22. | |
privacy. He must secretly be thinking, what the hell is going on? | :54:23. | :54:27. | |
You've met them both - tell us what you think about them, having | :54:28. | :54:30. | |
interviewed them over the years? I have interviewed them both, I love | :54:31. | :54:35. | |
them both. I'm very much on Team Angelina, as you see from the | :54:36. | :54:39. | |
pictures behind me. She's great. When you meet her, she's got a | :54:40. | :54:42. | |
fantastic sense of humour. Brad Pitt also very good company. Really a | :54:43. | :54:47. | |
shame that they couldn't make it work. They really couldn't. This is | :54:48. | :54:53. | |
obviously about the vision of the children, but it's also about the | :54:54. | :54:59. | |
assets. They are the richest couple in showbiz history, worth $400 | :55:00. | :55:03. | |
million between them. He's worth slightly more than her because of | :55:04. | :55:09. | |
his production company, and also his producing free as well as acting | :55:10. | :55:13. | |
fee. They've got many houses across the world, including west London and | :55:14. | :55:19. | |
the chateau in France. That comes with a winery - I'll have that if | :55:20. | :55:24. | |
they don't need it! But Angelina, whenever I've interviewed her, she | :55:25. | :55:26. | |
has always mentioned the children within the first 60 seconds. And | :55:27. | :55:30. | |
certainly if you take a look away from the newspapers and into the | :55:31. | :55:35. | |
legal papers, she's made this all about the welfare of the kids. | :55:36. | :55:39. | |
Hollywood is a small town - how are people seeing it? They are seeing it | :55:40. | :55:45. | |
as yet another showbiz statistic. But so few Hollywood marriages work | :55:46. | :55:50. | |
out. But yet they had been together for 12 years. That's like 50 in | :55:51. | :55:56. | |
human terms. A-lister is can never usually make it work. I have a | :55:57. | :56:01. | |
theory on that - it's because they are so indulged and surrounded by | :56:02. | :56:03. | |
people who tell them there so fantastic that they cannot | :56:04. | :56:06. | |
compromise in relationships like the rest of us do. A-listers would never | :56:07. | :56:10. | |
say I'm wrong when they think they are right. And usually the first | :56:11. | :56:15. | |
sign of an argument, they are of two the divorce courts. As a showbiz | :56:16. | :56:20. | |
reporter, I would love a statement coming from Jennifer Aniston saying, | :56:21. | :56:23. | |
I told you so! But so far she has taken the high ground and maintained | :56:24. | :56:28. | |
a dignified silence. But a lot of people are taking the opportunity to | :56:29. | :56:31. | |
put some means out there? They certainly are. People speculating | :56:32. | :56:37. | |
that somewhere, Jennifer Aniston and Courteney Cox are sharing a | :56:38. | :56:40. | |
margarita today and laughing about all of this just Jennifer Aniston's | :56:41. | :56:48. | |
reputation in the public eye was that Brad had moved on from her two | :56:49. | :56:52. | |
Angelina. Of course they played a couple in Mr And Mrs Smith, and | :56:53. | :56:57. | |
their romantic mystery on screen was duplicated off-screen. It would be | :56:58. | :57:07. | |
interesting to see what her opinion is of all of this. Can you get her | :57:08. | :57:12. | |
on the show? I'd love to. Any of the three of them, we'd take them! That | :57:13. | :57:21. | |
spring you a few more of your comments on restraint in mental | :57:22. | :57:27. | |
health units. No-one is saying restraint is not appropriate to stop | :57:28. | :57:31. | |
violence, but we're talking about inappropriate use in non-violent | :57:32. | :57:34. | |
cases where the patient has posed no risk. Prone restraint is unsafe. | :57:35. | :57:39. | |
Nursing staff defending these practices should be ashamed of | :57:40. | :57:42. | |
themselves. It is nothing to do with nursing. This one - some of the | :57:43. | :57:46. | |
things I have seen and endured at the hands of mental health staff can | :57:47. | :57:51. | |
only be described as horrific. Anonymous text - I myself nearly had | :57:52. | :57:57. | |
my arms broken when being restrained for not going to bed. Some of them | :57:58. | :58:01. | |
are purely bullies and once in their care, aspect goes out of the window. | :58:02. | :58:06. | |
Michael Owen Facebook - as a professional, I have seen | :58:07. | :58:09. | |
unnecessary restraint many times. I am appalled at the lack of training | :58:10. | :58:15. | |
and bad management. -- Michael on Facebook. | :58:16. | :58:17. | |
50 years ago, they became superstars in astronomy, | :58:18. | :58:34. | |
They represent the most productive period astronomy has ever had. | :58:35. | :58:40. | |
And now, they're taking an anniversary trip. | :58:41. | :58:44. |