26/10/2016 Victoria Derbyshire

Hello it's Wednesday, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

There needs to be a radical overhaul of how we treat

young adult criminals because of the way their brains

are developing says an influential group of MPs.

Prison for me at the age of 18 was really hard, the separation from my

family, my parents, it was hard to understand, now I'm wasting my life

sitting in a cell when I could have been studying, trying to get a job

and do things that are positive to my life but clearly, because of the

choice that I made, now I'm sitting in a cell. We'll hear from people on

both sides of the debate and we want to hear from you too. Get in touch

in the usual ways. You can e-mail, tweet or text.

Clive James talks to us about his illness and predicting the future.

He has had leukaemia for six years. I expected to be gone by now but

there is no point in making predictions. The big decision you

have to make is whether you will go on and try to do what you think you

are good at or whether you just lie down.

And after 10 this morning, mums and dads of autistic children

can be trained in communication to reduce the severity

of their child's disorder new research shows.

Hello and welcome to the programme, we're live until 11 this morning.

Later we'll talk about footballs fans' attitudes to gay players.

In a 5 Live poll the vast majority of fans say they would be

comfortable with their club signing a gay player.

But 8% say they wouldn't watch their team if it

As always we want to hear what you think.

Vodafone is being fined ?4.6 million for failing customers in the UK.

The communications regulator OFCOM found "serious and sustained

breaches of consumer protection rules" by the company.

Vodafone has admitted the breaches and apologised.

Our correspondent Andrew Walker is here.

What have they done wrong? The official failure was the result of a

complicated IT process whereby they changed the billing systems. As a

result of that, more than 10,000 customers using pay-as-you-go

systems paid money to reactivate phones that had been dormant for

nine months or more and thought they would be able to make calls, send

texts but they couldn't. The billing system failed to credit them. On top

of that, the regulator says that Vodafone failed to take effective

and vigorous action quickly enough to deal with the complaints when

they came in. In total, there are more than ten thousand customers

affected. Vodafone paid an average of ?14 but there are some customers

they couldn't track down and they say they don't want to profit as a

result of that, so they've made a donation of ?100,000 to donation.

This sounds like a big fine, is it? It's certainly intended to send a

message to the whole industry that Ofcom is taking all this seriously

and that they really do need to be serious about dealing with their

customers and responding quickly to their complaints. It's not that big

in that sense though. Thank you very much.

And we'll be speaking to OFCOM later in the hour.

Julian is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary

There's a call for sweeping changes to the way the criminal justice

system deals with offenders aged between 18 and 25 -

because of the way their brains mature.

MPs on the Justice Committee say they offend the most,

but have the greatest potential to stop offending -

at a time when their brains are still developing.

The government says efforts have been made to divert young people

from custody and it recognises the challenges with this age group.

However, the Commons report says there's been a "lack of action"

And Victoria will be discussing this story in the next few minutes.

Treating children with autism from the age of two can

significantly reduce the severity of their symptoms - and keep up that

improvement over six years - a ground-breaking study has found.

The research is the first to identify that early intervention

It's been carried out by King's College London

and the universities of Manchester and Newcastle.

Our Health Correspondent Robert Pigott reports.

Aaron Sawyer-Coppers loves football, drums and Lego and is among the 1%

As a four-year-old, he was withdrawn and unresponsive,

but researchers spent a year teaching his mother Tracey how

to read what efforts he did make to communicate.

She reviewed video of their encounters and learned how

It became where Aaron was actually leading the play

And then he would look at me, to see if I was doing what he was doing.

Very little facial gestures, but more than...

And it was lovely, just to see he could actually play

with toys rather than just banging them together.

He did what they were supposed to do.

At the end of the training, 15% fewer of the children whose

parents participated displayed autistic symptoms classified

as severe, compared with children given standard treatment.

After six years, 17% fewer could be classified as severely disabled,

This was a modest intensity time-limited to 12 months

Having enduring effects over six years and who knows,

but possibly effects that would last and continue for longer

through adolescence into adulthood would be quite a remarkable thing.

The long-term benefits included core elements of autism, which have been

regarded as highly resistant to change such as improvements

in social communication and reduction in repetitive behaviours.

The parent-focused treatment is not a cure for autism but experts say

the sustained benefit to children is remarkable and encouraging.

The transport secretary, Chris Grayling, will make the case

for Heathrow's expansion - during a visit to the north

The government believes increasing capacity at the London airport

Two cabinet ministers have publicly criticised the plan,

and Zac Goldsmith has quit as a Tory MP, triggering a by-election.

The Transport Secretary insists everyone will benefit. Everyone

benefits from us doing this, albeit it's difficult for people that live

close by. Fill look at the difference this will make, creating

opportunities around the world. This is the right thing for the whole

country. If we want to fund the National Health Service in the

future, if we want to do the right thing by our pensioners, we have to

be a nation that creates wealth and opportunity for everyone and works

for everyone in it. Apple has reported its first drop

in annual revenue since 2001 with sales down 8% in the year

to the end of September compared The company says the figures don't

take into account the impact Apple is predicting that it

will return to growth over Charities have criticised

the decision to start demolishing the migrant camp in Calais,

while there are still children Save the Children and Unicef have

called the situation "unacceptable". It's estimated over 4,000 refugees

have been through the processing centres.

A survey for the BBC suggests that a big majority of football fans

would feel comfortable if the clubs they support were to sign a gay

player.Less than ten per cent said they would withdraw their support.

Younger fans appeared more hostile than older people to the idea.

More than half of those taking part said they had witnessed homophobic

abuse from the stands during games played in England,

Justin Timberlake has avoided a possible criminal investigation

after he took a selfie while voting in the US presidential election.

The American pop star posted a photograph on Instagram

showing him casting a ballot in Memphis, Tennessee,

with a message encouraging people to vote ahead

He's already a "House"-hold name in the States but now Hugh Laurie

has cemented his place among Hollywood's elite with his own star

The British actor was presented with the honour

in Los Angeles yesterday where he described himself

He's known to millions of Americans for his role

in medical drama House - for which he received

That's a summary of the latest BBC News, more at 9.30.

Should young adult offenders, people who commit crimes

between the ages of 18 to 25, not be treated as adults

An influential group of MPs think so - we will be finding out why.

Do get in touch with us throughout the morning - use the hashtag

Victoria LIVE and If you text, you will be charged at the standard

Particularly interesting to hear from you if you've offended between

the age of 18-25. Jess you've got more details

on the survey of sports fans More than 4,000 people took part in

the online poll across 11 sports and 82% said they wouldn't have an issue

with it. The most high-profile male footballer is former Aston Villa

player Thomas Hitzlsperger a couple of years ago. He said at the time

being a gay player isn't a big deal in the dressing room but he did wait

until he'd retired before revealing his sexuality. It was often debated

whether a current male footballer would come out in England, the first

and only was Justin Fashanu in 1990 but his career suffered for it and

he took his own life for it. The women's game is a lot more tolerant

on the issue of sexuality and former England captain Casey Stoney came

out and received a lot of support. In Rugby League Keegan Hurst is an

openly outplayer, playing for Wakefield now. When he came out

whilst playing for his old club he said he received lots of support

too. It seems to be a mixed picture across the different sports,

interesting to hear more about the topic when you delve into it later

in the programme. Liverpool are keeping

up their good run of form - Daniel Sturridge scored both goals

and could have had a few more actually. Liverpool are through to

the quarter-finals of the EFL cup, they extend their unbeaten run to

ten games. Not bad is it? ! In the pick of tonight's cup games, it's a

Manchester Derby with United taking on City at Old Trafford.

And Bradley Wiggins is taking part in his last event

Cycling commuters will like this one. Have you ever had to slow down

for a traffic light but didn't want to stop so tried to balance without

putting your feet on the ground. That's what these cyclists were

doing alongside Sir Bradley. He's cycled off already, he's not that

good at it. It's known as the longest lap, it took place in London

yesterday. It's known as track standing, there you are! Thank you

very much talk to you later. Someone who commits a crime

between the ages of 18 and 25 should not be treated as an adult

by the criminal justice system because their brains

are still developing, The Justice Committee says that

because young people's brains are still changing, they can be more

likely to commit a crime, and need to be treated differently

from other offenders. This is crucial - they say -

if they're to be stopped We'll be discussing these

recommendations in a moment - but first last year,

while the justice committee was holding its inquiry,

we explored this issue and me a young adult

offender called Mario. I turned 18 and literally

it was a couple of weeks I was having a drink, I threw

a plastic bottle out the window, I hit someone's car,

I looked out the window and I realised

the man was just swearing. word of English but I

understood he was upset. I was under the influence of alcohol

so I went to the kitchen, He was trying to call the police

so I smashed the window, smashed his phone, I tried to stab

him a few times when he was sitting I don't really remember

how I did it, but I just know that he suffered

an injury in his shoulder. I was given a custodial

sentence of four years. Prison, for me, the age

of 18 was really hard. The separation from my

family, my parents. It was hard to understand that now

I'm wasting my life in here, sitting in a cell,

when I could be studying, trying to Trying to do things that

are positive to my life, but clearly, because of the choice

I made, now I'm sitting in a cell. Young adults are treated much like

adult offenders, but the evidence Recent research has

found that they are More challenging to manage

and crucially, more likely to I went back to prison for the simple

reasons that there was I wanted to get a house,

wanted to get a job, wanted to get an apprenticeship,

I wanted to do something positive. But the reality is that

there was nothing there. On top of it, now you've got

a criminal record, if you thing they will look at,

"Do you have a criminal record?" "OK, let me give it to somebody else

who has those things." People made that assumption that,

because I'm now older, I should know And the reality is that I wasn't

aware of what I was doing I needed support in

the sense of, show me what is right, what's wrong, maybe

not necessarily what is right and what's wrong, but how do I overcome

the wrong to turn into a right So let's talk to Bob Neil,

who's chair of Parliament's Justice committee, Max Rutherford,

from the research organisation The Barrow Cadbury Trust -

he gave evidence to this committee. And Stanley Cave, who was given

a suspended sentence when he was 22. Also, we have Sullman Amad

who was sent to prison And we can hear from Steve Gillan

from the Prison Welcome all of you, thank you

becoming the programme. Bob Neill, what you believe should change as a

result of your in Querrey? We have followed very clear medical and

scientific evidence that young people in this category of the 25

need a distinct approach when they are being dealt with in the justice

system. Therefore we need to update the legislation to reflect that so

you can deal with them in a way that does pick up on the points that we

have just heard, that there is less self-control, less awareness of the

harm you do to others, less ability of you like to motivate yourself.

This suggests that first of all there should be a guideline to make

sure when people are charged and when courts are sentencing there is

a check on their maturity and that is taken into account. It varies

from person to person. How do you check on somebody's the Judy? You

can do it through various reports. If the offence is so seriously

someone to go into custody then we should have a system where there is

proper screening to make sure they are not vulnerable in some ways,

unless there is very clear evidence that there is greater risk of not

only learning and educational problems, social problems but also

neurological issues that often have not been picked up. That is why

sometimes we have seen vulnerable young people in the system. There is

not a means for officers to recognise that any get self harming

and suicides in prison. Would be screaming pickup on any neurological

conditions? It should be able to because the evidence from the

medical people, this is the key thing, not talking about academics

or politicians, it is clear medical evidence, you can do this and they

do it in other countries, they do it in the Netherlands. Do they have a

lower reoffending rate? Significantly less. We have one of

the worst reoffending rates in that age group and it is worth saying,

Victoria, not only is it worse by comparison, it is worse in any other

part of the prison population. 75% of young offenders in that bracket

reoffend within two years of release. Generally the evidence

shows that people are going to turn their lives around they do so about

25. That is why they say in the young offenders regime at the moment

only applies up to 20 should be extended up to 25, so the

institution they are in concentrates much more on turning around those

like problems they have got. Many Ah Van rubble themselves. Much more

rehabilitation, much more on training, much more on follow-up

post release. What do you think, Max Rutherford? We have worked on this

agenda for ten years through our transition to add offered programme.

We have found three main findings, the first nylon becomes a fully

mature adult on the moment of their 18th birthday. It is a process, not

an event, that transition to adult hood. What we would say is for the

criminal justice system that means that if you take a distinct approach

to this age group, you end up with fewer victims of crime, which is the

most important thing. You cut reoffending, you end up with young

people much more likely to grow out of crime and as a consequence of

both of those things, you save the public a lot of money. Stanlake,

thank you becoming, you were behind paying your rents are you sold some

cannabis to make some cash and you were arrested. That was your

punishment? I got put into a suspended sentence, which I ended up

provoking later on. It got me for weeks in custody. But you find as

well? Yes, about ?120 and I had to do 100 hours of service. Could you

afford the fine? Not at that time, no. The punishment you have just

ascribed, community service and a fine sounds sort of fair enough,

would you say? Yes at the time it was fair enough. But I thought the

whole approach was overcome you have committed a crime, there was no

reason, they didn't ask the story behind why I was in trouble or

anything. It was just you have done a crime, this is the punishment,

that was it. Were you expecting some kind of interest in your back story?

I have never had that approach, they were oblivious to me, it was as

nobody really cares. I have never had that experience. But you are 22,

a grown man, so do you need some adults to show that they care? Not

necessarily, it wasn't necessarily that I needed someone, but it was

just the way that I felt I was treated through the system. There

was OK, you have done this, this is your punishment, that is how you

take it. What do you think of some of the recommendations from Mister

Neil's committee? I think they are very good ideas, because, like you

say, the rate of going back into prison is 80%, going back in. What

would be different then if your recommendations were in place, what

would have been different in Stanley Cave's situation? First of all the

CPS would have needed to have considered what the appropriate

charges were, and the magistrates court would have had to look a lot

more at the background and the sentence. Thirdly, if there had been

a period in custody, and fourthly in that recommendation, you look again

at the criminal records issue. It can be a problem, particularly with

something like a suspended sentence, whereas even though someone is

trying to turn their lives around and did it when they were quite

young, they are not hard and colonels in other words, still on

the record when they're trying to get a job. Is 22 quite young? When

you are in your late 20s and 30s a new outline for a job, that is still

a new record. Let's bring in Steve Gillon, what you make of these kind

of recommendations? I have a great deal of respect for the just select

committee but I think they have got this one totally wrong to suggest

anyone over the age of 25 who is not an adult and is not capable of

making choices in their lives for me is totally wrong. What I believe is

we are forgetting about the victims of crime. They are the ones

important in the first. I think we have become a society that make

excuses for people 's behaviour. This sort of scientific staff has

been about for quite some time now. But I think we need to address the

root causes of crime. I think it is wrong. So far as I understand it,

having been a journalist for a number of years, nothing has really

cut the reoffending rates particularly of this age group,

would it not be worth a try? We have always said we are compassionate

about mental health issues and so forth and people should be diverted

away from prison. But the harsh reality is and I keep saying it

everytime I come on TV, we haven't got enough resources. Where is the

money coming for this? Where is the additional prison is coming for

this? That is a fair point but just put that to one side, do you

acknowledge that nothing else seems to have worked, in terms of cutting

the reoffending rates of 18 to 25-year-olds, and therefore this

might be worth a go? I do accept it is a problem, but for a Justice

select committee to say that 25-year-olds are still young adults,

I think it is derogatory to mainstream 18 to 25-year-olds. How

do you respond to that, Bob Neill? I think he has not read the report

properly, we are saying they are a distinct group. Of course they are

adults and we're not saying they don't need to be punished, but

precisely because we want to see fewer crimes, we are saying that

rather blunt instrument approach we have at the moment is the wrong one.

Therefore we should have a much more subtle system, and if it works in

Germany, if the Netherlands and Scandinavia are able to work well

within that system and it helps them do their jobs better, than I would

have thought it is something everyone in the criminal justice

system ought to be supporting. Fewer reoffending, fewer victims. Tell us

what happened to you aged 18, and how what you have heard this morning

would have changed things potentially? I committed a crime at

the age of 17, by the time I was tried and taken to court was 18

years old and treated as an adult. It was my first ever offensive at

the time I didn't feel as though custody would have been the

appropriate for myself. So I was eventually given a two-year

custodial sentence. What was the offence? It was a drug offence, so

it was a serious offence and I knew the consequences would be prison,

but at the time, being my first offence, I would have thought they

could have been other things in place if it did exist to support me

better. Working with many young people, I see the transition a lot

of young people have. Youth offending is really intensive and

really supportive. The minute you turn 18 and you are put into adult

probation, it is very different and the responsibility is down to

yourself. For a lot of young people and with them reoffending, they

can't cope without the intensive supervision they were getting, and a

lot of the time that youth worker is the person who believed in them and

was their glimmer of hope that the David Hearn 18, they pass into adult

probation and treated as an adult. It was a two-year prison sentence,

you came out after serving half. Have you reoffended? Know I haven't.

So did present work? No, not at all, not for me. Luckily I had a really

supportive family and home life. A lot of people in Casty don't have

that. For me, I was lucky with the fact that I had a family and people

with supporting me. A lot of young people don't have that so they will

go on to reoffend because they don't have the support that I had. Bob

Neill, interesting from Stanley and from Sullivan, if I ask an

18-year-old boy 22-year-old should they have been punished in the way

they were the crime they committed they will say no, aren't they? Yes,

but you have to be a little bit more thoughtful than purely that

reaction. In some cases, punishment has to be the answer but it is the

type of punishment. I think Sullman was making the point there is a

sudden cut-off point when you leave the young offenders into the adult

system, or the follow-up goes and he is absolutely right. Very high

percentages of the young offenders will have been in care, don't have

the support of a family background and it is therefore not the

follow-through. That is what we are saying has to be part of the system

that is why it is important to achieve the reduction in

reoffending. Also the work you do within prisons. There is an argument

we need more resources in the prison system. I don't disagree. That is

why these youngsters should not be in the adult prison system, they

should be in those areas where there is a lot more rehabilitation, trying

to get them back into jobs. What we are proposing, how they are treated

within custody or looking at the weekend is to make sure the

follow-up way we deal with the criminal records doesn't stop them

getting back into work. Stanlake we heard saying it was crucial for him

in turning his life around that he had a very supportive close family,

what about you? It was very important for me. My family are

supported but I come from a single parent homes of it is kind of hard.

I am one of six. It is kind of hard for my mother to phone in time to be

working in to look after all of her children so it is hard. It is not

how 18 to 25-year-olds should be punished, it is what is causing it.

Sometimes there may not be an explanation, just that a 19-year-old

made a bad choice that day. Then that person should be punished for

that decision but others who led up to something, for me, I wanted to

pay my rent arrears, that was it. Why didn't you get a part-time job?

I had already been to custody so it is hard for me. I applied for jobs,

I got turned down, struggling at uni and working. I know a lot of people

that do it and it is very hard. But at least it is legal. Yes, true.

The point there is that there is a bit of vicious circle. You get led

back into the same way of reoffending. We need a cleverer

approach to get them out of the vicious circle. Quick final thought?

This is a landmark report today. The detail is really important. It's not

about leniency, it's about making targeted interventions that

recognise the distinct nature of the age group. To give you two brief

examples. One would be the court process would be quicker, to suit

victims, because they want to be dealt with quickly. It would suit

young people because they have a shorter time between the offence and

the consequence of the offence to make the connection clearly. We are

worried about the Government's haphazard policy of mixing young

adults with older adults which is creating universities of crime

rather than a distinct institution to target this age group. Thank you

very much all of you, we appreciate your time. Thank you for being so

open as well. We had this statement from the

Ministry of Justice: Six years after being diagnosed

with terminal leukaemia, writer and broadcaster Clive James

talks to us about dealing with his And a campaign to ensure the under

30s aren't left behind when it comes We've brought together some of those

involved and will be finding out Here's Julian in the BBC Newsroom

with a summary of today's news. Vodafone is being fined ?4.6 million

pounds for failing The communications regulator Ofcom

found "serious and sustained breaches of consumer protection

rules" by the company. Vodafone has admitted

the breaches and apologised. There's a call for sweeping changes

to the way the criminal justice system deals with offenders

aged between 18 and 25 because of the way

their brains mature. MPs on the Justice Committee say

they offend the most, but have the greatest

potential to stop offending - at a time when their brains

are still developing. The government says efforts have

been made to divert young people from custody and it recognises

the challenges with this age group. However, the Commons report says

there's been a "lack Treating children with autism

from two can significantly reduce the severity of their symptoms

and sustain the improvement over six years, according to ground-breaking

research The study published years, according to

ground-breaking research. in the Lancet, is the first

to identify a long-term effect on the condition

after an early intervention. In the trial, parents took

on the role of therapists, leading daily sessions

of communication and The President of the European

Parliament has referred an altercation between two Ukip MEPs

to the French authorities. The party's former migration

spokesman Steven Woolfe was treated in hospital for several days

earlier this month - following an incident with another

MEP Mike Hookem. A report by the European

parliament says the version of events given by both

men "diverged substantially". The parliament's president

Martin Schulz says French authorities will now investigate -

and decide if any sanctions should The most high profile male

footballer to come out as gay is former Aston Villa player Thomas

Hitzlsperger but not until he retired. Liverpool are through to

the next round after a win over Tottenham. Sturridge scored both

goals, wins too for Hull and Newcastle. The feather weight boxing

fight will take place in Las Vegas on 28th January. Frampton beat Santa

Cruz in July and they'll go head-to-head again.

Bradley Wiggins was give an friendly reception at the Olympic velodrome

on his final track appearance on home soil before retirement.

And before I go, one rugby line for you, England have recalled Tom Wood

for up the and coming autumn internationals. He has 42 caps but

is yet to feature under the head coach Eddie Jones.

Let's get more now on the fine Ofcom has imposed on Vodafone

more than ?4.5 million, a record amount for breaching

Vodafone has admitted the breaches and apologised.

Lindsey Fussell is the Consumer Group Director for Ofcom

What did they do to merit this fine? A number of things went wrong with

Vodafone. They charged thousands of customers for services they didn't

receive for money they put on their phones and for which they didn't

receive credit. They gave customers inaccurate bills and the complaints

handling processes weren't up to scratch. That's why there's been

this fine today. How did you find out what was going on, where did the

tip-off come from? We noted that we were receiving a number of

complaints about Vodafone's billing processes because they were in the

process of migrating to a new IT system. That's when we started to

investigate. Are Vodafone a one-off or are other

Telecoms firms potentially breaching your rules, do you think? We want to

be very clear today that we see the size of this fine, forgot just as a

message to Vodafone but to all companies across the industry that

every one of the customers expects and demands good quality service and

that's what the companies need to deliver. Where they break the rules,

we won't hesitate to act and impose further long fines when warranted.

Vote fiend have reimbursed most of their customers, there are about 30

they can't track down. What was the issue with the handling of

complaints? I think we all know, as users of mobiles ourselves, how

frustrating it can be when trying to get through to a company when

there's a problem and they don't deal with the problem adequately. In

this case Vodafone weren't recognising complaints were

complaints, so they weren't treating them properly and they weren't

escalating them. After eight weeks, customers have the right to go to an

independent arbitration service but Vodafone weren't escalating

complaints so Kist mayors weren't always made aware of that. Thank you

very much. When I was growing up, Clive James

was a huge star of television, bringing to us documentaries on what

seemed like exotic places and TV programmes featuring daft reality

shows from Japan, I seem to remember. He's also a prolific

writer and continues to write despite being diagnosed with

terminal leukaemia six years ago. He started to say his goodbyes, but

he's still here, thank goodness. I went to see him at his home in

Cambridge and he was in pretty good spirits. Hello, how are you? It's a

long answer but good. I'm still here. It was New Year's Eve between

20110 and 2011 and the predictions, projections wasn't too hot. I was

told to practise saying goodbye. The Queen's farewell, you know. But it

didn't work out that way. You did in 2014 say that you were

saying goodbyes. I said it too often. I should have shut up. I more

or less promised to go that winter because I was in bad shape that year

but then it turned out that I wasn't due to go. The thing to do is not to

make predictions, especially not with medical science with what it

is, it's galloping forward all the time. My chief condition, which is a

version of leukaemia called CLL, I don't quite know what that stands

for, Clive's lousy lieu keep ya maybe, but it's meant to be fatal

but can take its time -- Clive's lousy leukaemia. There is a drug

with a wonderful name, Ibrutaniv. It sounds very strong but that's what

is keeping you living? Yes. Sounds like Arnold Schwarzenegger in his

prime but it's keeping me going! There are other things wrong too,

but nothing quite as wrong oz that too. Could be worse. I expected to

be gone by now but I've learned to live and there's no point making

predictions. The biggest decision is whether to go on doing what you are

good at or just lie down. I'm also very good at lying down, there's

never anyone more lazar than me, I could hit the couch and stay there

but I don't want to, saying things is what I do. Are you in pain

though? You see, there's the factor I've been leaving out of this

conversation. No, I'm lucky. Things would be very different if I were in

pain. If I was even uncomfortable, I wouldn't be able to concentrate and

do all the writing and reading and viewing. That would be very

different. So I've been lucky. I counted the whole thing as a stroke

of luck. I've had a reasonably long life. I probably deserved to get

caught. Someone that smoked like I did should have something wrong with

him. So I don't complain. If it hurt, I would probably complain. I'm

not sure how brave I would be. In terms of your career, how do you

describe yourself? I'm at the peak of my career, no question of it, I'm

a better writer now than I ever was. And here is the secret, I've got

more to write about, I can write about life now. When the end is in

sight you get a perspective on life you never had before. I was dumb,

energetic and moving forward at the high speed of a thrown shoe. I

wasn't reflective. I'm much more reflective now. What do you reflect

on? Everything. What I did wrong as well as what I did right. I would be

entrepreneur day shuts inviting you to ask me all the things I did

wrong. There is a long list - trepidatious. I would give you a bad

time. Some examples? Well, I was not a faithful husband. I should have

been but I wasn't. I've apologised for it to the person who matters.

But... I can't be proud of myself on that score. I try and be proud of

the fact that I'm still married to the only person I ever did marry. I

would like that to count for something. Has she forgiven you?

Forgiveness is a big deal. But if I'm alive then I've been forgiven.

We are surrounded by many books that you have written, including this

which features your dear friend Pete Atkin with whom you have had a

song-writing partnership for decades. Yes. You say this is the

work that is closest to your heart but the work that is least known

about? We have really suffered as a song-writing duo, suffered from I

would say a lack of attention. Some would say lack of success. Let's

change that now. I'm very proud of what we've done. It hasn't really

been very well known and it's rather ironic that it might start altering

from my angle at the very moment when I depart the earth. What is it

you might enjoy about song writing compared to say writing poetry?

Song-writing or lyric writing is writing poetly but it's in a much

more compressed form -- poetry. It's simpler in the grammar but sometimes

more complicated in the imagination. I enjoy everything about it. I've

always wanted to do it. I still do. But it's a tough business. What's

fascinating about this aspect, what's happening now, is that we are

getting back into business on such a scale where all the records may come

out again, I don't know, I have a feeling they might. If you want to

hear Pete singing the songs, you can do it on YouTube. YouTube is

changing everything. You can just dial them up. Song like Beware Of

the Beautiful Stranger. It's the most beautiful song.

# Get away from the beautiful stranger... #

This is wonderful and it's all going to happen Starting tomorrow. And

what am I doing? Falling off the twig, as we saw in Australia,

perhaps not quite yet. Do you love television as much as you did? proof

Very, very impatient to get home and read a book.

I gave TV everything I had, but I was well aware that

I was burning up time that I would never get back.

And when the day came when I really couldn't drag myself

to the office any more, I said, I will try to use this

But it's quite hard to control your career.

This year, you can vote for your man or woman of the year

during the programme and there is a thrilling

At the end of the evening, all these millions of pounds

are accumulated into a sum of six figures.

Then we guarantee that after our expenses have been deducted,

one of those pounds will be given to charity.

And the other will be returned to the lucky winner.

So, why don't you love TV as much as you did?

The thought of having to spend a couple of days making a TV

When I was doing it, when I was all over the world,

making TV programmes for years, the only way I maintained my sanity

was to use my downtime, waiting in the car, the downtime.

I learned to use that time to read a book or even write one.

It paid quite well and it makes you very popular.

Welcome, once again, to the BBC's first deregulated,

lead-free, self-financing, fully-sponsored TV programme.

For your protection, the entire show has been

One of the reasons I still draw attention now at the age of 106,

all right, 116, is that people remember some shows I did.

I grew up watching you on television.

Those eager local Egyptian collaborators were focusing

their magnifying glasses, so to give the nipples

of the upside-down contestants the full benefit of the desert sun.

Your Clive James On Television programme really introduced

us to utterly bizarre game show type...

Was that the start of the reality TV programme?

I ruined an entire television culture.

Hungry catfish wait in the river for the contestants

Those who drown are not allowed to go forward to the next stage.

When I saw the first footage of Japanese game shows I should

Within a couple of years, everybody was doing it.

If anything, it became over spectacular.

Tell me how you would like to be remembered.

First of all, let's face reality here.

First of all, one might not be remembered at all.

Nothing vanishes more quickly than a media career.

And if I am, it's because I wrote things.

And I hope some of my poems will be remembered.

No way of checking up on it of course, I'll be gone.

But I certainly write my poems as if they might be remembered.

What would you like people to say about you?

I wouldn't like them to say that there was a man

I would like them to say there was a man who learned

in the James and the surely songs of the James and the Vatican is now.

Coming up, giving mums and dads the skills to become super parents can

dramatically improve their child's daughters, according to new

research. We will be looking into what the report means after ten. If

you have a child who is autistic, get in touch with your own thoughts.

The Brexit vote in June was seismic - not least younger voters

who cast their ballots overwhelmingly to stay in the EU.

That's out of the ones who voted, which was said to be around two

There's now a campaign to make sure that generation,

with so much at stake, has a say in shaping

It's called UnDivided, and it brings together Remain

and Leave supporters from across the country.

Let's introduce you to Joe Porter who was 20, a conservative, one of

the youngest councillors in that country in fact. He voted on -- he

worked on about Leave campaign in Staffordshire moorlands. Charlotte

Gerarda who is 26, a campaigner at 38 degrees who voted remain. And

Hafsa Dabiri, a TV and radio presenter, she is 17 so could not

vote. Charlotte Kariba to tell us what 38 degrees is about. It is a

campaign group. From your age group, what is a big deal for you when it

comes to our pie minister going to renegotiate our exit from the

European Union? Would like is to ensure the prime minister gets the

best possible Brexit deal for young people across the country. Which is

what? That is a massive question, what does it mean? I think it means

looking into different areas and the only way we can do that is by

listening to demand. We have no idea what they will be because there are

such a range of opinions and that is what undivided is there to do.

Gather those opinions. What would be your opinion, Hafsa? I am interested

in education and travel and I want that to be the same post Brexit, but

it is not about our personal opinions, it is about making sure

young people's voices are heard. What would you say is a big deal,

what are you worried optimistic about? I think this has presented an

opportunity for young people to completely reshaped Britain. There

is a lot on the table at the moment, there is not a clear plan to Brexit,

it presents a opportunity of young people to talk about what matters

most to them and start from the beginning. What matters most to you

as a 26-year-old in Britain in 2016? I think commonly all three of us

really care about the regional divisions, and about the inequality

that exists within the country. We will lose a lot of EU funding,

especially in areas of the country that the most poorest. In places

where funding has been lost, it will be replaced. I agree with a lot of

what Charlotte has just said, which is why I live in North

Staffordshire, I grow up in Stoke Inn Trent. Part of the country like

that need more regional funding, that support from government, and

from businesses and young people. Young people need to have those

opportunities to succeed in life. That is why all three of us have

that as a priority, the fact that we are young and want the brightest

possible future. A lot of that is about education and equality of

opportunity. What has that got to do with Brexit? Because post Brexit, we

have a unique opportunity to shape our own future. Changes on the

horizon. It is very important that our generation is part of that

change because we will live with the outcome the longest. I don't want to

rerun the arguments but you voted leave, so you would have known it

was a threat to the EU funding in which goes to regions like

Staffordshire, north-east of England, in fact pretty much most

regions of the UK. And you voted to leave, knowing that would happen? I

did absolutely. And not knowing was and how replace that. That was my

personal view at the time and I believe it was the best decision

because I believed it would be in the interest of young people, but at

the end of the day all three of our I united on that message of getting

the best possible Brexit deal for young people. That is what brought

us together and makes us unique out of the campaign is out there. Once

you have crowd sourced the ideas and you get the top five of the top ten

list of ideas, how do you make sure the politicians who make the

decisions in this country take on board what you are saying? We are

going to refine the top ten which will force the youth Brexit

manifesto. We think it is a substantial significant number. We

think at that point the reason they will be very interested to find the

results of our crowd sourcing. And at that point we will take them to

the Brexit negotiating table. And hopefully we will be listened to at

that point. Hopefully. That is the big question, because everybody you

ask has a different view, if they have a view, on the specifics of

what a post Brexit Britain should look like. Ask 20 people, you get 20

different views. It is whether it will give you a particular ear for

what you want. I think through the refining of it it would make sense

in the manifesto and because we have hopefully a representative 1 million

people, a large demographic from 15, 13, sorry, to 30. There will be some

weight held on this manifesto and you can't ignore it. Excited for it.

If you had to find me some adjectives to describe how you're

feeling about your future in Britain, post this referendum, what

would you say? I am very optimistic, very passionate and very determined

to get that brighter future for our generation and generations to come.

Whilst we are shaping this, that is what our campaign is all about.

Because of the very existence of our campaign I now have hoped to the

future of our young people. Hope is the exact word I would use, because

we are now progressing to something else to take the next step to better

our futures. Thank you for your many messages about the interview with

Clive James. Stuart tweets so good to see Clive James, love his writing

and humour. Jane says always interesting and enjoyable to listen

to. This one says Clive James is in the same racket as Alan Wicker,

brilliant on TV, great writing and poetry. This tweet from Victoria,

just watching Clive James on your program, love the fact that when

making TV programmes he would read a book for sanity. Robert said Clive

James just inspired me to get off the sofa. On Facebook, Elizabeth, a

very clever and funny man, I wish the BBC would repeat his old shows.

Helen on Facebook also saying that. Clive is a great guy, good luck

Clive, you have given us great dealings over the years. Thank you.

Thank you for your messages on the Justice committee, group of MPs

suggesting that young offenders should be treated in a distinct way

between 18 to 25 to make sure they don't reoffend. Angela says 22 is

young. Often it is down to bad parenting, and make it tougher in

young offenders institutions, says Raymond, and they may think twice

about going back. Thank you for those of you want to get back, you

are very welcome. You can e-mail, tweet, the usual community has to do

it. Coming up after ten o'clock, Vodafone has been fined ?4.6 million

by OFCOM for breaking the rules on handling customer complaints. We

will bring you the details after ten o'clock. Also after ten, we will

bring you the latest news and sport in just a moment or two. We will

talk to the parents of autistic children about some pretty

groundbreaking research into how parents communicate with their

autistic children. It looks like early intervention is absolutely key

to reducing the severity of autism. Now the weather, here's Carol. It

has been quite a foggy start of the day across southern part of the UK.

That is now starting to left. The Somerset will drag. Some sunny skies

coming through but just the risk of one or two showers. Also some

showery outbreaks sinking slowly southwards. There will be further

showers coming across north-west Scotland on a blustery wind but in

between all of that some sunny skies. A couple of degrees higher

than we would expect at this stage in October. As we head onto the

evening and overnight, a week where the front, ahead of its dense patchy

fog forming. Still a brisk wind. So we have this band of rain across the

outer Hebrides first thing in the morning. It could be heavy for a

time. It will be windy so it will blow through quite quickly. The head

of its parts of England Wales and Northern Ireland, we also have the

odd shower. It will be the exception rather than the rule if you catch

one. Again, bright skies, temperatures between 12 and 16

Celsius. We could possibly hit 17. Then finally by Friday, more of the

same. We are stuck in the system which is giving things fairly

settled. Producing a little bit of rain but again temperatures above

the seasonal norm. Hello, I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

welcome to the programme. And after 10 this morning,

mums and dads of autistic children can be trained in communication

to reduce the severity of their child's disorder,

new research shows. Also today, six years

after being diagnosed with terminal leukaemia, writer and broadcaster

Clive James has been talking to us about dealing with his illness

and predicting the future. It could be worse and I expected to

be gone by now. But I've learnt to live as if there is no point making

predictions. The big decision you have to make is whether you will go

on trying to do what you think you are good at or whether you just lie

down. A ?4.6 million fine for poor

customer service and misleading customers this morning,

Vodafone has been hit with a record Vodafone has apologised,

but what does this mean for customers and can we expect

similar fines for other companies? Good Morning, here's

Julian in the BBC Newsroom Vodafone is being fined ?4.6 million

for failing customers in the UK. The communications regulator Ofcom

found "serious and sustained breaches of consumer protection

rules" by the company. Vodafone has admitted

the breaches and apologised. We want to be clear today that we

see the size of the fine as, not just a message to Vodafone, but to

all companies across the industry. Every one of the customers demand

and expect good customer service. That's what the companies need to

deliver. Where they break the rules, we won't hesitate to act and impose

larger fines when it's warranted. There's a call for sweeping changes

to the way the criminal justice system deals with offenders aged

between 18 and 25 - because of the way

their brains mature. MPs on the Justice Committee say

they offend the most, but have the greatest potential

to stop offending - at a time when their brains

are still developing. The government says efforts have

been made to divert young people from custody and it recognises

the challenges with this age group. However, the Commons report says

there's been a "lack of action" Sullman Amad was sent

to prison when he was 18. The minute you turn 18 and you are

put on to probation it's different and the responsibility is mainly

down to yourself which for a lot of young people ends up with

reoffending because they can't cope without the supervision they were

getting at the youth offending service. A lot of the time the youth

offending worker is the person that believes in them and gives them

hope. At 18, they are passed to adult probation and treated as an

adult. Treating children with autism

from two can significantly reduce the severity of their symptoms

and sustain the improvement over six years, according

to ground-breaking research. The study published in the Lancet,

is the first to identify a long-term effect on the condition

after an early intervention. In the trial, parents took

on the role of therapists, leading daily sessions of

communication and play activities. The President of the European

Parliament has referred an altercation between two Ukip MEPs

to the French authorities. The party's former migration

spokesman Steven Woolfe was treated in hospital for several days

earlier this month - following an incident with another

MEP Mike Hookem. A report by the European parliament

says the version of events given by both men "diverged

substantially". The parliament's president

Martin Schulz says French authorities will now investigate -

and decide if any sanctions should The police commissioner in Calais

says migrants have told him that fires at the so-called jungle camp

overnight were started by activists. The police, who have begun

demolishing the camp, Save the Children and Unicef say

it's unacceptable to start clearance work when there are still children

who haven't been accounted for. So far, it's estimated more

than 4,000 refugees have been The transport secretary,

Chris Grayling, is making the case for Heathrow's expansion

during a visit to Two cabinet ministers have publicly

criticised the plan, and Zac Goldsmith has quit as a Tory

MP, triggering a by-election. During a visit to Newcastle Airport

the Transport Secretary will insist the whole of the UK will benefit

from a third runway at Heathrow. That's a summary of the latest BBC

News, more at 10.30. Get in touch with us if you would

like by using the usual methods. Time now for the sport with Jess.

A survey has found that the majority of sports fans would be comfortable

with their club signing a gay player.

The online poll by Radio 5 Live, was answered by 4,000 people,

and found that 82% of them wouldn't have an issue with it.

The most high profile male footballer to come out in recent

times is former Aston Villa player Thomas Hitzlsperger.

He said his sexuality wasn't a problem in the dressing room,

but he didn't reveal it until after he'd retired.

There's only ever been one male player to come out

His career suffered for it though, and he took his own life

Daniel Sturridge adorns most of the national newspapers sports

His two goals for Liverpool took them through to the quarter finals

of the EFL Cup, in a 2-1 win over Tottenham.

All of Sturridge's goals for Liverpool have come

in the cup this season, and it took him less than 10 minutes

He doubled their lead in the second half with that goal.

And obligitory dance moves of course.

Manchester United manager Jose Mourinho says living

Mourinho has been staying in a hotel on his own and says

it's difficult to go out without being followed

His side face Manchester City tonight in the EFL Cup,

and despite United's With England rugby union's lengthy injury list,

People always expect the best. With the quality of Jose and Man United,

they're Man United - that means a lot from my experience when a play.

With England rugby union's lengthy injury list,

head coach Eddie Jones has had to call in reinforcements ahead

Northampton flanker Tom Wood returns to the side.

He already has 42 caps to his name but is yet to feature under Jones.

Also recalled is Gloucester's Jonny May.

The squad will fly to Portugal on Sunday for a training camp,

before playing Africa at Twickenham on 12th November.

England have named an unchanged squad for next month's

There's still no place for fast bowler James Anderson

who is expected to miss the first couple of tests through injury.

So Nottinghamshire's Jake Ball remains in the squad.

Four spinners, including 39-year-old Gareth Batty,

will also tour India in their spin friendly conditions.

Despite controversy surrounding his use of allergy medication,

Sir Bradley Wiggins was given a friendly reception

at the Olympic Velodrome on his final track appearance

He's competing alongside Mark Cavendish.

The duo are world champions in the madison event and currently

The six day competition is made up of several different races including

An experimental new therapy for autism, which helps parents

communicate with their children, has had record success

in reducing the severity of autism in children.

As part of a trial, parents were invited to watch videos

of themselves interacting with their children and were given

This helped to make them more aware of their child's unique and unusual

patterns of communication, so they could then respond

The researchers found that that children who had had this support

had less severe overall symptoms six years after the therapy ended.

Professor Jonathan Green from the University of Manchester

led this study; Mel Hunter who has a five-year-old son

Carrie Grant who has has two daughters with autism;

and Ssrah Lambert is head of policy at the National Autistic Society.

Welcome to all of my guests. We'll start with you, Professor Green,

tell us in more detail what you did? We know, all of us, that the

interaction between parents and whiled is a foundation for social

development in all children. It's particularly challenging for

children who have autism because their communitication to parents are

particularly difficult to understand. What we have done is we

want to equip parents with the skills to understand their own

particular child's communication and respond to it in a more fine-tuned

and appropriate way. The theory is, if the parents do that, and we don't

work directly with the children at all, just the parents, but if the

parents are able to do that, that will have a knock-on effect to the

child encouraging their communication, the amount of it and

the development of it socially. And then that will have a further

knock-on effect to their performance or interactions outside the family

setting with other people. So there's a generalisation cascade, if

you like. Can you give us an example of something that a parent has been

taught to pick up on as a result of their interactions with their child

being videoed an then therapists pointing out, look, did you see your

child do X, Y, Z? Yes, so the thing to make clear is, this is really an

experiment for the parent. We don't teach the parent as such, we put the

parent in a situation watching themselves with the child to observe

things so it's self-directed learning from the parent. Of course

helped by the therapist. It will be things like subtle shifts in the

facial expression or partial movements of the hands or a toy

which would be a show to the parent, something like this that wouldn't be

a clear communication but would have an intent of the same kind and the

parents then get used to picking that thing up for their own child,

learning how their child does this. What's different here is that a lot

of parents go through the early years perplexed by what is happening

with their child and feeling deskilled as parents themselves not

being able the use their natural ability. What we are really hoping

is that we can encourage them to reskill or get empowered, as it

were, to really understand their child and make them feel much more

confident that they have strategies that will work. What do you think,

Carrie? I think it sounds fantastic. Anything that empowers parents is a

really good thing. We are the bridges for our children, we join up

the autistic world to the typical world and we are working in both

directions. One of the things that is clear from what Jonathan's just

said, for my children, they are high-functioning so the children at

two and three would look me in the eye and talk to me, so we've got to

be, how do you read the high functioning ends because that's

easier to read when you are looking for a facial expression, you know,

maybe the subtleties in a high-functioning end are going to be

a lot more acute. So for us as parents, learning to read our

children from a young age, not just how they are speaking, but from the

body language expression, every sense of it, the sensory world,

being able to feed things back to them, you have to learn that super

quick. With the report, it's for children between the ages of two and

four, most of our kids don't get diagnosed until that age so to get

early intervention is going to be challenging. Fair point? Yes,

totally. If the diagnosis is not early enough generally in this

country although it's gradually getting earlier as people get more

skilled and experienced in the arena. One point to make is that our

study did look at children with more severe end autism and so our results

apply to those children. As Carrie says, the milder end, maybe

different kind of challenges, we can't be sure that exactly the same

tecniques would work, I suspect though that they will because it's

the same process really. What do you think? I think it's great to see the

longevity of the study and the improvements. My son is only five so

we are at the other end of things where we are still learning how to

understand his world and what he needs and who is trying to commune

-- and he is trying to communicate to us. We are taking part in a

scheme run by the National Autistic Society, trying to find a way into

the children's world. That's really helped us and how we approach things

with our son. It's helped how we play with him and it's helped us

communicate with him. Can you give us some practical examples of how

things have changed after the programme? My son Sam struggles with

his communication. He does talk but not at the same level as his peers

and he does understand though not at the same level. The course taught us

how to slow things down, to give him time to talk, to process what we

were saying, delaying asking again for maybe 15 seconds and to give him

time for our words to make sense to him, so slowing things down. Then

understanding his nonverbal language as well and what he wants. In many

ways, being led by him but also altering his behaviour slightly so

he can communicate with his peers better and things like that.

Do you feel confident now in the way you communicate with your son? Is it

an ongoing thing? It is ongoing. I think parents clearly have a key

role and when you get a diagnosis of autism it's a bombshell. How old was

he when he got the diagnosis? Just four. It's difficult. You are not

given an awful lot of support and it's like going into a dark room

feeling your way around. What works for one child won't work for another

so you are absolutely trying to understand it from your own child's

point of view. But a lot of reading around the automobile sect, doing a

course like the National Autistic Society programme was really, really

helpful. I also met other parents on the course who make your situation

less isolating, we share advice and experience, we laugh, we see the

positives and all that helps as well and helps with our journey with our

son because it's not all awful, there's an awful lot of good in it.

I am going to read a couple of messages. Text from Helen, it is

laughable, try and get your diagnosed at two. At 60 could not

speak will interact with anyone when he was six and still I was told it

was my parenting skills that would be looked at -- at the age of six.

Try not to paint a perfect picture of what is and the services

available to parents because it is just not true across-the-board. This

one says research sounds promising but it took us nearly seven years to

get the diagnosis from my eldest when he was nine. Even with that

experience, I was told my youngest was probably autistic but we don't

diagnosed before the age of five. I would love to know where kids are

getting diagnosed at the age of two. Is it happening? It is. We regularly

hear from parents having to fight and fight and fight to get their

children's needs identified and then getting through that diagnosis, some

research showed that the average waiting time the diagnosis was over

three years. So actually we're thinking these children will not get

supported at two. People having to wait for much longer than that to

get the diagnosis. There are things the government could be doing to

encourage local authorities and the NHS to do much better around this.

One of the big challenges we find is that they are not measured, and the

local NHS don't routinely collect data, so there is not the incentives

in the system to make sure that diagnosis is helping at this early

stage. Michelle goes on to say I struggle so badly with mild is

partly because I was told my son was fine and I was just a bad mum. That

is extraordinarily shocking. Do you know what, this is so, the parents

to be told this. I don't think this report is saying parents you have

not done very well, so that either parenting we are talking about could

be really helpful across all parenting. I know for my 15-year-old

when she was a baby, she never hugged me, and people said is there

a problem with the attachment, and in the end I put my hand on the

pillow, and she seemed to love talking to my hand, so I thought I

would just make a little character out of this and. Eventually she

would lavish attention and affection on my hand, chat away and eventually

we got from hand to talking face-to-face. I some how did that

naturally. Parents are amazing. Mums and dads will find ways through. I

think it is just encouraging. Don't let that stop you from putting

interventions in while you are waiting. This isn't about parents

being substandard, you are right. It is about real challenges of these

children and how parents rise to those challenges. That is one of the

most moving things, just watch ordinary parents picking up the

challenge. I don't want to idealise it, this is not a miracle cure. This

is hard work. But we have found in our research is that most parents,

and this was one of the most heartening things, most parents

across all ethnicities, every thing we have studied, the parents on the

whole picked it up. When we started, there was a lot of scepticism about

this, parents would not be able to do it. It is too complicated. A lot

of therapists say that. Only therapists can do this. Were you

would have to be a highly educated parent or whatever it is. We just

showed it is not the case. Parenting skill is a very intuitive thing as

we know. It was lovely to see across all social groups that parents could

pick this up. It is, enhancing, super parenting is often the way I

talk to my parents about, this is enhanced skills we're talking about.

I don't want to do therapists out of a job. Yes, let's! Let's use the

assets we have sitting right there. Fair enough, I get your point. Would

it be naive of me to suggest, though, Professor Green, that you

could get somebody to video you with your autistic child and watch it

back and potentially see though subtle things you might miss in the

everyday help of family life? It is an interesting one. Actually what

happens between the therapist and the parent is quite subtle. It isn't

a question of watching yourself and going from there. The therapist

scaffolding and structuring support is important to this and the

therapist's knowledge and guidance, but we are looking to see whether we

could make this a bit simpler. For instance, have some online

application or something or some sort of training parents could

access that would as it were coached them online to do this. Now this is

a new development. Religious thinking about how to do this, and

would allow how it would work but this is the sort of thing we're

thinking using modern technology. As part of the programme I did, within

the NHS, there were three occasions when we were videoed in our own

home, playing and collecting. Then it was shown back to the group.

Comments were made from how things could be improved. Obviously there

were subtleties and the course leaders were able to guide us

through that, but also talking over your child, speaking to quickly,

using very complicated instructions, it was quite easy to see key areas

where you could make a simple changes. This question from Isabel,

please ask the professor can you help using similar methods- shunning

autistic parents communicate with their children? She doesn't say

whether they are autistic or non-autistic, the children? A very

interesting question. We know autism occurs in families more often by

chance, it is a genetically determined disorder to a fairly

large degree, which means that some of the parents in our study did have

mild forms of autism themselves. So we are used that as clinicians,

working with parents who do have that condition situation, and we do

have two modify the intervention to help them with it because it is not

quite the same. So the question is not a simple to answer but what I

can say is it is possible to modify what they do. It means we can help

individuals with autism to communicate better but we have not

measured how well we can do that. A final thought from you, Sarah, on

this research and the outcomes. It seems like really promising

research. One of the concerns we have is how many therapists or

professionals there would be available to deliver it. We know on

the ground that once parents get a diagnosis, they go to try to get

additional support and it is just not there. There is a real need to

look at support the parents and children and adults on the spectrum

to make sure they can actually access the support and it can

actually help them. What do you say to a mum or dad who

may be watching now who may be feeling bewildered and confused and

not confident about trying to bring up an autistic child as well as they

could? I think it is a struggle and I think it takes a fuel year to

acclimatise yourself to it. Gathering with other parents is

really helpful, because then you realise we are going through similar

things and we all have to learn this kind of super parenting together. I

absolutely agree, that other parents can really help you through. In my

case, finding the early bird course, and I was given a leaflet about when

my son was diagnosed, that was key for me. I would urge parents to look

at something like that. It really helps. Thank you very much. If you

have your own experience, get in touch, as you have been doing.

Six years after being diagnosed with terminal leukaemia, writer and

broadcaster Clive James talks to us about dealing with his dollars and

predicting the future. Let's get more now on the fine Ofcom

has imposed on Vodafone - more than four-and-a-half millions

pounds - for breaching It is one of the highest fines ever

handed to a phone company - Vodafone has admitted

the breaches and apologised. Here's Lindsey Fussel for Ofcom,

who said this fine should be seen as a warning

by other phone companies. We want to be very clear today that

we see the size of this fine not just as a message to Vodafone but

all companies right across the industry. That every of their

customers expect and the answer really good quality customer service

and that is what these companies need to deliver. Where they break

the rules we will not hesitate to impose large fines when warranted.

Vodafone have reimbursed most of their customers, about 30 they

cannot track down. That was the issue with the handling of

complaints? We all know as users of mobile phones services ourselves how

frustrating it can be when you're trying to get to the company when

there's a problem and they don't seem to be dealing with that problem

adequately. In this case, Vodafone weren't recognising in all cases

that complaints were complaints so they weren't treating them properly

and they were not escalating them. After eight weeks, customers have

the right to go to an independent arbitration service but Vodafone

went escalating complaints customers weren't always being made aware of

that. Matthew Howett is a telecoms analyst

at the research company, Ovum. Hello, Matthew. It is a big deal,

this. A huge fine. ?4.6 million probably one of the biggest finds

that Ofcom has levied. It follows an 18 month investigation into the

complaints that were directed towards Vodafone and problems around

their pay-as-you-go customers and it reflects the severity. Let's talk

about the problem with the pay-as-you-go customers. Quite

extraordinary. People were topping up their credit but it wasn't being

accredited to their account. So they were paying for no service

effectively. Something like 10,000 customers were affected by this

where they thought they had credit but they didn't. It stems from the

fact Vodafone was trying to migrate those customers from its only is he

billing systems, had something like seven of those, trying to bring them

into a new modern platform that should have meant better things for

consumers, but we know these things are often difficult and complex to

implement and Vodafone tripped up by trying to improve things. In terms

of the problem with breaching the code of conduct when it comes to

handling complaints, the issue was that some call handlers had not been

trained well enough to appreciate what a complaint actually was. This

is right. It snowballed for Vodafone because they had not only customers

who could not use the credit but they could not complain effectively

and that is what has caught Ofcom's attention. Not the first time Ofcom

has investigated this type of complaint. They find EE and TalkTalk

and fiscally about five years ago. We know that Ofcom has a watchful

eye on this process. And this kind of fine, the size of fine, it is a

warning to the phone companies to get their act together, isn't it? It

is. Ofcom revised its own complaints and fining processors last year.

While it didn't revolutionise what they can do, it certainly suggested

they are much more interested in trying to incentivise companies to

improve and to avoid the fines. This can be seen in some ways is trying

to act as a deterrent to other operators. Thank you, Matthew. For

those asking whether fined goes, it goes to the Treasury.

Over the past two weeks we've been bringing you news of the battle

to retake the Iraqi city of Mosul from the terror group Islamic State.

The main Iraqi government and Kurdish forces are still some

distance from their target destination, but a group of special

forces advancing from the east are now only three miles

Ayman Oghanna is a video journalist embedded with Iraqi Special Forces

Its foe in the morning, and our unit are Gordon division is getting ready

to begin their part in the offensive to take the city of Mosul back from

the Islamic State. To clear the way, the first vehicle is another heavy

vehicles, armoured bulldozers and tanks. Following behind our three

columns of armoured Humvees, who are going to reach the centre of these

villages and clear the roots of his horses en route to Mosul.

We are just at the gates of the target village

when we receive a lot more fire from examining state and

We've been supported by a few air strikes and

now we are spreading out and getting ready to push in, spilling into two

flanks to try and take control of the village.

Despite this being the first time that they have seen

whole thing kind of has an air of routine and familiarity to it.

We have entered the centre of the village.

As you can hear, there is still gunfire and fighting going on.

Civilians are coming out to greet the soldiers as they are coming in.

I wish I could tell you the name of the village.

I can't, because none of the soldiers or officers

I could give you the GPS coordinates, but that is about it.

It just goes to show how removed this area was from the central

Baghdad Government and how IS was able to take advantage of the

marginalisation felt in these small, rural areas.

How much homophobia is there among football fans?

Not much, according to a new survey - we'll be looking into the issue.

More on the French authority's efforts to demolish the jungle in

Calais. Good Morning, here's

Julian in the BBC Newsroom Vodafone is being fined ?4.6 million

for failing customers in the UK. The communications regulator Ofcom

found "serious and sustained breaches of consumer protection

rules" by the company. Vodafone has admitted

the breaches and apologised. Treating children with autism

from two can significantly reduce the severity of their symptoms

and sustain the improvement over six years, according

to ground-breaking research. The study published in the Lancet,

is the first to identify a long-term effect on the condition

after an early intervention. In the trial, parents took

on the role of therapists, leading daily sessions of

communication and play activities. The President of the European

Parliament has referred an altercation between two Ukip MEPs

to the French authorities. The party's former migration

spokesman Steven Woolfe was treated in hospital for several days

earlier this month - following an incident with another

MEP Mike Hookem. A report by the European parliament

says the version of events given by both men "diverged

substantially". The parliament's president

Martin Schulz says French authorities will now investigate -

and decide if any sanctions should That's a summary of the latest BBC

News, more at 10.30. A survey has found that the majority

of sports fans would be comfortable with their club signing

a gay player. The online poll by Radio 5 Live,

was answered by 4,000 people, and found that 82% of them wouldn't

have an issue with it. The most high profile male

footballer to come out in recent times is former Aston Villa player

Thomas Hitzlsperger. He said his sexuality wasn't

a problem in the dressing room, but he didn't reveal it

until after he'd retired. Carl fromp tonne's rematch against

Leo Santa Cruz will take place on 28th January in Las Vegas. . Despite

controversy, Bradley Wiggins was given a friendly reception at the

velodrome on his final track appearance. That's all the sport for

now. More across the day on the BBC News Channel.

Large number of makeshift shelters in the Calais 'Jungle' migrant

camp have been burned to the ground overnight.

It's thought the fires were the work of people

who want to continue living in the camp, as a final

The French authorities have started demolishing the jungle

and are moving migrants to refugee centres across France.

Let's get the latest from the camp in Calais

with our correspondent Simon Jones, who's been there all week.

This is not how the demolition was supposed to proceed. This used to be

a bustling street. The shops and restaurants were declared illegal by

the government here and had to shut down, but now they're completely

gone in an unattended way. Let's just go over here to see there's a

huge amount of debris and ash. There were fires raging all around here

last night, a busy night for the Fire Service. Shops and restaurants

had been here. We have been speaking to migrants, 17 in a shelter, and

the fire spread to where they were sleeping and we saw their burning

beds. You can see some black smoke going up there and it looks like

another fire's broken out. That smoke looks pretty toxic. In the

past few minutes as well we have seen smoke beside it. There are

probably about four fires raging in the back ground. At the moment, it's

unclear who's starting the fires because initially it had been

thought these were migrants really saying well, if you are forcing us

out, you are not going to bring bulldozers in and take down the

shelters, we are going to do it for you. Then I spoke to the Calais

chief of police earlier and he told me the migrants said they thought it

was done by activists, for example why would you set fire to a shelter

when you know there are 17 people in there. He told me he's investigating

that. Take a look down there and you can see some of the debris which has

plastic that's been burnt so there are some nasty fumes here. People

have a sense of disbelief. They weren't expecting this to happen. A

lots of people knowing they have to go. If we move the camera around, we

have a woman and her child walking through the mud here. These are the

type of people that they say must leave the jungle because this is no

fit place for anyone to live. Now not just the mud, dirt and debris,

but smoke and buildings that have been destroyed. We are told so far

that the authorities have managed to move around 4,000 migrants. Now,

those are largely adults, 3,000 who've been taken away on buses but

we are also told around 800 children have been put into safe containers,

but there's concern there are still children around and what will they

make of all of this? Thank you very much.

Just last week the boss of the Football Association said

he was 'personally ashamed' that no professional gay football players

There are no openly gay players in the top leagues. Last week, the boss

of the Football Association said he was ashamed no professional

footballers came out in this country.

Speaking to MPs, Greg Clarke, said he could understand why players

do not feel comfortable coming out - but is determined to change

the culture of the game to make it more inclusive.

I'm personally ashamed they don't feel safe to come out. Why don't

they feel safe to come out? I think what we have in football is a cross

section of society. There is a very, very small minority

of people who hurl vile abuse at people who they perceive are

different. But there'll always be a few who in football charge too high

a price on people who're gay. What do you think would happen to a gay

player who came out today? I think there would be significant abuse. Do

you? I do. Because I don't think we have cracked the problem yet. And

our job is to make sure that we identify targets and punish people

who don't respect the safe inclusive nature of football.

Well a survey today carried out for BBC five Live suggests that more

than four out five football fans in Britain would be comfortable

if their club signed a player who was gay.

But eight percent would not want to watch their team,

The study also found 61% of fans believe gay players should come out

Let's speak to Lou Englefield who's in Powys, Mid Wales

she's the Director of Pride Sports an organisation which

campaigns on the behalf of LGBT sport fans.

In Birmingham is Neil Beasley he came out to his team mates nine

years ago and recently wrote a book about life as a gay fan and player.

Lou, the vast majority of clubs would be fine but 8% wouldn't watch

their team. What do you think? It doesn't surprise me there is a small

minority in this country who express homophobic views, you know, that's

true across-the-board and so that's not really surprising. I think the

big issue here is the disparity between fans who say that they would

be supportive of a gay player and yet the amount of casual homophobia

we hear in the game. James Wilson in our Salford newsroom. You were

recently subjected to some homophobia? We have been subjected

to it twice from two different teams. It's still very prevalent

within the game at grass roots and professional level and I would whole

heartedly agree with Lou that the disparity between what fans say in a

survey and what actually happens in public life is different. Was that

the homophobia that you experienced from a team or from football fans,

people watching? So from players within a team. I have to say it was

a minority but players within a team that we've beaten at the weekend in

a cup game, there have been some frustrations on the pitch and that

spilled out into hope phobic slurs and language. How do you react? We

have become fairly used to it, I've been playing for the club seven

years and it's been going 20 years, it was a lot more extreme when the

club first started when players from Manchester founded the club. Things

are improving but it's still an issue we have to deal with on a

weekly basis. I wonder Neil in terms of the results of the survey which

soots most fans will be perfectly comfortable, happy if their club

signed a gay player, do you think that is enough to at some point

seeing a gay player come out professionally in the Premier League

for example? I think we are still some way off seeing a player come

out in the professional league. The results are encouraging and, as Lou

said, you are always going to get a small minority against it. We are a

long way off. The 8% that won't watch are not a problem, I'm sure

the club wouldn't want them as fans anyway with that mindset but there

would be a minority and they can shout the loudest, it spreads like a

disease and before you know it, people are chanting the same things,

people need to be aware of the effect their words have on people.

We are still some way away from a professional coming out. Lou, again,

part of this survey, 50% of fans have witnessed hope Phoebe ing

abuse, I wonder what has to continue to work to change that --

homophobic. We need education within the game. I think we need education

from the very top, from the board rooms down to the managers and

coaches in grass roots football. We need everybody the take

responsibility for the language that's used by people. We need to

give those people the skills to challenge it. People still don't

understand what the homophobic and I think then people don't know how to

challenge it. We need to equip people with the tools to be able to

make those challenges in a positive and productive way. James, what do

you think the difference is between football and rugby where we have

seen professional rugby players come out but we have just not seen it in

football? I'm not sure to be honest,

footballers are much more popular sport, I suppose, globally. In the

UK for me, football is the bread and butter of most working class

environments, I suppose, and I do feel as though that has been

slightly behind the curve, in terms of tackling homophobia. Although I

think have a few stray players who play within our team, and attitudes

are changing. I think you probably will take a professional footballer

to really change things to come out. That is something we are really

pushing for. I know it is a personal journey in terms of coming out but

if someone did have the bravery to do it, it will just make it so much

easier for everyone else involved in the sport. Niall, tell us what it

was like when he came out your team-mates? I had built it up as an

issue for a couple of weeks. I decided a couple of them did know

and I decided it would be best just to come out. But nobody cared. It

wasn't a big issue at all. I had been playing the some of these

people for years and they were my friends but it is still a difficult

thing. But they were really good. Unfortunately, other people have not

had such good stories. As I put in my book, there was an incident with

someone I know really well who was pretty much kicked out of their

team, left out, abandoned. Everyone pretty much discern them and they

had to leave the team soon as it was found out they were gay. Without

naming names, when was that, what here, and whereabouts in the

country? That was in the West Midlands here and we are going back

about six or seven years. They were completely disowned by their team. I

should imagine other people have stories like that. That is not the

support you need. As Lou said, education is the key particularly at

grassroots level but also the FA need to take a firm stand when

incidents come to light. Do they not? I would have said the recent

four-game ban for Andre Gray saying burn and died towards gay people was

not harsh enough in my opinion. What would have been suitable? At least

double that. Ziggy says this on e-mail, the fans who wouldn't even