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I'm Victoria Derbyshire, welcome to the programme. | :00:07. | :00:10. | |
This morning, the village in Hungary which appears to be trying | :00:11. | :00:12. | |
to create a white utopia, and wants British | :00:13. | :00:15. | |
TRANSLATION: Real refugees live in a multicultural society, where Muslim | :00:16. | :00:29. | |
immigrants have become the majority. We'll bring you that | :00:30. | :00:31. | |
exclusive report shortly. Also on the programme, | :00:32. | :00:33. | |
measures to tackle the high cost of renting are being announced | :00:34. | :00:36. | |
by the Government today. It's being seen as an attempt | :00:37. | :00:38. | |
to accept that for some people owning their own home | :00:39. | :00:41. | |
will never happen. I've never owned my own home. I am a | :00:42. | :00:58. | |
regulated tenant, I can stay in my home for life and I pay a fair | :00:59. | :01:03. | |
event. I rent and I have resigned myself to the fact that I will have | :01:04. | :01:05. | |
the rent for the rest of my life. If you rent, have you given up hope | :01:06. | :01:08. | |
of ever buying your own property? What would you like to see | :01:09. | :01:11. | |
the Government announce today? After those humiliating emails | :01:12. | :01:13. | |
which showed he was cross about not getting a knighthood, | :01:14. | :01:18. | |
it's emerged that a hacker demanded money in return | :01:19. | :01:20. | |
for not publishing them. Here he is talking about his | :01:21. | :01:22. | |
charity work in the past. Every time that you see different | :01:23. | :01:32. | |
devastations around the world in different situations, you always | :01:33. | :01:35. | |
feel you can do more, or you want to do more. | :01:36. | :01:43. | |
Throughout the morning we'll bring you the latest breaking news | :01:44. | :01:47. | |
A little later we'll bring you the story of a flight attendant | :01:48. | :01:51. | |
who rescued a young girl from human traffickers after leaving | :01:52. | :01:54. | |
a secret note for her in the loo of the plane. | :01:55. | :02:00. | |
If you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. | :02:01. | :02:04. | |
The Government is setting out its strategy for fixing what it | :02:05. | :02:09. | |
says is a "broken housing market in England" and hitting its target | :02:10. | :02:14. | |
of building a million new homes by the year 2020. | :02:15. | :02:16. | |
Plans will include more help for first-time buyers, | :02:17. | :02:21. | |
and measures to make rental agreements more secure. | :02:22. | :02:25. | |
Britain's house-building programme has been | :02:26. | :02:27. | |
Today, the Government says it is time to change. | :02:28. | :02:33. | |
It wants councils to put pressure on developers to speed up, | :02:34. | :02:37. | |
but also says it wants to protect greenbelt land wherever possible. | :02:38. | :02:42. | |
Prices are too high, we are not building enough homes, | :02:43. | :02:45. | |
and this white paper is a radical blueprint to change | :02:46. | :02:48. | |
The Government says it wants more prebuilt houses to help | :02:49. | :02:52. | |
But for some, like Jennifer Tristram, the only choice is to rent | :02:53. | :02:59. | |
When I was looking, I remember there wasn't that much option out | :03:00. | :03:04. | |
there for what I wanted and what I could afford. | :03:05. | :03:08. | |
I think anybody who is in that same situation will probably be | :03:09. | :03:11. | |
feeling that struggle, probably even more so than I did | :03:12. | :03:15. | |
The Government says smaller builders should get help to boost the housing | :03:16. | :03:22. | |
stock, and it's encouraging older people to downsize, so long | :03:23. | :03:25. | |
Labour says the housing strategy is in a mess and today's white paper | :03:26. | :03:30. | |
With us now is our political guru Norman Smith. | :03:31. | :03:43. | |
What difference will be plants make? It depends whether the plans, | :03:44. | :03:53. | |
reality, because we have had so many different Government plans on | :03:54. | :03:56. | |
housing, and it has not cracked the basic goblin. To get more houses | :03:57. | :04:02. | |
built. One thing today, the Government are again saying, hands | :04:03. | :04:08. | |
off the green belt, so many developers will say, the difficulty | :04:09. | :04:12. | |
is we cannot access sufficient land to build the vast number of houses | :04:13. | :04:17. | |
that are meant. But one interesting aspect of the plans is we are seeing | :04:18. | :04:22. | |
a definite week away from the idea that everybody should own a home, to | :04:23. | :04:27. | |
maybe just settling for renting a home. That is a recognition that | :04:28. | :04:32. | |
house prices have gone crazy, they are not affordable for many people, | :04:33. | :04:36. | |
and they are not going to be able to own a home. That is different from | :04:37. | :04:40. | |
the Thatcher years, even the David Cameron years, where there was an | :04:41. | :04:44. | |
instinctive aspiration, that people wanted to own a home. Now the | :04:45. | :04:49. | |
Government are trying to encourage developers to build more flats to | :04:50. | :04:54. | |
rent to encourage longer tenancies and to shift the market more in | :04:55. | :04:59. | |
favour of renting, in the hope that might enable more people to get a | :05:00. | :05:05. | |
decent roof over their head. We know that renting is a huge | :05:06. | :05:10. | |
issue, finding an affordable, decent place is massive, so do get in | :05:11. | :05:16. | |
touch. We will talk about the plans just after 9:30am. | :05:17. | :05:18. | |
Joanna Gosling is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary | :05:19. | :05:21. | |
The Commons Speaker John Bercow has been strongly criticised | :05:22. | :05:24. | |
after telling MPs that President Trump should not be | :05:25. | :05:27. | |
allowed to address Parliament when he visits the UK. | :05:28. | :05:29. | |
Mr Bercow was cheered by opposition MPs when he told the Commons that | :05:30. | :05:32. | |
addressing Parliament was "not an automatic right", | :05:33. | :05:34. | |
but an "earned honour" for foreign leaders. | :05:35. | :05:35. | |
One Tory MP described his intervention as | :05:36. | :05:41. | |
It's an honour that's bestowed on Popes and Presidents. | :05:42. | :05:49. | |
A speech to both Houses of Parliament in the splendour | :05:50. | :05:52. | |
of Westminster Hall was part of the itinerary when these | :05:53. | :05:55. | |
But the same invite may not be coming Mr Trump's way. | :05:56. | :06:03. | |
In an astonishing intervention, the Commons Speaker said recent | :06:04. | :06:07. | |
decisions by the President made him uneasy about issuing an invitation. | :06:08. | :06:14. | |
I feel very strongly that our opposition to racism | :06:15. | :06:20. | |
and to sexism and our support for equality before the law | :06:21. | :06:25. | |
and an independent judiciary are hugely important considerations | :06:26. | :06:31. | |
Rare applause from SNP and Labour MPs, who have been highly critical | :06:32. | :06:37. | |
That anger brought anti-Trump demonstrations | :06:38. | :06:42. | |
to the Prime Minister's door after she invited him on a state | :06:43. | :06:45. | |
For us to roll out the red carpet at Buckingham Palace or inviting him | :06:46. | :06:51. | |
to speak at a grand occasion of both Houses sends out all | :06:52. | :06:55. | |
That's why Mr Speaker Bercow has called it right today. | :06:56. | :06:59. | |
The Speaker of the Commons is a powerful figure who has a say | :07:00. | :07:02. | |
He is independent of party politics and is supposed | :07:03. | :07:07. | |
It's clear that some are unhappy with his outburst. | :07:08. | :07:13. | |
Generally, the Speaker who is meant to referee all of this should | :07:14. | :07:16. | |
That is to be regretted, but it is a symptom of | :07:17. | :07:20. | |
It's very disappointing, because if ever in recent years | :07:21. | :07:26. | |
there been a more pro-British President of the United States, | :07:27. | :07:31. | |
I invite you, Mr President, to address us. | :07:32. | :07:36. | |
And Tory MPs are pointing out that he has in the past welcomed | :07:37. | :07:39. | |
leaders to Parliament whose values Britain doesn't always share. | :07:40. | :07:48. | |
A village in Hungary has banned the wearing of Muslim dress | :07:49. | :07:51. | |
The mayor of Asotthalom claims to be leading what he calls "the war | :07:52. | :07:55. | |
against Muslim culture", and he hopes to attract | :07:56. | :07:58. | |
other Christian Europeans who object to multiculturalism | :07:59. | :08:00. | |
Some lawyers have said the laws contravene the Hungarian | :08:01. | :08:05. | |
constitution and the government there is due to rule on them | :08:06. | :08:08. | |
Amnesty International has accused the Syrian government | :08:09. | :08:12. | |
The human-rights group claims that as many as 13,000 people | :08:13. | :08:18. | |
Amnesty says the alleged executions were authorised at the highest | :08:19. | :08:25. | |
The government has previously denied killing or mistreating detainees | :08:26. | :08:30. | |
Doctors' leaders say it's "crazy" that the UK's standard ten-minute | :08:31. | :08:36. | |
slot for GP consultations is among the shortest in Europe. | :08:37. | :08:40. | |
They say plans to move more care out of hospitals will leave even | :08:41. | :08:43. | |
The Department of Health says it's up to practices to decide how long | :08:44. | :08:48. | |
The Great Homer Street doctors surgery in Everton in Liverpool | :08:49. | :08:59. | |
This is an area with high deprivation and patients | :09:00. | :09:05. | |
13 minutes is sometimes enough and sometimes it's not. | :09:06. | :09:14. | |
I would normally finish my surgery late anyway. | :09:15. | :09:20. | |
That's why we have recently increased to 13 minutes | :09:21. | :09:22. | |
On the whole, patients aren't too happy to wait. | :09:23. | :09:26. | |
They're OK, they know they get the time that they need. | :09:27. | :09:30. | |
But complex problems can't be done in 13 minutes. | :09:31. | :09:34. | |
Occasionally, consultations will last up to 40 minutes. | :09:35. | :09:36. | |
The average length of a GP consultation in the UK is ten | :09:37. | :09:39. | |
minutes, thought to be the shortest in the developed world. | :09:40. | :09:43. | |
92% of appointments here are less than 15 minutes. | :09:44. | :09:47. | |
With short appointment slots, time wasting is also an issue. | :09:48. | :09:55. | |
A poll for the BBC found that 70% of people in the UK believed | :09:56. | :10:00. | |
it was acceptable to charge patients who missed appointments. | :10:01. | :10:06. | |
The Governments of England, Scotland and Wales say the length | :10:07. | :10:09. | |
of consultations are down to GPs but have pledged extra funding | :10:10. | :10:12. | |
Northern Ireland have yet to respond but GPs say funding | :10:13. | :10:18. | |
A PR company representing David Beckham has confirmed | :10:19. | :10:26. | |
it was subject to a blackmail attempt by hackers threatening | :10:27. | :10:29. | |
The Daily Mirror says the private messages in which the former player | :10:30. | :10:34. | |
allegedly complains about not being awarded a knighthood | :10:35. | :10:37. | |
were published after the firm refused to hand over | :10:38. | :10:39. | |
A spokesman for David Beckham says that the e-mails were tampered | :10:40. | :10:44. | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC News. | :10:45. | :10:52. | |
Thank you for your comment about renting. Daniel says, get councils | :10:53. | :11:05. | |
to build more housing. Marianne says, first-time buyers are now well | :11:06. | :11:09. | |
into their 30s and 40s because the market has been overpriced. Paul | :11:10. | :11:14. | |
says, builders pay lip service to affordable housing. There is a | :11:15. | :11:21. | |
shift, experts say, in the Government's tone when it comes to | :11:22. | :11:25. | |
fixing the supposedly broken housing system. They will concentrate on the | :11:26. | :11:31. | |
rental sector. We have people here who have horrific stories of | :11:32. | :11:34. | |
renting, but also the fact that at least one of them is in a secure | :11:35. | :11:38. | |
tenancy with fair event, so it can be done. | :11:39. | :11:40. | |
Do get in touch with us throughout the morning. | :11:41. | :11:42. | |
If you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. | :11:43. | :11:46. | |
There only seems to be one name in the hat to replace Alastair Cook, | :11:47. | :11:59. | |
Joe Root. Yes, nothing official, but that is who we expect. Alastair Cook | :12:00. | :12:06. | |
stepping down. Joe Root is 26. When you look at his ability, one of the | :12:07. | :12:10. | |
best players in the team. You would like to think you have a captain | :12:11. | :12:16. | |
that gets in the team, they have the respect of his team-mates, and there | :12:17. | :12:19. | |
are no other alternatives to consider. England have a break | :12:20. | :12:25. | |
before their next bit of action. They have the Test match here was | :12:26. | :12:29. | |
against South Africa, then they have the West Indies, before going to | :12:30. | :12:33. | |
Australia for the Ashes. A bit of time to get it in place, but | :12:34. | :12:39. | |
Alastair Cook stepping down, and Andries Strauss, the director of | :12:40. | :12:42. | |
cricket, says it is not a foregone conclusion. | :12:43. | :12:46. | |
There is a process to go through. Joe Root has been vice captain for a | :12:47. | :12:51. | |
while, he has had some leadership experience. He is a phenomenal | :12:52. | :12:54. | |
cricketer and a very influential person in the dressing room. There | :12:55. | :12:59. | |
is no reason why he would not be a strong candidate, but I do not want | :13:00. | :13:04. | |
to rule anyone in or out. Not a foregone conclusion, but that | :13:05. | :13:08. | |
is what we expect. You look at Alastair Cook, it was not a question | :13:09. | :13:13. | |
of his batting ability. He was in charge for a record 59 matches, the | :13:14. | :13:21. | |
highest run Stora in Test match cricket, 140 Test match appearances, | :13:22. | :13:25. | |
30 centuries. The question was about his aggression on the pitch and his | :13:26. | :13:30. | |
on field decisions and his ability to change a game. That is something | :13:31. | :13:35. | |
they hope Joe Root will add to. But when you look at the captains and | :13:36. | :13:38. | |
when they step down, they all look dishevelled, going back to Michael | :13:39. | :13:43. | |
Vaughan, Andrew Strauss, Nasser Hussain, Michael Atherton, you are | :13:44. | :13:48. | |
quite drained, as Andrew Strauss said about Alastair Cook yesterday. | :13:49. | :13:52. | |
A lot of scrutiny. And, Will, having missed Rio 2016, | :13:53. | :13:55. | |
Russian athletes will now not be allowed to compete under their flag | :13:56. | :13:58. | |
at the World Athletics Championships But, Will, is there a chance that | :13:59. | :14:01. | |
some of those athletes This is an extended ban for Russia's | :14:02. | :14:14. | |
athletes, from missing the Olympics. If the athletes can prove that they | :14:15. | :14:22. | |
have gone through all of the portfolios and they are clean, they | :14:23. | :14:27. | |
will be able to compete as a neutral athlete at the World Athletics | :14:28. | :14:30. | |
Championships in London in August. So far 35 Russians have applied to | :14:31. | :14:39. | |
compete as neutrals. The IAAF have set up an independent task force. | :14:40. | :14:50. | |
Russia still are not ready to go through the protocol, it has been | :14:51. | :14:54. | |
recommended. Lord Coe says there are concerns about the doping | :14:55. | :14:58. | |
procedures. We are not going to change the | :14:59. | :15:01. | |
culture of something that has been prominent for 40 or 50 years. And | :15:02. | :15:07. | |
not just simply in Russia. We want to see some sign that there is a | :15:08. | :15:13. | |
cultural shift. We are not going to resubmit the newly constricted | :15:14. | :15:18. | |
Russian Federation and yet. The clear implication is they would | :15:19. | :15:23. | |
appear if they do as neutral athlete. | :15:24. | :15:28. | |
No Russian athletes competing under the flag of Russia in London. | :15:29. | :15:34. | |
Cheers, Will. Thank you very much for now. | :15:35. | :15:34. | |
I'll talk to you later. This morning, the village in Hungary | :15:35. | :15:39. | |
that wants only white Asotthalom is hoping to persuade | :15:40. | :15:42. | |
Christian Europeans, including Brits, to move there, | :15:43. | :15:45. | |
with the mayor telling us, "We primarily welcome people | :15:46. | :15:48. | |
who wouldn't like to live The mayor's banned Islamic dress | :15:49. | :15:56. | |
and gay kissing in public. This programme can reveal that | :15:57. | :16:01. | |
a secretive organisation linked to the former British National Party | :16:02. | :16:03. | |
leader Nick Griffin is helping to promote the village in the UK | :16:04. | :16:06. | |
to Christians who want to escape Islam and multi-culturalism | :16:07. | :16:11. | |
in the west. Our reporter Lesley Ashmall has been | :16:12. | :16:14. | |
to visit Asotthalom. TRANSLATION: Real refugees | :16:15. | :16:21. | |
are people in Western Europe who live in a multicultural society | :16:22. | :16:23. | |
where, for instance, Muslim Hungary is already seen by more | :16:24. | :16:25. | |
and more West Europeans as a place of refuge, | :16:26. | :16:40. | |
a place to get away from the hell that is about to break | :16:41. | :16:43. | |
loose in Western Europe. Asotthalom, a remote village | :16:44. | :16:54. | |
in the southern Hungarian plains. Abandoned smallholdings testimony | :16:55. | :17:02. | |
to an increasingly urbanised world. The village is two hours | :17:03. | :17:10. | |
from Budapest, but just minutes The mayor here wants to attract | :17:11. | :17:12. | |
new investors to bolster TRANSLATION: I think these empty | :17:13. | :17:25. | |
houses need inhabitants. We are very | :17:26. | :17:35. | |
happy when Hungarian families move into them, but we are also happy | :17:36. | :17:38. | |
if Western Europeans settle here. I think security may be the most | :17:39. | :17:44. | |
important attraction for them, as Asotthalom is one of the safest | :17:45. | :17:47. | |
places to live in Europe. Local estate agents are hoping | :17:48. | :17:54. | |
foreigners take heed. TRANSLATION: Nine | :17:55. | :18:02. | |
to ?10,000, in total. This village doesn't | :18:03. | :18:11. | |
want just anyone, TRANSLATION: We primarily welcome | :18:12. | :18:25. | |
people from western Europe, people who wouldn't like to live | :18:26. | :18:32. | |
in a multicultural society. We wouldn't like to attract Muslim | :18:33. | :18:35. | |
people in the village, even though we already have a few | :18:36. | :18:39. | |
Muslim residents in Asotthalom. But it's very important for the | :18:40. | :18:45. | |
village to maintain its traditions. If large numbers of Muslims arrived | :18:46. | :18:50. | |
here, they would not be able to integrate into the Christian | :18:51. | :18:53. | |
community in Asotthalom. We can see large Muslim communities | :18:54. | :18:57. | |
in western Europe that have not been able to integrate | :18:58. | :19:01. | |
and we don't want to have The bylaws you have | :19:02. | :19:04. | |
got in the village, Western Christians would feel | :19:05. | :19:10. | |
uncomfortable with them. Why do you feel those | :19:11. | :19:13. | |
bylaws are so important? Simply because we're | :19:14. | :19:18. | |
defending our own traditions. What if I was black, | :19:19. | :19:20. | |
or what if I was gay? Asotthalom has a by-law that | :19:21. | :19:22. | |
bans sexual propaganda. As for your other question, | :19:23. | :19:36. | |
think about this - Europe is small, it can't take in billions of people | :19:37. | :19:43. | |
from Africa and South Asia This would soon lead | :19:44. | :19:46. | |
to the disappearance of Europe. I'd like Europe to belong | :19:47. | :19:50. | |
to Europeans, Asia to belong to Asians and Africa to Africans, | :19:51. | :19:52. | |
simple as that. He's so serious he's introduced | :19:53. | :19:56. | |
local legislation banning public displays of affection by gay people, | :19:57. | :20:00. | |
the wearing of Islamic dress like the hijab, and he wants to ban | :20:01. | :20:04. | |
the building of mosques. And his views are being pushed | :20:05. | :20:09. | |
by a British organisation called You can clearly see | :20:10. | :20:12. | |
from the imagery, they are really harking back to the Crusades, | :20:13. | :20:20. | |
when the official Knights Templar, an offshoot of the Catholic Church, | :20:21. | :20:22. | |
fought Muslim armies This organisation has no official | :20:23. | :20:24. | |
links to the Catholic Church. But they claim they are a Christian | :20:25. | :20:34. | |
and non-racist group will stop however, their anti-Muslim | :20:35. | :20:39. | |
and anti-gay views are clear. The former leader of | :20:40. | :20:41. | |
the British National Party, Nick Griffin, is a member, | :20:42. | :20:45. | |
as is the former BNP treasurer, This website is | :20:46. | :20:50. | |
advertising smallholdings Hungary is already seen by more | :20:51. | :20:53. | |
and more West Europeans as a place of refuge, | :20:54. | :21:00. | |
a place to get away from the hell that's about to break | :21:01. | :21:04. | |
loose in Western Europe. At the moment, Hungary is seen | :21:05. | :21:11. | |
by the nationalists, by the patriots, by people who agree | :21:12. | :21:13. | |
with the fence, those people are looking at Hungary thinking, | :21:14. | :21:16. | |
"thank God for Hungary, thank God that there | :21:17. | :21:19. | |
is someone standing up." And when it all goes | :21:20. | :21:21. | |
terribly wrong in the West, Now those are the kind | :21:22. | :21:24. | |
of people Hungary needs. We're pretty confident | :21:25. | :21:38. | |
this is the building where Knights Templar International | :21:39. | :21:42. | |
are registered in Budapest. Certainly pictures on their blogs, | :21:43. | :21:44. | |
websites, correspond We got into the building, | :21:45. | :21:46. | |
but couldn't find anyone We asked them for an interview, | :21:47. | :22:11. | |
they haven't responded. TRANSLATION: We don't | :22:12. | :22:17. | |
have an official relationship, I've been contacted | :22:18. | :22:28. | |
by Jim Dawson and he came to Asotthalom a few times | :22:29. | :22:30. | |
as a private individual just I heard it from journalists, | :22:31. | :22:36. | |
the possibility to move to Asotthalom has been advertised | :22:37. | :22:43. | |
abroad, I haven't seen Still, I must say, we're | :22:44. | :22:45. | |
very happy to welcome The refugee crisis has | :22:46. | :22:48. | |
contributed to the anti-immigrant sentiment sweeping | :22:49. | :22:55. | |
Europe, like the rise of the French Front Nationale | :22:56. | :22:59. | |
and the Dutch It's just a few miles | :23:00. | :23:01. | |
from the village, and it is where, at the height | :23:02. | :23:14. | |
of the migrant crisis in 2015, as many as | :23:15. | :23:16. | |
10,000 people a day Opposition politicians think | :23:17. | :23:18. | |
the mayor capitalised on the anxiety about the influx of people | :23:19. | :23:22. | |
to introduce bylaws of questionable TRANSLATION: It's possible that | :23:23. | :23:41. | |
with this by-law, the mayor has looked ahead, even though the danger | :23:42. | :23:43. | |
of Muslims wanting to build a mosque does not exist at the moment, he's | :23:44. | :23:46. | |
already preparing for the future. It was really scary to see masses | :23:47. | :23:49. | |
of migrants walking through the I spend a lot of time at home | :23:50. | :23:56. | |
alone with my young kids. Many lawyers think that the mayor's | :23:57. | :24:02. | |
by-laws contravened the Hungarian Constitution and as part | :24:03. | :24:08. | |
of a general review of new local legislation, the government | :24:09. | :24:11. | |
will rule on them next week. One of them agreed to speak with us, | :24:12. | :24:14. | |
but at the last minute pulled out. They didn't want to attract | :24:15. | :24:23. | |
attention to themselves. They've spoken of their fears | :24:24. | :24:32. | |
to Hungarian media TRANSLATION: The Muslim family that | :24:33. | :24:43. | |
lives here are fully integrated Their young son plays football, | :24:44. | :24:49. | |
I taught him to swim. TRANSLATION: There are gay people | :24:50. | :24:57. | |
living in the village, they're How they live their lives | :24:58. | :25:01. | |
at home is none of our We are all humans, we live | :25:02. | :25:07. | |
together, that's it. Important issues like this | :25:08. | :25:10. | |
should be regulated by the national government, | :25:11. | :25:11. | |
not local legislation. TRANSLATION: There is | :25:12. | :25:13. | |
a problem with Muslims and If they take off their veil, | :25:14. | :25:17. | |
I'll accept them, it doesn't even matter if they're black, | :25:18. | :25:26. | |
they should become Hungarian citizens, even if they are | :25:27. | :25:28. | |
Muslims or whatever. The mayor of Asotthalom | :25:29. | :25:32. | |
wants his village to be the vanguard in what he calls the war | :25:33. | :25:37. | |
against Muslim culture. He has employed round-the-clock | :25:38. | :25:39. | |
border patrols which he thinks will appeal | :25:40. | :25:41. | |
to European settlers. We couldn't find anyone who has | :25:42. | :25:47. | |
come to the village as a result of Knights | :25:48. | :25:50. | |
Templar International. Jonathan came here from England over | :25:51. | :25:56. | |
four years ago and is worried. I had a Christian upbringing | :25:57. | :26:07. | |
myself, some of the ideas that he is saying, personally, | :26:08. | :26:11. | |
I would not class them And the idea that one | :26:12. | :26:14. | |
group of people is better than the other, | :26:15. | :26:17. | |
I disagree with that. I know there's a lot of fear | :26:18. | :26:21. | |
perpetrated about the migrants coming over, and causing | :26:22. | :26:24. | |
a lot of property damage and stealing things, | :26:25. | :26:26. | |
but personally, I've got little What you think about | :26:27. | :26:28. | |
Nick Griffin, former BNP leader in the UK, also pushing | :26:29. | :26:35. | |
homesteads in this village? Well, I have recently read | :26:36. | :26:42. | |
some of Nick Griffin's previous comments about him | :26:43. | :26:45. | |
moving to Eastern Europe. And setting up an enclave | :26:46. | :26:53. | |
or a refugee centre for people Having lived in areas | :26:54. | :26:56. | |
of Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire where the BNP | :26:57. | :27:03. | |
were quite prevalent, I would quite strongly be against | :27:04. | :27:07. | |
that happening here. Most villages dismissed the idea | :27:08. | :27:12. | |
of British extremists coming But one man is not laughing, | :27:13. | :27:16. | |
he is deadly serious. So serious that he answered | :27:17. | :27:24. | |
our last question Are you trying to create a white | :27:25. | :27:26. | |
supremacist village? No, I don't use this | :27:27. | :27:34. | |
word, white, because we are white European | :27:35. | :27:41. | |
Christian population. If we were black, we would | :27:42. | :27:48. | |
want to stay black. And if you want to read | :27:49. | :27:54. | |
more about Asotthalom, you can find it on the BBC | :27:55. | :28:12. | |
News site. The Government admits | :28:13. | :28:14. | |
the housing market is broken Well we'll be joined by this group | :28:15. | :28:21. | |
of people who all rent, some are desperate to get | :28:22. | :28:26. | |
on the housing ladder and can't, a landlord and a Conservative MP | :28:27. | :28:28. | |
who's been campaigning against building houses | :28:29. | :28:30. | |
on green belt land. Neil says, "I have been stuck in the | :28:31. | :28:34. | |
rental sector for ten years. Unable to get a mortgage because housing in | :28:35. | :28:39. | |
my area would require me to have a wage four times higher than I | :28:40. | :28:43. | |
currently air. My rent is over three-quarters of my take-home pay." | :28:44. | :28:49. | |
A PR company representing David Beckham confirmed it was subject to | :28:50. | :28:55. | |
a blackmail attempt by hackers threatening to leak Beckham's | :28:56. | :28:58. | |
personal e-mails. How damaging has this story been for brand Beckham? | :28:59. | :29:02. | |
Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news. | :29:03. | :29:07. | |
The Government is setting out its strategy for fixing what it | :29:08. | :29:09. | |
says is a "broken housing market in England" and hitting its target | :29:10. | :29:12. | |
of building a million new homes by the year 2020. | :29:13. | :29:15. | |
Plans will include more help for first-time buyers, | :29:16. | :29:17. | |
and measures to make rental agreements more secure. | :29:18. | :29:21. | |
The Speaker of the House of Commons John Bercow has been | :29:22. | :29:23. | |
strongly criticised for speaking out against President Trump | :29:24. | :29:27. | |
addressing MPs and Lords at the Houses of Parliament. | :29:28. | :29:29. | |
Mr Bercow, whose position as Speaker is supposed to be | :29:30. | :29:32. | |
politically neutral, has been accused of overstepping | :29:33. | :29:33. | |
One Tory MP described Mr Bercow's intervention | :29:34. | :29:39. | |
This programme has found that a village in Hungary has banned | :29:40. | :29:46. | |
the wearing of Muslim dress and the call to prayer. | :29:47. | :29:49. | |
The mayor of Asotthalom claims to be leading what he calls "the war | :29:50. | :29:52. | |
against Muslim culture", and he hopes to attract | :29:53. | :29:54. | |
other Christian Europeans who object to multiculturalism | :29:55. | :29:55. | |
Some lawyers have said the laws contravene the Hungarian | :29:56. | :30:00. | |
constitution, and the government there is due to rule on them | :30:01. | :30:03. | |
Amnesty International has accused the Syrian government | :30:04. | :30:08. | |
The human-rights group claims that as many as 13,000 people | :30:09. | :30:12. | |
Amnesty says the alleged executions were authorised at the highest | :30:13. | :30:18. | |
The government has previously denied killing or mistreating detainees | :30:19. | :30:24. | |
Doctors' leaders say it's "crazy" that the UK's standard ten-minute | :30:25. | :30:30. | |
slot for GP consultations is among the shortest in Europe. | :30:31. | :30:34. | |
They say plans to move more care out of hospitals will leave even | :30:35. | :30:37. | |
The Department of Health says it's up to practices to decide how | :30:38. | :30:42. | |
A PR company representing David Beckham has confirmed | :30:43. | :30:48. | |
it was subject to a blackmail attempt by hackers threatening | :30:49. | :30:51. | |
The Daily Mirror says the private messages in which the former player | :30:52. | :30:56. | |
allegedly complains about not being awarded a knighthood | :30:57. | :30:59. | |
were published after the firm refused to hand over | :31:00. | :31:02. | |
A spokesman for David Beckham says that the emails were tampered | :31:03. | :31:06. | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC News. | :31:07. | :31:12. | |
Thank you for your message on the piece on the village in Hungary. | :31:13. | :31:24. | |
This person says, this is something of interest to the white | :31:25. | :31:28. | |
working-class majority. This tweet says, let them go, at least we will | :31:29. | :31:31. | |
not have their poisonous attitudes here. One person says, shopping, the | :31:32. | :31:38. | |
idea that white Christians guarantee you a better life is ridiculous. One | :31:39. | :31:44. | |
person says, it is refreshing. Democracy seems to be dead in Europe | :31:45. | :31:48. | |
these days, we are told what to think and slated when our views do | :31:49. | :31:51. | |
not match those of the vociferous liberals. Why do them views not | :31:52. | :31:57. | |
attract the respect they deserve? And one more, Tracey says, so they | :31:58. | :32:03. | |
want to expel and reject the downtrodden and the suffering, it is | :32:04. | :32:05. | |
not sound very Christian to me. England are searching for a new Test | :32:06. | :32:08. | |
captain this morning, after Alastair Cook stepped down | :32:09. | :32:11. | |
as skipper after 59 Yorkshire coach Andrew Gale says | :32:12. | :32:13. | |
Root would "take more risks" if he replaces him | :32:14. | :32:18. | |
as England captain. Cook was in charge for | :32:19. | :32:21. | |
a record 59 matches. He is England's highest run | :32:22. | :32:23. | |
scorer in Test cricket, while his 140 Test appearances | :32:24. | :32:26. | |
and 30 centuries are Russian athletes won't | :32:27. | :32:29. | |
compete at this year's They've been serving a suspension | :32:30. | :32:33. | |
after state-sponsored doping was uncovered, | :32:34. | :32:37. | |
and athletics' world governing body the IAAF has voted | :32:38. | :32:40. | |
to continue that ban. But some Russian athletes could | :32:41. | :32:48. | |
compete as neutrals. Rafa Nadal will warm up | :32:49. | :32:51. | |
for Wimbledon by playing The 14-time grand-slam champion | :32:52. | :32:53. | |
joins Andy Murray at the event. The housing system is "broken", | :32:54. | :32:59. | |
even the Government says so. They're going to try | :33:00. | :33:07. | |
and do something about it. Plans include forcing councils | :33:08. | :33:09. | |
to produce an up-to-date plan for housing demand, | :33:10. | :33:11. | |
reducing the time allowed between planning permission | :33:12. | :33:13. | |
and the start of building from three to two years, a "lifetime | :33:14. | :33:15. | |
Isa" to help first-time But what is also expected | :33:16. | :33:18. | |
is a "change of tone" from previous Tory policy, | :33:19. | :33:21. | |
with a focus on people who are renting their homes | :33:22. | :33:24. | |
and perhaps an acceptance that some people will never be able | :33:25. | :33:28. | |
to afford to buy a house. Expected to include minimum tenancy | :33:29. | :33:33. | |
lengths to try to offer renters more security and a drive to build more | :33:34. | :33:35. | |
homes specifically for rent. With us this morning, | :33:36. | :33:42. | |
a group of people who all rent, some who're desperate to get | :33:43. | :33:44. | |
on the property market and can't. Also with them, Conservative MP | :33:45. | :33:47. | |
Andrew Mitchell, who's been campaigning against building houses | :33:48. | :33:49. | |
on greenbelt land, and David Smith from the Residential | :33:50. | :33:54. | |
Landlord Association, which represents landlords | :33:55. | :33:56. | |
in England and Wales. Let's have a giant conversation. If | :33:57. | :34:09. | |
the housing market is broken, you need more than another target for | :34:10. | :34:14. | |
building new homes and a minimum length of tenancy. There is a lot to | :34:15. | :34:20. | |
be welcomed in this white paper today. We have not seen it yet, but | :34:21. | :34:26. | |
it has been extensively leaked. What it is trying to do is enable | :34:27. | :34:31. | |
everyone to have a home. It is changing it in the way to describe, | :34:32. | :34:35. | |
it is not just about home ownership, it is about rental and about making | :34:36. | :34:40. | |
sure there are far more homes built in the future. As a constituency MP | :34:41. | :34:45. | |
are understand that, because I talk to sixth formers, those who cannot | :34:46. | :34:49. | |
get on the ladder, those who cannot rent, those who want a home and | :34:50. | :34:54. | |
cannot get it. This White Paper will enable all of those different | :34:55. | :34:58. | |
sections to have a better chance in the future than they have had in the | :34:59. | :35:02. | |
past. The point is you have to build these homes in the right places. Not | :35:03. | :35:10. | |
on green belt land, you say. In my constituency, Royal Sutton | :35:11. | :35:13. | |
Coldfield, we faced with a jump of 6000 on our green belt when there | :35:14. | :35:20. | |
are plenty of other alternatives. The Conservative councillors in | :35:21. | :35:22. | |
Birmingham and Sutton Coldfield have demonstrated how you can build the | :35:23. | :35:26. | |
same number of homes without doing so on the green belt. But across | :35:27. | :35:31. | |
England you cannot build 250,000 homes a year, the Government's new | :35:32. | :35:39. | |
target, unless you use green belt land as well. I don't agree. You | :35:40. | :35:44. | |
have to be more imaginative, you have to build communities, not just | :35:45. | :35:49. | |
housing, you have to focus on the contaminating old industrial land, | :35:50. | :35:53. | |
building on Brownfield land, more creative schemes in the cities. You | :35:54. | :36:00. | |
only build on the green belt is a last resort, and if it is a last | :36:01. | :36:06. | |
resort, it should be built on. The point I make on behalf of those who | :36:07. | :36:10. | |
I represent, who are opposed to this, and who are keen to build more | :36:11. | :36:14. | |
homes, is you do not have to do it on the green belt until all other | :36:15. | :36:19. | |
opportunities are exhausted. This White Paper was a clear opportunity | :36:20. | :36:27. | |
for Government to come up with a coherent strategy for building the | :36:28. | :36:30. | |
300,000 homes we need in this country every year to both me to | :36:31. | :36:35. | |
comment household formation and deal with a backlog. What they have | :36:36. | :36:43. | |
published is a rehashing and recycling of things that have been | :36:44. | :36:46. | |
announced already, they have failed to build on the green belt, and you | :36:47. | :36:51. | |
are in Lala land if you think you can build the homes we need if we do | :36:52. | :36:55. | |
not build on green belt. They have failed to reform stamp duty for | :36:56. | :37:00. | |
first-time buyers. All we have is weak aspirations on rent a security. | :37:01. | :37:07. | |
In the specific case of Sutton Coldfield, you are not correct. We | :37:08. | :37:12. | |
have shown where these homes could be built without desecrating our | :37:13. | :37:16. | |
green belt. We are enthusiastic about building more homes, but they | :37:17. | :37:21. | |
have to be in the right place. Not in your backyard! We have shown we | :37:22. | :37:27. | |
are willing to build in the town, to increase density. We want our | :37:28. | :37:30. | |
children and run children to live in the same sort of homes and | :37:31. | :37:34. | |
opportunities that our generation had, but it has to be in the right | :37:35. | :37:39. | |
place. You are demeaning the White Paper before you have even seen it. | :37:40. | :37:44. | |
I am critical of one respect but I accept that ministers are addressing | :37:45. | :37:48. | |
the problem, and you should not the minute interview have heard what the | :37:49. | :37:52. | |
Secretary of State has had to say. You say trying to find a decent | :37:53. | :37:56. | |
place to rent is like being on the X factor. I went to look for a room | :37:57. | :38:01. | |
recently, I was evicted on Christmas Eve,... Why? I was evicted by a | :38:02. | :38:08. | |
Conservative councillor, I will not name him, a former mayor of Barnet, | :38:09. | :38:13. | |
he had a building of 16 people come up with one shower, multiple | :38:14. | :38:19. | |
occupation, he was found not to have a licence, he bought the building | :38:20. | :38:23. | |
for ?1.3 million and was fined less than ?5,000. I do not know the | :38:24. | :38:28. | |
story, he is not here to defend himself, but you say you bought | :38:29. | :38:33. | |
evicted. How come you have moved seven times in ten years? We need a | :38:34. | :38:39. | |
mandatory register for landlords, we have too many landlords who can | :38:40. | :38:42. | |
decide that they just want to increase the rent. It is a problem | :38:43. | :38:48. | |
of NIMBY -ism that if we don't build more homes everywhere, especially in | :38:49. | :38:51. | |
central London, there is a supply and demand issue, and landlords can | :38:52. | :38:55. | |
charge what they want. It is unfortunate Andrew what the person | :38:56. | :39:02. | |
who describe somebody as a Brexit, we cannot have homes in Royal Sutton | :39:03. | :39:08. | |
Coldfield, but we can wed there are Labour voters. That is a political | :39:09. | :39:15. | |
attack. You are a politician. This White Paper is trying to address the | :39:16. | :39:20. | |
problem which deface, which is you do not have somewhere to live. The | :39:21. | :39:26. | |
Government wants to build more affordable homes for renting. That | :39:27. | :39:32. | |
was announced in the Autumn Statement. That is not new. But as | :39:33. | :39:37. | |
an ambition and as a target, you would welcome that? Absolutely, but | :39:38. | :39:43. | |
they announced that in the Autumn Statement, I wanted to see something | :39:44. | :39:47. | |
new. My question to Andrew is, if you build more homes, how does that | :39:48. | :39:52. | |
help me as somebody who is locked into renting? I have no other | :39:53. | :39:56. | |
option. Can I rent a new newly built home? | :39:57. | :39:59. | |
We have to wait until we see the White Paper, but the problem that | :40:00. | :40:06. | |
you have identified, consistently, ministers have said they want to | :40:07. | :40:10. | |
address this, they want to make sure that if you are in the rented | :40:11. | :40:14. | |
sector, there are more opportunities, more places to rent, | :40:15. | :40:17. | |
more houses are built for rent, and people are encouraged to rent and to | :40:18. | :40:23. | |
make property available for rent. The problem which you have | :40:24. | :40:27. | |
identified is exactly the issue that ministers are trying to address. The | :40:28. | :40:36. | |
Government's problem is partly the same thing that you have complained | :40:37. | :40:43. | |
about, the Government is wedded to institutional investment. That has | :40:44. | :40:46. | |
been talked about for 20 years, I am waiting. The majority of landlords | :40:47. | :40:51. | |
are relatively small. The problem with the green belt is institutional | :40:52. | :40:55. | |
investors want to build there, because they want to build big | :40:56. | :40:59. | |
developments. If the Government paid more attention to the landlords who | :41:00. | :41:04. | |
provide the majority of housing, wrecking sure there is enforcement | :41:05. | :41:09. | |
against the bad landlords, the ability to develop the small areas | :41:10. | :41:12. | |
that Andrew would like to see is much more likely to happen. Tell us | :41:13. | :41:16. | |
about your arrangement, it sounds like good practice. I am a regulated | :41:17. | :41:21. | |
tenant, I can stay there for life and I have a fair event. The dark | :41:22. | :41:25. | |
side is there is a lot of harassment. Long-term destruction of | :41:26. | :41:34. | |
iLife, because if you get rid of a regulated tenant, you make a lot of | :41:35. | :41:40. | |
money I being able to resell it. But the formula, having tenancy for life | :41:41. | :41:43. | |
and paying a fair rent, isn't it that works perfectly well in | :41:44. | :41:46. | |
Germany, and the companies make a solid profit, and this is something | :41:47. | :41:52. | |
we should consider injured using here. Good profit for the landlord, | :41:53. | :41:59. | |
security and peace of mind, safety in your home for the tenant. What is | :42:00. | :42:06. | |
your experience? I am lucky, because my landlord is brilliant, we have a | :42:07. | :42:10. | |
great communication, if we need anything he will come in and fix it. | :42:11. | :42:18. | |
But I lived in a house before where we had horror stories, I had a | :42:19. | :42:22. | |
landlady who said she was spying on us, she increased the rent by ?400. | :42:23. | :42:29. | |
We hear... Lots of my friends have horror stories. If you can make rent | :42:30. | :42:37. | |
where you take out the tremulous feeling, because that is the thing I | :42:38. | :42:41. | |
find, as somebody who has rented for seven years, I want to feel... I | :42:42. | :42:47. | |
have resigned myself to the fact that, unless my situation changes, I | :42:48. | :42:51. | |
will have the rent for the rest of my life. Who else feels that? How | :42:52. | :43:00. | |
old are you? I and 68, I will be in rented accommodation for the rest of | :43:01. | :43:04. | |
my life, because there are no options open to me. I cannot buy a | :43:05. | :43:09. | |
house, get a mortgage, nobody will give me a mortgage at my age. I have | :43:10. | :43:18. | |
got to rent. You feel the same? I am 55, I owned a property with my first | :43:19. | :43:23. | |
husband many years ago. Since divorce I have been in the private | :43:24. | :43:26. | |
rental sector. For the last 20 years. It is difficult and unstable. | :43:27. | :43:35. | |
Very expensive. I have three children, the oldest is now 31, Mike | :43:36. | :43:41. | |
youngest is 19, so now I have no dependents technically, that I have, | :43:42. | :43:45. | |
because my daughter needs somewhere to come home to in the university | :43:46. | :43:52. | |
holidays, my second husband died suddenly at the end of 2014, so we | :43:53. | :43:58. | |
are in a position now where we would have been homeless were it not for | :43:59. | :44:05. | |
loans and the kindness of family and friends. We would have been | :44:06. | :44:11. | |
homeless. My single income does not meet any of the affordability | :44:12. | :44:15. | |
criteria for a house in south-east London. Would you all welcome | :44:16. | :44:27. | |
minimum tenancies? Some security. On behalf of landlords, what sort of | :44:28. | :44:31. | |
minimum length would be acceptable? It is not about setting a minimum | :44:32. | :44:34. | |
length, different people have different needs. The White Paper is | :44:35. | :44:41. | |
proposing an incentive for minimum length for institutional landlords, | :44:42. | :44:44. | |
it is not proposing minimum length across-the-board. The difficulty | :44:45. | :44:47. | |
with minimum lengths, if you have one with, say, rent caps, as soon as | :44:48. | :44:53. | |
the link is up, the rent will shoot up. That is a danger. You can cap it | :44:54. | :45:01. | |
at the rate of inflation. With such a housing if you decades ago, we | :45:02. | :45:04. | |
would have been in social housing, but the Government are intent on | :45:05. | :45:10. | |
selling the social housing, which inflates the rental market. But | :45:11. | :45:14. | |
social housing rent is rising faster than social housing -- private | :45:15. | :45:22. | |
housing rent. This is one of the problems, it depends who's | :45:23. | :45:26. | |
statistics you want to grab. The NAO statistics show social housing rents | :45:27. | :45:32. | |
are rising faster than earnings. They are considerably lower. They | :45:33. | :45:40. | |
are supported by the Government and by institutions which have been | :45:41. | :45:41. | |
encouraged to sell those properties. You invited me on to talk about why | :45:42. | :45:55. | |
building on the green belt, I'm not here to defend this White Paper. | :45:56. | :46:06. | |
Which I haven't even seen. Your Government is working hand-in-hand | :46:07. | :46:09. | |
on Brexit with Donald Trump. I'm here to explain why building on the | :46:10. | :46:12. | |
green belt is not necessarily the right solution. But actually if you | :46:13. | :46:17. | |
asked me to make the point that a Government minister would make, | :46:18. | :46:22. | |
almost all the problems which are absolutely legitimate and important | :46:23. | :46:24. | |
problems to address are what the Government is seeking to address in | :46:25. | :46:29. | |
this White Paper. I'm not here to defend it because I have criticisms | :46:30. | :46:33. | |
of it, but the points made by the ladies and gentlemen here are | :46:34. | :46:35. | |
absolutely valid points which ministers are trying to address and | :46:36. | :46:39. | |
they're trying to deal with in this White Paper. You mentioned one thing | :46:40. | :46:48. | |
which is constructive. We have moved from Mrs Thatcher there is so | :46:49. | :46:50. | |
society. But what happens is building communities, you need | :46:51. | :46:53. | |
security of tenure and then you have the landlords moving in and smashing | :46:54. | :46:59. | |
private tenant after tenant with rent increases with harassment. | :47:00. | :47:02. | |
These are the bad landlords. There are some good ones as well and they | :47:03. | :47:06. | |
are smaubing entire communities and making people move out. Making | :47:07. | :47:12. | |
people homeless. How can we have what the Government points out | :47:13. | :47:15. | |
building communities when you have a landlord system that smashes those | :47:16. | :47:18. | |
very communities? Well, the gentleman over there who was... | :47:19. | :47:24. | |
David Smith. He pointed to something in the White Paper which shows that | :47:25. | :47:27. | |
ministers are trying to increase that level of security. Now, we may | :47:28. | :47:31. | |
not get it right, but let's give the Government and the minister the | :47:32. | :47:33. | |
benefit of the doubt today as he announces his White Paper and then | :47:34. | :47:38. | |
see if we can build on sort of progress which you suggested might | :47:39. | :47:46. | |
be in the White Paper. Tell us about your own personal | :47:47. | :47:51. | |
circumstances? I campaign with Priced Out. Can I ask you about your | :47:52. | :47:58. | |
own experience of renting. I had to move six times in the last two | :47:59. | :48:02. | |
years. Because you have been forced to? A couple of bad landlords, a | :48:03. | :48:07. | |
couple of personal things. I don't know how people with | :48:08. | :48:09. | |
responsibilities do it. It is unstable enough for me being in a | :48:10. | :48:13. | |
broken private rented sector where I can be evicted for any reason or no | :48:14. | :48:18. | |
reason at all with no months notice. If I had a family or something to | :48:19. | :48:22. | |
keep me in one place, it would be a nightmare. Steve says, "The housing | :48:23. | :48:27. | |
shortage is caused by letting too many people in this country." Andrew | :48:28. | :48:32. | |
Mitchell, does Steve have a point? No one knows what the immigration | :48:33. | :48:36. | |
totals will be in the future and they are a key factor in trying to | :48:37. | :48:40. | |
plan the number of houses in Birmingham, there is an allocation | :48:41. | :48:44. | |
of a figure for inward immigration which every time we ask about it | :48:45. | :48:49. | |
increases or deceases by a multiple of 6,000 houses threatened on my | :48:50. | :48:53. | |
constituency. So, with Brexit I think these levels are even more | :48:54. | :48:58. | |
uncertain and for those people who are making long-term plans, they | :48:59. | :49:01. | |
need to build that in to the plans that they are making. | :49:02. | :49:05. | |
Barbara says, "I am 64 years old and I want to move from my current two | :49:06. | :49:10. | |
bed home on the second floor with no lift to a single bed home, but I'm | :49:11. | :49:14. | |
priced out of the rental market. I've worked all my life and I feel | :49:15. | :49:19. | |
really frustrated. I started my married life in a rented room and I | :49:20. | :49:24. | |
lost my home after I got divorced." Deborah says, "Renting is a | :49:25. | :49:28. | |
nightmare after five years I have been given two months notice to | :49:29. | :49:31. | |
leave because the owner wants to sell. This is my home! " It's a | :49:32. | :49:41. | |
home. It's not just a house. Landlords are buying and selling | :49:42. | :49:45. | |
homes as though they were commodities just like they would buy | :49:46. | :49:50. | |
and sell shares or bags of coffee. A home is a very important part of | :49:51. | :49:55. | |
people's lives. It is your space. It's your safety net. You can't just | :49:56. | :50:01. | |
trade in homes... You can David, can't you, as a landlord? It is a | :50:02. | :50:06. | |
fair point. But the Government is pressing landlords to sell because | :50:07. | :50:10. | |
it has increased taxes on landlords and they can no longer claim | :50:11. | :50:15. | |
mortgage interest relief. I speak to many landlords who will be selling | :50:16. | :50:21. | |
their properties. There is one problem with that, people say that | :50:22. | :50:25. | |
will allow first-time buyers to buy those houses, I don't think that's | :50:26. | :50:30. | |
likely, but one person leaves to let one person in. A tenant will be | :50:31. | :50:33. | |
evicted so the first time buyer will buy the house. There is no sensible | :50:34. | :50:37. | |
thought in that policy. And my concern about some of this, I hope | :50:38. | :50:42. | |
the White Paper starts to deal with it this, we need a coherent housing | :50:43. | :50:47. | |
strategy, not a home ownership strategy, a proper coherent strategy | :50:48. | :50:50. | |
and we have been begging for one for nearly ten years and I hope this is | :50:51. | :50:54. | |
it. I can hear the frustration in your voice, David. I'm as frustrated | :50:55. | :51:00. | |
as everybody else. It is to did with houses being homes and when you have | :51:01. | :51:06. | |
a family, being forced to move maybe through an academic year or in the | :51:07. | :51:10. | |
middle of an academic year, struggling to stay in the same | :51:11. | :51:14. | |
location so your children can continue going to the same school, | :51:15. | :51:17. | |
even though they don't have security in terms of the home in which they | :51:18. | :51:21. | |
live, you want them to maintain friendship groups because we know | :51:22. | :51:27. | |
that children who are parts of families who are struggling do less | :51:28. | :51:31. | |
well in education. So it is a very important thing that parents and | :51:32. | :51:35. | |
therefore their children feel secure which they really don't at the | :51:36. | :51:40. | |
moment. I also moved 11 times in 15 years with three children. Wow. We | :51:41. | :51:47. | |
always managed to remain in the same area, but again, we needed help and | :51:48. | :51:52. | |
support that we wouldn't have had if we were forced to move elsewhere. | :51:53. | :51:57. | |
Can I thank you all for coming on the programme and talking about your | :51:58. | :52:00. | |
experience. Thank you, Andrew Mitchellment don't look cross at me! | :52:01. | :52:08. | |
Was I looking cross? Yes. You said about the importance of a key herant | :52:09. | :52:11. | |
White Paper. Would it be all right to ask you about Speaker Bercow's | :52:12. | :52:19. | |
comments? I wondered as you're here? He is entitled to make them. 'S very | :52:20. | :52:24. | |
good modern Speaker, but although what he said is contentious, that's | :52:25. | :52:29. | |
his view. Is he not supposed to be politically neutral? I don't think | :52:30. | :52:38. | |
it is a party political issue, so I don't think it is. He's not | :52:39. | :52:43. | |
commenting on a party political issue. He is giving his view about | :52:44. | :52:46. | |
when President Trump comes to this country and whether he should come | :52:47. | :52:51. | |
to Parliament or not and as Speaker, he is entitled to express his view. | :52:52. | :52:53. | |
Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. | :52:54. | :52:59. | |
Coming up, our exclusive report about a village in Hungary which has | :53:00. | :53:02. | |
banned the wearing of Muslim dress and the call to prayer | :53:03. | :53:04. | |
and public displays of affection by gay couples. | :53:05. | :53:06. | |
It only wants European Christians to move there. | :53:07. | :53:13. | |
Heather says, "The last time I looked, Christianity | :53:14. | :53:15. | |
was all about reaching out to those who need help. | :53:16. | :53:23. | |
This is blatant fear-fuelled racism." | :53:24. | :53:26. | |
Brian says, "Well done this mayor in Hungary. | :53:27. | :53:27. | |
Everyone in the West should follow his example, | :53:28. | :53:29. | |
better still don't let them into the West to start with." | :53:30. | :53:32. | |
As many as 13,000 people have been executed in secret | :53:33. | :53:34. | |
at a prison in Syria, according to Amnesty International. | :53:35. | :53:37. | |
Most of them were opposed to the leader of the country, | :53:38. | :53:39. | |
We can speak now to Karen Allen from Amnesty International. | :53:40. | :53:42. | |
Thank you for coming on the programme and how you know what you | :53:43. | :53:47. | |
know about this prison? It is a huge prison in sir yard and -- Syria and | :53:48. | :53:54. | |
we have under taken research, interviewing 84 people. Now many of | :53:55. | :53:59. | |
those have come out of this area. Others have been guards and worked | :54:00. | :54:03. | |
within the prison and what we have pieced together through all of those | :54:04. | :54:09. | |
interviews is a consistent story that once, sometimes twice a week on | :54:10. | :54:14. | |
a Monday and a Wednesday, 50 men are taken from one part of the prison to | :54:15. | :54:19. | |
another where they are hanged. And that has happened from the beginning | :54:20. | :54:24. | |
of 2011 through to the end of 2015. We don't have information beyond | :54:25. | :54:29. | |
2015 because the people that we interviewed and the dates which they | :54:30. | :54:33. | |
left the prison, but it is an absolutely horrific story and we | :54:34. | :54:36. | |
estimate 13,000 people will have lost their lives in that way. | :54:37. | :54:43. | |
13,000? A former judge who saw the hangings told you they kept them | :54:44. | :54:47. | |
hanging there for ten to 15 minutes. Some didn't die because they are | :54:48. | :54:51. | |
light for. For the young ones their weight wouldn't kill them. The | :54:52. | :54:56. | |
officer's assistants would pull them down and break their next. A former | :54:57. | :55:00. | |
military officer who was also detained at the prison, "If you put | :55:01. | :55:03. | |
your ears on the floor, you could hear the sound of a kind of | :55:04. | :55:08. | |
gurgling. This would last for around ten minutes. We were sleeping on top | :55:09. | :55:11. | |
of the sound of people choking to death. This was normal for me then." | :55:12. | :55:19. | |
One more there, is a former detainee describing alleged abuse, "The | :55:20. | :55:21. | |
beating was so intense it was as if you had a nail and you were trying | :55:22. | :55:25. | |
again and again to beat it into a rock. It was impossible, but they | :55:26. | :55:30. | |
just kept going. I was wishing they would cut off my legs instead of | :55:31. | :55:35. | |
beating them anymore." Why were these people tortured and | :55:36. | :55:42. | |
killed in this way, do you believe? I interviewed Hamid who gave those | :55:43. | :55:47. | |
shockings accounts of being able to hear the executions take place. The | :55:48. | :55:50. | |
people in the prison are overwhelmingly people who have been | :55:51. | :55:55. | |
on demonstrations, students, journalists, doctors, lawyers, | :55:56. | :55:59. | |
anybody who has shown any decent or whom the regime think may show | :56:00. | :56:04. | |
decent and that was Hamid's case. He was a military man. He was suspected | :56:05. | :56:08. | |
that he might show decent at some point and he was arrested and spent | :56:09. | :56:13. | |
sometime in that prison. So these are anybody who shows any means of | :56:14. | :56:18. | |
challenging the Assad Government. Are you saying that President Assad | :56:19. | :56:22. | |
would know this was going on in this jail? We are totally sure that at | :56:23. | :56:29. | |
the very high level of his Government at the level of the | :56:30. | :56:33. | |
Defence Minister, or the head of the Army, that this is known about. We | :56:34. | :56:37. | |
know the names of the people on the execution panels on some of the | :56:38. | :56:42. | |
execution panels, we have given that information to the appropriate UN | :56:43. | :56:46. | |
bodies. Right, but that doesn't mean that Assad knew? I think Assad must | :56:47. | :56:52. | |
know. I think at the highest levels of his Government and if he doesn't | :56:53. | :56:56. | |
know then that is dereliction as well. You know, he can't say, "I | :56:57. | :57:01. | |
just don't know what's going on at this level of abuse." As you've said | :57:02. | :57:07. | |
in some of those comments, it is the executions and that's something that | :57:08. | :57:12. | |
we at Amnesty have exposed, but it is also, there is a policy of | :57:13. | :57:17. | |
extermination going on here. The stories that I heard again and again | :57:18. | :57:23. | |
of relentless torture every day, day in and day out, of hardly any food | :57:24. | :57:29. | |
or any water, no access to medicines, just sheer awful way to | :57:30. | :57:34. | |
treat people and the numbers of people who die in and the way in | :57:35. | :57:38. | |
which bodies are disposed of, we heard that again and again. I'm | :57:39. | :57:41. | |
going to show our audience this picture. It is of a 21-year-old | :57:42. | :57:50. | |
former Syrian detainee. He lives in Stockholm. If you have a look at | :57:51. | :57:57. | |
this, the picture on the left is of Omar taken in January this year in | :57:58. | :58:02. | |
Sweden and obviously the picture on the right is of Omar in July 2015 in | :58:03. | :58:10. | |
Turkey, just a month after he got out of the prisoner Damascus. | :58:11. | :58:20. | |
Clearly, you can see how skelettal he is on the picture on the right. | :58:21. | :58:24. | |
What can you tell us about him? Well, I didn't meet him. I saw the | :58:25. | :58:28. | |
photographs of people from before and when they came out of prison and | :58:29. | :58:34. | |
the conditions and you know, in many cases, the mental conditions too. | :58:35. | :58:39. | |
The devastation that that experience, sometimes going on for | :58:40. | :58:43. | |
years, had had on people. It is a massive prison. It's 20,000. People | :58:44. | :58:48. | |
are packed into rooms. Absolutely packed. They're not allowed to | :58:49. | :58:53. | |
speak. They're not allowed to cry out whilst being tortured or the | :58:54. | :58:58. | |
torture intensifies. There is a real brutality that's quite spine | :58:59. | :59:02. | |
chilling and it is continuing now. I'm sure that those executions are | :59:03. | :59:06. | |
continuing as we speak. So what should happen to President Assad or | :59:07. | :59:10. | |
whoever? Well, what should happen is the UN and Russia in particular | :59:11. | :59:14. | |
should stop blocking progress at the UN. This ought to be, you know, | :59:15. | :59:18. | |
absolutely at the top of the conversations that are taking place | :59:19. | :59:24. | |
about the future of Syria. You know, it cannot be ignored, those | :59:25. | :59:27. | |
executions are taking place I am convinced now still and it is | :59:28. | :59:32. | |
something that there should be much more public outrage about, much more | :59:33. | :59:36. | |
pressure on Assad and certainly our document August's of the abuses that | :59:37. | :59:43. | |
are taking place is thorough. It is absolutely accurate and it will be | :59:44. | :59:47. | |
given to the authorities who I hope can bring Assad to account sooner | :59:48. | :59:51. | |
rather than later. Thank you very much for talking to us. Thank you. | :59:52. | :59:55. | |
Thank you. The latest news and sport is coming | :59:56. | :59:59. | |
up. Before that, the weather. Thanks, Victoria. Some of us have | :00:00. | :00:05. | |
been seeing snow. We've got pictures of the snow. Snow is falling in | :00:06. | :00:21. | |
Inverclyde. The weather is across Scotland and Eastern England. Move | :00:22. | :00:25. | |
away from that and we're into brighter skies and sunshine, but | :00:26. | :00:28. | |
also quite a lot of showers and some of those showers will be heavy and | :00:29. | :00:32. | |
thundery with hail, some sleet possible on the moors and they will | :00:33. | :00:36. | |
be slow moving so you could get a dullge as they fall. So into the | :00:37. | :00:41. | |
afternoon that's the sip air yo across south-west England and South | :00:42. | :00:44. | |
Wales. Here, they will be slow moving and here some of them will be | :00:45. | :00:48. | |
heavy, but in between, we will see brightness or indeed sunshine. | :00:49. | :00:52. | |
Across the central swathe of the UK, again there will be sunshine around. | :00:53. | :00:57. | |
A few showers, but across East Anglia across Eastern England we | :00:58. | :01:00. | |
hang on to dank conditions and a lot of cloud. Some showers in Northern | :01:01. | :01:04. | |
Ireland. Across Scotland in the Grampians and the Highlands and some | :01:05. | :01:09. | |
parts we are looking at snow and sleet across parts of Central | :01:10. | :01:13. | |
Lowlands and into the southern uplands. So it will feel cold fur'ks | :01:14. | :01:17. | |
posed to this. Overnight, we have a weather front in the west producing | :01:18. | :01:22. | |
a lot of cloud and rain, still strong winds particularly across the | :01:23. | :01:25. | |
Northern Isles, but for Western Scotland and Northern Ireland, it | :01:26. | :01:28. | |
will be cold. Widespread frost here and the risk of ice. For England and | :01:29. | :01:32. | |
Wales, with more cloud around, it looks like the frost issue will be | :01:33. | :01:37. | |
fairly patchy. Tomorrow we start off with weather front in the east. | :01:38. | :01:40. | |
Instead of continuing to journey east, it will try and come west | :01:41. | :01:44. | |
again, blocked by that area of high pressure. What's going to happen is | :01:45. | :01:48. | |
that is going to allow cold air to push across our shores in the | :01:49. | :01:53. | |
ensuing days into the weekend as represented here by the blue | :01:54. | :01:54. | |
colours. Tomorrow we have the weather front | :01:55. | :02:04. | |
across eastern areas, producing cloud. Someone to a flurry is | :02:05. | :02:09. | |
possible across parts of England, snow across the Pennines and the | :02:10. | :02:14. | |
Grampians. Toward the West, brighter skies. The temperatures are starting | :02:15. | :02:21. | |
to go down in eastern areas. You notice it more as we head into | :02:22. | :02:25. | |
Thursday, where we have a weather front pushing towards the West. | :02:26. | :02:30. | |
Cloud associated with it, more snow across the Pennines and the | :02:31. | :02:33. | |
Grampians. The brighter skies in the West. | :02:34. | :02:35. | |
An exclusive report by this programme takes a look | :02:36. | :02:41. | |
inside the Hungarian village that is trying to create a white | :02:42. | :02:43. | |
utopia, and wants British people to move there. | :02:44. | :02:48. | |
TRANSLATION: We primarily welcome people from Western Europe who do | :02:49. | :02:55. | |
not want to live in a multicultural society. We would not want to | :02:56. | :02:59. | |
attract Muslim people, even though we have a few Muslim residents. | :03:00. | :03:04. | |
We hear how it is being advertised in the UK as a place to escape | :03:05. | :03:09. | |
multiculturalism. Also on the programme, England's | :03:10. | :03:11. | |
housing market is "broken". That's according to ministers | :03:12. | :03:13. | |
who are launching new plans today Here's what one long-term | :03:14. | :03:15. | |
renter said about what We need a register for the | :03:16. | :03:26. | |
landlords, they decide they just want to up the rent. It is a problem | :03:27. | :03:33. | |
with a type of NIMBY years, if we don't build new homes everywhere, | :03:34. | :03:34. | |
there is a supply and abound issue. We'll also be talking | :03:35. | :03:37. | |
about whether the announcement will make a difference | :03:38. | :03:39. | |
to leaseholders, and an expert and leaseholder will be | :03:40. | :03:41. | |
sharing their thoughts on the plans. And Conservative MPs criticise | :03:42. | :03:44. | |
the Speaker John Bercow for saying in Parliament that Donald Trump | :03:45. | :03:46. | |
would not get his permission to speak to MPs in Westminster Hall | :03:47. | :03:48. | |
during a state visit. Here's the BBC Newsroom | :03:49. | :03:55. | |
with a summary of today's news. The Government is setting | :03:56. | :04:03. | |
out its strategy for fixing what it says is a "broken" housing market | :04:04. | :04:08. | |
in England, and hitting its target of building a million | :04:09. | :04:11. | |
new homes by the year 2020. Plans will include more help | :04:12. | :04:13. | |
for first-time buyers, and measures to make rental | :04:14. | :04:15. | |
agreements more secure. The Speaker of the House | :04:16. | :04:18. | |
of Commons John Bercow has been strongly criticised for speaking out | :04:19. | :04:21. | |
against President Trump addressing MPs and Lords | :04:22. | :04:24. | |
at the Houses of Parliament. Mr Bercow, whose position | :04:25. | :04:27. | |
as Speaker is supposed to be politically neutral, | :04:28. | :04:29. | |
has been accused of overstepping One Tory MP described | :04:30. | :04:32. | |
Mr Bercow's intervention This programme has found that | :04:33. | :04:38. | |
a village in Hungary has banned the wearing of Muslim dress | :04:39. | :04:47. | |
and the call to The mayor of Asotthalom claims to be leading | :04:48. | :04:50. | |
what he calls "the war against Muslim culture", | :04:51. | :04:52. | |
and he hopes to attract other Christian Europeans who object | :04:53. | :04:54. | |
to multiculturalism Some lawyers have said the laws | :04:55. | :04:56. | |
contravene the Hungarian constitution and the government | :04:57. | :04:59. | |
there is due to rule on them Doctors' leaders say it's "crazy" | :05:00. | :05:02. | |
that the UK's standard ten-minute slot for GP consultations is among | :05:03. | :05:09. | |
the shortest in Europe. They say plans to move more care out | :05:10. | :05:12. | |
of hospitals will leave even The Department of Health says it's | :05:13. | :05:15. | |
up to practices to decide how Mark Norman is at a surgery | :05:16. | :05:19. | |
in Whitstable in Kent. How does it work their? With stubble | :05:20. | :05:37. | |
is interesting, it has no District General Hospital, the nearest | :05:38. | :05:40. | |
accident and emergency is 20 miles away, and it has all of the problems | :05:41. | :05:45. | |
everyone does, a huge financial black hole, a growing population, | :05:46. | :05:49. | |
and accident and emergency apartments that are struggling to | :05:50. | :05:55. | |
cope, and bed occupancy way above the safe level of 96%. For GPs it is | :05:56. | :06:01. | |
about how you manage patients better locally and keep them out of the | :06:02. | :06:06. | |
hospitals. If I show you this board, it gives an idea of what they do. | :06:07. | :06:10. | |
This is just a GP practice. They have a my jet -- minor injuries | :06:11. | :06:16. | |
clinic, you see a list of the services. I have been here since | :06:17. | :06:23. | |
8am, they have been ridiculously busy, people coming in with and | :06:24. | :06:27. | |
without appointments. This is the minor injuries clinic. We have the | :06:28. | :06:32. | |
x-ray suite, the upside for GPs who operate here is that if they have a | :06:33. | :06:37. | |
patient with a chest infection, they are not sure if it is something more | :06:38. | :06:41. | |
serious, bring them here, have a look and see whether they need to | :06:42. | :06:46. | |
have a consultation at the hospital. It is a much better patient | :06:47. | :06:51. | |
experience and leads to better outcomes. Jeremy Hunt was here a few | :06:52. | :06:56. | |
weeks ago, Simon Stephens, the boss of the NHS, is coming in the next | :06:57. | :07:01. | |
few weeks. But this costs money and represents a huge investment. Will | :07:02. | :07:07. | |
the NHS be prepared to spend it? It looks impressive. | :07:08. | :07:09. | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC News, more at 10:30am. | :07:10. | :07:16. | |
Thank you if you have got in touch about renting. This is from a | :07:17. | :07:22. | |
landlord in the Midlands, I am finding these attacks very hard to | :07:23. | :07:27. | |
take, I only rent had good quality properties, my houses are fully | :07:28. | :07:34. | |
refurbished. Rent is not set by landlords, it is the market that | :07:35. | :07:37. | |
sets the price. If a landlord increases the price too much, they | :07:38. | :07:41. | |
will not be able to let it. You would expect it to be a product of | :07:42. | :07:44. | |
the purchase price, but it is not the case. In some cases the return | :07:45. | :07:51. | |
on capital is as low as 1%, but in other areas it is 20%. Vanessa said, | :07:52. | :07:56. | |
I rented three houses over five years with my three young children, | :07:57. | :08:01. | |
the most stressful period of my life, you never knew how long it | :08:02. | :08:04. | |
would be before you next had to move, as only -- each property only | :08:05. | :08:11. | |
has a six-month rental agreement. It would cost me money every time I | :08:12. | :08:17. | |
moved, you do not complain because you are afraid of your tenancy not | :08:18. | :08:20. | |
being renewed. Two of the houses were rented out and then the owners | :08:21. | :08:28. | |
decided to sell. There are not enough good quality homes are | :08:29. | :08:29. | |
available to rent where I live. Do get in touch with us | :08:30. | :08:32. | |
throughout the morning. If you text, you will be charged | :08:33. | :08:34. | |
at the standard network rate. Here's some sport | :08:35. | :08:38. | |
now with Will Perry. Joe Root would be a "very different | :08:39. | :08:40. | |
leader" who's willing to take a lot That's the view of Yorkshire | :08:41. | :08:43. | |
coach Andrew Gale. The ECB are considering a successor | :08:44. | :08:46. | |
to Cook, who stepped down yesterday. Gale's told the BBC that Root | :08:47. | :08:49. | |
is ready and the time is right In Joe Root you will have a | :08:50. | :09:03. | |
different leader. He is willing to try things, he is a lot more risky | :09:04. | :09:06. | |
than Alastair Cook. The games that he has captained in Yorkshire, he | :09:07. | :09:14. | |
was not worried about taking risks. He will be a different leader. But | :09:15. | :09:20. | |
when he steps up, he is ready. The time is right for him. | :09:21. | :09:25. | |
Andries Strauss has denied he is the only candidate. | :09:26. | :09:33. | |
Joe Root has been vice captain for a while, he has had some | :09:34. | :09:38. | |
He is a phenomenal cricketer and a very influential person | :09:39. | :09:41. | |
There is no reason why he would not be a strong candidate, | :09:42. | :09:45. | |
but I do not want to rule anyone in or out. | :09:46. | :09:49. | |
Russia will miss the World Championships after the athletics | :09:50. | :09:56. | |
governing body voted to extend their suspension for state-sponsored | :09:57. | :09:59. | |
doping. But some Russians may be up to compete under a neutral banner if | :10:00. | :10:06. | |
they can satisfy testing criteria with Wada. They were suspended in | :10:07. | :10:11. | |
2015, so athletes missed the Olympics last year. | :10:12. | :10:12. | |
We are not going to change the culture of something that has | :10:13. | :10:15. | |
been prominent for 40 or 50 years, and not just simply in Russia. | :10:16. | :10:19. | |
We want to see some sign that there is a cultural shift. | :10:20. | :10:22. | |
We are not going to resubmit the newly-constructed | :10:23. | :10:27. | |
The clear implication is they would appear, if they do, | :10:28. | :10:34. | |
Sir Ben Ainslie... Battle to win the America's Cup has begun with the | :10:35. | :10:49. | |
unveiling of his new boat. They are aiming to bring the trophy back to | :10:50. | :10:55. | |
Britain after 166 years. It was launched in the nude, it was called | :10:56. | :11:01. | |
Rita, the name carried by all of his previous boat. Qualifying for the | :11:02. | :11:03. | |
race begins in May. And, Rafa Nadal will warm up | :11:04. | :11:05. | |
for Wimbledon by playing The 14-time grand-slam champion | :11:06. | :11:07. | |
joins Andy Murray at the event. Nadal had to pull out of the grass | :11:08. | :11:13. | |
event last year due to a wrist injury but won the title back | :11:14. | :11:16. | |
in 2008, before going on to dethrone We will have the headlines at | :11:17. | :11:20. | |
10:30am. This programme can reveal that | :11:21. | :11:29. | |
a village in Hungary which has introduced a bylaw aimed at making | :11:30. | :11:31. | |
it difficult for Muslims and gay people to live | :11:32. | :11:34. | |
there is being advertised in the UK as a place to move to in order to | :11:35. | :11:37. | |
escape multiculturalism and Islam. The group advertising it | :11:38. | :11:40. | |
here is called Knights Templar International, | :11:41. | :11:43. | |
which has links to former British National Party | :11:44. | :11:46. | |
leader Nick Griffin. Our reporter Lesley Ashmall has been | :11:47. | :11:49. | |
to meet the mayor of Asotthalom. Asotthalom, a village on the | :11:50. | :11:58. | |
southern Hungarian plains, just minutes from the Serbian border, | :11:59. | :12:03. | |
where in 2015, 10,000 migrants a day The village population | :12:04. | :12:09. | |
is declining, and The Mayor here wants | :12:10. | :12:14. | |
to attract foreign investors, but not | :12:15. | :12:19. | |
just any foreigner. TRANSLATION: We promote | :12:20. | :12:27. | |
the welcome people from western Europe, people who wouldn't like to | :12:28. | :12:31. | |
live in a multicultural society. We wouldn't like to attract Muslim | :12:32. | :12:33. | |
people in the village. What if I was black, | :12:34. | :12:36. | |
or if I was gay? TRANSLATION: Asotthalom | :12:37. | :12:40. | |
has a bylaw that bans As for your other question, | :12:41. | :12:46. | |
think about this: Europe It can't take in billions of people | :12:47. | :12:54. | |
from Africa and South Asia, where there's | :12:55. | :12:59. | |
a population boom. This would soon lead | :13:00. | :13:01. | |
to the disappearance of Europe. I'd like Europe to | :13:02. | :13:04. | |
belong to Europeans and Asia to belong to Asians, and Africa | :13:05. | :13:07. | |
to Africans, simple as that. He's so serious, he's introduced | :13:08. | :13:15. | |
local legislation banning public displays of affection by gay people, | :13:16. | :13:17. | |
the wearing of Islamic dress like the hijab, and he wants to ban | :13:18. | :13:20. | |
the building of mosques. And his views are being | :13:21. | :13:26. | |
pushed by a British organisation called | :13:27. | :13:28. | |
Knights Templar International. The former British National Party | :13:29. | :13:32. | |
leader Nick Griffin is a member, and the group is | :13:33. | :13:35. | |
advertising smallholdings for sale Hungary is already seen, | :13:36. | :13:42. | |
by more and more West Europeans, as a place of refuge, | :13:43. | :13:49. | |
a place to get away from the help that is about to break | :13:50. | :13:53. | |
loose in western Europe. One of them agree to speak to us, | :13:54. | :13:58. | |
but at the last minute They didn't want to attract | :13:59. | :14:02. | |
attention to themselves. They've spoken of their fears | :14:03. | :14:07. | |
to media in the past, but other villagers reject | :14:08. | :14:09. | |
the laws are a huge concern. However, they are the talk | :14:10. | :14:11. | |
of the village pub. TRANSLATION: Important issues | :14:12. | :14:16. | |
like this should be regulated by the national government, | :14:17. | :14:18. | |
not local legislation. TRANSLATION: If they take | :14:19. | :14:23. | |
off their veil, I'll accept them. It doesn't even matter | :14:24. | :14:25. | |
if they are black. They should become Hungarian | :14:26. | :14:27. | |
citizens, even if they are Are you trying to | :14:28. | :14:30. | |
create a kind of white I don't use this word white, | :14:31. | :14:38. | |
but we are a white, European, Christian population, | :14:39. | :14:45. | |
and we want to stay this, like this, We asked Nick Griffin to talk to us | :14:46. | :14:52. | |
this morning, but he said no. Hungarian journalist | :14:53. | :15:01. | |
Gergely Miklos Nagy was the first There was a widow in which the Mayor | :15:02. | :15:03. | |
of Asotthalom recommend the... His village to the Western European | :15:04. | :15:22. | |
citizens who want to leave the collapsed Western Europe and wants | :15:23. | :15:28. | |
to settle down in a traditionally That was made by the Knights Templar | :15:29. | :15:57. | |
International. The majority of the residents of Asotthalom do not | :15:58. | :15:59. | |
support it. It is just my feeling. We can now talk to Emanuel Coman, | :16:00. | :16:11. | |
a professor at Trinity College Dublin who specialises | :16:12. | :16:13. | |
in the European far right, and Iman Atta from Tell Mama, | :16:14. | :16:15. | |
an organisation that supports Well, one, it is concerning to see | :16:16. | :16:35. | |
that this is happening. Two, that they're actually by-passing laws | :16:36. | :16:37. | |
locally and as the citizens mentioned they wanted something to | :16:38. | :16:40. | |
happen on a national level, but to come with a statement to have a | :16:41. | :16:44. | |
Christian White City and a Christian white Europe is quite concerning. | :16:45. | :16:48. | |
You have Christian blacks. You have so many communities that are | :16:49. | :16:52. | |
Christian as well as you had a Europe which is multi-cultural which | :16:53. | :16:59. | |
is actually strong and in its diversity and multi-culturalism, but | :17:00. | :17:01. | |
not allowing... They're not interested. They want to live with | :17:02. | :17:06. | |
people like them? That corrodes community cohesion. They think | :17:07. | :17:17. | |
multi-culturalism corrodes? The UK has some example of | :17:18. | :17:19. | |
multi-culturalism where it works. It is the best model to look at and | :17:20. | :17:24. | |
what is happening here with multi-culturalism. We are talking | :17:25. | :17:29. | |
about banning the gay community and banning this and banning that. Not | :17:30. | :17:33. | |
banning the gay community because they live there, banning public | :17:34. | :17:41. | |
display of affection? You're being homophobic and that's promoting | :17:42. | :17:44. | |
hatred. That's hatred towards the gay community. Let me bring in the | :17:45. | :17:47. | |
professor. Good morning to you. Tell us about the rise of the far-right | :17:48. | :17:52. | |
across Europe and what you think of this as part of its, I don't know, | :17:53. | :17:59. | |
strategy? It's really hard to tell. What is quite obvious is that | :18:00. | :18:06. | |
Hungary is perceived and the Hungarian Government primarily is | :18:07. | :18:11. | |
perceived as very friendly to the anti-refugee sentiment. Eastern | :18:12. | :18:15. | |
Europeans in general, the governments in Eastern Europe have | :18:16. | :18:19. | |
raised their voices against the EU decision to relocate refugees, but | :18:20. | :18:25. | |
the Prime Minister has been very, very vociferous in this respect. I | :18:26. | :18:32. | |
really couldn't tell whether this is a general phenomenon. It is really | :18:33. | :18:37. | |
odd that such a village in Hungary is trying to attract people under | :18:38. | :18:45. | |
the idea that what really connects all this right-wing extremists is | :18:46. | :18:49. | |
just hatred towards Muslims. They are quite a varied group and as | :18:50. | :18:52. | |
somebody who lived in the United Kingdom for fours years as a | :18:53. | :18:55. | |
Romanian, who lived in the United Kingdom for four years, I can tell | :18:56. | :19:01. | |
you that people like Nick Griffin are not very fond of my people | :19:02. | :19:05. | |
either and by my people I mean Eastern Europeans. So too to | :19:06. | :19:10. | |
actually live under the impression that this Christian white society | :19:11. | :19:17. | |
can have everything in common and no contradictions, it's quite naive. | :19:18. | :19:26. | |
Budapest attracts, has attracted, is attracting a number of far-right | :19:27. | :19:33. | |
politicians besides Nick Griffin, and James Dowson and the Swedish | :19:34. | :19:41. | |
far-right leader has moved there. Is that because of the mood music from | :19:42. | :19:45. | |
the Prime Minister? It is not necessarily that they believe they | :19:46. | :19:50. | |
can legally do certain things because the things that the mayor is | :19:51. | :19:54. | |
trying to implement cannot be legal under the Hungarian law. It is just | :19:55. | :19:57. | |
that they're probably hoping that nobody is going to pursue the | :19:58. | :20:02. | |
legality of their actions. Yes. There is a little bit of I had | :20:03. | :20:09. | |
possibling crassy on part of the leaders because they're not fond of | :20:10. | :20:11. | |
the very institution that allows them to live and settle in Hungary | :20:12. | :20:18. | |
which is the European Union. Nobody asks themselves what is going to | :20:19. | :20:21. | |
happen when Britain is going to leave the euro. How are these guys | :20:22. | :20:28. | |
going to be able to live in Budapest and form the white Christian | :20:29. | :20:33. | |
communities that they want to do in Hungary? Thank you very much | :20:34. | :20:39. | |
professor from Trinity College, Dublin. Thank you. | :20:40. | :20:44. | |
If you want to read more about Asotthalom, you can find it on the | :20:45. | :20:48. | |
BBC News website. The Government is | :20:49. | :20:58. | |
said to be shocked. Some conservative MPs | :20:59. | :20:59. | |
are very, very angry. We don't know what Donald Trump | :21:00. | :21:01. | |
thinks because he hasn't tweeted on the subject of addressing | :21:02. | :21:04. | |
parliament during his state visit to Britain but we do know | :21:05. | :21:06. | |
that the Speaker John Bercow has caused quite a fuss by saying very | :21:07. | :21:09. | |
openly and very assertively that the president would not | :21:10. | :21:12. | |
get his permission to speak to MPs We value our relationship with the | :21:13. | :21:19. | |
United States. If a state visit takes place that is way beyond and | :21:20. | :21:27. | |
above the pay grade of the Speaker. However, as far as this place is | :21:28. | :21:36. | |
concerned, I feel very strongly that our opposition to racism and to | :21:37. | :21:42. | |
sexism and our support for equality before the law and an independent | :21:43. | :21:48. | |
judiciary are hugely important considerations in the House of | :21:49. | :21:54. | |
Commons. APPLAUSE | :21:55. | :21:55. | |
Our political guru Norman Smith has more. | :21:56. | :22:03. | |
How much trouble is he in? MPs will raise with Mr Bercow when he is in | :22:04. | :22:11. | |
the chair in the Commons down there, his comments yesterday and many, | :22:12. | :22:15. | |
many, Tories are furious because they say it is not his job to make | :22:16. | :22:19. | |
such sort of overt political comments. More than that, he has | :22:20. | :22:25. | |
scuppered Mrs May's attempts to forge closer ties with President | :22:26. | :22:30. | |
Trump and they say look, it is the Speaker's job to reflect in an | :22:31. | :22:35. | |
impartial manner and in a non partisan manner the wishes of | :22:36. | :22:38. | |
Parliament. Not to go off on his own and start attacking Donald Trump for | :22:39. | :22:41. | |
race ym and sexism. So I think we will see quite a bit of criticism. | :22:42. | :22:45. | |
What's not clear to me though, is whether there is anything that can | :22:46. | :22:51. | |
actually be done about it because I mean, you know, hypothetically MPs | :22:52. | :22:55. | |
could put down a motion of no confidence in the Speaker. Now, | :22:56. | :22:58. | |
that's, you know, extremely unlikely. Its almost unprecedented, | :22:59. | :23:03. | |
but short of that, there is not much that can be done to unpick Mr | :23:04. | :23:10. | |
Bercow's decision which basically blocks Donald Trump from addressing | :23:11. | :23:15. | |
Parliament. One Tory MP was suggesting that Mr Bercow should | :23:16. | :23:16. | |
think about his position. In many ways he has been a great | :23:17. | :23:27. | |
Speaker for back benchesers like myself because he has given us the | :23:28. | :23:30. | |
opportunity to ask urgent questions and gave us enough time for | :23:31. | :23:33. | |
statements. He has been a great Speaker. I just think becoming the | :23:34. | :23:40. | |
story, using the great institution of the Speaker's, you know, office | :23:41. | :23:49. | |
to make such a political stand is unwise unfortunately. I don't feel | :23:50. | :23:54. | |
comfortable with it. Meanwhile, Downing Street are just | :23:55. | :23:58. | |
trying to stay out of this, but you know they will be grinding their | :23:59. | :24:03. | |
teeth in fury because after all that painstaking work, all that hand | :24:04. | :24:08. | |
holding with Donald Trump now, the Speaker has delivered what bluntly | :24:09. | :24:13. | |
amounts to a fairly public rebuke, even diplomatic snub to President | :24:14. | :24:20. | |
Trump and so ministers, you know, while understandably furious, in | :24:21. | :24:24. | |
public have been adopting a more cautious response. Listen to the | :24:25. | :24:26. | |
Cabinet Minister. Well, anyone who knows the Speaker | :24:27. | :24:34. | |
knows he will speak his mind. Whoever is the president of the | :24:35. | :24:36. | |
United States is someone that we want it get on with it and wet want | :24:37. | :24:41. | |
to work hard with and inviting them to the UK is a sensible thing to do. | :24:42. | :24:47. | |
REPORTER: Are you happy to see John Bercow in the chair in the Commons? | :24:48. | :24:52. | |
I'm happy with whoever is in the chair in the Commons. | :24:53. | :25:01. | |
I think what we saw from Speaker Bercow yesterday was all part and | :25:02. | :25:07. | |
parcel of what has become almost central to his whole Speakership. He | :25:08. | :25:12. | |
sees himself as a reforming Speaker. Someone who is dragging this place | :25:13. | :25:18. | |
out of the 19th century. He got rid a lot of Kos sums and tried to bring | :25:19. | :25:23. | |
in outsiders and I mean, just before he made his comments yesterday he | :25:24. | :25:26. | |
was talking about ending the practise of Commons clerks having to | :25:27. | :25:31. | |
wear wigs in Parliament and I think when he attacked Donald Trump for | :25:32. | :25:36. | |
racism and sexism, in part, he took the view that those sort of | :25:37. | :25:40. | |
attitudes were totally counter to the sort of image of Parliament | :25:41. | :25:44. | |
which he wants to convey. So in a way, it fitted into his whole sort | :25:45. | :25:48. | |
of reform agenda of trying to drag Parliament into the modern world. | :25:49. | :25:50. | |
Cheers, Norman. Alistair Carmicheal | :25:51. | :25:57. | |
is a Liberal Democrat MP who thinks Mr Bercow was entitled to say | :25:58. | :26:00. | |
what he did-and James Duddridge a Conservative MP thinks this | :26:01. | :26:03. | |
was not a row he should have jumped I am losing confidence in him. It | :26:04. | :26:11. | |
was inappropriate for him to take a highly political and partisan view. | :26:12. | :26:15. | |
It is for the House of Commons to make decisions on policy and he | :26:16. | :26:20. | |
endangers his own ability to from the chair approach jaout date on a | :26:21. | :26:24. | |
non partisan basis. I think this perhaps is one step too far for this | :26:25. | :26:30. | |
modernising Speaker. Mr Carmichael, you're smiling in disagreement? | :26:31. | :26:34. | |
Well, indeed. Look, I understand that yesterday was quite a moment. | :26:35. | :26:37. | |
We've not really seen anything like this in the past, but we live in | :26:38. | :26:41. | |
extraordinary times and I think you have to keep it in a little bit of | :26:42. | :26:45. | |
context here. The context is of course, that Theresa May, spooked by | :26:46. | :26:49. | |
seeing Nigel Farage pictured with Donald Trump in the early days | :26:50. | :26:54. | |
following his election win in November, went charging across, | :26:55. | :26:58. | |
seven days into his office as president and offered up a state | :26:59. | :27:03. | |
visit. Now, there is no precedent for that and yes, you know, you have | :27:04. | :27:08. | |
to see the context of... He is a democratic... He is a divisive | :27:09. | :27:13. | |
character. He is a democratically elected president. Why shouldn't he | :27:14. | :27:16. | |
address people like yourselves at Westminster? He is a democratically | :27:17. | :27:21. | |
elected, but he has been elected on a platform which does include | :27:22. | :27:26. | |
elements of racism and which does pander to racist elements. We have | :27:27. | :27:31. | |
seen the way in which he has been an apologist to President Putin in | :27:32. | :27:35. | |
recent days and I think it's quite right that the Speaker of the House | :27:36. | :27:39. | |
of Commons should be in a position to say Theresa May may speak for the | :27:40. | :27:42. | |
Government, but she doesn't speak for the whole country. Alistair, | :27:43. | :27:48. | |
that's not what he was saying. He was purporting his views. He wasn't | :27:49. | :27:51. | |
say Theresa May doesn't speak for Parliament. He was saying he was | :27:52. | :27:55. | |
speaking for Parliament. If he stood up and said that Parliament should | :27:56. | :28:00. | |
make a decision, you and I should have a vote on whether we should | :28:01. | :28:03. | |
invite Donald Trump. I would entirely agree with you. But that's | :28:04. | :28:08. | |
not what he did yesterday. You and I both know that fact in you go back | :28:09. | :28:18. | |
to Irskine May. One is impartiality and one is authority. He has vested | :28:19. | :28:21. | |
in him the authority of Parliament to speak on these matters. I think | :28:22. | :28:25. | |
that's what he did and I think he was quite right to stand up for | :28:26. | :28:29. | |
Parliament and to say to Government, that look, you're not just going to | :28:30. | :28:33. | |
take us for granted, there is a range of views here. What you did | :28:34. | :28:37. | |
was premature in offering a state visit. Donald Trump can visit the | :28:38. | :28:41. | |
United Kingdom without it being a state visit and without all the pomp | :28:42. | :28:47. | |
and pageantry that goes with that. That's something that's worth | :28:48. | :28:50. | |
bearing in mind. Indeed, he can have a state visit without coming to | :28:51. | :28:53. | |
Parliament or indeed, he can come to Parliament on the invitation of an | :28:54. | :28:57. | |
individual MP or a group of MPs. He doesn't need permission to come into | :28:58. | :29:01. | |
Parliament. He needs the permission to use Westminster Hallment Speaker | :29:02. | :29:05. | |
Bercow didn't consult the Lord Speaker. Maybe the undemocratically | :29:06. | :29:09. | |
elected members of the House of Lords will end up inviting him! All | :29:10. | :29:13. | |
these things are possible, but you know, I think it's good that we can | :29:14. | :29:17. | |
have this conversation because I think up until this point, our | :29:18. | :29:21. | |
standing in the world stage has really been diminished by the fact | :29:22. | :29:26. | |
that Theresa May chose to go chasing after Donald Trump and the world can | :29:27. | :29:29. | |
now see by good means or ill in fact there is more than one view here in | :29:30. | :29:33. | |
this. Obama said we would be at the back of the queue. We were at the | :29:34. | :29:36. | |
front of the queue to get into the White House. And Theresa May secured | :29:37. | :29:43. | |
big concessions on Nato, that reassured our European partners on | :29:44. | :29:46. | |
the border of Russia. She couldn't get Donald Trump to talk about them. | :29:47. | :29:50. | |
She had to talk about them. Remember, when you're talking about | :29:51. | :29:53. | |
deals... Concessions are concessions. Donald Trump said ta | :29:54. | :29:56. | |
the deals that he's interested in are ones that are good for America. | :29:57. | :29:59. | |
That put America first. Is that really the sort of deal that you | :30:00. | :30:02. | |
want for Britain? One that puts America first? Well, there is mutual | :30:03. | :30:08. | |
interest in a stable Europe, there is a mutual Europe and a prosperous | :30:09. | :30:14. | |
Europe. We can look beyond those narrow interests. Shall I tell you | :30:15. | :30:21. | |
what a couple of taxpayers say. Denise said, "Mr Bercow showed no | :30:22. | :30:25. | |
neutrality. Considering his position requires him to be neutral and | :30:26. | :30:29. | |
impartial, he let down his office and he should step down. He is a | :30:30. | :30:34. | |
disgrace." Liz said, "The Speaker has shown his true identity." David | :30:35. | :30:41. | |
says, "Claerng on Brexit and John Bercow on Trump. Two voices of | :30:42. | :30:43. | |
reason here. There is a wide range of views, and | :30:44. | :30:53. | |
that is good. We live in a society where there ought to be a plurality | :30:54. | :30:56. | |
of views, and one thing that concerns me is that seems to be the | :30:57. | :31:05. | |
sense that if you do not take the same view as somebody who has a | :31:06. | :31:10. | |
different opinion from you, you are somehow being a traitor or betraying | :31:11. | :31:15. | |
or working from some unworthy motive. We should be relaxed with | :31:16. | :31:20. | |
the fact that there is more than one view, and that is what the world | :31:21. | :31:23. | |
sees as they see our democracy functioning. This has left the | :31:24. | :31:28. | |
Speaker diminished, I suspect if there was an open election he would | :31:29. | :31:32. | |
not get elected, and if a candidate stood, I suspect Alistair Carmichael | :31:33. | :31:38. | |
would support me. Why can't the Speaker speak their | :31:39. | :31:43. | |
mind's Donald Trump does. That is what Brendan says. Somebody says, | :31:44. | :31:49. | |
John Bercow does not speak for the whole of the UK, and the world needs | :31:50. | :31:54. | |
to give Donald Trump a decent chance of being president. One person says, | :31:55. | :31:59. | |
the Speaker is speaking his mind, like Donald Trump, what is the | :32:00. | :32:00. | |
problem? The average house now costs eight | :32:01. | :32:03. | |
times the average salary. Loads of you getting in touch. Barry | :32:04. | :32:16. | |
says, I do not understand white people in their 20s and 30s should | :32:17. | :32:23. | |
own a house -- I do not understand why. It was not until my 40s that I | :32:24. | :32:26. | |
even thought about buying a property. Your views are welcome, we | :32:27. | :32:30. | |
will talk about it again. The UK Government is in court today | :32:31. | :32:33. | |
over arms sales to Saudi Arabia, weapons which it's claimed | :32:34. | :32:36. | |
are being used in air strikes With the news, here's Joanna | :32:37. | :32:39. | |
in the BBC Newsroom. The Government is setting | :32:40. | :32:45. | |
out its strategy for fixing what it says is a "broken" housing market | :32:46. | :32:50. | |
in England and hitting its target of building a million | :32:51. | :32:53. | |
new homes by the year 2020. Plans will include more help | :32:54. | :32:55. | |
for first-time buyers, and measures to make rental | :32:56. | :32:58. | |
agreements more secure. The judge in the Rolf Harris trial | :32:59. | :33:11. | |
says the jury can now give a majority verdict they cannot reach a | :33:12. | :33:15. | |
unanimous agreement. He faces six counts of indecent assault and one | :33:16. | :33:19. | |
of sexual assault. The jury has been considering its verdict since last | :33:20. | :33:20. | |
Wednesday. This programme has found that | :33:21. | :33:24. | |
a village in Hungary has banned the wearing of Muslim dress | :33:25. | :33:27. | |
and the call to prayer. The mayor of Asotthalom claims to be | :33:28. | :33:29. | |
leading what he calls "the war against Muslim culture", | :33:30. | :33:32. | |
and he hopes to attract other Christian Europeans | :33:33. | :33:34. | |
who object to multiculturalism Some lawyers have said the laws | :33:35. | :33:36. | |
contravene the Hungarian constitution and the government | :33:37. | :33:39. | |
there is due to rule on them Join me for BBC | :33:40. | :33:42. | |
Newsroom Live at 11am. England are searching for a new Test | :33:43. | :33:59. | |
match captain, with Alastair Cook stepping down after 59 matches in | :34:00. | :34:04. | |
charge. Joe Root is the standout favourite. His coach at Yorkshire | :34:05. | :34:09. | |
says he would take more risks than Alastair Cook if he gets the job. | :34:10. | :34:13. | |
Alastair Cook hopes to still play for England, he is their highest run | :34:14. | :34:18. | |
scorer in Test match cricket, and his appearances and centuries are | :34:19. | :34:22. | |
also national records. Russian athletes will not compete at | :34:23. | :34:26. | |
the World Championships in London. They have been serving a suspension | :34:27. | :34:29. | |
after state-sponsored doping was uncovered. The IAAF have voted to | :34:30. | :34:34. | |
good to knew the ban, but some Russian athletes could still compete | :34:35. | :34:37. | |
as neutrals. Rafa Nadal will warm up for | :34:38. | :34:42. | |
Wimbledon by playing at Queen's Club in June. The 14 time Grand Slam | :34:43. | :34:46. | |
champion joins Andy Murray at the event. | :34:47. | :34:49. | |
More sport on BBC News through the day. | :34:50. | :34:52. | |
Next, David Beckham and his quest for a knighthood. | :34:53. | :34:54. | |
And how damaging is the story, now running into a fourth | :34:55. | :34:58. | |
The sister company of a PR firm that represents David Beckham has | :34:59. | :35:02. | |
confirmed it was subject to a blackmail attempt. | :35:03. | :35:04. | |
A hacker is believed to have demanded money in return for not | :35:05. | :35:07. | |
publishing stolen emails between Beckham and PR | :35:08. | :35:09. | |
A spokesperson for ex-England captain Beckham, 41, | :35:10. | :35:15. | |
said the emails were "hacked", "doctored" and "private". | :35:16. | :35:17. | |
Has the story changed the way you view David Beckham in any way? | :35:18. | :35:22. | |
Joining us now from Sussex is Mark Llewelyn Slade, | :35:23. | :35:24. | |
who runs a company called Awards Intelligence, | :35:25. | :35:26. | |
which claims to help people win awards and nominations. | :35:27. | :35:37. | |
How does it start, the quest to get a knighthood? You have to be In It | :35:38. | :35:45. | |
To Win It, but people cannot put themselves forward, so they rely on | :35:46. | :35:47. | |
their friends and family and business contacts to nominate them. | :35:48. | :35:56. | |
Do you fill in a form? Yes, it is a fairly long and detailed form to do | :35:57. | :36:03. | |
well. What sort of questions you ask's you can knock out a nomination | :36:04. | :36:07. | |
on a wet Sunday afternoon, but is it going to cut it at the Cabinet | :36:08. | :36:11. | |
Office? We estimate they get 20,000 nominations every year, and between | :36:12. | :36:19. | |
two and 2500 are successful, so a little over 10%. It is worth taking | :36:20. | :36:23. | |
the trouble to do it right and properly. Often apathy sets in and | :36:24. | :36:28. | |
friends and family never quite get round to doing it, which is a shame. | :36:29. | :36:35. | |
You need evidence of what charity work? What else? The million-dollar | :36:36. | :36:42. | |
question is, have the nominee gone above and beyond the call of duty? | :36:43. | :36:47. | |
People do not usually get honours for simply doing their job. They | :36:48. | :36:51. | |
must have excelled at something, whether that be community and | :36:52. | :36:56. | |
charity work, or whether they are an eminent doctor, business leader, | :36:57. | :37:01. | |
lawyer or celebrity. David Beckham has already got an honour, I think | :37:02. | :37:06. | |
it is an OBJ, but he wants a knighthood. How do you get that? The | :37:07. | :37:11. | |
level of honour is driven primarily other geographical spread of the | :37:12. | :37:17. | |
person's influence. Somebody operating at a local level, like a | :37:18. | :37:22. | |
Scout leader or a women's Institute person, would be at the lower end, | :37:23. | :37:29. | |
perhaps ADE M or maybe an MBA. But somebody known nationally or | :37:30. | :37:33. | |
internationally as a leader in their field would tend to be at the mid-to | :37:34. | :37:48. | |
high end. It is about geographical spread at the end of the day. Do you | :37:49. | :37:49. | |
think his brand has been damaged in his quest for a knighthood? I think | :37:50. | :37:51. | |
we have to say it has been or it is likely to be damaged. I am not sure | :37:52. | :37:55. | |
he can weather the storm here on this one. But only time can tell. It | :37:56. | :38:01. | |
must be difficult for the Cabinet Office to give him a knighthood | :38:02. | :38:05. | |
after everything that has been supposedly done and said over the | :38:06. | :38:11. | |
last few days. It should be interesting. | :38:12. | :38:16. | |
The Government is setting out its strategy for fixing what it | :38:17. | :38:18. | |
says is a "broken" housing market in England and hitting its target | :38:19. | :38:21. | |
of building a million new homes by the year 2020. | :38:22. | :38:24. | |
Plans will include more help for first-time buyers, | :38:25. | :38:25. | |
and measures to make rental agreements more secure. | :38:26. | :38:31. | |
It's a shift for the Conservative Government to focus on renting and, | :38:32. | :38:33. | |
perhaps, an acknowledgement that with the average house costing eight | :38:34. | :38:36. | |
times the average salary, some of us will never be able | :38:37. | :38:38. | |
Let's talk now to Anne Baxendale, the head of policy at Shelter, | :38:39. | :38:43. | |
James Saunders from Quintain, who have today announced they're | :38:44. | :38:45. | |
building the UK's biggest build-to-rent project, | :38:46. | :38:50. | |
and Lord Kerslake, chair of the Peabody Trust, | :38:51. | :38:52. | |
No, he is not joining us. Tell us about your project. 5000 homes owned | :38:53. | :39:09. | |
at the rental market. Will anybody be able to afford them? Absolutely, | :39:10. | :39:15. | |
we see a wide range of people living in our rental properties, we have | :39:16. | :39:19. | |
some already, doctors, nurses, local people. It is not just for the | :39:20. | :39:24. | |
young, it is for families, for older people. Why are you doing this? You | :39:25. | :39:32. | |
are in it to make money. You say it is affordable? We can build faster | :39:33. | :39:38. | |
and we can build more homes if we have the rental model. We have built | :39:39. | :39:43. | |
to sell in the past, now we are building specifically for the rental | :39:44. | :39:46. | |
market, which we think is an important market for London. It is | :39:47. | :39:50. | |
part of the solution. What is in it for you? We can manage not just the | :39:51. | :39:58. | |
houses but the wider estate, we are building an 86 acre estate, and we | :39:59. | :40:02. | |
can create a great living environment for the long term, the | :40:03. | :40:05. | |
best place to live in London. What is in it for you? Rent, but the key | :40:06. | :40:11. | |
is that we have a professional rental company. We are professional | :40:12. | :40:16. | |
landlords. Our tenants do not pay any fees on the way in, they do not | :40:17. | :40:22. | |
pay in victory fees, they do not pay agencies, and they get a package, | :40:23. | :40:27. | |
including broadband... I feel like I am missing something. Or is this as | :40:28. | :40:33. | |
good as you are claiming it to be? It is an important part of the | :40:34. | :40:37. | |
picture in terms of providing new supply, but we need to be clear on | :40:38. | :40:40. | |
the scale, we have 11 million renters. We are talking about Ilda | :40:41. | :40:47. | |
to rent in the tens of thousands. This is helpful, and we welcome any | :40:48. | :40:51. | |
landlord who is interested in providing good conditions, longer | :40:52. | :40:55. | |
tenancies, and giving a good home to tenants. But the scale is very | :40:56. | :41:00. | |
small, Winnie to be realistic. What we need is change for the 11 million | :41:01. | :41:06. | |
tenants living in private rented homes now. That change would include | :41:07. | :41:12. | |
what? We want longer tenancies. Five-year tenancies for people who | :41:13. | :41:18. | |
are renting now, and particularly in acknowledgement of the fact that we | :41:19. | :41:22. | |
have many more families renting with children and many more older people, | :41:23. | :41:26. | |
so the old stereotype of renting from two or three decades ago, of | :41:27. | :41:32. | |
young students in a bedsit on their way to getting a mortgage and just | :41:33. | :41:36. | |
passing through, that is no longer applicable, it is a typically | :41:37. | :41:41. | |
different market. That is right. We are setting out to be a professional | :41:42. | :41:46. | |
landlord. The London market has been dominated by by to let, people who | :41:47. | :41:51. | |
have chosen to be landlords for a short period of time, but we are a | :41:52. | :41:56. | |
professional landlord, it is what you see in America and continental | :41:57. | :42:00. | |
Europe, the people that put the tenant and customer service first. | :42:01. | :42:05. | |
At the moment we see demand is typically for a year to 18 months, | :42:06. | :42:10. | |
but we are very open to longer tenancies. We will move with the | :42:11. | :42:13. | |
market, and that is an important point, this is the beginning of a | :42:14. | :42:18. | |
change in the marketplace. People have been talking about this in | :42:19. | :42:21. | |
London for a long time, but it isn't just beginning now, and we are at | :42:22. | :42:26. | |
the forefront of it. We expect the market to change and mature, but we | :42:27. | :42:34. | |
set up do that. We do not know the details of the formal policy | :42:35. | :42:36. | |
document, it is being announced at lunchtime. But the wording we think | :42:37. | :42:44. | |
so far is that there will be an incentive to landlords to offer | :42:45. | :42:47. | |
minimum tenancies. What might that mean? We welcome the shift in tone, | :42:48. | :42:53. | |
it is important that the Government is talking about renters. It is | :42:54. | :42:58. | |
quite a big change. That needs to be acknowledged. Incentives are | :42:59. | :43:03. | |
unlikely to be enough. We need much bolder action to tenants. We have | :43:04. | :43:10. | |
families raising children in a home where they can be evicted for no | :43:11. | :43:15. | |
reason on two months' notice. Even if they are not evicted, they have | :43:16. | :43:19. | |
to live with that uncertainty. When they have children at school nearby, | :43:20. | :43:25. | |
the challenge of finding a new home that will accept children that is | :43:26. | :43:29. | |
near the school. This is a reality for many people, and what we need is | :43:30. | :43:34. | |
much bolder action that applies to all tenants, and not just very slow | :43:35. | :43:42. | |
reform. For people who are raising children now in a private rented | :43:43. | :43:45. | |
home, they cannot wait ten or 20 years for the change. But we would | :43:46. | :43:51. | |
hope to see from the Government is something that helps those people | :43:52. | :43:57. | |
right now and meet the scale of the ambition that they have set out over | :43:58. | :44:01. | |
the past few days. Charlotte says, I have rented for five years, I have | :44:02. | :44:06. | |
moved six times. The link in Cambridge, it is a struggle, the | :44:07. | :44:11. | |
house I live in cost the same as my monthly wages. My partner and I add | :44:12. | :44:16. | |
30 have always had to have a housemate, and cannot even think | :44:17. | :44:21. | |
about a family or our future yet. Landlords can charge what they like | :44:22. | :44:24. | |
and there are no limits or guidance for house size, etc. Thank you. | :44:25. | :44:34. | |
The Government says today's announcements will also include | :44:35. | :44:36. | |
"a range of measures to tackle all unfair and unreasonable | :44:37. | :44:38. | |
We don't yet know the detail, but there are hints they will act | :44:39. | :44:42. | |
to tackle spiralling ground rents and freeholds being traded | :44:43. | :44:44. | |
Leaseholds are one of the fastest-growing types of home | :44:45. | :44:49. | |
ownership in England and Wales, but in many cases leaseholders | :44:50. | :44:51. | |
are stung for thousands of pounds in unexpected costs, | :44:52. | :44:54. | |
as we highlighted in an exclusive report by our reporter | :44:55. | :44:57. | |
Thousands of homeowners are having the ground beneath them sold off and | :44:58. | :45:09. | |
they may not even know about it. What do we want? Homes for Britain, | :45:10. | :45:17. | |
now! New homes are going up across the country. Many are leasehold, not | :45:18. | :45:22. | |
freehold, and the difference is crucial. The new trend is for | :45:23. | :45:25. | |
developers to sell freehold to investment companies. Here is what | :45:26. | :45:31. | |
is happening. A developer builds a house. It sells that house to this | :45:32. | :45:39. | |
couple. But what it sold is the least to the house, that is time in | :45:40. | :45:44. | |
it. A couple of years later, the developer can then sell the | :45:45. | :45:47. | |
freehold, the ground that it is on, to an investment company. It is a | :45:48. | :45:52. | |
way of making money on the same house twice. This whole business is | :45:53. | :45:56. | |
worth hundreds of millions of pounds every year to the developers. | :45:57. | :46:02. | |
I had no idea that my home was used as an trk stream for an investor. | :46:03. | :46:13. | |
Katie was never told her freehold would be sold off. Where did they | :46:14. | :46:20. | |
get the figure from? I have no idea. It doesn't seem ethically right to | :46:21. | :46:24. | |
me at all. I'm not a cashpoint for somebody else and I never realised | :46:25. | :46:29. | |
that I could be used as such. What Bellway are doing isn't illegal. | :46:30. | :46:33. | |
Some of their buyers just feel they weren't clear about their plans. We | :46:34. | :46:38. | |
asked them to comment, but they did not respond. I feel guilty for my | :46:39. | :46:42. | |
family that I've made that wrong decision, you know, it pite not | :46:43. | :46:47. | |
impact on my in my lifetime, but you buy a home for your children to have | :46:48. | :46:50. | |
and you know, to give them something, you know and it's a | :46:51. | :46:54. | |
massive burden to leave for your children. How much difference will | :46:55. | :46:59. | |
today's announcement make to leaseholders? | :47:00. | :47:08. | |
We can now speak to Sebastian O'Kelly from the group | :47:09. | :47:10. | |
Leasehold Knowledge Partnership, who's also a former | :47:11. | :47:12. | |
property journalist, and Clair Scott, who is in Salford. | :47:13. | :47:14. | |
She bought a new-build leasehold property in Bolton, | :47:15. | :47:16. | |
but later encountered many of the issues also experienced | :47:17. | :47:18. | |
Tell us about this property. You didn't realise you bought a interest | :47:19. | :47:25. | |
that would see the ground rent shoot up? No, that's right. We bought a | :47:26. | :47:31. | |
house back in 2011 from a national home builder. They offered us some | :47:32. | :47:37. | |
money to help us get on to the property ladder because we didn't | :47:38. | :47:42. | |
have enough deposit. The whole process went really, really well and | :47:43. | :47:46. | |
then fast forward to 2016 last year we came to sell the house and it | :47:47. | :47:51. | |
fell through at the last minute because of the ground rent clause | :47:52. | :47:55. | |
that the buyer's solicitors came across and basically that says that | :47:56. | :48:02. | |
we pay ?295 a year, but then it doubles every ten years. Until it | :48:03. | :48:13. | |
gets to ?9440 a year by 2060. Those solicitors told the buyers that the | :48:14. | :48:18. | |
house was not saleable and the lease was too onerous and not to buy it. | :48:19. | :48:23. | |
The house sale fell through. We've inquired about purchasing the | :48:24. | :48:28. | |
freehold. Again, from an entity we don't know who is behind it, it is | :48:29. | :48:33. | |
just whoever the home builder sold it on to, we don't know who owns our | :48:34. | :48:37. | |
freehold. While you were in the house, the developer sold the | :48:38. | :48:40. | |
freehold without you knowing anything about it? I think it | :48:41. | :48:43. | |
happened a couple of years after we bought the house. They just sold it | :48:44. | :48:47. | |
on to an investment company. No one would have thought anything of it | :48:48. | :48:55. | |
until now. Until when you ask to buy it, the cheapest we have got it to | :48:56. | :49:01. | |
is ?40,000. Right. So what impact does this have on you? Well, we | :49:02. | :49:07. | |
can't sell our house. If we were to sell it, we need to get rid of the | :49:08. | :49:11. | |
lease issue and to do that you've got to buy the freehold at ?40,000. | :49:12. | :49:15. | |
Either way, you look at it, we've lost 25% of the value of our house. | :49:16. | :49:19. | |
So do you think you will be there, you will be in that house now or | :49:20. | :49:24. | |
what? No there, is what makes it worse. Back in September, when we | :49:25. | :49:30. | |
had a house buyer, our buyers were pretty much moved in. They ordered | :49:31. | :49:34. | |
furniture. They had got trades men all lined up to come and do | :49:35. | :49:38. | |
modifications and it only fell through at the last minute and we | :49:39. | :49:44. | |
had already completed on our next house because I'm actually heavily | :49:45. | :49:48. | |
pregnant and we were looking to move to another house in an area where | :49:49. | :49:52. | |
the schools where we wanted our child to be. So, it literally was a | :49:53. | :49:58. | |
case of, there was about five days difference between us buying our | :49:59. | :50:02. | |
house and our house sale falling through. So for us, we're absolutely | :50:03. | :50:08. | |
financially crippled. Riddled with worry because we have this, what | :50:09. | :50:13. | |
should be an asset that we have been putting money into for five years is | :50:14. | :50:17. | |
now actually a massive financial burden. Let me bring in Sebastian. | :50:18. | :50:29. | |
It is a scandal? This Plc house builders selling these leasehold | :50:30. | :50:38. | |
houses, 8755 of them sold and hapless first-time buyers, coming | :50:39. | :50:45. | |
off short-term tenancy go and buy the leasehold products and then go | :50:46. | :50:50. | |
and find the onerous ground rent terms. And their solicitors not | :50:51. | :50:53. | |
doing the job that they're supposed to do? Many of them have bought with | :50:54. | :51:01. | |
solicitors recommended. I can't stress this strongly, do not ever | :51:02. | :51:04. | |
employ a solicitor recommended by a developer. Always choose a different | :51:05. | :51:10. | |
one. That in itself is disqualification. Is the Government | :51:11. | :51:14. | |
going to clampdown on this? It will be addressed in the White Paper. The | :51:15. | :51:17. | |
Housing Minister talked about it last week. I don't think there will | :51:18. | :51:23. | |
be legislative action banning leasehold houses. There are certain | :51:24. | :51:28. | |
circumstances where you've got to build leasehold houses where a | :51:29. | :51:30. | |
developers doesn't own the land for example, but as a practise, I think | :51:31. | :51:35. | |
it will be strongly discouraged, one of the main Plc house builders has | :51:36. | :51:40. | |
stopped doing it from 1st January as a result of our efforts. Good. | :51:41. | :51:44. | |
Others have got to follow. The Help To Buy scheme where taxpayers are | :51:45. | :51:49. | |
under writing people's mortgages to buy these flawed, predatory products | :51:50. | :51:54. | |
will also have, it is something that ministers can do just to stop that. | :51:55. | :51:57. | |
I think throughout your programme, the one thing that hasn't been | :51:58. | :52:01. | |
brought up in the housing is that English housing, UK generally, but | :52:02. | :52:05. | |
English housing, has this awful speculative element to it of a get | :52:06. | :52:10. | |
rich quick element in housing and in leasehold, you see this very | :52:11. | :52:16. | |
clearly. We're told that freeholds are own by pension funds. Rubbish. | :52:17. | :52:21. | |
Many of them are owned by shady companies, where the directors are | :52:22. | :52:26. | |
hidden by nominee directors or they are owe owned off-shore. It is this | :52:27. | :52:29. | |
speculative element that's got to end in British property. | :52:30. | :52:34. | |
Well, thank you for making that point. | :52:35. | :52:45. | |
The High Court in London has begun considering a case aimed at stopping | :52:46. | :52:54. | |
British arms being used by Saudi Arabia to attack Yemen. | :52:55. | :52:58. | |
An estimated 10,000 people have been killed in Yemen, | :52:59. | :53:03. | |
most by Saudi led airstrike, resulting in Britain being accused | :53:04. | :53:05. | |
The United Nations estimates that at least 10,000 people have been | :53:06. | :53:09. | |
killed in the war in Yemen between Houthi rebels | :53:10. | :53:11. | |
and the Saudi-led coalition supporting the government. | :53:12. | :53:25. | |
Which is Fergus? I'm Fergus. Tell us about your trip and what you saw? | :53:26. | :53:31. | |
The scale of humanitarian is off the chart. There are ten million | :53:32. | :53:34. | |
children in need of international humanitarian assistance. I went | :53:35. | :53:38. | |
around a hospital in the north of the country. Our feet crunched on | :53:39. | :53:43. | |
broken glass because the windows of the hospital are constantly blown | :53:44. | :53:48. | |
out. I think, we can show our audience some images compiled by | :53:49. | :53:50. | |
Save The Children. They are distressing. So I want to let you | :53:51. | :53:54. | |
know that in advance. You can perhaps tell us about the | :53:55. | :53:57. | |
pictures Fergus if you would. Wonderful. So the wards are packed | :53:58. | :54:09. | |
full of skeletal children. There is one incredibly brave nurse called | :54:10. | :54:14. | |
Martha who is trying to keep 16 newborn babies alive in the | :54:15. | :54:17. | |
intensive care unit where there was no electricity and the incubators | :54:18. | :54:20. | |
were held together by sellotape. One nurse trying to keep 16 babies alive | :54:21. | :54:27. | |
where incubators are held together with sellotape. Yes. And there is no | :54:28. | :54:31. | |
electricity. Wow. My goodnessment OK. Goodnessment goodness. The case | :54:32. | :54:42. | |
in the High Court. Tell our audience about it UK arms have been central | :54:43. | :54:47. | |
to that. UK fighter jets have been flying overhead and UK bombs have | :54:48. | :54:51. | |
been falling on to people below. Since the bombing began in 2015, the | :54:52. | :54:58. | |
UK licensed over ?3 billion of arms to Saudi Arabia. British | :54:59. | :55:01. | |
manufacturers have export licences to sell arms to Saudi Arabia? Well, | :55:02. | :55:06. | |
we believe the arms exports have not just been immoral, they have been | :55:07. | :55:11. | |
illegal. It says if there is a clear risk that weapons might be used in a | :55:12. | :55:16. | |
serious violation of international humanitarian law, then an arms | :55:17. | :55:20. | |
export should not go approach head. Seek the horrific images today, how | :55:21. | :55:24. | |
much more serious does that risk have to be? Saudi Arabia is one of | :55:25. | :55:30. | |
the most abusive regimes in the world and it is conducting a | :55:31. | :55:33. | |
terrible, terrible crimes against the people of Yemen. Let me bring in | :55:34. | :55:40. | |
an aid worker. Can you hear me OK? Yes. Tell me what you have | :55:41. | :55:48. | |
witnessed. Well, what I witness in my country which is very poor. The | :55:49. | :55:53. | |
situation is very, very bad. People are in need for humanitarian | :55:54. | :55:57. | |
assistance. There are casualties every day. People die in almost | :55:58. | :56:02. | |
every place of the country because of various reasons. It is either | :56:03. | :56:05. | |
because of the conflict or because of lack of humanitarian aid. There | :56:06. | :56:18. | |
are protection challenges. The health system is collapsing. Let's | :56:19. | :56:23. | |
say it has already collapsed. We have nutrition challenges all across | :56:24. | :56:29. | |
the country. Children are dying of hunger and lack of proper Health | :56:30. | :56:36. | |
Services. We also have problems in education and people now have no | :56:37. | :56:43. | |
schools. There are seven million children that have no access to | :56:44. | :56:48. | |
education. I can't say that the situation in yem -- I can say that | :56:49. | :56:51. | |
the situation in Yemen is very, very dire and people are in immediate | :56:52. | :56:58. | |
need of assistance. If Britain doesn't sell arms to Saudi Arabia, | :56:59. | :57:05. | |
somebody else will? It is the same argument which could be used to | :57:06. | :57:10. | |
justify selling weapons to Iran or Russia or North Korea or anybody. | :57:11. | :57:15. | |
Iran are on the other side. From a British point of view, you could say | :57:16. | :57:18. | |
there is some kind of strategy in order to maintain our influence | :57:19. | :57:22. | |
there over and above Iran? The UK is meant to stand for Human Rights and | :57:23. | :57:25. | |
democracy around the world. It should not be arming one of the most | :57:26. | :57:29. | |
brutal repressive regimes in the world while it wages a terrible | :57:30. | :57:33. | |
bombardment against one of the poorest countries in the world. | :57:34. | :57:41. | |
Fergus? We're working with an incredibly brave 13-year-old girl | :57:42. | :57:44. | |
who was bombed whilst in her classroom. She lost her teacher and | :57:45. | :57:51. | |
her friends and her cousin. She is so traumatised and she is going to | :57:52. | :57:56. | |
be dealing with the trauma of that forever and we're doing everything | :57:57. | :57:59. | |
we can to respond to the hult situation on the ground, but we need | :58:00. | :58:02. | |
the British Government to help to put pressure on all sides of the | :58:03. | :58:05. | |
conflict to get back around the negotiating table. Thank you very | :58:06. | :58:08. | |
much. Thank you for coming on the programme. Thank you very much for | :58:09. | :58:20. | |
your company today. Back tomorrow. Have a good day. | :58:21. | :58:34. | |
Oh, my goodness me, I don't like the look of that. | :58:35. | :58:36. | |
The Robshaws are going back in time again... | :58:37. | :58:38. | |
Feel a little bit overwhelmed at the moment. | :58:39. | :58:43. | |
How people did this every day, I don't know. | :58:44. | :58:47. | |
Calf's head. Leave the teeth out of it, won't you? | :58:48. | :58:51. |