09/02/2017 Victoria Derbyshire

Hello, it's Thursday, it's 9am, I'm Victoria Derbyshire -

A waiting times in English hospitals are longer than ever -

leaked figures show last month was the worse since targets

We will try to find solutions in the next hour of the programme.

Also today, evidence that a new law designed to stop rogue landlords

We have an exclusive report on the vulnerable people

still being made homeless when they complain about

They checked the property, they agreed it was damp and something

needed to be done, so they wrote to our landlord and within a week of

him receiving that, we received a Section 21 is eviction notice to

pushed under our door. An exclusive report to come.

Last year we took the former refugee Lord Dubs to visit migrant children

I'm a refugee, I came to England at the age of six.

He campaigned for more to be brought to the UK.

Today he reacts to a Government decision to stop receiving children

under the scheme he championed, calling it "shameful".

Hello, welcome to the programme, we're live until 11am this morning.

Do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning -

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Our top story today - Accident and Emergency departments

in England had their worst waiting time performance last

month since targets were introduced 13 years ago.

Provisional figures leaked to the BBC also suggest that record

numbers of patients have had to wait on trolleys for a bed

The Department of Health insists the vast majority of patients

Our health correspondent Dominic Hughes has more.

For months now, Accident and Emergency departments

Last week, the BBC was given exclusive access

to the Royal Blackburn Hospital, where the pressure

More patient and a shortage of beds mean long waits.

New data leaked from the NHS suggests it's a similar

Provisional figures appear to show that last month 82%

of patients were treated, admitted, and discharged

within four hours - the worst performance

since the target of 95% was produced in 2004.

780 patients waited more than 12 hours for a bed after being admitted

to hospital by a doctor, known as a trolley wait.

And more than 60,000 waited between four and 12 hours,

If the figures are correct, it shows the degree

Despite huge efforts from 1.4 million staff,

the NHS is really struggling to cope with extra demand,

These figures are the worst since the four-hour A

They just show how much pressure the service is under.

The NHS in Scotland is coping better, but similar issues affect

Wales and Northern Ireland, symptoms of the pressures building

NHS sources acknowledge the system is facing unprecedented demand.

And these latest figures suggest there is little sign of a respite.

Dr Faye Kirkland is a journalist who's also still working as a GP.

How bad is it? They appear to show the worst performance in England

since records began 13 years ago, so the number of patients, 82%,

admitted, discharge or transferred towards from A within four hours,

but the target of 95% of people getting that treatment within four

hours, to be either admitted, transferred or discharged. I wonder

if the target doesn't help the Government, then? Occasionally you

hear conversations about them scrapping or redefining that target?

The target has not been met since July 2000 15. The Royal College of

Emergency Medicine has been clear they don't think it should change

because it is the standard of care expected for patients in the. Thank

you very much. Ben Brown is in the BBC

Newsroom with a summary Ben Brown is in the BBC

Newsroom with a summary Downing Street is playing down

a threat from a Government source that the House of Lords could be

abolished if Peers try to block Brexit secretary David Davis has

called on Peers to 'do their patriotic duty' after MPs

overwhelmingly backed the Bill allowing the Government

to start the process of leaving Here's our political

correspondent Tom Bateman. MPs gave their overwhelming support

for Theresa May's plan to get and it got through with a large

majority every turn. It has carried out the will

of the British people. That's what Parliament

has done today. And it's put through a bill

which is very simple, just 137 words long,

authorising us to do The Scottish National Party fought

the bill all the way. They lost, but they sung

the European Union's The threat of a Conservative

rebellion fell away, but 52 Labour MPs, including shadow

Cabinet member Clive Lewis, defied Jeremy Corbyn

to vote against the bill. Mr Lewis resigned moments before the

vote. Lib Dems called for

a referendum on the exit deal. What you have done is allow

a stitch-up, the 21st century equivalent of

smoke-filled rooms. 80% of people will be dissatisfied

with what is imposed upon them. Theresa May left after

the vote clearing a first Now the bill goes to the House

of Lords, where it may need With us now is our assistant

political editor Norman Smith. As Tom was suggesting, all eyes now

on the House of Lords. And the signs are that the vote in

the Commons may make the Government's task easier in the

House of Lords because Mrs May has secured a stonking great majority,

more than 370 MPs backing her Brexit Bill and significantly not a single

amendment passed during the two weeks of debate in the Commons,

which means peers will be much more reluctant to try and significantly

amend or delay the bill, added to which the Government initially

seemed to be taking a pretty hobnailed boot strategy to the House

of Lords with Government sources saying, if they seek to frustrate

the bill, then they could be signing in effect their own death warrant,

because there would be massive pressure to abolish the House of

Lords. This morning however, a complete rethink. The view in

Government circles is that sort of language simply risks fuelling

opposition in the House of Lords, so now is very different tone from

Number Ten saying, we understand peers have a legitimate right to

debate and scrutinise this legislation, so perhaps a degree of

nervousness, uncertainty about how to handle the House of Lords.

And rumours about the Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn possibly thinking of

standing down, swirling around Westminster, he has been stamping on

those rumours this morning? This morning Mr Corbyn described

such reports as " fake news", absolute nonsense. He said the

decision of Clive Lewis, Shadow Business Secretary, to walk, has led

people to think that Mr Corbyn could be vulnerable and there is

considerable disquiet in the party over his whole handling of the

Brexit debate. One of Ed Miliband's closest aides Stu Woodward has just

put up a tweet after last night's vote. " no space this feels a bit

like Monty Python and the holy Grail when the Black Knight has had his

limbs cut off and says, all right, we will call it a draw.

" a lot of Labour people think Mr Corbyn has taken the wrong approach

to Brexit by backing Mrs May's bill. Norman, thank you.

The US Senate has backed one of President Trump's most

controversial cabinet nominees, Jeff Sessions, as Attorney General.

More than 30 years ago, Mr Sessions was denied

a post as a federal judge when he was accused of racism,

He will now take charge of the Justice Department and more

than 100,000 employees, including 93 US attorneys.

New laws introduced last year to protect tenants in England

from so-called revenge evictions aren't working, according to MPs

A BBC freedom of information request found that there may be hundreds

of thousands of tenants afraid to report things like damp,

faulty electrics and broken boilers, for fear of being evicted.

A Labour peer who campaigned for changes to immigration rules

to help unaccompanied migrant children come to Britain,

says the Government's decision to stop receiving them is shameful.

When the 'Dubs Scheme' was introduced last year,

campaigners hoped thousands of children would benefit.

By the time the system closes next month, just 350 children

It was designed by Lord Dubs, a former refugee who fled Nazi

We will be talking to Lord Dubs later this hour.

MPs will debate the way the Football Association is run today.

The Culture, Media and Sport Committee has tabled a motion

of no-confidence in the FA's ability to reform itself.

MPs want greater representation for fans, and more diversity in top

The mother of an 11-year-old transgender girl who was shot

with an air-gun claims her school has not done enough

She said five months of bullying has had a "terrible

Greater Manchester Police confirmed it's investigating the shooting.

The school said it took the attack "very seriously" and had expelled

Scientists studying the calls of one of our closest ape relatives say

they've revealed the origins of the earliest words.

The researchers from Durham and Liverpool John Moores Universities

recorded and analysed thousands of orangutan squeaks over

years to learn how human language began.

That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 9.30am.

This on Facebook about A waiting times, my husband was left waiting

for seven hours in A with a skull fracture before being sent home with

no information about the fracture and only paracetamol for

excruciating pain. For reasons unknown in the case has been

referred to the Ian nose and throat department but it has been five days

and he has not heard from them. Your experiences of NAND, positive

ones as well, do let me know. If you text, you will be charged

at the standard network rate. Let's get some sport

with Hugh Ferris. Leicester City's topsy-turvy season

continues? After a vote of confidence on

Tuesday, a win on Wednesday, Claudio Ranieri is having a good week.

Leicester might be struggling in the Premier League but their FA Cup run

goes on thanks to a fourth replay win over championship side Derby,

who took it to extra time thanks to that deflected free kick. In the

extra 30 minutes, two wonderful goals, first double from a new

Leicester signing, then a touch of the Ryan digs about this from tamari

grape. Leicester are eventually going through to the fifth round

with a 3-1 win. They will play Millwall next, but before that their

eyes will be on a big Premier League match against Swansea on Monday.

MPs are going to debate whether the Football Association is fit for

purpose. This will be part of the culture and sport committee.

Why are they doing this? Some people may remember as far back as 1966,

two things happened that year, winning the World Cup and also the

first report into whether the FA should reform, waiting more than 50

years for both of those things to happen again. The Government have

increased the pressure by threatening to withdraw up to ?40

million of public funding for the FA before this meeting today. It

appears to boil down to what former FHM and Greg Dyke has called in the

last 24 hours " old men" accused of blocking change, I'm sure they would

reject that. The FA parliament is made up of 122 members, 92/60, only

eight women as well, so the Government is looking for better

diversity, better representation of people who play the game on that

council and the current chairman Greg Clark has said he will resign

if his plans for reform are not accepted when he puts them to the

Government in April. The Winter Olympics is a year away

and Britain has said it aims to become one of the top snow sports

nations. Yes, the governing body for ski and

snowboarding, by 2030, would like Britain to be a top five country,

said they have got 13 years to do that. Just a year now and will be

2018 Winter Olympics. The overall shift emission of all sports says we

should be excited about our metal rack micro-medal chances, four is

the best Team GB have managed over the years, also in Sochi time out

they managed to get four, but he thinks we have a few chances to get

on the podium in South Korea. Investment has doubled to more than

?27 million over the last four year cycle so you imagine those funding

bodies will be expecting something of a return on that investment.

Thank you, more throughout the morning.

Our exclusive film today shows some of the absolutely disgusting

conditions that people who live in rented accomodatoin live in.

And yet a new law designed to exactly those people from rogue

That's according to MPs and housing lawyers.

Faulty electrics, awful damp and broken boilers that don't get

fixed when it's cold are all things that are officially classed

as category one hazards which pose a risk to health.

But many private tenants are worried that if they complain,

or complain too much, they will be evicted.

The law in England changed in 2015 to make "revenge evictions" illegal.

But despite that, figures gathered by Radio 1 Newsbeat through Freedom

of Information requests show that more than half of local

councils across England say they haven't stopped any.

Here's Dan Whitworth with the exclusive story.

Damp, mould, faulty electrics and broken windows and boilers that

don't get fixed when it's cold, they're all classed as category one

hazards, in other words, they're so bad, they pose a risk

These are all things that in many cases ,people living in private

rented accommodation complaint of their landlord

Helen used to live with her mum, sister and baby daughter

in a rented home with lots of problems, including damp.

After months of complaining, we got a firm of solicitors

in who deal with properties in this state of disrepair.

They checked the property and agreed it was damp

So they wrote to our landlord, and within a week of him receiving

that, we received a section 21 eviction notice pushed

Telling you, and your family to get out.

What kind of impact did that have on you and your family?

We're living about four miles away from each other.

At the same time, I'd been suffering really bad ill health as well.

So to have that on top of what I was already

going through just completely floored me, and the thought

of having to live my own that point, I wasn't going to cope.

So for the first two months of me having this place,

I never really saw it because I was staying

on my mum's sofa bed, to keep us together,

because I couldn't face not being with my mum

Because of what happened to people like Helen,

a new rule was introduced in October 2015, to try to stop retaliatory

or so-called revenge evictions, but exclusive figures gathered under

a Freedom of Information request from hundreds of local authorities

across England who have the power to stop them, more than half said

More than a quarter said they don't record figures,

with fewer than one in five councils taking any action.

So, we're just following some housing inspectors

from Leeds council, who have set up some inspections

They deal specifically with rogue landlords,

so we've been told to expect some category one hazards,

things like broken windows, boilers that don't get fixed,

mould, damp, faulty electrics, things that pose

So we will go and have a look and see what we see.

What are the type of category one, serious hazards

It's going to be entry by intruders, because the front door

There's no security, so anyone can walk into there.

The boiler is not working so they don't have any

The electrics aren't working, so pitch dark.

When you say the kitchen facilities, I mean there is a sink there...

This is rented out as private rented accommodation

People paying to rent here, making complaints, nothing happening

and then they could be under the threat of a revenge eviction

That's the reason why they are not coming forward to the council

Upstairs, there are even more problems.

That's damp that's been leaking from outside the guttering.

When you look up close to this, I describe that as mould,

Clearly it looks terrible, and this is all from a leak outside?

It's not been fixed and the water is coming through.

Paul has lived here for nearly six years.

He didn't want to show his face on camera because he's embarrassed

He'd never make repairs, the landlord.

The skylight has been broken three or four years.

The boiler's been packed in now, just won't fixed it.

So we've just heard Paul's story that.

The scariest thing about all of this is Paul's story is one of many.

There are 9 million people living in private rented accommodation.

Of those, 30% are classed as a non-decent standard.

Fair enough, that is a pretty exceptionally bad case,

but there are many, many people just like Paul, too worried

in fact to complain, because if they complain

to their landlord, they may get evicted.

If they get evicted, they have nowhere else to go

Clive Betts is the chair and communities and local government

committee so he holds the government to account

Bearing in mind more than half of local authorities across England

say they haven't stopped any revenge eviction is, is this law working?

I can't believe that there are that number of authorities where no

one has been subject to a revenge eviction.

And we know there are many good landlords out there,

who will never be worried about revenge eviction

is from, because they won't operate like that.

If repairs need doing, they'll carry out them in a proper manner.

We talking about here trying to avoid carrying

out their responsibilities as a landlord, to keep

their properties in a good state of repair, and if that asked

a simple question like, will you do will prepare for me,

they threaten someone with an eviction to shut them up.

They are the landlords we have to get at and they sometimes

have the worst properties with people living in

That's the biggest challenge for everybody.

You have a position of power and influence within Parliament.

You are chair of a select committee that is responsible

There's a guy living in this flat and his window,

What can you say, this chap's name is Paul.

The landlord is refusing to fix things like this.

What needs to happen there, we shouldn't just be

stopping revenge evictions, we should be prosecuted

landlords for letting properties in that condition.

We got in touch with the Government for comment on this story

and a spokesman for the Department for Communities and Local Government

They said revenge evictions are rare and because of the new law,

it's given local councils all the powers they

Back on the road with Leeds Council, our final visit is to Lizzie's home.

Faulty electrics, the lights clearly not working...

Her landlord is the same as Paul's, who we heard from earlier.

Hang on a minute, I don't know if you can see this,

but there's a gap about 2-3 centimetres where the

It's not just there, it's that whole wall.

Again, not pulling anything out, but I can see the damp goes right

the way from the skirting board pretty much to the very top.

It's unfair and I can't bring people back to the house because I feel

embarrassed to bring them back to the house.

When I first came here, I didn't want to move

in because I saw the state of the front door.

I don't really want keep complaining, because he might end up

going to me, if you keep complaining, out you go.

What would happen to you if you did get evicted,

Straight up, didn't miss a heartbeat, worried

Yes, because I've been on the streets and it's not nice.

I've been on the streets and it is horrible.

So that's obviously why you don't want to complain too much,

because that's the other option for you.

Well. You can find out more about the issue on the BBC News beat

website. Let's speak to Labour's Shadow

Housing Minister John Healey, and Barbara Dickson who was evicted

along with her husband, by their private landlord,

after she complained when she found hidden cameras and microphones

in her ceiling and floors. Which is the most astonishing story

in itself. First of all I would like you to give some reaction to the

conditions we saw in that film? I think that's horrific but it's more

common than people realise. I think people are being taken advantage of

because they are afraid to complain. A lot of people are living like this

because of fear, it is then easy difficult to find a replacement

place to live so you put up with whatever you have to do. I think it

is more common than... I think that's the tip of the iceberg. There

have been estimates there are probably 200,000 people who suffer

from revenge evictions each year. It's not just about the home. We saw

with Helen how it breaks up families. We saw with Liz how

frightened people are. Home is where you want to feel safe and warm. It's

where you want to retreat to, from the world. It's the heart of all our

lives. When people can't even have that sort of basic security, those

basic standards, then the law is not working and we have to do a great

deal more. We will come back to that in a moment. Barbara, tell our

audience what happened. We had a leak coming from our season, it was

like a shower level of water coming through on the landlord wasn't

around to be able to assist us. My husband climbed into the roof to

turn the water off because that's where it was an that's where we

found all the cameras and microphones at the house. There was

a camera in just about every room in our flat, including our bedroom, the

bathroom, everywhere. When you said to the landlord, hello, what did he

say? Neuer we got an eviction notice the next day. How many days later?

The next day. It was taped to our front door. You might describe that

as a revenge evictions? Absolutely, no doubt. You called the police,

what did you think they could do? I thought they would investigate the

cameras being present or speaking to the landlord but they weren't

interested at all. They thought it was a domestic situation and were

prepared to intervene. This is before the legislation for

empowering councils. If it had been in place would you have gone to the

Council and asked for help? I don't think anyone is willing to do

anything. Despite this talk about this desire to assist and help

people, I think in the end of the land both can go to court and have

you removed irrespective of if the council intervene or not. That's

where the issue lies. The issue according to Barbara is with

councils. People are willing to go to them because they are still

scared. Councils have the power is now enshrined in law but they are

not using them. People are scared and that is quite clear. It is quite

a complicated law. Councils could only have stepped in and Barbara's

case if she complained in writing to the landlord, the landlord refused

to do anything about it, she then notified formally the council and

the council then served an official written improvement notice. That's

not complicated, it's really straightforward. May be time

consuming. You needed to act quickly. Complications is one part

of it. Councils aren't acting when half of them haven't stopped a

single revenge evictions. Nobody believes it isn't happening

everywhere. I think the real thing is not to try and deal with the

symptoms but the causes. That means, I think, new, tougher legal

standards for the homes that private landlords rent. It just isn't good

enough that we haven't got a law requiring landlords to make sure

it's fit for human habitation without some of those problems.

Secondly, I think longer minimum tenancies because longer tenancies

build in the sort of protections and rights that aren't there in this

case. Minimum tenancies is something the government is trying to address,

with that housing white paper it published the other day. I want to

ask you about the Brexit vote last night. Can I just be clear about

that? There is a huge gap between their rhetoric on their record. What

they announced this week was that they will work with people who are

building new homes, full rent. I know, incentives. That won't help

any of the 11 million current renters, it won't help the people in

the report that we saw, not just in Leeds but across the country. The

government has to be prepared to act. When it was put to the

Communities Secretary this week in the House of Commons that we needed

this new legal standard requiring homes fit for human standard he

described as frivolous and unnecessary. These government

ministers don't get what it's like for people. You would expect me to

ask about the Brexit vote last night, the historic vote in the

Commons. What do you think of your colleagues from Jeremy Corbyn's top

team, Clive Lewis, resigning because he could not vote to give the

government how to trigger Article 50? He did last week but not last

night. What you think? He wants to be able to speak up for his

constituents in Norwich and therefore he has resigned from the

Shadow Cabinet. If you want to speak for the party nationally from the

Shadow Cabinet you have to accept the decision we made, quite rightly,

as a national party that we would respect the result of the

referendum, respect and recognise the will of the people when they

were asked that question about the future and voted for Britain's Lee.

This was a very small build we dealt with in the Commons last night,

giving the Prime Minister the authority of Parliament to start the

negotiations. Some were surprised there weren't more labour rebels.

Youth campaign to remain in the European Union. Are you scared now

to speak up? No, it's a basic question of respecting the democracy

that we supported and respected in the referendum. You can't ask people

for their view, get that view and say I'm sorry, we are going to

ignore that. It is right that most Labour MPs voted to back this bill.

The much bigger role of Parliament comes next, that is about

challenging the Prime Minister about the aims for had negotiations,

challenged her on how well she's doing and out to people what Britain

beyond Brexit looks like. For a Labour Party, we have a very

different view of what is needed in the future than the Conservative.

Thank you very much. Labour's Johnny Leota Barbara Dickson. Thank you for

coming on the programme. A departments are well behind

their targets for waiting times. We'll be taking a look

at how they are coping And trying to talk about what

solutions health professionals might come up with if they were in charge.

Labour peer and former child refugeee Lord Dubs reacts

to a Government decision to stop receiving children under

the scheme he championed, calling it 'shameful'.

We will speak to him live in the next half an hour.

Here's Ben in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

Accident and Emergency departments in England had their worst waiting

time performance last month since targets were

Provisional figures leaked to the BBC also suggest that record

numbers of patients have had to wait on trolleys for a bed

The Department of Health insists the vast majority of patients

Tomorrow on the BBC News Channel, we'll be answering your questions

and listening to your suggestions on how the NHS can tackle

the looming financial shortfall and deal with the challenges that

obese and ageing parts of the population are

We'll be getting experts to answer your questions and respond

Please get in touch by text or send an email or contact us

via Twitter using the hashtag #BBCAskThis.

Downing Street has attempted to play down an earlier threat

by a Government source that the House of Lords could be

abolished if peers tried to block the Government's bill to begin

Last night, the Commons backed the legislation

More than 50 Labour MPs defied Jeremy Corbyn

New laws introduced last year to protect tenants in England

from so-called "revenge evictions" aren't working, according to MPs

A BBC Freedom of Information request found that there may be hundreds

of thousands of tenants afraid to report things like damp,

faulty electrics and broken boilers, for fear of being evicted.

The mother of an 11-year-old transgender girl who was shot

with an air-gun claims her school has not done enough

She said five months of bullying has had a "terrible

Greater Manchester Police confirmed it's investigating the shooting.

The school said it took the attack "very seriously" and had expelled

An Australian man has survived spending hours struggling

to keep his nose above water after his excavator

Daniel Miller had been riding the machine at his remote property

north of Sydney, when the edge of the dam gave way

and he was pinned down by the three-tonne excavator.

He said he adopted a yoga pose and spent the whole time

thinking about his wife and their two young children.

That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10am.

Some comments about slum landlords, Kenneth says, why our local MPs not

naming and shaming them? Sean says, the film was magnificent, a la it is

the tip of the iceberg, it is like Victorian times.

Your own experiences are welcome, we will talk more on that after 10am

and we will feed your experiences will talk more on that after 10am

into that conversation if you get in touch with us.

Let's get the sport now. Leicester are flirting with

relegation in the Premier League but they are through to the fifth round

of the FA Cup after beating Derby 3-1. This deflected free kick forced

the extra period. This goal was matched by Demaret grey. It sends

them to the fifth round, and a tie with Millwall.

MPs will debate the Football Association's failure to reform

following a vote of no-confidence. Parliament will examine whether the

FA is fit for purpose as it currently stands.

Britain is aiming to become one of the world's top five skiing and

snowboarding nations by 2030. The Winter Olympics in South Korea start

a year today, Great Britain could achieve its best ever games

according to UK Sport. And Tiger Woods has said he will

never feel great game. He has had two back operations, coming back

from 15 months out after the last one. He had to force out of the

Dubai Desert Classic because of back spasms and admitted there have been

times he did not think it would be able to return to golf.

Those are the headlines, more after 10am.

Waiting times in A departments in England are longer than ever.

Anecdotal reports of patients on trolleys,

waiting hours to be seen, have now been backed up

And they're the worst since targets were introduced 13 years ago.

On Monday, an audience of 80 NHS staff and patients from around

the UK joined our programme to talk about the state of the NHS.

We invited doctors, patients, nurses and politicians to come

together and discuss where things are going wrong, and what the future

I'm representing the senior tier of commissions on the shop floor in

saying we cannot provide safe care any more for patients. We are being

forced to make really dangerous decisions every day, the pressures

are unfathomable and we are heartbroken, exacerbated and

demoralised. The NHS must be managed by people that have been within the

system, that know the system and they understand the system. I a

brother who has spent an extra five weeks in hospital and an extra five

weeks in a nursing home when he has actually got home of his own, he

just needs his social care package to be able to go back to where he

wants to be, back in the home. It must so frustrating. Very. We need

more GPs, we need more doctors, we need more funding. In my case,

talking for old people, we shouldn't have to go and queue up for half an

hour or an hour to get to see a GP. We would like consistency,

stability. We don't want to be changing doctors every time we go to

the surgery. Three years ago I was diagnosed with depression, anxiety,

unfortunately the NHS could do nothing for me, I had to spend ?4000

of my own money, without spending that money, I'm not lying, I'm not

sure if I would be here today. This concept of charging is already

happening, 6000 people a year kill themselves. Every time we run a

programme, one person will have killed themselves. We have to take

mental health seriously and commit to spend the money we say we will

commit because we are not doing it. On the 8th of October, my

26-year-old daughter went into hospital to have her baby, and she

died during childbirth. The baby, they wanted us to switch off the

machine the same day she died, she survived, she is 16 months, she has

a Grade three brain injury and she is blind. I just want to say that we

didn't anticipate that happening. She walked into hospital, she went

on the 7th of October, she was sent home. We were told that if everybody

came in at one centimetre dilated then the hospital wards would be

full. She had an underlying problem which was seen on three scans and

not acted upon because they were not sure what it was. That cost her her

life. And I would just like to... I would like to say that... How many

lives are going to go? My name is Jess, I'm an A doctor. I have to

agree with you, I stand on the front I'm the person who gets assaulted,

sexually assaulted in NAND by drug people. I was a medical student, you

see us on TV, we go and get drunk all the time, I have never ended up

in A, none of us have, and I have never left my friends behind on the

side of the road drug, which people do now. We should be charging them!

It costs inordinate amount of money, ?300 every time we send LAS to pick

somebody up of the side of the road. Just walking into NAND is ?100 to

register you, it is a waste of money and it is ridiculous. I was then

told the drugs I need are not funded by the NHS in Wales. They are

currently funded in England but are being withdrawn from England as

well. I'm having to fund raise to pay for the drugs to keep me alive

to be here for my children. Some examples of things

going wrong - by the way, there were some very positive

stories too, but today We've brought together Maria Gilroy,

a senior site nurse practitioner, Eren Ozagir, the founder

of Push Doctor which puts patients and doctors in touch over the web,

and Sarah Gorton the deputy head Huge question, if you were in charge

of the NHS in England, where would you start? The first thing to say is

the NHS is full of great teams... We absolutely know that, we take that

as read. But even winning teams struggle in difficult circumstances

and the odds are definitely stacked against them so it is time for a

change of tactics. I think there are three things that could really

change the situation. Give me your first one and let's see what the

others think. The first is a difficult conversation about

funding. In the very short-term, an immediate cash injection to get us

through what used to be called Winter pressure and is now

year-round normal pressure for the NHS. Secondly, it is to talk about

longer term sustainable funding solution for the NHS. So that is a

conversation between politicians of all parties and voters? We talked

about this on Monday, do we look at increasing national Insurance

contributions, at increasing income tax, and be bothered, it is the

wrong question, it is things about the Government, don't build a just

do, don't replace Trident. Where are you on that? For me, funding is

important but to be think about it in a different way, efficiencies and

application, we are a technology business and we bring technology to

medics and help them operate more efficiently. Here is one example,

they could place set in the current system in a simple way and increase

the number of GP appointments which in theory should reduce the number

of people heading to A particularly over Christmas. 46,000

GPs in the UK, we have reduced admin Time from 45%, which is the time

spent on paperwork in the NHS, to just 9%, which frees up two

appointment and hour per doctor, in a day half a million GP appointments

that could be back online for patients to come and interact with a

doctor and start to solve the issues or at least talk to someone and get

the advice they need. That is the technology option, what did you

think? On Monday we were speaking about social care and Jon Ashworth

said about bringing the funding forward but that was agreed by the

Conservative MP that was there and I think that is an emergency response

and has to happen. So, like Sarah, short-term cash injection. More

broadly, what do you think? We have to look at Stav, recruitment and

retention. Over the last year, stuff like nurses and doctors are

completely demoralised, treated really badly by the Government. What

would you do in terms of boosting morale, if you were England's Health

Secretary? I would reverse the mistakes Jeremy Hunt has made, bring

bursaries back for nursing. Junior doctor contract, go back to the

table, it is not working. We have had a huge exodus of doctors out of

the country since this contract... I'm not sure we have had a huge

exodus, I know people threatened to leave. I think we have, I think it

is evident, I go and see my consultant and last time I went I

waited 2.5 hours, which does not bother me, it is a busy clinic, and

when I went in she said, I'm sorry, we cannot get any middle grades,

like registrar, below registrar, that are not on a training number.

Other people in different oncology department said the same thing to

me. They cannot get the staff. If the Government reversed the decision

on nursing bursaries, for example, it would not fill the hole now,

would it? It might in 12 months, 24 months, three, four years. What

about now, what could you do today? It is Catch-22, to be honest. We

could say, let overstaffed, make provision for having too many staff

in the hope we will get a number that is workable. But we simply

don't have those staff available now. It is temp staff, then? We

don't have them available. We have 55,000 people from EU countries

working in Health and Social Care Committee all of those people are

not sure of their status so confirming that they have the right

to stay would definitely help. Sorting out problems with the

bursary, doing something to make staff feel valued, so from all, I

was talking to a big group of health workers yesterday from different

types of jobs and the stories they are all telling are the same. They

are working too many hours, they are scared because they are constantly

working at full pressure and they are scared about the decisions they

are making and not having enough time to do their job properly and

safely any more, and they are constantly working long shifts under

unbearable pressure, and that used to be just seasonal, it used to be

for a few weeks each year, and now it is almost like we are in some

kind of Narnia where we are in permanent winter and the NHS is

running on those conditions. More staff, bring back bursaries for

nursing. We've talked about technology, what else? I think for

me the idea that doing the same things, some of the suggestions are

to do things we've done in the past, is on and off of the step change to

make a dramatic difference to the system. On the treaty before there

was a lady saying, we need people from inside the system to come up

with solutions. That's not always the case. If you keep internalising

the problem, you will end up with very similar answers. Not to go back

to the tech thing but having an entrepreneurial approach and

allowing private companies to come in, who have run huge amount of

numbers of people through shops and stores and online retail, actually

can think about problems the NHS are having differently alongside

managers. The problem at the moment is nobody is really up for that. The

minute a private company stepped in to offer advise the public and NHS

think we are going to private the NHS. That's not the point, we have

to be open to new thoughts on skills. Sarah, do you acknowledge

that in the private sector there are some people with brains, who have

ideas, who could help the NHS run better? The NHS is constantly

learning organisation. That's one of the good things about it. Are you

happy about that? One of the things that could be done immediately is to

allow staff that work in the NHS, they are constantly frustrated

because they don't have the opportunity to contribute ideas

about how their service can run better. Do you acknowledge there are

people in the private sector... We can always learn and take the best

from the world. You are asking a question about things that can be

done immediately, today. I think one of the really important lessons is

we are now experiencing the start of the austerity in health budgets. We

are facing another three years of cuts. So something that could be

done immediately is to say OK, it goes no further and we will cancel

the cuts are coming. We have ?22 billion worth of so-called

efficiency savings. At these are the figures just out. The A figures

for December from NHS England. Official figures just published.

86.2% patients were admitted, transferred or discharged from A

within four hours of arrival. That is below the 95% standard. That is

less than the figure of 88% recorded in November. Which you were

expecting, presumably? Yes, I would have expected. OK. Even our tiny

conversation now shows how difficult it is. Agreed? Hazard yes. Thank you

all of you for coming on the programme, thank you.

"Shameful" - that's how the peer Lord Dubs describes the decision

of Britain not take any more unaccompanied child migrants

So far, 350 such children have been able to come to Britain.

The so called Dubs amendment, designed by the Peer who's

a former child refugee, aimed to help some of the estimated

90,000 unaccompanied migrant children across the continent.

Last year for this programme Lord Dubs and Rabbi Harry Jacobi, visited

the Calais migrant camp and met two lone children

seeking asylum in the UK, aged 10 and 12.

The camp has since been disbanded by the French authorities.

I'm a refugee and I came to England at the age of six.

With the help of a translator, the boys aged ten and 12 explain

He's complaining that it's been eight months now,

and he's very upset that no one's bothered or asked us how

That's why we are here, to ask you how you are.

They said they now had little contact with relatives,

who'd paid smugglers to bring them to Europe.

One of them told the visitors what happened to his dad.

The Taliban, Taliban killed his father.

They made it to France in car boots, the back of lorries

Scared of older men, scared of French police and tear gas,

the boys said they would keep trying to get on lorries bound for England.

And Lord Dubs is here now, along with Martha Mackenzie

Lord Dubs, your reaction to the decision? I am bitterly, bitterly

disappointed. There was no need for this. We had a scheme. I visited

some of the Greek refugee camps in January. The situation there is

pretty desperate. There are children there who need something better than

the freezing cold and no help or support. I think it is a very

disappointing decision and I think the government have gone back on

their word. They assured me at the beginning they would axe at the

letter and spirit of the amendment and they haven't done that. Meaning

they -- meaning what? They should simply do it whilst there was a

need. I never said we should take all the children in Europe, all I

said was we should take some of them. The government have done very

little. They say this wasn't the only route to helping vulnerable

children. In the last year alone, "We have provided refuge or other

forms of leave to more than 8000 children.". Well, yes, but there are

over 90,000 unaccompanied child refugees in Europe. The point of the

amendment was to help those. The ones that have come here, have come

here possibly even legally and we wanted a legal means for

unaccompanied child refugees to find safety, that was the purpose of the

amendment. It is there as an amendment on the statute books, I

believe in good faith. The government started implementing it

and now they've decided, for very poor reasons, to stop the scheme

altogether. What would be those reasons?

The reasons they've stated is local authorities are not able to find,

not willing or haven't got the money to find more foster parents who

would provide families for these children. I know from local

authorities that others are willing, if asked again, to step up to the

mark. I've had e-mails from foster parents saying they are willing to

take refugees. It isn't true that the local authorities are not

supporting this. OK. Martha, what do you think of

this decision? We are also very disappointed.

Disappointed that the numbers are so small. To echo what Lord Dubs has

said, this can't be the end of the government's work for unaccompanied

children in Europe. We would urge them to go back to local authorities

and see if they can take any more children. And also there are a lot

of children in Europe who have family members in the UK and they

have a legal right to be reunited with those family members. I know is

very hard for to do that. The UK should stay in Greece and Italy make

sure those children in the long term can come to the UK safely. You say

there are small numbers. The government say last year we

transferred over 900 unaccompanied children to the UK from Europe,

including more than 750 from France as part of the UK's support for the

Calais camp Clarence. I think there two things are. A big

part of those transfer the children from Calais Howard family links

here. If they stepped up that level of ambition in Greece and Italy,

they could bring over many more children who have family links here.

I think again, as Lord Dubs said, the scale of the problem is very

large. We know there are around 2500 unaccompanied children in Greece at

the moment and 90% of all children who arrived in Italy last year were

unaccompanied. This isn't a problem that's going away. I'm going to ask

you, Lord Dubs, to tell us again about your rescue and the difference

it made to you as a child. I know there will be some people watching

who are saying, look, we can't look after all of these children, however

much we want to. Thank you. In 1938-39, Britain took 10,000

unaccompanied child refugees from Germany, Austria and Czechoslovakia.

I came from Prague. The ones from Prague were organised by Luke

Winton. I think if they hadn't come to Britain I think all of us would

have not survived the Holocaust. That was a route to safety. I have

to say, Britain is a country that was incredibly welcoming, gave me a

enormous opportunities, for which I am always enormously grateful. I

would like to feel other children who are having a terrible time in

camps across Europe could come to you England and have the same

opportunities I've been given. Martha McKenzie, I'm going to push

back on the figures, this local authorities. The number of asylum

seeking children in England increased by 4000 last year and a

vast majority are providing support for these young people. You are

telling a very different story. We understand the need to consult with

local authorities. There has to be space for these children and they

have to be cared for properly. What is critical is those safe routes to

get the UK. A lot of those children will have arrived spontaneously on

their own, falling into the hands of people traffickers, smugglers, some

even died en route to the UK. The Dubs amendment scheme made sure they

were not just brought Hibbert safely. Yes. What we saw during the

Calais camp clearances the number of children arriving spontaneously fell

down. We have to make those safe routes for children to get here so

they are not risking their lives. Thank you both very much for talking

to us. And at about 10.30am,

Labour are asking an urgent question about the closure of the child

migrant scheme, we'll bring Scientists studying the animals

say their eavesdropping has shed light on the origin of human

language. The latest news and sport in a

moment. Let's get the latest weather

update - with Carol. I wish I could but a cold day today.

A lot of cloud on some of that is producing wintry showers. Not

everywhere. This area of high pressure is blocking fronts coming

in from the Atlantic, dragging cold air from the continent across our

shores. If you look at the squeeze on those isobars it's telling us it

will be pretty windy, especially in the West. The winds in the

north-west will slowly come down through the day. In western parts of

the UK we will see some sunshine with one or two exceptions. Central

and eastern areas, we have the cloud and wintry showers. Over the next

few days the drill will be down the east coast of Scotland and England

you are likely to see a mixture of rain and or sleet. Come inland and

that becomes a mixture of sleet and or snow. The showers, not everyone

will see them. Today there will be a lot of dry weather around. Quite a

grey day and a cold today. Maximum temperature in London will be four

Celsius. The cloud continues as we drift towards Bristol. In parts of

Devon and Cornwall, some sunshine but not immune to the odd shower.

For West Wales we are also looking at some sunshine but the rest of

Wales will be fairly cloudy and it will feel cold. Northern Ireland,

bright spells, fewer showers this afternoon and some sunny spells.

Through the evening and overnight we hang onto this keenly easterly wind

coming off the cold continent. Still a lot of cloud and wintry showers.

Clear skies across north-west Scotland and West Wales means here

there will be some frost, meaning you could have to scrape your

windscreen first thing in the morning. Elsewhere, with the cloud

on the breeze, although subzero temperatures, it is still going to

feel pretty cold. You may not see that frost. Tomorrow, windy, the

wind coming off the continent. Down the east coast through central

areas once again we have the combination of cloud, rain, sleet

and snow. Up to six centimetres, in the Northern Isles, just over two

inches. Despite the fact those are the kind of temperature values you

may see on your thermometer, with the wind it will feel cold.

Into Saturday, organised band of rain, sleet and snow coming from the

east. It will be drifting further west. Note how the wind has changed

more of north-easterly. That will exacerbate cold feel of the weather

which at best we are looking at between 4-5 or maybe six.

Sunday, Sunday it's going to feel raw. Dragging him this cold wind

from the near continent. There will be a lot of dry weather around on

Sunday, some brighter skies, a little sunshine in Scotland and

Northern Ireland but we will still have that mixture of wintry showers.

Along the east coast a mixture of rain and sleet and as we push

inland, we're looking at a mixture of some snow and also some sleet

showers as well. It certainly isn't getting warmer in the next few days.

Hello, it's Thursday, it's 10am, I'm Victoria Derbyshire.

December was bad but it looks like January was the worst month

for A delays in England since records began.

The BBC has seen figures showing record numbers of patients left

waiting on trolleys for more than 12 hours for a hospital bed.

Brexit is causing friction in the Labour party.

But leader Jeremy Corbyn insists the resignation of shadow business

secretary Clive Lewis for voting against the Brexit bill

Meanwhile the Government say it is the patriotic duty of peers not to

oppose Brexit. Chucked out for complaining about

the housing conditions. Rogue landlords are still evicting

tenants who complain about poor housing conditions,

despite a new law aimed The smell inside this room is vile.

When you look at this, I would describe it as mould, dump. It

smells bad. Here's Ben in the BBC Newsroom

with a summary of today's news. New figures from NHS England show

that in December 86% of patients were admitted,

transferred or discharged from A

within four hours of arrival. That's well below the standard

of 95%, and below November's Provisional figures leaked

to the BBC suggest that last month the figure went down

to 82%, the lowest since The Department of Health insists

the vast majority of patients Downing Street has attempted to play

down an earlier threat by a Government source

that the House of Lords could be abolished if peers tried to block

the Government's bill to begin Last night, the Commons

overwhelmingly backed the legislation

without any amendments. More than 50 Labour MPs defied

Jeremy Corbyn and voted The Shadow Home Secretary Yvette

Cooper is asking an urgent question in the Commons this morning

on the closure of the programme to welcome

unaccompanied child refugees. When the Dubs Amendment

was introduced last year, campaigners hoped thousands

of children would benefit. By the time the system closes next

month, just 350 children will have It was designed by Lord

Dubs, who's described There was absolutely no need for

this. We had a scheme, I visited some of the Greek refugee camps in

January, the situation there is pretty desperate. There are children

there and need something better than the freezing cold and no help and

support, so I think it is a very disappointing decision and edit the

Government have gone back on their word.

New laws introduced last year to protect tenants in England

from so-called "revenge evictions" aren't working, according to MPs

A BBC Freedom of Information request found that there may be hundreds

of thousands of tenants afraid to report things like damp,

faulty electrics and broken boilers, for fear of being evicted.

The mother of an 11-year-old transgender girl who was shot

with an air-gun claims her school has not done enough

She said five months of bullying has had a "terrible

Greater Manchester Police confirmed it's investigating the shooting.

The school said it took the attack "very seriously" and had expelled

British scientists studying the calls of one of our closest ape

relatives say they've revealed the origins of the earliest words.

The researchers recorded and analysed thousands

of orangutan squeaks over several years to learn how

We will be speaking to the lead author of that research in the next

hour. An Australian man has survived

spending hours struggling to keep his nose above water

after his excavator Daniel Miller had been riding

the machine at his remote property north of Sydney when the edge

of the dam gave way, and he was pinned down

by the three-tonne excavator. and spent the whole time thinking

about his wife and their I went to a very, almost robotic

state of dust, count to 60, don't think about six hours, think about

60 seconds 60 seconds, moved my arms, readjust, count to 60 again,

another 60 seconds. Move my arms, readjust, just wait and try to be

calm and logical. I watched cricket climb up a piece of grass two hours.

I was stuck, there was nothing I could do. Lucky man.

That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10.30am.

Thank you for your comments about your experience of A Figures out

today showing that the target for four hours waiting in A was not

met in December and January. Allianz text said, my son, six years of age,

waited three hours in A with a fractured wrist and was sent home

without painkillers. Three days later we went as a GP and were sent

back to A for an x-ray. There are positive stories, Janet

says, my husband has terminal cancer and we have had three occasions of

going to A in Scotland, on each occasion we have had caring staff

who have dealt with us as promptly as possible, sometimes we have to

wait, we are patients after all. Why don't be less urgent cases display

some patience and be grateful that we have a caring service.

Bridge says, I work in a busy A department and suggest the people

who attend with a nonemergency should be charged. There are no

facilities for after-care for elderly patients and mental health

patients because of bed-blocking. There is nowhere to send patients

that do need admitting. If anyone has watched the programme Hospital

on BBC Two, it shows this, it makes me stressed just to watch.

Coming up, after a transgender people in Manchester was shocked by

fellow people with an airgun, we will hear from her mother. Before

that, the sport. Derby manager Steve McClaren seems

to think so after he made eight of the 18 overall changes

in their defeat to Leicester So neither team appeared

to fancy the extra game, but it still turned out to be

an entertaining one. Andy King put Leicester ahead before

Abdoul Camera's deflected Leicester restored their lead

through substitute Wilfred Ndidi, his first goal for the club,

and Demarai Gray's superb solo goal secured their place

in the fifth round. Tonight was about the squad, injured

players coming back and getting the game, just giving them minutes.

Towards the end of the season, when it is going to be important for us,

we need everybody. We missed our opportunity in the first game, we

didn't want the replay but it was a great game, fantastic support from

our fans, and I couldn't fault the players.

We want to do well in all the competition where we play. Of course

we want to go forward in the FA Cup. The Premier League is not so good

but we have to stay in the Premier League and for us now that is the

focus on Sunday. MPs will debate the Football

Associations "failure It follows a motion of no confidence

in the governing body. Parliament will examine

whether the FA is fit for purpose. Last July, sports minister

Tracey Crouch said the governing body would lose its ?30-?40 million

of public funding if Britain is aiming to become one

of the world's top five skiing In exactly a year's time

the Winter Olympics start in South Korea and the Team

GB chef de mission says Great Britain can

achieve its best ever Games. The current record medal haul

is four in 1924 and at Achieved in part by

Jenny Jones' bronze and she thinks the team can go

at least one better. Dave Riding is getting great

results. There are athletes getting podium result over this winter,

which has been awesome, and in skiing you have got James Woods, who

just won, Katie Ormerod came second at Air And Style, so I think it is

achievable. Tiger Woods has admitted

he will "never feel great" again. He returned to golf

after more than a year out in December following a second

major back operation. But had to pull out of the Dubai

Desert Classic earlier this He also revelaed there have been

times he didn't think he'd be That is all for now, the headlines

after 10:30am. Let's go to Westminster when Norman

has the latest on Brexit and whether the House of Lords Ultravox banner

in the works. Is it all go for Brexit, do you believe, Norman

Smith, political Guru? My sense is Mrs May has her foot on

the gas and is in cruise control. Look at what happened in the

Commons, the majority she got for her Brexit Bill are humongous. Last

night she got 370, and if you think there were hundreds of amendments

put down to the bill, not a single one got past, so now that it goes to

the House of Lords, if you are at Pier, you are thinking, gosh, cannot

really oppose this because it got such a stonking majority in the

Commons. More than that, the Government is trying to crank up the

pressure on peers with dire warning sounded last night, one Government

source sending a text to journalists saying that if peers sought to

frustrate Brexit then there would be an overwhelming demand for the House

of Lords to be abolished, and that is what we were hearing from other

mid loyalists like the Tory MP James cleverly this morning.

When the British people voted in huge numbers -

the largest popular mandate in British political history -

for the Lords to try and undermine or subvert that will put them

in a constitutionally very, very difficult place.

I think there are a lot of people there who understand

the implications of trying to distort or delay or even

Could they really get rid of the Lords over this?!

I was trying to get my phone out but I am too slow! The reason is this

morning I was sent text messages by Downing Street in effect saying,

hang on, we didn't mean to say we were going to abolish the House of

Lords, actually we are relaxed about the House of Lords scrutinising and

debating this bill. The reason for that is they know full well if they

go round threatening to land a blow on the House of Lords, that will

backfire, many peers will think, OK, we will be difficult if that is the

attitude you are going to take! So now we are seeing the Government

backtracked from that initial threat, although to be there to

David Davis, the Brexit Secretary, last night he struck a different

mode. These bloodcurdling things are

silly. Below is an important institution, I expected to do its

job and do its patriotic duty and give us the right to go on and

negotiate that the relationship. And what is the state of the Labour

Party this morning, would you say? Gosh, where to begin. A lot of

Labour people are very, very angry that they have ended up in a

position where they have effectively backed the Government, and although

Jeremy Corbyn ordered his MPs to do that there was a revolt by about 50

Labour MPs. Significantly we had Clive Lewis, yesterday we had him

coming out of his house and issuing that statement saying he was

thinking about what he was going to do and it was all very difficult,

but he has now resigned. That has sparked a lot of question marks

about whether there could be a move against Mr Corbyn again. I don't

think that is likely in the short-term but it has just started

that whole this morning. Mr Corbyn, when he was pressed earlier today,

again insisted he thinks he took the right decision to back Brexit.

Look, the majority of Labour MPs voted to trigger Article 50.

50-odd voted against it, mainly on a basis of a strong

My argument is it was a national vote, it was a national referendum

On all the other campaigning points, there is unity.

Let me finish with this, it made me laugh. This is a tweak here from a

guy called Stuart Wood, who used to be basically Ed Miliband's

right-hand man, lamenting where Labour is.

I think that gives you a sense of the feeling amongst many people that

really, over Brexit, they made a bit of a hash of it.

Thank you, Norman. We've been speaking to the mother,

whose 11-year-old transgender child was bullied for months and shot

with a ball bearing gun A new law designed to help protect

people renting homes from rogue landlords isn't working,

say MPs and housing lawyers. Things like faulty electrics,

damp and broken boilers that don't get fixed when it's cold

are all things that are officially classed as category one hazards

which pose a risk to health. But many private tenants are worried

that if they complain too much, The law in England changed in 2015

to make "revenge evictions" illegal. But, despite that change,

figures gathered by Radio 1 Newsbeat through Freedom of Information

requests show that more than half of local councils across England say

they haven't stopped any. Damp, mould, faulty electrics

and broken windows and boilers that They're all classed as category one

hazards, in other words - they're so bad that they pose

a risk to people's help. And they are all things that this

man from Leeds City Council's rogue landlords unit

is all-too-familiar with. That's all damp that has been

leaking from outside You might expect tenants

to complain about problems That's partly because they

fear being forced out A practice known as revenge

eviction, something This is rented out as

private accomdation. People paying to rent here,

making complaints, nothing is happening and then they could be

under the threat of a revenge That is the reason why people

are not coming forward And that's exactly what happened

to Helen, she was living with her mum, sister and baby

daughter in a rented home with lots It was horrible, after months

of complaining we got a firm of solicitors in who deal

with properties in these They checked the property,

they agreed that it was damp and something needed to be done,

so they wrote to our landlord and instructed that work needed

to be done on the property and within a week of him receiving

that we received a section 21 eviction notice pushed

under our door. Because of what happened to people

like Helen a new law was introduced in October 2015

to try and stop retaliatory, But, exclusive figures gathered

in a Freedom of Information requests to hundreds of local authorities

right across England, which have the power to stop them,

show that more than half And fewer than one in five have

taken any action at all. We're talking about landlords

who are trying to avoid carrying out their responsibilities

as a landlord, to keep their properties in a good state

of repair, and if asked a simple question like: "Will you a do repair

for me?", they threaten someone They are the landlords

we have got to get out. They're going to be in the worst

properties sometimes people living So, that's the biggest

challenge for everybody. The Government says prevent

evictions are rare and that because of the new law it's given

local councils all the powers Thankfully for Helen,

she was able to find a new home. My landlord is great,

I can't complain about him. I don't have to contact him

unless something does pop up. We can speak to Giles Peaker,

former chair of the Housing Law Carolyn Uphill, Chairman of

the National Landlords Association. And Kate Webb Shelter's

head of policy. And Sarah Ryan who has an experience

to share with us. We had a bathroom that was leaking into our kitchen

downstairs. Essentially when we asked for it to be repaired, the

landlord took about two weeks and then when I really pushed and said,

you do have an obligation to do this, that afternoon we were served

with a section 21 notice asking us to leave. How did you react? It was

really frightening, actually, because about two weeks previous I

had extended my fixed term tenancy for six months. It was clear to me

the reason she had served that notice was because I asked for the

repairs to be made. You will know that revenge evictions are illegal

now. Yes. But it appears either people aren't telling councils when

they have an issue with our landlord or councils aren't doing what they

are supposed to do under the legislation that gives them the

power to clamp down on rogue landlords. Yes, well I was in a bit

of a predicament because I'd actually moved to a new area from

where I grew up. When I went to the local council for where I live now

they said I they had no obligation to help me. When I contacted the old

council they said they didn't have an obligation to help me either

circus Catch-22. Is this law ineffective? It's not widely being

used. Does that mean it's not being used or councils have got their head

round it yet? That are two problems, the threshold in the law, the

council has to serve an improvement notice or emergency repairs notice

before retaliatory eviction happens. The second problem is that councils,

for one reason or another, are not taking action. I think a lot of the

time it is resources. Environmental health departments, some of them

haven't even got environmental health problems any more and they

are reluctant to serve notices. Let me bring you in from Shelter, why is

networking? The law is only the first step to tackle the most

extreme cases. I agree that it comes down to lack of resources and very

few people going through the formal process. But the law is trying to

push water uphill. We have a law that says you can evict people for

no reason whatsoever, so until we tackle that it will be very easy for

landlords to use evictions in this way, to evade looking after their

properties and tenants. You are German of the National landlords

Association. We know revenge evictions are pretty rare, affect

about 2% of tenancies but when they happen they are devastating, aren't

they? Certainly they are. What Sarah's story reveals if a landlord

who doesn't respond to repair where there is a leak going from the

bathroom through the ceiling to the kitchen is a poor investor and a

fall to themselves could eventually that will do major damage to the

property. But that is no consolation to Sarah, who was evicted? Obviously

under the new law she shouldn't be able to be evicted because that's

what the law is designed to protect, to avoid. What this story is really

about is a lack of enforcement. Councils have the powers to deal

with these issues and if they would use them, they could drive the

rogues out of the sector, which we certainly would like to see and I

think sensible and responsible landlords would as well. Would you

agree with that, Giles? Councils have the power, the government would

say they have... You shake your head in disagreement. May have some

important powers and the government, to their credit, had given them much

more powers, but it's still not enough to write this imbalance. You

are raising eyebrows. I would agree, to be honest. I think there are,

certainly with the retaliatory eviction laws, there is a very

narrow time window in which the council can take a step towards this

not happening, about three months. To inspect and decide whether to

serve a notice, to serve the formal notice that timescale for

overstretched and under resourced departments, it just doesn't happen.

Let me read this e-mail from Agnes. We live in a bungalow five bedrooms

or with damp, note central heating. A boarded-up window. The ceiling is

mouldy and damp because there is no ventilation. We have asked the

landlord on several occasions to fix these things but time and time again

he says he will put our rent up if he has to come and sort it out. We

are in fear of getting evicted if we take things further and we've lived

in this state for years, because of that fear. What can we do? Please

help. Let me ask you from the National landlords Association,

clearly broken landlord, what Agnes do? Follow the new law. They should

report the matter to the landlord in writing, that's the first step. If

the landlord doesn't give a reasonable response within 14 days,

which is a plan of action to put things right, they should report the

matter to the council. Damp can be a category one hazard, the council can

issue enforcement action. In the meantime, the council cannot survey

section 21 notice to remove the tenant. Let's keep this in

proportion, because they sensible investor does not actually want to

lose a reliable, paying tenant. They want to maintain the property they

have invested in. So this isn't a problem with the majority of

landlords, it's a minority of rogue landlords and council should

enforce. Giles? It's not necessarily a small problem. The government's

figures showed 20% of the private sector doesn't meet standards. 2%

revenge evictions? 2% have been evicted or threatened but the

proportion of homes that don't meet the standard is much higher. But

going back to Agnes' problem, the question is why is about what Agnes

should do? Why aren't the government stepping in and giving tenants

genuine security and why are we building more high-quality homes, so

people like Agnes don't feel stuck somewhere where they can't afford an

alternative on the conditions they are living in a absolutely

appalling? The government would say they are trying to address those

issues with the housing White Paper we spoke about earlier this week.

Sarah, what is your situation now? We have actually managed to buy a

house. We were in the process at the time of buying, which is why we

extended our tenancy but we nearly lost it because we had nowhere else

to live for that six-month period. Good luck with the house. We were in

the process at the time of buying, which is why we extended our tenancy

but we nearly lost it because we had nowhere else to live for that

six-month period. Good luck with the house-buying. Thank you for coming

on the programme. Thank you all. Police in Greater Manchester say

they're investigating after a young transgender schoolgirl was shot

with a ball bearing The 11-year-old girl was not injured

but her parents say it's just the latest incident of extreme

bullying that their daughter has suffered for five months

because she's transgender. The girls mum, who's asked not to be

named, has been speaking to BBC Radio Manchester

about the moment she found out Last week I went to the school at

11:30am, because I had a prearranged meeting because of an incident that

had happened on Monday. They then told me that my child had been shot

by a BB gun by another pupil. When I finally saw my child, she came into

the room, she was shaking, she sat on the chair rocking and staring

into space. I was completely shocked when I saw her. I spoke about what

had happened and I said I was calling the police, they hadn't

called the police. I also said, why didn't you phone me sooner? I found

out it happened at 9:15am, so this was over two hours later that I

found out my child had been shot with a BB gun. Physically she wasn't

unhurt but mentally and emotionally this has had a huge impact on her.

Our child came home to us in December, after a particularly bad

week of bullying at the beginning of December, and said to us that she

couldn't take any more, she was going to throw herself off a bridge.

That is the worst word that any parent could ever hear. I remember

when she told us that she didn't feel she was in the right body. I'd

read up on the suicide rates of young people who were transgender

and I said, the first thing I said was, my child will not be one of

those children who killed themselves. Goodness me.

With me now is Susie Green, she's the CEO of the charity Mermaids,

which supports parents of transgender children.

Without breaking any confidences, tell us more about this horrific

case? The family came to Mermaids a couple of years ago about how to

support their child. They had been dealing with their child stating

they weren't really a boy, were a girl and became involved with the

parents group. Up until secondary school, things went very well. She

transitioned primary, it was supported really well the school

were really good. Going into secondary school bullying started

almost immediately. The effect it had on the family was horrendous. It

started at a low level, escalated and then mum went into school, talk

to pupils and it seemed to quieten down but then we've had some really

negative press regarding parents of transgender children over the last

few months and we've seen a direct escalation since then. This family

is in bits. It's horrendous. There's nothing worse than hearing your

Child say they don't want to be alive. I've been through that myself

with my own daughter and that's what they are now facing. Every school is

supposed to have an anti-bullying policy. This is failing in this

particular case, clearly. Clearly. And I think as well, the

anti-bullying policies schools have very rarely addressed transgender

pupils or how to deal with transgender pupils in schools are

often completely at a loss of what to do. So they avoid it, rather than

dealing with that. I know that one incident that the mum has reported

back to the parents group, an older boys that they were going to beat up

their daughter and they were allowed to do so because she was a boy and

not really a girl. The school said they couldn't do anything about that

because there were no witnesses. Wow. When this particular girl

arrived at this secondary school, was she open about the fact she was

transgender? I know some children transition from primary to secondary

without telling anybody. They just arrived as a girl or a boy with a

new name. She arrived as a girl and with her

new name and that's what was on the register, but she wasn't, she was

open, because there were a number of pupils who had gone up from primary

school with her, so new about her history. One girl actually went up

to her one time in the corridor and whispered to her, I know you're not

really a girl, I know you're really a boy. Then this young girl then

basically stood and shouted out, just so everybody knows, I'm

transgender. She's an incredible child. This has had a real impact on

her emotional health. We have a statement from school. We are not

naming the school to protect the girl's identity. This matter has

been treated very seriously and the pupil who fired the ball bearing gun

has been permanently excluded. We wish to send a message out to our

community that this behaviour is completely unacceptable and will

result in removal from our school. We've enlisted the support of a

national organisation to help pass further with training of staff... Is

that you? They say Stonewall, they were

contacted but haven't done any work with the school. We are talking

about going in and doing some training but it hasn't been arranged

yet. We have met with the parents of the pupil to apologise to see what

we can do further a school. I think if they'd have addressed the earlier

incidents with far more severity, this probably wouldn't have got to

the stage it's that now. Zero tolerance. Absolutely, zero

tolerance. That's what it should. Anyone dealing with this sort of

level of hate crime, and that's what it is, I hate crime, it shouldn't be

tolerated under any circumstances and this has been allowed to just

escalate as it has. If it had been dealt with properly in the beginning

of this child wouldn't have been damaged so badly by. Thank you very

much, thank you for talking to us. Susie Green, the CEO of the charity

Mermaids, a charity that supports parents of transgender children.

This is the scene in the House of Commons now where the shadow home

secretary Yvette Cooper is shortly to ask an urgent question

on the closure of the programme to welcome child refugees

Known as the Dubs Amendment, we spoke to Lord Dubs earlier, the peer

who campaigned for this to be introduced he told us he's really

disappointed that the scheme is going to be closed at the end of

March. As soon as Yvette Cooper stand up,

we will cross back live to the Commons.

A waiting times in English hospitals are longer than ever.

We'll be getting some of the political reaction.

scientists studying the animals say their eavesdropping has shed

light on the origin of human language.

With the news, here's Ben in the BBC Newsroom.

New figures from NHS England show that in December 86%

of patients were admitted, transferred

or discharged from A within four hours of arrival.

That's well below the standard of 95%, and below November's

Provisional figures leaked to the BBC suggest that last month

the figure went down to 82%, the lowest since

Figures also suggest record numbers of people waited longer than 12

hours for a hospital bed. The shadow Home Secretary Yvette

Cooper is raising an urgent question about the closure of the programme

to welcome unaccompanied child refugees. It was hoped thousands

would benefit but by the time the programme closes next month only 350

will have benefit. Lord Dubs told this programme the decision is a

complete U-turn. New laws introduced last year

to protect tenants in England from so-called "revenge evictions"

aren't working, according to MPs A BBC Freedom of Information request

found that there may be hundreds of thousands of tenants afraid

to report things like damp, faulty electrics and broken boilers,

for fear of being evicted. Downing Street has attempted to play

down an earlier threat by a Government source

that the House of Lords could be abolished if peers tried to block

the Government's bill to begin Last night, the Commons

overwhelmingly backed the legislation

without any amendments. More than 50 Labour MPs defied

Jeremy Corbyn and voted An Australian man has survived

spending hours struggling to keep his nose above water

after his excavator Daniel Miller had been riding

the machine at his remote property north of Sydney when the edge

of the dam gave way, and spent the whole time thinking

about his wife and their That's a summary of the latest

news, join me for BBC Leicester might be flirting

with relegation in the league, but they're through to the FA Cup

5th round today after beating Andy King put Leicester ahead before

Abdoul Camera's deflected Leicester restored their lead

through substitute Wilfred Ndidi, his first goal for the club,

and Demarai Gray's solo goal secured MPs will debate the Football

Associations "failure It follows a motion of no confidence

in the governing body. Parliament will examine

whether the FA is fit for purpose. Britain is aiming to become one

of the world's top five skiing The Winter Olympics in South Korea

start a year today, and the Team GB Chef de Mission says

they can beat their best medal haul Tiger Woods has said

he will "never feel great" again. He's just come back from a second

back operation but pulled out of the Dubai Desert Classic

earlier this month He also admitted there have been

times he didn't think he'd be Those are the headlines for now,

more later on. We will go back to the Commons when

Yvette Cooper asked that question about the closure of the Dubs scheme

to bring unaccompanied child migrants to the UK, as soon as she

stands up to speak we will cross back there.

More now on this morning's top story, the official A figures

for England in December were the worst since records began

Our Health Editor Hugh Pym is here to explain what these figures mean.

These are the benchmarks, that 95% of patients should be assessed

within four hours and that has been missed for more than a year, so

people have got used to that, but we learned that in December it was a

figure of 86.2, the worst since these records began in 2004 and the

target was introduced. Overnight the BBC had a leak on provisional

figures for January which showed it will be even worse, suggested it

was, at 82%. These are the official figures saying December was pretty

bad, we gather from what we have heard from our sources that January

will be even worse. Is there any possibility that the

target could be scrapped all redefined so that it doesn't look as

bad? Work is going on to redefine it

because what ministers are saying is, given the huge volume of

patients coming in, some of whom don't need to be there, is there a

better way of measuring it? They want to come up with something that

measures urgent cases and how many are treated and assessed within four

hours, but it is being made clear that if they scrap the target I have

been referring to it would look like they are trying to evade the problem

so I think they will keep it and come up with an extra one.

I am going to interrupt go back to the House of Commons to hear Yvette

Cooper asking about the dubs scheme. Secretary of State for the Homeland

Department, secretary Amber Rudd. Mr Speaker, the Government takes the

plight of asylum seeking children extremely seriously. That is why we

pledged over ?2.3 billion in aid to the Syrian conflict, our largest

ever humanitarian response to a single crisis. The UK has

contributed significantly to hosting, supporting and protecting

the most vulnerable children affected by the migration crisis. In

the year ending September 2016 week granted asylum or another form of

leave to over 800 children. Of the 4400 children settled through the

Syrian vulnerable persons resettlement scheme so far, around

half our children. Within Europe in 2016 we transferred over 900

unaccompanied asylum seeking children to the UK. This included

more than 750 from France as part of the UK's support for the Calais camp

clearance. And I'm proud that as Home Secretary the UK played such a

key role in supporting the French to safely and compassionately close the

camp. Yesterday, the Government announced that in accordance with

section 67 of the immigration act, we will transfer the specified

number of 350 children pursuant to that section who reasonably meet the