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Hello it's Friday, it's 9am, I'm Joanna Gosling, | :00:00. | :00:11. | |
A woman is under police guard in hospital, after being shot | :00:12. | :00:17. | |
during an anti-terror operation on a residential street | :00:18. | :00:19. | |
Metropolitan Police deputy assistant commissioner Neil Basu | :00:20. | :00:30. | |
says six people have now been arrested. | :00:31. | :00:34. | |
I wanted to reassure the public that this | :00:35. | :00:38. | |
of terrorist activities are being matched | :00:39. | :00:40. | |
by our action, the police and security services | :00:41. | :00:42. | |
across the country and we are making arrests on a nearly daily basis. | :00:43. | :00:45. | |
This is the scene live at New Scotland Yard where the Met police | :00:46. | :00:52. | |
say they are hopeful they have contained the threat. | :00:53. | :00:54. | |
The billion pound cancer drugs fund that was set up to give patients | :00:55. | :00:59. | |
expensive treatments not available on the NHS could even have caused | :01:00. | :01:02. | |
We will talk to a leading expert who looked into the fund and a mum | :01:03. | :01:07. | |
Royal Marine Alexander Blackman, who was jailed | :01:08. | :01:18. | |
Taliban fighter, has been released from prison. | :01:19. | :01:21. | |
He received a life term in 2013 for murder, | :01:22. | :01:25. | |
but his conviction was reduced to manslaughter. | :01:26. | :01:30. | |
His wife spoke to this programme in March when she heard the news | :01:31. | :01:33. | |
I spoke to him shortly afterwards and I think it took a little longer | :01:34. | :01:37. | |
I think he had worked very hard to prepare himself | :01:38. | :01:41. | |
for not such good news, so once it had finally dawned on us | :01:42. | :01:44. | |
that we were going to be together soon, we were very happy. | :01:45. | :01:50. | |
We'll bring you all the details in the next half hour. | :01:51. | :02:00. | |
Hello, welcome to the programme, we're live until 11am this morning. | :02:01. | :02:04. | |
So much to talk about today, please get in touch, | :02:05. | :02:07. | |
So much to talk about today, please get in touch. | :02:08. | :02:10. | |
Porna Bell was married to Rob, a science journalist for three years | :02:11. | :02:13. | |
before she discovered he was a secret heroin user. | :02:14. | :02:18. | |
We have been speaking to her in her first television interview. The idea | :02:19. | :02:25. | |
that the person I love most in the world, that I trusted most in the | :02:26. | :02:29. | |
world would be using something like that not even periodically, but | :02:30. | :02:33. | |
would be an addict was something absolutely unfathomable. I would | :02:34. | :02:36. | |
never have made that connection if he hadn't have told me. You can hear | :02:37. | :02:41. | |
that interview later on. Do get in touch | :02:42. | :02:44. | |
on all the stories we're talking about this morning, | :02:45. | :02:50. | |
use the hashtag Victoria Live and if you text, you will be charged | :02:51. | :02:53. | |
The UK's counter-terrorism unit say they're making arrests | :02:54. | :03:07. | |
The unit's policing coordinator made the comments in the last half hour - | :03:08. | :03:12. | |
saying six people have now been detained in connection | :03:13. | :03:14. | |
with an anti-terror operation in Willesden, north west London, | :03:15. | :03:16. | |
during which a woman was shot and injured by police. | :03:17. | :03:19. | |
It happened hours after a man was arrested for allegedly | :03:20. | :03:21. | |
attempting a terror attack near the Houses of Parliament. | :03:22. | :03:23. | |
Officers say the two incidents aren't connected. | :03:24. | :03:25. | |
A residential street in Willesden, in north-west London. | :03:26. | :03:28. | |
Several gunshots heard, yesterday evening. | :03:29. | :03:29. | |
As armed police raided a terraced house. | :03:30. | :03:33. | |
A woman in her 20s was shot by police. | :03:34. | :03:37. | |
As darkness fell, a police presence remained. | :03:38. | :03:42. | |
The woman who was shot was taken to hospital. | :03:43. | :03:45. | |
She was in a serious but stable condition and is under police guard. | :03:46. | :03:51. | |
A 16-year-old man and a woman aged 20 were arrested at the property. | :03:52. | :03:55. | |
A 20-year-old man was arrested close by and a 43-year-old woman | :03:56. | :03:58. | |
All four on suspicion of the commission, preparation | :03:59. | :04:04. | |
They are in custody in a police station inside London. | :04:05. | :04:13. | |
Police say this was an ongoing counterterrorism investigation. | :04:14. | :04:16. | |
The house had been under observation, as had | :04:17. | :04:18. | |
As the search of the house continued into the night, | :04:19. | :04:24. | |
other searches related to this incident were also being carried out | :04:25. | :04:27. | |
However, police say there is no connection between these arrests | :04:28. | :04:33. | |
Our Correspondent, Sara Smith is at New Scotland Yard. | :04:34. | :04:50. | |
What's the latest? What we've heard from police this morning is that | :04:51. | :04:56. | |
this was an active terror plot that they believe they've boiled. This | :04:57. | :05:01. | |
address in Willesden was under observation by counterterrorism | :05:02. | :05:03. | |
officers and the intelligence they received meant that last night they | :05:04. | :05:09. | |
sent armed officers in. They used CS gas on the premises and during the | :05:10. | :05:13. | |
raid was when this woman in her 20s was injured. This morning, the | :05:14. | :05:19. | |
Assistant Commissioner for the Met, the National coordinator for | :05:20. | :05:23. | |
counterterror tried to reassure the counterterror tried to reassure the | :05:24. | :05:27. | |
public that although terror activity might be on the rise, so is police | :05:28. | :05:34. | |
activity in tackling that. He said that this woman was in a serious but | :05:35. | :05:38. | |
stable condition in hospital and he also talked a bit more about the | :05:39. | :05:40. | |
arrests made. Given the horrors in London of a few | :05:41. | :05:48. | |
short weeks ago and may I say our thoughts are still with the victims | :05:49. | :05:51. | |
and survivors of that horrific day, I wanted to reassure the public that | :05:52. | :05:55. | |
this increased level of terrorist activity is being matched by our | :05:56. | :05:59. | |
actions, the police and security services across the country. We are | :06:00. | :06:03. | |
making arrests on a near daily basis and you saw some of that, yesterday. | :06:04. | :06:09. | |
I also wanted to pay tribute to the bravery of my uniformed colleagues, | :06:10. | :06:11. | |
doing that work to keep us all safe. Police say it was because of | :06:12. | :06:19. | |
intelligence received which meant that they went in, warned last | :06:20. | :06:23. | |
night. It is extremely rare for a woman to be shot by police in this | :06:24. | :06:28. | |
country. People here with many years of experience can't remember the | :06:29. | :06:31. | |
last time it happened. We are told she is in a serious but stable | :06:32. | :06:36. | |
condition, still in hospital. She is yet to be arrested with six other | :06:37. | :06:40. | |
arrests have been made in several addresses around the capital are | :06:41. | :06:43. | |
being searched, today. Thank you very much. | :06:44. | :06:47. | |
Annita is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary | :06:48. | :06:49. | |
The former Royal Marine Alexander Blackman - | :06:50. | :06:53. | |
whose murder conviction for killing a Taliban fighter | :06:54. | :06:55. | |
in Afghanistan was quashed - has been released from prison. | :06:56. | :06:57. | |
Sergeant Blackman - known as "Marine A" - | :06:58. | :06:59. | |
during the case - had his conviction reduced to manslaughter | :07:00. | :07:01. | |
He has served more than three years of a seven-year sentence. | :07:02. | :07:10. | |
A special fund set up to improve patient access to cancer drugs | :07:11. | :07:13. | |
in England has been condemned as a "huge waste of money". | :07:14. | :07:16. | |
The Cancer Drugs Fund, which ran from 2010 | :07:17. | :07:20. | |
until it was replaced last year, cost over ?1 billion. | :07:21. | :07:23. | |
Our medical correspondent Fergus Walsh reports. | :07:24. | :07:27. | |
The Cancer Drugs Fund was set up to pay for expensive medicines | :07:28. | :07:30. | |
In part, it was a political response to repeated | :07:31. | :07:35. | |
negative headlines about patients being denied treatment. | :07:36. | :07:40. | |
Nearly 100,000 patients received drugs, but | :07:41. | :07:44. | |
the study in the journal Annals of Oncology found just one in five | :07:45. | :07:47. | |
treatments delivered a significant benefit, | :07:48. | :07:49. | |
extending life by an average of three months. | :07:50. | :07:53. | |
Researchers say it was an example of policy made | :07:54. | :07:56. | |
The Cancer Drugs Fund was a major missed opportunity | :07:57. | :08:07. | |
for the National Health Service and | :08:08. | :08:09. | |
the cancer community to learn in the real world about the actual | :08:10. | :08:12. | |
A great deal of money, over ?1 billion, was expended on this. | :08:13. | :08:15. | |
And we didn't collect the data to look at individual cancer | :08:16. | :08:18. | |
The study concludes many patients may have suffered | :08:19. | :08:24. | |
But a leading breast cancer charity said the fund has had a totally | :08:25. | :08:29. | |
transformational impact for many, offering precious extra time | :08:30. | :08:31. | |
with loved ones for terminally ill patients. | :08:32. | :08:36. | |
The fund was brought under the remit of the National Institute | :08:37. | :08:39. | |
for Health and Care Excellence last year, so there is greater scrutiny | :08:40. | :08:42. | |
And we'll be speaking to some of those affected by this story | :08:43. | :08:53. | |
President Trump said there was a chance of what he called | :08:54. | :08:59. | |
a "major, major conflict" with North Korea over its nuclear | :09:00. | :09:01. | |
In a radio interview with the Reuters news agency, | :09:02. | :09:04. | |
Mr Trump said he would prefer a diplomatic outcome to persuade | :09:05. | :09:07. | |
But he said that would be very difficult to achieve. | :09:08. | :09:16. | |
Well, there's a chance that we could have a major, | :09:17. | :09:22. | |
a major, major conflict with North Korea, absolutely. | :09:23. | :09:28. | |
The Royal Bank of Scotland has announced a profit of ?259 million | :09:29. | :09:31. | |
in the first three months of the year. | :09:32. | :09:32. | |
This compares to a loss of almost a billion pounds | :09:33. | :09:35. | |
The bank is 72%-owned by the Government. | :09:36. | :09:40. | |
It hasn't made a full-year profit in nine years, | :09:41. | :09:43. | |
as it battles restructuring costs and fines resulting from years | :09:44. | :09:45. | |
of over-expansion before the financial crisis. | :09:46. | :09:51. | |
The car maker, Vauxhall, showed a Wreckless disregard for safetyW | :09:52. | :09:54. | |
The car maker, Vauxhall, showed a wreckless disregard for safetyW | :09:55. | :09:56. | |
over the way it handled a series of fires on its Zafira B | :09:57. | :10:00. | |
A report by the Transport Select Committee found | :10:01. | :10:03. | |
that the company was too slow to act, allowing people to drive | :10:04. | :10:06. | |
The company says safety is its top priority and it has | :10:07. | :10:10. | |
The general election will be a tipping point for education, | :10:11. | :10:17. | |
according to headteachers who warn the stability of the whole | :10:18. | :10:20. | |
A survey by the National Assocation of Headteachers found that nearly | :10:21. | :10:23. | |
three-quarters of heads say their budget will be | :10:24. | :10:25. | |
It comes as economists predict it would cost ?2 billion to freeze | :10:26. | :10:32. | |
school funding in real terms over the next five years. | :10:33. | :10:34. | |
Our Education Correspondent Marc Ashdown reports. | :10:35. | :10:46. | |
A 24-hour strike is underway on Arriva Rail North, | :10:47. | :10:48. | |
as part of an ongoing dispute over the role of guards. | :10:49. | :10:50. | |
It's the third time that members of the Rail, | :10:51. | :10:53. | |
Maritime and Transport Union have walked out in a row over | :10:54. | :10:55. | |
staffing for new trains, which are due to come | :10:56. | :10:57. | |
Arriva Rail North said it was disappointing | :10:58. | :11:00. | |
that the union was unwilling to change its position during talks. | :11:01. | :11:08. | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC News. | :11:09. | :11:10. | |
Thank you very much. Alexander Blackman, marine, released A | :11:11. | :11:20. | |
overnight having his murder conviction overturned to | :11:21. | :11:24. | |
manslaughter. We talk will to someone who was with him in prison | :11:25. | :11:28. | |
as he left, just after midnight last night. The man who managed the | :11:29. | :11:34. | |
campaign to get him released, John Davis, he will join us later. Get in | :11:35. | :11:36. | |
touch. And if you text, you will be charged | :11:37. | :11:37. | |
at the standard network rate. A big game in the Premier League | :11:38. | :11:50. | |
last night, but not exactly a classic? Exactly. Good morning. Like | :11:51. | :11:55. | |
me, if you watched the Manchester derby last night, you will know it | :11:56. | :11:59. | |
was a frenetic encounter, end to end play with all the passion you would | :12:00. | :12:03. | |
expect, perhaps too much passion at times but the DRS sides were lacking | :12:04. | :12:09. | |
in composure and quality. It's best described as attritional and it | :12:10. | :12:11. | |
ended goalless at the Etihad Stadium, leaving City in the | :12:12. | :12:15. | |
all-important final Champions League qualification spot but the main | :12:16. | :12:18. | |
talking point was a straight red card for United midfielder Marouane | :12:19. | :12:23. | |
Fellaini who was sent off for that headbutt on City striker Sergio | :12:24. | :12:27. | |
Aguero. No hesitation from Martin Atkinson, the referee. A game of few | :12:28. | :12:32. | |
chances. At the line by poor finishing Sergio Aguero, could have | :12:33. | :12:35. | |
taken it at the death but couldn't control the finish. The hunt for the | :12:36. | :12:40. | |
top four goes on for United. Jose Mourinho, their manager, after the | :12:41. | :12:43. | |
game, explained what Fellini had made of his red card. | :12:44. | :12:50. | |
We think it is probably not a red card. Cabrera was intelligent, the | :12:51. | :13:02. | |
way he reacted. But he has to control. Five games left for City | :13:03. | :13:09. | |
and United and City hold on to fourth spot, one point ahead of | :13:10. | :13:12. | |
their local rivals in the Premier League. Interestingly, they both | :13:13. | :13:15. | |
have the chance to leapfrog third placed Liverpool that they win all | :13:16. | :13:18. | |
their remaining matches but still a lot to play for as we approach this | :13:19. | :13:23. | |
final month of the season. A lot of excitement around a big boxing match | :13:24. | :13:27. | |
tomorrow, Anthony Joshua in action. What a fight in the offing in London | :13:28. | :13:34. | |
tomorrow night, 90,000 fans will pour into the stadium taking on a | :13:35. | :13:38. | |
man who was world champion for over a decade in Wladimir Klitschko. So | :13:39. | :13:46. | |
many questions and factors in an intriguing contest. At 41 years old, | :13:47. | :13:51. | |
does Wladimir Klitschko have what it takes to take on Joshua? It is | :13:52. | :13:55. | |
Joshua's 90th professional fight, does he have the experience to take | :13:56. | :14:00. | |
a beat man -- to beat a man that reigned supreme for so long in the | :14:01. | :14:03. | |
heavyweight division. Answers tomorrow night. Squaring up after | :14:04. | :14:06. | |
their public work-out and press conference yesterday. The build-up | :14:07. | :14:09. | |
has been pretty cordial between the two of them, no real predictions | :14:10. | :14:14. | |
from either although Wladimir Klitschko has made one can he is | :14:15. | :14:17. | |
keeping his memory cards close to his chest, take a look. On this USB | :14:18. | :14:25. | |
stick I recorded a video last week. And the outcome of the fight. List | :14:26. | :14:32. | |
stick is going to be integrated in my robe, which I'm going to wear | :14:33. | :14:33. | |
this Saturday night. Sealed. Do not ask me, after the fight, what | :14:34. | :14:47. | |
is on this stick. I would be asking! The only person who will find out is | :14:48. | :14:51. | |
the one who grabs that robe at an auction after the fight. Wladimir | :14:52. | :14:55. | |
Klitschko says it is up to them if they want to reveal what the | :14:56. | :14:59. | |
contents of the video are. It is tough. You will have much more on it | :15:00. | :15:02. | |
in the programme throughout the morning but it will be a very tough | :15:03. | :15:06. | |
one. Interesting to see if Anthony Joshua can do it. I want to ask, | :15:07. | :15:11. | |
that we are not allowed to ask! He seemed pretty serious, I wouldn't | :15:12. | :15:12. | |
ask him! A special fund for cancer drugs set | :15:13. | :15:17. | |
up to help give patients access to treatment not available | :15:18. | :15:20. | |
on the NHS has been criticised The NHS Cancer Drugs Fund | :15:21. | :15:22. | |
ran from 2010 to 2016, It was set-up to give quicker access | :15:23. | :15:26. | |
to expensive drugs that hadn't yet been recommended by Nice - | :15:27. | :15:35. | |
the body in charge of Among the drugs it's approved | :15:36. | :15:37. | |
are Perjeta and Kadcyla for women with advanced | :15:38. | :15:42. | |
breast cancer, which we've covered | :15:43. | :15:45. | |
before on the programme. We'll be hearing shortly from one | :15:46. | :15:47. | |
patient who benefitted from the fund and says it made a huge difference | :15:48. | :15:50. | |
to her life. We'll also be joined by one | :15:51. | :15:52. | |
of the report's authors, who have described the programme as "a huge | :15:53. | :15:55. | |
waste of money" and a But what else could | :15:56. | :15:58. | |
?1.27 billion pay Well, it could fund 10,000 nurses, | :15:59. | :16:02. | |
or 2,500 hospital consultants. It could also fund a one-off pay | :16:03. | :16:10. | |
rise for every member of NHS The Conservatives, who set up | :16:11. | :16:21. | |
the fund, said it gave patients Let's speak now to Bonnie Fox, | :16:22. | :16:26. | |
who has incurable cancer and takes one of the drugs approved | :16:27. | :16:30. | |
by the Cancer Drugs Fund. Also here, Professor Richard | :16:31. | :16:32. | |
Sullivan, one of the authors of the report from the Institute | :16:33. | :16:34. | |
of Cancer Policy at And Mia Rosenblatt, assistant | :16:35. | :16:37. | |
director of policy and campaigns Thank you all very much for coming | :16:38. | :16:51. | |
in. Bonnie, Metellus first of all what you have been given as a result | :16:52. | :17:04. | |
the fund. I have been on herceptin and perjeta combined. I have been | :17:05. | :17:09. | |
able to carry on my life relatively normally since I was diagnosed in | :17:10. | :17:15. | |
2015. From that diagnosis I am functioning fairly normally. I have | :17:16. | :17:20. | |
returned to work. I have eight to macro year old son and can perform | :17:21. | :17:24. | |
my role as a busy month, a wife and a daughter. These drugs have enabled | :17:25. | :17:31. | |
me to do that. The low side effects of the drugs mean I have not | :17:32. | :17:36. | |
required any hospitalisation and do not have any side effects from them | :17:37. | :17:41. | |
I can carry on relatively normally. Without the fund he would not have | :17:42. | :17:46. | |
had those drugs? I would not have had perjeta. The to macro drugs | :17:47. | :18:03. | |
combined have meant I am still alive. You have been looking into | :18:04. | :18:07. | |
what the fans were spending money on and the impact. You are not at all | :18:08. | :18:18. | |
convinced. -- the fund was spending money on. There is this clinically | :18:19. | :18:27. | |
meaningful benefit. There is nothing wrong with the CDF in principle for | :18:28. | :18:32. | |
particularly expensive medicines which had not yet had Nice approval. | :18:33. | :18:41. | |
We could not follow what the outcomes. Many patients do as we | :18:42. | :18:44. | |
showed from the study, did not do well on those particular drugs but | :18:45. | :18:48. | |
we did not learn about that. What we are doing is pouring more and more | :18:49. | :18:52. | |
money into giving patients drugs that we really were not learning | :18:53. | :18:57. | |
from. I guess, at the end of the day, the general point with patient | :18:58. | :19:03. | |
access schemes of fairness. In the future thinking of opening up beyond | :19:04. | :19:07. | |
medicines to include surgery and radiotherapy. It is about making | :19:08. | :19:12. | |
sure clinically meaningful drugs like this are used in the NHS. Was | :19:13. | :19:18. | |
it a failure of the people running it? It was a failure of looking | :19:19. | :19:24. | |
properly at the outcomes of the drugs being prescribed. That is | :19:25. | :19:29. | |
basic, why did not happen? That is the issue, finding out why it did | :19:30. | :19:37. | |
happen. Now the CDF has been incorporated into the Nice process. | :19:38. | :19:42. | |
You need to make sure you follow up patients very closely to see those | :19:43. | :19:47. | |
who really benefit and to put more money into those. For those drugs | :19:48. | :19:50. | |
which are not showing any benefit, to stop funding their eyes and put | :19:51. | :19:54. | |
it into a different area. It is about research. The fund has gone. | :19:55. | :20:01. | |
Does that mean you will continue to get the treatment you have been | :20:02. | :20:04. | |
having? I will continue with the treatment. My next drug is up for | :20:05. | :20:12. | |
review. The initial decision is that it will not be funded. We're working | :20:13. | :20:16. | |
really hard to try to reverse that decision. The problem with this | :20:17. | :20:21. | |
report which has been released, it is generalising and making a | :20:22. | :20:25. | |
sweeping statement that the CDF has not been working for some it is not | :20:26. | :20:29. | |
looking at those individual drugs which are working. It is insulting | :20:30. | :20:32. | |
for those of us who are doing so well on it. There are many of us who | :20:33. | :20:39. | |
are doing well on them. It is damaging to our campaign to try to | :20:40. | :20:45. | |
save the drugs and make sure they are funded on the NHS. We do not | :20:46. | :20:50. | |
know if future patients will be able to get perjeta. If you are on the | :20:51. | :20:53. | |
treatment you will continue to get it that we do not know what will | :20:54. | :20:59. | |
happen in the future. The fund was set up for a short amount of time | :21:00. | :21:04. | |
very deliberate lead to try to get drugs through which were struggling | :21:05. | :21:10. | |
to get through Nice like perjeta. Why were they struggling? It is part | :21:11. | :21:16. | |
of the Nice process. It takes into account different factors and comes | :21:17. | :21:20. | |
up with a yes, or a no, as to whether the drugs were available. | :21:21. | :21:25. | |
The drugs are available to people with incurable cancer. In the case | :21:26. | :21:30. | |
of perjeta, it is a combination drug. Whatever the manufacturer | :21:31. | :21:37. | |
says, it is not cost-effective. That shows there is something not quite | :21:38. | :21:41. | |
nice in the system. The process was going to be looked at more broadly. | :21:42. | :21:47. | |
The wider reform did not come. The end of the life of the cancer drug | :21:48. | :21:55. | |
fund came. Now it has gone back into Nice and does not exist in the same | :21:56. | :21:59. | |
way. What we really need to look at is how we can more broadly reform | :22:00. | :22:03. | |
the system so we are not costing the NHS more money but we're getting | :22:04. | :22:07. | |
more drugs through. There is an opportunity through the agreement | :22:08. | :22:10. | |
that pharmaceutical companies make with the Department of Health called | :22:11. | :22:16. | |
the Pharmaceutical Pricing Agreement, is where we could get | :22:17. | :22:20. | |
drugs available with no extra cost. That will be renegotiated in the | :22:21. | :22:23. | |
next year and that is where we should be focusing. It is a horrible | :22:24. | :22:28. | |
debate when it centres on, what price do put on life? Those are the | :22:29. | :22:33. | |
fundamentals that get looked at. We are all in agreement. We want drugs | :22:34. | :22:38. | |
which benefit all technologies to get into the NHS. This is about | :22:39. | :22:44. | |
accommodation and solidarity. Governments that are prepared to pay | :22:45. | :22:49. | |
fair prices for the wealth of the country, for medicines and other | :22:50. | :22:54. | |
technologies. You need companies setting their prices as well. Part | :22:55. | :22:58. | |
of this is negotiations around tax relief and negotiations in this | :22:59. | :23:04. | |
country around the sort of prices they will offer. We are trying to | :23:05. | :23:10. | |
get new drugs through and new technologies through for patients | :23:11. | :23:14. | |
that will drive improvements in outcomes and be of really good value | :23:15. | :23:18. | |
to society as a whole. We are all on the same page. At the beginning we | :23:19. | :23:23. | |
outlined what the money going into the fund could have paid for in | :23:24. | :23:28. | |
terms of staff within the NHS. That does not work right. It comes back | :23:29. | :23:35. | |
to the point of how you trade of peoples lives. That is not fair. You | :23:36. | :23:39. | |
cannot say we could have spent the money on this. The money was spent. | :23:40. | :23:44. | |
Some patients benefited fantastically but a lot did not. We | :23:45. | :23:48. | |
have to learn from where we made mistakes with that particular access | :23:49. | :23:52. | |
scheme and the way it was run and make sure that does not happen the | :23:53. | :23:58. | |
future. When you had your criticisms of the fund, it was that money could | :23:59. | :24:03. | |
be better spent. It is not that harm was done to anyone. It is the way we | :24:04. | :24:07. | |
watched and reviewed patients who were treated with the drugs will do | :24:08. | :24:10. | |
we could have learned much earlier which drugs are working and which | :24:11. | :24:14. | |
were not. That was the issue at the end of the day. We have to properly | :24:15. | :24:19. | |
audit these access schemes. Patients expect that as well, to learn from | :24:20. | :24:25. | |
our clinical experience. When you talked about campaigning for drugs, | :24:26. | :24:28. | |
you are in a situation where you have terminal cancer and you are | :24:29. | :24:34. | |
fighting to try to get extra life, better quality of life. How does it | :24:35. | :24:39. | |
feel to be fighting at the same time as living with what he while living | :24:40. | :24:46. | |
with? It is fairly exhausting. It is a shame because I feel so well at | :24:47. | :24:52. | |
the moment. A life with secondary breast cancer is full of anxiety and | :24:53. | :24:58. | |
uncertainty. It is very stressful. Having the additional worry of, will | :24:59. | :25:02. | |
my next drug be in place? It is a huge worry. I want to enjoy my life. | :25:03. | :25:08. | |
I am feeling so well. I do not want to worry, it is the next drug there | :25:09. | :25:10. | |
for me? Thank you for coming in. We've had this statement from | :25:11. | :25:18. | |
the Conservative Party, it says: That statement from the | :25:19. | :25:40. | |
Conservatives. We'll hear from a successful | :25:41. | :25:43. | |
journalist who found out her husband was a heroin addict, | :25:44. | :25:46. | |
she'd had no idea for three years. Poorna Bell is now opening up | :25:47. | :25:49. | |
about what happened to her husband Rob, and is sharing her story | :25:50. | :25:53. | |
with this programme. After serving more than three years | :25:54. | :25:57. | |
into a seven-year prison sentence, the Royal Marine, | :25:58. | :26:00. | |
Sergeant Alexander Blackman, His life term sentence for murder | :26:01. | :26:05. | |
for shooting dead a wounded Taliban fighter had been | :26:06. | :26:10. | |
reduced to manslaughter. It followed a campaign | :26:11. | :26:17. | |
led by his wife, Claire Blackman. In an exclusive interview | :26:18. | :26:19. | |
in September 2015, Claire told us about the moment her husband | :26:20. | :26:22. | |
was arrested. The first we knew was the knock | :26:23. | :26:24. | |
on the door, for him to be arrested. It was a quiet weekend morning, | :26:25. | :26:27. | |
and there was a knock on the door. I opened the door and invited | :26:28. | :26:37. | |
the individuals in, And as they came in my husband came | :26:38. | :26:42. | |
downstairs and they read out the charge of breaches of the Geneva | :26:43. | :26:48. | |
Convention, at that stage. And did you know | :26:49. | :26:57. | |
what that meant, then? When did it become clear | :26:58. | :26:59. | |
that he was going to be I think as the investigation | :27:00. | :27:05. | |
continued, the charge changed a week It was something, as I said, | :27:06. | :27:10. | |
it was totally out of the blue. Last month, Court Martial Appeal | :27:11. | :27:26. | |
judges reduced his sentence after being told Sergeant Blackman | :27:27. | :27:30. | |
had a recognised mental illness at the time of the killing | :27:31. | :27:34. | |
in September 2011. The judge's decision meant he would | :27:35. | :27:41. | |
be released in a matter of weeks. Claire Blackman was in court | :27:42. | :27:47. | |
and spoke to her husband via video I think it took a little longer | :27:48. | :27:50. | |
for the realisation to hit. I think he'd worked very | :27:51. | :27:54. | |
hard to prepare himself for not such good news, | :27:55. | :27:56. | |
so once it had finally dawned on us that we were going to be together | :27:57. | :27:59. | |
soon, we were very happy. And is it true, via video | :28:00. | :28:03. | |
link, he managed to get The court staff have been | :28:04. | :28:05. | |
absolutely fantastic. We've been a regular appearance | :28:06. | :28:14. | |
in Court 4 and the staff have got to know us and look | :28:15. | :28:18. | |
after us very well. And they allow us at the end | :28:19. | :28:20. | |
of the video link to have a quick I did warn him that the court had | :28:21. | :28:23. | |
not yet cleared, but yes, The campaign to release | :28:24. | :28:29. | |
Sergeant Blackman was managed He was at Erlestoke Prison | :28:30. | :28:41. | |
in the early hours of this We can speak to him now, live from | :28:42. | :28:52. | |
Bristol. Thank you for joining us. What was the moment like? Good | :28:53. | :28:56. | |
morning. It was absolutely fantastic. I was not actually | :28:57. | :29:00. | |
outside the prison, I was with care when the police brought to Clare the | :29:01. | :29:11. | |
secret location they are staying at the moment. It was surreal to see | :29:12. | :29:17. | |
them both relaxed. It was an amazing moment for what has been a very long | :29:18. | :29:21. | |
three and a half years for everyone involved. It made it all worthwhile, | :29:22. | :29:27. | |
without a shadow of a doubt. What did he say? He did not say a zero, | :29:28. | :29:35. | |
to be fair. This is probably about half past to this morning. He just | :29:36. | :29:42. | |
said it is very surreal really. He was commenting on the car journey | :29:43. | :29:47. | |
and the fact he has not been in a car for a few years will do that in | :29:48. | :29:52. | |
itself was very strange. It will take a bit of time to transition | :29:53. | :29:58. | |
back into normality for him. Were they emotional? Of course they were. | :29:59. | :30:04. | |
It has been the end to a very horrific period for them. I believe | :30:05. | :30:09. | |
there will be an exclusive interview by the Daily Mail which will come | :30:10. | :30:15. | |
out tomorrow, detailing all of this. Why did it all happen in the early | :30:16. | :30:17. | |
hours of the morning? It was to miss the unwanted media. | :30:18. | :30:30. | |
It's very easy for us from a campaign perspective to understand | :30:31. | :30:33. | |
how high profile this has been, how the media have been outside the | :30:34. | :30:36. | |
courts outside Parliament, outside Birmingham. But Al hasn't been | :30:37. | :30:43. | |
subjected to any of this. To try and keep him away from a lot of that at | :30:44. | :30:49. | |
this early stage, for us, for his wife and himself, it was very | :30:50. | :30:54. | |
important. How and why did you get involved? More than anything else, | :30:55. | :30:58. | |
obviously, he is a fellow Royal Marine. Nobody else was doing | :30:59. | :31:02. | |
anything. That's what really bugged me. It's not what we are about as | :31:03. | :31:06. | |
Royal Marines, as service men. We look at each other. The more and | :31:07. | :31:11. | |
more we looked into the gates, the more holes we could find in the | :31:12. | :31:15. | |
court-martial -- looked into the case, the more. We reached just over | :31:16. | :31:23. | |
100,000 signatures, which secured the Parliamentary debate which got | :31:24. | :31:27. | |
an MP involved and Frederick Forsyth from the Daily Mail and the | :31:28. | :31:34. | |
fantastic legal team. It's been an incredible journey and it couldn't | :31:35. | :31:38. | |
have been done with -- without the amazing public support and the will | :31:39. | :31:41. | |
Marine 's family backing support. It's been amazing, the whole thing | :31:42. | :31:46. | |
has been brilliant. As you say, it has unfolded over a long time and | :31:47. | :31:49. | |
those on the outside have been well aware of what's been going on and | :31:50. | :31:54. | |
experiencing it. He is going to face that onslaught. What will they do, | :31:55. | :32:01. | |
now? Now it will be a bit of a transition period. They will have a | :32:02. | :32:08. | |
good few weeks to themselves. Decide what he wants to do next. In the | :32:09. | :32:14. | |
coming weeks, coming months. It must be such a strange feeling being able | :32:15. | :32:18. | |
to plan your future whereas a month ago he thought he would have another | :32:19. | :32:21. | |
four and a half to five and a half years serving. It will take a bit of | :32:22. | :32:27. | |
time to decide what his next steps are, really. Thank you for joining | :32:28. | :32:28. | |
us. My pleasure. As the UK's counter-terrorism unit | :32:29. | :32:32. | |
say they're making arrests on a "near daily" basis, | :32:33. | :32:35. | |
we'll be live at New Scotland Yard One of the biggest boxing fights on | :32:36. | :32:47. | |
British soil as Anthony Joshua and Wladimir Klitschko meet in the ring. | :32:48. | :32:52. | |
But who will be crowned heavyweight world champion? We will speak to a | :32:53. | :32:54. | |
boxer who sparred with both fighters. | :32:55. | :33:01. | |
When I was like 17, 18, it was about being cool, | :33:02. | :33:04. | |
And now I'm fighting Wlad, everything that I've done over | :33:05. | :33:09. | |
the last three years, it's built me up to now. | :33:10. | :33:11. | |
I found out what I need to do, what works, what don't work. | :33:12. | :33:14. | |
Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of todays news. | :33:15. | :33:24. | |
The UK's counter-terrorism unit say they're making arrests | :33:25. | :33:28. | |
The unit's policing coordinator made the comments in the last hour - | :33:29. | :33:33. | |
saying six people have now been detained in connection | :33:34. | :33:37. | |
with an anti-terror operation in Willesden, north-west | :33:38. | :33:39. | |
London, during which a woman was shot and injured by police. | :33:40. | :33:42. | |
It happened hours after a man was arrested for allegedly | :33:43. | :33:44. | |
attempting a terror attack near the Houses of Parliament. | :33:45. | :33:46. | |
Officers say the two incidents aren't connected. | :33:47. | :33:54. | |
We will be live at Scotland Yard, soon. | :33:55. | :33:59. | |
Given the horrors in London of a few short weeks ago and may I say our | :34:00. | :34:03. | |
thoughts are still with the victims and survivors of that horrific day, | :34:04. | :34:06. | |
I wanted to reassure the public that this increased level | :34:07. | :34:08. | |
of terrorist activity is being matched by our | :34:09. | :34:10. | |
actions, the police and security services across the country. | :34:11. | :34:14. | |
We are making arrests on a near daily basis | :34:15. | :34:16. | |
and you saw some of that, yesterday. | :34:17. | :34:18. | |
I also wanted to pay tribute to the bravery | :34:19. | :34:20. | |
of my uniformed colleagues, doing that work to keep us all safe. | :34:21. | :34:30. | |
We will be back at Scotland Yard in a moment. | :34:31. | :34:33. | |
A fund set up to improve patient access to cancer drugs in England | :34:34. | :34:36. | |
has been condemned by researchers as a "huge waste of money". | :34:37. | :34:38. | |
The Cancer Drugs Fund ran from 2010 until last year and cost | :34:39. | :34:41. | |
nearly ?1.3 billion, but a new study by King's College | :34:42. | :34:44. | |
London claims most of the drugs failed to show clinical benefit, | :34:45. | :34:46. | |
and many patients may have suffered unnecessary side effects. | :34:47. | :34:49. | |
However, one leading breast cancer charity said the fund had | :34:50. | :34:51. | |
The former Royal Marine Alexander Blackman, | :34:52. | :34:58. | |
whose murder conviction for killing a Taliban fighter in | :34:59. | :35:00. | |
Afghanistan was quashed, has been released from prison. | :35:01. | :35:07. | |
Sergeant Blackman, known as "Marine A" | :35:08. | :35:08. | |
during the case, had his conviction reduced to manslaughter | :35:09. | :35:11. | |
He has served more than three years of a seven-year sentence. | :35:12. | :35:16. | |
The car maker Vauxhall showed a "reckless disregard for safety" | :35:17. | :35:19. | |
over the way it handled a series of fires on its Zafira B | :35:20. | :35:22. | |
A report by the Transport Select Committee found | :35:23. | :35:27. | |
that the company was too slow to act, allowing people to drive | :35:28. | :35:30. | |
The company says safety is its top priority and it has | :35:31. | :35:33. | |
When they did act and said they'd put things right, cars were still | :35:34. | :35:45. | |
And even at that point, they didn't recall the cars fully. | :35:46. | :35:52. | |
And this is totally unacceptable and is putting people's | :35:53. | :35:54. | |
Within the past few minutes, the office for National to statistics | :35:55. | :36:07. | |
has released the latest GDP figures -- office for National statistics. | :36:08. | :36:13. | |
The economy grew by 0.4% in the first quarter of this year. | :36:14. | :36:18. | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10.00. | :36:19. | :36:22. | |
It was all about the race for fourth Champions League spot | :36:23. | :36:32. | |
last night in the Manchester derby but the match didn't | :36:33. | :36:35. | |
A moment of madness was the main talking point, | :36:36. | :36:40. | |
United's Marouane Fellaini was sent off after headbutting City | :36:41. | :36:42. | |
That happened 14 seconds after he'd been booked for another foul | :36:43. | :36:46. | |
The goalless draw meant City and United stay fourth | :36:47. | :36:49. | |
Former Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard is to take charge | :36:50. | :36:52. | |
of the club's under 18's side from next season. | :36:53. | :36:55. | |
Gerrard returned to Liverpool's academy in February | :36:56. | :36:56. | |
Anthony Joshua says he won't be affected | :36:57. | :37:01. | |
by Wladimir Klitschko's mind games ahead of their heavyweight title | :37:02. | :37:03. | |
Klitchscko says he's made a video prediction but won't reveal it. | :37:04. | :37:09. | |
Joshua says "he's heard it all before." | :37:10. | :37:12. | |
And today is the first day of cycling's Tour De Yorkshire. | :37:13. | :37:15. | |
The first stage goes from Bridlington to Scarborough. | :37:16. | :37:17. | |
Thomas Voeckler is the men's defending champion while Britain's | :37:18. | :37:19. | |
Lizzie Deignan is hoping for victory in the women's race. | :37:20. | :37:31. | |
Something on the Joshua fight just after 10am as well. Do you think he | :37:32. | :37:38. | |
is predicting he is going to lose? I doubt it very much! We will talk a | :37:39. | :37:40. | |
bit more about that fight, later. Let's get more on our top story, | :37:41. | :37:42. | |
and police say they've foiled an active terrorist plot | :37:43. | :37:45. | |
after carrying out an armed raid A female suspect was shot | :37:46. | :37:48. | |
during the operation and is in a serious but stable | :37:49. | :37:50. | |
condition in hospital. Our correspondent Sara Smith | :37:51. | :37:53. | |
is at the Metropolitan Police What is the latest? Within the last | :37:54. | :38:08. | |
hour, police confirmed they believe they have foiled an active terror | :38:09. | :38:13. | |
plot, planned for UK soil. Anti-terrorist officers had this | :38:14. | :38:18. | |
address in Willesden in north London under surveillance and Jude to | :38:19. | :38:20. | |
intelligence they received, they tell us, they went in, armed last | :38:21. | :38:25. | |
night, first of all firing CS gas into the premises. It was during | :38:26. | :38:30. | |
this raid that this woman in her 20s was shot and injured and she remains | :38:31. | :38:35. | |
in hospital in a serious but stable condition. The National coordinator | :38:36. | :38:42. | |
for counterterror, said today that while terror activities may be on | :38:43. | :38:45. | |
the rise, police activity was also going up to deal with it. | :38:46. | :38:50. | |
In Whitehall, a 27-year-old man was arrested. They stopped and searched | :38:51. | :39:00. | |
him as part of an ongoing counterterrorism investigation. He | :39:01. | :39:04. | |
remains in custody, having been arrested for terrorism act offences | :39:05. | :39:08. | |
and possession of offensive weapons. There are two ongoing searches of | :39:09. | :39:11. | |
addresses in London as part of that investigation. In our second and | :39:12. | :39:19. | |
unrelated investigation, last night at approximately 7pm, our highly | :39:20. | :39:22. | |
trained firearms officers carried out a specialist entry into an | :39:23. | :39:27. | |
address in Harlesden Road. We have that under observation as part of a | :39:28. | :39:31. | |
current counterterrorism investigation. The armed entry was | :39:32. | :39:35. | |
necessary due to the nature of the intelligence we were dealing with | :39:36. | :39:38. | |
and involved armed officers firing CS gas into the address. During the | :39:39. | :39:44. | |
course of that operation, one of the subjects, a woman, was shot by | :39:45. | :39:52. | |
police. She remains in hospital. I can say her condition is serious but | :39:53. | :39:55. | |
it is stable. Because of her condition, she has not yet been | :39:56. | :39:58. | |
arrested and we are monitoring her condition closely. As is routine in | :39:59. | :40:06. | |
these situations, we have informed the Independent Police Complaints | :40:07. | :40:09. | |
Commission. In total, in that second operation, six people have now been | :40:10. | :40:13. | |
arrested in connection with the investigation, five at or near the | :40:14. | :40:17. | |
address in North London and one in Kent. The two further arrests were | :40:18. | :40:22. | |
made when a man and a woman, both aged 28, returned to the address | :40:23. | :40:28. | |
later tonight last night. There are search is ongoing at three London | :40:29. | :40:31. | |
addresses, including Harlesden Road as part of that investigation. -- | :40:32. | :40:35. | |
returned to the address later that night. Due to the arrests made | :40:36. | :40:38. | |
yesterday, in both cases I believe we have contained the threats they | :40:39. | :40:44. | |
have posed. With the attack in Westminster on the 22nd of March so | :40:45. | :40:48. | |
fresh in people's minds, I would like to reassure everyone that | :40:49. | :40:51. | |
across the country, officers are working around the clock to identify | :40:52. | :40:54. | |
those people who intend to commit acts of terror. | :40:55. | :40:58. | |
To recap, six arrests in all, in connection with last night's raid, | :40:59. | :41:03. | |
three of them men, three of them women. All still in custody. The | :41:04. | :41:08. | |
woman who was shot is in hospital in a serious but stable condition and | :41:09. | :41:12. | |
is under arrest. It is extremely rare for a woman to be shot by | :41:13. | :41:17. | |
police in this country. In fact, nobody here can remember the last | :41:18. | :41:22. | |
time it happened. Searches are ongoing and three London addresses | :41:23. | :41:24. | |
in connection with last night's raid and police say they believe they | :41:25. | :41:27. | |
have contained the threat they posed. Following the arrest in | :41:28. | :41:32. | |
Westminster yesterday where a man was arrested not far from here, two | :41:33. | :41:38. | |
addresses in London are also being searched. The Deputy Assistant | :41:39. | :41:42. | |
Commissioner Neil Basu, who we just heard from, he described it as being | :41:43. | :41:47. | |
an extraordinary day in London. He also thanked the general public and | :41:48. | :41:51. | |
said that with the best will in the world from police, it was | :41:52. | :41:54. | |
communities and people getting in touch that would help him fight | :41:55. | :41:55. | |
terrorism. Thank you. Amid the noise, news and occasional | :41:56. | :41:59. | |
name-calling surrounding the General Election, | :42:00. | :42:01. | |
you might not have noticed that next week, for many of us, | :42:02. | :42:03. | |
there's a local one too. All the council areas | :42:04. | :42:06. | |
in Scotland and Wales, and many counties across England | :42:07. | :42:09. | |
are up for grabs. Not only that but in six areas, | :42:10. | :42:14. | |
Greater Manchester, Liverpool, Tees Valley, Cambridgeshire | :42:15. | :42:16. | |
and Peterborough, West of England and the West Midlands, | :42:17. | :42:19. | |
for the first time, they'll be That's a Mayor that | :42:20. | :42:23. | |
represents an area comprising a number of councils, | :42:24. | :42:28. | |
a bit like in London. Let's speak to some of our | :42:29. | :42:30. | |
political correspondents In Scotland, we've got Brian Taylor, | :42:31. | :42:32. | |
in Wales, Tomos Morgan and Nina Warhurst is in | :42:33. | :42:38. | |
the North West of England, where they're voting for two | :42:39. | :42:40. | |
of the Metro mayors. Brian, tell us about the picture in | :42:41. | :42:49. | |
Scotland. These elections matter in themselves, 1200 councillors in all | :42:50. | :42:55. | |
32 Scottish local authorities, they run the schools, the social work, | :42:56. | :42:58. | |
they take when the bin -- take away the bins and salt the roads. They | :42:59. | :43:02. | |
are significant themselves but completely subsumed within the UK | :43:03. | :43:06. | |
general election. They will be looking for pointers from the | :43:07. | :43:09. | |
Scottish local elections as to how things might be at the UK general | :43:10. | :43:14. | |
election in Scotland. 2001, last time these councils were contested | :43:15. | :43:17. | |
and the SNP were narrowly in the lead both in terms of voting share | :43:18. | :43:27. | |
and in councillors. Labour actually ended up, because of the | :43:28. | :43:29. | |
proportional voting system, you have to haggle as to who runs the | :43:30. | :43:32. | |
councils, Labour actually ended up in sole control of more councils | :43:33. | :43:34. | |
than the SNP. Will that be repeated now? Since then, the SNP have surged | :43:35. | :43:37. | |
in the UK general election and Hollywood elections and there has | :43:38. | :43:40. | |
now been a sign of a revival of the Tories. The Tories are keen to | :43:41. | :43:44. | |
supplant labour as the second party. One big one to look out for would-be | :43:45. | :43:49. | |
the great city of Glasgow, a Labour stronghold since everyone remembers | :43:50. | :43:53. | |
but the SNP took seats there from both Westminster and Holyrood. Could | :43:54. | :43:56. | |
they do that again at the Council bubble? Another thing to watch, the | :43:57. | :44:02. | |
individual wards will give the individual candidates pointers as to | :44:03. | :44:06. | |
the way things are shifting. The trend of voting in Scotland. That | :44:07. | :44:10. | |
will be translated into endeavours and efforts for the UK general | :44:11. | :44:15. | |
election itself. I stress that these elections matter in themselves. I | :44:16. | :44:17. | |
hand over to my colleague in Wales. 22 local elections in Wales. 1200 | :44:18. | :44:30. | |
seats and over 3400 and dates. The First Minister said when Theresa May | :44:31. | :44:33. | |
announced the general election, that would have an impact on the local | :44:34. | :44:36. | |
elections across the UK. Labour has always been strong in | :44:37. | :44:44. | |
Wales, they hold a number of the councils across Wales. In a way, | :44:45. | :44:48. | |
they have the most to lose. I will run some of the key battle grounds | :44:49. | :44:53. | |
through with you, Cardiff, the capital, by far the biggest local | :44:54. | :44:55. | |
authority. Rabies control after taking it from the Lib Dem Plaid | :44:56. | :45:01. | |
Cymru coalition -- Labour is in control after taking. Infighting in | :45:02. | :45:04. | |
labour in the last few years, they have had a change of leadership so | :45:05. | :45:08. | |
they will be under a three pronged attack from Plaid Cymru from the | :45:09. | :45:11. | |
west of Cardiff, the Tories in the north and the Lib Dems in the | :45:12. | :45:15. | |
central. They will battle to keep hold of this biggest council across | :45:16. | :45:16. | |
Wales. Ten of the councillors quit the | :45:17. | :45:34. | |
party in 2015. They'll be back in to take it back as the Tories worry | :45:35. | :45:39. | |
battling to make some gains. Another key area for them. In the West, a | :45:40. | :45:51. | |
classic bike between Plaid Cymru and Labour put Labour were in control in | :45:52. | :45:55. | |
the last election but Labour will be trying to make some ground. That is | :45:56. | :46:03. | |
the situation in Wales. Now to my colleague in the North West of | :46:04. | :46:10. | |
England. The big two votes are the election of the Metro Mayor. The | :46:11. | :46:17. | |
Liverpool city region, plus Merseyside and a borough of Holton | :46:18. | :46:21. | |
in Cheshire. They will elect mayors for the first time was that this is | :46:22. | :46:26. | |
history in the making. The powers that are being handed down from | :46:27. | :46:30. | |
Westminster are not significant. The mayor and the leader of the boroughs | :46:31. | :46:36. | |
will take control of transport, housing, strategic planning. In | :46:37. | :46:39. | |
greater Manchester the Mayor will become the head of the police | :46:40. | :46:44. | |
service, the PCC, as well as becoming head of the Fire And Rescue | :46:45. | :46:47. | |
Services. When you go and speak to people, are they are where it is | :46:48. | :46:54. | |
happening? Not really. There is lots of confusion. People get it confused | :46:55. | :46:58. | |
with the guy with the chain. When you explain it will be like Boris | :46:59. | :47:01. | |
Johnson used to beat McKenna Livingstone used to be, there is a | :47:02. | :47:07. | |
bit of understanding but there is concern that turnout will be low for | :47:08. | :47:15. | |
these elections. It is on a knife edge. It slips between the | :47:16. | :47:19. | |
Conservatives and the Labour Party. It has marginal Labour control at | :47:20. | :47:24. | |
the moment. Within Lancashire there are five marginal constituencies for | :47:25. | :47:28. | |
the general election. That is often seen as a bellwether area and could | :47:29. | :47:31. | |
be seen as a prediction of how the general election will go. Thank you | :47:32. | :47:40. | |
all very much. Listening in, Tony Travers, from the London School of | :47:41. | :47:44. | |
economic and political science. Let's talk about turnout in the | :47:45. | :47:48. | |
local elections. So many elections at the moment. We have been | :47:49. | :47:54. | |
bombarded. What does that do in terms of engagement and turnout? | :47:55. | :47:59. | |
There is always a risk that when you get a lot of election in the | :48:00. | :48:04. | |
country, be polite to vote in Britain. It is a mature democracy. | :48:05. | :48:09. | |
They do not like to vote too often. We have had a sequence in Scotland, | :48:10. | :48:13. | |
Northern Ireland and England and Wales. In the big city regions, with | :48:14. | :48:21. | |
the Metro mayors, in most of those places, there are no other election | :48:22. | :48:26. | |
is going on. As it is a new post covering a big geography around the | :48:27. | :48:29. | |
city centre, there is some concern as to whether the turnout will be | :48:30. | :48:34. | |
anything like as big as we have seen in the London mayoral election. Last | :48:35. | :48:40. | |
time the turnout was 45%. The fear is the turnout will be lower as when | :48:41. | :48:45. | |
the police and crime commission elections took place. General | :48:46. | :48:54. | |
elections 65-70%. 45% for local elections is generally considered | :48:55. | :48:59. | |
pretty good. In your average, metropolitan district, London or shy | :49:00. | :49:04. | |
elections, you would be expecting to get results having between -- | :49:05. | :49:10. | |
averaging between 35 and 40%. We will see less than that in the new | :49:11. | :49:16. | |
mayoral elections. These elections do matter in themselves. We're all | :49:17. | :49:19. | |
looking at them and thinking about how much they will indicate on what | :49:20. | :49:24. | |
we can expect in a general election not that long after. What would you | :49:25. | :49:29. | |
say on that front? They are local elections. Everyone who goes out to | :49:30. | :49:33. | |
vote is voting on the quality of services. Standing back from it, | :49:34. | :49:39. | |
these elections are five weeks before a general election and they | :49:40. | :49:43. | |
are bound to be viewed as a way of trying to understand the way real | :49:44. | :49:49. | |
votes are being cast. With local elections, they are real votes. With | :49:50. | :49:54. | |
that in mind, when we distil the results nationally, people will be | :49:55. | :49:58. | |
saying, are the Conservatives doing quite as well in these real results | :49:59. | :50:03. | |
as they are in the polls quest to our Labour doing as badly? So on. As | :50:04. | :50:08. | |
we heard in the packages earlier on, there are real elections where we | :50:09. | :50:13. | |
can see whether the Conservatives can win control of Lancashire, | :50:14. | :50:17. | |
Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire. Terrible results for Labour should | :50:18. | :50:20. | |
that happen and good for the Conservatives. Will the Liberal | :50:21. | :50:27. | |
Democrats the resurgent in the West of England? It is a big test of | :50:28. | :50:32. | |
opinion locally and nationally. Thank you very much. | :50:33. | :50:35. | |
And you can find out more about the local and mayoral | :50:36. | :50:38. | |
elections in your area (GFX) On the BBC News website - | :50:39. | :50:40. | |
And you can watch MP for a day, who cares about politics? Victoria | :50:41. | :50:53. | |
Derbyshire documentary on the BBC I player. | :50:54. | :50:56. | |
Britain's world heavyweight champion Anthony Joshua is preparing | :50:57. | :50:58. | |
for the biggest fight of his career tomorrow night when he steps | :50:59. | :51:01. | |
into the ring to face Ukranian Wladimir Klitschko. | :51:02. | :51:03. | |
90,000 people are expected to fill Wembley to watch the bout, | :51:04. | :51:05. | |
which will see the winner become the "unified" heavyweight | :51:06. | :51:08. | |
Anthony Joshua is looking to maintain his perfect unbeaten | :51:09. | :51:11. | |
Wladimir Klitschko is aiming to reclaim | :51:12. | :51:13. | |
the International Boxing Federation and World Boxing Association titles | :51:14. | :51:16. | |
Let's take a look at this clip of Joshua in action. | :51:17. | :51:26. | |
This is from a BBC Three documentary looking ahead to this | :51:27. | :51:29. | |
I like my rest but I need to start earlier so | :51:30. | :51:36. | |
Every morning when you wake up you have to | :51:37. | :51:43. | |
No one puts a gun to my head and says, you have to be a boxer. | :51:44. | :51:57. | |
When I was like 17, 18, it was about being cool, | :51:58. | :52:00. | |
Everything that I've done over the last three years, it's built me | :52:01. | :52:13. | |
I found out what I need to do, what works, what don't work. | :52:14. | :52:17. | |
Joining us now is Rob Madden, Anthony Joshua's physiotherapist, | :52:18. | :52:27. | |
Dillian Whyte, who shared a battle with Anthony Joshua and has also | :52:28. | :52:30. | |
and Olympic bronze medalist Anthony Ogogo. | :52:31. | :52:35. | |
Thank you all for joining us. Rob, he said the last 13 weeks of | :52:36. | :52:43. | |
preparation are tougher than any time. What has he been doing to | :52:44. | :52:49. | |
prepare? Building on previous training camps. Preparing very hard. | :52:50. | :52:55. | |
He is running into a lot of hard sparring, pad work. Putting his body | :52:56. | :53:00. | |
through a gruelling schedule. It is a serious fight. It had to be done. | :53:01. | :53:07. | |
How is he? He is happy physically and in a great place. The mind | :53:08. | :53:14. | |
games, we heard Wladimir Klitschko playing the tape predicting the | :53:15. | :53:23. | |
outcome. How much is that a factor, keeping focused mentally? He is | :53:24. | :53:30. | |
relaxed. I cannot see the USB stick having much effect on him. He has | :53:31. | :53:38. | |
eight tougher skin than that. Anthony, you have known him for ten | :53:39. | :53:44. | |
years. He is such an interesting character. He still lives at home | :53:45. | :53:48. | |
with his mum. He said had he not gone into boxing, he would be in | :53:49. | :53:53. | |
jail. He had difficult times earlier in his life. Tell me more about him. | :53:54. | :53:59. | |
I have trained alongside him for the last seven, eight years. The use of | :54:00. | :54:03. | |
the decayed person. He trained very hard. He is very confident. -- he is | :54:04. | :54:14. | |
a dedicated person. He backed himself. He trained hard as his | :54:15. | :54:18. | |
confidence comes with how he trains. I trained with him for a long time. | :54:19. | :54:25. | |
We have raced together, hit the bag together. He trained very hard. He | :54:26. | :54:31. | |
deserves his success. A really good fighter and a massive challenge for | :54:32. | :54:35. | |
him. Clitch coe has been a tremendous champion for the last few | :54:36. | :54:49. | |
years. -- Wladimir Klitschko. I have fought Anthony twice and Wladimir | :54:50. | :54:52. | |
Klitschko a few times. It is one of those fights which is tricky at the | :54:53. | :55:01. | |
moment. It depends how much Wladimir Klitschko attacks and how much | :55:02. | :55:05. | |
Anthony Joshua is challenge. It is difficult to pick a winner. We will | :55:06. | :55:18. | |
see how heavy Joshua comes in and how heavy that it clitch coe is. | :55:19. | :55:24. | |
Wladimir Klitschko has been to Mendis champion. -- a tremendous | :55:25. | :55:35. | |
champion. Joshua is young, hungry and fast. He is a fast fighter. A | :55:36. | :55:44. | |
lot of guys that size can punch hard. His speed is to Mendis factor. | :55:45. | :55:52. | |
Wladimir Klitschko had that speed back in the day. -- a tremendous | :55:53. | :55:58. | |
factor. It is how much Anthony Joshua can take him out of his | :55:59. | :56:03. | |
stride and let his bath and go. If he does that, I think he will win. | :56:04. | :56:12. | |
-- let his bath and go. It takes it out of you. I think Joshua is | :56:13. | :56:19. | |
younger, fresher, faster. That will be the difference in winning the | :56:20. | :56:23. | |
fight. In terms of preparation when he says he does not worry about | :56:24. | :56:28. | |
getting injured in the ring because he tests everything before he goes | :56:29. | :56:33. | |
in. Talk through what it is like being there when he is training and | :56:34. | :56:38. | |
how he is approaching it. It is about teamwork around him and | :56:39. | :56:42. | |
balancing his training loads and his recovery. He is training hard and | :56:43. | :56:50. | |
put in a lot of stress on his body for the utilising the strength and | :56:51. | :56:52. | |
conditioning and physiotherapy. This week is about being quiet on that | :56:53. | :56:57. | |
front. Addressing the tight spots. His muscles are feeling really fresh | :56:58. | :57:00. | |
for tomorrow night. I am really happy with where he is at. Everyone | :57:01. | :57:06. | |
is. I hope Wladimir Klitschko is in the same position. Both are coming | :57:07. | :57:10. | |
in strong and healthy and it will be a good fight. People see the | :57:11. | :57:16. | |
physicality of boxing. It is a mental sport as well, isn't it? | :57:17. | :57:24. | |
People watch boxing and see two, big, muscular guys throwing punches | :57:25. | :57:31. | |
and they think that is it. It is so technical. Every game plan has been | :57:32. | :57:39. | |
sorted out. It is not about doing press ups, bicep curling was he has | :57:40. | :57:45. | |
spent 13 weeks going over game plans. Doing one thing and then the | :57:46. | :57:49. | |
next week doing another thing. It is a hard business. Both guys can punch | :57:50. | :57:56. | |
very hard. If you make one mistake, you are knocked out. You have lost | :57:57. | :58:01. | |
the credibility you have built up. Thank you. We are looking forward to | :58:02. | :58:06. | |
the fight tomorrow. Thank you very much for joining us. | :58:07. | :58:09. | |
If you're watching on BBC Two, in a moment coverage of the snooker. | :58:10. | :58:12. | |
To continue watching our programme turn over to the BBC | :58:13. | :58:15. | |
News Channel, where coming up in the next half hour. | :58:16. | :58:18. | |
A successful journalist found out her husband | :58:19. | :58:20. | |
Poorna Bell is now opening up about what happened to her husband | :58:21. | :58:31. | |
Rob, and is sharing her story with this programme just after 10. | :58:32. | :58:43. | |
Largely fine, dry day out there and this was the scene taken by our | :58:44. | :58:53. | |
weather Watchers in Broadstairs. As we head through the bank holiday | :58:54. | :58:57. | |
weekend, the quiet theme continues at least for a while. A bit warmer | :58:58. | :59:02. | |
than they have been, turning quite breezy and at times, there's a | :59:03. | :59:05. | |
chance of rain, particularly on Sunday. One or two showers across | :59:06. | :59:11. | |
Scotland, northern England, Wales and southern England but either side | :59:12. | :59:15. | |
of that line of cloud, dry and brighter stop decent sunshine. | :59:16. | :59:19. | |
Lighter winds and recent days and temperatures at around 15 degrees. | :59:20. | :59:24. | |
Saturday, the driest day of the weekend. Quite a bit of sunshine. | :59:25. | :59:29. | |
The chance of the rogue shower. Temperatures around 16. Windy in the | :59:30. | :59:37. | |
west. Sunday, some rain in the south-west of England. Wales as | :59:38. | :59:42. | |
well, going north-east but some uncertainty on Sunday. Looks like | :59:43. | :59:45. | |
Northern and north-eastern part of the country should stay dry and | :59:46. | :59:50. | |
breezy. Most of the rain clears through bank holiday Monday. A | :59:51. | :59:53. | |
return to some sunshine, 12 showers but it should feel pleasant with | :59:54. | :59:57. | |
lighter winds and temperatures up to 16 degrees. | :59:58. | :00:03. | |
It's Friday, ten o'clock and I am Joanna Gosling, thanks for your | :00:04. | :00:13. | |
company. If a woman has been shot during an anti-terror operation on a | :00:14. | :00:16. | |
residential street in north-west London. Neil Basu said six people | :00:17. | :00:22. | |
have now been arrested. I wanted to reassure the public | :00:23. | :00:28. | |
that this increased level of terrorist activity | :00:29. | :00:30. | |
is being matched by our actions, the police and security | :00:31. | :00:32. | |
services across the country. We are making arrests | :00:33. | :00:34. | |
on a near daily basis and you saw some | :00:35. | :00:36. | |
of that, yesterday. We will have the latest in Willesden | :00:37. | :00:38. | |
Junction shortly. A successful journalist only | :00:39. | :00:44. | |
found out after three years that her husband | :00:45. | :00:46. | |
was a heroin addict. He sought help but later | :00:47. | :00:49. | |
relapsed and killed himself. Poorna Bell is here to share her | :00:50. | :00:51. | |
story with this programme. The idea that the person | :00:52. | :00:56. | |
I loved most in the world, that I trusted most | :00:57. | :00:59. | |
in the world would be using | :01:00. | :01:00. | |
something like that not even periodically, | :01:01. | :01:02. | |
but would be an addict, it was | :01:03. | :01:03. | |
absolutely unfathomable. I would never have made that | :01:04. | :01:05. | |
connection if he hadn't Imagine buying a new home, | :01:06. | :01:07. | |
but finding that the cost to rent the ground the property | :01:08. | :01:16. | |
is on is doubling every few years. That's what happened to some | :01:17. | :01:19. | |
leasehold homeowners. But now one developer, | :01:20. | :01:21. | |
Taylor Wimpey, has set aside a fund of ?130 million to help | :01:22. | :01:23. | |
reduce these costs after It just seems immoral | :01:24. | :01:25. | |
and completely unethical. And you read the contract | :01:26. | :01:32. | |
as much as... I think I probably read | :01:33. | :01:34. | |
the contract about 50 times. And it didn't matter | :01:35. | :01:36. | |
how many times I read the one paragraph in which this | :01:37. | :01:40. | |
clause is contained, I still can't A teenage boy, whose brother | :01:41. | :01:42. | |
was killed in a Taliban massacre at his school in Peshawar, | :01:43. | :01:50. | |
is now in Birmingham, teaching children about | :01:51. | :01:52. | |
the dangers of extremism. Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom | :01:53. | :01:54. | |
with a summary of todays news. The UK's counter-terrorism unit | :01:55. | :02:12. | |
says it's making arrests The unit's policing coordinator made | :02:13. | :02:16. | |
the comments this morning - saying six people have now been | :02:17. | :02:20. | |
detained in connection with an anti-terror operation | :02:21. | :02:23. | |
in Willesden, north-west London, during which a woman was shot | :02:24. | :02:25. | |
and injured by police. It happened hours after a man | :02:26. | :02:27. | |
was arrested for allegedly attempting a terror attack | :02:28. | :02:29. | |
near the Houses of Parliament. Officers say the two | :02:30. | :02:32. | |
incidents aren't connected. Given the horrors in London of a few | :02:33. | :02:40. | |
short weeks ago, and may I say our thoughts are still with the victims | :02:41. | :02:44. | |
and survivors of that horrific day, I wanted to reassure the public | :02:45. | :02:47. | |
that this increased level of terrorist activity | :02:48. | :02:49. | |
is being matched by our actions, the police and security | :02:50. | :02:51. | |
services across the country. We are making arrests | :02:52. | :02:56. | |
on a near daily basis I also wanted to pay | :02:57. | :02:58. | |
tribute to the bravery and detective colleagues, | :02:59. | :03:03. | |
doing that work to keep us all safe. Our correspondent, Andy Moore | :03:04. | :03:12. | |
is at Willesden Green. Good morning, is any more detail a | :03:13. | :03:23. | |
margin about what went on? -- detail emerging. We had that update from | :03:24. | :03:29. | |
Scotland Yard. They called it an extraordinary day yesterday, two | :03:30. | :03:32. | |
separate ongoing terror investigations. This house behind me | :03:33. | :03:37. | |
was raided at about 7pm last night. If we just push into the house, it's | :03:38. | :03:42. | |
the one with the satellite dish. You may be able to see in the top | :03:43. | :03:46. | |
right-hand window on the top floor, there is a broken window. We know | :03:47. | :03:51. | |
from police that a CS gas was used here. Police said they had to make | :03:52. | :03:56. | |
an armed entry, which was necessary because of intelligence. We don't | :03:57. | :03:59. | |
know precisely what that intelligence was that this house had | :04:00. | :04:03. | |
been under surveillance for some time. -- but this house. It would | :04:04. | :04:08. | |
have six people had been arrested in connection with this incident. A | :04:09. | :04:13. | |
16-year-old boy was arrested here. A man and a woman both aged 20 and a | :04:14. | :04:16. | |
separate arrest last night of a 43-year-old woman in Kent. Four | :04:17. | :04:23. | |
rests with Europe last night and we heard this morning of an additional | :04:24. | :04:27. | |
two arrests made at this property when two people returned to this | :04:28. | :04:34. | |
address. A man and a woman aged 28. Obviously, the police investigation | :04:35. | :04:37. | |
carrying on here. We understand that there are investigations at linked | :04:38. | :04:42. | |
addresses. We don't know where they are. At other locations in London. | :04:43. | :04:48. | |
The IBC say, the independent watchdog, will be investigating this | :04:49. | :04:55. | |
case -- IPC. When firearms are charged, they investigate. A woman | :04:56. | :04:58. | |
in her 20s is in a serious condition in hospital, under watch by officers | :04:59. | :05:02. | |
but she has not been arrested because of her condition. Andy, | :05:03. | :05:03. | |
thank you. A fund set up to improve patient | :05:04. | :05:06. | |
access to cancer drugs in England has been condemned by researchers | :05:07. | :05:09. | |
as a "huge waste of money". The Cancer Drugs Fund ran from 2010 | :05:10. | :05:11. | |
until last year and cost But a new study by King's College | :05:12. | :05:14. | |
London says most of the drugs failed to show clinical benefit, | :05:15. | :05:21. | |
and many patients may have suffered A breast cancer charity has | :05:22. | :05:23. | |
responded, saying the fund A former Royal Marine who shot dead | :05:24. | :05:26. | |
an injured Taliban fighter in Afghanistan has been | :05:27. | :05:35. | |
released from prison. Sergeant Alexander Blackman was | :05:36. | :05:36. | |
originally found guilty of murder. Last month that conviction | :05:37. | :05:38. | |
was quashed and replaced with manslaughter on the grounds | :05:39. | :05:40. | |
of diminished responsibility. Official figures show the economy | :05:41. | :05:51. | |
grew by 0.3% in the first Economists had been | :05:52. | :05:54. | |
expecting a slowdown, but the results are slightly | :05:55. | :05:56. | |
worse than predicted. The Office for National Statistics | :05:57. | :05:58. | |
said rising prices and a fall That's a summary of | :05:59. | :06:01. | |
the latest BBC News. We will keep talking about that huge | :06:02. | :06:11. | |
fight. All eyes will be on Wembley tomorrow | :06:12. | :06:29. | |
evening for what could be another memorable fight for British fight | :06:30. | :06:33. | |
fans and Anthony Joshua takes a step up in class to defend his world | :06:34. | :06:38. | |
title against Dr Steelhammer himself Both characters are really | :06:39. | :06:41. | |
intriguing, there's no malice, Let's speak now to Boxing | :06:42. | :06:46. | |
commentator Ronald McIntosh, who will take us through the action | :06:47. | :06:50. | |
on BBC Radio 5live tomorrow night. You were at the press conference | :06:51. | :06:59. | |
yesterday, what was the mood like of the two fighters? The mood in the | :07:00. | :07:01. | |
press conference at the Sky centre was as it has been throughout the | :07:02. | :07:06. | |
entire build-up, to this contest. Epic heavyweight showdown but both | :07:07. | :07:10. | |
guys very surreal, very professional, very calm, very | :07:11. | :07:13. | |
composed, they know one another very well. Anthony Joshua was hired as a | :07:14. | :07:17. | |
sparring partner by Wladimir Klitschko added his title defence | :07:18. | :07:23. | |
back in 2014. There has almost been an element of Anthony Joshua being | :07:24. | :07:32. | |
expected to be the anointed one, the next one. I don't think they | :07:33. | :07:34. | |
anticipated they would meet Bob Wladimir Klitschko lost the title to | :07:35. | :07:36. | |
Funerary. Heavyweight showdown taking place at Wembley on Sunday. | :07:37. | :07:39. | |
Lots of questions going into this fight, mainly the age of Wladimir | :07:40. | :07:43. | |
Klitschko, how long he has been out of the ring and that perceived | :07:44. | :07:47. | |
inexperience from Anthony Joshua. How will they cope with their | :07:48. | :07:52. | |
respective challenges? That is a classic philosophical conundrum | :07:53. | :07:55. | |
which is more valuable, the energy of youth, the wisdom of experience? | :07:56. | :08:02. | |
Wladimir Klitschko is 41, he has been in boxing, taking into account | :08:03. | :08:05. | |
his glittering amateur career, when he won the Olympics civil | :08:06. | :08:10. | |
heavyweight title in 1996, through to the imperious rain, none and a | :08:11. | :08:13. | |
half year, second rain as a heavyweight champion, he has been in | :08:14. | :08:17. | |
boxing for 27 years -- nine and a half years, his second time as a | :08:18. | :08:22. | |
heavyweight champion. But it could go's boxing experience and the | :08:23. | :08:25. | |
totality of Anthony Joshua's time on earth. Hugely powerful individuals, | :08:26. | :08:31. | |
18 five, 18 winds, 18 knockouts but make no mistake, this is a huge step | :08:32. | :08:35. | |
up. He has faced anybody as remotely as good as bad make it go. We are | :08:36. | :08:46. | |
assuming that it could go is the fighter that he was in the past. If | :08:47. | :08:49. | |
we go on the evidence of his last performance against Tyson Fury, that | :08:50. | :08:52. | |
was an absolute aberration. Was it a significant decline or a one off? | :08:53. | :08:55. | |
The answers will -- the questions will be answered on Saturday night. | :08:56. | :08:56. | |
There's coverage of the fight on Radio 5live with Ron and the team | :08:57. | :08:59. | |
from 9 o'clock tomorrow evening - not to be missed! | :09:00. | :09:04. | |
Writer Poorna Bell had been married to Rob, | :09:05. | :09:05. | |
a successful journalist for three years before he admitted | :09:06. | :09:08. | |
Whilst Rob had been open about his battle with depression, | :09:09. | :09:15. | |
which was often severe, she had no idea that he was using | :09:16. | :09:18. | |
heroin to self-medicate his mental health issues. | :09:19. | :09:22. | |
The pair tried to work through his problems together - | :09:23. | :09:24. | |
Rob joined Narcotics Anonymous and Poorna went to a support | :09:25. | :09:27. | |
But eventually Rob relapsed and on a trip to see relatives | :09:28. | :09:32. | |
in New Zealand he tragically took his own life. | :09:33. | :09:36. | |
After losing her husband, Poorna opened up about their struggles | :09:37. | :09:39. | |
with a blog and in a new book, she describes what it was like to | :09:40. | :09:42. | |
live with a something she kept a secret for many years. | :09:43. | :09:51. | |
He mastered at this by saying it was depression. But I knew there wasn't | :09:52. | :09:59. | |
something quite right, there was something he wasn't telling me that | :10:00. | :10:01. | |
I assumed he wasn't comfortable talking about how he felt. When he | :10:02. | :10:07. | |
told me it was an awful moment but at the same time, I felt I had a bit | :10:08. | :10:12. | |
of my sanity back. Because I actually knew what was going on. Had | :10:13. | :10:17. | |
you literally no idea? No idea. When you are married and you trust the | :10:18. | :10:20. | |
other person implicitly, you just expect them to tell you the truth, | :10:21. | :10:25. | |
you don't think for one minute they might not be telling you the truth. | :10:26. | :10:28. | |
The idea of something like heroin, which is an extreme drug in modern | :10:29. | :10:36. | |
society, so taboo, the idea that the person I loved most in the world, | :10:37. | :10:39. | |
that I trusted most in the world would be using something like that | :10:40. | :10:45. | |
not even periodically, but be an addict, it was absolutely | :10:46. | :10:46. | |
unfathomable. I would never have made that connection if he hadn't | :10:47. | :10:51. | |
have told me. How open was he with you at that point? Once he had told | :10:52. | :10:56. | |
me, everything came out. All of these stories, everything that I | :10:57. | :11:01. | |
thought was one type of a reality, but actually, he then told me the | :11:02. | :11:04. | |
truth about what was going on. He was very open with his feelings and | :11:05. | :11:10. | |
his thoughts immediately afterwards. With addiction it's not as simple as | :11:11. | :11:13. | |
among confessing and they're going to recovery. And then they are keen | :11:14. | :11:18. | |
for the rest of their lives. There were periods of relapse and | :11:19. | :11:24. | |
recovery. Every time he led up to a relapse it would be punctuated by | :11:25. | :11:27. | |
the same kind of behaviour. He wouldn't talk about how he was | :11:28. | :11:30. | |
feeling, be closed off and eventually he was confessing Tammy | :11:31. | :11:35. | |
what was going on. Why did he tell you? I asked him that question. -- | :11:36. | :11:39. | |
he was confessing and then tell me. He said he was caught at the right | :11:40. | :11:44. | |
moment. In some measures that is quite worrying because what if I | :11:45. | :11:47. | |
hadn't? What if he hadn't had told me at that point in time? Because we | :11:48. | :11:52. | |
kick-started his recovery almost immediately after that, two days | :11:53. | :11:57. | |
after that. He was just fed up with lying and with having to carry all | :11:58. | :12:01. | |
of that on his own, which is what addiction is. Especially when you | :12:02. | :12:04. | |
can't tell your loved ones about it. Had he been on heroin the whole time | :12:05. | :12:08. | |
you had known him? In other words, you wouldn't have noticed any | :12:09. | :12:13. | |
particular change? No. About 18 months of our relationship, he | :12:14. | :12:18. | |
wasn't. For the first 18 months. I'd definitely, looking back on it | :12:19. | :12:21. | |
retrospectively, I know when his behaviour started changing. But it | :12:22. | :12:25. | |
coincided when I moved into living with him. I just thought maybe this | :12:26. | :12:29. | |
is what it was like when I'm not around. I didn't put two and two | :12:30. | :12:37. | |
together. He was an addict for about three years from that point onwards. | :12:38. | :12:40. | |
I would probably venture maybe three, three and a half, actually. | :12:41. | :12:46. | |
In the book, you talk about tell-tale signs that when you looked | :12:47. | :12:51. | |
back with knowledge, you saw in a different way things like tinfoil, | :12:52. | :12:57. | |
using opt in for quite quickly in the house, which at the time you | :12:58. | :13:01. | |
hadn't thought much about -- using it up quite quickly in the house. In | :13:02. | :13:06. | |
the book, it's quite a comical mind that I throw out there but I was, | :13:07. | :13:11. | |
like, my God, there was no tinfoil for us to grilled chicken on! It's | :13:12. | :13:16. | |
something as mundane as that, sandwiched with something so extreme | :13:17. | :13:18. | |
as the fact that he had been using it to smoke heroin in the toilet. I | :13:19. | :13:24. | |
has to re-evaluate every single thing that I thought I knew. Things | :13:25. | :13:28. | |
like going to the shops Leyton Aspal cigarette -- I has to re-evaluate. | :13:29. | :13:33. | |
Why he may have been late to meet me for something -- shops late at night | :13:34. | :13:36. | |
to buy cigarettes. That was something extremely hard to | :13:37. | :13:41. | |
reconcile. How was he funding it? He wasn't. He got himself into | :13:42. | :13:45. | |
thousands of pounds of debt. He jointly owned a house and use the | :13:46. | :13:50. | |
equity for that to pay of some of his debt. Unfortunately, he got back | :13:51. | :13:56. | |
into debt again. On a side note, it leads you to wonder about people, | :13:57. | :13:59. | |
creditors, having known someone had a problem with debt, are very happy | :14:00. | :14:03. | |
to lend to them again, unfortunately. In terms of actually | :14:04. | :14:08. | |
getting the heroine, coming into contact with the people that you had | :14:09. | :14:12. | |
no idea that your husband was in any sort of contact with? Even though he | :14:13. | :14:18. | |
would tell these people please don't call me, I am trying to recover, | :14:19. | :14:22. | |
every time they would get a new phone they were text him and say, by | :14:23. | :14:27. | |
the way, this is the new number, if you need anything, let me know. He | :14:28. | :14:31. | |
would give me the phone and I would delete the text for him. You | :14:32. | :14:38. | |
discovered all of this and went into firefighting mode? To look after | :14:39. | :14:42. | |
your husband, to try to sort it out. But you didn't tell anybody else, | :14:43. | :14:46. | |
why did you decide to try to manage it on your own. It must have been a | :14:47. | :14:52. | |
huge burden on you? It was an immense burden. But when you go | :14:53. | :14:56. | |
through something fairly traumatic, you have to prioritise what you are | :14:57. | :15:03. | |
going to deal with. But you are not capable of dealing with in your | :15:04. | :15:07. | |
current sphere at the time. When he told me, our world dwindled to a | :15:08. | :15:10. | |
very small point and a small focus in terms of the absolute demerit | :15:11. | :15:16. | |
urgent -- most urgent thing to do was get him in recovery, engaging | :15:17. | :15:20. | |
with services. Making sure I was at home oh on hand to help him with | :15:21. | :15:26. | |
whatever he needed. Beyond that. There was one person I told about | :15:27. | :15:32. | |
it. In my own mind, that point, I knew so very little about addiction. | :15:33. | :15:39. | |
I was not just battling with what Rob was going through, trying to | :15:40. | :15:46. | |
keep him safe and healthy, but I was also struggling with what I thought | :15:47. | :15:52. | |
addiction was, what I had been brought up to believe it was and my | :15:53. | :15:57. | |
own judgments about it. The lying, the behaviours and reconciling some | :15:58. | :16:02. | |
of that. I thought, if I am struggling with it, how will my | :16:03. | :16:07. | |
loved ones feel about it? They know even less. Rob is my husband, my | :16:08. | :16:13. | |
loved one. They do love him as well. It is a different kind of | :16:14. | :16:19. | |
relationship. I was trying to sort through the mass of my own mindful | :16:20. | :16:26. | |
that because I needed Rob to have a stable environment, I just thought | :16:27. | :16:31. | |
the risk was 2- stop if I told them what was going on and the reaction | :16:32. | :16:35. | |
was anything other than, we love you, we are really sorry, I could | :16:36. | :16:41. | |
not deal with it, I could not handle it. I was not ashamed of Rob but I | :16:42. | :16:47. | |
was ashamed of the situation we found ourselves in and the debt we | :16:48. | :16:51. | |
were in and that things had got to this point. I did not know this was | :16:52. | :16:56. | |
happening to someone I was living with. All of that combined meant I | :16:57. | :17:02. | |
could not really speak about it. In society we do not have a very | :17:03. | :17:08. | |
benign, understanding, or intelligent view of what addiction | :17:09. | :17:13. | |
is in society. How could anyone else appreciate it when I did not myself? | :17:14. | :17:21. | |
Prior to being in that situation what was he like? From the beginning | :17:22. | :17:30. | |
and through that time as well? As you would have gathered, he was | :17:31. | :17:35. | |
incredibly complicated. You had the struggles he was going through. He | :17:36. | :17:39. | |
struggled with depression and addiction. He was open about the | :17:40. | :17:47. | |
depression? He was. He was this incredible man, the most intelligent | :17:48. | :17:52. | |
person I had met. He worked as a science journalist but he was a | :17:53. | :18:00. | |
voracious reader. You would always find him reading, whether it was | :18:01. | :18:06. | |
news or books. He had an insane knowledge about nature. It is a | :18:07. | :18:13. | |
thing. You could be walking through a small park, going to a reservoir | :18:14. | :18:17. | |
or woodland, and he would just know what species that tree was or what | :18:18. | :18:22. | |
species that plant was. He would spot birds. He really opened up your | :18:23. | :18:31. | |
knowledge of the environment you were in. Now we look at things and | :18:32. | :18:36. | |
think, I really wish that Rob were around to tell us that. He was | :18:37. | :18:41. | |
incredibly generous and kind. If there were someone stuck in a | :18:42. | :18:45. | |
country who did not know anyone he would find a friend of a friend of a | :18:46. | :18:50. | |
friend who would knows and in that place and connect to say you did not | :18:51. | :18:54. | |
have to have dinner alone. You might want to have a Coffey with them. He | :18:55. | :19:01. | |
had a very big heart. Someone who had so much to give. It must have | :19:02. | :19:06. | |
been so frustrating for you, being up close and seeing the demons that | :19:07. | :19:14. | |
word tormenting him. His capacity to help others was infinite. His | :19:15. | :19:18. | |
capacity to help himself, narrow, aeons narrow. -- aeons narrow. When | :19:19. | :19:28. | |
you try to help him through quickly got to a point where you believed he | :19:29. | :19:33. | |
was sober. He said he was sober and you discovered he was not. What | :19:34. | :19:39. | |
happened at that point? I thought addiction meant when you went into | :19:40. | :19:44. | |
recovery did not touch the drug again, especially feels Boustead, I | :19:45. | :19:47. | |
do not think I can do with it if you continue to use drugs. -- if your | :19:48. | :19:55. | |
spouse said. That is not how addiction works it is not as clean | :19:56. | :20:01. | |
cut as that. If someone relapses, it means the journey is a lot more | :20:02. | :20:07. | |
complicated. When he relapsed, he relapsed three times before he | :20:08. | :20:15. | |
passed away. Each relapse was accompanied by about three weeks of, | :20:16. | :20:20. | |
I don't feel well. Honestly, I am fine. I have not relapsed. This | :20:21. | :20:27. | |
insistence that everything was fine with him. Eventually the breaking | :20:28. | :20:32. | |
point that I would keep asking the questions over and again. He would | :20:33. | :20:37. | |
say, you are right. It was always punctuated with me feeling like I | :20:38. | :20:43. | |
did not know what to believe. You cannot tell them what to do. You | :20:44. | :20:47. | |
cannot force the truth out of them if they are not willing to | :20:48. | :20:53. | |
relinquish it. Not even about the relapse, but about the behaviour | :20:54. | :21:02. | |
around the relapse. It is about not feeling confident enough to come | :21:03. | :21:06. | |
forward with the truth. You got to the point where you decided there | :21:07. | :21:14. | |
should be a three-month separation? Yes. If he gets through six months | :21:15. | :21:19. | |
of recovery, we would try for children. I think he made it as far | :21:20. | :21:24. | |
as about five and a half months. The last few weeks of that he relapsed. | :21:25. | :21:29. | |
There were different circumstances and why that was the case. He was | :21:30. | :21:35. | |
insisting, I am still sober and ready to start trying for a family. | :21:36. | :21:40. | |
When I've figured out he had relapsed, and he confessed, I | :21:41. | :21:46. | |
thought, I cannot really do this. If you were a drug addict continually | :21:47. | :21:49. | |
going through relapse that is thing I could deal with. I could not deal | :21:50. | :21:53. | |
with the lying. The children added an extra dimensional to it. I just | :21:54. | :21:58. | |
thought, I don't know if we can actually have children. That was a | :21:59. | :22:03. | |
very painful realisation for him as well. Being someone who is extremely | :22:04. | :22:07. | |
compassionate and did want to do the right thing, I think he realised he | :22:08. | :22:15. | |
could not be the kind of father he wanted to be because he would... | :22:16. | :22:18. | |
There would always be the risk he would be subjecting them to his | :22:19. | :22:22. | |
addiction or his depression. With the children, I've just thought, if | :22:23. | :22:26. | |
I continue going down this line with you and you cannot do recovery for | :22:27. | :22:30. | |
yourself because you are scared to lose me, I am going to stop | :22:31. | :22:35. | |
respecting myself in this situation and stop respecting you. I loved him | :22:36. | :22:39. | |
so much I did not want to get to the point where I did not want the best | :22:40. | :22:47. | |
for him or I did not love him. The idea was he was going to go to New | :22:48. | :22:51. | |
Zealand for the period of our separation. At the end of that | :22:52. | :22:55. | |
period we would work out where he was in terms of that recovery and | :22:56. | :22:59. | |
figure out whether or not we could reconcile things. And while he was | :23:00. | :23:05. | |
there you had a particular day where there was a terrible worry. You had | :23:06. | :23:12. | |
had texts from him. We were text doing. We were in regular contact | :23:13. | :23:20. | |
while he was in New Zealand. We did have an exchange. I could not | :23:21. | :23:23. | |
understand the language of what he was saying. It was similar to the | :23:24. | :23:29. | |
language he had used in the past. We should probably talk for one last | :23:30. | :23:34. | |
time. I do not know if I can do this any more. It took on a tone and | :23:35. | :23:39. | |
events unfolded. We could not get hold of him and we could not hear | :23:40. | :23:46. | |
from him. I thought, I bet he will show up and he did not. You talk | :23:47. | :23:55. | |
about the fact he felt a level of responsibility towards him as your | :23:56. | :23:58. | |
husband but the man he loved. You did everything he possibly could to | :23:59. | :24:03. | |
get him through. Sadly he took his own life when he was in New Zealand. | :24:04. | :24:09. | |
How did you learn what had happened? His mother called me. The police | :24:10. | :24:13. | |
found me and his mother called me. That is how I found out. Yes. And | :24:14. | :24:23. | |
then I think I booked a flight. Those 24 hours were a complete blur | :24:24. | :24:27. | |
and I booked a flight and I was pretty much in New Zealand in the | :24:28. | :24:34. | |
space of two days, I think. He had written an e-mail in which he had | :24:35. | :24:38. | |
described how painful it was for him to live because of his depression. | :24:39. | :24:42. | |
He said regardless of whether things are going well or badly, and | :24:43. | :24:45. | |
regardless of my absolutely and amazing wife, he clearly found life | :24:46. | :24:53. | |
very difficult. How did you feel when you knew he had written that | :24:54. | :24:57. | |
down, paying tribute to you but bitter- sweet? It sounds really odd | :24:58. | :25:04. | |
about that note. That note through difficult. It was a note to his | :25:05. | :25:08. | |
doctor and was just explaining very clearly what was in his mind and how | :25:09. | :25:15. | |
hard he had found it. Only about 30% of people leave a suicide note. Even | :25:16. | :25:19. | |
then, people that do, that note could be written in a very | :25:20. | :25:25. | |
particular frame of mind. I think a lot of importance is attributed to | :25:26. | :25:30. | |
it. Actually, a lot of people talk to themselves based on what was left | :25:31. | :25:35. | |
behind on someone post back suicide note. It is not necessarily them. It | :25:36. | :25:40. | |
was written by them when they were in a very particular frame of mind. | :25:41. | :25:45. | |
I don't think people like you and me can necessarily even begin to | :25:46. | :25:49. | |
understand what it must feel to feel like that. When I read his note, it | :25:50. | :25:56. | |
is a weird sense of absolution. I think with suicide, I don't think I | :25:57. | :26:01. | |
know anyone who does not feel like this. Whether you are a spouse or a | :26:02. | :26:06. | |
parent, if there is something you feel you should have done, anything | :26:07. | :26:11. | |
is better than what the outcome ended up being. That puts so much | :26:12. | :26:18. | |
pressure on any individual, even if you are as close to him as I was, or | :26:19. | :26:24. | |
his parents were. You are not responsible for someone else's live. | :26:25. | :26:28. | |
Any more than someone else is responsible for yours. That note an | :26:29. | :26:32. | |
insight into reading him saying something like, I hope that my | :26:33. | :26:39. | |
friends and family would understand that even a day or two feeling like | :26:40. | :26:44. | |
this is utterly unbearable, that they would be able to understand. I | :26:45. | :26:49. | |
think that gives such a startlingly honest insight into how he was | :26:50. | :26:55. | |
feeling. We have this idea that suicide is selfish. It means someone | :26:56. | :27:00. | |
does not care about you. That is not true. He cared about all of us. He | :27:01. | :27:06. | |
loved all of us. Other people are out there, who have taken their own | :27:07. | :27:14. | |
lives. They have not done it to spite someone. They have people they | :27:15. | :27:17. | |
love and have left behind. It is not about that. Being able to understand | :27:18. | :27:21. | |
that liberates you from the idea that you are responsible for them. | :27:22. | :27:26. | |
Now, if you're feeling emotionally distressed and would like details | :27:27. | :27:29. | |
of organisations which offer advice and support, go online | :27:30. | :27:31. | |
to bbc.co.uk/actionline or you can call for free, | :27:32. | :27:33. | |
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Police say they've foiled an active terrorist plot after carrying out | :27:52. | :27:57. | |
A female suspect was shot during the operation | :27:58. | :28:01. | |
and is in a serious but stable condition in hospital. | :28:02. | :28:03. | |
The Independent Police Complaints Commission is investigating. | :28:04. | :28:07. | |
It happened hours after a man was arrested for allegedly | :28:08. | :28:09. | |
attempting a terror attack near the Houses of Parliament. | :28:10. | :28:14. | |
A study has concluded that a special cancer fund set up to give patients | :28:15. | :28:17. | |
in England access to expensive drugs was a waste of money. | :28:18. | :28:20. | |
The Cancer Drugs Fund ran from 2010 until last year and cost | :28:21. | :28:27. | |
The study, by King's College London, says most of the drugs failed | :28:28. | :28:31. | |
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whose murder conviction for killing a Taliban fighter | :28:44. | :28:45. | |
in Afghanistan was quashed - has been released from prison. | :28:46. | :28:48. | |
Sergeant Blackman - known as "Marine A" - | :28:49. | :28:50. | |
during the case - had his conviction reduced to manslaughter | :28:51. | :28:52. | |
He has served more than three years of a seven-year sentence. | :28:53. | :28:56. | |
The general election will be a tipping point for education, | :28:57. | :28:59. | |
according to headteachers who warn the stability | :29:00. | :29:01. | |
A survey by the National Assocation of Headteachers found that nearly | :29:02. | :29:06. | |
three-quarters of heads say their budget will be | :29:07. | :29:09. | |
It comes as economists predict it would cost ?2 billion to freeze | :29:10. | :29:15. | |
school funding in real terms over the next five years. | :29:16. | :29:17. | |
The Department for Education says school funding is at record levels. | :29:18. | :29:20. | |
That's a summary of the latest news, join me for BBC | :29:21. | :29:22. | |
Now for the sport. It was all about the race for the fourth and final | :29:23. | :29:37. | |
Champions League spot last night in the Manchester derby. The match did | :29:38. | :29:42. | |
not live up to expectation. A moment of madness was the talking point | :29:43. | :29:47. | |
when Marouane Fellaini were sent off for head-butting Sergio Aguero. He | :29:48. | :29:51. | |
had already been booked for another foul on the Argentine forward. That | :29:52. | :29:57. | |
means city and United stay fourth and fifth in the table. Third spot | :29:58. | :30:04. | |
is still possible for Arsenal. They have a big North London derby | :30:05. | :30:08. | |
against second-place spurs on Sunday. Anthony Joshua says he will | :30:09. | :30:14. | |
not be affected by Wladimir Klitschko's mind games. He says he | :30:15. | :30:20. | |
has made a video prediction but will not reveal what is on it. Joshua | :30:21. | :30:24. | |
says he has heard it all before. The first day of the toured of | :30:25. | :30:34. | |
Yorkshire. The men's defending champion will be there. More at 11 | :30:35. | :30:37. | |
o'clock. You may remember earlier this year | :30:38. | :30:39. | |
we told you about a new trend for developers to sell new homes | :30:40. | :30:42. | |
as leasehold, rather than freehold, and then sell off the freehold, | :30:43. | :30:45. | |
that's the ground the property is on, to investment | :30:46. | :30:48. | |
companies meaning higher One of these charges is ground rent | :30:49. | :30:50. | |
and some home owners have found this They say it's an unfair cost | :30:51. | :30:56. | |
and also makes it difficult for them Now, one of the home builders | :30:57. | :31:01. | |
in our film, Taylor Wimpey, has set aside a fund of ?130 million | :31:02. | :31:05. | |
to help reduce these costs. It applies to customers who bought | :31:06. | :31:09. | |
homes between 2007 and 2011, the developer refuses to say how | :31:10. | :31:11. | |
many people are affected. Other developers also took | :31:12. | :31:15. | |
part in the practice, and the move by Taylor Wimpey | :31:16. | :31:17. | |
is being seen as the first recognition by a housebuilder | :31:18. | :31:20. | |
that the practise was wrong. Here's a reminder of our film | :31:21. | :31:22. | |
with James Longman. Luke bought his flat three | :31:23. | :31:32. | |
years ago for ?150,000. He'd fallen in love with this | :31:33. | :31:34. | |
Victorian building in Little did he know he had | :31:35. | :31:36. | |
also fallen victim to a growing trend for clauses that | :31:37. | :31:40. | |
hike up ground rent. That's the yearly fee | :31:41. | :31:48. | |
a leaseholder pays to live on a Luke thought he'd pay ?250 | :31:49. | :31:51. | |
a year, which is roughly But six months after he moved | :31:52. | :31:54. | |
in, he got a bill for A small, but important | :31:55. | :31:58. | |
clause had been written into his contract by his freeholder | :31:59. | :32:01. | |
potentially designed to be On the face of it, it | :32:02. | :32:03. | |
just seems immoral and And you read the contract | :32:04. | :32:12. | |
as much as you... Certainly after I realised and it | :32:13. | :32:15. | |
did not matter how many times I read the one paragraph in which this | :32:16. | :32:21. | |
clause is contained, I still can't "The tenant shall be required | :32:22. | :32:24. | |
to pay such annual rent as shall be two thirds less than two | :32:25. | :32:36. | |
thirds of the rentable That's the key bit. | :32:37. | :32:39. | |
No idea what that means at all. He's certainly not | :32:40. | :32:43. | |
the only person to do this but we have been | :32:44. | :32:47. | |
told about at least 20 He's even been criticised | :32:48. | :32:49. | |
in Parliament. One crook, whether it's | :32:50. | :32:52. | |
criminal or not is not Luke's solicitor had to pay | :32:53. | :32:55. | |
Martin Payne ?7,000 to remove the clause, but it | :32:56. | :33:02. | |
did not end there. Luke was left with | :33:03. | :33:04. | |
a doubling clause, something that has | :33:05. | :33:06. | |
become increasingly It states ground rent is ?250 | :33:07. | :33:07. | |
a year, backdated to 1990. Which does not sound too bad, | :33:08. | :33:19. | |
but it also says that that figure So by 2020 he'd be paying ?2,000 | :33:20. | :33:23. | |
a year, and it keeps doubling. By 2070 he'd be paying ?64,000 | :33:24. | :33:30. | |
a year and by the end of the 190 year lease there'd be over | :33:31. | :33:33. | |
?65 million every year In total, over the course | :33:34. | :33:35. | |
of the lease, ground rent would have cost more than ?1.3 billion | :33:36. | :33:49. | |
on a flat costing just ?150,000. What's your feeling | :33:50. | :33:52. | |
towards Martin Payne now? He's caused me quite | :33:53. | :33:57. | |
a lot of stress. I don't deal with him directly | :33:58. | :34:02. | |
because everything goes through my solicitor, but I'm very | :34:03. | :34:06. | |
aware that this clause was inserted into the contract when they extended | :34:07. | :34:10. | |
the lease for no other reason There'd be no reason | :34:11. | :34:13. | |
he needs to do this. It is clearly | :34:14. | :34:18. | |
constructed to deceive. What we say to all members | :34:19. | :34:21. | |
of the conveyancing association is, make sure that if you are advising | :34:22. | :34:24. | |
client on these clauses, because they can be so tricky, | :34:25. | :34:27. | |
that you run the calculation and that you are entirely sure | :34:28. | :34:31. | |
as to what that calculation is, and that you are entirely sure | :34:32. | :34:34. | |
as to what that calculation is. Because when you sit down with that | :34:35. | :34:39. | |
and spend some time looking at it, it becomes clear that this is just | :34:40. | :34:42. | |
an attempt to dupe people What we have seen in a lot of these | :34:43. | :34:45. | |
leases and contracts If you think what doubling the rent | :34:46. | :34:51. | |
every ten years actually means in investment terms, | :34:52. | :35:02. | |
it means that the rent will be going up by 7% a year, | :35:03. | :35:04. | |
a guaranteed 7% return is pretty And so this is what has created | :35:05. | :35:07. | |
these new investment vehicles that are so interesting to, | :35:08. | :35:17. | |
say, pension funds and other People like Luke freely enter | :35:18. | :35:19. | |
into these contracts The allegation is not that | :35:20. | :35:32. | |
Martin Payne expects people to pay these ridiculous sums, | :35:33. | :35:38. | |
it's that he's banking on solicitors to miss the clauses | :35:39. | :35:39. | |
and pay him to remove them. Let's talk to Joanne Darbyshire, | :35:40. | :35:42. | |
who is a leaseholder who bought her home from Taylor Wimpey and then | :35:43. | :36:13. | |
discovered that her ground rent We're also joined by | :36:14. | :36:16. | |
Sebastian O'Kelly from Leasehold Knowledge Partnership, | :36:17. | :36:22. | |
who has been campaigning And Sir Peter Bottomley, | :36:23. | :36:24. | |
a Conservative MP and chairman of the cross-party MPs' group | :36:25. | :36:27. | |
on leaseholder reform. Bringing it up in the Commons next | :36:28. | :36:37. | |
week. Thank you all for joining us. Taylor Wimpey putting aside ?130 | :36:38. | :36:42. | |
million, what is the money for? And how significant is it? It's a very | :36:43. | :36:48. | |
good question. If a significant sign of contrition, something went very | :36:49. | :36:53. | |
seriously wrong, here. But what is the money for? With leasehold house | :36:54. | :36:56. | |
owners, we would like to see them using the money to offer the | :36:57. | :36:59. | |
freehold back to the original buyers at the price that was originally | :37:00. | :37:04. | |
offered. Unfortunately Taylor Wimpey sold these freeholds off to some of | :37:05. | :37:07. | |
the most hard-nosed sharks in the property game. How they get them off | :37:08. | :37:12. | |
them is an open question. With flat owners, there will have to be a deal | :37:13. | :37:15. | |
of variation to reduce the ground rents. I would suggest they reduce | :37:16. | :37:20. | |
it to zero, what is ground rent for? It goes straight into the pockets... | :37:21. | :37:24. | |
T.I.N.A. Of the freeholders for no service whatsoever. -- straight into | :37:25. | :37:30. | |
the hands of freeholders. Joanna, you bought a leasehold flat with a | :37:31. | :37:33. | |
doubling ground red arrangement, when did it become clear to you that | :37:34. | :37:38. | |
the ground rent would double? -- ground rent. It was clear but we | :37:39. | :37:42. | |
always intended to buy the freehold. At the point of sale we were told it | :37:43. | :37:47. | |
would be about ?5,000 - ?6,000. Neither Taylor Wimpey nor the | :37:48. | :37:51. | |
conveyancing solicitor that they recommended we use informed us that | :37:52. | :37:56. | |
there was freeholds would be sold on to investment companies who would | :37:57. | :38:00. | |
then want thousands and thousands of pounds to buy them. The situation | :38:01. | :38:08. | |
you find yourself in now is what? It's more on clear after yesterday | :38:09. | :38:12. | |
but it's fair to say that had we purchased the freehold from Taylor | :38:13. | :38:16. | |
Wimpey when we bought a house in December 2010, we would have paid | :38:17. | :38:21. | |
them just less than ?6,000 for it. Our best option now is to use a | :38:22. | :38:25. | |
process called enfranchisement to agree a fair price with the current | :38:26. | :38:30. | |
freeholder. That's likely to be anything in the region from ?11,000 | :38:31. | :38:36. | |
- ?26,000 plus costs. You know someone who actually tried to sell | :38:37. | :38:39. | |
their house and that sale fell through because of the situation | :38:40. | :38:42. | |
with the ground rents, tell us what happened. That was one of my | :38:43. | :38:47. | |
neighbours, Claire. The house sale fell through on the actual day and | :38:48. | :38:50. | |
she had already completed on her new property and the house sale fell | :38:51. | :38:56. | |
through because the purchaser' solicitors identified the doubling | :38:57. | :38:59. | |
ground red claws and advised them to pull out of the sale. Sir Peter | :39:00. | :39:05. | |
Bottomley, it is an issue you are bringing up in the Commons. What can | :39:06. | :39:09. | |
be done to control what is going on here? First of all, we need to | :39:10. | :39:16. | |
distinguish between the Martin Payne character and the developers | :39:17. | :39:19. | |
including Taylor Wimpey. I welcome Taylor Wimpey doing something about | :39:20. | :39:23. | |
this. The modern painting I will return to some other time, probably | :39:24. | :39:28. | |
in Parliament. The pension fund to invest in the freehold companies, | :39:29. | :39:31. | |
the Adriatic saw this world, we need to say to them, don't act in a | :39:32. | :39:35. | |
socially irresponsible and corporately irresponsible way, we | :39:36. | :39:39. | |
don't want it. The people who are active in the freehold companies | :39:40. | :39:42. | |
like Adriatic ought to say how on earth can we multiply the value of | :39:43. | :39:46. | |
the freeholds we bought at SA 5000 up to 40000 and then try to in screw | :39:47. | :39:53. | |
ordinary it leasehold is -- up to 5000. The government needs to act. | :39:54. | :39:58. | |
The lawyers need to confess to all the mistakes they have made. And we | :39:59. | :40:02. | |
need to abolish new leasehold and the want of commonhold so none of | :40:03. | :40:05. | |
this can happen either by accident or design. It has been a total mess, | :40:06. | :40:13. | |
a swamp. The metaphors fail me. Or very people having their life | :40:14. | :40:16. | |
savings taken away by unfair and abusive terms -- it is ordinary | :40:17. | :40:20. | |
people having their life savings. Is the only way to get everybody to act | :40:21. | :40:27. | |
correctly to legislate? Legislation will help to make commonhold better | :40:28. | :40:31. | |
than leasehold. But some of the other abuses, the competition market | :40:32. | :40:34. | |
authority ought to look at some of these terms on a super complaint, | :40:35. | :40:38. | |
perhaps from the consumers Association and avoid them because | :40:39. | :40:41. | |
they are abusive. Anyone who thinks you can get to a ground rent of tens | :40:42. | :40:46. | |
of thousands of pounds let alone ?1 million on a small flat needs to | :40:47. | :40:49. | |
realise that what is being done is so wrong, whether criminal or not, | :40:50. | :40:54. | |
it should be unenforceable, it is unfair. What would you say to | :40:55. | :41:00. | |
somebody, don't pay the ground rent? No, you've got to bed the ground | :41:01. | :41:03. | |
rent otherwise you are evicted. Other people around in the leasehold | :41:04. | :41:10. | |
forest to mix metaphors again who I'm evicting, trying to evict some | :41:11. | :41:12. | |
of my constituents through other little stratagems. For not paying | :41:13. | :41:14. | |
ground rent? It's too conjugated to explain. It | :41:15. | :41:27. | |
is a park home issue. -- it is too complicated. You don't want to get | :41:28. | :41:30. | |
evicted but you need to say to people come and defend in public | :41:31. | :41:34. | |
what you are doing. Taylor with the got involved in public discussion | :41:35. | :41:37. | |
and they have made their decision and I hope their directors are glad | :41:38. | :41:41. | |
that I intervenes -- Taylor Wimpey got involved. Bell we haven't. A | :41:42. | :41:46. | |
number of other companies need to do what they are doing. -- | :41:47. | :41:49. | |
. Taylor Wimpey haven't completely solve the problem. Sebastian Coe | :41:50. | :41:57. | |
Kelly has explained it. Sebastian Coe Kelly and Martin Boyd together | :41:58. | :42:00. | |
at the charity leasehold knowledge partnership have done more than 650 | :42:01. | :42:06. | |
MPs and more than 45 governments. It is a nonparty issue and we need to | :42:07. | :42:09. | |
work together to solve it. It is no doubt a subject we will return to. | :42:10. | :42:12. | |
Thank you very much. We asked Taylor Wimpey to come | :42:13. | :42:16. | |
on the programme, they declined. In a statement, the Chief | :42:17. | :42:19. | |
Executive Pete Redfern said: "We've listened to the concerns | :42:20. | :42:26. | |
and difficulties that some of our customers have faced | :42:27. | :42:28. | |
as a result of their doubling lease We are sorry for the worry | :42:29. | :42:31. | |
this has caused them." And they go on to say: "We have | :42:32. | :42:35. | |
recently decided that all future sales of Taylor Wimpey houses | :42:36. | :42:38. | |
on new developments commencing from 1 January 2017 will be | :42:39. | :42:40. | |
on a freehold basis - except where we don't | :42:41. | :42:43. | |
own the freehold." Our next report contains some | :42:44. | :42:46. | |
graphic descriptions and pictures that you may not want | :42:47. | :42:49. | |
your children to see. December 2014 changed | :42:50. | :42:52. | |
the life of one young Ahmad Nawaz went to school as he did | :42:53. | :42:59. | |
every day with his brother Harris in Peshawar in Pakistan and whilst | :43:00. | :43:05. | |
he was practicing first aid with his class friends, the Taliban | :43:06. | :43:10. | |
entered his school and murdered 141 people, 132 of which where children | :43:11. | :43:16. | |
including his brother. Today, Ahmad who now | :43:17. | :43:21. | |
lives in Birmingham has started a education campaign to help | :43:22. | :43:23. | |
steer some school children away from a life of violence | :43:24. | :43:25. | |
and radicalisation. Our reporter Emb Hashmi has been | :43:26. | :43:27. | |
to look at his anti-extremism work. It started as a normal school day | :43:28. | :43:38. | |
but it turned into a massacre. Many students are the children | :43:39. | :43:41. | |
of the Pakistani military. A normal schoolboy's | :43:42. | :43:44. | |
life is changed for ever The Army Public Schools | :43:45. | :43:46. | |
in Peshawar in Pakistan was attacked by the Taliban, | :43:47. | :43:51. | |
killing 141 people, 132 of Ahmad is one of the survivors | :43:52. | :43:54. | |
and came to Birmingham for He now uses his experience | :43:55. | :44:00. | |
as a tool to educate students in the UK and deter some | :44:01. | :44:03. | |
from being radicalised. I have no words to | :44:04. | :44:10. | |
explain that moment. I really felt upset and shocking, | :44:11. | :44:14. | |
because he lost his brother. He thinks that the best | :44:15. | :44:17. | |
method to challenge an ideology is through | :44:18. | :44:24. | |
people to be educated. My name is Ahmad Nawaz | :44:25. | :44:37. | |
and I'm 16 years old. Ahmed now speaks at | :44:38. | :44:47. | |
a variety of schools up and down the country to help | :44:48. | :44:50. | |
young people steer away from a life Today, he is speaking | :44:51. | :44:54. | |
at Rockwood Academy, formerly known as Park View School | :44:55. | :45:01. | |
in Birmingham, that was part of the Trojan Horse inquiry | :45:02. | :45:03. | |
where it was claimed a group of conservative Muslims | :45:04. | :45:06. | |
were taking over a number I have lost my younger brother | :45:07. | :45:08. | |
and 132 friends in an attack I have no words to | :45:09. | :45:15. | |
describe the experience I have no words to | :45:16. | :45:30. | |
describe the experience I was in first aid training | :45:31. | :45:47. | |
with my schoolmates. Those happy moments of | :45:48. | :45:51. | |
laughing, joking and talking A group of men with | :45:52. | :45:53. | |
guns and bombs in their hands entered our school and | :45:54. | :45:57. | |
started firing, one after another. It was the most astonishing moment | :45:58. | :46:00. | |
of my life because I always thought that school is a safe place, | :46:01. | :46:04. | |
not a place where children would be All I could see was blood | :46:05. | :46:07. | |
and killing and soon I I was laying on the ground, | :46:08. | :46:14. | |
bleeding heavily. I was surrounded by the dead bodies | :46:15. | :46:28. | |
of my dearest friends with whom I was laughing and talking | :46:29. | :46:31. | |
and joking a few minutes ago. Bombing and firing did | :46:32. | :46:35. | |
not stop for long and I thought I could be | :46:36. | :46:37. | |
the next one to be killed. I saw my teacher burned alive | :46:38. | :46:40. | |
but I couldn't help her because my wounds did | :46:41. | :46:43. | |
not let me help her. The terrorists were merciless, | :46:44. | :46:45. | |
they would shoot children My school uniform was red | :46:46. | :46:47. | |
in blood so I pretended to be dead so the terrorists did not | :46:48. | :46:53. | |
notice I was alive, otherwise they Two hours later, | :46:54. | :46:56. | |
the rescuers came and threw me into an ambulance | :46:57. | :47:08. | |
full of dead bodies. This gave me hope | :47:09. | :47:13. | |
that I may survive. In that tragic situation, | :47:14. | :47:18. | |
I had forgotten about my After 15 days, I found out | :47:19. | :47:20. | |
from my friend that Harris I have decided not to be | :47:21. | :47:26. | |
afraid and step back. I will continue to speak | :47:27. | :47:35. | |
and share mine and my friends' stories, | :47:36. | :47:37. | |
to tell the world that the future generation of this world | :47:38. | :47:39. | |
can only have a better My survival in that | :47:40. | :47:42. | |
massacre is a miracle. That's why I have | :47:43. | :47:46. | |
started a campaign. I want to continue | :47:47. | :47:48. | |
spreading this great I want to say this | :47:49. | :47:50. | |
to those students who are inspired by the terrorist | :47:51. | :47:55. | |
ideologies and are running towards different countries | :47:56. | :47:58. | |
like Syria and Iraq. They are not the right people | :47:59. | :48:01. | |
and they do not belong to I'm a proud Muslim | :48:02. | :48:07. | |
and a humanitarian. I know that Islam doesn't teach | :48:08. | :48:12. | |
us about brutality, it In fact, no religion | :48:13. | :48:15. | |
teaches about brutality He's a survivor of an attack | :48:16. | :48:20. | |
in his home country of Pakistan. Donna from the Anne Frank Trust | :48:21. | :48:27. | |
helps Ahmad get his message He's been in to excess of ten | :48:28. | :48:31. | |
schools just with me. Probably at each reception having | :48:32. | :48:38. | |
400 pupils, seeing him speak He's been brave and courageous as | :48:39. | :48:41. | |
he's able to speak in front of all these people and tell them | :48:42. | :48:53. | |
what he's been through. The people of Lockwood learned that | :48:54. | :48:57. | |
you should appreciate your education here because, | :48:58. | :48:59. | |
if you don't appreciate it, you should think about the people | :49:00. | :49:02. | |
of Pakistan Nelson Mandela said | :49:03. | :49:04. | |
education is the most powerful weapon you can use | :49:05. | :49:07. | |
to change the world. One thing that helps Ahmad | :49:08. | :49:14. | |
focus on his education campaign is remembering the happier | :49:15. | :49:20. | |
times with his brother, Harris, That's my birthday, | :49:21. | :49:25. | |
my dad was giving me The scars of the 16th | :49:26. | :49:31. | |
of December 2014 I have no words to | :49:32. | :49:44. | |
explain that moment. It is a very bad | :49:45. | :49:52. | |
incident and we can't... We want to get off | :49:53. | :49:59. | |
this but we can't. This was specially sent | :50:00. | :50:04. | |
by Theresa May's office, When we can educate them, we can | :50:05. | :50:07. | |
finish the ideology of terrorism. I want this message to be spread | :50:08. | :50:15. | |
throughout the world, as much as I I think I have stopped students | :50:16. | :50:19. | |
from being radicalised and going towards these | :50:20. | :50:24. | |
terrorist activities. I am proud of myself, | :50:25. | :50:30. | |
as I did that by going to schools and | :50:31. | :50:34. | |
talking to children. I think this is a great | :50:35. | :50:36. | |
success for me. I dream of peace, safety | :50:37. | :50:42. | |
and education for every child. I dream no child has | :50:43. | :50:45. | |
feel of being killed I dream of love, peace | :50:46. | :50:49. | |
and harmony in this world. The general election | :50:50. | :51:07. | |
didn't just take the media So some of them are finding | :51:08. | :51:09. | |
new ways to raise money, There've been plenty of scandals | :51:10. | :51:17. | |
in recent years involving politicians and the people | :51:18. | :51:21. | |
they receive money from, so could this be a new way | :51:22. | :51:25. | |
of funding politics, and reducing the influence | :51:26. | :51:28. | |
of big money? Let's talk now to Paul Hilder, | :51:29. | :51:32. | |
founder of a "political matchmaker" website which lets you fund causes | :51:33. | :51:34. | |
close to your heart And joining us is John Mills, | :51:35. | :51:37. | |
a more traditional sort of donor, he gave almost ?2 million | :51:38. | :51:40. | |
to the Labour Party. Bess Mayhew is crowdfunding | :51:41. | :51:43. | |
what she says is a new generation of MPs to fight for a more united | :51:44. | :51:45. | |
Britain. We are joined by all of them now. | :51:46. | :52:02. | |
How many people are actually getting involved in this way? How much | :52:03. | :52:07. | |
activity are you seeing on your sites? We have tens of thousands of | :52:08. | :52:10. | |
people using our site every day to try to find the candidate or party | :52:11. | :52:14. | |
closest to them because you have never had a more volatile moment. | :52:15. | :52:19. | |
Dozens of candidates who are either live crowdfunding on the platform | :52:20. | :52:23. | |
now or talking to us about getting their pages up fast. Dozens of | :52:24. | :52:28. | |
candidates coming forward. Still quite small in terms of the overall | :52:29. | :52:36. | |
picture? Still quite small. The election was only called ten days | :52:37. | :52:41. | |
ago. People have been opening their offices. We have 80,000 supporters | :52:42. | :52:48. | |
so far and have raised a huge chunk of money. It puts us to the top | :52:49. | :52:52. | |
three donors in the hole politics in the UK. That is incredible for those | :52:53. | :52:57. | |
80,000 supporters are going to be selecting candidates we think agree | :52:58. | :53:01. | |
with our values regardless of the party they are from but it is giving | :53:02. | :53:05. | |
people a way to influence politics or do not currently have without | :53:06. | :53:10. | |
having to go through a party route. It is about good people getting into | :53:11. | :53:14. | |
Parliament regardless of the party they are from. You are a traditional | :53:15. | :53:20. | |
kind of donor. You opened your cheque book and wrote a hefty cheque | :53:21. | :53:23. | |
to the Labour Party. What do you think about this way of funding? | :53:24. | :53:28. | |
Whether it will produce enough extra funds to pay the wake of -- pave the | :53:29. | :53:35. | |
way politics is paid for is a question. Last summer I was involved | :53:36. | :53:43. | |
with the campaign in connection with the Brexit vote. We raised about 10% | :53:44. | :53:49. | |
of the total funds deployed out of crowdfunding. It is not enough to | :53:50. | :53:55. | |
change the world. When you look at the United States, which is several | :53:56. | :53:59. | |
steps ahead of us, Bernie Sanders raised $200 million from individual | :54:00. | :54:06. | |
donations. Do think it will go that way here? Or are we not used to it | :54:07. | :54:13. | |
and it will take time to change? We are less used to it than them. I | :54:14. | :54:18. | |
spent time with the Bernie campaign. They raised all their money through | :54:19. | :54:24. | |
small donations he could not have been competitive had that not | :54:25. | :54:29. | |
happened. Trump raised a greater source of his donations from smaller | :54:30. | :54:37. | |
sources than Obama did. We saw the doctor declared against a Republican | :54:38. | :54:44. | |
congressman and she raised half $1 million in two weeks. Then | :54:45. | :54:47. | |
Republican congressmen announced he was standing down. What does this do | :54:48. | :54:50. | |
in terms of empowering people who might not traditionally be going | :54:51. | :54:56. | |
into politics? It is significant. From a more united point of view, we | :54:57. | :55:00. | |
are about people and not parties. We are about getting the best people | :55:01. | :55:05. | |
elected to Parliament, regardless of what party they are from. Most | :55:06. | :55:11. | |
people are turned off by the party system and do not want to sign up | :55:12. | :55:16. | |
lock, stock and barrel will stop if you are told a candidate might be a | :55:17. | :55:21. | |
good person to elect a connection they are electing people who agree | :55:22. | :55:25. | |
with their values rather than putting everything behind one party. | :55:26. | :55:29. | |
People are crying out for something to get involved. They need to be | :55:30. | :55:36. | |
given that confidence that they feel comfortable doing so. Overall, is it | :55:37. | :55:41. | |
a good thing for politics if it does work? I think it does. There has | :55:42. | :55:46. | |
always been huge controversy about how politics should be funded. There | :55:47. | :55:51. | |
are various different ways. You can have donors and parties funded out | :55:52. | :55:55. | |
of taxation, or you can go for things like crowdfunding. There are | :55:56. | :56:01. | |
disadvantages with all of these. There is a lot of logic in a way | :56:02. | :56:06. | |
about having parties funded partly by taxation. There is a huge amount | :56:07. | :56:10. | |
of opposition to this. I'm not sure it will happen. Why did you decide | :56:11. | :56:15. | |
to give a large sum of money to a political party? People think, is it | :56:16. | :56:20. | |
for influence, for prestige? What is it? I have been involved with the | :56:21. | :56:25. | |
Labour Party for years and years. I have been lucky enough to build up a | :56:26. | :56:29. | |
business that has been successful. I thought that was a way to pay back | :56:30. | :56:34. | |
some of the debts built up over the years. Possibly to gain influence. | :56:35. | :56:48. | |
It was relatively Netherlands. A lot of big donors do have benevolent | :56:49. | :56:56. | |
principles. -- benevolence. Labour is partly funded by its membership, | :56:57. | :57:01. | |
which is good, but also by the unions. The Conservative Party | :57:02. | :57:04. | |
historically over the past five years has primarily been funded by | :57:05. | :57:08. | |
hedge fund is. I think it is possible to make the case that a lot | :57:09. | :57:14. | |
of the existing institutions in politics and the parties are | :57:15. | :57:17. | |
slightly rotting and slightly broken in terms of how they operate. What | :57:18. | :57:23. | |
we are trying to do is to provide an open platform where you can do it in | :57:24. | :57:27. | |
a different way. One thing you can do is nominate anybody you think | :57:28. | :57:33. | |
should have a particular office. If you want them to be your local | :57:34. | :57:37. | |
Labour MP, though Ukip MP, or whatever. You can nominate them on | :57:38. | :57:42. | |
our side and start gathering pledges of support for them before they have | :57:43. | :57:48. | |
agreed to be a candidate. What crowdfunding lets you do is replace | :57:49. | :57:52. | |
that big money with little money. My ?5 quite your ?10, it all adds up | :57:53. | :57:56. | |
together for them if enough people do it they can start to make a | :57:57. | :58:00. | |
difference. I agree with that. It does balance things out a bit. That | :58:01. | :58:06. | |
is a very helpful development. It'll be interesting to see where it goes. | :58:07. | :58:09. | |
Coming up in around an hour on the BBC News Channel... | :58:10. | :58:13. | |
We'll be putting your questions to the Ukip leader Paul Nuttall. | :58:14. | :58:15. | |
You can get in touch via Twitter using the hashtag BBC Ask This | :58:16. | :58:18. | |
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I will see very soon. Have a lovely weekend. Goodbye. | :58:23. | :58:32. |