23/01/2018 Victoria Derbyshire

Hello. It's Tuesday, it's 9am,

welcome to the programme.

An extra £1 million

a week for the NHS -

that's what Foreign Secretary Boris

Johnson is said to be calling for.

But is the money there?

Just piling in some extra cash

without thinking about the workforce

won't work.

We have to look at the whole system

and we have to start

doing that now.

As members of Theresa May's Cabinet

prepare to meet, we'll

have the latest from Westminster.

Also this morning: From Baywatch

star to global activist -

Pamela Anderson speaks to us

exclusively about politics,

feminism and Harvey Weinstein.

I don't know if they knew what they

were getting into, but again, I have

been offered to go to hotel rooms to

do a Private audition. I have gone

to a Hotel where I thought I was

meeting someone in the lobby, and

they asked me to go to their room to

talk about these pictures, and I

said no.

And the 2018 Academy

Awards.

If he did something wrong,

cross-reference it, make 100%

certain it was a correct match and

kill him.

We will preview the

runners and riders ahead of today's

announcement.

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Welcome to the programme,

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Our top story today...

The Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson

is expected to call for an extra one

hundred million pounds a week

for the NHS at a cabinet

meeting later this morning.

He'll make his case

when the Health Secretary,

Jeremy Hunt, gives an update

to his ministerial colleagues on how

the NHS is coping this winter.

Let's head straight over

to Westminster and get more on this

from our political guru

Norman Smith.

A very good morning to you, Norman.

Why is the Foreign Secretary asking

for more funding for health?

for more funding for health?

A lot

of people think this is going on...

Boris Johnson is on manoeuvres,

because this is highly unusual for

the Foreign Secretary or his friends

to be briefing what he's going to

say at Cabinet, because not

surprisingly, those discussions are

meant for cabin. More than that,

he's talking about funding for the

NHS and he is not the Health

Secretary, he is the Foreign

Secretary. There is a view, bluntly,

that Mr Johnson is trying to crowbar

Theresa May into backing his

infamous pledge - remember during

the referendum campaign, £350

million a week more for the NHS.

Now, 100 million is the net figure.

If you subtract all the cash we get

back from the EU from the 350

million, you get around about 100

million. The suggestion is that Mr

Johnson wants the Government to back

his proposal that he mooted in the

referendum campaign. That, not

surprisingly, has caused a lot of

grinding of teeth in Downing Street.

Have a listen to the Chancellor,

Philip Hammond, when he was asked

about Mr Johnson's thoughts this

morning.

Mr Johnson is the Foreign Secretary.

I gave the Health Secretary and

extra £6 billion at the recent

budget, and we will look at

departmental allocations again in

the spending review when that takes

place.

Philip Hammond giving a gentle

reminder that he is not, after all,

the Health Secretary. Why does this

matter? At many levels, it is a test

of Theresa May's authority - can she

reign in Boris Johnson? The timing

comes when all sorts of Tories are

popping up and saying that Mrs may

needs to be more radical. One MP is

tweeted that she was dull, dull. Mr

Johnson's suggestion could be seen

as one of those big ideas, so it

would be interpreted, if you like,

as another criticism of Mrs May for

not being radical enough.

Norman, is this really about a Boris

leadership bid?

I don't think it's

quite as simple as that. It is

partly about Boris Johnson trying to

shield himself from accusations that

he was telling lies about £350

million more for the NHS. He wants

to be vindicated. Part of it, too,

is a view amongst Brexit supporters

that Mrs May needs to strike a more

optimistic and confident argument

about Brexit, so why not say there

will be a big NHS dividend from

Brexit? And part of it may just be

that Boris Johnson is determined not

to sit silent. He has spoken out

previously on Brexit, setting out

his red lines. Now he is setting out

his red lines on the NHS.

Norman,

for now, thank you very much. And it

may play is in the BBC newsroom

summary of the rest the day's news.

England is lagging behind Scotland

and Wales when it comes

to introducing measures to improve

child health, according

to a new report.

The Royal College of Paediatrics

and Child Health says

children "deserve better",

but Westminster insists it has

"world-leading plans" in place.

The college also warns that obesity

could cause children to face

a lifelong battle with poor health.

Our Health Correspondent,

Dominic Hughes, has more.

Being healthy when you are young

makes a big difference

to your chances of good health

in later life.

At an after-school gym

session in Manchester

are sisters Grace and Mia.

Both of them enjoy the rewards

a work-out gives them.

Fitter, confident.

Just happier with yourself, yeah.

Personally, I just feel good

about myself, think I've done well,

and achieve better stuff.

But, when it comes to the health

of children and young people,

a report out last year showed the UK

was lagging behind

other European nations.

So, one year on, has

the situation improved?

In Scotland, there is praise

for a new mental health

strategy, and better support

for mothers who breast-feed.

Likewise in Wales, where

a smoking ban in playgrounds

has been introduced.

But the report says cuts to public

health budgets in England

are hitting children's services

hard, and the issue doesn't get

the same political attention.

A healthy child makes

a healthy adult.

A healthy adult is a productive

adult, and a productive adult

population is good for the economy.

It makes no sense whatsoever to not

really target the preservation

of health in childhood.

The Department of Health in England

says it has world-leading plans

in place to combat obesity

and improve mental health,

and the sugar tax is funding

breakfast clubs and sports.

Push back with your legs...

But this report warns that,

if our children and young people

don't get a good healthy start

in life, they are more likely

to struggle as adults.

Dominic Hughes, BBC News.

Nigel Farage has said the refusal

of the UKIP leader, Henry Bolton,

to resign could be a "lifeline"

for the party.

14 members of Mr Bolton's

senior team have quit

following the controversy

over his former girlfriend making

racist remarks about Meghan Markle.

Writing for the Daily Telegraph

website, Mr Farage said

if he had the courage,

Mr Bolton could use the situation

to force UKIP to change.

Tina will be speaking to Nigel

Farage about the Ukip crisis later

in this programme.

The UK's competition watchdog says

the takeover of sky by 21st-century

fox is not in the public interest.

It is said that if the deal went

ahead it would give Fox too much

control over news providers in the

UK. Fox has been trying to buy the

61% of sky that it doesn't own.

John Warboys has been moved to

Belmarsh prison in south-east

London. The process of setting

licence conditions has continued

with his release less than a week

away. The fact he has been moved to

a jail in London does not

necessarily mean he will be freed to

live in London.

A gas leak was discovered in central

London early this morning. The area

around the Strand has been cordoned

off. Motorists have been advised to

avoid the area. The London Fire

Brigade say they are still

investigating the cause. Lets get

up-to-date with our correspondent,

John McManus. This has been causing

considerable destruction - what is

the latest?

The Strand here, which

is normally very busy, is closed to

traffic and partly to pedestrians.

No trains arriving on leaving here

this morning. Waterloo station is

also closed, which will affect

commuters from south London, Surrey

and Kent this morning, all because

of this gas lick that was reported

at about 2am by several different

people. London Fire Brigade and the

Metropolitan police came down here

and evacuated the area.

and evacuated the area. One of

London's more famous nightclubs,

Heaven, was evacuated, and people

left in a bit of a rush, but there

were no injuries. This will continue

until the authorities can find out

whether gas leak is and the street

can be safely reopened.

John, thank

you very much. Police in Yorkshire

looking for a missing schoolgirl

have found a body in a river. The

girl was last seen on Monday

afternoon, dressed in her school

uniform. Police say there are no

suspicious circumstances surrounding

the death but are continuing to try

to establish the cause. Her family

have been informed.

Car manufacturer Jaguar Landrover

has announced it will cut production

at its Halewood Plant in Merseyside.

The firm had reported

experiencing a record year,

but says it's reviewing its plans

because of a fall in demand,

because of uncertainty over Brexit

and consumer concerns over

the future of diesel vehicles.

The US government shutdown is over -

temporarily, anyway -

after Republicans and Democrats

voted for a short-term funding bill.

Congress passed the legislation,

after the Democrats accepted

the promise of a broad debate

on the issue of immigration.

The so-called continuing resolution

keeps the government funded

until February the 8th in the hope

that Congress can reach

a longer term budget

agreement in the meantime.

Neil Diamond has announced his

retirement from the morning after he

was diagnosed with Parkinson's

disease. The 76 old singer said he

had made the decision with great

reluctance. In a statement, he

apologised to fans who had already

bought tickets for his tour of

Australia and New Zealand. He said

he would continue writing and

recording.

That's a summary of the latest BBC

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Time to get some sport with Holly.

What a morning for Kyle Edmund!

Yes, great news to wake up to, and

an incredible performance from Kyle

Edmund, just 23 years old. I think

after Andy Murray, who pulled out

injured at the beginning of the

tournament, and Johanna Konta going

out in the second round, all British

hopes rested on his shoulders. No

sign of that pressure today, beating

world number three Grigor Dimitrov,

rather convincingly too, it must be

said, despite the wobble in the

second set. A bit of tension at the

end, certainly, and he beat him for

- six, 6-3, 3-6 in just two hours

and 40 minutes, and looking very

much at home. It makes a only the

sixth British man to reach the last

four at the grand slam in the open

era, and it allows him to break into

the top 30 for the very first time

in his career. Afterwards, he said

it was an amazing feeling, and he

said, now I know what it feels like

to be Andy Murray for the last eight

years. I think that is something he

will have to get used to.

Speaking of Andy Murray, there is a

chance he could knock him off the

British number one spot.

Imagine that. Andy Murray has given

him an immense amount of support

over the years, giving him advice,

attended many of his matches while

he has been injured himself. He

introduced into his training camp in

Dubai. Andy Murray tweeted this

morning: He will be delighted for

Kyle Edmund. He knows the sheer

amount of work that will have gone

into this. There is another

quarterfinal going on just now

between Rafael Nadal and Marin

Cilic. Nadal is the current world

number one, so he will be the likely

favourite to meet Kyle Edmund in the

semifinal. Cilic on adult will be a

daunting press pick for Kyle Edmund,

but that will take place on Thursday

morning, our time. Perhaps it will

be Kyle Edmund versus Rafael Nadal

in the semifinal. That'll be

something worth watching. It will be

an evening match in Australia, so at

least we will be awake to watch it

as well.

That is good to know!

From starring in Baywatch

to appearing on a record 14 Playboy

covers, Pamela Anderson

was the inescapable

face of the 1990s.

But from being a pin up, she's now

known for her activism, campaigning

and political engagement.

She spoke to us exclusively

a little earlier.

She began by talking about her role

as a feminist.

I'm going to write a

book called Saving Women From

Feminism.

What Does That Mean?

Be

careful what you wish for. I believe

in romantic love and chivalry, and I

wrote a book that is coming out

wrote a book that is coming out in

April, my co-writer with a religious

point of view, and the romantic and

sexy life, and wanting men to make

the first move, and also being the

mother of two Matt Young boys and

concern for them, and for them to be

able to have the security and feel

confident enough to take that role

as the man in a relationship and to

respect women. It's complicated.

It's great. Feminism, obviously, in

the last 50 years, has given us so

much freedom in so many great

things, but I think that in some

cases, even progressive countries

like Sweden, a condom breaks and it

is a sexual assault. That is going

too far.

You're talking about Julian

Assange, who we will come back to.

How do you think that being a

Playboy playmate fits in with you

being a feminist?

Well, no one forced me to be a

playmate. Hefner was an incredible

pioneer and really empowered women

and empowered a lot of people and

was a self rights activist and art

lover and freedom fighter and just

created this really fun lifestyle

that I wish everybody could be a

part of. It wasn't as sleazy or

terrible as people might think. It

was very respectful and wonderful

and girls got to make careers out of

this.

But what about people who say

it's equivalent to colluding with

men who objectify and exploit women?

I think it goes both ways. I think

women, we have our ways and men

maybe are a little rough around the

edges steams and as a parent of two

young boys it is really important to

teach our kids to be respectful and

you know, but there is that, you

know, uncomfortable, you know, as

women we don't want to know

everything that men maybe talk

about. It is just, I think, I don't

think, I think we need to just relax

a little bit and be who we are and

it's fun. It is a powerful position

to be a woman and we do have super

powers.

Do you think the Me Too And

Time's Up movements are empowering

women?

It is great to have the

discussion and make women feel more

comfortable and I believe hashtags.

We sometimes believe we are doing

something and we need to, you know,

have these discussions and prosecute

these people in a court of law and

not feel like if we have just said

something, that we've done

something, that awareness is good,

but action is more important.

People

use the hashtag and social media as

a platform to share their

experiences so other women maybe

encouraged to come forward to talk

about their own?

I have been in

lunches with women who said this

happened to me when I was young or

this happened to me. It seems to be

around the kitchen table talk more

too because. As a young person, as a

child, you know, and it's difficult

maybe to talk about, you don't know

if it is right or wrong, but if you

do know it is right or wrong, you

have to take precautions.

Have you

suffered harassment?

Yes, Hollywood,

but my mother always told me not to

get into a car with strangers and

not to go a hotel room alone. I had

this common sense feeling of how to

protect myself and because of the

business I was in and because I was

in Playboy, I was cautious of people

getting the wrong imprrks. I believe

people have been victims innocently

and the perpetrator is always at

fault, but we also need to remember

to not put ourselves in these

situations as women.

Which brings me

on to my next point. You've also

spoken out about Harvey Weinstein

and said the victims who went to his

hotel room alone knew what they were

getting into. Can understand why

there was a backlash about that?

I

don't know if they knew what they

were getting into. I have been

offered to go to hotel rooms to do a

private audition. I have gone to a

hotel where I thought I was meeting

somebody in the lobby and I had

people with me and they asked me to

go to their room to talk about the

pictures. If an agent asks to meet

you at a hotel, your producer should

go with you.

It implies the women

are at fault for what may happen to

them?

They are not at fault, but

they need to be, you need to be more

protective of yourself and even in

colleges I find young girls drinking

and put themselves in this

situation, these boys have been away

from home for the first time and

they are full of testosterone and

people are loaded with information

and a woman in that position is in a

dangerous position so you have to be

careful and we can ruin boys lives

and women's lives this way.

People

watching at home may think it is

similar to victim blaming and also

much in the same way that women are

held responsible for assault if they

were dressed a certain way, if they

look a certain way, if they go to a

certain place, if they stay out too

late.

I think I am a good person to

discuss this because of my image and

I have just learned to not put

myself in positions where I could be

in any danger. I think that's an OK

thing to say and I have had some

lack bash, but I have had support

from women saying this and men

saying, "Thank god for saying this."

It is a crazy world and I think it

is good. There is a lot of

opportunity for change and a lot of

opportunity for improving our lives

as women and in politics and even

though it seems kind of scary now

that Trump is president, I think

there is a lot of possibility for

people with good ideas to come

forward and do it better than it was

because I think people did have a

problem with the way governments are

run even in Europe as well, there is

hopefully new brains, new ways that

are going to come forward. I think

it is an opportunity.

Why are you

here in London at the moment?

Well,

I was here

I was here moderating a conversation

between the women of wicky leeks.

This is a great book. Yulian is

surrounded by great women who run

this organisation and it goes

against the narrative that people

want to believe because people want

to think of misogynistic wicky

leeks, it is not true.

You went to

see Julian yesterday. How is he?

He

is good. The UN ruling is really

important to look at. That he is

held under terrible conditions and

it's inhumane and cruel and he

should not be there.

He has

Ecuadorian nationality now. Is he

planning to leave the embassy any

time soon? Did you speak to him

about that?

Wouldn't that be great?

It is impossible for him to leave

under any safe circumstances with

the extradition pending in the UK or

you know, you don't know so it's not

safe for him to leave.

Did you talk

about that yesterday?

Yes, we talk

about everything. I always make sure

he is OK and make sure he is

exercising and eating well. He

doesn't get any sunlight, you know,

so it's very unhealthy situation for

him, but he is determined and

relentless and in good spirits and

what he is doing is very, very

important and we need to know, we

need to have true information.

He is

a controversial figure. You have

dual American Canadian nationality.

Your home country, America,

considers wicky leeks to be a

national security threat. How does

that sit with you?

I think it is

bizarre to have true information

being a national security threat is

bizarre and to be considered radical

for exposing truths and truths in

full.

Have you tried to use your

position to speak to anybody in the

American government such adds the

Attorney-General Jeff Sessions about

his situation?

I haven't been able

to get to him, but Jeff Sessions has

made Julian a priority to arrest.

There is an American, there is a lot

of things to be concerned about, but

this is the future and this is a lot

of young people who really believe

in the movement and want to know

what is going on and we have to find

true ways and I always say if you're

watching, if you're watching CNN

maybe watch RT and you maybe able to

get the truth. I don't know about

the British channels. The channels

are run by big corporations and we

are in a Google government world.

It's important to understand that

technology is also spying on us and

getting information.

How do you

respond to criticism of your

relationship with Julian Assange?

I

would rather be a friend to anybody.

I think he is, he's so full of

information and has an incredible

prospective and is a genius and the

ultimate goal is to stop the

senseless wars. How bad is that?

We

are talking about women. We're

talking about the Me Too meet.

Julian Assange was accused of rape,

the charges were dropped last year,

but did you ever ask him the truth

about the sexual assault claims made

about him?

It was very important to

me. That's the best way to discredit

somebody is to call them a rapist or

paedophile. This was a set-up. This

was not something that was true.

This was a man being investigated

over rape. Yes, the investigation

was dropped, but is that

unquestioning support compatible

with your support for example for

the Me Too movement?

If you look at

the UN ruling, you can look at the

details, the embarrassing details of

the sexual experiences and they were

very, very nothing. They are nothing

went wrong. It was... It was an idea

to discredit him, to extradite him

to the States.

Did you ever ask

yourself, "What if I'm wrong?"

I

know I'm not wrong.

You weren't

there. We weren't there. I wasn't

there.

I read the details of the

case and if you look at how the UK

is treating this and how they have

not allowed all this information to

come into the public, it's very

sordid and bizarre and as a man and

mother of two young boys if my sons

were in this situation I would feel

the same way.

Holding the opinions

that you do, how do you feel about

travelling in the United States

going back home, were you are you

living at the moment?

I live in

France. I love living in the south

of France, I always wanted to at

this point in my life and I have my

house in Malibu, which I rent out,

when I wander around and I am in

circles of Hollywood, I get a lot of

backlash there too, but I can talk

them down after a while because it

seems this really raw reaction

that's uninformed and by the time we

talk for a while, people say, "I

understand. We just have this

painted picture." Especially in

America that I think is interesting,

but you have to educate yourself

about the issue before you can

really have this strong opinion.

Who

did you vote for in the US election?

Well, I did vote for Obama the first

time that I did vote and then I

voted for Stein in the second, but

I... Are you friends with Donald

Trump?

No, but I did appear, I

think, it was a birthday, it was a

paid appearance, it was years and

years ago, who would have thought he

would have been president?

You

didn't vote for him?

No. No, I can

say that. I can say that. But...

Who

did you vote for?

I'd rather not,

but it was not him and it was not

Hillary Clinton, it was just very...

There was really no good option

except someone came up with a new

idea. This is what the opportunity

is.

And a year on, what do you think

of his record?

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Obviously I'm a an environmentalist.

That upsets me that he is in denial

of climate change. A lot of his,

it's difficult. You know, it's very

difficult, but like I say, I'm going

to look at this as an opportunity to

have someone come forward and do

something good. I don't think there

is a lot of good options right now

and I think America is a little

cuckoo right now.

It would be

interesting getting your views on

Julian Assange getting Donald Trump

elected.

Those were just Hillary's

words. It is very important for

people to understand the truth

before they vote for somebody. So I

don't think, I know, I know he did

not think that Donald Trump was

going to win.

The fact that he sort

of gone from Julian Assange being

this left-wing hero to winning the

support of right-wing nationalists?

I don't think he has the support, I

think he has the support of a lot of

different people across both boards,

but obviously they're still trying

to arrest him and Donald Trump is no

friend of Julian Assange.

Is it true

that you're famous with Malania.

I

sent her a fake fur coat and it was

great that she wrote me this

beautiful note back and thanked me

because she was a big fur wearer and

as First Lady and I wanted to make

sure she would follow in the

footsteps of other ladies who don't

wear fur.

A different reaction from

kim Kardashian.

I don't know Kim.

They have always been, her family

has been very kind to me and looked

up to me and I would hope that would

use a platform for more good and

wearing fur is just, I mean they

have a full fur line for kids which

is fantastic, so I was trying to

encourage her to wear full fur too.

What are your priorities for 2018?

Well, I am living in France and

there is a lot of animal issues and

marine land that I'm going after and

it's a great, it's difficult to be

vegan in France. I shouldn't say

it's difficult, but there can be...

Challenging.

It is challenging and

there is a lot of issues in France

that I want to, I met with, you

know, I met with the Mayor of Paris

and we talked about sustainable

issues, how to be more involved and

this is what I love to do with my

life at this point. I'm doing a

magic show right now running around

so between magic shows I read this

book!

Very varied.

Smoke and mir rs

and all sorts of things.

And popping

into the embassy to see Julian

Assange.

I like the balance of my

life and being in France and

learning a new culture and new

language, I highly recommend it

especially half-way through your

life, it is good to kind of do

something really scary and

interesting and it keeps you young.

Well, you look fantastic for your

age. I can't believe you're 50 by

the way.

I can't either. My mind is

my fountain of youth.

Well, whatever

the secret is, I want it. It has

been a pleasure speaking to you,

Pamela.

Still to come:

Ukip Leader

Henry Bolton has insisted

he won't stand down,

despite 14 senior figures

resigning from the party.

Does Ukip have a future?

We'll put that question to former

Leader Nigel Farage.

In fact, the figure has gone up to

16 now.

Will Gary Oldman's portrayal of

Winston Churchill be his finest

hour? We look forward to the 2018

Oscars nominations.

It's time for the latest

news, here's Ben.

The BBC News headlines this morning.

Boris Johnson is expected to call

for an extra £100 million a week for

the NHS at a cabinet meeting this

morning. He will make his case when

Jeremy Hunt gives an update on how

the NHS is coping this winter. It

comes as fresh evidence has emerged

of the intense strain hospitals

across the UK are now wonder.

England is lagging behind Scotland

and Wales when it comes to

introducing measures to improve

child health, according to a new

report from the Royal College of

paediatrics and Child health. It

also warns that four out of five

young people who are obese will

battle ill-health for the rest of

their lives. Westminster insist it

has world leading plans in place,

and in the past year, both teenage

pregnancies and child mortality have

fallen to a all-time lows.

Nigel Farage has said that the

refusal of Henry Bolton to resign

could be a lifeline. 16 party

spokespeople have quit following the

controversy over his former

girlfriend making racist remarks

about Meghan Markle. Writing for the

daily Telegraph website, Nigel

Farage said that if he had the

courage, Mr Bolton could use the

situation to force Ukip the change.

Police in Yorkshire looking for a

missing schoolgirl have found a body

in a river. The girl was last seen

on Monday afternoon dressed in her

school uniform. Police say there are

no suspicious circumstances but they

continuing to establish the cause.

Her family have been informed.

That's the latest BBC News.

Here's some sport now with Holly.

Coming up, we will have more

reaction to Kyle Edmund's victory in

the quarterfinals in Melbourne. He

beat world number three Grigor

Dimitrov to reach the semifinal,

where he will face Rafael Nadal or

Marin Cilic next. The world number

one and number four are on court at

the moment for that quarterfinal.

McDowell has taken the first set

6-3. A short time ago, it was 3-3 in

the second.

Liverpool

Liverpool suffered a surprise 1-0

defeat yesterday. Jurgen Klopp was

criticised for being drawn into an

argument with the support.

Ben Stokes won't join up with his

England team-mates at the start of

next month as planned. His court

appearance falls on the same day as

his England return. More sport

later. I want to get some of your

comments on our exclusive interview

with Pamela Anderson, which we

started this morning's programme

with. Stephen says: A refreshing

change, listening to Pamela

Anderson. A strong woman in control

and not looking to follow political

correctness with her views. From

Holly: It's not your fault if you go

to our hotel etc. Why should we have

to protect ourselves from abusive

men? Rather better for men to stop

being abusive. It is never our

fault. From Morgan: Finally, a

celebrity who really knows what is

going on. Elaine says: Vulnerable

young women have suffered. And we

will finish on Tim: Pamela Anderson

speaking complete sense. It is nice

to hear the other side for a change.

And it is nice to get all of your

messages, too. Keep them coming.

Henry Bolton has decided he won't

resign despite the resignation of 14

party members. He says he has the

backing of hundreds of party

members. Elizabeth Jones is chair of

the party's Lambeth branch and was a

candidate in the last leadership

election. We will hear from Nigel

Farage after ten. Let's hear what

you think about the past 24 hours,

but the party has been in meltdown

since the weekend, and arguably

before then.

I wouldn't say it has

been in meltdown as such. We have

had worse situations. We had to have

an EGM in 99 when Nigel Farage

called one to remove the then

leader. We have experienced these

situations in the past, and we will

survive. I have every confidence we

will go on and survive. We still

don't have an exit from the EU.

Brexit still hasn't happened.

Unfortunately, it appears to be led

by a rather weak and diffident

leader in Theresa May, and while she

is they're dragging out the

transition period, there was most

certainly a space for Ukip in the

political arena.

Most people would

argue that isn't the case because

Brexit is happening. It is going to

happen.

I admire your faith in the

political system, but it seems to be

happening at such a slow pace. It

seems to be that Theresa May is

supportive of a very watered down

version. It really isn't the Brexit

that many of the people in this

country voted for. I anticipate that

Ukip will be around for very much

longer. Don't forget, Ukip is, I

would say, the only radical

political voice in the United

Kingdom. We are for small

Government, low tax and the freedom

of the individual. Simply, we are

the only people offering that is.

Optimistic to say that Ukip will be

around for a long time. We have been

speaking to Nigel Farage this

morning, and he believes it may not

last for more than 18 months if

things carry on the way they are

going and the party doesn't sort

itself out.

Of course, that's his

take. I don't take everything Nigel

says as gospel. I'm on the National

committee, and I see the accounts, I

see how things are moving forward.

And I am reasonably confident that

we will still be around.

You backed

the vote of no-confidence in Henry

Bolton?

I certainly did.

Why?

He has

been leader for four months, and our

Constitution makes it clear that the

leader's duty is to provide

political direction for the party,

and to develop policy. He has done

nothing. He has not introduced any

new donors, has not devised any new

schemes for financing the party, and

we have absolute silence from him

with regard to political direction.

During the course of that meeting on

Sunday when we had the vote of no

confidence in him, I asked him, what

is your economic plan for a post

Brexit Britain? His response was,

you know, I've got a spokesman for

that. I said, all well and good, but

you were the leader and we look to

you for guidance - what is your

plan? Nothing, he hasn't considered

any of these major policy issues.

And they are the main reasons?

They

are for me.

What about the racist

text messages that were sent by his

former girlfriend?

Those, of course,

are very serious, and they go to the

heart of the character of the man.

Of course, there has been a huge

media brouhaha about that, and it

appears he is still seeing Jo

Marney, I don't know what kind of

relationship they have, but the main

thrust is the fact that the seven --

that he hasn't dispatched his duties

as leader. We have no local policies

because of him. We will have to put

our shoulders to the wheel and come

up with something.

Very quickly,

what should happen next?

Henry,

being a military man, should

consider a tactical retreat

forthwith.

Not sure that's going to

happen.

Probably not.

Thank you for

joining us. After 10am, we will hear

from former leader Nigel Farage.

Coming up:

Will Three Billboards -

the story of a mother's

fight for justice -

dominate the Oscar nominations?

We'll look ahead to

today's announcement.

Vulnerable people, including

the elderly and people

with learning difficulties,

are suffering abuse

and neglect despite living

in supported accommodation.

The BBC's File on 4 found

there were 31,000 safeguarding

alerts between 2014 and 2017

with annual alerts

increasing 30% in that time.

One aspect of the abuse

is so-called 'mate crimes',

where a vulnerable person

is befriended only to be coerced

in to handing over sums of money.

There were 4200 financial

alerts during that period,

but it's difficult for police

to gain a conviction because often

the victim is deemed

to be of sound mind,

and the law states they've

voluntarily given away money

or banking information.

We can speak to Nicole Koliopoulos.

She has learning difficulties

and had £5000 taken by someone

who befriended her.

Claudia MacAuley is a co-ordinator

at Camden People First.

Sheree Green is Chair

of the Law Society's Mental Health

and Disability Committee.

Dame Vera Baird is the Police and

Crime Commissioner for Northumbria.

Thank you for joining us today.

Nicole, let's start with you. Can

you talk us through what happened to

you?

I was in hospital because I

lost mobility in my legs. It was a

neurology hospital in London. At the

time, I was at my weakest stage,

because my ex partner had left me,

so I was very lonely, and I wanted

to have a friend. I met this lady in

the hospital, on the same ward as

myself, and we quickly befriended

each other. We became very close, so

I trusted her. Things were good at

the start, but then she started at

the beginning just asking me for a

favour, saying, I don't want to take

advantage of you, are you sure? Can

I borrow £300 towards a deposit the

wrap wheelchair? I said it was fine,

so I went with her to withdraw the

money and do that. -- for a

wheelchair? She then said she would

pay me back. It never happened, so

obviously, every time she kept

continuously asking.

And you were in

hospital at the time?

I was in

hospital for ten days. When I was at

my hostel where I used to live, she

used to call me to go round to her

house, to say that she wanted

company, and that is when she would

take advantage of me by getting me

to spend out on fancy restaurants

and food, take control of my card.

When I would ask for my card back,

she would be like, don't you trust

me or something? Then she would

carry on asking for big amounts,

saying she would pay me back.

How

much more?

In total, she took

much more?

In total, she took over

£5,000, over time, so 200 year, 100

there. She made a plan with me to

pay back the money, and she was

doing that to a certain extent, but

then, before Christmas, she made an

excuse, saying, I can't pay. But she

never paid. Beyond that, she said

she wasn't going to ask me for money

any more because she said she wasn't

in need, and then continued to ask

for more amounts of money. She knew

my payday when I was getting my

benefit, and that is when she were

took advantage, until the point

where I had no money left. When I

had no money left, she didn't want

to know me, so she didn't want to be

my friend. That's pretty much what

has happened.

Thanks for telling us

and sharing your story. Clothier,

you help people like Nicole - how

common is this? -- Claudia.

Quite

common.

common. Obviously, the disability is

not quite visual, it is hidden. They

are in the worst situation to be

exploited in lots of ways. The

exploitation can take place as

financial, emotional, sexual, so all

forms of abuse. It is safeguarding

issue. It is something do deal with

is quite commonly.

How do you deal

with those cases? How can you help

people like Nicole? I imagine

sometimes it may be too late. It

may, the stage when, like you, you

had given away all your money.

The

damage was done, and for me, this

lady ruined my life, because she

also pressured me into getting a

contract for her and her husband,

promising to pay, and she never did,

and I got into debt. She has left me

in a lot of trouble, obviously. I

came to a point where I couldn't pay

my rent and I was in arrears at the

hostel. If it wasn't for the support

of Camden People first, and my

family, I would be on the streets. I

was in that situation where I was

broke.

I want to bring in Sheree

Green necks. Why is it so difficult

for the law to help people like

Nicole?

Nicole and her desperately difficult

and painful story, Nicole is also a

very articulate person. She is able

to describe what has happened. She

would, to all intense and purposes,

be somebody who the law may judge

has capacity to make their own

decisions. Now, if Nicole was in a

different position, if she was not

so articulate and didn't quite

understand what was happening around

her, there would be some protective

measures under the Mental Capacity

Act which provides a framework and a

structure within which services can

work together to support people and

to protect them and to take matters

to the court. When somebody though

has capacity to make their own

decisions, they are as you said in

your introduction, they are seen as

making these decisions freely, being

their choice. But that is masking

what is truly going on because

Nicole in that situation doesn't

actually have very much free choice.

She is in a coercive and controlling

relationship. So, in that sense, she

is vulnerable to the advances to the

manipulation of this person and

there is no clear legal pathway for

authorities to plan, to work

together, to protect people in

thosecisions.

But for domestic abuse

cases there was a coercive control

order introduced. Would that work

for cases like Nicole's?

You're

right, yes. So, intimate

relationships, the serious crime act

has identified that manipulation,

control, has a serious impact on

somebody's life, financially and in

all other areas, but that at the

moment is only available to couples,

family members living together.

Something like that extended to

friends, acquaintances, informal

carers, neighbours, may provide a

criminal remedy, but the difficulty

is, of course is that sometimes it's

a question of shutting the stable

door after the horse has bolted.

Nicole would still possibly not get

her money back.

Vera, how much

responsibility do the police have

when it comes to vulnerable people?

Well, they do have a responsibility.

Nicole only suffered, I don't want

to make it sound small, it is

extremely grave, but often this

escalates and does become criminal

so that people are not only have

their money removed, but they are

threatened, they might be physically

assaulted. Their house might be

taken over. They will bring people

who deal drugs or have a great

party, they will go every week and

spend their benefits and give them a

lift to town and charge them £30 and

along the way criminality does

commence there are two real

characteristics about what is called

me crime, very few people report it

and she understandably and a lot of

people who have got learning

difficulties don't expect to be

believed, first of all they are

afraid and don't expect to be

believed. Charities think there are

more than 100,000 kinds of

situations like this every year, but

that only about 2% ever come to the

attention of the authorities. So the

first thing is to make sure

everybody works together so local

neighbours, charities, learning

disability charities, social

services, the police, if it's not a

crime, it is a safeguarding issue

for absolute certainty, but it does

often turn into criminality and I

think there is a lot to

think there is a lot to be said for

that in due course you need to

extend coercive control. The police

now understand that just because

somebody is not complaining of a

crime themselves doesn't mean it is

not happening. They are used to

modern slavery and trafficking and

child sexual exploitation and

domestic abuse in which the person

is controlled and unable to ask for

help. That's probably that is

something that could go part here.

So it is organisations working

together. What advice would you give

to maybe someone watching who maybe

in a vulnerable situation

themselves? What are the warning

signs? What should they do?

Well, we

go around and we actually got

funding from Choice for London to do

training to both professionals as

well as people with learning

disabilities. Professionals on the

side of what they need to look for

in their clients and in their

service users. That means social

services, social workers,

collisioners, psychologists, GPs and

we also provide training to schools

in terms of education because we

find out within the age range of 13

teenagers that, where it is more

prevalent. It is indicators that

they need to look out for. In terms

of learning disabilities we

encourage them to talk about it and

we support them and report it to the

police or social services so it can

be flagged up and as

be flagged up and as well to the GP

How are things for you

It is not

something you can forget when

someone does that to you especially

when all you do is offer your

kindness

kindness to help and support them.

Are things better for you now?

My

life is better now. I moved on from

that and I am not in touch with this

person anymore.

Do you want to show them the

T-shirt, Nicole?

Our organisation,

we have done T-shirts that say, if

you are my friend, why hurt me?

Let's stop crime happening.

Thank

you for joining us this morning.

Report it and don't be afraid is the

message. You can hear more on this

story this evening on Radio 4 at

8pm.

Stars of the silver screen will find

out today if they've made it

onto the list of nominees

for this year's Oscars.

Winners in each of the 24 categories

will be announced at the 90th

Academy Awards ceremony

on the 4th of March.

After a year in which Hollywood has

been rocked by sexual abuse scandals

and controversy over diversity

and the gender pay gap,

the nominations will be scrutinised

more closely than ever.

Let's take a look at

who might make the cut.

When will the lesson be learned?

How many more dictators

must be wooed,

appeased, good God, given immense

privileges, before we learned?

You cannot reason

with a tiger when your

head is in its mouth.

Muchos gracias.

De nada, Miguel.

My daughter, Angela,

was murdered seven months ago.

It seems to me the police

department is too busy

torturing black folks

to solve actual crime.

What the hell is this?

Dixon, I'm in the middle

of my goddamn Easter dinner.

Good to see an old

brother around here.

Oh, yes, of course it is.

Something wrong?

Here to talk us through the runners

and riders is Helen O'Hara,

Editor at Large at Empire Magazine.

A big day for you. Talk us through

what you are tipping today?

We can

expect to see Three Billboards. A

weird title, but it has done very

well at the Golden Globes. We will

probably see The Shape Of Water

which is a monster movie. It is not

something you see up for Oscars, but

it has done very well. Steven

Spielberg's The Post.

Mer rel

Streep.

All three together.

How many

has she won?

She won three.

She has

been nominated a lot.

18 times. That

could happen. You saw Darkest Hour.

So it is a weird year. It is very

open. There is no absolute

frontrunner yet. I think mostly

Three Billboards, but it could go

any way.

How important is it to have

British talent up there?

It is

pretty standard! We're always there

somewhere especially in the acting

categories and the directing

categories. I think there will be a

few British directors up as well.

We

saw stars making a big statement

wearing black at the Golden Globes

as a show of solidarity and part of

the Me Too movement, do you think we

will see something similar today,

the nominations announcements or at

the Oscars?

Possibly. What they did

with the Golden Globes they kept it

secret until the last minute and we

only heard because a few stylists

leaked it. I do think this is going

to continue to be the topic of

conversation in Hollywood because

they're doing a lot of

soul-searching and rightly so from

all the stories we've learned over

the past few months.

Do you think

what has happened over the past, I

don't know, six months, do you think

it will play into somehow the

nomination announcements today?

I

think the nomination announcements,

it is a fairly standard thing. I

don't think it will be a big issue

there. I think it will be at the

ceremony itself and in the

interviews and the speeches, that's

where it is really, really going to

come to the fore.

I suppose more in

terms as well as representation of

women in those categories, dregging

for example?

Directing would be a

big one because there haven't been

any women nominated.

any women nominated. Ladybird is a

fantastic film in the running. There

are so few women directors. So few

get the chance to direct their

second film and build that up. It is

hard to build the momentum that the

men can. There are men making films

one a year. No woman has the chance

and that's one thing that has to

change.

The Oscars has been

criticised for lack of diversity. We

have had So White Oscars so how do

you think this year will be

different or the same to previous

years?

I think it will be different.

There are great films by non-white

people that are going to be

nominated. I personally feel Get Out

is the main one and I think it will

take the prize. Dount know why I

think that, but I do. There are baby

steps in the direction, but it's

slow because it depends on the films

that are being made.

that are being made.

Denzel

Washington and Mary J Blige?

Washington and Mary J Blige?

Yes

densele Washington, a fantastic

film. The film hasn't had a lot of

buzz so it is hard to say.

How long

will it take before we see the

changes in the film industry, do you

think?

I think we already. I think

Sundance has many for female

directors. I think we are beginning

to see more women given

opportunities like Patty Jenkins. So

I think it is beginning to happen.

It is just so slow and I think what

has happened over the last six

months is accelerating the process

and it is not just people like me

making a noise about it on the

internet it is in the board rooms,

people are saying why don't we have

more women directors? They make

money and it is a foolish thing to

ignore half your audience. In fact

slightly half of people who go to

the cinema are female. We need to

see our stories represented and

people of every colour and people of

every ability, it pays to do this

and they need to realise that.

And

quickly, your prediction for Best

Film?

I think Get Out. It would be

perfect if that won. It is a great

film. So meaningful and yet so

clever at the same time.

To find out

which stars get the Oscar

nomination, you can watch our

special show later today. We will

bring you the announcement live as

it happens from Hollywood from

1.15pm lunch time on the BBC News

Channel.

OK, let's get the latest weather

update from Matt

OK, let's get the latest weather

update from Matt Taylor. Thank you

very much, Tina. It has been a month

defined by wintry weather. Today may

come as a shock. We have snow in

some parts of the country, but some

of that is going set to disappear.

Mild air coming in today. We have

seen rain in most areas today. Some

heavier bursts in Scotland and the

far north of England and the rest of

the day, lighter showers and

sunshine in between. More in the way

of dry or brighter weather. The big

story is the temperatures, double

figures widely, could be 12 or 13

Celsius in Eastern Scotland and

Wales, maybe up to 15 Celsius. We

stay with the mild theme into

tonight. Temperatures will drop away

for a time in Northern Scotland. For

most, into tomorrow morning, it is

another mild start, but tomorrow

windier than today, gales if not

severe gales to come and heavy rain

as well through the morning across

northern and western England and

Wales. Wettest, windiest weather

towards the south and the east

through the afternoon, but blustery

across the north of Scotland.

Tomorrow, sunshine and showers and

it is going to feel cooler once

again. Bye for now.

Hello.

It's 10 o'clock, I'm Tina Dahely.

The Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson

is calling for an extra £100 million

a week for the NHS -

but is the money available to ease

pressure on services?

Mr Johnson is the foreign secretary.

I gave the Health Secretary an extra

£6billion at the recent budget,

and we will look at departmental

allocations at the spending review

when that takes place.

Will have the latest from

Westminster.

Pamela Anderson has told us

why she's spoken out

in the wake of the Hollywood

sexual harassment scandal.

I've just learned too not

put myself in positions

where I could be in any danger,

and I think that's

an ok thing to say.

And I've had some backlash,

but I've also had a lot of support

with women saying thank god

for saying this, or men

saying thank god

for saying this too.

You can see the entire interview

with Pamela Anderson on our website.

Also this morning, has the internet

made life safer for women in the sex

industry?

The fact is, you wake up

in the morning, work from nine till

five, go home and see your family.

It is what I do every day and it is

just the business for me.

We will

look at the findings of a major

study into online sex work.

Good morning.

Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom

with a summary of today's news.

The Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson

is expected to press for more money

for the NHS at a cabinet meeting

that's currently underway

in Downing Street.

He'll make his case for call

for an extra one hundred million

pounds a week for the NHS

when the Health Secretary,

Jeremy Hunt, gives an update on how

the service is coping this winter.

We'll have more on this story

from our assistant political editor

Norman Smith in Downing Street

shortly after this news summary.

England is lagging behind Scotland

and Wales when it comes to

introducing measures to improve

child health, according to a new

report from the Royal College of

paediatrics and Child health. It

also warns that four out of five

young people who are obese will

battle ill health for the rest of

their lives. Westminster insists it

has world leading plans in place,

and in the past year, both teen

pregnancy and child mortality rates

have fallen to all-time lows.

An area of central London remains

cordoned off this morning after a

gas leak led to hundreds of people

being evacuated from a nightclub and

a hotel in the early hours. One of

the capital's busier stations,

Charing Cross, has been shut. Let's

cross to Dan Johnson, who is at the

scene. What is the latest?

Charing

Cross station remains close. It is

used by around 80,000 people every

day, so this has caused huge

disruption for a lot of commuters

coming into London from the

south-east this morning. It is

expected to continue for a few more

hours. There are police, fire

service teams and ambulances as

well, but it seems to be in the

hands of the gas engineers. They

have given different estimates of

how long it will take to resolve the

problem, anything from reopening the

station at 10am, maybe midday, maybe

even into this afternoon, so it

looks like the disruption will

continue for some time. This part of

London, normally very busy, is

completely quiet this morning, and

commuters are facing a lot of

disruption.

Thank you, Dan Johnson.

Nigel Farage has said that the

refusal of current Ukip leader Henry

Bolton to resign could be a

lifeline. 16 party members have quit

over Mr Bolton's decision not to

stand down in the wake of his

girlfriend making racist remarks

about Meghan Markle. Nigel Farage

said in the daily Telegraph that Mr

Bolton could use the occasion to

force Ukip to reform.

Police in Yorkshire looking

for a missing schoolgirl have

found a body in a river.

Ursula Keogh, who's from Halifax,

was last seen on Monday afternoon

dressed in her school uniform.

Police say there are no

suspicious circumstances

surrounding the death,

but are continuing to

establish the cause.

Her family have been told.

Legendary South African jazz

trumpeter Hugh Massa Kaler has died

in hospital in Johannesburg. He was

78 and had been receiving treatment

for prostate cancer. A leading

anti-apartheid campaigner...

That's a summary of

the latest BBC campaigner...

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Time now for sport with Holly.

We begin with the news that Kyle

Edmund has reached the semifinal of

the Australian open, making him only

the sixth British man to do that in

the open area. He beat Grigor

Dimitrov in four sets to reach the

last format in just two hours and 49

minutes. He said afterwards that it

is an amazing feeling and he now

knows what it feels like to be Andy

Murray. The British number one, who

is recovering from a hip operation,

tweeted simply, wow! A win in the

semifinal would put him above Andy

Murray in the rankings. Leon Smith

said that Kyle Edmund's confidence

has been growing.

The coaching team

and himself have been trying to get

a bit more out of him, whether it is

shouting come on or more fist bumps.

He walked out today in front of

15,000 with his head up, walking

tall, and I thought, he is in a good

mood and a good steak for this

match. That confidence is going to

really help in moving forward this

year.

Kyle Edmund will face the

winner of this match next. On court

right now, Rafael Nadal and Marin

Cilic, the world number one and

number four. Nadal took the opening

set, and Cilic has taken the second.

It is shaping up to be an exciting

match.

In the last few minutes, the LTA has

announced that Kyle Edmund will be

included in the British Davis cup

team. No Andy Murray.

To football, and after brilliantly

ending Manchester City's unbeaten

run last weekend, Liverpool followed

that result with defeat against the

Premier league's bottom side.

Swansea City stayed in touch with

their relegation rivals with a

crucial 1-0 win at the liberty

stadium. The first half goal saw

them moved to within three points of

safety, Liverpool missing the chance

to go third.

I didn't use the word

frustration too often because it is

a little different in German, but

tonight I am frustrated and angry

because it was not necessary. It was

not a good game for us,

not a good game for us, because our

tactical discipline, especially

offensively, was not good enough. We

lost a game in the first half.

Ben Stokes won't join up with the

England team for the tour of New

Zealand until after his appearance

at Bristol magistrates Court, which

is on the same day as he was

supposed to be making his

international comeback in a Twenty20

match. He is charged with affray

after an incident outside a Bristol

nightclub in November.

England's knuckleballer --

netballers have lost their match at

London's copper box arena. England

will travel to Johannesburg to face

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The BBC understands

that the Foreign Secretary,

Boris Johnson, is calling

for an extra £100 million

a week for the NHS in England,

at a Cabinet meeting that's

going on now.

A number of senior ministers

are said to be concerned

that the government is not paying

enough attention to

the health service.

But arriving in Brussels for talks

with EU finance ministers,

the Chancellor, Philip Hammond,

suggested the government's current

financial plans wouldn't change.

I have never known it to be as bad

as it is now.

They are marvellous,

these two men. I was in agony.

Were

supposed to be the country in the

world and we're nowhere near that.

Progressively getting worse,

definitely.

We have no rooms in the

A&E department, so these patients

are waiting for a bed.

It feels like

a disaster zone. It is completely

under strain, bursting at the seams.

Our political guru, Norman Smith,

is in Downing Street.

Hello again, Norman. What is behind

this push for money from Boris

Johnson, the Foreign Secretary?

Good

question, because it is certainly a

curious way that Boris Johnson is

going about this, to publicly let it

be known ahead of Cabinet that he is

going to be demanding more cash for

the NHS, and I suspect at Downing

Street they are not best pleased by

his antics, because normally Cabinet

meetings are supposed to be

precisely that - Cabinet meetings

where ministers privately discuss

sensitive issues. Boris Johnson has

flagged up very publicly that he

will stand up and say, you know

what, we really had to give 100

million more to the NHS after

Brexit. Arriving this morning, he

wasn't really saying very much when

he was pressed about this. Just have

a listen.

a listen.

Mr Johnson is the Foreign

Secretary. I gave the Health

Secretary an extra £6 billion at the

recent budget, and we'll look at

departmental allocations again at

the spending review when that takes

place.

Sorry, slight technical

confusion - that was Philip Hammond

giving Boris Johnson a bit of a clip

about the head for making those

comments about the NHS, because

Boris Johnson is not the Health

Secretary. So what is going on? A

few things cinematic one is that

Boris Johnson is seeking to

underscore that hugely contentious

claim he made in the referendum

campaign, the one on the side of the

bus, that there would be £350

million a week more for the NHS. Now

he is saying there will be 100

million more, or he would like there

to be. That is roughly the net

figure. Once you take away from the

350 million all the money we get

back from the EU, you come to about

100 million. Mr Johnson is seeking

to vindicate himself, maybe to force

Mrs May now to go along with his

claim. The second thing going on May

be Mr Johnson same, I have big,

brash, bold ideas at a time when Mrs

May is facing an awful lot of

criticism for not coming forward

with really radical thinking. Some

in the Conservative party, such as

the chair of the health committee,

saying, never mind, at least Mr

Johnson is talking about more money

for the NHS.

Having more allies in

Cabinet calling for more funding for

NHS and social care is very welcome

as far as I am concerned, but I

think we need to look not just that

the human now but at the long term,

and not just the NHS but the whole

picture of the NHS, social care and

prevention, that's to say public

health. See that all is a big system

and how we are going to fund the

serious increase in demand. All the

facilities that we have in the NHS,

the capital projects that need

tackling as well.

Interesting to

find out how other Cabinet ministers

react to Boris Johnson's comments.

Brexit supporters may think he has a

point. The Government has to spell

out a slightly more positive

narrative when it comes to Brexit.

Talking about an extra 100 million

once we leave the EU, that is a good

way to do it. Norman, thank you very

much.

The Shadow Health Secretary,

Jonathan Ashworth,

is at Westminster.

Let's get your response to Boris

Johnson's comments, the Foreign

Secretary calling for more money for

the health service.

It is Boris

Johnson playing games, isn't it?

Hears weaponisation the NHS if you

like for his own internal Tory Party

games. He is calling for an ex £5

billion for the NHS, which is what

we are calling for, but where has he

been for the last two years? We had

a budget last autumn where the

Government failed to give the NHS

the funding it needed, so where was

he a header that? This is all about

Boris Johnson. He is not concerned

about patients waiting on trolleys

in corridors and those elderly

people in the back of ambulances

waiting to be treated. It is his

tedious political gain. If they were

serious about putting money into the

NHS, they would have done it in the

budget last autumn.

Boris Johnson

making these comments, announcing

them before the Cabinet meeting

today, if that puts pressure on the

Health Secretary and Theresa May to

give the health service an extra

hundred million pounds a week, which

is what you were going to call for

as a party on Thursday, what is the

harm in it?

Quite. If it puts

pressure on them, fine, but why did

he not put pressure on before we had

the budget last November

the budget last November was the

last nerve -- last November? The

time to do it was ahead of the

budget in November, and we didn't

hear a peep from him. It makes me

think he's playing games about the

Tory Party leadership. You're right,

people are making the argument to