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Hello and welcome to Wednesday in Parliament, our look at the best | :00:14. | :00:16. | |
of the day in the Commons and the Lords. | :00:17. | :00:18. | |
The theme of the Chancellor as he unveils a new tax on sugary | :00:19. | :00:25. | |
Today I can announce that we will introduce a new sugar levy on the | :00:26. | :00:36. | |
soft drink industry. Among other measures, | :00:37. | :00:38. | |
George Osborne announces a longer school day and a new lifetime ISA | :00:39. | :00:40. | |
for young people. He says Britain is well-placed | :00:41. | :00:42. | |
to handle a cocktail But the Labour leader denounces | :00:43. | :00:45. | |
the Chancellor's performance He has failed on the budget, failed | :00:46. | :00:58. | |
on debt, failed on investment, failed on productivity. | :00:59. | :01:00. | |
The party leaders clash over air pollution. | :01:01. | :01:02. | |
And a former Lib Dem leader makes a scathing attack | :01:03. | :01:05. | |
on the Government's record on taking in migrants. | :01:06. | :01:08. | |
What is it like to be the member of a Government, a British Government, | :01:09. | :01:14. | |
that has to take lessons in leadership, compassion and courage | :01:15. | :01:16. | |
from the German Chancellor? But first, it may not | :01:17. | :01:18. | |
have all the trappings of State Opening Day at Westminster, | :01:19. | :01:20. | |
but Budget Day still has its own And sure enough, outside | :01:21. | :01:23. | |
Number 11 Downing Street, stepping into the March daylight, | :01:24. | :01:26. | |
was the Chancellor. Complete with the famous red box | :01:27. | :01:30. | |
containing all the closely-guarded secrets of the annual Budget speech | :01:31. | :01:35. | |
he's about to give MPs. Once into a suitable vehicle, | :01:36. | :01:39. | |
George Osborne made the short journey along Whitehall, | :01:40. | :01:41. | |
around Parliament Square, and into the precincts | :01:42. | :01:44. | |
of the Palace of Westminster. It was George Osborne's | :01:45. | :01:47. | |
eighth Budget. He told the Commons the UK economy | :01:48. | :01:52. | |
was set to grow faster than that of any other advanced | :01:53. | :01:55. | |
country in the world, with a deficit that was | :01:56. | :01:57. | |
now falling each year. The British economy is stronger | :01:58. | :02:02. | |
because we confronted our country's problems and took the | :02:03. | :02:05. | |
difficult decisions. The British economy is growing | :02:06. | :02:09. | |
because we did not seek short-term fixes, but pursued | :02:10. | :02:15. | |
a long-term economic plan. He turned to spending totals. My | :02:16. | :02:27. | |
spending plan in the last Parliament reduced the share taken by the state | :02:28. | :02:31. | |
from the unsustainable 45% we inherited to 40% today. | :02:32. | :02:35. | |
My spending plans in this Parliament will see it fall to 36.9% | :02:36. | :02:38. | |
In other words, the country will be spending no more than the country | :02:39. | :02:43. | |
So I am asking my right honourable friends the Chief Secretary | :02:44. | :02:48. | |
and the Paymaster General to undertake a further drive | :02:49. | :02:50. | |
The aim is to save a further ?3.5 billion in the year 2019-20. | :02:51. | :02:59. | |
At less than half a percent of Government spending in four | :03:00. | :03:02. | |
years' time, that is more than achievable while maintaining | :03:03. | :03:04. | |
He was confident the UK economy would show a ?10 billion | :03:05. | :03:09. | |
We said our country would not repeat the mistakes of the past | :03:10. | :03:19. | |
Today, we maintain that commitment to long-term stability | :03:20. | :03:23. | |
Decisive action to achieve a ?10 billion surplus. | :03:24. | :03:33. | |
He announced reductions in corporation tax, and then moved | :03:34. | :03:38. | |
From April next year, 600,000 small businesses will pay no | :03:39. | :03:43. | |
That is an annual saving for them of up to nearly ?6,000, forever. | :03:44. | :03:54. | |
A further quarter of a million businesses will see their rates cut. | :03:55. | :03:57. | |
Mr Osborne said the oil price had continued to fall. | :03:58. | :04:00. | |
So we need to act now for the long term. | :04:01. | :04:04. | |
I am today cutting in half the supplementary charge on oil | :04:05. | :04:12. | |
and gas from 20% to 10%, and I am effectively abolishing | :04:13. | :04:15. | |
petroleum revenue tax too, backing this key | :04:16. | :04:17. | |
None of this support would have been remotely affordable if, | :04:18. | :04:28. | |
in just eight days' time, Scotland had broken away | :04:29. | :04:30. | |
from the rest of the UK, as the nationalists wanted. | :04:31. | :04:35. | |
The Infrastructure Commission was urging stronger transport links | :04:36. | :04:37. | |
So we are giving the green light to High Speed 3 between | :04:38. | :04:42. | |
We are finding new money to create a four-lane M62. | :04:43. | :04:46. | |
And we will develop the case for a new tunnelled road | :04:47. | :04:49. | |
My honourable friends for Carlisle, Penrith and Wrexham have told us not | :04:50. | :05:01. | |
to neglect the North Pennines. So we will upgrade the A66 | :05:02. | :05:06. | |
and the A69 too. The Government who are delivering | :05:07. | :05:08. | |
Crossrail 1 will now commission I know this commitment to Crossrail | :05:09. | :05:12. | |
2 will be warmly welcomed by the Leader of the Opposition, | :05:13. | :05:15. | |
the right honourable It could have been designed just | :05:16. | :05:19. | |
for him, because it is good for all those who live in north | :05:20. | :05:23. | |
London and are heading south. I have listened to the case made | :05:24. | :05:26. | |
by Welsh Conservative colleagues and I can announce today that | :05:27. | :05:30. | |
from 2018 we are going to halve the price of the tolls | :05:31. | :05:33. | |
on the Severn crossings. I am today providing extra funding | :05:34. | :05:35. | |
so that by 2020 every primary and secondary school in England | :05:36. | :05:42. | |
will be, or be in the process The Chancellor switched | :05:43. | :05:45. | |
to the content of drinks. We all know one of the | :05:46. | :05:59. | |
biggest contributors to childhood obesity | :06:00. | :06:01. | |
is sugary drinks. A can of cola typically has nine | :06:02. | :06:02. | |
teaspoons of sugar in it. Some popular drinks | :06:03. | :06:06. | |
have as many as 13. I am not prepared to look back | :06:07. | :06:08. | |
at my time here in this Parliament, doing this job, and say | :06:09. | :06:11. | |
to my children's generation, We knew there was a problem | :06:12. | :06:13. | |
with sugary drinks. We knew it caused disease, | :06:14. | :06:17. | |
but we ducked the difficult So today I can announce | :06:18. | :06:19. | |
that we will introduce a new sugar We're going to use the money | :06:20. | :06:23. | |
from this new levy to double the amount of funding we dedicate | :06:24. | :06:29. | |
to sport in every primary school. And for secondary schools, | :06:30. | :06:35. | |
we are going to fund longer school days for those that want to offer | :06:36. | :06:37. | |
their pupils a wider range of activities, | :06:38. | :06:40. | |
including extra sport. We have consulted widely | :06:41. | :06:41. | |
on whether we should make compulsory But it was clear there | :06:42. | :06:45. | |
was no consensus. Indeed, the former | :06:46. | :06:51. | |
Pensions Minister, the Liberal Democrat Steve Webb, | :06:52. | :06:52. | |
said I was trying to abolish Instead, we are going to keep | :06:53. | :06:55. | |
the lump sum and abolish Mr Opperman, you may have been | :06:56. | :06:59. | |
an amateur jockey, but I do not want From April 2017, anyone under | :07:00. | :07:12. | |
the age of 40 will be able to open a Lifetime ISA and save up | :07:13. | :07:23. | |
to ?4,000 each year. For every ?4 you save, | :07:24. | :07:26. | |
the Government will give you ?1. So, putting ?4000, and the | :07:27. | :07:39. | |
Government will give you ?1000 every year until you are 50. You don't | :07:40. | :07:42. | |
have to choose between saving the first time or saving for your | :07:43. | :07:46. | |
retirement. With the new Lifetime Iser, the Government is giving you | :07:47. | :07:47. | |
the money to do both. One that reaches a surplus | :07:48. | :07:49. | |
so the next generation does not have One that reforms our tax system | :07:50. | :07:54. | |
so the next generation One that takes the imaginative steps | :07:55. | :08:00. | |
so the next generation One that takes bold decisions | :08:01. | :08:03. | |
so that our children grow up This is a Budget that gets | :08:04. | :08:07. | |
the investors investing, savers saving, businesses doing | :08:08. | :08:11. | |
business, so that we build for working people a low-tax, | :08:12. | :08:15. | |
enterprise Britain, secure at home, I commend to the House a Budget that | :08:16. | :08:18. | |
puts the next generation first. And with that, George Osborne | :08:19. | :08:31. | |
concluded his speech. In line with parliamentary | :08:32. | :08:37. | |
tradition and custom, the Budget is replied to not | :08:38. | :08:44. | |
by the Shadow Chancellor but by the Leader of | :08:45. | :08:47. | |
the Opposition, Jeremy Corbyn. It was his first time responding | :08:48. | :08:49. | |
to a Budget since becoming Mr Corbyn said the speech | :08:50. | :08:52. | |
the Chancellor had given the nation was, in fact, the culmination | :08:53. | :08:56. | |
of six years of failure. It is a recovery built on sand | :08:57. | :08:58. | |
and a Budget of failure. failed on debt, failed | :08:59. | :09:05. | |
on investment, failed on productivity, failed | :09:06. | :09:08. | |
on the trade deficit, failed on the welfare cap and failed | :09:09. | :09:10. | |
to tackle inequality in this This Budget has unfairness | :09:11. | :09:13. | |
at its very core, paid for by those He could not have made | :09:14. | :09:19. | |
his priorities clearer. While half a million people | :09:20. | :09:29. | |
with disabilities are losing over ?1 billion in Personal | :09:30. | :09:36. | |
Independence Payments, corporation tax is being cut | :09:37. | :09:38. | |
and billions handed out in tax cuts The gulf between what | :09:39. | :09:41. | |
the Conservative Government expects from the wealthiest | :09:42. | :09:47. | |
and what they demand from ordinary British taxpayers | :09:48. | :09:49. | |
could not be greater. The "mates rates" deals for big | :09:50. | :09:58. | |
corporations on tax deals is something they will be | :09:59. | :10:00. | |
for ever remembered for. This is a Chancellor who has | :10:01. | :10:04. | |
produced a Budget for hedge fund managers more than | :10:05. | :10:08. | |
for small businesses. Every library that has been closed, | :10:09. | :10:11. | |
every elderly person left without proper care, | :10:12. | :10:18. | |
every swimming pool with reduced opening hours or closed altogether | :10:19. | :10:20. | |
is a direct result of the Government underfunding our local | :10:21. | :10:23. | |
authorities and councils. Far from presiding over | :10:24. | :10:31. | |
good-quality employment, he is the Chancellor who has | :10:32. | :10:37. | |
presided over underemployment I want to hear the Leader | :10:38. | :10:40. | |
of the Opposition and I expect you to hear the Leader | :10:41. | :10:52. | |
of the Opposition. If you do not want to hear him, | :10:53. | :10:54. | |
I am sure the Tea Room awaits. Perhaps there will be a phone call | :10:55. | :10:58. | |
for Mr Hoare if he keeps shouting. Security comes from knowing your | :10:59. | :11:08. | |
income and knowing where your job is. If you are one of those nearly 1 | :11:09. | :11:14. | |
million people on a zero hours contracts, you don't know what your | :11:15. | :11:17. | |
income is, you don't have that security. | :11:18. | :11:19. | |
Over the past six years, the Chancellor has set targets | :11:20. | :11:22. | |
on deficit, on debt, on productivity, on manufacturing | :11:23. | :11:26. | |
He has failed in all of them, and he is failing this country. | :11:27. | :11:38. | |
There are huge opportunities for this country to build | :11:39. | :11:41. | |
on the talent and efforts of everyone, but the Chancellor | :11:42. | :11:43. | |
is more concerned about protecting vested interests. | :11:44. | :11:45. | |
The price of failure is being borne by some of the most vulnerable | :11:46. | :11:48. | |
Next came the reaction to the Budget of the SNP. | :11:49. | :11:55. | |
The current account will not be back in the black now until 2018/ 19. The | :11:56. | :12:02. | |
targets keep getting pushed back, more broken promises. Borrowing in | :12:03. | :12:09. | |
four years' time will still be higher than they promised it would | :12:10. | :12:13. | |
be this year. That is the scale of the failure of the key economic | :12:14. | :12:20. | |
methods. This is all about political choices. We said at the election, | :12:21. | :12:25. | |
and we hold to it, a very modest half percent real terms increase in | :12:26. | :12:30. | |
expenditure could have released money not just the investment but to | :12:31. | :12:34. | |
make sure those on benefit did not fall any further behind. That would | :12:35. | :12:39. | |
have been a sensible, humane and productive thing to do. The | :12:40. | :12:42. | |
Chancellor and this Government have gone against that one more time. He | :12:43. | :12:47. | |
may be able to sell that to some of his backbenchers, he has been unable | :12:48. | :12:50. | |
to sell it in Scotland and I fear that will continue to be the case | :12:51. | :12:54. | |
for him. And after that came the views of backbenchers. If we are | :12:55. | :12:59. | |
going to have a tax based on sugar, I wonder whether over the longer run | :13:00. | :13:02. | |
we shouldn't consider widening that base. After all, it is not just | :13:03. | :13:07. | |
sugar in drinks that are held to be harmful. Whether we want to find tax | :13:08. | :13:13. | |
bases all the time on health grounds is another matter, but that bridge | :13:14. | :13:17. | |
has now been crossed now the levy has been introduced. Britain is now | :13:18. | :13:22. | |
at a crossroads. The structural deficit will be gone next year, so | :13:23. | :13:25. | |
the Chancellor is choosing to make unnecessary cuts to meet an | :13:26. | :13:30. | |
unnecessary target. It is his choice to remove support from people with | :13:31. | :13:35. | |
disabilities. It is his choice to cut universal credit. It is his | :13:36. | :13:39. | |
choice to stand by as child poverty increases. | :13:40. | :13:40. | |
And the Budget debate continues for another three days. | :13:41. | :13:44. | |
You're watching our round-up of the day in the Commons | :13:45. | :13:46. | |
The Justice Secretary talks of his plans for a new type of prisons. | :13:47. | :13:54. | |
It's normally the main event, but on Budget Day, | :13:55. | :13:57. | |
Prime Minister's Questions becomes the supporting feature. | :13:58. | :14:01. | |
Little point in the party leaders debating the economy, | :14:02. | :14:04. | |
as they've yet to hear the Budget speech. | :14:05. | :14:08. | |
So the Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn focused on a non-financial matter, | :14:09. | :14:10. | |
It's an issue moving up the political agenda, | :14:11. | :14:14. | |
All the candidates for Mayor of London have said they regard | :14:15. | :14:19. | |
improving London's air as a top priority. | :14:20. | :14:21. | |
Mr Corbyn produced some stark figures on the effects | :14:22. | :14:23. | |
The sad truth is that 500,000 will die because of this country's | :14:24. | :14:32. | |
failure to comply with international law on air pollution. | :14:33. | :14:40. | |
Perhaps he could answer another question - | :14:41. | :14:42. | |
pollution cost our economy every year? | :14:43. | :14:45. | |
Of course it costs our economy billions, because people | :14:46. | :14:47. | |
That is why we have the new clean air zones, and emissions from cars | :14:48. | :14:52. | |
The Royal College of physicians estimates and pollution costs our | :14:53. | :15:07. | |
economy ?20 billion per year. The failure to deal with air pollution | :15:08. | :15:12. | |
is killing people. Only a few days ago, London faced a severe smog | :15:13. | :15:17. | |
warning. His friend, the Mayor of London has resided over at legal | :15:18. | :15:26. | |
breach of air quality in the capital bore many times since 2012. | :15:27. | :15:38. | |
It was the Conservative government in the 1950 that passed the clean | :15:39. | :15:45. | |
air act, and I am sure it is this government which will continue that. | :15:46. | :15:51. | |
Things have moved on a bit since then. The governments... The | :15:52. | :16:01. | |
government are now... The government are now threatened with being taken | :16:02. | :16:05. | |
to court for its failure to comply with international law on air | :16:06. | :16:10. | |
pollution. He is proposing to spend tens, if not hundreds of thousands | :16:11. | :16:17. | |
of pounds of public money defending the indefensible. Why not invest | :16:18. | :16:21. | |
that in clean air and better" to for everyone in this country? We are | :16:22. | :16:28. | |
investing money in clean air. We are phasing out the use of coal-fired | :16:29. | :16:32. | |
power stations, far in advance of what other European countries are | :16:33. | :16:36. | |
doing, blazing a trail in terms of more renewable energy. The questions | :16:37. | :16:44. | |
to the Prime Minister are these,... He once boasted he led the greenest | :16:45. | :16:49. | |
government ever. No huskies was safe from his cuddles. Could he explain | :16:50. | :16:57. | |
why the energy and climate change select committee has produced a | :16:58. | :17:01. | |
damning report when it comes to green energy, saying major investors | :17:02. | :17:05. | |
describe his policies as risky as a result of cuts and changes? The | :17:06. | :17:13. | |
climate action network said Britain is the second best country in the | :17:14. | :17:17. | |
world for tackling climate change after Denmark. That is our record. | :17:18. | :17:22. | |
The leader of the SNP switched subjects to the situation in Libya. | :17:23. | :17:25. | |
There is widespread reporting that the UK Government | :17:26. | :17:27. | |
are about to commit to send ground troops to Libya to train | :17:28. | :17:30. | |
Is this true, and why has Parliament not been informed about it? | :17:31. | :17:36. | |
Libya is a people smuggling route, which is bad for Europe and bad | :17:37. | :17:41. | |
for us, and we also have the growth of Daesh in Libya, which is bad | :17:42. | :17:45. | |
for us and bad for the rest of Europe. | :17:46. | :17:47. | |
If we have any plans for troop training or troop deployment | :17:48. | :17:50. | |
in a conventional sense we will of course come to the House | :17:51. | :17:53. | |
The UK spent 13 times more bombing Libya than it did on securing | :17:54. | :18:02. | |
the peace after the overthrow of the hated Gaddafi regime. | :18:03. | :18:07. | |
The critics of UK policy even include President Obama | :18:08. | :18:11. | |
Will the Prime Minister give a commitment to bring to Parliament | :18:12. | :18:18. | |
the issue of any potential Libyan deployment of any British forces | :18:19. | :18:21. | |
for approval before giving the green light for that to happen? | :18:22. | :18:32. | |
Very happy to give that commitment, as we always do. I think I am very | :18:33. | :18:40. | |
clear that it was right to take action to prevent that slaughter | :18:41. | :18:44. | |
that Colonel Gaddafi would have carried out against his people in | :18:45. | :18:48. | |
Benghazi. I believe that was right. Of course Libya is in a state that | :18:49. | :18:52. | |
is very concerning right now and everyone has to take their | :18:53. | :18:53. | |
responsibilities for that. Regional elections in Germany | :18:54. | :18:57. | |
at the weekend resulted in sweeping gains by the anti-immigrant | :18:58. | :18:59. | |
AfD Party. Its success has been seen | :19:00. | :19:01. | |
as a reaction against the policy of the German Chancellor Angela | :19:02. | :19:03. | |
Merkel to accept a million migrants. A German government spokesman has | :19:04. | :19:06. | |
said despite the outcome of the regional polls, | :19:07. | :19:09. | |
the immigration policy In the House of Lords, | :19:10. | :19:11. | |
a former Lib Dem leader sharply contrasted the approach of Germany | :19:12. | :19:18. | |
with that of Britain. My Lords, Germany has provided a | :19:19. | :19:32. | |
refuge for more than 1 million refugees. The German Chancellor has | :19:33. | :19:35. | |
said that despite the recent election results, by the way, and | :19:36. | :19:41. | |
relatively minor in their fact, she will not change course. In contrast, | :19:42. | :19:46. | |
Britain provides refuge to not a single refugee currently seeking to | :19:47. | :19:50. | |
flee from the Syrian battlefield. Many women and children amongst | :19:51. | :19:55. | |
them. Our Prime Minister boasts he will have nothing to do with the | :19:56. | :20:00. | |
European plan that deals with manifestly European and pan-European | :20:01. | :20:03. | |
issue. What is it like to be the member of a government, a British | :20:04. | :20:09. | |
Government, that has to take less than -- lessons in compassion from | :20:10. | :20:15. | |
the German Chancellor? I find it a great honour to be part of this | :20:16. | :20:23. | |
government. But the noble Lord refers to the refugees in Syria. | :20:24. | :20:38. | |
The noble Lord referred to the refugees in Syria. | :20:39. | :20:40. | |
We should also congratulate the Turkish people on all | :20:41. | :20:42. | |
that they have done over this period; they have nearly 3 million | :20:43. | :20:45. | |
I do not think that I need to draw the attention of the House to this, | :20:46. | :20:50. | |
At the Syria conference at the beginning of February, | :20:51. | :20:53. | |
11 billion euros was raised in a day - the largest amount ever raised | :20:54. | :20:57. | |
Don't the elections in Germany and elsewhere in the EU just show the | :20:58. | :21:05. | |
democracy is at last taking over from the failed corporate project of | :21:06. | :21:14. | |
European integration? The quicker that is abandoned, surely be better. | :21:15. | :21:30. | |
Democracy, as Lord Pearson Brannock said,... I would never dream of | :21:31. | :21:35. | |
commenting on what has happened or advising on what has happened in | :21:36. | :21:40. | |
Germany. Should we not take some comfort from the fact that although | :21:41. | :21:45. | |
the vote in Germany was disturbing, 80% of those who voted did not vote | :21:46. | :21:51. | |
for an ultra-right-wing party. It was clear last autumn, unless we | :21:52. | :21:55. | |
stopped the flow of refugees from Libya and Turkey, into what was | :21:56. | :21:59. | |
becoming a worse and worse Mediterranean, that there would be | :22:00. | :22:03. | |
many deaths. We have still not really got together any composite | :22:04. | :22:07. | |
plan to stop this blow of refugees before they leave territorial seas. | :22:08. | :22:14. | |
-- this flow of refugees. Put the noble minister let us know are we | :22:15. | :22:18. | |
coming to some conclusion to stop people going to see? If we don't, | :22:19. | :22:22. | |
they will die, and they are dying every day. The noble Lord draws | :22:23. | :22:32. | |
attention to some of the saddest aspects of this crisis. The whole | :22:33. | :22:37. | |
point of the summit of last week was in fact to break the business model | :22:38. | :22:46. | |
of the people traffickers. And end the link between getting in a boat | :22:47. | :22:48. | |
and getting settlement in Europe. The Justice Secretary Michael Gove | :22:49. | :22:51. | |
has said a new Bill will pave the way for prisons in England | :22:52. | :22:54. | |
and Wales to follow the system of academy schools, with league | :22:55. | :22:57. | |
tables and provision for failing jails to be taken over | :22:58. | :23:00. | |
by more successful jails. At the Commons Justice Committee, | :23:01. | :23:03. | |
Mr Gove admitted there was a problem with overcrowding in some prisons | :23:04. | :23:07. | |
but said it was not extreme. There are steps we hope to introduce | :23:08. | :23:16. | |
to ensure that prisons work better, and I'm sure we can talk more | :23:17. | :23:20. | |
about some of the administrative Ideally, what we want to do | :23:21. | :23:27. | |
is create a freestanding foundation, what we call a reform | :23:28. | :23:32. | |
prison, and in order to allow governors to | :23:33. | :23:34. | |
have a significantly greater degree of freedom than we currently grant | :23:35. | :23:36. | |
them, we will need to create a new legal status, in the same way | :23:37. | :23:39. | |
as the Blair government created We are looking at what the firm | :23:40. | :23:43. | |
legal foundation should be for prisons | :23:44. | :23:49. | |
that operate in an independent way. I'm interested in the prison | :23:50. | :23:54. | |
league table idea. Essentially, could you tell | :23:55. | :23:57. | |
us what it is the one measuring, how you are measuring it | :23:58. | :24:01. | |
and not happen when it doesn't meet We have worked out or are working | :24:02. | :24:04. | |
out three types of measurement. The first is a set of aspirational | :24:05. | :24:15. | |
measurements that will let us know that prisons are doing | :24:16. | :24:18. | |
well in three, four, And they would link to, for example, | :24:19. | :24:20. | |
the quality as well as the number of qualifications that | :24:21. | :24:30. | |
the prisoners are securing. They would link to the | :24:31. | :24:31. | |
success of that prison in basic resettlement goals meaning | :24:32. | :24:36. | |
prisoners find and staying in accommodation and find and stay | :24:37. | :24:39. | |
in jobs, desist from criminality Then we think there | :24:40. | :24:42. | |
should be some dipstick measures so that anyone visiting | :24:43. | :24:53. | |
a prison or observing how it is operating, | :24:54. | :24:55. | |
by a week by week or month by month, can | :24:56. | :24:57. | |
see how it is doing. The broader picture there | :24:58. | :25:04. | |
is about successful you think prison reform will be when we still have | :25:05. | :25:06. | |
such a large prison population and when the result | :25:07. | :25:09. | |
of that is the extreme overcrowding. I wouldn't say we have extreme | :25:10. | :25:11. | |
overcrowding. It is certainly the case | :25:12. | :25:16. | |
that the ideal would be one prisoner in each room | :25:17. | :25:19. | |
and we are very far from that. I wouldn't over fixate on numbers, | :25:20. | :25:34. | |
because I think there is a danger of being paralysed by the thought, | :25:35. | :25:37. | |
we can't make any change I think let's make | :25:38. | :25:40. | |
changes within the Do join me for our | :25:41. | :25:43. | |
next daily round-up. Until then, from me, | :25:44. | :25:47. | |
Keith Macdougall, goodbye. | :25:48. | :25:51. |