29/06/2016 Wednesday in Parliament


29/06/2016

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Good evening, this is Susan Hulme at Westminster ,

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What people in the country `re worried about is the extra

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insecurity to their living standards, jobs, pensions following

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the referendum. He talks about job security, and my two months ago It

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may be my party's interest for him to be sitting there, but it is not

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in the national interest. For heavens sake, go.

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Also on the programme: A julp in reported hate crime incidents

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following the referendum le`ds to calls for urgent action:

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And as the saga of the BHS collapse continues to unfold -

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one MP reckons you couldn't make it up.

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Who's to blame for 22,000 pdnsions being reduced? This was alw`ys going

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to be tough PMQs for both p`rty leaders. David Cameron was facing

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MPs after a tough trip to Brussels where he had to explain the British

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decision to leave the EU to other European leaders. He said it was a

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meeting held in sorrow rathdr than anger. The contest to replace him is

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emerging, candidates are merging he would like to replace him as PM and

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party leader. But that domestic turmoil w`s put -

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briefly - to one side, as David Cameron turned first

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to the attack on Istanbul's main airport, which has left mord

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than forty people dead. I know the whole House when Joe

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condemning the terrible terrorist attacks in Turkey last night. Our

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thoughts and prayers are with those killed, injured and their f`milies.

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There are no reports of UK casualties, but the Foreign Office

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are working with Turkish authorities to establish the full facts.

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His sympathy was echoed by the SNP's Westminster leader, Angus Robertson,

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What people are worried abott is a filling jobs, pensions in the wake

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of the referendum. We have heard of some major companies, like Siemens

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leaving the country. Meetings have the Chancellor had with major

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companies, to try and stabilise the situation? I would say we are not

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strong position to meet these challenges, we have paid down so

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much of the deficit, strong growth and job creation. I do not belittle

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consequences will be diffictlt. There will be some choppy w`ters

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ahead. I don't turn back in the mornings I made during the campaign.

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We need to find the best wax through this. Jamie Koe been said Thursday's

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vote at the rejection of thd status quo. The Prime Minister has two

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months left, will he leave one nation legacy? And will there be the

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scrapping of the bedroom tax, the banning of zero hours contr`cts and

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cancelling cuts to universal credit? Where I would agree with thd

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honourable gentleman, of cotrse we would look to do more to tackle

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poverty, spread wealth and opportunity, but to try and pretend

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last Thursday's vote was as a result of the state of the British economy

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is complete nonsense. The British economy is stronger than it was six

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years ago. We have to reflect on our role in the referendum camp`ign I

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know the honourable gentlem`n says he put his back into it, all I would

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say, I would hate to see hil when he's not trying. Mr Speaker,

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government figures released yesterday show the number of

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children living in poverty has jumped by 200,001 year. A total

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disgraceful total, 3.9 millhon children in this country living in

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poverty. Does he not think, at the very least, he should apologise to

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them, and the parents being failed by his government, and do something

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about it, so we reduce the levels of child poverty in this country? If he

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is looking for excuses why the sign he and I were on on recommend them,

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you should look somewhere else. The honourable gentleman talks `bout job

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insecurity and my two months ago, it may be for my party's interdst for

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him to sit there, but not in the country's interest, I would say for

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heavens sake, go. A strong lajority voted for Scotland to remain in the

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European Union. First Minister Nicola Sturgeon is in Brussdls

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meeting with the president of the pin commission, the president of the

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European Parliament. Yesterday there was a standing ovation when the case

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was made to protect Scotland's place in Europe. What will the UK

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Government do to protect Scotland's place in Europe? We need to

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negotiate the best possible deal for the United Kingdom. The closest

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possible relationship. That will also be the best possible ddal for

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Scotland, that is what needs to be done. When Ukip's MPs stood up, he

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received a frosty reception. I thank the Prime Minister for giving us

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last week's great exercise hn democracy. Order. The honourable

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gentleman will be heard. We only Leeds side should recognise that

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although we won, it was a n`rrow mandate plenty of decent, p`triotic

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people voting for Remain. Does the Prime Minister agree that they

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besides need to come togethdr to achieve a new post EU national

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consensus, whereby we have close links with friends and allids in

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Europe and beyond, whilst rdclaiming 17? Let me thank the honour`ble

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gentleman for making the pohnt, there were people with a dedp sense

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of packages on both sides of the argument. I also agree with him

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time for people and our country together together. We now h`ve to

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work hard, on what the alternatives are. These were discussed and

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debated in the referendum c`mpaign, that they were hypothetical, there

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are real alternatives. My constituency has received a list of

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essential amount of funding. The League campaign has promised that

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funding will continue even hf we leave. That the Prime Minister

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believe that even if we leave is a penny -- even if we lose a penny of

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that will be a crime. Difficult to give guarantees, you don't know what

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will happen to the economy, and it does face challenges. It will be a

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matter for my successor as we leave the EU, to make good on what they

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said at the time. When PMQs was over, David Cameron stayed on to

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talk about Tuesday's Europe`n Council meeting. Many backbdnch MPs

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expressed fears about the undeclared political direction facing Britain

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as it negotiates the exit from the EU. One MP said a second referendum

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should be held as second thoughts were always superior to first

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thoughts. The tone of the mdeting was one of sadness and regrdt. There

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was agreement that the decision of the British people should bd

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respected. We had positive discussions about the relathonship

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we want to see between Brit`in and our European partners, and the next

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steps leading the EU, including decisions that need to be worked

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very and the timing for triggering article 50. Last week's votd to

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leave the EU means the country is in an unstable position. The ndxt steps

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should be the most important, and should be taken with care. For the

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Prime Minister explain to the millions of people who voted to

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leave, while in the next few months, while awaiting a new Prime Linister,

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this country should start t`lking informally with Canada, Australia,

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Malaysia, other countries desperately keen to sign up to trade

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agreements? Why cannot we do these things? Does the Prime Minister

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agree with the Foreign Affahrs Committee that the construction of

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Article 50 means it is perfdctly likely that there will be no

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agreement on the other side of the negotiations requiring GMD from our

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partners and the European P`rliament at the end of the two years. That

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means we will still have access to the single market? I did look at the

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foreign affairs select commhttee report, while I am not fullx

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liberated and able to say btt I think, I thought the conclusions

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were I was thinking of a place in London,

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close to Dagenham, but I've not go there. I am bored with the lame duck

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attitude the Prime Minister is giving us. Take control, man. There

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are lots of things we could do, passing emergency legislation to

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make clear that every EU citizen living in this country is entitled

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to live and stayed there into the future. That would stop somd of the

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horrible campaigning alreadx happening. We know many millions of

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people in this country felt they were deceived by the exaggerations

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and the lies in the campaigns of both parties. They now feel

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themselves cheated by that result, millions of people have protested.

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Isn't it right we look again at the possibility of a second refdrendum

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in the 17th that all second thoughts are always superior to first

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thoughts. I don't think Ethdrley appreciates, certainly the Secretary

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of State, when we negotiated the Good Friday agreement, membdrship of

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the EU was taken as given, hn the fabric. The core of the agrdement is

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the principle of consent. The people of Northern Ireland find thdy are

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being dragged out of the European Union against their consent.

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Who is to blame for the fall of BHS? It went into administration with a

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hole in its pension pot. Sir Philip Green sold it to Retail

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Acquisitions. The working pdnsion business committee has launched a

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joint enquiry and heard frol key players. They recall the finance

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director of Sir Philip's Ac`dia Group and asked who was responsible?

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Who is to blame for the tob`cco at BHS? 11,000 people losing their

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jobs, 22,500 pensions seeing their totals reduced. Who is to blame In

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my view a number of people. It is a very sad thing that has happened. We

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can only apologise to the elployees, and want to sort out the pension. As

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you have heard this story unfolds over the past number of weeks, there

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are a number of people. If we had the benefit of hindsight, and to do

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things differently, we would. Surely the buck stops Sir Philip's and Lady

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Green's desk. Throughout all our evidence, they are the people who

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have determined what goes on. Although Sir Philip Kamen pointed

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everybody, the buck stops whth him, doesn't it? At the end of the day,

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Mr Field, we gave this business are enough dowry, and not unenctmbered

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assets, it had a business plan. We have heard from credible individuals

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like Michael Hitchcock, Darren top, if things were done quickly enough,

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we would not be in today. I honestly believe that. There are people who

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run businesses, big businesses around the country who will be

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holding their head in their hands. You are here to stand up for the

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thing they put their lives hnto the free market, business, growhng,

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innovating, giving people incomes. Securing people when they ldave

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companies. You are so straight question. Where does the buck stop?

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There is a clear answer. Yot are not prepared to give it? There `re many

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people involved. You have sden that over weeks, in terms of Grant

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Thornton, giving advice, thdre are a number of people.

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MPs from all parties have condemned a sharp increase in hate crhmes

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following last week's vote to leave the European Union.

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But at Question Time, David Cameron said a new pl`n

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would be published soon and promised action and extra cash.

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According to the police, reports of hate crime

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incidents have risen by 57%, something the Prime Minister utterly

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condemned after it was raisdd by the Labour leader.

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Can I ask the Prime Minister what monitoring systems

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he and the Home Secretary h`ve put in place, what reports he h`s

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received from the police and what extra resources

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are going to communities th`t have been targeted in these

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violent racist attacks that are taking place?

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Firstly I agree, these attacks are appalling and they need to stop

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and it is right that everyone in this House and everyone

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on all sides of the referendum debate utterly condemns thel.

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We monitor these attacks and the Home Secretary gets reports

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but we will be publishing a new action plan on tackling hate

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We want new steps for reporting hate crime, new CPS guidance

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to prosecutors on racially aggravated crime, a new fund

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for protective security measures at vulnerable institutions

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and additional funding to community organisations

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Whatever we can do, we will do to drive them out of our cotntry.

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Later in response to a government statement, there was condemnation

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of some of the attacks and LPs pointed to evidence that incidents

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of hate crime have been on the rise for some time.

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The incidents and behaviour we have seen in recent days including

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offensive graffiti and abusd hurled at people because they are lembers

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of ethnic minorities all because of their nation`lity

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We must stand together against such hate crime and ensure

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In Huntingdon, cards distributed outside homes and primary schools,

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all saying no more Polish vdrmin, in Hammersmith a Polish

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community centre daubed with racist graffiti.

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On Monday, a report of a Muslim schoolgirl cornered by a group

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of people who told her, get out, we voted Leave.

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More reports of incidents in Leicester today that my

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honourable friend has mentioned and yesterday, in Manchester,

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footage of a US Army veteran and university lecturer being told

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to go back to Africa by three youths on a tram.

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What is happening, Mr Speakdr, to the Britain we have known?

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This is not taking our country back, this is turning Britain into a place

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Hate crime by its very nature is a rejection of the British values

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Depictions of swarms or wavds of immigrants are dangerous

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The SNP rejects the tone and rhetoric of the debate

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on immigration during the ldad up to the referendum,

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instead we as a party believe immigration is essential

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to the strength of our nation and to our cultural fabric.

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I never believed that I would ever receive a telephone call

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in Brentwood and Ongar of someone frightened,

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of a Polish person being frhghtened, of a Frenchman being

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frightened, of their kids being bullied at school.

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Unless we take action, now, this will eat us alive from inside.

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The government alone cannot do this, she needs to work with local

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authorities, civic groups and voluntary organisations

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to ensure that we build the broadest possible coalition

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If those who make crass rem`rks during the referendum were not aware

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that they could be flicking the switch of those

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who are dangerous and troubled, then they are more ignorant

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This is not just about the far right, there is a far left,

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this is not just about racism, there is anti-Semitism and ` myriad

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of threats and dangers to the stability of what we believe

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This was one of the MPs whose neighbouring constituency

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was represented by Labour's Jo Cox who was shot and stabbed to death.

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Yesterday people in my constituency received a leaflet from the BNP

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saying Jo Cox took misguided action by helping Muslims in the country

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who may now go on to join Isis, alongside some

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I am sure the whole House is shocked, that is utterly,

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In the Lords, peers remain concerned about what the vote might mdan

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Does my noble friend recall that the Prime Minister madd it

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clear that EU citizens who are living in this country

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with employment in this country would be able to remain so?

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And could he recognise that people are sick and fed up of this

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continuing fear-mongering c`mpaign continuing after we have made

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a clear decision and it is hmportant that EU nationals who are rdsident

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in this country are reassured of that position.

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Those EU nationals who are hn the country at the present time can

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be reassured that there will be no change as our membership

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of the EU continues over the next number of years.

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Nevertheless, nevertheless, as the Prime Minister has

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made his position now clear, it is for the next Prime Minister

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in government to decide when to trigger Article 50

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and to carry on the relative negotiations.

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My Lords, does the government accept that there about 3 million DU

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nationals living at present in the United Kingdom,

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but there are also 1.2 millhon British people living

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When present tensions have calmed down, why would either Brussels

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or London want to do anything to upset this mutually

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And does the government agree my Lords however,

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that if the EU were to get difficult with our nationals living there

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it is we who hold the stronger hand if we retaliate?

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So many more of them are living here.

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Lord King said the mutual bdnefits were obvious and that would be

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The UK will hold a two-minute silence on Friday to honour those

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who fought in the battle of the Somme.

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The 1st of July marks 100 ydars since the bloodiest day

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The aims of the battle were to relieve the French @rmy

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fighting at Verdun and to wdaken the German Army.

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The Allies bombarded German trenches for seven days and then

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at dawn on July the 1st, sent 100,000 men over the top

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The Germans weathered the artillery fire in deep trenches

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As the British soldiers adv`nced they were mowed down

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In total over 19,000 British soldiers lost their lives.

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At the start of PMQ's, David Cameron mentioned

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Mr Speaker, this week marks the centenary of the battle

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of the Somme and there will be a national two-minute

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I will be attending a memorhal service near the battlefield

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and it is right that the whole country pauses to member

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the sacrifices of all those who fought and lost their

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Later, MPs held a debate to mark the anniversary.

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The sound of British artilldry guns could be heard across the Channel

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Mines detonated beneath the German trenches shook the ground.

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Within moments, cries of the wounded were echoing

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Every yard of the 60 mile front there were two British casu`lties

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and by the end of the battld, more than 1 million

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The terrible price paid by those soldiers reverberated across Europe

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Now many of those who lost their lives on the Somme

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were volunteers, men who put themselves forward after seding

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Lord Kitchener's famous recruiting poster.

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Those were minors, steelworkers glass workers, clerks,

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stonemasons and clerics, many of them friends and nehghbours.

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They joined up together, they trained together, they went

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to war together and ultimatdly many of them died together.

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This is a story true not just of the Barnsley Pals but of the many

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volunteer battalions up and down our country.

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Steinbrecher was right, the Somme has become a byword

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for tragedy, pointlessness, waste, but we should never lose

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sight of the achievements of our predecessors,

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be proud of them, be proud of Britain's first Citizen @rmy

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The prioe may have turned ott to be impossibly high,

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but they were doing the right thing in a just cause.

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The battle of the Somme remembered in the Commons.

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The SNP is demanding to be lade Parliament's official

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It's spokesperson Pete Wish`rt said that Labour was clearly in no

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shape to assume power if the government were to rdsign.

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He said the party was unabld to meet key responsibilities

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and obligations as outlined in the Parliamentary rule book.

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The current official opposition has lost two thirds

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of its Shadow Cabinet, its leader in what remains

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of the front bench no longer commands the support

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of the overwhelming majoritx of its backbench, it can now no

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longer provide shadows for lany Departments of State,

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it is clearly in no shape to assume power and unable to meet thdse key

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responsiblities and obligathons as outlined in Erskine May.

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Given these quite obvious f`ilings, what steps would now need to be

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taken to have this official opposition replaced with ond that

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can meet the responsibilitids that are set out clearly in Erskhne May?

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However, the Speaker said that while he had given

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thought to the issue, Labour remained the official

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Meanwhile all eyes turned to the Conservative leadership

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During Prime Minister's Questions, one former minister signalldd

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that he would not be backing former London Mayor Boris Johnson.

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Would my right honourable friend educate the House from his

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experience as Prime Minister, on how in terms of the country's

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reputation and success, he would compare the demonstrative

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competence and dignity of Angela Merkel with the theatrical

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and comical antics of Silvio Borisconi?

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Fortunately, for my honourable friend, neither of the people

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he is talking about are candidates and the selection is in an dlection

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I was given lots of advice on becoming Prime Minister `nd one

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of them was not to go to a party with Silvio Berlusconi

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and that is one piece of advice I took and stuck to.

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Which sound advice brings us to the end of this

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Do join me at the same time tomorrow when MPs ask questions

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about transport and debate the laws on homicide while peers ask

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questions about obesity and changes to constituency boundaries.

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For now, from me, Alicia McCarthy, goodbye.

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