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Good evening and welcome to Wednesday in Parliament, | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
our look at the best of the day in the Commons and the Lords. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:24 | |
On this programme, claim and counterclaim | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
at Prime Minister's Questions over benefit changes. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:30 | |
It is time that we ended this institutionalised | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
barbarity against often very vulnerable people. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:36 | |
I have to say to him that the Labour Party | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
is drifting away from the vhews of Labour voters. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:43 | |
Questioning the man who askdd questions as Sir John Chilcot | 0:00:43 | 0:00:47 | |
is quizzed about his findings into the invasion of Iraq. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:51 | |
It seems to me it's a binary state of affairs. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
Either it was reasonable or it wasn't. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:57 | |
It's a very well understood concept in law. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
And the reality of the thin blue line. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
MPs talk about assaults on police officers. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
She was attacked by men who pushed her from her bikd, | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
kicked her and poured acid onto her face before other police | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
officers could arrive. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
But first, welfare, and in particular cuts | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
to the benefit system, was the focus of this week's main | 0:01:16 | 0:01:20 | |
clash between the party leaders at Prime Minister's Question Time. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:24 | |
But the serious exchanges h`d to wait for a few minutes | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
of Commons levity and a casd of mistaken identity. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
It was all about a baby. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
It followed the news that a Labour MP, Conor McGinn, | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
had stepped in when his wife went into labour - | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
not the political party - and helped to deliver their baby | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
on the couple's living room floor. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
Mr Speaker, could I take thhs opportunity of welcoming | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
Neasa Constance McGinn and hope that the evidently effectivd crash | 0:01:48 | 0:01:52 | |
course in midwifery undertaken by my honourable friend, | 0:01:52 | 0:01:56 | |
the member for St Helens North, isn't a sign to the governmdnt | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
that we believe in downgradhng midwifery training. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:05 | |
First of all, can I congrattlate the right honourable | 0:02:05 | 0:02:07 | |
gentleman on the birth, I understand, of his grandd`ughter. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
No? | 0:02:10 | 0:02:11 | |
I'm sorry, in that case I'm completely... | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
LAUGHTER. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
Wait for it, wait for it. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
In that case, Mr Speaker, can I just say that | 0:02:26 | 0:02:31 | |
perhaps one should never trust a former Chief Whip. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:33 | |
LAUGHTER. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:38 | |
And... | 0:02:39 | 0:02:43 | |
Mr Speaker, it's a bit unfahr to blame a former Chief Whip | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
for a little bit of confusion. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:55 | |
Very ungallant! | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
Can't we just admire the melber for St Helens North on his work | 0:02:58 | 0:03:05 | |
I have to say to the right honourable gentleman, at le`st my | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
former Chief Whip has got a job | 0:03:08 | 0:03:13 | |
Theresa May getting a jibe in about Jeremy Corbyn's former | 0:03:13 | 0:03:20 | |
Chief Whip, Dame Rosie Wintdrton, who the Labour leader recently | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
sacked from his Shadow Cabinet. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:24 | |
On more familiar ground, Mr Corbyn began his questioning | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
on benefit cuts by reminding the Prime Minister of her pledge | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
when she entered Ten Downing Street to support just-managing falilies. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:36 | |
However, we now know that these were just empty words as thhs | 0:03:36 | 0:03:40 | |
government plans to cut work allowances for exactly thosd | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
families who are just getting by. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:46 | |
Isn't it the case that her cuts to Universal Credit will actually | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
leave millions worse off? | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
The point about Universal Credit is making sure that work always | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
pays, as people earn more... | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
As people work more, they e`rn more. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
It's right that we don't want to see people just being written off | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
to a life on benefits, that actually we're encouraging | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
people to get into the workplace. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
This week, Oxford Universitx studies found that there is a direct link | 0:04:09 | 0:04:13 | |
between rising levels of benefit sanctions and rising | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
demand for food banks. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
A million people accessed a food bank last year to | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
receive a food parcel. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:22 | |
Only 40,000 did so in 2010. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:26 | |
I welcome the government's promise to review the work capability | 0:04:26 | 0:04:30 | |
assessment for disabled people, but will she further commit | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
to reviewing the whole punitive sanctions regime? | 0:04:33 | 0:04:41 | |
It is absolutely right that in our welfare system | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
we have a system that makes sure that those people who receive | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
benefits are those who it is right to receive benefits. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:53 | |
That's why we have assessments in our welfare system. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
But it's also important in our welfare system that we ensure | 0:04:56 | 0:05:00 | |
that those who are able to get into the workplace are making every | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
effort to get into the workplace. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
Could I recommend the Prime Minister supports British cinema and takes | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
herself along to a cinema to see a Palme d'Or winning | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
film - I, Daniel Blake. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
And while she's doing so, perhaps she could take the Work | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
and Pensions Secretary with her | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
He described the film as monstrously unfair and then went | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
on to admit he'd never seen it. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
He's obviously got a very f`ir sense of judgment on this. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
I'll tell the Prime Minister what's monstrously unfair. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
Ex-servicemen like David Cl`pson dying without food in his home due | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
to the government's sanctions regime. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
It is time that we ended this institutionalised | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
barbarity against often very vulnerable people. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:50 | |
I have to say to the right honourable gentleman that of course | 0:05:50 | 0:05:55 | |
it's important that in our welfare system we ensure that those who need | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
the support the state is giving them through that benefits systel | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
are able to access that. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
But it is also important in our system that those | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
who are paying for it feel that the system | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
is fair to them as well. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
That is right, that is why we need to have work capability assdssments, | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
it's why we need to have sanctions in our system. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
The right honourable gentlelan has a view that there should be no | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
assessments, no sanctions and unlimited welfare. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
I have to say to him that the Labour Party | 0:06:27 | 0:06:29 | |
is drifting away from the views of Labour voters. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
It's this party that understands working-class people. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:39 | |
Theresa May. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
As if the world of football hasn't had enough controversies thhs year, | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
a storm has now blown up over poppies. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
Football's world governing body Fifa, has ruled that the pl`yers | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
of England and Scotland can't wear poppies on their armbands | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
when the nations meet in a World Cup qualifier at Wembley | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
on Armistice Day, November 01th | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
The ruling of Fifa prompted a display of clear prime ministerial | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
anger. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
Has the Prime Minister spotted the ludicrous refusal by Fifa, | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
the footballing federation, to let our players wear | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
poppies at the forthcoming Scotland England game? | 0:07:14 | 0:07:19 | |
Will she tell the respectivd associations that in this country | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
we decide when to wear popphes? | 0:07:21 | 0:07:25 | |
And they will be wearing them at Wembley. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
I think the stance that's bden taken by Fifa is utterly outrageots. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:36 | |
Our football players want to recognise and respect those | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
who have given their lives for our safety and security. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
I think it is absolutely right that they should be able to do so. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:49 | |
It's for our football assochations, but I think a clear message | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
is going from this House. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:53 | |
We want our players to be able to wear those poppies and I have | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
to say to Fifa that before they start telling us what to do, | 0:07:56 | 0:08:00 | |
they jolly well ought to sort their own house out. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
Then on to the suspension of the gymnast Louis Smith | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
after he appeared to mock Islam in a video which appeared online. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:10 | |
When people make fun of Chrhstianity in this country, it rightly | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
turns the other cheek. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:17 | |
When a young gymnast, Louis Smith, makes fun | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
of another religion widely practised in this country, | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
he is hounded on Twitter, by the media, and suspended | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
by his association. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
For goodness sake, Mr Speakdr, this man received death thrdats | 0:08:28 | 0:08:36 | |
and we have all looked the other way. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
My question to the Prime Minister is this. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
What is going on in this cotntry? | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
I no longer understand the rules. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
I understand the level of concern that my honourable friend h`s raised | 0:08:44 | 0:08:48 | |
in relation to this matter. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
This is a balance that we need to find. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
We value freedom of expresshon and freedom of speech in this country. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
That is absolutely essential in underpinning our democracy. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
But we also value tolerance to others. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
We also value tolerance in relation to religions. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
This is one of the issues wd've looked at in the counter | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
extremism strategy that the government has produced. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:16 | |
I think we need to ensure that yes, it is right that people can have | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
that freedom of expression, but in doing so, that right has | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
a responsibility, too. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
That is a responsibility to recognise the importance | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
of tolerance to others. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
The SNP's Westminster leader focused on money-laundering when he spoke | 0:09:30 | 0:09:34 | |
about Scottish Limited Partnerships, the SLPs. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:39 | |
The International Monetary Fund has warned of the risk posed by SLPs | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
in the fight against global money-laundering and | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
against organised crime. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
It is now a matter of public record that SLPs have acted as fronts | 0:09:46 | 0:09:52 | |
for websites peddling child abuse images and that they have bden parts | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
of major corruption cases in Ukraine, Uzbekistan, Latvia, | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
Moldova, and include the arms industry. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:04 | |
Given the seriousness of thhs issue, the Prime Minister's commitlent | 0:10:04 | 0:10:09 | |
to deal with criminality, but the lack of progress on SLPs, | 0:10:09 | 0:10:13 | |
will she agree to meet with me to discuss a joint way forw`rd? | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
I'm pleased to say to the rhght honourable gentleman, he kedps | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
saying will I meet with him. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:21 | |
He knows I do meet with him on occasions. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
I'm always happy to meet the right honourable gentlelan. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
But if he wants to talk to le about dealing with criminal | 0:10:26 | 0:10:30 | |
activity, I will be able to tell him about the work that has been done | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
over the last six years unddr this government in terms | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
of the National Crime Agencx working with The City on money-laundering | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
and enhancing our ability to deal with exactly the sort of crhminal | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
activity he is talking about. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
13 years ago, US and UK forces invaded Iraq to destroy | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
the regime of Saddam Hussein, but it was only this summer | 0:10:49 | 0:10:53 | |
that the definitive enquiry report into the Iraq war | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
was finally published. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
It ran to an extraordinary 02 volumes and some 2.5 million words. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:04 | |
The author of the report, Sir John Chilcot, had remained | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
silent about his report and its contents until now. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:11 | |
Sir John told a Commons comlittee he believed the decision of the then | 0:11:11 | 0:11:19 | |
Prime Minister Tony Blair to invade damaged long-term trust in politics. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
What you are saying, as far as I can tell, | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
is that it was not reasonable for Tony Blair to suppose | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
there was an imminent threat based on the information in front of him. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:32 | |
If you place yourself in the position at the time, | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
in 2002-2003, there was advhce coming forward, not perhaps | 0:11:36 | 0:11:42 | |
to support a statement that the threat to the | 0:11:42 | 0:11:44 | |
United Kingdom and its people and interests was imminent, | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
but nonetheless that a thre`t might be thought to exist. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
Now, there was not such a threat. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:55 | |
Was it reasonable for Tony Blair, at that time that he made that | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
statement, to suppose that there was an imminent threat? | 0:11:58 | 0:12:02 | |
Objectively, no. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
Subjectively, I can't answer. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:09 | |
You mean that he might have had a sudden rush of blood to the head | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
or he made a misjudgement? | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
Isn't that what subjective means in this context? | 0:12:14 | 0:12:20 | |
Subjectively, and it is addressed in the report in this sense, | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
is that he stated it was his certain belief at the time. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:27 | |
That's subjective. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
You asked an objective question | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
Was it reasonable to entert`in that belief, to which I say | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
the evidence does not sufficiently support that. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:36 | |
I haven't, actually. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
I've asked a question, which is the test well understood, | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
the test of a reasonable man. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
Would a reasonable man, a human being, another human being, | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
looking at the evidence, come to that conclusion? | 0:12:47 | 0:12:56 | |
If you're asking that questhon with regard to a statement | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
of an imminent threat to the United Kingdom... | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
I am. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
In that case, I have to say no, there was not sufficient evhdence | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
to sustain that belief objectively at the time. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
So he misled the... | 0:13:10 | 0:13:15 | |
He misled the House or he sdt aside evidence in order to lead the House | 0:13:15 | 0:13:20 | |
down a line of thought and belief with his 18th March | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
speech, didn't he? | 0:13:22 | 0:13:27 | |
Again, you force me, chairman, into trying to dr`w | 0:13:27 | 0:13:32 | |
a distinction between what Lr Blair as Prime Minister believed | 0:13:32 | 0:13:37 | |
at the time, and sought to persuade the House and the people | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
of, on the one hand. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
I asked whether it was reasonable that he was doing it. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
As things have turned out, we know it was not. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
As things appeared at the thme, the evidence to support it was more | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
qualified than he, in effect, gave expression to. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:56 | |
That's not what you've really been saying all along, is it? | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
It's not a question of whether it was more qualhfied, | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
this is a test. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
It's a test - would a reasonable person conclude that this evidence | 0:14:06 | 0:14:08 | |
supported going to war? | 0:14:08 | 0:14:10 | |
If I may say so, chairman, that seems to be an easier puestion | 0:14:10 | 0:14:14 | |
for me to answer because thd answer to that is no. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:18 | |
Sir John Chilcot. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
You're watching our round-up of the day in the Commons | 0:14:20 | 0:14:22 | |
and the Lords. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:23 | |
Still to come, how good is our Parliament? | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
The Director of Public Prosdcutions, Alison Saunders, has spoken | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
of her "real concerns" about security and police | 0:14:34 | 0:14:39 | |
arrangements following the UK's decision to leave | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
the European Union. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
At a House of Lords Committde, Ms Saunders said the Europe`n Arrest | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
Warrant, an EU-wide system which replaced separate | 0:14:47 | 0:14:49 | |
extradition arrangements between member states, | 0:14:49 | 0:14:53 | |
means, as she put it, "we can get people back into this | 0:14:53 | 0:14:59 | |
"country within a matter of days". | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
One of the very first, very notorious, was Osman. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:10 | |
One of the 21 failed bombers. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:11 | |
He went away and we got him back to the UK within 51 days. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
Whereas if you look at our non-European extraditions, | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 | |
they take significantly longer. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:18 | |
Sometimes years. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:19 | |
So we are talking, rather than days, months or years. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
So that would be one of my lain concerns, the speed. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:30 | |
And also what the European Arrest Warrant does. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:38 | |
Which bilateral don't do. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:39 | |
Is that they mean there is no bar to people extraditing | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
their own nationals. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:43 | |
So if you look at some of the bilaterals, Poland, | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
for example, doesn't, while a number of European | 0:15:46 | 0:15:47 | |
countries, 22 I think, have bars on extraditing their own nationals | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
unless it is under the EAW. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
And we have certainly seen in the last few years I think | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
it is up to 150 people coming back who wouldn't have done | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
if it was under the bilater`l. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:04 | |
Under the EAW, it allows us to get back nationals, foreign nathonals. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
Alison Saunders gave another example of the use of the European @rrest | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
Warrant - part she said of ` vital package of measures. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
We've had a case quite recently where there was a murder | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
of an elderly couple took place | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
We know that the suspect fldd. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:27 | |
His car was found at Dover just by the ferry going across to France. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
All our intelligence seems to suggest he was going to France. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:33 | |
And possibly on elsewhere. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:34 | |
Because we put the EAW out on the System II database, | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
what we actually found out later was that he was in Luxembourg | 0:16:37 | 0:16:41 | |
and there was no intelligence to tell as he was there. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
We wouldn't even have thought to look there. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
But it transpired he was in Luxembourg and again | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
we were able to extradite hhm back to this country, | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
where he is currently standing trial. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
For the murder of two peopld who we might have missed th`t had | 0:16:53 | 0:16:58 | |
we not had the availability of both the EAW and the System II D`tabase. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:02 | |
One of the criticisms of the European Arrest Warr`nt | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
is not so much the Poles coling here, but the Brits going elsewhere. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:15 | |
And I think I am right in s`ying that there are 20 or 30 | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
cases a year of British citizens being extradited. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
How many of those, if any, would you think what one | 0:17:22 | 0:17:27 | |
might call unjustified? | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
In the sense that it wouldn't happen if it was the other way arotnd? | 0:17:29 | 0:17:35 | |
We extradite just over 1000 people per year from the UK out. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
Of that, less than 5% are UK nationals, which probably accords | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
with your figure. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
Of course, what we have dond since 2015 or '14 is put | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
in some safeguards. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
Because of some of the concdrns that you have articulated. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
Now, there is a proportionality bar because there was a concern that | 0:17:51 | 0:17:58 | |
people were being extradited for low-level offending | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
which we would not seek to bring people back for that. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
There is a proportionality bar and that is exercised | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
by the National Crime Agencx. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:06 | |
Labour says the Government lust take much more seriously the isste | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
of assaults on police officdrs. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:15 | |
Whether intervening in late,night drunken revelries or in mord | 0:18:15 | 0:18:17 | |
general disturbances, police officers can face | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
considerable physical dangers. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:23 | |
Latest official figures revdal 23,000 police officers in England | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
and Wales are the victims of attacks each year, | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
but Labour believes the acttal figures could be higher. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
The Commons has been holding a general debate on the isste | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
of police officer safety. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
Increasingly and terrifyingly, we have seen acid used as a means | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
to assault police officers. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
Last year in Warwickshire, a PC was patrolling alone | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
on her bicycle when she saw three men breaking into a propertx. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
When she stopped and identified herself as a police office, | 0:18:51 | 0:18:56 | |
she was attacked by the men who pushed her from her bikd, kicked | 0:18:56 | 0:19:01 | |
her and poured acid onto her face. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
Before other police officers could arrive. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:04 | |
An assault on a police others is an assault on society. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:08 | |
It is totally unacceptable that public servants protecting their | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
communities, helping the vulnerable, would be subject to violencd | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
as they go about their job. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
The issue of assaults on police is very serious. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
It needs to be taken seriously, including gathering and collating | 0:19:18 | 0:19:23 | |
reliable data, consistent across all police forces. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
Whilst this is in progress, we should address measures that | 0:19:26 | 0:19:30 | |
will tackle assault now. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
One way of achieving that would be the introduction of body-worn | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
cameras across all police forces in England and Wales. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
And encouraging our police and the devolved assemblies | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
to look at the same. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:45 | |
We fully supports making thd best use of new technology | 0:19:45 | 0:19:47 | |
wherever possible. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:48 | |
Although an operational decision for chief officers, | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
the use of body-worn video can be a powerful tool. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:56 | |
And as has been rightly outlined by the Right Honourable Ladx. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
We don't agree I think very often, but we will agree on this. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
I think it can provide reassurance to both the police and the public | 0:20:01 | 0:20:05 | |
about the way that both parties are working and acting. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
It is vital, this task of keeping the workforce safe. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
Chief constables are held to account by the democratically electdd PCCs | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
and supported by the Collegd of Policing, who set the st`ndards | 0:20:13 | 0:20:17 | |
that chief constables are charged with initiating. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:22 | |
Let's remind ourselves, we are talking about 23,000 | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
assaults on police officers. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:29 | |
That is over 63 a day, 8000 of those involving | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
injury, some 21 a day. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
North Wales Police say that assaults on officers are a daily occtrrence. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
And the first problem I think we should address is the lack | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
of accurate recording of assaults against police officers. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:46 | |
Plaid Cymru PCC for North W`les Police Force, Arfon Jones, | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
has secured sufficient back budget allocation to ensure he can be | 0:20:48 | 0:20:52 | |
realise his manifesto pledgd to supply every police officer | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
with body-worn video equipment while on duty. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
Body-worn cameras collect evidence which proved beneficial in securing | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
domestic violence convictions, as well as protecting indivhdual | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
officers from malicious complaints and physical assaults. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
There is thus a justice restlt in having these cameras. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:12 | |
A women who contacted me is married to a police officer. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
She describes just how the injuries her husband sustained | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
during the course of his work affects the family. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
To the point where the couple lie to their children about how | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
he sustained his injuries to stop them from worrying. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:27 | |
She says, according to my children, he is the clumsiest dad ever | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
as we have to tell them he fell over, Dad walked | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
into a cupboard door, Dad got caught on | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
the police car door. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:35 | |
I'm tired of seeing my husb`nd coming home injured and havhng | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
to lie to my children about how he sustained his injuries. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:43 | |
I worry every time he is hole late and I am grateful every timd | 0:21:43 | 0:21:47 | |
he returneds home safe. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
I spoke to an officer of some 28 years yesterday. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
In his views, Mr Deputy Spe`ker the charge in standards | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
have been watered down. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:54 | |
His solution, which I'm surd the Government would apprechate | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
is not more police officers, but simply upping the ante | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
in the courts. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:00 | |
All too often, police officdrs who have been assaulted and other | 0:22:00 | 0:22:04 | |
members of the public services, the fire, ambulance and prison | 0:22:04 | 0:22:08 | |
officers, find that the polhce do a fantastic job getting thehr cases | 0:22:08 | 0:22:12 | |
to court, and then the court simply don't have the power to then | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
follow-up and impose a suitable sentence. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:22 | |
One of the things I think is really a huge compliment in our police | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
is most forces around the world carry firearms for protection. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
And yet our own police stand firm behind the principle that wd police | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
by consent, not at the point of a gun. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
And certainly when we see some of the issues in the United States, | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
where far too often incidents that would never be seeing the use | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
of lethal force in this country we see a firearm drawn. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
It is a real boon to our officers that the vast majority | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
of them work every day without a lethal weapon. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:50 | |
But, that said, it is right that police forces in places likd Devon | 0:22:50 | 0:22:54 | |
and Cornwall are looking at expanded use of tasers and measures like spit | 0:22:54 | 0:23:00 | |
hoods to deal with those who do want to show violence. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
The debate featured the maiden speech of Labour's newest MP. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:07 | |
What happened in Batley and Spen was a violent attack | 0:23:07 | 0:23:09 | |
on a member of this House. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
But I'd like to take this moment to thank the police officers | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
themselves who put their lives on the line every single dax. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
Now, how bad is our Parliamdnt? | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
Could we call it a "Not Too Bad Parliament"? | 0:23:23 | 0:23:27 | |
This summer, an academic report was produced entitled | 0:23:27 | 0:23:29 | |
The Good Parliament. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
Drawn up by a Bristol University Professor, Sarah Childs, | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
it made a series of recommendations on how the Commons could medt | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
international standards for a "truly representative, | 0:23:37 | 0:23:47 | |
transparent, accountable and effective Parliament." | 0:23:47 | 0:23:48 | |
MPs in Westminster Hall have been debating some | 0:23:48 | 0:23:50 | |
of the issues in the report. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:52 | |
A lot of young people are looking at Parliament and thinking, | 0:23:52 | 0:23:54 | |
there is nobody there that is like me. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
Or there is not enough people there that are like me. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
I can never achieve that. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:01 | |
And if young people have got that, if young people are not seehng | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
people like them in Parliamdnt, why would they bother | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
to become engaged? | 0:24:07 | 0:24:08 | |
Why would they think, I could become an MP, | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
if we are not living that, if we are not showing that, | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
if we are not destroying those barriers so that they can bdcome | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
members of this Parliament, or of other parliaments? | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
And while this report mainlx looks at gender issues, | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
I believe you cannot isolatd it from other factors that influence | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
representation here. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
According to the Sutton Trust, 32% of MPs were privately educated. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
Compared to 7% of the general population. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:35 | |
Of these, the research shows that almost one in ten went to Eton. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
That's right, nearly 10% of all MPs attended the same school. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:42 | |
A school that, of course, only the boys can attend. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
One of the points I always lade to the Conservative Party | 0:24:46 | 0:24:56 | |
when we were looking at things like all women's short list - | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
fortunately we didn't go down that route - | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
but one of the points I alw`ys made that we have replaced Rupert | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
from Kensington and Chelsea with Jemima from Kensington | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
and Chelsea, not doing an awful lot for diversity | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
in the House of Commons. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:12 | |
Actually replacing Rupert from Kensington and Chelsea with Jim | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
from Newcastle actually would have done a lot more for diversity | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
in the House of Commons than this sort of tokenistic approach | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
to diversity which only sees things in terms of simplistic diversity, | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
for example gender or race. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:23 | |
Philip Davies. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:24 | |
And that's it for this programme. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
Do join me for our next daily round-up. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
Until then, from me, Keith Macdougall, goodbye. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:30 |