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Hello and welcome to the programme.
It's standing date at Prime | 0:00:21 | 0:00:27 | |
minister's questions were Emily
Thorpe very attacks a quest -- the | 0:00:27 | 0:00:34 | |
Government and the DUP. They are the
coalition of casement. He says that | 0:00:34 | 0:00:39 | |
Weber put up with the aid but doing
also the things. Raise the age to | 0:00:39 | 0:00:47 | |
18, and raise the age for using a
sun to 18. Also, MPs backed plans to | 0:00:47 | 0:00:53 | |
move out of Westminster to allow for
multi-billion pound restoration | 0:00:53 | 0:00:58 | |
programme. Any delay increases the
costs. And awards finished their | 0:00:58 | 0:01:03 | |
first big debate on the Bill chance
of earning EU problems the Brexit. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:11 | |
To limit the damage that threatens
the sovereignty of Parliament and | 0:01:11 | 0:01:17 | |
the national interest. We argue --
the more we argue here, the weaker | 0:01:17 | 0:01:22 | |
we make big government. Should we
not be limited to people's folks. It | 0:01:22 | 0:01:28 | |
was all change at Prime minister's
questions was stop Theresa May is on | 0:01:28 | 0:01:33 | |
a trip to China attempting to boost
trade and relations. As was formal | 0:01:33 | 0:01:37 | |
talks there was hype -- however
misses may and her husband to visit | 0:01:37 | 0:01:43 | |
an opera performance. Back at
Westminster, the lead role at Prime | 0:01:43 | 0:01:48 | |
Minister Prosser questions have been
delegated to the Cabinet office | 0:01:48 | 0:01:52 | |
Minister David Lidington. He faced
the shadow of foreign secretary | 0:01:52 | 0:01:56 | |
Emily Thornberry. The sages began
with a little bit of banter about | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
the last time the two had face each
other across the despatch box. Let | 0:01:59 | 0:02:04 | |
me start by welcoming the Minister
back to his role deputizing for the | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
prime Minister. Last time he did so
was in December to says that she | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
doesn't succeed when his party was
17 points ahead in the polls and he | 0:02:11 | 0:02:16 | |
told the House that the Labour Party
was I quote, core rolling like the | 0:02:16 | 0:02:20 | |
film usually on the bouncy reshot by
the team who may carry on. Well, | 0:02:20 | 0:02:25 | |
what a difference a year makes. Can
I first bought thanked the right | 0:02:25 | 0:02:32 | |
honourable Lady for her words of
welcome and clear my previous | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
remarks struck a chord with her to
have been treasured in a way that | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
they clearly have. It's a delight to
me to see the right honourable lady | 0:02:40 | 0:02:46 | |
still in her place when no fewer
than 97 members of her front bench | 0:02:46 | 0:02:53 | |
have either been sacked or resigned
since she took office. Emily | 0:02:53 | 0:03:03 | |
Thornberry asked about the number of
women in Parliament. I am the only | 0:03:03 | 0:03:08 | |
Emily elected since 1980. And he is
one of 155 David's. For the Minister | 0:03:08 | 0:03:13 | |
tell us how he can best increased
female representation in this House? | 0:03:13 | 0:03:17 | |
I am pleased that my party since I
was first elected 25 years ago has | 0:03:17 | 0:03:23 | |
made very considerable progress. But
I also accept that there is more to | 0:03:23 | 0:03:27 | |
be done. I hope she for her part
well except that we have now had to | 0:03:27 | 0:03:33 | |
women beaters and prime Ministers so
they have a bit of catching up to | 0:03:33 | 0:03:39 | |
do. Emily Thornberry. I have to say
Mr Speaker that if the party | 0:03:39 | 0:03:43 | |
opposite is so proud of having a
female leader, why are so many of | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
them trying to get rid of her? And
why has she had to run away from | 0:03:47 | 0:03:53 | |
China -- to China to get away from
them? Emily Thornberry then turned | 0:03:53 | 0:03:58 | |
the 100th anniversary of women
winning the right to vote. It was | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
originally restricted to women with
property over the age of 30 than 90 | 0:04:01 | 0:04:05 | |
years ago it was extended to all
women over 21. Almost 50 years ago | 0:04:05 | 0:04:09 | |
it was extended to all men and women
over the age of 15. So can I ask the | 0:04:09 | 0:04:15 | |
Ministers simple question. I'm any
more years we have to wait the | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
voters extended to everyone over 60?
I have to say I am slightly baffled | 0:04:19 | 0:04:25 | |
by the honourable Lady's comments
when compared what her party did in | 0:04:25 | 0:04:30 | |
office because it was the last
Labour government that praised the | 0:04:30 | 0:04:36 | |
legal age for buying cigarettes --
raise the legal age to selling ice | 0:04:36 | 0:04:41 | |
to 18. Raise the age to buy
fireworks to 18. And raise the age | 0:04:41 | 0:04:45 | |
for using a sunbed to 18. What these
discussions have revealed is that | 0:04:45 | 0:04:52 | |
there is no logical principle
objection to voter 16. That is why | 0:04:52 | 0:04:56 | |
the Welsh and Scottish governments
supported, that is why every single | 0:04:56 | 0:05:00 | |
political party in this House
supports it except for of course the | 0:05:00 | 0:05:02 | |
Conservative Party and the DUP. Once
again, joins in opposition to | 0:05:02 | 0:05:09 | |
change, they are not the coalition
of chaos Mr Speaker, they are the | 0:05:09 | 0:05:14 | |
coalition of casement. Why doesn't
the Minister realise that the lesson | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
that we women it taught his
predecessors 100 years ago? When | 0:05:18 | 0:05:23 | |
changes write it cannot be resisted
forever and this is a change whose | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
time has come. Mr Speaker, I think
my advice to the right honourable | 0:05:26 | 0:05:38 | |
lady is to wean herself off the
habit of watching old versions of | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
the Flintstones on the cartoon
channel. But the speed -- the | 0:05:41 | 0:05:47 | |
situation we have here with the
national voting age at 18 is one | 0:05:47 | 0:05:51 | |
that is followed by 26 out of the 27
other members of the European Union | 0:05:51 | 0:05:58 | |
by the United States, Canada, New
Zealand and Australia. Unless she is | 0:05:58 | 0:06:05 | |
going to denounce all of those
countries and are somehow inadequate | 0:06:05 | 0:06:11 | |
to run particular standards, then
quite honestly, Mr Speaker, she | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
ought to grow up and treat the
subject with a great degree of | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
seriousness. And he's at West is
returned to a different subject of | 0:06:18 | 0:06:28 | |
together, Brexit. This is a
government in crisis. An | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
international embarrassment. The
Chancellor, the Scottish Secretary, | 0:06:31 | 0:06:37 | |
the Scottish Conservatives, the home
Secretary have also ported | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
membership of the single market.
Despite this, the Government is | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
still prepared to make everyone...
Where is the leadership? The most | 0:06:45 | 0:06:54 | |
important single market to the
people of Scotland is the single | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
market of the United Kingdom. Which
is worth nearly £50 billion every | 0:06:57 | 0:07:06 | |
year to the Scottish economy, four
times more than trade with the | 0:07:06 | 0:07:13 | |
European Union. It is our deep and
special partnership with the EU in | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
the future that will help deliver
prosperity to Scotland, not the | 0:07:17 | 0:07:22 | |
separatist policies pursued by the
Scottish National Party. David | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
Lidington. A short time later,
Labour use one of the days that it | 0:07:25 | 0:07:32 | |
could use a subject for debate to
press the Government to release a | 0:07:32 | 0:07:37 | |
report that the UK will take an
economic hit from praxis. The | 0:07:37 | 0:07:42 | |
analysis leads to the bus the
website said that the UK would | 0:07:42 | 0:07:47 | |
expands Gore growth long-term under
each of three scenarios staying in | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
the single market, in the betrayed
jewel and even with no deal at all. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:55 | |
Labour had raised the report their
previous stay and helped it had | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
found a Parliamentary device to make
sure that any vote at the end of | 0:07:58 | 0:08:02 | |
this debate demanded the release of
the papers would be binding on | 0:08:02 | 0:08:06 | |
Ministers. The Government is says
the situation is evolving. The | 0:08:06 | 0:08:10 | |
document is selective and delete is
an attempt to undermine Brexit. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:16 | |
Ministers in the Government
commissioned these papers ended as | 0:08:16 | 0:08:20 | |
Franco -- frankly ridiculous to
rubber stamp or not publishing. If | 0:08:20 | 0:08:27 | |
they could be shunted Ministers to
brief them for an important meeting | 0:08:27 | 0:08:29 | |
next week, then it seems to me they
are certainly way past the stage of | 0:08:29 | 0:08:35 | |
an early script that hasn't been
approved. The Brexit Minister told | 0:08:35 | 0:08:40 | |
MPs the Government would not oppose
labour's motion and released | 0:08:40 | 0:08:45 | |
economic analysis on a confidential
basis. We will provide the analysis | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
to a confidential basis. We will
provide the analysis place I | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
committed the -- committee for the
European Union and all members on a | 0:08:51 | 0:08:55 | |
sticky confidential basis. We will
provide a hard copy of the analysis | 0:08:55 | 0:09:00 | |
to a chair the EU Senate -- select
committee. A confidential reading | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
room will be available to all
members to see a copy of this | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
analysis once those arrangements can
be made. The Brexit Minister Robin | 0:09:08 | 0:09:12 | |
Walker. MPs have backed Abe Paul at
Parliament to move the permit out of | 0:09:12 | 0:09:21 | |
my Mr while billions of pounds are
being carried out. The building is | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
part of a world heritage site, but
the stonework is crumbling and there | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
are problems with the wiring, pipes
and plumbing. This thorny problem of | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
how to carry out the repairs has
been booked at over the years. The | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
most recent committee suggested
there were three options. Moving | 0:09:36 | 0:09:40 | |
out, moving one chamber out at a
time and staying put for the word to | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
be carried out around MPs. The three
options carried correspondingly | 0:09:44 | 0:09:49 | |
increasing price tags. Opening a
debate, the leader of the Commons | 0:09:49 | 0:09:55 | |
presented MPs with two motions. One
of which suggested a further review | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
and a second suggesting the setting
up of a authority to look over the | 0:09:59 | 0:10:03 | |
options again and fully cost them.
She said she approached the question | 0:10:03 | 0:10:09 | |
of frustration with the help degree
of scepticism. I like many felt that | 0:10:09 | 0:10:14 | |
the case for a major restoration
programme had probably been | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
overstated. The Palace of fine to me
and that we would be able to | 0:10:17 | 0:10:22 | |
continue to patch and mend as he
went along as we have done for many, | 0:10:22 | 0:10:27 | |
many decades. However Mr Speaker,
during my seven months in the job, I | 0:10:27 | 0:10:33 | |
have as they say got on a journey. I
have lived and breathed this topic. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
I visited the basement and seen for
myself what our engineers are up | 0:10:37 | 0:10:41 | |
against. We must recognise that as
time passes without comprehensive | 0:10:41 | 0:10:48 | |
action, those risks only increase.
This work is necessary for safety | 0:10:48 | 0:10:54 | |
that is been agreed by everyone. We
need to do it now, we can't delay. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
Any delay increases the costs. A big
den dismiss the idea of moving one | 0:10:57 | 0:11:03 | |
chamber out at a time. The
Conservatives to provide for the | 0:11:03 | 0:11:08 | |
whole of the House and you cannot
decant half of the building. When I | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
look at this building and I look at
the stunning architecture and the | 0:11:12 | 0:11:17 | |
condition of it, I actually see it
as some sort of sad metaphor for | 0:11:17 | 0:11:22 | |
Brexit Britain. Dilapidated, falling
to bits surrounded, generally | 0:11:22 | 0:11:27 | |
unloved and in need of a lot of
attention and support. Doesn't that | 0:11:27 | 0:11:31 | |
just sum up what this nation is? Mr
Speaker, yes of course I can wait. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:43 | |
My honourable cousin from Scotland
would take a crowbar and says that | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
he actually loves it here.
Recovering from that, Peter Wishart | 0:11:46 | 0:11:54 | |
said he favoured turning the House
into a Turner's attraction. -- | 0:11:54 | 0:12:00 | |
tourist attraction. An amendment had
been put down to back down and | 0:12:00 | 0:12:04 | |
moving during work. It propose for
the delivery agency to be set up as | 0:12:04 | 0:12:10 | |
soon as possible. One of the MPs
behind that amendment explained why. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:15 | |
He said trying to move one chamber
out at a time with double the cost | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
and the risk of fire. The thought of
cutting a sewer system in half or | 0:12:18 | 0:12:24 | |
the electrics or any of the other
works does not make sense because of | 0:12:24 | 0:12:29 | |
the nature of the building. I'm
sorry to say this, but I wouldn't | 0:12:29 | 0:12:36 | |
give my honourable friend and I hope
he remains a friend from | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
Gainsborough a leg to play with.
Eight reference thereto Sir Edward | 0:12:39 | 0:12:47 | |
Lee who put down his own amendment
calling for MPs to say in the | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
precinct of the Palace of
Westminster while the work was | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
carried out around them. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:59 | |
What about the 100 million people
over the air and this is the iconic | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
centre as we try and resolve these
ethical questions. -- the 1 million | 0:13:02 | 0:13:08 | |
people who visit here every year. Do
we really want to take this a day | 0:13:08 | 0:13:14 | |
number split decision at the very
developed hi-fi nation we should | 0:13:14 | 0:13:18 | |
move lock stock and barrel from the
iconic centre of the nation. That | 0:13:18 | 0:13:23 | |
then followed a series of votes.
Unusually, this was what is known as | 0:13:23 | 0:13:29 | |
a free vote, or MPs did have to
follow a party line and could go | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
however they wanted. MPs backed the
amendment calling for both houses to | 0:13:32 | 0:13:37 | |
move out of the palace wall work was
carried out. 236 votes - 220. No | 0:13:37 | 0:13:43 | |
date set for one that will happen,
but during the debate, Andrea | 0:13:43 | 0:13:47 | |
Leadsom said MPs and peers would not
leave the house of Parliament until | 0:13:47 | 0:13:52 | |
2025 at the earliest. You are
watching Wednesday in Parliament | 0:13:52 | 0:13:56 | |
with me. Now to the second day of
debate in the House of Lords on the | 0:13:56 | 0:14:08 | |
EU withdrawal bill. Which transferee
July two UK domestic law on the day | 0:14:08 | 0:14:12 | |
after Brexit. Ministers could have
been left in no doubt a ball as the | 0:14:12 | 0:14:18 | |
today's war on, but they had a fight
on their hands. There were peers for | 0:14:18 | 0:14:22 | |
and against call for a second
referendum but speakers from both | 0:14:22 | 0:14:26 | |
sides of the debate argued for big
changes to the Bill, especially over | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
the powers Ministers are seeking to
give themselves. A former speaker of | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
the Commons set the tone. The duty
of your Lordship's is very clear. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:40 | |
And that duty I submit it to assert
our right to scrutinise, to amend, | 0:14:40 | 0:14:48 | |
and if needs be, to reject
unacceptable parts of this bill and | 0:14:48 | 0:14:54 | |
to use the anti-union arsenal of our
powers and prerogatives. To limit | 0:14:54 | 0:14:59 | |
the damage that threatens the
sovereignty of Parliament and the | 0:14:59 | 0:15:07 | |
national interest. Yes, I will work
for amendments to this bill that's | 0:15:07 | 0:15:12 | |
soften the impact of Brexit
safeguard isn't a race, we powers to | 0:15:12 | 0:15:19 | |
override the legislator. And give
Parliament a manifold vote on no | 0:15:19 | 0:15:25 | |
deal as well. -- a Briggs and
safeguard is in place. When we know | 0:15:25 | 0:15:31 | |
where we are going and how we get
there a device logic to a decision | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
taken daily to the two years ago
without the fax should be the last | 0:15:35 | 0:15:42 | |
word which is setting the course for
our country for decades to come. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:48 | |
Both Parliament and people was be
consulted on this end game. We are | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
at a crossroads, without a compass,
and with squabbling back-seat | 0:15:51 | 0:15:56 | |
drivers. And it is important my
lords that we really do have | 0:15:56 | 0:16:03 | |
indication from the Government as to
what they see as the preferred | 0:16:03 | 0:16:09 | |
outcome. This bill is not about the
terms or exit. But about the | 0:16:09 | 0:16:13 | |
mechanism of how it will come. --
the mechanism. We should not be | 0:16:13 | 0:16:18 | |
distracted by debates on the merits
or detriments of leaving the EU. The | 0:16:18 | 0:16:22 | |
Government themselves have made a
commitment to assure Parliament the | 0:16:22 | 0:16:27 | |
opportunity to consider the deal and
approve what they have negotiated. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
This bill passed by the elected
House as most noble of lords and | 0:16:31 | 0:16:36 | |
said, far from perfect. It seems to
me that the lawmaking powers of | 0:16:36 | 0:16:41 | |
Ministers need to be defined and
rejected on the face of the Bill, | 0:16:41 | 0:16:47 | |
then it is to be clarification of
the status of EU legislation to | 0:16:47 | 0:16:52 | |
create legal certainty, and
anti-Semitic much clearer devolution | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
of powers to Scotland, nor the and
Wales match. -- and it needs to be | 0:16:56 | 0:17:02 | |
much more clever devolution of
powers. It should not be a limiting | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
the people's vote, and looked as we
are, putting together and presented | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
the United front by all means
improving the Bill before us but let | 0:17:09 | 0:17:15 | |
us not frustrated. The Government
connects back to no let up in our | 0:17:15 | 0:17:19 | |
efforts to make this bill somehow
against all odds work. As we leave | 0:17:19 | 0:17:27 | |
Europe. As we leave Europe, an act
of extraordinary political self harm | 0:17:27 | 0:17:36 | |
that our grandchildren and their
children will not forgive us for. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:40 | |
The damage this bill would lose our
Constitution if not amended has been | 0:17:40 | 0:17:47 | |
probably did described by a number
of Noble Lords. And in a number of | 0:17:47 | 0:17:51 | |
Noble Lords. For an inadvertent
rapport of our Constitution | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
committee. They are right to say
that this bill is constitutionally | 0:17:53 | 0:17:57 | |
unacceptable. -- in a brilliant. The
reality of it becomes clear. It is | 0:17:57 | 0:18:05 | |
entitled to choose if he wants to to
seek the opinion of the British | 0:18:05 | 0:18:10 | |
singled as to whether this is what
they want. I cannot believe it is in | 0:18:10 | 0:18:15 | |
the national interest to get onto
such a referendum merry-go-round. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:19 | |
What ever a point of view we fought
for in the referendum campaign, we | 0:18:19 | 0:18:24 | |
could've made it success of the
United Kingdom and the European | 0:18:24 | 0:18:28 | |
Union. And we can make a success
with some costs and upheaval of | 0:18:28 | 0:18:32 | |
being outside the EU. But we cannot
possibly make a success of being | 0:18:32 | 0:18:39 | |
being in a national state of
bewilderment I won't will have | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
another referendum in which
direction we are going in. William, | 0:18:42 | 0:18:47 | |
now Lord hate. As we heard
yesterday's programme, Lord Adonis | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
had proposed a motion regretting
them not stopping the Bill. -- Lord | 0:18:50 | 0:18:55 | |
Haig. But he did not present a
label. So after to days of debate, | 0:18:55 | 0:19:00 | |
and speeches by more than a peers,
the Bill received its second | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
reading. And it will begin his more
detailed through Lords in February. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:10 | |
Now a Government Minister in the
Lords house has dramatically | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
resigned at the despatch box at
making a heartfelt apology for | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
failing to be and is placed to
respond to a question. Lord Bates | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
had been asked to respond from a
lesser but failed to appear. At the | 0:19:20 | 0:19:28 | |
end of questions, he apologised for
what he described as his | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
discourtesy. I've always believed
that we should offer a ride to the | 0:19:32 | 0:19:37 | |
highest possible standards of
courtesy and respect. In responding | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
on behalf of the Government to be
legitimate questions of the | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
legislator. I am thoroughly ashamed
of not being in my place and | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
therefore I should be offering my
recognition to the Prime Minister. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
With immediate... While he
immediately walked out of the | 0:19:52 | 0:19:59 | |
chamber, is that he forgot that the
Lord says send prayers in the | 0:19:59 | 0:20:03 | |
morning before they resumed the
second reading debate on the EU | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
withdrawal bill. Rather than before
the afternoon session of questions | 0:20:06 | 0:20:11 | |
as usual. This meant the questions
had begun rather earlier than | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
expected. Downing Street later said
the Prime Minister had refused to | 0:20:14 | 0:20:19 | |
accept his resignation. The BBC's
Carrie Gracie has told MPs she is | 0:20:19 | 0:20:26 | |
very angry at the way the
Corporation has treated some female | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
members of staff. Kerry Grace
resigned as China added their citing | 0:20:29 | 0:20:35 | |
pay inequalities with male
colleagues. The BBC said there was | 0:20:35 | 0:20:39 | |
no systematic discrimination against
women. She told the culture and | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
media committee that the response to
her grievance was insulting and that | 0:20:43 | 0:20:49 | |
woman the organisation were
suffering more. If the BBC cannot | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
sort it out for me, a senior person
in a powerful position, then how can | 0:20:51 | 0:20:58 | |
a sort it out for moldable people
who don't have a public profile? | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
That is my concern. -- more
vulnerable people. People pacing the | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
strain of being in conflict at the
delays in capacity and the | 0:21:05 | 0:21:12 | |
belittling of your work because that
is what has to happen if they're not | 0:21:12 | 0:21:17 | |
going to concede, they're going to
have to crush your self-esteem about | 0:21:17 | 0:21:21 | |
your work. So that is very painful.
I'd found all of that really hard. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:31 | |
And I really did... I'm a little
upset... I felt very angry about | 0:21:31 | 0:21:43 | |
what they put some people through.
I've really feel angry about some of | 0:21:43 | 0:21:50 | |
the things I have seen and heard in
some of the women, the suffering | 0:21:50 | 0:21:55 | |
they got through. As regards their
own case, she said the BBC had not | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
admitted she was the victim to pay
discrimination. -- to her own case. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
It sounds like a tacit omission that
it is pay discrimination. In that | 0:22:03 | 0:22:09 | |
they want to pay me now nearly
£100,000 in back pay. But, the thing | 0:22:09 | 0:22:16 | |
that is very unacceptable to me, I
just don't know why they do this. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:24 | |
They basically said and those three
previous years, I was in | 0:22:24 | 0:22:30 | |
development. LAUGHTER It is an
insult to add to the original | 0:22:30 | 0:22:38 | |
injury. It is unacceptable to talk
to your senior women like that. The | 0:22:38 | 0:22:43 | |
next witness was the Director
General, Tony Hall. How is | 0:22:43 | 0:22:48 | |
impossible for one of them to be
underpaid for years? The answer is | 0:22:48 | 0:22:53 | |
that it is wrong. How is a possible?
Is not like there is not like | 0:22:53 | 0:22:58 | |
there's 100. What we are doing going
forward is we want to make sure we | 0:22:58 | 0:23:02 | |
keep these things under review, we
don't get the point where the band | 0:23:02 | 0:23:09 | |
between somebody who's a low-paid
and atop a editor is not | 0:23:09 | 0:23:14 | |
justifiable. What we are saying is
who will bring those down so they | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
are justifiable and make sure these
things are reviewed properly. Do you | 0:23:18 | 0:23:22 | |
agree with me that the BBC has paid
less to women for work of equal | 0:23:22 | 0:23:27 | |
value? I... The answer is there may
be cases, individual cases, where if | 0:23:27 | 0:23:37 | |
that is the case, we need to know
where they are and solve them. But | 0:23:37 | 0:23:43 | |
what I don't believe is that the BBC
as an organisation, have gone out | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
and said because it will be a little
to do so anyway, because the woman I | 0:23:47 | 0:23:52 | |
pay less to do that job. I don't
believe... To go back to the case of | 0:23:52 | 0:24:00 | |
Carrie of being pay less. I have
said already the grievance and the | 0:24:00 | 0:24:06 | |
mistakes the grievance procedure has
found, I accept the role and I'm | 0:24:06 | 0:24:12 | |
sorry about that. That was a big
failure of management, within a? The | 0:24:12 | 0:24:19 | |
systems were not in place to deal
with that. No,... Are you saying no | 0:24:19 | 0:24:26 | |
it wasn't a failure. What I'm saying
is that for me management has about | 0:24:26 | 0:24:31 | |
learning and listening. Things are
never right, that is why we are | 0:24:31 | 0:24:36 | |
processing performed in pain
condition, terms and conditions, two | 0:24:36 | 0:24:41 | |
years ago, James Hardie at the same
time also looked at this whole issue | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
of top talent page news because we
knew we had things to get right. It | 0:24:44 | 0:24:49 | |
has taken a long time and as is
committee heard today, these are | 0:24:49 | 0:24:54 | |
very competent issues. But don't
underestimate our desire to get this | 0:24:54 | 0:24:56 | |
right. The BBC Director General,
Tony Hall. Finally, MPs were all | 0:24:56 | 0:25:03 | |
over Twitter during questions and
not in the usual way. A Robin have | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
found its way into the chamber and
swooped across the ceiling during | 0:25:07 | 0:25:11 | |
Wales questions at the start of the
day. Half an hour later, it was | 0:25:11 | 0:25:15 | |
still roosting in the chamber during
Prime Minister questions. The SNP | 0:25:15 | 0:25:20 | |
Westminster later signed opportunity
to make a quick joke about David | 0:25:20 | 0:25:24 | |
Lidington's possible leadership
ambitions. Then I welcome the | 0:25:24 | 0:25:28 | |
Minister to his place with the
reports are true, he may be | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
auditioning for a new role and I
wonder if a sending out a | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
round-robin letter. Mr Speaker... Or
perhaps he could just put on | 0:25:34 | 0:25:39 | |
twitter. And that is that from us
for now. Join me at the same time | 0:25:39 | 0:25:44 | |
tomorrow for another round up of the
day here at Westminster. For now for | 0:25:44 | 0:25:48 | |
me, Lazio Mccarthy, goodbye. --
Alysia Mccarthy. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 |