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Now on BBC News,

Wednesday in Parliament.

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Hello and welcome to the programme.

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Coming up, Theresa May says 23

Russian diplomats will be expelled

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after Moscow failed to explain

the nerve agent attack in Salisbury.

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They have treated the use of a

military grade nerve agent in Europe

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with sarcasm, content and defiance.

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But the Labour leader

has more questions.

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How has she responded to the request

for a sample of the agents used in

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the Salisbury at tack to run its own

tests?

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And the Communities

Secretary sets out a plan

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to improve social cohesion.

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Everyone, regardless of whether they

are a new arrival or they can trace

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their ancestry back to the Norman

conquest feels proud to call this

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country there are home.

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But first, for the second time

in a week, the Prime Minister has

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addressed MPs about the attempted

murder of a former Russian spy

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and his daughter in Salisbury.

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On Monday, there'd been an outcry

after Jeremy Corbyn was felt to have

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abandoned the consensus that's usual

in Parliament when the UK

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is under threat.

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On Wednesday, Theresa May's midnight

deadline had passed and Moscow had

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failed to explain the involvement

of a Russian-made nerve agent.

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The Prime Minister

outlined her response.

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It was right to offer Russia the

opportunity to provide an

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explanation. Their response has

demonstrated complete disdain for

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the gravity of these events. They

have provided no credible

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explanation that could suggest they

lost control of their nerve agent.

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No explanation as to how this agent

came to be used in the -- the United

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Kingdom. No explanation as to why

Russia has an undeclared chemical

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weapons programme in contravention

of international law. Instead, they

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have treated the use of military

grade nerve agent in Europe sarcasm,

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contempt and defiance. So, Mr

Speaker, there is no alternative

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conclusion other than that the

Russian state was culpable for the

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attempted murder of Mr Scrip role on

his daughter -- Mr Skripal.

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She spelt out what measures

the Government would now be taking.

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We will expel 23 diplomats who have

been declared as offices. They have

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one week to leave. This will be the

single biggest expulsion for over 30

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years and it reflect the fact that

this is not the first time that the

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Russian state have acted against our

country. Through these expulsions,

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we will fundamentally degrade

Russian intelligence capability in

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the UK for years to come, we will

freeze Russian state assets were

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over we have the evidence that they

may be used to threaten the life or

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property of UK nationals or

residence, and led by the National

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crime agency, we will continue to

bring all the capabilities of UK law

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enforcement to bear against serious

criminals and corrupt elites. There

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is no place for these people or

their money in our country.

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In response, the opposition leader

condemned the attack in Salisbury.

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He wondered if it was still possible

that Russia had lost

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control of a nerve agent.

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Has the Prime Minister taken the

necessary steps under the chemical

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weapons Convention to make a formal

request for evidence on the Russian

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government under article 9.2? How

has she responded to the Russian

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government's request for a sample of

the agents used in the Salisbury

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attacker to run it own tests? Has

high resolution trace analysis being

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run on a sample of the nerve agent,

and has that revealed any evidence

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as to the location of its product

shouldn't or the identity of its

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perpetrators?

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Jeering began when Mr Corbyn

condemned cutbacks

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in diplomatic staff.

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The Speaker interrupted to call

for order as Conservative MPs,

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including those on the frontbench,

continued to heckle.

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I couldn't understand a word of what

the Foreign Secretary just said, Mr

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Speaker, but his Hager demeans his

office. -- is behaviour.

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There was a terse response

to Jeremy Corbyn's stance

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from the Prime Minister.

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It was clear from the remarks that

were made by backbenchers across the

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whole of this house on Monday that

there is a consensus across the back

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benches of the South. I am only

sorry that the consensus does not go

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as far as the right honourable

gentleman.

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Who... Who could... Who could have

taken the opportunity as the UK

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government has done to condemn the

culpability of the Russian state.

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Many on the Labour backbenches

spoke out in support

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of Theresa May's action,

including one MP who explicitly

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condemned his own leader's response.

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Responding with strength and resolve

when your country is under threat is

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an essential component of political

leadership. There is labour

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tradition that understands that and

it is understood by all parties who

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have stood there.

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Spokesmen from other parties

expressed solidarity

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with the Government.

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There has to be a robust response to

the use of terror on our streets. We

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must act in a measured way to show

that we will simply not tolerate

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this behaviour, and in this regard,

I will --, an associate with those

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of these on these benches with the

measures contained in a statement.

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We welcome the decisive action which

has been taken by the Prime Minister

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today, and it sits in contrast with

the policy of appeasement that we

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have heard from the front bench of

the Labour Party. I'm sure the

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people of the UK are pleased that it

is a Prime Minister who is standing

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behind that dispatch box today,

defending the rule of law and the

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citizens of this country.

I say that

I and my party fully support the

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Prime Minister's statements. But can

I ask, what is her response to the

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brave Leader of the Opposition in

Russia? Who is not allowed to stand

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in the presidential election. Who

has said that the most effective

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action the British government can

take is to use its legal powers such

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as the unexplained wealth orders

against named individuals who are

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critical to the Putin operation?

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A Labour MP had two

suggestions for cracking down

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on Russian money-laundering.

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She could bring forward the public

register of ownership properties,

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which was promised by her

predecessor in 2015, and has been

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delayed by this government, and in

the second place, she could increase

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transparency in our corporate

structures so we would know who

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forms companies here, where the

money comes from and deal with it if

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it is illicit money brought in by

arms they breed people. -- on

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slavery. -- unsavoury.

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The Prime Minister said

she was looking at those options.

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But it was a senior Conservative

who emphasised the seriousness

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of the whole situation.

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Ken Clarke.

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This is actually a serious threat to

the safety of the Western world

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unless we do or something together

to actually start getting the

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Russians to do something as opposed

to simply ignore us.

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Now to Prime Minister's Questions,

where Jeremy Corbyn urged

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Theresa May to "get a grip"

on England's NHS.

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The session had begun

with both leaders paying

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tribute to the physicist

Professor Stephen Hawking,

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whose death had been announced

just a few hours earlier.

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But when questioning began

in earnest, the Labour leader

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turned his attention to the health

service and raised two cases

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which he believed highlighted

the problems it faced.

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Firstly, he cited a cancer patient

unable to get treatment,

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before turning to a letter

he'd received from a pensioner

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called Hilary.

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I am now having to pay for my

thyroid medication because the CCG

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needs to save money. I've worked all

my life, paid national Insurance and

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this is not fair.

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Theresa May asked for the details

of the cases he'd raised.

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May I just take this opportunity of

reminding him that I think he raised

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the case about Georgina with me last

Hobart and hasn't written to me

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about that.

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And Theresa May went on to defend

the Government's record

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on the health service.

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Jeremy Corbyn said Georgina's case

had been resolved before he'd had

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a chance to bring it

to the Prime Minister,

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showing the power of Parliament.

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He moved on to funding.

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The NHS is clearly in crisis, so why

wasn't there a penny extra for the

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NHS in yesterday's statement by the

chancellor?

Prime Minister...

Can I

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say to the right honourable

gentlemen, we didn't wait until

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yesterday's Spring statement to

announce more money for the NHS. We

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are now sit in the budget last

autumn! And as a result of that, the

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NHS is getting £2.5 billion more in

the forthcoming financial year, 18,

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19, and more to resolve the nurses

pay settlement.

A recent reports

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suggest that NHS funding will fall

by 0.3% in 2019. People's lives are

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at stake. If the Prime Minister

really saying AMD doctors are wrong,

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NHS managers are wrong, Royal

colleges are wrong, health unions

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are wrong, and actually, it is only

she that knows best about the NHS?

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We are putting more money into the

National Health Service, but what

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you need in order to be able to do

that is to ensure that you have a

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strong economy to provide the money

for the National health service.

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What do we know about the policies?

It would cause a run on the pound,

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crash our economy, less money for

the NHS.

Jeremy Corbyn!

When people

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are dying because of long waits in

hospitals, I think the Prime

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Minister should get a grip and

ensure the NHS now has the money

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that it needs to deal with the

patient demands. We started with

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Professor Stephen Hawking and he

said a few months ago, there is

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overwhelming evidence that NHS

funding and the number of doctors

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and nurses are inadequate and it's

getting worse. Does she agree with

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Professor Hawking?

Prime Minister.

Once again, I'm very happy to point

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out some facts to the right

honourable gentleman. There are

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14,900 more doctors working in the

National Health Service. We have

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almost 13,900 more nurses working on

how awards. Why don't we put an

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emphasis on nurses working in our

wards? Because of what we saw under

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the labour government in mid-

Staffs.

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The SNP's Westminster leader turned

to a completely different subject.

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The row between Westminster

and the Scottish and Welsh

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governments over the return

of powers to the UK after Brexit.

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Prime Minister famously claimed that

the UK was made up of equal

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partners. What an irony. Now that is

overseeing the demolition of the

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settlement. I call upon the Prime

Minister once again, stock with

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attack on devolution and double your

efforts and working with the

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ministrations in finding agreement.

This is the government has given

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more powers to the Scottish

government. This is a government

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that will be giving more powers to

the Scottish government, significant

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extra powers will be given as a

result of the decisions that we are

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taking around Brexit.

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And there were accusations

of a Whitehall power grab

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during Welsh Questions.

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The Scottish and Welsh governments

are working on their own legislation

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as a backstop in the event

that agreement is not reached

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with ministers over

the EU Withdrawal Bill,

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the so-called "continuity bills".

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Plaid Cymru's leader at Westminster

said the Welsh EU Continuity Bill

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was set to pass its first stage

in the Welsh Assembly.

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If it passes, debates will be forced

out of this chamber and into the

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court. Will the Secretary of State

confirm when the continuity bill

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passes, whether he intends to fight

us in the courts?

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The Wales Secretary

didn't think bills were necessary.

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The 64 areas, we have already said

that 30 would pass without any need

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for any further agreement or at the

very most, an informal agreement

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between the UK government and the

administrations. There are 24 areas

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whereby it is in the interests of

businesses in Wales, Scotland and

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northern England and to have common

practices that we can predict the UK

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market. 80% of Welsh output is sold

to the rest of the world.

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The other question taxing MPs

with Welsh constituencies

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was the proposed introduction of US

tariffs on steel.

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If the Secretary of State aware of

the tax -- are aware of when George

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Bush introduced tariffs, it led to

200,000 job losses.

What steps are

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being taken to ensure American

politicians and employers and trade

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unions up pushing President Trump to

drop these utterly self-defeating

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tariffs?

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The Minister said the Government

was deeply disappointed by the move.

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This is such a priority to this

government. Across government action

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to support it. As someone whose

father was a world in steel I

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recognise the importance of this

industry.

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Alan Cairns.

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Mistrust, anxiety and prejudice

are characterising too many

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parts of the country,

the Communities Secretary has said.

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He told MPs there was a "lack

of meaningful mixing" between people

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from different backgrounds,

as he set out a government

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consultation paper on how

to improve integration.

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None of these measures dilutes the

government's commitment to project

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legitimate rights to free speech and

practising religion within the law.

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Indeed the green paper reaffirms

this commitment. But we cannot and

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will not shy away from challenging

cultural practices that are harmful,

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particularly for women and girls.

Recent news about the abuses in

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Telford highlights how important

this is. Parents who work hard to

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get on and give something back. I

want everyone in Britain to enjoy

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opportunities. Playing a full and

proper role in British society. To

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see people from all backgrounds

mixing really without fear to ensure

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that everyone, regardless of whether

they are a new arrival or can trace

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their ancestry back to the Norman

conquest, feels proud to call this

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country it's home.

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Labour said the strategy

needed to be ambitious

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and backed by serious money.

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So we welcome the Broads cost of the

strategy as an overdue first step

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but despite the fact it lacks some

of the ambition, we would like the

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strategy to be deeper and wider in

its approach. There are some

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positive ideas to the statement. The

true test will be whether there is a

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rigourous evaluation or any

successful strategy is given the

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backing to be expanded to all areas.

Can I urge the government to make

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sure its ambitions are matched by

sufficient funding to make a reality

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and also to the Secretary of State

to recognise the route cause is a

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lack of opportunity. There are two

feelgood jobs, low levels of

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education and many people living in

poverty.

This parliament has

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pandered to the tabloids. They

should apologise. This is a

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government of go home fans, hostile

environments, making asylum seekers

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destitute, preventing them from

working. Dealing highly skilled

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migrants a threat to national

security. Of the Brexit shambles

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which makes EU nationals feel so

unwelcome.

Despite the attitude

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taken, we stand ready to work with

the Scottish Government to further

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joint goals of having a more

integrated society.

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Sajid Javid.

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MPs spent much of the afternoon

on the first of two days

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general debate on Brexit.

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Discussion ranged from trade

to devolution to the Irish border.

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A Labour MP meanwhile was highly

critical of the government's

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handling of the Brexit negotiations.

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This whole Brexit catastrophe is

like watching a car crash in slow

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motion except that the fact that as

the driver, the Prime Minister is

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holding her hands over her eyes and

tried to convince the passengers,

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that is her own party and the

public, that everything will turn

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out fine. There is a hit at it and

hope attitude from the government.

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Completely ignoring the realities of

the modern world. The UK government

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tells us it is all going to be well

and we are supposed to take it on

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trust but through this entire

process to date, they have sought to

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exclude Parliament.

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A Conservative former MEP said

a transition arrangement

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needed to be agreed now.

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She gave an example of why

it was so important.

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On the back of my mobile phone is a

CE mark on every product which is

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placed in the market in Europe has

this mark in anything that has been

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imported to the UK has to have this

mark put on it and the mark is

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offered with a 12- month certificate

and so if you are importing your

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mobile home from elsewhere, you need

someone who can issue a certificate

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which takes you notice to the end of

this march but next March and unless

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we resolve transition this month,

what happens to CE is a good place

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on the market and it will not be

resolved. Actually, there are not

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enough notified bodies to take the

place of the British notified bodies

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today.

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And that debate

continues on Thursday.

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The question of how to deal

with Russia came up again

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on the Committee corridor.

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The Culture Secretary Matt Hancock

was asked whether the regulator

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Ofcom should conduct a fit

and proper person test

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on Russia Today, or RT,

the Russian Federation's news

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channel which operates in the UK.

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In a statement yesterday, of Com

said that should the UK

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investigating authorities determine

there was an unlawful use of force,

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we will consider this to be

satisfied that RT is fit and proper.

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Has that condition be met? They said

that should the UK authorities

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determine there was in what will use

force, they will consider this

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relevant in their ongoing duty to be

satisfied that RT is fit and proper.

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We do consider there was an unlawful

use of force by the Russian state

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against the UK. It's a question four

of Com on how to react to that.

It's

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very important bits is a matter for

Com. That is the structure of

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regulation that was put in place and

has strong cross-party support and

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one of the other things the Prime

Minister said, we must respond to

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this threat from Russia appropriate

to our values and one of our values

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is that politicians and the

government don't interfere.

The

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Prime Minister has talked about

hostile state activity in general.

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TUC disinformation emanating from

the Russian state through the

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distribution of fake news or

incidents were Russian state

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broadcasters have breached UK code.

DC mitigations as part of that

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package?

Yes, we've clearly seen

activity from Russia directed that

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all Western democracies. And that

includes here in the UK and the

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committee has done excellent work in

ensuring that we get to the bottom

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of the quantum of that. And there is

clearly intent.

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But he said that in the UK

the impact of this

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disinformation had been minimal.

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For instance, when it comes to the

referendum, there is no evidence the

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outcome of the referendum has been

affected. If you look at the scale

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of activity, on the evidence that we

have so far seen, there is no

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evidence of an impact on the overall

result, not least because the margin

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was over a million votes in the

scale of the impact that we have

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evidence for as much more.

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Matt Hancock also said he'd

commissioned independent research

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on the effects of fake

news and disinformation.

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He was then asked what more social

media platforms should do to stop

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foreign intervention in elections,

particularly when it's sometimes

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impossible to trace the person

responsible for a post.

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There are some ways that we have

tackled that and some of them using

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the law and some not. In not using

the law, when Daesh were using

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Twitter aggressively, we set up UK

against Daesh and a series of

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Twitter accounts which make the

argument in the opposite direction

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in that campaign was very

successful.

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Owners of dogs with behavioural

problems can buy collars which give

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the animal an electric shock.

0:23:050:23:06

The idea is help train them,

but campaigners argue

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the devices are cruel.

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MPs have called for their use to be

banned in England and they debated

0:23:100:23:13

the issue in Westminster Hall.

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A Conservative MP described the case

of Ostarra Langridge in Brighton

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who used an electric collar

on her dogs.

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The first time that all got a shock

was when they were buying stake.

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From then on, her pets associated

the shocks with small dogs and

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therefore became afraid of them. So

when Mr language -- language

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described the day when her dogs

turned on a shiatsu, she had tears

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in arise, they connected the pain of

the electric shock with dogs because

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the first time I used the collar,

the day that machine came in this

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house, I regret.

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The Environment Minister said he'd

heard cases both good and bad.

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There are often quoted reactions to

colours such as people using

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hand-held devices is the strongest

sitting in the first use. Another

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example is in relation to

containment fences and when a dog

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chases something beyond the boundary

line, they are often too scared to

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return. The stories of dogs who

might be alive today were it not for

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these collars. This consultation

obviously provides supporters of the

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colours and opponents of such

devices to express their views on

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this issue.

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The Minister said it was already

an offence to cause unnecessary

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suffering to an animal,

but a ban would give

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clarity on the issue.

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And finally, MPs are always anxious

to get in a good word

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about their constituency

and the ideal time to do this

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is Prime Minister's Questions.

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So in the very dying minutes,

one Conservative seized his chance.

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The inspirational music man project

in Southend that works with people

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who have learning difficulties has

now set a world record for tinkling

0:25:110:25:16

the most number of triangles of.

Does my right honourable friend

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agree with me that that is yet

another reason why Southend should

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be made a city?

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The Prime Minister seemed unwilling

to commit to Southend becoming

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a city on just the strength

of that, but...

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I am very happy to congratulate the

music man project in Southend for

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the record they have achieved in

tinkling triangles.

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Now there's a phrase you don't hear

a Prime Minister say every day.

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And that's all.

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So from me, Mandy Baker, goodbye.

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Hello there.

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