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torrential rain and 250 kilometre an hour winds. Those are the latest | :00:00. | :00:00. | |
headlines from BBC World News. Now for the latest financial news with | :00:00. | :00:17. | |
Sally. Publish and be damned ` the court hearing that could change the | :00:18. | :00:22. | |
way we use the internet forever. And fasten your seatbelts ` Lufthansa | :00:23. | :00:26. | |
could be in for a bumpy ride, as it unveils new cost`cutting plans. | :00:27. | :00:37. | |
Welcome to World Business Report. I'm Sally Bundock. Also in the | :00:38. | :00:44. | |
programme, we will look at high`level US China talks on cyber | :00:45. | :00:53. | |
crime. But first of all, it is a question of rights versus | :00:54. | :00:55. | |
responsibilities. Online news site Delfi thought it had the right to | :00:56. | :00:58. | |
protect the freedom of speech exercised by its users, even when | :00:59. | :01:01. | |
their comments proved defamatory. But an Estonian court ruled Delfi's | :01:02. | :01:04. | |
real responsibility was to vet anonymous comments before publishing | :01:05. | :01:06. | |
them. Today the European Court of Human Rights will make a final | :01:07. | :01:09. | |
ruling that could change the way we use the internet forever. The | :01:10. | :01:21. | |
Estonian capital, an EU state that prides itself on how it supports new | :01:22. | :01:26. | |
online ventures. Yet if the case determined there is upheld in the | :01:27. | :01:29. | |
grand chamber of the European Court of human rights, websites could be | :01:30. | :01:33. | |
forced to heavily censor comments by unnamed users be for they go live. | :01:34. | :01:40. | |
It could end the ability of readers to remain anonymous when they post | :01:41. | :01:44. | |
opinions. It is all over what has become a test case dating back to | :01:45. | :01:50. | |
2006. Delfi versus Estonia turns on a complaint from an owner defamed on | :01:51. | :01:57. | |
the website, which allows users to post anonymously. The site refused | :01:58. | :02:03. | |
to name the author of the comments, so the website itself was sued for | :02:04. | :02:07. | |
hosting the offending post, although it was taken down the day it | :02:08. | :02:10. | |
appeared. This comes hot on the heels of the EU's right to be | :02:11. | :02:14. | |
forgotten lore, giving people the right to have search results | :02:15. | :02:18. | |
hidden. Online, Europe seems to be turning in a very different | :02:19. | :02:22. | |
direction from most of the rest of the world, with Internet companies | :02:23. | :02:25. | |
under pressure to not just monitor comment at play judge and jury as to | :02:26. | :02:28. | |
whether it is lawful to publish it. Nigel Cassady, BBC News. Here to | :02:29. | :02:37. | |
discuss the issues at stake is technology journalist Rupert | :02:38. | :02:42. | |
Goodwins. What will the outcome be? It is a very difficult thing to say. | :02:43. | :02:48. | |
It was a perverse judgement in the first place. Most legal opinion I | :02:49. | :02:52. | |
have heard think it should be overturned. It is a remarkable | :02:53. | :02:56. | |
decision. If it does uphold the decision in the Estonian court, the | :02:57. | :03:01. | |
implications for the web? It will be very difficult to publish anonymous | :03:02. | :03:05. | |
comments of any sort. Anybody who allows people to put content on | :03:06. | :03:09. | |
their site, like Twitter, will have to hold back, it is to check they | :03:10. | :03:12. | |
are not defamatory before allowing them to be published. They will also | :03:13. | :03:16. | |
have to know the proper identity of everyone publishing, which is | :03:17. | :03:19. | |
extremely difficult to do. In terms of the sheer volume of comments, you | :03:20. | :03:23. | |
mentioned Twitter free sample, how on earth do you monitor that prior | :03:24. | :03:27. | |
to those comments being published? It is not physically possible. It is | :03:28. | :03:32. | |
not economically possible, it's not possible by any means. It is a very | :03:33. | :03:36. | |
strange decision from that point of view it will have to close down most | :03:37. | :03:40. | |
public discourse on the Internet and prevent anonymous discourse on the | :03:41. | :03:43. | |
Internet, which cannot believe is the court's intention. So if this | :03:44. | :03:49. | |
ruling is not upheld, what then would be the reasonable response of | :03:50. | :03:54. | |
a company in this situation where a defamatory or insightful comment is | :03:55. | :03:59. | |
posted on their site. There is a common practice, which is as soon as | :04:00. | :04:03. | |
you are informed about it, you take it down. That is what happened in | :04:04. | :04:06. | |
this case. It is then the responsibility of the person who | :04:07. | :04:09. | |
made the comment. Which is not perfect by any means, but it strikes | :04:10. | :04:13. | |
the best balance between freedom of expression on the Internet which is | :04:14. | :04:17. | |
incredibly important these days, and allowing people who are defamed | :04:18. | :04:21. | |
recourse. We have seen individuals being pursued, those who have put | :04:22. | :04:25. | |
through the comments. Absolutely, there are other ways to do it. And | :04:26. | :04:30. | |
the European guidelines, the European Court decision goes against | :04:31. | :04:33. | |
those guidelines. That makes it a very odd decision. Thank you for | :04:34. | :04:38. | |
your time. As soon as we hear more we will update you. The German | :04:39. | :04:44. | |
economy is booming, and more Germans are travelling than ever before. So | :04:45. | :04:47. | |
why are profits at the country's biggest airline, Lufthansa, in a | :04:48. | :04:50. | |
nosedive? Its new boss announces plans to restore the company's | :04:51. | :04:52. | |
fortunes later. Jeremy Howell reports. Last month, Lufthansa had | :04:53. | :05:00. | |
to cut its profit forecast for the next two years by a quarter. The | :05:01. | :05:04. | |
reason is it is being squeezed. On the one hand, Budget carriers like | :05:05. | :05:09. | |
easyJet have been undercutting it on price on flight within Europe. And | :05:10. | :05:14. | |
then there are the airlines from the Gulf Arab states like Etihad, which | :05:15. | :05:19. | |
have made moves into Europe recently to snap up a share of the market for | :05:20. | :05:23. | |
long haul flights to Asia. They have been buying stakes in Lufthansa's | :05:24. | :05:30. | |
local rival air Berlin, and in air Italia. In Germany there has been | :05:31. | :05:34. | |
speculation that Lufthansa itself might forge an alliance with an | :05:35. | :05:39. | |
airline from the Gulf, and expand its lucrative long haul business. Is | :05:40. | :05:44. | |
that worth a try? They seem to feel that if they were to join forces | :05:45. | :05:48. | |
with a Gulf carrier that would weaken the brand, and it would | :05:49. | :05:51. | |
certainly add complexity to the operation. They might have to give | :05:52. | :05:54. | |
away some of the financial upside, some of the profits, in the course | :05:55. | :05:59. | |
of forging such an alliance. So those are the disadvantages. The | :06:00. | :06:05. | |
advantages are of course that they are struggling to compete against | :06:06. | :06:08. | |
those carriers and it may be better for them to come to terms with | :06:09. | :06:11. | |
them, and to do so sooner rather than later. Its other recovery | :06:12. | :06:14. | |
option is to carry on doing what it has been doing for the past two | :06:15. | :06:17. | |
years, building up its no`frills subsidiary and trying to cut its | :06:18. | :06:23. | |
wage bill. This led to strikes earlier this year amongst staff. | :06:24. | :06:29. | |
Cost cuts are bound to prompt more strikes. But it may be the quickest | :06:30. | :06:33. | |
way that Lufthansa can turn itself around. In other news: BNP Paribas | :06:34. | :06:40. | |
will plead guilty to a charge of conspiracy in a New York court on | :06:41. | :06:43. | |
Wednesday. The guilty plea is part of a deal with the US department of | :06:44. | :06:47. | |
Justice. The French Bank was fined $9 billion for breaking US sanctions | :06:48. | :06:49. | |
against blacklisted countries such as Cuba. BNP Paribas has also | :06:50. | :06:52. | |
admitted filing false business records, and agreed to a temporary | :06:53. | :06:58. | |
ban on trading in US dollars. The record BNP fine is part of a | :06:59. | :07:01. | |
crackdown by US authorities on European banks who do business with | :07:02. | :07:04. | |
a select group of countries. US authorities are now turning their | :07:05. | :07:06. | |
attention to Germany's biggest lenders, Commerzbank and Deutsche. | :07:07. | :07:09. | |
According to the New York Times, Commerzbank could be fined at least | :07:10. | :07:11. | |
$500 million for transferring money on behalf of Sudan and Iran via its | :07:12. | :07:22. | |
US operations. Even God's bankers are no longer on the side of the | :07:23. | :07:26. | |
angels. The Vatican Bank is set to detail plans to overhaul its | :07:27. | :07:29. | |
business. It follows a series of scandals surrounding the financial | :07:30. | :07:31. | |
arm of the Roman Catholic Church, which wiped out most of its 70 | :07:32. | :07:35. | |
million euro profit last year. It is expected to shut down its asset | :07:36. | :07:37. | |
investment division and concentrate on processing church payments. US | :07:38. | :07:48. | |
Treasury Secretary Jack Lew is in China for talks with his opposite | :07:49. | :07:51. | |
number Wang Yang. Top of the agenda will be cybercrime. Rico Hizon joins | :07:52. | :07:54. | |
us from our Asia business hub in Singapore. Nice to see you. Tell us | :07:55. | :08:07. | |
more about these discussions. Indeed, both sides want to resume | :08:08. | :08:11. | |
Corporation, Sally, on fighting cyber espionage. They were at | :08:12. | :08:17. | |
loggerheads several months ago over hacking and Internet spying | :08:18. | :08:21. | |
allegations, when Washington charged five Chinese military officers with | :08:22. | :08:25. | |
hacking US companies. China has denied any wrongdoing, and the | :08:26. | :08:31. | |
Treasury Secretary has said he will pressure the mainland for speedier | :08:32. | :08:35. | |
economic reforms, pushing them to move towards a more market exchange | :08:36. | :08:39. | |
rate system, and do more to let their currency rise against the US | :08:40. | :08:43. | |
dollar. And US officials are optimistic they can do the Chinese | :08:44. | :08:50. | |
exchange rate with a foreign process will have an effect. It will touch | :08:51. | :08:54. | |
on a bilateral investment treaty which the Americans hope will ease | :08:55. | :09:00. | |
of Beijing's restrictions, allowing for a more even playing field for | :09:01. | :09:04. | |
American companies. Energy is also on the agenda, both sides pooling | :09:05. | :09:08. | |
resources, aiming to improve ties. And leading an international push to | :09:09. | :09:12. | |
mitigate climate change. But Sally, when you talk to some analysts, they | :09:13. | :09:16. | |
are quite sceptical about these stocks. `` these talks. They don't | :09:17. | :09:20. | |
expect much will be achieved, as relations have become more complex | :09:21. | :09:32. | |
as China has grown in power. Thank you for your company. I will see you | :09:33. | :09:44. | |
soon as we look through the papers. The head of the influential | :09:45. | :09:46. | |
children's charity the NSPCC has told the BBC that people who cover | :09:47. | :09:50. | |
up child abuse should face criminal prosecution. Peter Wanless says he | :09:51. | :09:55. | |
hopes the government will change the law to achieve this. It is a | :09:56. | :09:57. |