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Many things have happened since Wales last beat the All Blacks here at the home of Welsh rugby. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
Anywhere. Nearly 60 years, for example. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
But a few things remain imperishable. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
Take the name of the captain of Wales on that day in 1953. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
The man they called the Prince of Centres. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
COMMENTATOR | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
And how good was he? | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
Well, he was as successful as John Dawes. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
As thoughtful as Mike Gibson. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
As smooth as Jeremy Guscott. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
As robust as Philippe Sella. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:45 | |
He was the Brian O'Driscoll of his day, of any day. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:51 | |
He was the great, the truly great, Bleddyn Williams. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:55 | |
COMMENTATOR | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
My first recollection of the superstar was in the '50s | 0:01:05 | 0:01:09 | |
when they talked of Bleddyn. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
He was very, very special. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
Bleddyn Williams, his name, will live as long as rugby's been played. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:21 | |
For people of my generation, he was the best ever. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
He's still the best ever. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
History will judge Bleddyn Williams to be probably | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
the supreme centre of all time. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
It's 56 years since Wales last beat the All Blacks. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
Here is a man who did it twice in less than a month. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:44 | |
My father has now passed away, but if anyone asked him | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
what was his most memorable game for the All Blacks, 1953 in Cardiff stood out like a beacon. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:55 | |
CROWD SINGS | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
He was a great centre. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
The Prince of Centres. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
The Prince of Centres was born not into royalty | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
but into the large Williams family of Moy Road, Taff's Well, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:17 | |
a village just north of Cardiff. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:18 | |
Taff's Well - on the River Taff. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
And complete with its well of warm spring water. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
1923, an age of horse-drawn barges along the canals, | 0:02:25 | 0:02:29 | |
tickling trout in the river, | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
village life surrounded by iron works and quarries | 0:02:31 | 0:02:35 | |
on the fringe of the great coal port of Cardiff. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
He was a true son of Taff's Well. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:42 | |
I had the privilege once of meeting his mother, the dear old lady | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
that gave birth to all these children, including the 8 boys. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:49 | |
He grew up a great rugby player, both for Taff's Well, | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
he was spotted by a local teacher, | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
he got into Cardiff and well, the rest of it is history. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:02 | |
On the advice of Wilf Wooller, cricket captain of Glamorgan, | 0:03:03 | 0:03:07 | |
rugby centre for Wales, Bleddyn was awarded | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
a scholarship to Wooller's old school, Rydal in Colwyn Bay. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:13 | |
BOMBS EXPLODE | 0:03:18 | 0:03:19 | |
Consequently, this country is at war with Germany. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:24 | |
AIR RAID SIRENS WAIL | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
From Rydal, North Wales, and Cardiff, South Wales, to Phoenix, Arizona. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
Whatever was going to happen on the home front in rugby did not happen. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:34 | |
At least, not until the Second World War was over. Any rugby then was played in the services. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:38 | |
In this case, the Royal Air Force. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
Pilot Officer Williams joined up at the age of 19 in 1942. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:45 | |
And to get his wings, was posted to the desert | 0:03:45 | 0:03:49 | |
on the other side of the pond. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:50 | |
I was trained as a pilot in America and I qualified and came back | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
and I was going on to advanced flying school. But when I did go back, | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
Arnhem had taken place and they'd lost so many glider pilots, | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
and they had a surplus of us. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:04 | |
So, I was volunteered to become a glider pilot. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
So, we did the Rhine operation, we dropped about five miles in the German side of the Rhine. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:14 | |
But before I went on that, I'd been selected to play | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
for Great Britain against the Dominions, as they were called then. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:21 | |
The game was to be called at Leicester. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:23 | |
The game was a week after we'd landed in Germany, | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
but on the Friday before the game was on the Saturday, | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
Hugh Bartlett was my CO | 0:04:30 | 0:04:32 | |
and after the war, he become captain of Sussex...cricket. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
So, he said to me on the Friday morning, | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
"Ble, aren't you supposed to be playing at Leicester tomorrow?" | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
I said, "Yeah, but fat chance I've got." | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
Well, he said, "Pack your bags." | 0:04:44 | 0:04:45 | |
Within about an hour, I was on a Jeep, | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
and I was driven to the Rhine. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
Now, I went across... Going the other way. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
Pick up more troops. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
They met me there with another Jeep, they drove me to Eindhoven in Holland. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
Flew me from there to Brize Norton in Oxford. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
I stayed the night. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
I went...I travelled to Leicester the following day, | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
and played, and we won the game. And I scored a try. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
-Not even Hitler gets in the way of... -Exactly what I was going to say. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:15 | |
The war was incidental to rugby football. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
'We may allow ourselves a brief period of rejoicing. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:23 | |
'Today is victory in Europe day.' | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
1946, the end of the Second World War, he'd served as an RAF pilot, | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
come back into civvy street, put his boots on again, | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
and Leeds Rugby League Club | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
sent their general manager to South Wales, | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
and the general manager was one Edward Waring. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
And Waring came down, spoke to Bleddyn | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
and offered him £6,000. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
Now, £6,000 in 1946 | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
according to the experts is the equivalent of about seven million pounds. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:55 | |
He turned it down. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:56 | |
He said to me, "I almost went, | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
"but I never wanted to go for two reasons. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
"One, I love rugby union. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
"Two, I'd had a scholarship to Rydal school in North Wales. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:09 | |
"And I felt that had I cashed in my chips to go to rugby league, | 0:06:09 | 0:06:14 | |
"I would have been letting them down." | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
He stayed in amateur union in South Wales, | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
but not just at any old club. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
Straight after the war, Cardiff entered a golden age, | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
playing a glittering brand of rugby that drew admirers from all walks of life, | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
including a wing forward turned actor, Richard Burton. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
We'd be wrong, however, not to distinguish the gradations, | 0:06:34 | 0:06:38 | |
and, after the Second War, a Cardiff side attracted so much talent | 0:06:38 | 0:06:42 | |
that it created a style of its own. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
The mental picture that I have of Bleddyn, going back to the 1947 season, | 0:06:44 | 0:06:48 | |
the wonderful 1948 season, | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
when he set the club record for scoring tries, | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
was always when Cardiff were, say, attacking from the halfway line, | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
what you could pretty well depend on | 0:06:58 | 0:07:00 | |
is that Bleddyn would come off his right foot | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
to beat his opposite number in the centre, | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
then he'd come off his right foot again | 0:07:04 | 0:07:05 | |
to beat the open side wing forward who was coming across | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
to try and nail him, having been told, "You will have to nail Williams," | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
and then as the fullback came across, he'd come off his right foot again. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
It was a triple side-step off his right foot. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
But one distinguishing, significant feature about him, | 0:07:18 | 0:07:22 | |
above all else, in comparison to others, | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
was the side-step, the jink. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
Bleddyn could do it and give a masterclass | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
on how to beat an opponent by the sleight of his legs, as it were, | 0:07:29 | 0:07:33 | |
as opposed to sleight of hand. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
And leaving the opponent desperate in his wake. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:40 | |
And then the posts would be right in front of him, | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
but instead of taking the try himself, | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
he would then show, absolutely to perfection, how to deliver a pass to the wing. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:50 | |
In those days, it was much more difficult to pass the ball, the old leather ball. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:55 | |
You used to have to sway your body away | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
and you'd pass and move the weight of your body away, | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
just to make sure you got a perfectly weighted pass into the wing, | 0:07:59 | 0:08:03 | |
just here, below the stomach, so all the wing had to do then | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
was catch it with two hands and run in. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
This was no one-man team. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
A one-family team, perhaps. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
Of the eight Williams brothers, | 0:08:13 | 0:08:15 | |
seven at some stage played for Cardiff. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
Bleddyn has had an affinity with the Cardiff Rugby Club | 0:08:17 | 0:08:21 | |
for well over 60 years. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
Indeed, the family, I played with several of them, | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
Elwyn and Tony. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
It was always something that Bleddyn encouraged us to do, | 0:08:28 | 0:08:33 | |
to play rugby, | 0:08:33 | 0:08:38 | |
and also to make sure that we did the things correctly. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:43 | |
But he always associated himself and been seen on a regular basis | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
at the Cardiff Rugby Club. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
He endeared himself to the club. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
It was his beloved club and he belonged there. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:59 | |
Nowhere else except for Cardiff. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
There was another brother. Not of the same blood, | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
but a soulmate, Dr Jack Matthews, centre partner. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:13 | |
Hard, tough Dr Jack and Bleddyn, the perfect pairing. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:18 | |
Him and Jack, they were an inseparable pair. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
I mean, from the playing fields of the '50s | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
right through almost until earlier this season, | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
you didn't see one without the other. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
We call them frequently here the Dynamic Duo | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
because they always seemed to be together. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:38 | |
I can well remember, as a 19-year-old, | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
having been chosen for the Welsh Secondary Schools, | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
to play in the centre at the same time I was about to make my Cardiff debut as a scrum half. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:50 | |
I asked both him and Dr Jack for some advice on centre play. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:56 | |
They both looked at one another, had a laugh, | 0:09:56 | 0:09:58 | |
and said, you know, but they still gave me some great advice. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:02 | |
What a contrast. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
Bleddyn, who was all grace and artistry | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
and Jack, the perfect foil, the man who would have gone through a brick wall, | 0:10:07 | 0:10:12 | |
sheer power in the days long before there was any such thing as a gym monkey. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:17 | |
The amazing thing was their scissors move. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
I'd never seen it before | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
and I'm pretty sure that was the first time | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
that the scissors and dummy scissors move was instigated and played. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:30 | |
He knew what I was going to do and I knew what he was going to do. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
It was something between us, I don't know what it was. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
The understanding came from above because we had no coaches. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
We used to talk a lot on the field, | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
weigh up the opposition and then we'd work it all out accordingly. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:47 | |
That's what one had to do in those days. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
I never had a hospital pass from him! | 0:10:49 | 0:10:53 | |
International rugby had been on hold for seven years. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:57 | |
Now aged 25, Bleddyn was more than ready for it in 1947. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:02 | |
Well, he was a role model because he could do everything. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
He was an outstanding attacker, outstanding defender. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
He had all the attributes necessary and I think, probably as a youngster, | 0:11:10 | 0:11:15 | |
we all sort of looked at him as the model centre, | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
we wanted to be a Bleddyn Williams. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
The centre was the showpiece, probably still is, of rugby. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:26 | |
As kids, I might have wanted to be John Charles or Duncan Edwards, | 0:11:26 | 0:11:33 | |
they were the heroes of the day, | 0:11:33 | 0:11:34 | |
and Bleddyn Williams was very much part of that. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
I remember telling my PE master then, Bill Samuel, | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
that I wanted to be a centre like Bleddyn Williams. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
He was a star, a natural selection now for the Lions, but there was a problem. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:49 | |
As Wales strode towards the Triple Crown in 1950, | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
and as that year's Lions tour to New Zealand approached, he was injured. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
I was in plaster for three months, but I had to prove my fitness. | 0:11:56 | 0:12:00 | |
And it was proved on the day at Bath when Wales played France | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
the same day at Cardiff Arms Park, it was Cliff Morgan's first game for the first 15, and he said to me - | 0:12:03 | 0:12:09 | |
cheeky little so-and-so - he said, "One way to prove yourself fit - score a try in the last minute." | 0:12:09 | 0:12:15 | |
And he said "you'll do it". | 0:12:15 | 0:12:17 | |
So off we went on the field. Two minutes from the end, Morgan said "Are you ready?" I said "Yes." | 0:12:17 | 0:12:22 | |
He went outside the fly-half, inside the full-back, gave me the ball, I scored a try under the post. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:27 | |
"Williams is fit!" | 0:12:27 | 0:12:28 | |
The Ceramic arrives in Wellington, bringing to New Zealand | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
the first British rugby team to tour this country since 1930. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
During its three-month stay, the team will play 23 matches... | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
I was fortunate enough to go on a Lions tour in '71, and we were away what I thought was a long time, | 0:12:38 | 0:12:44 | |
cos we had to play 26 matches over something like 13 weeks. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:48 | |
But this particular '50 Lions tour, | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
they seemed to be away for an eternity. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
And it's amazing today, to think, I've just come back from a Lions tour lasting, what, six, | 0:12:54 | 0:13:00 | |
six and a half weeks? Whereas theirs was six months. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
It took them six weeks through the Panama Canal to get to New Zealand, | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
and then they'd do the round the world trip and come back via Suez, another six weeks. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:14 | |
To think of going away for that length of time really is quite extraordinary. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:19 | |
This, the 5th British team to tour New Zealand, is composed entirely of players of international experience. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:24 | |
Of its 30 members, 3 come from England, 5 from Scotland, 9 from Ireland and 13 from Wales. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:29 | |
There were 13 Welshmen because they won the Triple Crown in 1950. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:34 | |
Now, we had no coach, so the four captains were the coach. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
Karl Mullen from Ireland was our captain, | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
but Bleddyn was the vice captain. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
And they actually did most of the training with us, and the management, and Bleddyn of course | 0:13:43 | 0:13:49 | |
captained the side on many occasions when sometimes Karl Mullen was hurt at one time. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:55 | |
But Bleddyn had a magnificent tour. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
Throughout their tour the British Isles team has played fast, open football | 0:13:58 | 0:14:03 | |
that has drawn record crowds all over New Zealand. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
The ball goes out to the British Isles backs. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
The ball goes along the line to Williams, who kicks for touch | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
and finds it with a good one near the corner. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
One day, I wasn't playing, we were having a provincial match in the North Island. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:20 | |
We were losing up to a few minutes of the game, and we weren't meant to lose this game, | 0:14:20 | 0:14:25 | |
and I'm sitting in the stands thinking, "Surely we're not going to lose this game?" | 0:14:25 | 0:14:29 | |
Just in the last few minutes of the game, Bleddyn Williams broke through, | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
touched it underneath the posts and we won the game. I remember going in afterwards, | 0:14:33 | 0:14:38 | |
talking to him, just saying, "Thanks, Bleddyn. That was really magnificent." | 0:14:38 | 0:14:43 | |
Athletic Park, Wellington, and the British Isles and New Zealand rugby union teams | 0:14:46 | 0:14:50 | |
take the field for the third of four tests. With the first game drawn and the second won by New Zealand, | 0:14:50 | 0:14:56 | |
this may be the vital match of the rubber. British Isles win the toss, | 0:14:56 | 0:15:00 | |
Scott kicks off for New Zealand and the referee orders a scrum at the halfway. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:04 | |
It would be another 21 years before John Dawes' Lions would win a series in New Zealand | 0:15:07 | 0:15:12 | |
for the first and only time. But the 1950 tourists went down in history as one of the strongest teams, | 0:15:12 | 0:15:18 | |
certainly one of the most admired. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
Cuts out two men and hands it to Bleddyn Williams who races down the field on his own! | 0:15:21 | 0:15:26 | |
I can remember Graham Henry telling me that his father had told him, | 0:15:26 | 0:15:30 | |
having seen the 1950 Lions team in New Zealand, | 0:15:30 | 0:15:34 | |
that Bleddyn and Jack Matthews, the best centre pair he had ever seen. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:38 | |
Full time comes, with the final score 6-3 to New Zealand... | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
It doesn't really matter which era you're in, if you're a great player you could have played in any | 0:15:41 | 0:15:46 | |
generation, any era, and had he been on the Lions tour that's just been, he'd have been star of that side. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:54 | |
Well, he'd created a great name for himself, showing the New Zealand chaps what a Welsh sidestepper | 0:15:55 | 0:16:03 | |
was like, as opposed to, shall I say, the Maori sidestep, | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
which always take the straight line, the straight route to any line and no deviation. But he did that, | 0:16:06 | 0:16:13 | |
and succeeded, and then came home as if that was not enough for him. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:18 | |
He came back and in 1953 of course, famously, he played against the All Blacks twice. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:25 | |
1953. It was a famous year all round. Post-war austerity | 0:16:26 | 0:16:32 | |
suddenly was brightened by a sense of a fresh start. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
Of scaling new heights. In sport, there was the Matthews Final, | 0:16:37 | 0:16:41 | |
Sir Stanley at his dazzling best. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:45 | |
And the Ashes were reclaimed for the first time in 19 years. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:49 | |
And then, late in the year, the mighty All Blacks came on tour. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
Huh! | 0:16:53 | 0:16:54 | |
People talk about the fact that it's now 56 years since Wales last beat the All Blacks, | 0:16:54 | 0:17:00 | |
and here is a man who did it twice in less than a month, each time as captain. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:05 | |
Cardiff's golden age was supposed to be over. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
The great team of the late '40s had turned into something more faltering | 0:17:10 | 0:17:14 | |
in the early '50s. But not on this day. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
We went to see them play at Llanelli, and we found a little flaw in their game. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:22 | |
The idea was that we would throw the ball long into the line-out, | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
tie up their back row, and then we felt, at the time, | 0:17:26 | 0:17:30 | |
that man-for-man, we were much better than they, behind the scrummage. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
In the dressing room it was all a little bit tense | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
but Bleddyn then spoke and eased our minds. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:41 | |
He said, "We can do this easily. We've got the team here to do this, | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
"we've got the half-backs, we've got the backs." | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
And he turned and said, "It's up to you, boys." | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
And...we responded. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
Bleddyn always used to say they were underrated up forwards, | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
but he always to say, "Get us 40% of the ball and we'll do the rest." | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
'Completely undeterred by this, | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
'however, Cardiff kicked off, and proceeded to show, | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
'in a thrilling match, how the tourists can be beaten.' | 0:18:06 | 0:18:12 | |
CHEERING | 0:18:12 | 0:18:13 | |
'Within eight minutes, Cardiff were on the attack, | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
'with Thomas sending Williams away on the wing. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
'A kick ahead was followed up strongly, | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
'and from a scramble near the line, | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
'Judd made the touchdown.' | 0:18:23 | 0:18:24 | |
CHEERING | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
'Cardiff, still with a couple of points in hand, continue to press the tourists.' | 0:18:30 | 0:18:35 | |
Cardiff scored a second try through wing Gwyn Rowlands. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
Final score - Cardiff - 8, New Zealand - 3... | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
cue celebrations all round. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
It was tremendous. The reactions - wonderful. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:50 | |
I think we owned Cardiff...we walked up and down the streets, you know, | 0:18:50 | 0:18:54 | |
people were coming up and patting you on the back, | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
and shaking you by the hand, and it was quite remarkable. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
Cardiff had the better side on the day, | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
and they fully acknowledge that. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
And it was a better game than the other one, as a matter of fact. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
CHEERING | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
The rivalry between Wales and the All Blacks is as intense now as it ever was. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:23 | |
In fact, today's intensity is born of what it was then. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:28 | |
THEY CHANT | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
THEY SING THE WELSH NATIONAL ANTHEM | 0:19:47 | 0:19:53 | |
When New Zealand came over, they were 2-1 down in the series, | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
they're probably about 23 up now in the series, | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
but, at that time, they had lost in 1905, they'd won in 1924, | 0:19:59 | 0:20:04 | |
they'd lost by one point in 1935...and.... | 0:20:04 | 0:20:09 | |
they were thirsting for victory in 1953. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
As All Blacks, we speak about that game. You know, you're told, | 0:20:12 | 0:20:16 | |
in no uncertain terms, as an All Black, | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
when you win, celebrate success. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
But park it very quickly, | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
and remember your losses more than your wins. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
Well, it was something special, | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
because I was youngster of just 12 years of age. I went with my father | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
to the game. And we were standing at the end where it was all standing, | 0:20:32 | 0:20:37 | |
but, typically Welsh, we were all handed right down | 0:20:37 | 0:20:41 | |
to the front, so the boys could sit on the front row. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
So we had, really, a prime seat. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
My father, who's now passed away, you know, | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
if anyone asks him what was his most memorable game for the All Blacks - | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
1953 in Cardiff stood out like a beacon. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
Just three weeks after Cardiff's victory, | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
the same place, the same opponents and the same try-scorer - | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
Sid Judd scoring after the same sort of forward rush, | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
just as he had done for Cardiff. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
'A wild scramble followed, and Judd dived over to score.' | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
CHEERING | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
New Zealand recovered, and the score stood at eight-all. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
'Someone tries to force his way over, | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
'but restraining hands claw him down.' | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
If Cardiff's win was purer, more expressive of a certain style, | 0:21:22 | 0:21:26 | |
Wales' win was gutsy, improvised. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
Down to 14 men, stand-in wing Clem Thomas launched a kick, | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
and it was gathered by Ken Jones. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
If Cardiff's win was the cue for celebrations, | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
now the whole country went mad. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
CHEERING | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
It was a great achievement, really, because we had no coaches at all. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:46 | |
I still pinch myself, really, you know, | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
to captain two sides against them within a month, | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
which is rather nice. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:53 | |
What we didn't appreciate was the enormity of the victory. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
To us, it was the All Blacks, something special, | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
we had never seen anyone from another country before. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
And to come over and have Wales beat them | 0:22:03 | 0:22:05 | |
was something which just sticks in your memory. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
-COMMENTATOR: -'And Rowlands converts the winning try. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
'Wales have triumphed...' | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
We're not expected to lose, which puts a degree of pressure on, | 0:22:14 | 0:22:18 | |
but if the All Blacks lose, it's a national disaster. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
The Prime Minister of New Zealand Jim Bolger once said to me, | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
"When the All Blacks win, I'd love to be the All Black captain, | 0:22:24 | 0:22:28 | |
"but when they lose, I'd much rather be the Prime Minister of New Zealand," | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
which puts it in perspective. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
Whenever I look back at Bleddyn Williams' record | 0:22:34 | 0:22:38 | |
and realise that he not only played against the All Blacks, | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
but he captained Wales and Cardiff both to victories | 0:22:41 | 0:22:46 | |
and, dare I say it, they were celebrated annually | 0:22:46 | 0:22:50 | |
up until very recently and why shouldn't they? | 0:22:50 | 0:22:54 | |
One of the great joys I got out of being an All Black | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
was the pleasure it gave to Mum and Dad | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
and they went to every game I toured, played, | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
except in 1989, we toured Ireland and Wales, | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
Mum had to go by herself because Dad would not go back to Wales. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:11 | |
Time was running short on the field. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:15 | |
He would retire with 22 caps, having captained Wales on five occasions, | 0:23:15 | 0:23:20 | |
and won five times. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
He really should have gone on the Lions tour of 1955 to South Africa, | 0:23:22 | 0:23:28 | |
but somebody decreed that nobody over the age of 30 should be selected. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:32 | |
The Prince of Centres deserved better than to be a victim of ageism. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:36 | |
Perhaps it was time to look beyond the playing side of rugby | 0:23:36 | 0:23:40 | |
There was a trail being blazed. What to do next? | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
Follow his young fly half, Cliff Morgan, and go into the media. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
..Have had very much better in the first half. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
In fact, it's been a very disappointing game... | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
Because of Bleddyn's fame and his wonderful personality, | 0:23:57 | 0:24:01 | |
he was able to bring to that little studio | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
in a chapel down in Broadway in Cardiff | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
some of the most famous people you can imagine. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
One day, he turned up with Stanley Baker, the actor, Sir Stanley, | 0:24:09 | 0:24:14 | |
who admired Bleddyn, as we all did. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
I have Bleddyn's autobiography | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
and it automatically opens at page 37 | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
because he says that if I hadn't fallen for the lure of tinsel and paint and so on, | 0:24:23 | 0:24:28 | |
I might have made a very nippy wing forward for Wales. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:32 | |
However, I think he was being over-generous. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
SINGING | 0:24:34 | 0:24:38 | |
Bleddyn became the presenter, with his blazer, | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
presenting Welsh Sports Parade on a Tuesday night. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
Tonight's Sports Parade comes from a very famous sporting centre here in Wales. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:51 | |
It was very pioneering and Bleddyn, I have no doubt about it, | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
was very much part of how we established ourselves. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
We could pick defensive players, as we have in the past, especially in the centre, | 0:24:57 | 0:25:03 | |
-but I would favour people like Gerald Davies... -I'm going to interrupt you | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
because we've just heard that the team is through now. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
Full back, Teddy Price... | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
Stuart Watkins, right wing. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:15 | |
He was the image of BBC Wales television sport. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
and he carried that mantle very well indeed. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
And then he wrote about the game for over 30 years for the Sunday People. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:28 | |
From Moy Road in Taff's Well on the edge of Cardiff | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
to the centre of the city, to the centre of the rugby world, | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
the Prince of Centres, | 0:25:36 | 0:25:38 | |
and beyond, to writing and broadcasting | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
and further still, to enjoying a quiet pint in Cardiff Athletic Club | 0:25:41 | 0:25:45 | |
with his soul mate Dr Jack, | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
or quietly watching from the back of the press box, | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
the retired, retiring Bleddyn Williams. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
But what peaks he had mounted in the middle. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
The twin peaks of '53. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
They set him apart. They defined a marvellous life. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:02 | |
I was at a club awards ceremony in Mid Wales | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
and Bleddyn Williams was the guest of honour. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:11 | |
The club president introduced him and there was a polite round of applause. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:16 | |
I said, "Hang on. This is the player | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
"the centre of all centres, | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
"who beat the All Blacks not once, but twice, in 1953, | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
"who was captain on the last day Wales beat New Zealand." | 0:26:24 | 0:26:28 | |
So, for Bleddyn Williams, not a polite round of applause, | 0:26:28 | 0:26:32 | |
but farewell to one of the greatest players of all time. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:36 | |
# I've been wasting today | 0:26:40 | 0:26:44 | |
# I could just run away | 0:26:44 | 0:26:48 | |
# Out where the west winds come | 0:26:48 | 0:26:56 | |
# With someone like you | 0:26:56 | 0:27:00 | |
# A pal good and true | 0:27:00 | 0:27:05 | |
# I'd like to leave it all behind and go and hide | 0:27:05 | 0:27:13 | |
# Someplace that's known | 0:27:13 | 0:27:17 | |
# To God alone | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
# Just a spot to call our own | 0:27:22 | 0:27:29 | |
# We'll find perfect peace | 0:27:29 | 0:27:33 | |
# Where joys never cease | 0:27:33 | 0:27:37 | |
# Out there beneath a kindly sky | 0:27:37 | 0:27:44 | |
# We'll build a sweet little nest | 0:27:45 | 0:27:49 | |
# Somewhere in the West | 0:27:49 | 0:27:53 | |
# And let the rest of the world go by. # | 0:27:53 | 0:28:02 | |
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