2012 European Cross Country Championships

Welcome to our final athletics coverage of the year and what a

calendar 2012 will make. It is the start of a new season and a new

Olympic cycle. There is no more road to London now. It is the road

to Rio. The European Cross Country Championships has always been a

happy hunting ground for the British team.

The Brits have topped the medal table for the last last two years.

Ireland's Fionnuala Britton has a title to defend and she will face

stiff opposition. The men's race features last year's

champion and no European Cross Country Championships would be

complete without the Ukraine. We will cast our minds forward to

next year and get Steve Cram's view on who might be the faces to look

out for. The championships are billed as

taking place in Budapest. The course is outside the capital.

There is snow on the ground. There is sub-zero conditions. It will be

a challenge for the athletes and the animals too!

First, let's introduce our special guest this afternoon, she won in

championship a couple of times and plenty more besides.

And she is is taking them on. Paula Radcliffe, champion of Europe. The

Commonwealth champion, this is the gold medal she wanted and she wins

Personality of the year, ladies and gentlemen, Paula Radcliffe.

A new world record for Paula Radcliffe. A fantastic performance.

The best yet. Paula Radcliffe is changing the

rules. She is bringing that women's world record closer and closer to

the men. Paula Radcliffe becomes Paula Radcliffe storming down the

finishing straight and wins the New York City Marathon, one of the best

races you will ever see. It is hard to believe that Sports

Personality of the Year, when you won it, was ten years ago. You look

young and glamorous. It is great to have you here. Some amazing

memories. It must be special to look back at all of that? Yes, it

is very special looking back and I'm kind of at that cross roads now,

I have come off a big surgery, coming up on four months ago and I

don't want my career to be finished and I'm working on keeping going

and adding more and more to that memory bank that I have, but there

are some special memories there. What have you had done? And how are

you getting on. Paula is looking gingerly, when she is walking along,

how are you getting on? It has been a slow and hard process. I had

three foot operations in one across the mid-foot area, including bones

taken away and cartilage repair tried to be done on the inside of

my foot. Two of them have taken really well and the cartilage is at

that stage where we are waiting to see did it come or did did did it

not? The goal is to be back by Christmas and building up to racing

next year. Any idea with a date? I I would

love to be in London, but that's going to be close and I think I'm

more likely looking at a 10 kilometre race, building up to a

marathon in the autumn. How tough has this year been? We

saw the highlights of of your career, the gap is the Olympic

Games, when we think back to Athens and with Beijing. How tough was it

to make the decision to pull out of London and to to watch it on

television? It wasn't actually a decision that I could have. I

couldn't even walk come the race. So it was really taken out of my

hands. We tried everything at least I can look back and say, "There was

nothing that could have enabled my foot to get through that race." We

tried everything and it didn't work, but the hardest time ever in my

career. Happening once in an Olympics is bad luck, but happening

twice and three times, it broke my heart.

We have got the pictures there. It seems cruel to show them, it wasn't

my idea. Did you watch it? I did watch it in a hotel room crying. I

couldn't face being out on the streets, but I was glad that I had

the strength to come to London and to watch the Olympics and to go

into the stadium. I think London did an amazing job and the Games

makers were superb and the athletes performed. I was glad to be part of

that in some respect, even though I couldn't be part of it.

You said it is touch and go perhaps whether you get back to racing at

all. How important do you think it is to finish on two feet running

rather than to look back and say, "That was the end in London.".

is important for me and my pride. The swaying that I I ended up in

London, where I was struggling to walk, and where I am not back to

yet, I would settle to run around with the children and play play

around with them, but the competitive side of me is still

slogging away hard, cross training, doing the rehab exercises because I

want to be able to keep running in ten years for the fun of it and for

the pleasure, but I want to be able to finish a race and finish my

career and finish a race. People might say that perhaps your

your strength is is also your weakness, you are so single minded

that you are going to go out and win every time, do you have to

change, are you ambition is perhaps to get back into racing? I think as

your career goes on and you change. If I look back to where I was in

200 and 2003, probably where Murray is now, in your mind you are

invincible and in your opponent's mind sometimes you are, as your

career goes on, you know the most important is getting yourself back

to that mindset so the others can believe it and you know and

understand that your body is more vulnerable and you had your peak

time, but the base competitor who thinks she is 18 and trying to run

as as she can is never going to be gone in me.

Thank you, Paula. We are going to head out to Budapest. We can look

at the races that happened earlier on. Steve Cram describes the action.

The women's junior race which Great Britain owns, three individual

individual runners. The defending champion who won this title last

year, all thee of them are coached by Mick Woods and a strong British

by Mick Woods and a strong British team. Jen Walsh was very close to

the leader. Minus 6 Celsius, not all of the athletes are able to

cope with the conditions, and there was good packing from the British

team. Serbia's athlete has quite got on the podium. For a long time

it looked as if that was going to follow the script. For a highly the

Serbian looked very, very tired. The two of them well ahead of the

rest of the field. As they approached the final stages in a

slight downhill section in this twisty, turny course, the Serbian

found extra. It was used to good effect over the last 400 meters.

There was nothing, absolutely nothing, the defending champion

could do. And once she was in sight of the finish, she was never to be

headed. After winning a silver in the past two years, it was obvious

she prepared for this event and wasn't phased by these conditions.

The Gold Medallist Amelia Terzic. It was a good run and behind her

some really good performances. Annabel Mason ran particularly well

to come into fifth place and was backed up with Jen Wap Wal Walsh.

A more open race in the junior mens. No outstanding favourites. Great

Britain were hoping that they could get some individual on to the

rostrum, but I am not sure who that would be. The trials which are are

held in Liverpool were on a muddier course and of course, cross-country

you get different conditions in the winner and this is different to

what they faced in Liverpool. As things started to settle down,

rather surprising - James Wilkinson of Great Britain had a good race.

James Wilkinson stayed strong. As though the first tworks there was

no doubt about -- two, there was no doubt about gold and silver, James

Wilkinson produced a storming finish to clinch the gold medal.

The team performance performance was one, they were hoping they

Some more medals for the British team. Brendan has joined us. Let's

pick up from Paula and I finished on the chat. As you get towards the

end of your career, maybe changing your ambitions, finding a different

way, I guess to compete? Well, thinking back, I can't remember

what it was like then. For Paula, I understand, I mean the Olympics, I

felt for her when I knew she was getting ready and six weeks

beforehand, she was in really good shape and the Olympics was coming

and it was a chance and it was in London and then when that

disappeared and the operations and so on and so fort, I think it is --

fort, I think it is a situation only she can tell, but you've got

to agree that it would be wonderful to see Paula go out of the race, a

descent race where she is actually competitive in some shape or form,

whatever distance, it doesn't really matter, 10,000, half

marathon, marathon, me and the rest of the British public would hate

hate to think we have seen the last of Paula.

You haven't! Knowing what you are like. Take a bet? Let's talk about

the European Cross Country Championships. How much do the

conditions afet the athletes and I guess, some some prefer dry

conditions and some would like that? I love running in conditions

like that. I remember so many times doing cross-country in the snow. My

junior cross-country title was in conditions to that. You need to be

comfortable. You don't need to be running with reputation. They need

to be sure of that food wear, have the -- footwear, have the right

spikes so they can run up and down the hills with total confidence. It

is a different style. A long loping style on a course like that doesn't

work as well as the choppier high left.

You suffer with asthma and the cold mustn't be great? It is, but they

will have warmed up adequately. I think the big thing with asthma in

conditions like that is making sure you warm up and you start gradually

maybe with a scar of over your -- - - scarf over your mouth.

Brendan, we have Fionnuala Britton back to defend her title. She had a

great battle last year with Felix of Spain? She had an interesting

summer. She made progress after the winter. She looks as if she will be

a great cross-country runner, I wonder if she will be as good a

track runner. Nobody has defended the title before and she is in with

a chance. She is running well. She ran good races recent ly. She is a

class athlete and it would be great to see her do well.

Paula is going to head to the far today have struggled with the

underfoot conditions, as the guys were saying, it is a case of first

of all making sure you are warm before you start. We are seeing a

few people not managing to get the temperature up at all. Minus six

Celsius. And then coping a really hard underfoot scene here. It is

one they would have expected. To make a point, all these teams have

had their preparations affected by travelling to bud pa pest, the

airport was -- Budapest, the airport was closed because of a

fire. A lot had to make changes to their plans. The British team ended

up flying to Vienna and getting a bus from there to Budapest. They

all arrived safely. So far, so good. Great Britain have such a good

pedigree in these championships. The senior women though is an area,

which despite the successs in the past, despite the likes of Paula,

one who might struggle to find some individual success here today.

One or two early flurrys to the front in the earlier races have not

proved to be that successful. The laps they are going to run here, I

will try and explain to you. It is not always easy to pick it out. It

is a beautiful setting, this outdoor museum, tenkms north-west

of Budapest. They have 500 metres after the

start. Four of them to negotiate and four longer gaps, which are

roughly 400 metres each. The total distance is 8,000 metres.

Around about five miles. Not too hilly. A drop down to the far

section and they climb back up to the start line. Kind of a very slow,

gradual climb up, when they are on the long lap and then a nice gentle

down-hill run to the finish line. Start to pick out one or two names,

was Belete. A lot of these women race against each other regularly.

The cross-country season is under way. Events particularly through

the last four or five weeks, but in warmer climates, such as Spain and

other venues. It is a day which is about horses for courses. Who can

run well in these conditions. Britton, there she is - has had a

good winter so far. She has not had it all her own way.

Ejjafini, of Italy is a name which is coming familiar.

Some of the contenders, and indeed the French will be hoping - going

through the pitch, Duarte may be someone who will figure as well. I

can see Moreira there. A little difficult to follow them

around the course, as I said, with the short lap and the long lap.

Paula had made it to the commentary box. Sometimes you have to modify a

bit, particularly in the early stages, when you are not running

flat-out, but modifying the stride length and how you run on this type

of surface. It's something not everybody manages to do. Absolutely.

If you think back to the under-20 race and how Emelia was side to

side on her style. More relaxed, up and down, and it

seems to work better. A lot is confidence as well and being sure

have the right footing. That lack of fear can help a lot too. I am

sure you can see the transponders. In these championships, through the

six events, they are hoping to go beyond the 100 medals. Teams and

individuals at these championships. Considering they only started in

1994 - it's not a bad record, is it? It's very good. I think the

strength of all the European countries, ahead of France and I

think it just shows we staged the inaugural in 1994 and have

continued to support it very well. The question of whether the under-

23 race should still be part of the championships at this level was

introduced as more of a stepping stone at world level. Is it really

needed here? It will still go on. The two smallest fields have been

very proud of the fact they 56 had more entries. The two which had the

least were the under-23s and senior women. Why on earth they don't put

them together, I am not sure. Those under the-23s are capable of

winning in the senior women events as well. The iner with of the

under-23 race would have probably been up there in the senior race. I

think it does certainly, from a have us of having a shot of wining

the team race. You can see Caryl Jones on the left-hand-side.

Did really well in the Great North Run. Performed well as in the half

world marathon championships as well. A surprise to see her in the

team, but when you run that well across all surfaces you cannot help

yourself. Rosie Smith, not back in the team

since she was a junior, a good few years ago. Emily Wicks and Katrina

Wootton. Hopes that if not an individual medal, that certainly

the team can run well enough to pick up a med until the team race.

The French will be strong. The top four finishers are the four who

count for the team race. Just taking a while for anyone to

push on here. Fionnuala Britton is at the front. Look at Caryl Jones -

it looks as if she wants to rush on a bit. It looks as if it is a

comfortable pace. Yes, she looks very comfortable on it. I don't

think Louise is looking so comfortable. She probably would

have been better on a muder, turned up course T way this has worked out

today - because the temperatures are so subzero, although it is

rutted, it is hard on the ground. They are running pretty quickly.

Fionnuala Britton has been training. Here she comes... You get respect

when you win, but you have pressure to do it. It's not easy. You have

to go into every race the same way and take every race one race at a

time and look at it the same way as the race last year and see what

happened then. We were not sure when the organisers would play any

interviews. When she was talking about Fionnuala Britton, up she

pops! There's been a fair of the British

squad who have been up there and training. There'll be another bunch

- in fact some have stayed out - there's another bun nch January.

It's a major part of any endurance athletes preparation, if of course

you can get somebody to get you there.

And if you can get easily in there as well. So, some of thoseing back

-- some of those coming back. I don't know if anybody has gone and

come back. The whole team's travel plans were disrupted with the

closure of the airport. Some people's races will have been

thrown off by that. Hopefully not too many. They did seem to get

there in plenty of time to get a look at the course. Fionnuala

Britton is following in the footsteps of Katrina McKern.

More we may see a move to the marathon at some point.

Dulce Felix letting her know she is a force to be reckoned with too.

lot of these women know each other very well.

And Felix, perhaps the favourite to win here, but it was at the

European track championships, the two of them - I think the last two

they raced each other, Britain missed out on a medal.

Jo Pavey not able to contend with the Portuguese athlete in the

contending stages. Starting to settle down. Rosie Smith moving in

a bit. She's been training with Jen Walsh.

Jen is at University. She was in the junior race. You saw that a few

minutes ago. Rosie is coming back to good form. She was in the team

as a junior. Bark bark going through the picture

-- Baker going through the picture. Louise Damen is struggling further

back. Louise was born with a dislocated hip. It is probably

unfortunately going to mean she's less at home on such a rutted and

uneven changing surface as she S she's the only one - I cannot pick

her up there. The rest of the team are doing very, very well.

This venue is one of the places you should vis it if you are ever in

this part of the -- visit if you are ever in this part of the world.

I will tell this story to embarrass Paula. The statistician in

conversation with a man who is the director of the museum, said, yes,

he thought it would be a good idea to have races here because they

wanted to see the girl with the bobbing head. Mark said, "Do you

mean Paula?", he said, yes, it is here.

-- it is her. I think we see such a variety. Looking at that shot there

of clothing and the levels that people have got on, just watched

Felix struggle to remove her gloves and throw them to the side.

Fionnuala is bundled up. It is being in the right amount of

clothing to be warmed, but not so wrapped up you feel you cannot get

management contingent out there in full force. The performance

director, Neil Black and the head of endurance, over from the USA.

That will be a wake-up call for him, over to wintry conditions in Europe.

He's come in from California. They do get their fair share of snow up

there. But a first for him to be at a European Championships as well.

They don't see cross-country like this in the US. Things starting to

settle down a little bit. The group of 12-15 athletes, Rosie

Smith, Caryl Jones at the front there.

Felix, Ball, all the pre-race favourites t two French and a team-

mate, who has been having a good season as well. Herzog there. Look

at Britain - you can see now it's head down, Felix has her mouth open

more and breathing heavier, as Britain starts to apply some early

pressure here. Katrina Wootton going through the pitch. Ireland

doing well in terms of packing behind Britain. The team race will

be interesting. I think Britain, I have to be careful here - Great

Britain as opposed to Fionnuala Britton, certainly well placed. The

French perhaps with the advantage at the moment. You can see how that

has broken up. She is pushing on here. She looks very comfortable

there. Very economical as she is running over the surface. You can

see the style is much more laboured of the girls running behind, trying

to hold on to it. Belete settling in comfortably

there. She's running for Belgium now. But of Ethiopian origin. Her

sister is running for Bahrain. She probably doesn't see conditions too

much like this, but would have spent time in Belgium and has

already raced on the cross-country circuits. She doesn't look scared

reminds of the cross-country race in Italy where they would go up and

down steps and go through the barn. It does make it more difficult

because you don't know what the surface is like there. If you have

a concrete surface through the barn, that will make it more difficult.

This log that you have to jump over, the last thing you want is your

spikes to get stuck as you try to jump off. I think it is safe, they

are not getting too stuck in that. One or two who sets off with big

intentions are maybe starting to struggle a bit, but Felix in

particular for me with this pressure applied by the defending

champion, Fionnuala Britton, you can see the team standings, it is

close. Ifrld are well up -- Ireland are well up and there and France

and Great Britain, a few points are separating the top three. Spain in

fourth place, but the top three places will chop and change as

athletes move up and down the field in the latter stages. Still a good

way to go here, but Britain is pushing, is putting a lot of

pressure on ba on boa on ba letty, full of confidence. There is a good

run from fin from fin from Fionnuala Britton. Surely if you

are a distance runner you can do both well, when Fionnuala gets on

the track she runs with confidence. 's more at home and relaxed instead

of the bouncing around and you can see the tension there. Fionnuala

Britton seems to be floating over it and on the track she has the

feeling of constraint at looking at too many people packed around here.

Here she can run how she wants to run and control it. The cross-

country is more run how you feel rather than set times and she is

more at home there and throwing in surges which made the likes of

Felix suffer. Sophie did struggle with foot

injuries and has come back OK from that now because I think any type

of foot worry would find you out on this course today.

Yes, it is interesting, there is a benchmark, Fionnuala Britton in her

last race before coming to the championships a couple of weeks ago,

finished in third behind a couple of Ethiopians and the two two

French women were fifth and eighth. She might have been surprised to

see her come alongside her and it pushed her on to another effort.

She wouldn't have expected her to be this close and Felix having to

work hard, but Fionnuala Britton, using the banks, using the parts of

the course where she can apply her strength a little bit, but it is a

good run so far. Sophie doesn't always get her

pacing right and we have seen that with the earlier races. If you

haven't got your pacing perfect, something Fionnuala Britton is good

at, it will find you out later on. The other thing we have seen today

is the more comfortable you are running downhill on slippy, hard

icy surface like that, it will stand you in good stead as the run

into the finishing straight on the back part of the lap is downhill

the whole way and I think you need to be secure and relaxed running

over that. Well, they are heading at the top

end of the course from the start/finish area through this

rescone structed -- reconstructed village. They have brought various

bits of Hungarian culture culture to this one site and of rural

interest and hence, I was going to say, we will be going through the

barn and this is the bit Paula, next time round, when they are on

the last lap, they will be thinking, from this point it is not far from

the finish and you have got to negotiate this part well, Fionnuala

Britton would like to have not too much company. She trying hard to

break them up. She pushed on again and wants to get the gaps and keep

the pressure on as she heads towards the last lap.

Yes, definitely. She would like to be coming out and put ago surge on

going into the buildings, in towards the logs in to that twisty

set because running hard around a bend when they can't always see you

is a good way to get a jump on people. She is not a slouch, but

she is not going to be finishing as fast as her competitor.

Fionnuala Britton and behind her is the Belgian. She has been happy to

let Fionnuala Britton do all the work. These two are pulling away.

Fionnuala Britton will be able to hear her breathing and the

footsteps behind and maybe just sensing if she can keep more

pressure on here, she might be able to break the Belgium athlete.

It is a difficult situation for Fionnuala Britton. It is hard to

race someone like that and you have to just keep applying the pressure,

applying the pressure and just trusting at some point you might

get that break and you don't want to see if she backs up, and tries

to let her opponent do the work. Well, Felix is really rallying as

well in the green there of Portugal, run of the pre-race favourites, she

must have been 30 meters adrift and has made a big effort. Hearing the

bell that's probably helped her raise her game. Fionnuala Britton

needs to keep the pressure on. She will be joined by Felix Felix and

Herzog. Felix has got a very, very strong second wind here. I am

wondering if early on she was suffering with a stitch or

something on her shoe because she is running for comfortably here and

closing the gap and bringing Herzog with her. It maybe we will see a

bunch of of four by the time we go through the barn area.

Rosie Smith, having a good run, but the team race as far as they are

concerned seem seems to be heading one of the other teams. These are

the top three, Felix finished in the top three in the last two

championships. She was third to years ago, her teammate Jessica

agusto. You have got to hang on and pick up a couple of paces because

you never know. There is Rosie Smith. Rosy Smith leading -- Rosie

Smith leading the Brits at the moment.

One One thing that might help Fionnuala Britton, there seem to be

lapping runners. It does give her something to pull into. We haven't

mentioned the win, but it is -- wind, but it is strong and you can

see how they are going into single file behind her and she is she is

doing a lot of the work. Is Felix struggling again? Or is it the way

she is running up the hill? This is the git where they are -- bit where

they are moving away from the start/finish area and they run into

the part of the course where they go into the barn and over the logs,

once they burn over the logs, it is downhill. If Felix is close enough

when they get to that section, if she has got anything left, she

might be able to raise her game. Fionnuala Britton is getting enough

of a gap, but Felix recognises and realises the danger and quickly

moves to cover the Irish come. Fionnuala Britton has got a five

meter lead, but heading into the latter stages and has got to keep

the the pressure on, Paula? She has. She has the steeplechase experience

and she needs to attack this bit so she has that little bit of a gap.

She did hold that over Felix last year and seems to be Felix is

looking behind, is she settling for second? Serge,

Fionnuala Britton has that gap and has it in her sights and she needs

to stay strong and composed there. Well, she is under danger, but

Felix is struggling as you pointed out Paula, when an athlete looks

behind and there is another glance behind checking there is no danger.

There is still enough time for Felix if she can raise something

over these last few hundred meters, but Fionnuala Britton is in for

another gold medal. Can she hold on? There is the Irish flag. Herzog

gets closer to her, but Fionnuala Britton could be the first athlete

to defend her title in consecutive years here, but it is not over yet.

Portugal hoping that Felix can muster something. She has yet to

win the gold medal in these championships, but is close enough

to strike. Fionnuala Britton not looking behind and concentrating

and trying to find a little bit of pace. Felix with the better track

cre credentials is not close enough. And gives it up because Fionnuala

Britton is storming away down this home straight here. Heart Herzog

pushing hard. And now Fionnuala Britton can enjoy the last 50 or 60

meters. It has been a great run. A great victory and she defends her

title in fine style. Fionnuala Britton takes the gold.

Felix hangs on for the silver and Herzog, a really good run for her.

Belete broken. The two French women coming in.

Good packing from the British women, the question is will it be good

good enough for them to be close to the team race? The French and the

Irish will be contenting. There is Rosie Smith going through the

picture so they have finished close together. There is Rosie. There is

Katrina. Ireland, looking very good. It could be a great day for the

Irish. They have already seen a fantastic run from Fionnuala

Britton. The first woman to successfully defend this European

No doubt about who won the woman's race there, a brilliant per

performance from Fionnuala Britton? There is no clocks or lap times and

and and nobody shouting the lap times. That was a pure piece of

classy front running. She knew what she had to do and kept the task.

She is running along with the Ethiopian born and Belgium athlete

behind her and she kept going and going and at sometimes she looked

tired, but she stuck to task and her mental strength was fantastic.

That was a pure piece of class distance running by a good athlete

and I think she will get better in the future. We will see her in a

few weeks time running in the same competition and it was a pleasure

watching her her.

Felix, came second there, she dropped back, and then pulled back

again. It is fascinating to watch It seemed like the pace was

consistent and Fionnuala Britton kept on pushing and pushing. Behind

her, she didn't seem concerned about. She did not look over her

shoulder. You sense she was confident most of the way. I just

thought that was a pleasure to watch. It was a really, really good

run. She came under pressure and she looked as if she was whittling

a little. After you could see they were all tired. Fionnuala Britton

should be very proud of that. Very well done to her! In terms of the

British performance, obviously saw them do well in the junior race.

Are they making that transition well? It was not a great

performance today. Cannot wait to see them later in

the year. Julia Bleasdale, we will see her run in a few weeks. Some

good athletes, they have been there before. Our team was not really -

if the Irish were to win it, that would be a fantastic day. We wait

on the results to come through. We wait on the final results. I wonder

where this sits in the schedule. It is difficult to manage a season,

isn't it? It is very frag nepbted. Distance -- Fragmented. The Olympic

year is over, the track season is over. September/October they kind

of get going again. By this time in December they should show some

signs of fitness. Spring time is when the World Cross Country

happens. This race is early. It could be better placed in January

time. You always look to this event and you see signs of athletes

and you see signs of athletes emerging. They have run well on the

track. Some of the great names you see - not always winning this race,

but often placing in the first two or three. In the junior race as

well. You see, several years ago Mo Farah, who was second in the junior

race. It starts the year. The track season is over and we are looking

forward to next year. I heard that Ireland have won Team

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skopgald. England ended one -- gold. That's one not to miss. I wonder

who will join that gallery behind You were very dashing in the day,

Bren! I was fashionable, especially with

the tie and the haircut. We will talk about two awards which

have been given out already. World Athlete of the skaf year in

Barcelona. Usain Bolt won. I thought Rhodesia should have got it.

I thought what was done was not fully appreciated and reflected in

that. Yes, Bolt set the world record.

Rhodesia did knit the 800 metre final. I don't think in modern

times that has been done, has it? Just the quality of the field as

well. The whole quality of that race and

the strength and the courage that it took to go out and do that. I

think it should have been reflected. He's a great man. His father was an

Olympic silver medallist. He felt the Olympic tradition was important.

On the day of the race, his manager told me he was going to be very

fast and go as close to the world record as he could. The other young

Kenya, he said "Listen, don't follow me. I am going quick. If you

come with me, you'll die! Usain Bolt was special. We can look

back to that. There was the question mark of whether he would

or wouldn't win it. Was there really? They lost the Jamaican

trials. Didn't get the best start, but came through. He knew he would

do well. When you train every day with somebody and he knows, and

Usain knows how hard, he knew Blake was a great trainer. You can have

the trials - I'll have the Olympics. He is a showman. That was the big

stage. He came out on the big stage and he got it right. If you are a

showman, you have to win, don't you? It was not in his mind - it

was never in his mind that he could lose that race. I sometimes think

he doesn't get the credit he deserves,. Our sport needs Usain

Bolt. He is a terrific bloke. That is not an act. Lots of other

athletes have come behind him and started to act the showman because

they know the cameras are on them. He is very excitable. He's been a

breath of fresh air for our sport. It used to be all aggressive, the

100 metre used to be like who is going to punch the hardest.

sport needs more like that. One will not carry it. It is too much

pressure on one person. It is not sustainable. We need more

characters coming through who the public can identify and build up

more interest in our sport. I am -- who might be the new faces? Steve

Cram has been looking into his shis and a new record looked to --

championships and a new record looked to justify that.

Consistentsy is his biggest challenge. Olympic gold medallist

Harting has highlighted he is the middle-distance star. Still only 17,

he won silver in the 800 metres and finished third in the 800 Olympic

trials. Despite Great Britain's ped free over the distance, no --

pedigree over the distance, no other has run so quickly at this

scene in 2012 after turning his back on a football career. He won

Gold in 10.05 seconds. Britain has had promising sprinters before. He

is mentally equipped to build on Olympic heptathlon. It is the

beginning position. At her rate of performance, watch out for

individual performances, particularly in the long jump,

where she happens to be the World Junior Champion.

After a disappointing World Championships in 2011, he set a

personal best at Crystal Palace. A fall ended his Olympic dream. He

ran a superb leg in the relay. Impressive flat speed, he will

D And I almost wonder if you are a young athlete this is a list you

don't want to be on, isn't it? good news is there were six shots

at it. You probably want 12 shots of it. The hurdle ahead of Judd,

she is a good young athlete. If you look, she handles -- she is in the

hands of a former outstanding athlete. The hurdles ahead of her

are just often, they often prove to be insurmountable. The pressure is

sometimes a little bit too much. It is a gamble.

We could probably name another six. Out of the other six, you might get

one or two. It's not the list you want to be on, is it? It is hard.

Probably the position you want to be in is, I want to be on that list.

You are the one who is coming out with that fire and drive. I am

going to show them!" as much as talent and having the talent there,

it is having the mental ability to stick with it. It is tough. You

have to be able to get over those pitfalls. You have to be able to

get over the injuries. Not being selected when you should have been.

The adjusting to new coaches, just getting your head around events

like this. Waiting around to go out on the track.

With the distance races there is more time for that in the races.

With the sprinter and the heptathlon Katriana is showing

she's at home in that situation, in London. It is a good one to watch.

You mention Adam, you think of Mark Lewis Fransis.

It shows the pitfalls, doesen it? If you -- doesn't it? In Jamaica

they will have a programme like this saying he will be the next

Usain Bolt. With Jess being there, it gives her

a chance to develop. It takes some of the pressure off her of we want

the next Louise Dennis. She can work her way, work, while at the

same time trying to be the best in Britain, she's getting to be the

best in the world. I think Jess will be the one going out tory ya.

Katriana has time to work on it. Back to the action from today.

Paula thinks the under-23 racers should not be here, but they are.

We can see what happened earlier on. Well Great Britain had high hopes

the conditions underfoot would suit. The conditions proved difficult.

One of the athletes lost a shoe, bent down and took a few others

or two did continue with just one shoe.

Coulson moved her way through. She never looked in any doubt.

Doaga pushing on. Once Coulson made her move, there was nothing anybody

else could do without her. Walker, who finished second in the under-23

age group was further back and it was the likes of Howarth who

started particularly well, looking to provide the support behind

Coulson. Coulson has had a couple of bad injuries, missed the 2010

season. She is coached by Mick Woods. This year things are coming

together nicely. That new-found strength and endurance is something

that is putting to good effect. Looking tentative on the course.

Looked occasionally as though she was over-striding a bit. Sort of

picking her way through. She certainly wasn't losing

anything in terms of the pace she just one shoe, why she stopped in

the first place, I don't snow. -- know.

Jess Coulson never looked like being caught. She settled down

really nicely and kept going away from the rest of the field. And

could enjoy a huge winning margin and that's been under lining the

sort of form she has been in all season around Europe. Now the

European under 23 cross-country champion. Who knows how well she

could have run in the senior race. A really good performance from the

British women. Not good enough to win the team gold. That would go to

Russia who packed very well. They had three in the top ten and took

the title. Jess Coulson could enjoy her

individual success. Whether or not the to age groups get merged, it

may well suit the British team who have one or two senior athletes in

the British team. The same could be said of the men's. The British men

came here hoping that they could produce one or two good

performances, but without too many expectations and it is an odd age

group this under 23 mens. There have have been winners in the past

who have gone on to do very well. Last year, the silver medal went to

James Wilkinson and he was set to have another good performance today,

but he wasn't really figuring in the early stages. Although this

race isn't as far as the senior men, it is a good test and not always

one which suits the track athletes because the race race progressed,

you you started to see the European 1500 meter champion, moving to the

fore. James Wilkinson did well to follow him through.

They just waited and waited. Wilkinson leading that chasing

group. The leader took full advantage.

That helped him close the gap. He stayed patient indeed and then you

saw when he got into the latter stages there wasn't going to be a

question whether whether the tall Norwegian athlete would have enough

pace, James Wilkinson staying on strong. He would have to run well

to hang on to the medal. There is Wilkinson and the Yorkshireman

leading his team superbly well. The silver medal last year and

third this year, but this year's winner improved from 15th last year

to win the gold medal. Will win son really good performance from rim. A

really good performance from rim. A solid run -- from him. A solid run.

It was gold for Britto n! Not Britain, but Fionnuala Britton!

It was a super day. Paula, you made comments in

commentary about the fact that that perhaps it is an unnecessary

category, just expand on that a bit? I don't think it is

unnecessary, but at this level on the European... At the European

level it is unnecessary because we saw how far ahead Jess was and how

much she dominated the race, it would have been a bigger challenge

for her and she could have competed well in the senior race. It would

have made our team stronger both Jess and Hanna Walker finished

ahead of our leading seniors and in the build-up of the cross-country

races she has been getting in there with the likes of Fionnuala Britton

and Felix and I think she should have been challenged. She could

have been up there in the lead group and we might have come out

with a winner of that event, you never know.

For some athletes, you have to pick your way through and if you are an

outstanding athlete who is 23, you have got a choice to make? Do you

go for the big one or stick with the smaller one? The ones who

haven't made it, it makes a lot of sense, but for the quality athletes,

I don't think, I think she should have been running the senior race.

She might have won that. We are going to look to the men's

race now, we have the defending champion. How do you see this race

going, Paula? I don't think, there has been controversy surrounding

one of the athletes because of the missed test, but he had an injury

and he suffered with a virus. He says he is not on top form. I I

think just an outstanding achievement to see one of the

athletes who won nine times. I don't think we will see a tenth.

Still, an amazing achievement. He was there in that first race?

When Paula won, it, only a few years later, he was winning the

men's race then. He he has been a great athlete. At sometimes he

threatened to be better, we thought are you going to breakthrough on to

the track, he never did that. But he has been - it has been an honour

to watch him, the fact that he wears the nice bright vest means we

will see him today. They are on the start line. It is

back to Crammy. You better get underway. All the questions have

been asked there and of course Bekele will figure, but there maybe

one or two surprises. The conditions throwing up all sorts of

different results o to that which we might have expected. So far, so

good for the British team. We've won five team gold medals so far.

Excuse me, I'm going to correct that, we have won four team medals

so far. Four individual, five team. At the beginning, I was saying if

Great Britain were to win nine medals, they would back the 100

mark, that's individual and team medals since 1994. That's good for

Great Britain and that's something which just underlines really their

dominance across the age groups particularly the younger age groups

and the interesting debate to continue at this level around the

under 23 races. Britain particularly in the junior mens and

womens have done very, very well. One or two past champions this this

race. Andy Vernon maybe the man who leads the British trials. He is

right there, we saw him going through, Andy Vernon and Steve

Vernon coming back to good form. Andy had a problem at the early

part of the year, he had a stress fracture and he is beginning to

come into form, he finished strongly in the trials, Andy Vernon.

He might be somebody who might enjoy this today. It is early

stages. That's Steve Vernon, it is good to see him back in good form.

His His fiance ran in the women's race. Helping the women to a team

bronze, Ireland winning the gold medal. What a day for them, two

gold medals, Fionnuala Britton individually and they will be

hoping Joe Sweeney will have a good race, two gold medals for Ireland

to celebrate. I don't know if they sell Guinness nearby, I am sure

they do in Budapest, but there maybe a few glasses of that

disappearing tonight. A little bit of elbowing around the

corner there. There was a question mark over how

one of the of the come pet competitors would perform. The

Spanish athlete has gone through the picture there. He is about

ninth or or tenth, when you see somebody running on the track and

on the country, never quite managing to win and there is always

a bit of a sympathy vote hoping this could be their day. Past under

23 champion, the Italian competitor. He has been having a good season,

watch out for him today. The French competitor won a kusm good races --

couple of good races and he is in good form. And until they come

together and I keep making the point about the conditions here,

who can cope with the cold? And the icy ground underneath? They are

just settling down. The men, of course, the senior men men. A race

which really does test the endurance, I am not sure that the

men would particularly enjoy so many laps. I was never a big fan of

lots of small laps and large laps, I used to lose count.

I was going to say that, Steve. I was the same. It is so cold that

all the runners going over the course, they are not chewing it up

at all, the snow is on the surface, the ground is really frozen solid.

It is about minus 6 Celsius here and you can tell how cold it is and

that wind must make it really difficult. I noticed in some of the

earlier races, some of the athletes were finishing in a distressed

state and that's a bit concerning at times because running in this

cold and working so hard, it can be difficult. They are all wearing

hats. They are all wearing long sleeves. They are all doing it

sensibly. It will make for an overall, interesting race and it is

good to see Jonathan Taylor in third place there and running

strongly. Yes, Jonathan's coach we know well.

Gordon Gordon will be delighted to see Jonathan going well. When he

won the times, he said it wean a surprise to him. It was to a lot of

other people. He was confident going into the the trials and he

took that race by the scruff of the neck in the latter stages and did

well. Andy Vernon came through brilliantly in the last mile-and-a-

half of the trial race and maybe showed that he is just coming into

the sort of form that might see him do well here today, but he is

further back in the early stages, but that's not a bad tinge. You

have got to be careful. So they are going through this twisty, turny,

bit of the course. Of course, with so many teams

arriving late, normally if they arrived earlier on the Friday, more

would have had a chance to look around the course. So many of them

arrived during the night, disrupting sleep patterns, etcetera

and I think indeed, Tom Farrell who is in the British team here, I

think Tom was left overnight in Amsterdam Airport. Tom is coming

over from the States. He is at Oklahoma State University. He had a

cracking year last year. He ran brilliantly early on in the season,

he got injured and it was a real disappointment for him, but he is

somebody with real talent. I think, he is, Steve. Sadly when

he was training for what was a marvellous Olympic Games that we

witnessed, there was spare places going in the 5,000, if he had

stayed healthy, he would have been competitive there. There is Tom

Humphreys. Looking further down the field for the other British

athletes, Jonathan Taylor is in fifth place. The gaps are beginning

to open. It is the very early stages.

Chandi and ap couple of athletes, Kenyan athletes running for Turkey.

They are in third place. It will be interesting to see if he can

survive these conditions, but for the moment, the Frenchman leads

from the Italian, not the favourite Italian. He is about eighth there.

He is up there, but this is going to change a lot because I don't

think this will be a race where Chahdi leads from start to finish

well. This is not a race they would necessarily expect to win the team

race. It is more about their overall equality here. If they can

pack well, they will have a good chance. The French will be

contenders. I will be interested to see whether the rest of the team

from Ukraine will follow Lebid. He's tenth place at the moment.

Lebid - he's got two or three good other athletes who have been

running well with him. You never know - watch out for them - if they

can put four together. He looks very composed at the

moment - senior men run 10,000 metres. On a day like this, that is

a real test. He's taking a long, hard look over his shoulder. He was

a European junior cross-country chasm pi -- champion. Now 25 - the

Italy. Is he going to be good enough to keep this one going? Well,

there are a lot of good athletes. There's one of the Kenyan athletes.

These condition won't be foreign to him. There's the American-based

athlete, he's running well there. These look like big gaps. They've

only been going ten minutes. With the wind blowing, as you can see

from the tapes on the side, it is blowing strongly. It is still minus

six Celsius. These guys have a hard 20 minutes ahead of them. There

goes Taylor, running well. There's Humphries, just behind him and I

saw Farrell behind him. So the British team are featuring well in

the pack. There's a long way to go. long-legged. He's a choppy sort of

style, which suits him well. Dropping his arms there, trying to

relax. Taylor is chasing. A gap then to

cross-country was always a trial of mental fortitude. If it was frozen

like this I didn't mind it. It was more like a road. These would have

been good conditions for you. I talk about cross-country as being

the purest form of distance running. I feel it is a great part of an

athlete's background. I checked the Olympic results, Farah winning the

mens five and ten, he's been the distance races in the Olympic Games

are cross-country runners of good ability. Whatever you say, cross-

country running, for some reason, is the basis of distance running.

They all, nearly all, even our middle-distance runners, in your

day, Steve and others were able to run cross-country. They ran

competitively in the country. It is part of every athlete's endurance.

I hope that take the message home that cross-country running is the

basis of distance running and is extremely important for our

athletes to be competitive, at some stage of their career cross-country

has to feature in their portfolio, I think. I agree. It is good if you

set out on that particular path and the junior race would have - you

probably won't make that many waves - but it is good to see one of our

best here. He finished ninth in the race. You don't have to be the best

at cross-country to do well. Even 1500 metre runners should be

competitive. You should be good enough to make the British team and

come to an event like this and be might, you might have understood

there. Some interviews from the press conference yesterday. Brendan

will translate! He was saying it would be a hard race today - I

think he is right. He's low down the field, but it is hard race. You

could have said that yesterday, couldn't you? A former cross-

country junior champion. Look at this - Britain now one point behind

Spain, who are packing really well in a group. That group have caught

Taylor and that group of three that were giving chase. Farrell has

joined address well. So two British athletes in there. At least two

from Spain, maybe three. Two group, as Lalli continues to run

with confidence. He's no stranger to winning this European Cross

Country Championships. Part is getting in shape just before

Christmas. Knuckle down to training in October and November. Here Lalli,

spending a lot of time looking over his shoulder.

There's a good gap for Lalli. He's nowhere near halfway yet. Maybe

just approaching the half-way point, actually. At half-way he has a good,

strong lead. It is different than track running. On the track, an

athlete would be reluctant to go lap after lap and ones that would

increase his speed. He would get the nfgs from the timing and the

score -- the information from the timing and the scoring. One of the

Portuguese athletes coming to a standstill, dropping out of the

race. Lalli is going and running in an unconventional way for him -

bursting away. That gap starting to get serious. He's looking

comfortable. He's looking strong. He doesn't seem to be wobbling at

all. It is difficult for some people. There he is. Look at his

technique there! He's just continuing. His form is good. He

works on the hill pretty well. There you see him up the hill and

the chasing group. They are working in there. There are a lot of them

and they are closing that gap. There's the British team, packing

well into second place. The Spaniards are in a very, very

strong position, as we expected. Farrell, in his race he's come over

from America. He's come here today. This is the first I have seen him

in a real international competition. He's making a good thing of it

himself. He's put himself in a good position, chasing Lalli, in that

chasing group. He still looks good. He's moving

well. His disadvantage is they can work together and there is plenty

of time for them to haul him back. Probably a good 10-11 minutes left

of running, at least. That's a good group. A little surprising that...

When you get reports that he's fit and well and been training well,

you expect him to come here and be competitive. He did drop out there

-- last year. We will see, he is certainly in 15th place a lap or so

again, but not in that chasing group and that's a big, big gap. Of

course when you twist and turn like this and the leader disappears

around the next corner that does not help you. This is good for him.

It breaks up the rhythm of the others as well. If you look at the

chasing group, Steve, there's nobody trying to take it on, trying

to change that gap. They are changing the lead on a few

occasions. They are in the group. They intend on staying in that

group. There's not many, looking down the road to see how far ahead

Lalli is. He has the confidence of his position. Coming up to 20

minutes, two-thirds of the distance. All the time he wants to look over

his shoulder. I must feel his form comes into this. He didn't suggest

he would win it by a distance. There's Steve Vernon. He's a

European mountain runner. He runs extremely well. He runs well in

cross-country. It is good to see him back in the team. This is a big

gap that Lalli has now. In the chasing group, well we've some

Britons in there. We have Farrell in that group. I think there's

another British athlete. The scoring team from Spain are doing

exceptionally well today. In the background you will see the guys in

the kilts. That's the East Kilbride members. They come everywhere. They

watch all over the world. We will see them in a few weeks' time in

Edinburgh. We see them wherever it is held. They know all the results,

all the runners. They love their tour of Europe. Been going to the

here. Those who managed to get out here in the end after all the

problems at the airport. Lalli didn't have too far to come. At the

moment, he's doing brilliantly and that lead, if anything, has been

getting bigger. The others not doing anything about closing it

down. Now, all of a sudden, maybe there's a push on from behind. This

is a man who looks comfortable. I get frustrated when people look

behind, when he has that much of a lead. He looks relaxed. Still

moving nicely across the surface. Really good action on this snowy,

hard ground here and Lalli, with a decent lead. 14 seconds, Tom

Farrell now leading that chasing group.

Abele, Chahdi, three Spanish athletes and now ver ver trying to

close up with Taylor -- Vernon trying to close up with Taylor. I

would say Spain perhaps, in fact there are three from Ukraine - the

team race will be really, really interesting. Spain perhaps with the

advantage. Of course those positions, in a group, eventually

they will stretch out. You can be in a group and be second in a group

of ten. All of a sudden that becomes tenth place in the latter

stages. No question that Lalli is still

going well. I think you can usually see when somebody is starting to

suffer. They may well start to close a little bit, but he is yet

to show any real signs of stress as Farrell is doing a good run. Having

come from the States. Not there at the trials, has chosen to compete

in these championships. He had to stay overnight in Amsterdam airport.

He is leading that group behind Lalli. He's making an effort to get

finding himself in a position where we were surprised to find the

athlete who we have mentioned earlier, the European junior cross-

country champion in 2006 and then European under 23 champion in 2008,

and here in 2012, he looks as though he is well on his way to

becoming the senior champion. He is an interesting athlete, he run ins

the whicher in the cross-country and in the summer he tends to

ignore the track and he runs a couple of half marathons, but we

are today, he is showing them a clean pair of heels as they come

through the museum part of the course. That's Lalli and a long way

down the field, but Tom Farrell from Border Harriers in the the

Lake District. He ran a good 5,000 meters earlier in year. He

qualified br the Olympic Games -- for the Olympic Games, but sadly

got injured and couldn't run. Here he is taking on the best of Europe.

At, at the moment, Lalli, Andreaally from Italy -- Andrea

Lalli from Italy. Some of them find the comp competition in the winter

to their liking. There is one of the athletes who I thought would be

a big threat. The Spaniards are taking a vice-

like grip on this race now. He has complete balance. He is not swaying

from side to side. He is not sliding on the ground. He is

running extremely well. His form is consistent and powerful and he is

doing everything he needs to do. He is not going to throw this away

surely, he will dig dig deep for this one. It will make him a trim

champion -- triple champion and no one has done this before. There is

over a mile to go and he is looking, and he is looking, he is taking a

longer look because they are so far behind.

Here is the bell, he knows he has got over a mile or so to complete.

He hasn't had too many races, he beat Meucci, I don't think he would

expect to dominate like this. 20 seconds ahead of the chasing group.

Britain are doing well. She together packing well. Andy Vernon

- there is good packing from Great Britain. It will stand them in good

stead. The Spanish quartet have been broken up a little bit and I

think the team race will be very, very close indeed. No doubt at all

unless something rather dramatic happened on this last lap. Lalli

Looking strong. They are closing a little. It is not 20 seconds the

lead, but it is far enough given that he has only 1200 or 1300

meters to go and I doubt they will catch him.

They were watching the defending champion. He is not able to go

defending his title as Lalli, Andrea Lalli from Italy enjoying if

you can enjoy a run on a day like this in conditions like this, he

will enjoy the roar of the crowd and he will enjoy this record. It

will be unique, junior, under 23, and senior champion. The chasing

group are getting closer. Tom Farrell is leading that group

alongside Meuchi. Your job is to enjoy this. Enjoy

the last lap. Enjoy your visit to the tourist attraction here in

Hungary and enjoy the crowd as you come down the finishing straight.

As he will come down the finishing straight he will get a great cheer.

Impressive running from the Italian. Lalli twice winner at these

European Championships as a a junior under 23. He could be the

first man to win all three titles. There is is Chardy. Lalli can enjoy

the nice downhill run. Lalli has been hugely impressive. I think his

action has helped and he is in great shape and will be rewarded

with a fine, fine victory. He is waving to the crowd who

turned out here. It is probably hard tore watch than run on a day

like this. His track credentials aren't good at all, but this man is

at home on the country. Here he is on the way to recording his first

senior victory and there he is saluting already. Well done, Andrea

Lalli of Italy. An impressive performance like we saw in the

women's race from Fionnuala Britton. Well done to him.

Totally dominant and he took it on in the early stages and goodness me,

is he enjoying this! Lalli makes it his third title of the European

Cross Country Championships. It is all about him today and he is right,

picking up the it tale the Italian flag. They haven't had too much to

cheer about in Italy as far as athletics is concerned, but here in

Hungary, they have a gold medal to celebrate in the senior men's

events. He looks behind him. They are nowhere in sight. Lalli takes

the win. Just outside 30 minutes. He will have time to catch his

breath, get a cup of tea and turn around before he sees Chandy. A

really good run from the British quartet. I think the British team

are looking really good as far as the team competition is concerned.

I don't think Spain have got four men in because one of theirs has

been slipping back a little bit. Lalli with an unexpected win. Not

in the sense that, there was one or two warm favourites, it was just

the way in which he won the race. It blew them apart. A good run from

Tom Farrellment we can watch for something from him this summer if

he can back up when what he did last year as well, it is close for

the team race, but Great Britain may have won six team medals. Will

it be the gold in this senior men's? We will clear that up as

men's? We will clear that up as soon as we can.

A great performance from Lalli and Tom Farrell in fourth place.

We didn't call it, did we? Not at all. Lalli was coming into the race

with the pedigree of having won the under 20s and the under 23s, but he

has gone ahead and become the first person to get the clean sweep on

the men's side and a very, very impressive win. So much time there

and he is coming down the home straight unravelling the flag and

no worries about anyone catching him. Right from the start he went

out and beautifully in control of his running action and we are

waiting for the big names to come back, but it never happened? No, he

was very in control. Very comfortable, you could see running

downhill, very on control on that surface. He was moving away. A

great run by Tom Farrell there and by the whole British team. Fingers

crossed, we might have sneaked the team.

Tom Farrell got himself into hot water before the team was selected.

He is American based base and he made comments about the team

selection. He got stuck in Amsterdam Airport. He would have

had a journey to come back and he felt he proved his form with his

race in the cross-country. He has come there and been part of the

team and hopefully we have done well and it does show that Tom

being based in the States, now we have had the American coaches come

over and become part of the coaching set-up in the UK and you

have to work with that. They are people people we are racing on a

world stage. We might have to integrate that mindset into our

world as well. We have got news that Britain came

second in the team race and Spain got the gold medal. A descent

performance. Let's talk about the changes. Charles has has gone, he

didn't make his medal totals. Then the coach who came in for the for

Paralympics team? Charles set the bar very high for himself, he felt

he didn't meet the targets and he moved on. Peter had success with

the Paralympics. It is different dealing with the UK Athletics side

from the Paralympics side and and and would need time to adapt. Neil

Black has come in as performance and Neil knows the athletes very

well and knows how things work and was a distance runner himself and

he will be good at bringing together that performance side and

making sure that the and the athletes are serviced and are per

fortunatelying. -- performing.

You have the coach who coaches Christian Taylor. There is a

competitive nature between the athletes they look after? And also

coaching American athletes and British athletes needing to be base

base there. On the hole, that will bring them on because they are

competing with their top rivals and you can only learn from that.

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