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boy. That is Now on BBC News, it's By the end of this week, the London | :00:14. | :00:19. | |
Olympic Games will be under way. The whole will be watching. It is a | :00:19. | :00:23. | |
special interest for Jonathan Edwards he won triple jump gold at | :00:23. | :00:28. | |
the Sydney Games in 2000. His war record in the event still stands | :00:28. | :00:35. | |
after 17 years. No-one is likely to get anywhere near. He is | :00:36. | :00:41. | |
representing the athletes on the Games' organising committee. What | :00:41. | :00:51. | |
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Jonathan Edwards, welcome to this special edition. In 2003, you in -- | :01:23. | :01:29. | |
were involved in the bid team. We are in the final stage in the | :01:29. | :01:38. | |
build-up to the Games. What are you expecting? It feels very different | :01:38. | :01:45. | |
from what it did in 2003. I am a different person. I retired after | :01:45. | :01:50. | |
nine years -- I have retired or nine years. It is a privilege to be | :01:50. | :01:58. | |
inside the Games, as opposed to being an athlete. To take it from | :01:58. | :02:04. | |
that base and stage... More hope than expectation... Paris was a | :02:05. | :02:14. | |
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clear favourite. But was a slow build-up towards Singapore. And to | :02:15. | :02:25. | |
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have a better comprehension of what it takes to put on a Games. Why has | :02:25. | :02:35. | |
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hope changed to expectation? every stage in this project, it has | :02:35. | :02:44. | |
been on time and budget. Olympic Park has been a brilliant success. | :02:44. | :02:48. | |
This was a regeneration project at heart. The Mayor of London decided | :02:48. | :02:56. | |
to back the bid. The way that project has been bought in has | :02:56. | :03:01. | |
given us reasons to believe that previous Games have failed. Or | :03:02. | :03:11. | |
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What boxers does London have to take to make it affectionately | :03:18. | :03:22. | |
remembered as past Olympics like Sidney? I think it is the tone of | :03:22. | :03:28. | |
the game. When people turn up to Kings Cross, and it is free | :03:28. | :03:37. | |
transport and forget across the other big part. What is the | :03:37. | :03:42. | |
transport like? What are the volunteers like? I like the one an- | :03:42. | :03:49. | |
quality of the volunteers. I remember being jet lag and fed up | :03:49. | :03:54. | |
and meeting the volunteers. It changed my perspective. That is | :03:54. | :04:01. | |
important. And the smooth running of the sporting event. Athlete gets | :04:01. | :04:07. | |
where they are supposed to be. The simple nuts and bolts. What an | :04:07. | :04:11. | |
athlete needs for top level performance is the same for every | :04:11. | :04:17. | |
country. You want decent food, accommodation, curtains to keep the | :04:17. | :04:22. | |
light out to sleep whenever you want to. You need great transport | :04:22. | :04:27. | |
and volunteers. All these things are common to all athletes. Let me | :04:27. | :04:34. | |
read you a coat -- quote from the Independent newspaper. It is an | :04:34. | :04:40. | |
important one. He said it is the most important competition of your | :04:40. | :04:46. | |
life and he these advantageous. -- in the least advantageous | :04:46. | :04:55. | |
conditions. In Sydney, the technical manual says that the room | :04:55. | :05:05. | |
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should be no smaller than 12 or 13 square metres. That is a big guide. | :05:08. | :05:18. | |
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And before -- the night before I We have to make it as good as we | :05:24. | :05:34. | |
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can. In Sydney, he called it off war. -- awful. I do not say that. | :05:38. | :05:44. | |
What did you say? I said all the things but not in the same order in | :05:44. | :05:51. | |
the same sentence. Maybe it is a case for telling competitors that | :05:51. | :05:59. | |
they should move out. The Swedish national -- Swedish Olympic | :05:59. | :06:03. | |
Committee does that. They say it is a place to stay and not a place to | :06:03. | :06:10. | |
party. The IOC had a different perspective. It is the magic of the | :06:10. | :06:14. | |
village which makes the Olympics what it is. What about the | :06:14. | :06:19. | |
superstars? The ones who have already travelled the world and | :06:19. | :06:26. | |
stayed in five-star hotels. No-one is compelled to stay in the village. | :06:26. | :06:32. | |
But should they be? I will always respect the athletes' right to | :06:32. | :06:37. | |
choose what is best for them. It is not just a case of being in the | :06:37. | :06:44. | |
village and putting up with a small bed or someone hitting the ball and | :06:44. | :06:53. | |
waking you up. Every single athlete wants to have his autograph. That | :06:53. | :06:58. | |
is the big issue for the superstars. They are celebrities within that | :06:58. | :07:05. | |
athlete community. That is what they need to get away from. | :07:05. | :07:11. | |
have been intimate Olympics, won gold and saw four. You are looking | :07:11. | :07:18. | |
out my first two where I do not qualify. OK. In at Lancer, you were | :07:18. | :07:25. | |
already a world champion. -- Atlanta. You were a bag of nerves. | :07:25. | :07:33. | |
Your wife suggested you return home. These are strange psychological | :07:33. | :07:41. | |
state to be in before competition. Maybe it is common. Looking back on | :07:41. | :07:46. | |
it, the funniest moment was when I was in my room and a blunter, | :07:46. | :07:56. | |
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Malcolm Arnold came to check on me. -- Atlanta. I was somewhat | :07:56. | :08:05. | |
emotional in my room. I was not looking in a good state. I felt | :08:05. | :08:12. | |
under huge pressure. The year before was such a sea-change in my | :08:12. | :08:18. | |
career. Up until that point, I had been a good international athlete. | :08:18. | :08:24. | |
I won a bronze medal in Stuttgart. I had been to Commonwealth Games. I | :08:24. | :08:32. | |
was there and they're about. I had never dreamed that I would be -- | :08:32. | :08:42. | |
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made the award champion but not a People expected me to turn up and | :08:47. | :08:52. | |
simple. simple. The brilliant Kenny | :08:52. | :08:56. | |
Harrison beat me. I knew he would be in great shape. I found it hard | :08:56. | :09:02. | |
to come to terms with that level of pressure. Happier times in Sydney. | :09:02. | :09:06. | |
Happier because you won the gold. But my mother-in-law passed away | :09:06. | :09:11. | |
beforehand. Once again, the psychological environment in which | :09:11. | :09:20. | |
he competed was very disturbed. was. In Sydney, half a way around | :09:21. | :09:26. | |
he world, not sleeping well. Feeling the pressure of 34 years | :09:26. | :09:31. | |
old was not going to end up retired without an Olympic gold medal. I | :09:31. | :09:39. | |
jumped OK that year but not brilliantly. It was not the best of | :09:39. | :09:45. | |
Let me take you to the moment before that Olympic final. What is | :09:45. | :09:48. | |
it like, if your head, if you like, what is it like in the moments | :09:48. | :09:54. | |
before your first jump in an Olympic final? In a way the moment | :09:54. | :09:59. | |
before the first jump, they are the most - ser convenient would be the | :09:59. | :10:03. | |
wrong word but you have something to get hold of and to foi cuss on. | :10:03. | :10:07. | |
The worst bit is the waiting. It is the getting up in the morning of | :10:07. | :10:10. | |
the final and thinking I have another seven or eight hours to go | :10:10. | :10:16. | |
and trying to kill that time. do you kill thyme? Well, you know I | :10:16. | :10:23. | |
don't know what I did. I think I read Lord of the Rings while I was | :10:23. | :10:28. | |
in Sydney. My boys gave me one of these little game boys, Nintendo | :10:28. | :10:37. | |
things and I think I went through all the Sonic the Hedge hog levels. | :10:37. | :10:46. | |
Lord of the Rings and sonic the Hedge hog. Yes, it is an | :10:46. | :10:53. | |
interesting mix. I think I went for a cough tea, had a chat, nothing | :10:53. | :10:56. | |
really. So actually getting out, stripped off this is what you are | :10:56. | :11:00. | |
prepared to do. It is not easy, but it is like, OK, it is in my hand | :11:00. | :11:06. | |
now I have to get on and do it. for taking your mind off it for | :11:06. | :11:10. | |
seven to eight hours and then switching your mind to it it is an | :11:10. | :11:14. | |
extraordinary transition, isn't it? It is. And I didn't have any | :11:14. | :11:19. | |
mechanism to do it, I just did it. You loved to beat people didn't | :11:19. | :11:26. | |
you? I mean, what changes for me was becoming the world record | :11:26. | :11:32. | |
holder. I think I hardly felt prouder in my career than when I | :11:32. | :11:41. | |
got the bronze medal in Stuttgart and I stood on the podium, and Mike | :11:41. | :11:48. | |
Connelly had got a gold medal and I hardly felt prouder as a person | :11:48. | :11:51. | |
getting the bronze medal then because that for me was, I think at | :11:51. | :11:56. | |
that point in time, as good as I could do. It was the upper limit of | :11:56. | :12:01. | |
my achievement. It wasn't always about winning because I knew I | :12:01. | :12:08. | |
couldn't beat those two, but once I jumped 1, 29 it did come about | :12:08. | :12:12. | |
winning. The expectation was that I would win and jump a long way. | :12:12. | :12:16. | |
Going into competitions after that did become a different challenge | :12:16. | :12:20. | |
psychologically. I put in a good jump first round and second round | :12:20. | :12:25. | |
and then I would wait to see if somebody went past me. If someone | :12:25. | :12:28. | |
went past me the adrenaline would flow and I would get another 20 or | :12:28. | :12:34. | |
30cm and it was a wonderful feeling. You have already mentioned the | :12:34. | :12:44. | |
world record, 18m, 29cm established in governmenten berg in 1995. It is | :12:44. | :12:50. | |
a world record that still stands. We talked on this programme to Bob | :12:50. | :12:59. | |
Beaman about his long jump, 2 feet 2-and-a-half, talking in old money | :12:59. | :13:09. | |
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then. He talked of a Cataplectic seizure. He said that propelled him. | :13:11. | :13:20. | |
That moment in Gothenberg was there something other worldly about it | :13:20. | :13:25. | |
because you literally flu? thing was I jumped further than | :13:25. | :13:32. | |
that in the European cup maybe eight weeks earlier, I did 18m 43 | :13:32. | :13:37. | |
wind assists and that obviously didn't count for record purposes | :13:37. | :13:41. | |
because the wind was too strong. Were they better jumps in a way? | :13:41. | :13:47. | |
really interesting mix. I think I was faster in Gothenberg and | :13:47. | :13:51. | |
flatter off the ground. For the European Cup I hopped and stepped a | :13:51. | :13:56. | |
lot further. I think if you combined the two I would have | :13:56. | :14:00. | |
probably gone about 18m 90. They were different jumps but both very, | :14:00. | :14:07. | |
very well balanced. I went to Gothenberg knowing if I jumped well | :14:07. | :14:11. | |
I would break the world record. It was never racking - the fact that I | :14:11. | :14:17. | |
was in the group of achievers made it much easier to deal with it. I | :14:17. | :14:21. | |
remember Colin Jackson wasn't running but he said just try to | :14:21. | :14:25. | |
enjoy this moment because you mindn't have it again. And he was | :14:25. | :14:28. | |
right. I never had the opportunity again in the shape that I was in. | :14:28. | :14:31. | |
And in the second round there is a lovely moment - and I can't | :14:31. | :14:35. | |
remember it so much from being there but from now watching it on | :14:35. | :14:39. | |
TV as I have watched it so many times when I smile and I do this | :14:39. | :14:44. | |
and say, "Right, I think I can jump - I through is a bit more in my | :14:44. | :14:48. | |
legs today" and I knew it in my hop and my step there is just that | :14:48. | :14:53. | |
moment when you fly and when I had landed in the pit I just stood up, | :14:53. | :14:56. | |
got up and went, yeah, I knew it was a world record. They didn't | :14:56. | :15:00. | |
have to measure. You didn't have to look at the sign. How jealously do | :15:00. | :15:03. | |
you guard that world record? I think you described it as your | :15:03. | :15:07. | |
property, your own property? years is a long time and I get so - | :15:07. | :15:11. | |
I was at the UK trials for the Olympics this last weekend and you | :15:12. | :15:15. | |
get the start sheet for the men's triple jump and of course my man's | :15:15. | :15:19. | |
name is at the top, world record, British record, stadium record and | :15:19. | :15:23. | |
it is a nice thing. Who wouldn't want to be the world record holder? | :15:23. | :15:29. | |
I think for me probably because I still hold it it maybe mean as | :15:29. | :15:34. | |
little bit more than the Olympic title. Lots of people have won an | :15:34. | :15:39. | |
Olympic triple jump title. Nobody has jumped 18m 29. When somebody | :15:39. | :15:42. | |
does jump over that distance it will be a slightly different | :15:42. | :15:47. | |
viewpoint on it but at the moment that is like, I look at my skinny | :15:47. | :15:51. | |
legs and I think - I go to schools and the kids look at my skinny legs | :15:51. | :15:56. | |
and think that can't be right. There are a number of world-class | :15:56. | :16:00. | |
athletes who allow us a glimpse into their personal lives some | :16:00. | :16:04. | |
times in glossy magazines. Few have been as public about her faith as | :16:04. | :16:08. | |
you have. Why were you so keen to identify yourself as a Christian. | :16:08. | :16:12. | |
was a Christian first and foremost. It was what defined me. Before | :16:12. | :16:19. | |
being an athlete? Before being an athlete. I saw my life as an out | :16:19. | :16:23. | |
working of my commitment to God, whether it was doing my studies or | :16:23. | :16:30. | |
being part of a church or being an athlete. In part, certainly I was | :16:30. | :16:33. | |
an Evan gelcal Christian and I thought it gave me a great platform, | :16:33. | :16:37. | |
not to force my faith down people's necks but to say this is what I | :16:37. | :16:40. | |
believe and it is something that everybody should think about and | :16:40. | :16:44. | |
come to a decision on. Whether they choose to believe or not is up to | :16:44. | :16:52. | |
them but as a Evangelica l Christian it is a message I had to | :16:52. | :16:57. | |
give. There was a suggestion in 2007 that it was partly because you | :16:57. | :16:59. | |
decided that you would compete on a Sunday and that somehow said | :16:59. | :17:04. | |
something to you about your faith, would that be fair? No, I said the | :17:04. | :17:09. | |
Sunday issue had been resolved quite a listening time before hand | :17:09. | :17:14. | |
when I first started I had the never on a Sunday, the whole Eric | :17:14. | :17:18. | |
Little resonance but in 1993 I made the decision to jump on a Sunday. | :17:18. | :17:24. | |
The hard thing about that decision was not the thee logical issues | :17:24. | :17:28. | |
about was was it right or Wong but who would people think. Would they | :17:28. | :17:32. | |
look at me and think I had compromised my faith. In the end I | :17:32. | :17:39. | |
made that decision. 2007 a public renouncement, when I retired in | :17:39. | :17:43. | |
2003 I did start to question my faith and eventually lost it, but I | :17:43. | :17:49. | |
didn't want to suddenly stand up and say, "I don't believe any more" | :17:49. | :17:52. | |
and yet I wanted to be true to myself. The thing came out to the | :17:52. | :17:58. | |
open because I was a presenter of Songs of Praise, a very high- | :17:58. | :18:01. | |
profile Christian programme, a high-profile Christian. I didn't | :18:01. | :18:04. | |
feel like I could do that so I stepped down from that and that is | :18:05. | :18:08. | |
the point in time that it became public knowledge. It needed to | :18:08. | :18:10. | |
become public knowledge but I didn't think it was appropriate to | :18:10. | :18:14. | |
call a press conference and say, "Hey, I don't believe any more". | :18:14. | :18:20. | |
When faith drains away like that it must be a very difficult experience. | :18:20. | :18:24. | |
For me personally it hasn't been and that stocks me. It was | :18:24. | :18:28. | |
everything to me and now it is not there at all -- shocks me. It was | :18:28. | :18:33. | |
everything to me and now is it not there at all and I feel perfectly | :18:33. | :18:39. | |
fine. At this stage in my life I feel has happy has I have ever been. | :18:39. | :18:43. | |
That is where I am in terms of belief at the moment. So no for me | :18:43. | :18:47. | |
it was like, OK, I don't believe it. I am going to live my life this way | :18:47. | :18:51. | |
now and be true to that. Harder for people around me, for my wife, my | :18:51. | :18:55. | |
parents particularly, my dad being a retired Victoria car. That has | :18:55. | :19:01. | |
been a challenge for them without any question - Vicar. That has been | :19:01. | :19:05. | |
a challenge for them without any question but you have to live your | :19:05. | :19:10. | |
life. Finally let me say it is the age-old question, how will you feel | :19:10. | :19:15. | |
at the opening ceremony? I think because I am part of the organising | :19:15. | :19:19. | |
committee I am hoping it is not going to go wrong! (Laughs) | :19:19. | :19:23. | |
don't have any serious doubts about it, do you? No, but I have never | :19:23. | :19:27. | |
been in the position where you are kind of the guys who are putting | :19:27. | :19:30. | |
the show on. I sit on the board of the organising committee. If there | :19:30. | :19:33. | |
was something to be something that went wrong it is on our watch. | :19:33. | :19:38. | |
This this is your fear of failure again. Maybe that is it. When I | :19:38. | :19:42. | |
jump and I talked about that, you stnd on the runway and that the's | :19:42. | :19:48. | |
yegs bit, the bit you have trained for but you kol it - the easiest | :19:48. | :19:52. | |
bit, the business you have obtained for. But you control it. There are | :19:52. | :19:55. | |
very few variables. Somebody jumps a bit further than you or the wind | :19:55. | :20:02. | |
or the rain or whatever, but with a work force of 200,000 working to | :20:02. | :20:05. | |
the organising committee - it is like having a child who has left | :20:05. | :20:08. | |
home and you don't know what they are doing but you have to trust | :20:08. | :20:12. | |
they are doing the right thing. Just like when a child leaves home, | :20:12. | :20:17. | |
maybe in will be a tear or two? will be crying without any question. | :20:17. | :20:22. | |
I cried like a baby when I carried the torch I was in my home town, | :20:22. | :20:26. | |
right outside the house where I was brought up. But there as well there | :20:26. | :20:31. | |
was this kind of coming towards the end of a journey which has take ten | :20:31. | :20:36. | |
most part of my life since I have retired. It has been like a | :20:36. | :20:40. | |
surrogate athletics career and I believed it in passion fately. I | :20:40. | :20:44. | |
have loved every minute of it and it is coming to an end but I want | :20:44. | :20:49. | |
it is coming to an end but I want to it be right. Probably the most | :20:49. | :20:53. | |
significant moment in me getting involved in 2012 was what happened | :20:53. | :20:57. | |
in Sydney, having watched what happened to Cathy Freeman and the | :20:57. | :21:02. | |
sense of national pride. I want this to be right because I want the | :21:02. | :21:06. | |
nation to be proud. The athletes gold medal performances will give a | :21:06. | :21:09. | |
point in time for the public to celebrate but is it not just the | :21:09. | :21:12. | |
performance, it is the whole thing of what we have done as a nation. | :21:12. | :21:16. |