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Afternoon all. Welcome to the first

round weekend of the FA Cup. Now

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today we come live from Boreham

Wood, just around the corner from

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Elstree studios at the heart of the

British film industry. So, we

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couldn't resist.

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History boys indeed.

No team has won

it more than Arsenal.

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The biggest Chelsea celebration!

At the heart of the British film

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industry lies a town once known as

the British Hollywood.

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From the streets where movie stars

once walked, and some of the

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greatest stories were told, comes a

football club 70 years in the

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making. Intent on FA Cup glory.

This, the greatest Cup competition

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in the world, where anything can

happen. And right now, on first

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round day, Football Focus is live

from Boreham Wood FC.

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Roar down the camera they said t

will look good, they said. Never

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mind, ignore that. We are live from

Boreham Wood. This is our home for

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the programme. The bar is open.

They're ready for us. We are fully

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warmed up for the first... Go on,

fellas. Arsenal fan in Boreham Wood,

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who have have thought it?

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We are on the road for the first

round of the Emirates FA Cup,

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and I'm delighted to be joined

by Kevin Kilbane, Dion

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Dublin, and of course,

these wonderful humans.

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They're in the mood!

This is why we love the first round.

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This is the FA Cup, we love it for

that reason. People like this.

I am

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sure they're going to go wild when

we interviews the guest of honour,

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the FA Cup as well.

Now, I know you lot know exactly

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where you are. For the rest of us

here is a lesson.

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Let's have a little

geography lesson.

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We are a short hop

from London-Upon-Thames,

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due north of Wembley,

where the final will

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take place next May.

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And just next door to

the famous Elstee Studios -

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the reason why we went all Hollywood

at the top of the show.

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This is Meadow Park,

our home for the day.

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I am sure every time I mention the

opposition Blackpool you are

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probably going to boo. Yeah, there

you go. Blackpool are the opposition

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today.

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One of 40 ties in all.

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Here's what's coming

up for you today.

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Happy as Harry - Winks reflects

on a glory night for Spurs.

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To come away with a win in the way

we done it as well was incredible.

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Chelsea's Cesc returns

to face his former boss.

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With Mourinho I had an incredible

year, one of the best seasons.

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We have Seagull Shane Duffy

on his near death experience.

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I am so grateful for the doctors and

surgeons keeping me alive.

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And, taxi for Clemmit.

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Hop in, I will take you.

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The FA Cup road trip is back.

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I think that might be the end

of our film references.

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But who knows?

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Plenty of FA Cup build up

for you but it's a big weekend

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in the Premier League too.

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in the Premier League too.

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Let's remind you of the fixtures.

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The early game between Stoke

and Leicester kicks off shortly,

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before four three o'clock games

including high flying Burnley's

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trip to Southampton -

we'll be live at that one

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with Motty soon.

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Liverpool go to West Ham this

evening and there's a couple

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of whoppers for you tomorrow.

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As Manchester City host Arsenal,

and Chelsea play Manchester United.

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Before that, there's a high noon

meeting between Crystal Palace

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and a Spurs side still purring

after their mid-week

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It was a Wembley night to savour

for a certain Mr Winks.

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I just had some toast, I haven't got

anything in between my teeth, have

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I? OK, good.

I think Wednesday is

probably a good place to start. What

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was that night like to be involved

in?

It was pretty special to be

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honest. As a Spurs fan, as well, to

be involved in a game as big as that

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and to come away with a bin in the

way we done it as well was just, it

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was incredible.

Dele said something

interesting after the game, he

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expected, you expected to beat them.

Expecting to beat the European

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champions is quite a statement, is

that indicative of where you guys

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are at the moment?

We have been

playing well lately, the draw a few

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weeks ago was a really good result

for us going there. Liverpool as

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well straight after with another

win. We know how good we can be. I

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think it's more of a case of showing

that consistently and just proving

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to everybody how good we can be.

You

are Spurs through and through, what

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do you remember, what was the first

game you went to?

Against

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Middlesbrough. Somehow I managed to

get tickets on the halfway line in

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the directors' seats.

Fancy.

Don't

know how we got them, it was

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fantastic, we won as well, teddy

Sheringham might have scored. It was

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a great day. We went together, me

and my dad. All I can remember as a

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young kid, the atmosphere of White

Hart Lane, it was pretty special.

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Something I will never forget to be

honest with you.

Boyhood heros, who

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did you look up to?

Um, quite a few.

I think the main one really for me

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was probably Steven Gerrard, he was

my real idol. I even wrote him a

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letter at some point when I was a

kid as well. I don't think it got to

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him, I didn't get a reply. As real

heros probably Gerrard for me.

What

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about here, who helped you here when

you were a youngster?

Scott Parker

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was brilliant when I was young. A

few times after training he would

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sit with me and discuss some of his

clips and show me why he had done

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this and that and what he thinks I

can do. I found that reason helpful,

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especially someone so respected and

a good world-class player to take

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time out of his day to speak to me

was something I will never forget.

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How did the whole little Iniesta

thing come about, it's quite an

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accolade.

I am miles off his level

just yet. He is someone I aspire to

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be like. He is a fantastic player.

To even have comparisons like that

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from the gaffer is fantastic.

Premier League debut and you scored

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as well. It's like you only had eyes

for him. Batting everyone else away,

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straight for him. Was that a

testament to just how special he is

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for you?

Harry Winks is there!

Equalises for Tottenham Hotspur. He

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scores his first goal for the club.

When Josh scored his first goal for

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Spurs and the mappinger did say, he

was like, when you score why not

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celebrate with me. -- manager. That

stuck in my mind, I said I will make

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sure I celebrate with the gaffer.

That was the meaning behind that. To

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say thank you for everything and

giving me the opportunity.

Harry

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Kane and Harry Winks were fantastic

today.

What did the next two, three,

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four years look like? In your

dreams?

In my dreams... We win a

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trophy, win the World Cup. For me, I

don't know. I don't really like

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planning too far in the future. I

want to take it game by game, week

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by week and just go from there. The

longer you plan, it's difficult to

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really, you can't, you know what

football is like, you can't really

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plan it. All I can do is keep

working hard and see what happens.

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If you are just joining us, we are

live at bo Wood. We have a live

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audience as well -- Boreham Wood.

Let me just... How many Spurs fans

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here? Quite a few? OK. Big fans of

Harry Winks. He was fantastic

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against Real Madrid. A few weeks and

Gareth Southgate was being asked

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questions because he put him in the

England side.

You look at that

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performance and how accomplished he

is starting to look. It's almost as

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if you need that first ten or 15

games before you feel fully settled

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into the first team and now we are

seeing what a good player he is. He

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is taking examples from top players,

yeah.

It's like he is so brave on

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the ball. He tries things. If it

doesn't work out he tries again. He

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is not the kind of person to get

away from responsibility. I like the

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way he place.

An interesting piece

written this week about the way he

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receives the ball. All top players

will look around and see what's

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around them, he says Gerrard is his

hero and he is very Gerrard-esque.

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Frank Lampard as well, he was the

ideal player from a midfield point

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of view. Always having six, seven

looks around. It's almost knowing

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where to play the ball before it's

hit your feet.

And the players

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around you know that he is doing

that. So he's upped his game, player

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around will up their game. He knows

Harry is doing that.

15 of the last

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30 England debuts have been coached

by Mauricio Pochettino. Are they

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contenders?

At the top level hitting

quarters and semis, they've not been

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at that stage before, that could

perhaps go against them, they've got

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the quality. They've competed

against the best. Are they at

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Manchester City level, PSG level,

Juventus, Barcelona? We will see.

I

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think they'll surprise a few.

They

showed people with the result mid

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week to take notice.

That's what

they can do and they'll expect to do

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it again against other teams.

Whether they'll go all the way I am

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not sure.

Palace, are they improving

under Roy Hodgson. They're improving

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since Saha came back.

What a plus it

was getting him back. We saw that in

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the Chelsea game. What he can

enhance the transition. When Roy

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Hodgson's sides sit deep, they're

well organised, where is the break

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coming from? Where is that spark and

drive them forward? Saha provides

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that.

Steven Reid as well. He is a

winner. He will give that motivation

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last few words. You know what he is

like, he is a winner. That's what

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players needed, somebody to say, go

on, you can do it.

Extraordinary

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last minute goal there. We are being

closely man-marked here! Don't know

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if you have noticed.

I thought will

I get the jel wows out -- elbows

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out, I keep missing them, they're

that small!

We will be back later.

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You are going to join us. We are

going to have a word with the

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manager. We love to show you a

dressing room on Football Focus.

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This is an interesting club right at

the heart of the community. All the

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lads you are seeing are part of the

academy, they've been training and

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playing this morning. We are going

to find Luke. There is the pitch.

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Beautiful surface that I am sure

makes a difference to the way they

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play. Luke is in here. He has been

associated with the club for a long

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time. Good afternoon to you, sir.

Good afternoon.

The youngest manager

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in the top five division. Only 32

years old. What's it been like, the

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build-up to this game this week?

Yeah, it's nice. Obviously it's good

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for the town. On Thursday getting

the community a nice buzz and I

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tried to keep it as simple as

possible and try to reflect on the

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national league game in terms of our

build-up. Very positive.

Kevin and

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Dion are going to join us as well.

You seem cool and calm at the

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moment. Did you sleep well last

night, do you feel the pressure on

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an occasion like this?

Slightly

broken sleep, have to be honest. I

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am pick ago side that I think are

going to cause Blackpool problems

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and I think a few are going to be

upset, that's my biggest worry. I am

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calm at the minute. Closer to

kick-off it will start to dawn on me

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we have Blackpool in the first

round.

Dan mentioned the pitch and

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we will look in a while, but does

that pitch and the standard of that

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pitch dictate your tactics and the

way you play?

We have looked to try

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and utilise the ball more in terms

of playing through the third.

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Arsenal under-23s ladies play there.

It's an incredible surface.

Best

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outside the championship, we are

lucky to have that. I brought

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personnel in to try and explore the

fact that we have a lovely pitch.

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The fact that Blackpool play and we

are going to... It's probably going

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to help them as much

Does it hinder

you as a manager knowing teams are

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going to go their pitch is

fantastic, let's play a bit of

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football?

The FA Cup first round and

you go away to a team in the

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national league you are assuming

there's going to be... Exactly that.

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When they land here today, it's

probably the best pitch they played

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on all season.

It's immaculate.

Beautiful.

You are going to put out

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a team that you feel will cause

damage. For the club and town it's a

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huge occasion.

Speaking to the

chairman it's all about the glory.

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We have never beat a league side in

our history.

Until now!

Yeah, I am

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hopeful.

What about the final words,

I am always interested. Do you go

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full-tilt, stay low-key, do you show

players how much it means to you?

We

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have done a lot of build-up, for me

tactics are already set in place.

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They know how big the game is, let's

be honest. I have played in first

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round propers and I don't need a

team talk, as low key as possible.

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They know how important it is to get

on the front foot and get our game

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into play as much as possible.

Have

you got those final words in your

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head now, do you know what you are

going to say?

I have something in my

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head, whether I say it...

Don't give

it away yet! I am ready, don't know

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about you lads. Let's get out there.

Fabregas this weekend takes on his

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former boss and he has been talking

to Gary.

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COMMENTATOR:

Exquisite skill.

There

is Pep Guardiola, Conte - of

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contrast in styles and

personalities. Who improved you the

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most?

All the managers that you

mentioned, I have been able to adapt

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myself, my football, to each one of

them. With Jose Mourinho, I had one

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of the best seasons of my career. In

the Premier league, the first time I

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won it, I remember going on my

knees. It was such a relief. I was

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holding my hands up, saying thank

you, because it was a competition I

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played in so many years, and some of

them, I was close. To be able to win

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it with a fantastic teak under Jose

was quite an experience.

There have

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been times when you have not been

first choice - how frustrating is

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that?

To be honest, last year was

the first time, really, that I

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wasn't first choice, and it was

tough. I would not deny it. I

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complain, I moan, I cry, or I show

this manager that I am the best and

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that I can play.

You are in your 30s

now. How would you like to end your

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career? Here, or... ?

I don't know,

and I don't want to think about it.

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Every time I make plans, they never

go the way I just get on with it,

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and whatever comes comes.

I must

say, if they are not going away you

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want, you have had an extraordinary

career. I don't know quite what you

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want. You have won everything,

except one major competition - the

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Champions League.

Correct.

Is that

the one you need to tick off?

It is

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a thing that it's here. I keep it in

mind and I would love to win it one

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year, hopefully with Chelsea.

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We've had a look

in the dressing room.

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How about the kit room?

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This is the domain of Loretta. She

is sorting out 21 kits for 21 teams.

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Boreham Wood are our community club.

They have the largest football

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education scheme in the UK. They

will need to heighten the doorways

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for idiots like me! They take the

development seriously as well. We're

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making our way past the shallows.

The dressing rooms are off to the

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right out onto the pitch, where Dion

and Kevin will be waiting for us. We

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mentioned the Arsenal connection.

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Hopefully as we stroll down

here and onto the pitch.

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As we walk up to our pundits,

listening to Cesc Fabregas there, it

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has been a funny week. You have

Abramowitz at the training ground,

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which is a warning sign.

Automatically, you are thinking red

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alert when that happens. Given how

well they played over in Madrid, it

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has been inconsistent this season,

but some of the games have been so

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impressive, and to go to that, it is

totally on Antonio Conte.

I think

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they have come in and out of games.

Northern it -- normally they

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dominate through possession, but now

they are playing for 15 minutes --

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...

You are shaking your heads. It

is hard to work out...

He knows how

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to get hold of the game, and when to

pass forward, went as not to get

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strikes into the game, whether it is

the number ten, Jesse Lingard, he

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knows when to speed up play and when

to slow down. He has great know-how.

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He has half dictated how the other

players play. He is a catalyst.

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Everything goes through him. Pogba

when he is fit and playing hasn't

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got a position now.

In answer to

your question, it is incredible how

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Chelsea let him go, given that can

say is out and they are struggling

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in midfield. They have let him go to

United. It's crazy, really.

Jose

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Mourinho was happy with that but not

with the fans. Is it part of his

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character that he loves to pick

battles and they are not always the

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wisest ones to pick?

I thought he

was coming out of that mould, out of

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that edgy manager in interviews, and

I thought he was chilling out. He

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started wearing a suit. And then you

get this little gesture into the

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camera, and you are picking a fight

that doesn't need to be there. I

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don't think United need it.

Are they

not getting the credit they deserve?

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The performance at Anfield and the

tactics, even the Tottenham game,

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but he has got the results. He will

be happy with the points he has had

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from those two games.

That is his

board.

He has done that at Chelsea,

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wherever he has been - in the bigger

games, don't give anything away.

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Manchester City against Napoli were

amazing as well. They are five

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points clear at the top. Sergio

Aguero finally became the club was

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my all-time goal scoring record

holder. It gives us an excuse to get

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his greatest hits out. COMMENTATOR:

Aguero shoots from 25 yards. What a

0:21:280:21:36

goal! Brilliant finish by Aguero.

Aguero schools! -- Aguero scores.

He

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finds the goal. His 50th Manchester

City goal. What about that?

A man

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for all kinds of games and all kinds

of goals.

Aguero finishes

0:22:040:22:16

magnificently.

A sweetly timed

header.

He's got it through... Its

0:22:160:22:24

Sergio Aguero!

You two were just

smiling watching that. So many great

0:22:240:22:32

goals. Is he the best we've seen in

the Premier league?

Alan Shearer and

0:22:320:22:40

Dion might have an argument with

that! I think he is certainly

0:22:400:22:45

different to the conventional

strikers we have seen. The variety

0:22:450:22:49

of goals he has scored, his team

play, and his awareness, how that

0:22:490:22:54

has picked up, you certainly are

there.

There is a way to mark as a

0:22:540:22:59

centre half, to mark certain centre

forwards. I wouldn't like to imagine

0:22:590:23:05

how to mark Aguero. He is strong.

I'm not sure which is a stronger

0:23:050:23:12

foot, because he can score great

goals with his left foot as well.

0:23:120:23:18

Here is one that many will debate -

are they playing the best football

0:23:180:23:23

we have seen in the time of the

Premier league?

I think United would

0:23:230:23:32

argue that they played a different

sort of attacking football. Arsenal,

0:23:320:23:37

in their heyday, were playing great

attacking football. It is more of a

0:23:370:23:40

continental style is that we have

seen, so it is different. How they

0:23:400:23:46

are opening up sides and the chances

they are creating, I think the

0:23:460:23:50

chances are so abundant now.

United

used to be girls, girls, girls, and

0:23:500:24:00

now City are dominating matches with

the ball at their feet. -- goals,

0:24:000:24:07

goals, goals.

0:24:070:24:17

Is there a sign of a bit of bite for

you?

It is how Wenger lines up the

0:24:200:24:27

side this weekend - will he be more

organised, maybe sacrifice not

0:24:270:24:31

having the ball, sinking deeper,

because that might be the only way

0:24:310:24:34

to get a result against City at the

moment. If you attack man city, it

0:24:340:24:39

will be such an open game, and city

will have too much for them. It is

0:24:390:24:42

now Wenger lines them up. Arsenal

won't have enough for them.

If you

0:24:420:24:49

try to match City, you will come a

cropper. Arsenal have to be clever.

0:24:490:24:52

When they have the ball, they have

to use it to their best in

0:24:520:24:57

Manchester City's box, because I

don't think they will have the ball

0:24:570:25:00

as much as City.

There is a proper

wind coming down here. Do you want

0:25:000:25:10

to play?

It is far too cold!

Brighton are unbeaten in three.

0:25:100:25:20

Brighton - unbeaten in three -

face Swansea this weekend.

0:25:200:25:22

Juliette Ferrington has been

to see their Irish centre-half.

0:25:220:25:24

Shane Duffy has quite

a story to tell.

0:25:240:25:31

It was a deep free kick when I went

up and the keeper thought he could

0:25:420:25:48

punch the ball, and I got up and

headed it, and he need the litany --

0:25:480:25:59

he hit me with his knee right there.

I started getting light-headed a

0:25:590:26:02

little bit, and then literally, that

was me on a stretcher, with oxygen

0:26:020:26:19

little bit, and then literally, that

was me on a stretcher, with oxygen.

0:26:190:26:23

The doctors told me it was all

internal. I lost three litres of

0:26:230:26:26

blood inside my body. My heart was

starting to stop. The doctor said,

0:26:260:26:36

we could lose your son here, and my

dad, I don't know how he took it,

0:26:360:26:40

but I'm sure it wasn't good. When I

woke up, I was literally, what

0:26:400:26:48

happened? The last thing I remember

was hitting the ground hard. I never

0:26:480:26:54

think about it, to be honest. When I

do speak about it, I'm so thankful

0:26:540:26:58

for all the surgeons and doctors for

actually keeping me alive.

0:26:580:27:11

Let's reflect on the start you have

made under way you have adapted

0:27:190:27:22

Brighton to Premier league live.

I

think we have adapted very well. We

0:27:220:27:27

started the campaign with arguably

the toughest that you might have. We

0:27:270:27:32

lost a game against Manchester City

but we fared well, and I think that

0:27:320:27:36

started us off on a good footing.

Since then, I think we've adapted

0:27:360:27:40

quite well.

What about this centre

half partnership?

I have to say that

0:27:400:27:48

they both deserve it. They are

playing well and playing in a good

0:27:480:27:52

unit. We know that can change. They

had to make sure they keep the

0:27:520:27:58

levels they have done. They are to

make good individuals. In some ways,

0:27:580:28:02

old-fashioned centre half is, but

they would also say they have played

0:28:020:28:06

in a good unit around them.

It is a

pleasure to play alongside him. We

0:28:060:28:11

complement each other quite well.

Sometimes, you put two players

0:28:110:28:17

together like that and it clicks. At

the minute, it is working well and

0:28:170:28:21

I'm enjoying playing with him.

What

do you think he would say about you?

0:28:210:28:26

I don't know! He is quite down to

earth. It's been good.

The job that

0:28:260:28:36

Chris Hughton is doing - how key is

he to that togetherness that he has

0:28:360:28:42

built?

He keeps everyone grounded.

He is one of them good managers who

0:28:420:28:46

can keep everyone happy and get

everyone together. It is working at

0:28:460:28:49

the minute and hopefully it can

continue.

To be mid-table after ten

0:28:490:28:53

games this season, that goes to show

how good you actually are.

It is

0:28:530:28:59

just belief in the squad, from the

manager down. Mid-table, not getting

0:28:590:29:04

too carried away. There is a tough

league, and it is not a massive

0:29:040:29:08

difference between the bottom three

and where we are, so we have to keep

0:29:080:29:12

ahead of ourselves. Another big game

on Saturday. If we can get a bigger

0:29:120:29:18

gap, that would be good.

0:29:180:29:29

Here we are at Boreham Wood for the

first round of the FA Cup. On Shane

0:29:290:29:32

Duffy, always amazing when you hear

an emotional back story. He is

0:29:320:29:37

playing great football for Brighton

and his country.

Anyone who saw his

0:29:370:29:42

performance against Wales in Cardiff

last month, it was an incredible

0:29:420:29:45

performance from him. He's getting

better and better, growing into the

0:29:450:29:50

mole of a Paul McGrath, Richard

Dunston. He has been that good. --

0:29:500:29:54

into the mould.

He has been like a

magnet. Good centre halves, that are

0:29:540:30:04

getting better, they become a magnet

to the ball and nowhere to go when

0:30:040:30:07

the ball is in a position on the

pitch.

0:30:070:30:17

Republic of Ireland have a play-off

against Denmark.

I am nervous, I am

0:30:170:30:23

going to Copenhagen next weekend. I

am nervy, because of the form of

0:30:230:30:27

Eriksen, as well, that's going to be

a fact nor the game. People are

0:30:270:30:31

saying we have the best draw. We

have everything going in our favour.

0:30:310:30:34

I don't necessarily see it like

that. We have had a history of

0:30:340:30:39

losing big play-off matches.

You

would rather have the first leg at

0:30:390:30:43

home and have something to hold on

to.

I would have done. The way it's

0:30:430:30:48

gone, on the Martin O'Neill as well,

we have put in good performances

0:30:480:30:53

away from home. I would prefer to

get, hopefully, a home win and go

0:30:530:30:57

away to defend something. But it's

not that way. Many see it the other

0:30:570:31:00

way around.

It's nice to have

something there. Always nice to have

0:31:000:31:03

it there so you can tighten the grip

on it. Pull the ranks when you need

0:31:030:31:09

to defend, defend well.

It's a small

issue. You have to do it over the

0:31:090:31:14

course.

We publish the Republic and

Northern Ireland... No excuses. One

0:31:140:31:17

thing I have noticed you don't want

to celebrate a goal from a sat down

0:31:170:31:21

position here. Do you?

No chance!

Makes you leave the dugout before

0:31:210:31:28

you go wild. We talked about the

Republic of Ireland.

0:31:280:31:34

There are four Republic stars

in the squad at Burnley.

0:31:340:31:36

One of them, Jeff Hendrick,

0:31:360:31:37

scored the only goal

of the game in a 1-0 win

0:31:370:31:40

against Newcastle on Monday night.

0:31:400:31:44

His second of the season. Lots of

rumours still about Sean Dyche.

0:31:440:31:49

Could he be on his way to Everton?

We will talk about that later.

0:31:490:31:56

Burnley travel to Southampton this

afternoon and John Motson

0:31:560:31:58

is at St Mary's for Match of the Day

as part of his farewell tour.

0:31:580:32:02

John, you've got an old

friend alongside you.

0:32:020:32:03

Afternoon, John.

Well, yes. I go back a long way with

0:32:030:32:12

this man. A legend in Southampton

because of the FA Cup and everything

0:32:120:32:17

else. Lawrie, it's FA Cup day today,

I am going to take you back to

0:32:170:32:23

February 1966. England haven't even

won the World Cup at this stage. I

0:32:230:32:27

am a junior reporter on a local

paper in Finchley, MrsThatcher's

0:32:270:32:32

constituency.

And I was at school.

No, you were the manager of Bishop

0:32:320:32:42

Auckland, you brought them to

Finchley.

Happy days.

We got to know

0:32:420:32:46

each other at Grimsby. I came to do

a Football Focus story, the kind of

0:32:460:32:51

thing we see every week. You were a

young manager, when I left you, you

0:32:510:32:56

put a bag of something in my case.

Well, yes.

Do you remember?

Fish.

0:32:560:33:01

Bob Abrahams, bless him, was with

you. That's what Grimsby used to do.

0:33:010:33:05

They even did it in the referees'

room. Three boxes of fish before the

0:33:050:33:11

game and eventually someone a--

someone reported it as an illegal

0:33:110:33:16

approach. Best place in the world

for fish.

Now 76 and your great

0:33:160:33:22

moment. FA Cup final. Southampton

have beaten Manchester United. I am

0:33:220:33:26

still a reporter in those days. The

tension between BBC and ITV, you

0:33:260:33:30

wouldn't believe as to who could get

the manager with the FA Cup trophy

0:33:300:33:35

into the interview room. This is

Bobby Stokes scoring the goal nobody

0:33:350:33:40

will ever forget. My job is to get

the winning manager in front of a

0:33:400:33:44

camera as quickly as possible. You

and I walked down the tunnel

0:33:440:33:47

together. You had the FA Cup in your

hand.

That's right.

I remember

0:33:470:33:52

somebody threw something, it wasn't

a Southampton fan, it knocked my

0:33:520:33:56

glasses to the floor. You know what

you did?

I picked them up and I was

0:33:560:34:00

going to run away. You were quicker

than me.

You put them back on. All

0:34:000:34:05

the boys in the studio are saying

why don't they talk about the modern

0:34:050:34:09

game here? All about yesterday we

are doing.

Absolutely, why not.

I

0:34:090:34:13

will ask about the modern game.

Managers now don't keep jobs as long

0:34:130:34:16

as they did in your day.

It's

different, it's not the game as we

0:34:160:34:20

knew it, it's more of a business. I

don't think they're managers now,

0:34:200:34:24

they're coaches. They're from abroad

most of them, they know they're not

0:34:240:34:28

going to stay as long as we did. I

was here 12 years, Ted before 18

0:34:280:34:32

years. Doesn't happen any more. You

have to win every game. Get the sack

0:34:320:34:39

after four games is ridiculous.

I

was going to give you one last

0:34:390:34:41

question about the game but I am

going to go backwards and say you

0:34:410:34:44

are still in touch with Tommy

Doherty, the manager you beat in

0:34:440:34:48

that Cup final. He is 89 years old.

Sharp as a tack still. Good

0:34:480:34:53

one-liners. He won it the next year.

He did.

After us. John, before we

0:34:530:34:59

go, you are a living legend and we

will all miss you, I am sure clubs

0:34:590:35:03

like this will give you a ticket.

I

hope so, Lawrie, thank you.

0:35:030:35:08

We will never shut you up, Motty, we

love the memories. Love them looking

0:35:080:35:13

back. Let's talk about Sean Dyche.

Would he be a good fit at Everton.

0:35:130:35:18

Apologies to Burnley fans. It's a

rumour out there and people are

0:35:180:35:21

talking.

Hard to ignore. He is top

of the list with Sam as well. I

0:35:210:35:26

think Sean could go and manage at

Everton without any qualms

0:35:260:35:30

whatsoever. He has the mentality and

experience. I would hate to see him

0:35:300:35:35

leave Burnley, he is doing a great

job and he is a loyal man. I would

0:35:350:35:40

be surprised if he did.

He tends to

employee people from the lower

0:35:400:35:46

leagues. I want to ask - you know

that experience. From a Sunderland

0:35:460:35:51

point of view, also looking for a

permanent manager. What a monumental

0:35:510:35:57

mess at the minute. Grayson was

sacked after the last game.

That's

0:35:570:36:04

disrespectful as well, nine in six

years. It is crazy. But I don't know

0:36:040:36:09

who could have gone in and done a

different job and don't know how the

0:36:090:36:12

culture of the club and the club is

going to change going forward.

0:36:120:36:16

Something dramatic needs to change

within that club to get the club on

0:36:160:36:20

an upward...

The foundation, don't

know how you can have a solid base

0:36:200:36:24

to move on from, it keeps getting

moved.

There is talk of others in

0:36:240:36:30

the championship of experience but

we will see.

Sunderland fans

0:36:300:36:33

miserable at the moment.

0:36:330:36:40

You can keep up to date

with all the weekend's events

0:36:400:36:43

with a double dose of Final Score

which starts today at ten

0:36:430:36:46

past four on BBC One.

0:36:460:36:48

Then watch all the Premier League

action on Match of the Day at 10.30

0:36:480:36:51

and Match of the Day

two is tomorrow.

0:36:510:36:53

Before that, a bumper FA Cup

highlights show on BBC Two

0:36:530:36:55

featuring first round ties.

0:36:550:36:56

We've had three already.

0:36:560:36:58

Including MK Dons, of League 1,

taking on eighth tier Hyde United.

0:36:580:37:00

You watched that as well. Lots of

people talking about the flairs on

0:37:000:37:03

the pitch. The referee spoet to both

managers at half-time and -- spoke.

0:37:030:37:09

And spoke about the importance of

that. Any fan taking anything of

0:37:090:37:13

that nature into the game can face a

three-year ban. When the game kicked

0:37:130:37:18

off this is what happened.

The first night of the FA Cup first

0:37:180:37:27

round.

Oh, that's a brilliant effort

and MK Dons lead.

0:37:270:37:40

Mk Dons are comfortably moving into

round two.

0:37:550:38:00

Elsewhere last night port Vale

managed to upset Oxford. And Tom

0:38:000:38:07

Pope added the second. Miserable

night for Oxford, didn't manage a

0:38:070:38:11

single shot on target. Also the

league two leaders Notts with a

0:38:110:38:19

great result. It was John Stead who

put them ahead. George Grant made

0:38:190:38:26

sure that Notts are in Monday's

draw. Lovely finish under the

0:38:260:38:30

goalkeeper.

They also go into round two.

0:38:300:38:40

Today's visitors Blackpool

are 12th in League One,

0:38:410:38:43

46 places above Boreham Wood,

who currently lie tenth

0:38:430:38:46

in the National League.

0:38:460:38:50

We are back in the bar with... I am

sure you are going to go wild at

0:38:500:38:57

this point, Boreham Wood fans. Come

on!

0:38:570:39:07

They're excited about this and you

should be too. Unbeaten in seven,

0:39:070:39:09

are you on a good run, why can't you

do it this afternoon?

Yeah, we are

0:39:090:39:13

obviously hoping it can be us. Every

year there is a team from the lower

0:39:130:39:17

divisions that makes it through. We

are hoping, obviously it's a tough

0:39:170:39:20

test, they're going well in league

one, and yeah, we are hopeful, we

0:39:200:39:25

have good players and hope we can

cause an upset.

You both play at the

0:39:250:39:31

back. How important is it to making

sure the old classic early goal, but

0:39:310:39:35

keep it as tight as you can back

there? I like the way you work

0:39:350:39:43

together boys!

It's a big part of

the foundation obviously, as a

0:39:430:39:51

defence I have been playing there

this season and we want more clean

0:39:510:39:54

sheets. Today's going to be a tough

test for us, but hopefully we can

0:39:540:40:00

build off a solid defensive

performance today.

In terms of the

0:40:000:40:04

old dreams, the manager said he

didn't sleep particularly well, the

0:40:040:40:07

FA Cup is here, is there a part of

you thinking seven games away from

0:40:070:40:12

winning this? That's part of the FA

Cup.

Go on, you talk. Me again.

0:40:120:40:22

Every year there is a team that will

go through the rounds and take a big

0:40:220:40:26

draw. I was lucky enough to be

involved in one a few years back and

0:40:260:40:31

got Manchester United. I know what's

in it for the lower league teams

0:40:310:40:35

like ourselves. Again hopefully

today is again going to be a tough

0:40:350:40:39

test, we can't look beyond that. If

we do, then hopefully there will and

0:40:390:40:44

big reward.

Who is the talker?

Silent assassin.

It's all a bit too

0:40:440:40:52

much today.

Be honest, are you

nervous?

I am not nervous myself,

0:40:520:40:56

the cameras are here. Hopefully we

are here for a good reason, for a

0:40:560:41:00

shock.

Would you like to say

something about that as well?

Yeah,

0:41:000:41:06

I think this comes around once a

year and captures everyone's

0:41:060:41:09

imagination. It's a massive

competition for teams like us who

0:41:090:41:13

can get a massive reward and again

hopefully we can be the one. Always

0:41:130:41:17

two or three and hopefully he can be

the one this year. -- we can be the

0:41:170:41:24

one this year.

Has the build-up

frightened you, have you relished

0:41:240:41:28

it? Who wants to answer that one

To

be fair it hasn't, you guys here, I

0:41:280:41:33

think you are here because you might

see a shock and hopefully you do.

0:41:330:41:36

Listen, it's great to have you both

on. I am sure they'll be cheering

0:41:360:41:39

you on this afternoon. All the best.

We will let you enjoy it.

0:41:390:41:51

We are less than ten

miles from Wembley.

0:41:510:41:52

Five hours in London traffic.

0:41:520:41:54

That's where England play Germany

and then Brazil next week as part

0:41:540:41:57

of their preparations

for the World Cup next year.

0:41:570:42:01

Manager Gareth Southgate called up

the uncapped Tammy Abraham,

0:42:010:42:03

Joe Gomez and Ruben Loftus-Cheek

to his squad on a week

0:42:030:42:06

in which the next generation

of English talent has been in focus.

0:42:060:42:09

All this after the under-17s only

went and won the World Cup.

0:42:090:42:18

What a day, one game from glory and

the biggest day in these teenagers'

0:42:180:42:25

lives.

0:42:250:42:26

Looking to cut it back and then

touched by Gomez. Danger here. Gomez

0:42:280:42:35

again. Spain lead 2-0.

0:42:350:42:39

Brewster, to get one back for

England! Beautiful pass. There is

0:42:430:42:51

England's

0:42:510:42:51

Can he get it across? He can!

England in front. For the first time

0:42:530:42:58

in the final. It's far from finished

this game. It's headed back. Can

0:42:580:43:04

they finish it off? Foden is on. Can

it get better for England? Foden!

0:43:040:43:12

The party can begin now. After 51

years without one, two World Cups in

0:43:120:43:16

four months. England are the

under-17 World Cup winners.

Joining

0:43:160:43:24

us now is the FA chief executive.

Lovely to have you on the programme.

0:43:240:43:29

Let's talk about that success. Not

only under-17s, we have had the

0:43:290:43:36

under-19s, under-20s and 21 as well,

what's been the catalyst for that

0:43:360:43:38

success?

Hard work. A lot of

investment from the FA. St George's

0:43:380:43:45

Park is five years old next month.

Dan and the team have spent a lot of

0:43:450:43:50

time putting all of the development

teams from under-15 through to 21,

0:43:500:43:55

to international tournaments, we

have so much more experience of

0:43:550:43:58

playing abroad and winning and

actually, it's been a brilliant

0:43:580:44:02

summer. Also unprecedented, no other

country has won under-20 World Cup,

0:44:020:44:07

under-17 World Cup and a Euro

competition. It is good for the

0:44:070:44:11

future.

The crucial thing is that

everyone is asking, what about the

0:44:110:44:15

breakthrough into the Premier League

sides? If you look at the

0:44:150:44:18

statistics, overwhelmingly those

players who go on to be successful

0:44:180:44:21

make the debuts when they're under

the age of 20. That's got to happen,

0:44:210:44:24

hasn't it?

You are absolutely right.

One of the challenges and problems

0:44:240:44:29

about running a national team in

England is that the Premier League

0:44:290:44:31

is so successful and it's a massive

global success, it has huge amounts

0:44:310:44:35

of money and you can attract talent

from all over the world. To break

0:44:350:44:40

into a first team you have to be

really good. But it's interesting, a

0:44:400:44:44

number of the under-20s players are

now working and playing abroad.

0:44:440:44:50

Jaden who we lost in the under-17s,

one of our star players left after

0:44:500:44:56

the group phase. I think the players

are so good they're going to get

0:44:560:45:01

picked up and want to play.

Broader

issues to discuss, it has been a

0:45:010:45:05

bruising few weeks for your

association and many will have seen

0:45:050:45:08

you in front of the Select Committee

as well. Importantly, what's going

0:45:080:45:11

to change, what will we see as a

difference to the Football

0:45:110:45:14

Association after that encounter?

Well, I mean, I was brought into

0:45:140:45:18

change the Football Association

two-and-a-half years ago and it's a

0:45:180:45:21

massive organisation. It's like

turning around a super tanker. The

0:45:210:45:24

big area of change was make it more

open, more in tune with the 21st

0:45:240:45:28

century football and society and

it's a big job to do. Clearly we

0:45:280:45:31

have had to learn lessons about how

to deal with elite athletes who

0:45:310:45:36

raise a grievance. It's unchartered

ground for us. What's going to be

0:45:360:45:39

different is we are working with UK

Sport, this issue is something a lt

0:45:390:45:43

of other sports are facing and by

Christmas there will be a new

0:45:430:45:47

grievance procedure and a new

whistle-blowing procedure which is

0:45:470:45:50

fit for purpose for an elite athlete

able to challenge their employer.

0:45:500:45:58

Fundamental questions about

the organisation have been asked.

0:45:580:46:00

Even if the FA is fit for purpose.

0:46:000:46:03

If you understand the FA, it is

massively fit for purpose. If you

0:46:030:46:07

have ten minutes, I will explain

everything. There is hidden work we

0:46:070:46:12

do. The success of the England

development programme absolutely

0:46:120:46:17

shows, the investment we are putting

in the game, the investment in new

0:46:170:46:22

pictures up and down the country,

improving Wembley Stadium - lots of

0:46:220:46:26

stuff we do.

Have you at any point

ask yourself if you are the right

0:46:260:46:37

person for the job?

I was brought in

to change the FA, and it takes time.

0:46:370:46:42

I am committed. I love football, I

have been on the board of the

0:46:420:46:47

professional club and I know what

it's like, and I know that football

0:46:470:46:50

in England needs to change. It needs

to be more in tune with 21st-century

0:46:500:46:55

society, learn from other sports and

other countries. We are making

0:46:550:46:59

progress. The success of those

development teams, winning trophies,

0:46:590:47:03

that shows that progress is being

made.

Weekends like this

0:47:030:47:08

reinvigorate everyone's love the

game, because there is something

0:47:080:47:11

special about this stage of the FA

Cup.

There is, and the BBC do a

0:47:110:47:17

great job on promoting it. Five

years ago, Delle Alli made his debut

0:47:170:47:22

for MK Dons. I watched him playing

brilliantly against Madrid on

0:47:220:47:25

Wednesday night. This is the heart

of football. No other country in the

0:47:250:47:34

world has the depth of football

pyramid that we have got, where you

0:47:340:47:37

can get from the very bottom to the

top, which I think is brilliant. The

0:47:370:47:41

FA Cup allows that because the prize

money goes all the way down the

0:47:410:47:46

leagues. You set us up perfectly for

our FA Cup road trip.

0:47:460:47:59

We get a chance to see some clubs

whose football normally goes under

0:48:070:48:11

the radar. This team was taken over

by a football website whose members

0:48:110:48:19

were allowed to pick that a man have

a say on transfers. They entertain

0:48:190:48:28

Doncaster Rovers. How inspired have

you been and have inspired art the

0:48:280:48:32

players by what happened last

season?

We thought, someone will do

0:48:320:48:38

it this season from our division.

Someone will cause a shock, and

0:48:380:48:45

hopefully at us -- hopefully its

ass.

How old are you?

How old -- too

0:48:450:48:58

old. 34.

Having had such a dart-mac

I was with him for a long time and

0:48:580:49:06

had a lot of success with him. It

will be a tough test against

0:49:060:49:09

Doncaster, who are a good team. The

way we play, we have faith that we

0:49:090:49:15

can give a good account of

ourselves. At home, we have a good

0:49:150:49:19

chance.

Welcome to Dartford, who had

been in fan ownership for 25 years.

0:49:190:49:28

Their manager has been with them

almost as long, and playing for the

0:49:280:49:34

National League South leaders

against league to Swindon will be an

0:49:340:49:38

international goalkeeper. Be honest,

had you been to Gibraltar before you

0:49:380:49:42

got the call?

No. I have heard a lot

about it. Visiting the place, no.

I

0:49:420:49:52

can't get over the contrast between

playing National League South games

0:49:520:49:55

here and then lining up against Eden

Hazard in a World Cup qualifier. It

0:49:550:50:01

is a hell of a stretch.

It is, and

it is great for me, and for my

0:50:010:50:08

family even better, they get to

travel and watch. It is good that I

0:50:080:50:11

have done it with Dartford. I have

been here a long time and I wouldn't

0:50:110:50:14

want to do with nowhere else.

Do you

allow yourself to dream that it

0:50:140:50:19

could be your year, you with those

tremendous scenes?

Last year, we

0:50:190:50:24

played satin in the first round, and

if someone would have said that they

0:50:240:50:28

would go wanted the -- would go on

to do what they did, I would have

0:50:280:50:35

laughed. -- we played satin. --

Sutton.

Our final bus is not

0:50:350:50:49

available, if only our next team had

a black cab driving defender to

0:50:490:50:52

collect me...

I will take you, make!

Heybridge swifts are one of the

0:50:520:51:00

smallest teams in round one. The

Essex club have never been beyond

0:51:000:51:04

this stage and visit an Exeter City

team for nearly 100 places higher.

0:51:040:51:10

They boast Olly Murs amongst their

former players, and thankfully, this

0:51:100:51:14

fellow is one of their current ones.

I always think this is a brilliant

0:51:140:51:18

profession for a part-time

footballer, because you can build

0:51:180:51:20

your hours flexibly around again.

Definitely. You can work when you

0:51:200:51:25

want when you are rack caddy, so it

is good to play football and do that

0:51:250:51:30

in the back.

This is a family

industry because not only did your

0:51:300:51:35

old man work here is, but you played

for Exeter as well.

Yeah, and a few

0:51:350:51:43

other clubs as well. It will be a

big occasion for these boys down

0:51:430:51:48

here.

Have you been involved in

giant killings yourself?

I was at

0:51:480:51:54

Wimbledon when we won the cup.

Amongst that squad?

Absolutely, a

0:51:540:52:00

long time ago now. To be around

these guys and to see the importance

0:52:000:52:04

of that draw, it is quite humbling,

really, to pull everything together

0:52:040:52:08

and go, the FA Cup is still massive.

For these peoples to go and get a

0:52:080:52:13

result against Exeter on Sunday, it

will be phenomenal.

Were thinking we

0:52:130:52:17

could get something. We won't just

make up the numbers. We are thinking

0:52:170:52:21

we can get a result. If we done that

it would be incredible. Hopefully we

0:52:210:52:30

can make a bit of history.

Tell your

grandchildren - you'll be driving

0:52:300:52:36

around in this thing and you won't

be able to shut up about it.

0:52:360:52:42

Let's have a look at some of those

first round fixtures then,

0:52:420:52:45

seventh tier Shaw Lane are already

underway against Mansfield..

0:52:450:52:49

The big one here at Boreham Wood

kicks off at three,

0:52:490:52:52

as do the all non-league ties

between Gainsborough and Slough,

0:52:520:52:58

and Gateshead versus Chelmsford.

0:52:580:53:00

Nantwich of National League North

will be looking to shock Stevenage.

0:53:000:53:03

Tomorrow.

0:53:030:53:04

Truro City, the first

Cornish side to reach

0:53:040:53:06

the first round since 1969.

0:53:060:53:07

Who were the last ones?

0:53:070:53:08

Falmouth Town?

0:53:080:53:09

Beaten 4-1 by Peterborough.

0:53:090:53:11

They go to Charlton -

74 places separate those two.

0:53:110:53:13

There's an all seventh tier clash

between Letherhead and Billericay.

0:53:130:53:15

And as we've just seen Dartford

and Heybridge will be looking

0:53:150:53:18

to upset Swindon and Exeter.

0:53:180:53:19

And you can see the goals

from those Sunday games

0:53:190:53:22

as they go in on Final Score,

before Monday's all-important

0:53:220:53:24

second round draw.

0:53:240:53:27

Before that, Match of

the Day 2 Extra is on.

0:53:270:53:36

And look out for a special

documentary being

0:53:360:53:38

shown next weekend.

0:53:380:53:42

It is one of the simple pleasures,

messing around with the football. I

0:53:420:53:50

did it for a living. It doesn't

hurt. There's plenty that happens on

0:53:500:53:55

the field that does hurt, but not

this. This seems 1 million miles

0:53:550:54:00

away from this.

You get a loss of

normal brain function.

I want more

0:54:000:54:07

information.

A footballer doesn't

expect to die at 59 brain damage.

It

0:54:070:54:13

is a disgrace, how they have covered

it up.

Could the game I love playing

0:54:130:54:18

actually kill me?

A great programme,

that. Alan has spent the entire year

0:54:180:54:23

working on that, so well worth your

time. Boreham Wood take on

0:54:230:54:28

Blackpool. We have got to mention

the opposition. Matt is here from

0:54:280:54:34

the Blackpool Gazette. This is a

club with great history,

0:54:340:54:38

particularly in this competition,

and yet, in the last few years it

0:54:380:54:40

has been terrible for Blackpool.

On

the field, they have done well in

0:54:400:54:45

terms of promotion. The ship is

steady.

But the fans aren't happy?

0:54:450:54:50

No. The fans are boycotting the home

games so that back-up of the ticket

0:54:500:55:04

price doesn't go to the owning

family.

Monday is a significant day.

0:55:040:55:08

The family could be left with a bill

which meant they pulled away from

0:55:080:55:12

the club.

A big day. The fans are

thinking this could be their big

0:55:120:55:15

hope. One investor has said he has

not had his fair share of the money.

0:55:150:55:34

On the pitch, everyone is dreaming

of an upset. Blackpool want to get

0:55:340:55:37

it right and get them quick, really.

It is a club that has gone seriously

0:55:370:55:41

downhill. I was a precedent fan, and

they were envious Blackpool fans. He

0:55:410:55:53

has used discriminatory terms, he

has addressed people a certain way

0:55:530:55:59

in public, Mr Austin. It has been

extremely poor.

I want to mention

0:55:590:56:03

the glory days, because we have a

special guest today. The Blackpool

0:56:030:56:09

final, the Matthews final, 1953 -

ladies and gentlemen, and Dawson,

0:56:090:56:14

who was there. Your grandson Harry

is here. We will see some pictures

0:56:140:56:22

from that game in 1953. How old were

you and what do you remember?

I

0:56:220:56:26

remember everything about it. I saw

it live, and when we came home on

0:56:260:56:35

Sunday, I saw the repeat as well.

What was it like as an occasion?

It

0:56:350:56:40

was fantastic, because we were

losing at half-time, and then it

0:56:400:56:44

became 4-3.

As a Blackpool fan at

the time, everyone remembers it as a

0:56:440:56:49

Matthews final, but we forget the

hat-trick.

Absolutely. They were all

0:56:490:56:55

fantastic, the 11 of them.

Who do

you support these days? Have you

0:56:550:56:59

drifted away from Blackpool?

Because

I moved back to London in 1954, I

0:56:590:57:04

now support Chelsea.

We understand

the change of allegiance. Harry,

0:57:040:57:15

your grandson is Boreham Wood fan.

We were having a chat before the

0:57:150:57:26

programme, and you told us that your

grandmother was at the final in

0:57:260:57:30

1953.

It is a moment in history, and

both about local clubs get to meet

0:57:300:57:34

each other. It's brilliant.

From

your perspective, careful what you

0:57:340:57:39

say, because you are surrounded by

Boreham Wood fans... Who is calling

0:57:390:57:45

you? Someone is saying, I can see

you on the telly! What will be the

0:57:450:57:49

result today? Might there be an

upset the Boreham Wood?

I hope it's

0:57:490:57:53

Blackpool. You never know with

Blackpool these days. I'm hoping.

0:57:530:57:58

It's great to talk to you. Thank you

very much. Lovely to see you, Harry.

0:57:580:58:05

Thank you to all our guests. Thanks

to Boreham Wood for such a warm

0:58:050:58:09

welcome. Thanks to you lot - you

been brilliant. For some reason,

0:58:090:58:12

we're going to leave you with some

wrestlers. See you next week.

0:58:120:58:18

Goodbye!

0:58:180:58:20

We have come to set the bar. Massive

Liverpool fan since I was eight

0:58:310:58:35

years old. Wayne Rooney is a class

act as usual.

As you can tell,

0:58:350:58:47

Seamus does not hold a grudge at

all.

1-3.

0-0.

0- seven. Let's be

0:58:470:59:07

honest.

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