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Will come to the Late Kick Off. It has all changed on the managerial

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front, and some changes for us, as well. Cobblers in crisis, rock

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bottom of the Football League. Special report on Northampton's

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fight for survival. There is very hard to the bottom of the Football

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League. And Paul Gill insists she will decide his own fate at Portman

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Road. And who needs Graham Westley, as the boss moves on to pastures

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new, it is business as usual for goal happy Stevenage. The land will

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come to Late Kick-Off. Back on Monday nights from now through to

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the end of the season. I am joined by Perry Groves. Essex boys. Don't

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give me a lot of confidence! And a long side him, Lyon Mackenzie, who

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has played for virtually every team in the league! Plenty of highs and

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lows, as ever, but we're starting at the bottom and working our way

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up. The League 2 table does not make good reading for Northampton

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Town fans. The threat of dropping out of the Football League is all

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too real. Northampton face a tough fight to avoid relegation as James

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Burridge reports. In football, you win some, you lose some. Get kicked

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out of the football began you lose a lot. Getting relegated is the

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worst thing that can happen. �700,000 worse off. You go to

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places you just don't want to go to. When it is going wrong it is

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sometimes difficult to retrieve. Stick and say what Tristan spend?

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At Northampton Town, they have done both. But the wheel is still

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spinning. Over �7 million we have spent, to be bottom of the Football

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League. We last season, Northampton down flirted with relegation. This

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season they are having a full-blown affair with it. It is an absolute

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disaster. You look at the teams that go down and have a comeback.

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We could do the same. I have supported them for a long time and

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they would take to see them go down after all this time. You can not

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imagine what might happen if they were to get relegated, would they

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come straight back up? It is tough, they would it was a lot of relegate

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-- revenue. The future hangs heavy over a man who has endured a

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miserable few years. Despite spending big, the chairman of

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Northampton Town has been left counting the cost. We have put

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350,000 more on the wage bill from the previous season on the basis

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that we wanted to go up. We had a clean sheet to bring in 20 odd

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players, to give it a real go. And we were bottom of the leak two

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weeks ago, so yes. A overdue be affected if you were to go down?

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a club? Typical to say. I suspect off. When we got relegated from

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League 1, to League 2, they lost almost �800,000 of income, or one

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night. He did that affect the club? We are still here, that is a

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success, just surviving. But the difference is, to do that again,

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where Rovers costs come from? That will be a difficult one. It is a

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massive gamble, as a chairman, isn't it? You are throwing money at

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something and you do not know if you're going to get any return.

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is up impossible job, financially, to get it right. Of course it does.

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Clubs in League to receive �430,000 from the Football League and

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relegated clubs get half of the summer but only for one season and

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lose �180,000 per season towards youth development programmes. The

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payments will last two seasons. Cambridge United Darren the 6th

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season in the Blue Square premier. They have but been forced to cut

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their cloth accordingly. We were in despair. It came as a culture shock

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to us but there are so many League clubs in this position and

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invariably, one or other has a rich benefactor that helps them get out.

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But the standard of this league now is phenomenal. So many clubs are in

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a situation of unique survival at this stage. On days of 2500, you

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can get some good friends of mine due and it is about getting through

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this period. Survival first, promotion second? Yes, if we make

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the play-offs, it exceeds expectations for this year, bearing

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in mind our budget. After the first sort of season I think we struggled.

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We have seen bigger league clubs were down but because they are

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financial basket cases. It is a smaller clubs that are going up. We

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have saw that, but they don't have the money. This is the reality of

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life in the Conference. Cambridge United against them so would have

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been a Football League fixture, but now these are two sides and their

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smaller crowds are learning how to do it the hard way. Coming out of

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this division is very tough. And it takes a lot of expense. In League 2

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we had something like 44 players, that was throwing money at that,

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and it did not work. Deja remember the first few weeks and a

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conference? It was a horrible feeling. The impact is huge on the

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community. That is what brings the pressure. If it was all about a

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football game there is always winners and losers but when it

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comes to relegation to the Blue Square Bet Premier, your side in

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your town affecting your community, it is massive. The Championship was

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not necessarily ruled out, thumped and down a couple of seasons ago,

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and money has been thrown at this club, and all it has got them is to

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the foot of League 2. How much has it cost usage you have been running

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this place? We have spent over �7 million now, to the bottom of the

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Football League. 7 million. That is a huge amount of money. Yes, not

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just to be in League 2, but bottom of League 2. It is your heart still

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in it? It is, it has had a battering in the last year, but we

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are here, and we will keep going. If I knew what I know now when I

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first came here, we would be in the Championship now, I am pretty sure

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of that. Some people say you should try to safeguard your status in

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League 2, or to get promotion, you have to spend money. That is not

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true. I have done both. chairman said he has put 7 million

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Townson to the football club. It is a lot of money. If it was not for

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him there would not be a football club. I don't call it the

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Conference, I call it the vision to be, because if you look at it now

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there are 11 teams that have been in the Football League and 16 of

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them are full-time, so it is not easy to get back up again. They is

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important that the chairman stays there, he has been a big part of

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the football club for the last decade. He said there, he is harder

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still in it. He has got that passion for the club. As long as

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his heart is still in it they can turn it around. He said if he knew

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then what he does now he would be in the Championship, and you have

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to get the right managers, so he has had Gary Johnson, Aidy

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Boothroyd is there, he is bottom, but Aidy Boothroyd will get the

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more organised, structured, and fitcorner. You were there on the

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Gary Johnson and he did not see eye to eye with him. A unfortunately

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not. Sometimes the manager comes in and you do not see eye-to-eye. I

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was top goalscorer that the time. It was important for me to play. I

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did not play in a situation but my argument to him was at the end of

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the season, I said you have got strikers here that have played over

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40 games and not got into double figures. I got into double figures

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and played 17 games. It depends how the manager wants to analyse things.

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And one man can define your position, which is a shame. We have

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seen clubs going down and not coming back. It is not easy to get

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back into the Football League when she fall-out. You lose have the

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money, you get half the money for two seasons, so you need a

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benefactor. He said he has done that and it does not work, either.

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Aidy Boothroyd is experienced and will give youngsters some chances.

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Penises experienced players to take the pressure of the youngsters.

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This was a good start. Yes, John Johnson puts them 1-0 up. That

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should give them confidence for the rest of the game. Looking for their

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first victory in 15 matches and that is going to give them

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confidence. And it did, and the first half. Some dodgy defending a,

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and that was a decent finish, and then, to be fair, they got

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themselves back in front again. have watched them a few times and

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there are a lot of defending errors. This is a good finish. I like him.

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When I go to watch him play, he works hard, he walks the Charles

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really well. When things are going against you, I don't think that is

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a penalty kick in a million years. He just collides with the consent.

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Dickinson gets there first. When you are at the top of the league,

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you get those decisions. Of this goal goes in it is 2-2, just after

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half-time. And it is difficult, then, isn't it? When you are in are

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losing luck, your confidence starts to Road. And you have a lot of bad

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luck. The decent free kick from Jacobs, good save from Morris. And

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then, another great free kick, more us with no chance, goes inside a

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post and comes out. Another chance, just wide. When things are going

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against you you need one of these two Going for you. Like that one.

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That was a little more that pops up when you hope that that is going

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towards the goal and that is the way things are running for

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Northampton at the moment. 10 hours to go, so it then scored three

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goals. Yes, it was a good cross. And the substitute who had just

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come on. Windsor event gets in a position to bring the game back to

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2-2, they are going to go on to win the game because of the position

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they are in the league. -- when Southend gets in a position. Do you

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think he is the right man to take Northampton forward, they Aidy

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Boothroyd? I know him quite well. He is an organised manager. He gets

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the best out of his players. I personally think he has to bring a

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couple in, but this is the question. David said he spent �7 million. And

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they are at the bottom of League 2. That 5 to win a means the Shrimpers

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are at the top of League Two with a great chance of going straight back

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up. Shrews be around beaten at home. Two will be a tough one for them.

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Yes it is tough. I hope they get their confidence. Southend Borough

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fantastic side. I know some of the players there and it is a good side.

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De you think they can go up? think they can. They are the best

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in the away wins. They are organised and structured with good

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team spirit. They are difficult to beat. They can score a couple.

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you are fighting for vast top spot, you need that in your squad. You

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need to be able to bring on players that can score goals. You move the

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squad about and everybody is happy. It seems to be a good and tight

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unit. Next League One and the leak -- MK Dons chairman confirmed they

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would be funding tickets and travel for Carlisle fans on the back of a

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postponement. Hugely embarrassed. We have tried to do something about

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it. We have announced that we will refund all the Carlisle fans their

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tickets and we will give them a free ticket. We will enable them to

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bring a friend to the game and we will put on two coaches from

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Carlisle so hopefully we are making a real effort to try and make sure

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that the Carlisle fans that can get to the game will be able to be

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there. For our own supporters as well who had a miserable day and

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made an unnecessary visit, we are going to have bring a friend for

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free so why hope we can get some positive out of what was one of the

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darkest days for us. A bit embarrassed there. It is a great

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gesture is and it to pay for travel and tickets. He will have been

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absolutely devastated because MK Dons is his baby and his vision. I

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knew full well he would give two free tickets to Carlisle fans and

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he gave them free meals at the game and he will pay for travel so you

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can ask for any more than that. It was a long trip for the Carlisle

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fans so it was not an ideal team to be playing. This is what it was

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like just two hours before the game on Saturday. It was just a small

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patch of grass. Sunshine and everybody thought the game would go

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ahead but that small area of ground was the problem. The groundsman was

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the lowest man in the world. He thought he should have put the

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covers on. Because Carlisle had travelled so far they knew why even

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more desperate to get the game on. 520 round trip for them. 520 mile

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round trip for them. The pitch has been awful. You have to call the

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picture of. It does not look as though there is a lot wrong with it,

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just a small patch. What the officials were thinking at that

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time... The food is better than at motorway service food on your way

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home at least. They had some good cuisine. A great gesture. They have

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a big game tomorrow. They drew in the FA Cup against Queens Park

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Rangers at home. Do you fancy their chances?. I do. They did really

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well and got on one all drawers were would not write them off.

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Surprise package in League One has to be Stevenage. Back-to-back

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promotions. Perhaps no surprise that he Wesley would be poached.

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His move to Preston was confirmed. There has been a lot of tears this

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week. They have won a lot of medals for themselves and the football

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club. It has been difficult. They did nothing to miss him though. A

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massive win. The Nick Freeman show. He put them one per zero up. -- 1-

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nil. -- 1-0. They went 2-0 up. It was of the far post. He has

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instilled a lot in to them as a team. They are very strong.

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Everybody knows what they are doing and that is important. One defeat

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in 16 games. It is a terrific record. The Stevenage fans were out

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last night and they contacted us. We asked if Graham Westley would be

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poaching players. There is a deal that they cannot do that -- he

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cannot do that until the end of the season. The chairman has done a

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brilliant job making sure that he cannot do that. Are you surprised

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he has gone to Preston? No, they are a bigger club with a bigger fan

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base. But Darren Ferguson went from Peterborough and then a few months

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later he came back. It is an opportunity for Graham to go there

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to a bigger club. I feel that... We will have to see in due course how

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he does. It does not necessarily mean he will do the same job that

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he did in Stevenage. They are a different team. It does not always

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work that way when he tried... He is a nine-to-five man. At Preston

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date -- they train two or three times a day. He instilled a to his

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players. It is hard work. What is next for Stevenage? Who was linked

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with the job? If Martin takes the job, he will have to be careful not

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to change too much. They are very successful and they are used to the

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routines. If I was Martin I would have somebody who was number two

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who would know all about Stevenage Football Club there was already

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there. He needs someone who knows the strengths and weaknesses.

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us have a look at the top of the table. MK Dons are in 5th position.

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Stevenage are in thick. Colchester are just propping up the top of the

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one. That is your old club, Perry. A disappointing season for them.

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Yes, they need a goalscorer. In the game on Saturday gave Scunthorpe

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they had 16 shops on target and they could not score a goal. --

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shops. It was a decent finish. Scunthorpe went 1-0 up. What do you

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think generally for Colchester this season? Mid-table do you think they

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can have a push for the play-offs? I think they are about right in the

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mid- table. I would say definitely. There have been some bad results

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against teams in our region. They lost 6-12 Stevenage. Steven

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Gillespie picks himself up and then get the penalty quite comfortably.

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Scunthorpe's goalkeeper made some fantastic get saves. But you need a

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goalkeeper. -- a goalscorer. What can Colchester fans expect? Will

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they go into the transfer market? Possibly but you have got to really

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concentrate on being in a comfortable position. If you push

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now you will have to spend some money and they need a goalscorer,

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somebody who gets bits. Peterborough have had a good season

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so far. It was disappointing at the weekend. They missed some chances.

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They have a good little squad. The actual sport in itself is good. It

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will be an interesting game against Brighton. As a squad they are

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confident. Little did brilliantly. It broke to Daniel Kearns. That is

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a foul. Anywhere on the pitch that is a penalty. A thing they had a

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rocky referee and he did not give them a lot of joy. Daniel Ferguson

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has been annoyed about not being given that. There has been contact.

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Are Peterborough punching above their weight? They look like they

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have learned from the last time they were in the championship

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because they were in experienced. They have a decent the goal scorer

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and her a lot of younger players. They will be all right in the

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championship. I think there will be OK. What a job Darren Ferguson has

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done after returning from Preston? He has come back and he is really

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enjoying it again. It is like remarrying your ex-wife. They are

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very strong characters and they have realised they are better as a

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unit and working apart. Barry is the director of football with a bit

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of experience. It is invaluable. can go one way or the other. He has

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been very fortunate to come back. It doesn't always work. I would not

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like to go back to my ex-wife! might want you back! Like I say, it

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does not always work. Talking about exes, my ex club Ipswich have had a

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funny season. They have thrown away another two-goal lead. Yes, when

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they concede, they started off really well with a good play from

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Lee Martin. They were under pressure from Jason Scotland and it

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might have been OK. It is no secret that the problems are at the back.

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There is useless defence. They have got to strengthen. When you're in

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that league, you have to strengthen at the back. It is a unit. That is

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where it comes from. They made a bid for Shaw said Leger but it has

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not quite gone through. He is in the market for a new centre-half.

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They need an experienced new centre-half to galvanise everybody.

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Those are nice clubs by the way! is a right midfielder play at the

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right back. Kevin Phillips had a decent finish. He is good for back.

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The players positioning have a lot to do with it. You can see

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Northampton missing a lot of chances. What about that one?

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were walkabout for Blackpool's second goal. He was looking at the

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goalkeeper and try to give him the If Tears ended up tackling himself.

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It is one of those where you think, I have scored here and he took his

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eye off the ball. That is exactly what he has done. To be honest,

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that should have been a goal. should have been a win that,

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absolutely. There was a vote of confidence today. What is the

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situation at Portman Road? I had a fair crack of the whip and that is

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what I am getting. It didn't workout. That is reasonable. Then

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they will have to sack me. I have drive and determination to get this

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job right. It is great when you know you have an owner who is 100%

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behind you. We both want the same thing. Ipswich fans, do you think

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Paul Jewell is still the right man? Who would love to hear from you.

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What do you think of the job that Paul Jewell is doing? It all

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depends on results. We are in India in to it and he has been in charge

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of 51 games and they have conceded 95 goals. He needs a centre-half

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and to get in so structured. Ipswich fans would rather they

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played young players. Williams played and they give it energy.

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They have a good desire where as the older players have nothing to

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54. Contractually we cannot show any Norwich action because they are

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in the Premier League. That is one of your form of the teams and they

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are going pretty well. Fantastic. I have watched them a few times this

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season. He has got it right, the manager there. He is doing really

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well. Everything he seems to do seems to pay off. The positioning

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of the players... What about Leon McKenzie? It is great to have you

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with us today. You have had difficult times. It is fabulous

:26:45.:26:51.

that you are here and are able to talk about it. Yes, it is something

:26:51.:26:57.

I went through a few years ago. I was passionate to bring it forward

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and be open and show everybody the problems that I went through two

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basic to make the situation of depression more aware. To get the

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PFA to be more supportive in respect of Dom Mark Pugh have they

:27:12.:27:20.

been helpful? Not so much back then but since my article in the Daily

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Mail and with Dean Windass speaking. It is a brave thing to do. When you

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go through those situations it is a brave thing to come forward and

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speak publicly. How public the -- how important the think it is to

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get the message out publicly? Is more widespread than people think.

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It is a massive step forward. When you speak publicly about such

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personal stuff, for me it was getting the awareness about

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depression and getting it out there so there is more support within the

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area. That is the main thing. Better times ahead for you? Your

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music career about to take off. This is what I mean. I am living

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testimony. The place that I was apt to the place I am now, if I look

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back now I would have never thought I could have brought out a single.

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I have a single coming out on Friday, it is hitting the radio

:28:17.:28:27.
:28:27.:28:28.

stations on Friday. The it will be released on iTunes on 19th March.

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