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end of the game, there's one thing about Sir Alex Ferguson - when he

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does lose a game, he went over and shook hands. That's allowed. It is

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part and parcel of the game. That was the best part of the game!

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Without any punches. What a turnaround. You wrote them off.

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turnaround. You wrote them off. Almost? When do you ever see form

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like this from Manchester United? They were eight points clear. They

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were 40-1 on to win the title and they go to Wigan and were as bad as

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you would ever believe. Who wins it now? City will win it now. A tough

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game at Newcastle? Yes, you can go there and win the league. Hey, you

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go and do it. With the players they have got, they are used to big

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games. I haven't got a clue! I have backed the two of them all season-

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long. I am sure I will get one of them right! There's been so many

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twists and turns. You wouldn't be surprised if you got another one.

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Thank you very much. There's plenty more football to

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look forward to on the BBC this week.

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Late Kick Off follows us here on BBC One with all the stories from

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your region after a dramatic weekend in the Football League.

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On Saturday, Dan Walker and David James will be looking ahead to the

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FA Cup Final between Chelsea and Liverpool on Football Focus at

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We have a title race on our hands as United have company at the top.

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 89 seconds

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crunch time for West Ham... We've delivered not the ultimate prides,

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but we've been very close. And for Wycombe. With teams like Sheffield

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Wednesday, Sheffield United and Charlton in this league. There's a

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Charlton in this league. There's a big difference. Crawley and Barnet

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will have to wait until the final day of the season. Whether we're

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staying up or going down, it didn't matter. We were going full guns

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blazing. And as we approach the anniversary of Justin Fashanu's

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death, can football do more to tackle homophobia? The best thing

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we can do is create an environment where A, home -- homosexual man

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would feel comfortable coming out. Hello, welcome to the penultimate

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Late Kick Off of the season - we're almost there! Tonight we're joined

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by a man who's played in the Premier League with Watford. He was

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even once on Dragons Den! The Brentford goalkeeper Richard Lee is

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alongside a man who is always reinventing himself, Mark Bright.

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First though Wycombe, where life is anything but dull. In 2009 they

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went up. In 2010 they went straight back down. In 2011 they went up.

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Anyone see a pattern? Richard Adams spent Saturday seeing if the boys

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from Buckinghamshire would once again be trading places. Volatile

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markets, unpredictable trends and a life lived by the virtue of what

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goes up must come back down. I'm not talking about the state of the

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stock market, but rather, the trials and tribulations of Wycombe

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It's like being a yo-yo. This is the third time we're staring

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relegation in the face in ten years. It's like a long, slow illness. You

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start getting a heavy cold around Christmas. You're trying to stave

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off pneumonia. Now we're teetering on the edge. To achieve League One

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status at the end of this season would be as good as promotion last

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year. This division is a big step from League Two. We have Sheffield

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Wednesday, Sheffield United, Charlton in this league, players on

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thousands of pounds a week. There's a big difference. The next 90

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minutes are the most crucial in the season. Defeat will mean almost

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certain relegation, but a win will see them take their fate to the

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 89 seconds

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With two minutes remaining and leading 3-2, Wycombe had possible

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survival within their grasp. But two quick goals meant they were

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It sums the season up today. The performance, we played very well

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and conceded goals, late on in the game. We've scored at this level,

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but conceded far too many. That's why we've been relegated.

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Everyone's gutted, you know, it's a real bad one because obviously we

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could have kept it alive for next week that. Would have been a heck

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of a game. Everyone's disappointed and devastated. I'm sure the fans

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are too. You want to be here next season? I see no reason why, but

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that up to other individuals. But I don't see you know, I'll be here as

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A tough day for all connected at Wycombe, and we'll talk about them

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in a moment. But their defeat was good news for Leyton Orient who

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went to Hartlepool on Saturday still in danger. They went behind

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to an Antony Sweeney goal. They did get themselves back into the game

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though. Kevin Lisbie the driving force down the middle, and he laid

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it off for Jamal Campbell-Rice for a tidy equaliser. Ryan Noble

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condemned Russell Slade's men to defeat. Wycombe's difficulties

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though kept the O's up. Sighs of relief all round. You've played in

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a Brentford side that has twice beaten Wycombe this year. Why do

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you think they've struggled so much in this season? It's a tricky one

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to say why. We played them the first time round and they were

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fantastic. Though we won, we didn't deserve to. Their manager summed it

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up, it's the goals they've conceded. They've conceded a lot. They have

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played very good stuff. On the teams that came up last year, they

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have the joint best defensive record, they only conceded 50 goals.

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They've conceded something like 86 goals this season. Scoring,

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fantastic. 65 they've scored. Stevenage who are in the promotion

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play-off place, they've scored one more. You're thinking, simple, can

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you just not concede as many and they'd have a good chance. I back

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them to bounce straight back up. What about Leyton Orient, we had

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Russell Slade here in January, and the team going for the play-offs.

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Their season has really tailed off. Nose dived, one win in ten games.

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They've benefited from teams below them not winning. It's been a poor

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season. I think October they kicked in taking 14 points in that month.

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They haven't showed any consistency. They've stayed up which is a good

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thing. West Ham fans spent the season planning for automatic

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promotion and went into the final game with an outside chance. For it

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to happen, they needed to beat Hull and hope that Southampton slipped

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up against already-relegated Coventry. Nine months of twists and

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turns, of highs and lows, it all Southampton have the breakthrough!

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News from elsewhere is not good. West Ham still have to do what they

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can and hope. The diving header makes it two.

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He's found a way through this time. West Ham have got a goal. They're

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doing their bit. Two for West Ham.

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Oh, and it's in! Southampton again. Oh, yes, it's four. Southampton are

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Hull have got a goal back, so West Ham cue the play-offs. In the end

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this was academic in what happened at St Mary's.

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We're in great form because we've only lost one in 18. Unfortunate

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factor in that is between that has cost us the second spot or even the

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title by just drawing too many on the trot at home here. But, yeah

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it's a great record to go with, only one defeat in 18. So Sam

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confident they're going into the play-offs in good form. And in the

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play-offs West Ham will be playing Cardiff, who beat your boys Palace

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on Saturday. Wilfred Zaha with a fine opener for the Eagles. But

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Peter Whittingham and Don Cowie with the goals that ensured the

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Bluebirds took the final play-off place. Brighty, how do you rate

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West Ham's chances against them? They've been in the play-offs the

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last three seasons. Sam's right, the form of the teams, the last six

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games West Ham are the form team, with the exception of Millwall. And

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going into the play-offs I would fancy their chances. I looked at

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the last 19 games and they've got the best record, better than

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Cardiff, Birmingham or Blackpool. Cardiff lost five, Birmingham lost

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four, Blackpool lost four. West Ham have only lost two. It's

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disappointing, but Reading came with a great charge. They deserve

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to go up though Southampton. They have to go again. Everyone says the

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third place team it's unlucky. They're the rules. I've finished

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there. You have to forget what's happened now, look forward and go

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again. I think, I really do think they'll get promotion from the

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play-offs. You played in play-offs with Watford in 2008, albeit as the

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team that snuck in, in sixth. What do you think West Ham's mindset

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will be going into these games? Yeah, I think he's spot on. There's

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something to it... For once! Yeah. There's something to it in that

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West Ham looking for points, ten points ahead of the next place.

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There's a mental aspect to it in that a lot of them two, three

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months ago would expect to be on their holidays now. Then Blackpool

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who have come from nowhere and done what they've done. It will be

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interesting. Blackpool with the momentum, I'm probably going

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against what you're saying here, the likes the Blackpool could come

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through and surprise a few people. The pressure will be on West Ham.

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Fans expect them to do it. Ail' be at the game. It should be good.

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could make all the difference. Tension plays a big part as well,

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handling the pressure. confirmation of the play-offs line-

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up. Commentary of both legs on BBC London 94.9 and highlights of the

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second leg at Upton Park on Late Kick Off next Monday. Birmingham or

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Blackpool await the winners at Wembley. Our other three

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Championship teams were playing for little more than pride at the

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weekend, here's Nick Godwin to tell Watford have proved so many people

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wrong this season. It was fitting they should finish off in style.

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Deany did all the hard work before setting up Ewelumo to get the

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scoring started. Middlesbrough needed a win to keep

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them in contention for a play-off place and drew level with five

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minutes to go. Watford are quite used to wrecking carefully made

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plans. A late strike from Deany sealing the points. They finish

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sealing the points. They finish 11th in the table, another strong

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Millwall have spent most of the season looking over their shoulder,

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but their strong finish to the campaign augers well. An early lead.

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Then it was 1-1. Dicko slid in to put the sea siders in front. Before

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Spurs loanee Harry Kane struck an equaliser with seven minutes to go.

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Millwall have ended the season unbeaten in seven matches.

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Brighton's best league season for 20 years ended with a whimper.

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Their first campaign back in the championship has been something to

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remember, though, but no-one will be recalling Barn's attempt to

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break the deadlock any time soon. Barnsley weren't much better in

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front of goal. A drab end to a colourful season for the Seagulls.

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Now, this Wednesday marks the anniversary of Justin Fashanu's

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death. 14 years after he committed suicide at the age of 37, he

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remains Britain's only openly gay professional footballer. So is the

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sport doing enough to tackle COMMENTATOR: Oh, what a goal!

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That's a magnificent goal. Former footballer Justin Fashanu has been

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found dead in a garage in East London. It's a terrible thing when

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you consider the only person he could talk to was me. Whoever makes

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that first step, it's a massive step because no-one's done it.

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Every time I have done an interview about anti-homophobia, without

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exception, a comment that I'll get on Twitter or on something is oh,

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why don't you just come out then. More than a decade since his death,

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the hope for those who knew him is that Justin Fashanu's legacy will

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be to inspire change in a sport, which, many believe, has failed to

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keep up with changes in society. Justin was a friend of mine. He

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just wanted someone to talk to. That's what has to be provided,

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more and more where people can go and talk to someone and have the

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support of their clubs. If you don't have the support of the clubs,

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then the battle's lost. Every professional football club has

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signed the Government's sports charter to tackle homophobia but

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only 16 agreed to actively support this year's football versus

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homophobia campaign. It's all well and good people signing a piece of

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paper and saying they want to be a part of something, but how much are

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they going to stand on the soapbox and shout about it? How much are

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they willing to do and put their club's name to initiatives and

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direct action campaigns? One club that has played a key role is

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Wycombe. The team wore anti- homphobia T-shirts before a match

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this season. But even here, it's felt football does not yet provide

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an environment where a footballer would feel confident to be openly

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gay. It must be a problem, if not there would be openly gay

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footballers. There isn't. You would think that amongst the thousands of

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professional footballers that, the stats say there would be

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professional footballers that are professional footballers that are

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gay. There's a real reluctance for heterosexual men to stand up and

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fight the cause for homosexual men for a fear of what? For the fear of

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the exact thing we're trying to break down. We are all one and the

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same. I will get as much satisfaction and delight from

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watching a Middlesex Cup Final as I would going to see Brentford play

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or whether I go and watch Chelsea. What you do have, which connects

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all the clubs together, is they carry the name of a place. It is

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the reputation and the honour of that community whose name they bear

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that is at stake in every match. Surely, it's the responsibility of

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the clubs involved to really get behind anything that divides a

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community. There's no reason why people shouldn't be able to be

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themselves and still be able to support football clubs, play

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football and participate in any way they see fit. The best thing we can

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do is create an environment where we believe a homosexual man would

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feel comfortable coming out. You played in the same era as

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Justin Fashanu, what was the response in dressing rooms and on

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the pitch when he came out? I was playing, yeah. I was at Crystal

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Palace at the time. That weekend, we played against Wimbledon. His

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brother John was playing for Wimbledon. Obviously, he was sort

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of like taubted by the crowd. At the at the end of the day of the

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game, we used to share the ground, he came into the Palace dressing

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room because he didn't want to go into the players' lounge, he sat in

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the dressing room talking to us. It really hurt him, but yeah, it was

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quite shocking news at the time because obviously, nobody had come

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out before. 14 years on, do you believe

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nowadays players would have any problem accepting a team-mate if

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they were gay? Yeah, I think time - - times have changed. I don't think

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it would be a problem. I don't remember the last time lads were

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nice to each other in the changing room. There would be some banter,

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that's the life of a footballer. I think more so the terraces. I

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suppose it would be like anything, a player gets a celebrity

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girlfriend, does something different, they are going to get

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stick regardless. That's the way it is. But then it would be similar to

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a lot of things in football, it's a great medium for things to change.

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When it does happen, I'm sure it will bring more change and positive

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steps. It's a subject we shall continue to chat about. On Saturday,

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Barnet faced the - for them - unusual prospect of staying up

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before the final day of the season. They needed to beat Wimbledon and

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hope for favours from elsewhere, including Crawley, who could have

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sealed their second straight promotion at home to Hereford.

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Chris Slegg spent the afternoon at Underhill. Who neds a Premier

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League title decider? League Two is where the drama is really at. A win

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for Barnet at Wimbledon and they could stay in the Football League

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today and those 40 miles directly south of here at the broad fields

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stadium, Crawley are stepping out against Hereford. If they win, not

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only will that do Barnet a favour, it could see Crawley promoted to

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League One. Scott Davies had Crawley's first chance against

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second to bottom Hereford, who weren't expected to put up much

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resistance. Back at Underhill, Barnet were up against a Wimbledon

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side determined not to let their solid first season in the Football

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League fizzle out. Just after the half hour mark, came the Bees

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breakthrough. COMMENTATOR: Barnet take the lead!

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In West Sussex, Crawley still In West Sussex, Crawley still

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couldn't force the opener. Then ten minutes into the second half, a

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Hereford goal out of nowhere. Crawley were now out of the top

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three. Back at Underhill the nerves were on edge. The mood has changed

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here, that goal for haifrt at Crawley, mean if Wimbledon get one,

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Barnet will be in the relegation zone on goal difference.

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Hereford were to add to Crawley's pain. Barnet were determined to

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stay in control of their own destiny. Crawley's collapse was

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soon complete - a 3-0 defeat meaning no promotion party for them

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today. Events elsewhere at least keeping them in the top three.

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Everybody expected maybe that we believed that we were going up

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today. But, we didn't perform as we should have done. Hereford's shock

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three points meant even the two late goals, which saw Barnet run

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out 4-0 winners, wouldn't settle relegation issues today. For the

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third year in a row for Barnet, it will go to the final game. You

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didn't get any favours from Crawley? We thought that would be a

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banker. They had Torquay and Crawley, we thought we'd be safe.

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can't wait to get them on the pitch next Saturday, there's enough

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characters in there, from what I can see, we can get a victory away

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from home. So what it all means is from home. So what it all means is

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this Saturday, Barnet have to win at Burton to be sure of staying up.

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At the other end, Crawley have to win at Accrington to be sure of

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going up. Good luck to both in their respective missions. No such

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last day drama for Brentford in League One. Saturday's 2-1 defeat

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to Sheffield Wednesday ending any lingering play-off hopes. You

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didn't play because of the injury, but talk us through it if you will.

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They're a good side. They are. I suppose, all top three deserve to

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go up. We're amongst that. It's a shame, though we lost, on the

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balance of play, we certainly deserved more than we got. There

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was a Big Debate about that penalty. Yes, there was a small debate. I

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have to say their keeper was fantastic. On the balance of play

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we deserved better. Again, maybe that sums up our extent, in that

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we've been very close all season, on the fringes, and we haven't

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broken in. Whatever happens this Saturday at Chesterfield, Brentford

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will finish 9th. How would you sum up the campaign? We had the boss in

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earlier, he was hoping for better things. Does ninth summarise where

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you think you deserve to be? think so. We've been close. We've

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been close all season. We had this great run of late. Last weekend was

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a big game. Had we beat Stevenage it could have been very different.

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We haven't quite been good enough. We've shown glimpses. It bodes well

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for this season. Question for Brentford fans, but Ok, here's

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Caroline Barker to tell us how what happened with our other clubs in

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were continuing the title party in the early stages at Deepdale.

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Haynes into the area before steering his shot through two sets

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of Preston legs. They were hoping to take their season tally to 100

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points and when the home side entered in the party spirit, Grey

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gifting the ball, they looked on course to do. So the hangover would

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soon kick in however. Hunt with a shot through a crowd of bodies and

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into the bottom corner before Alexander, playing his 1023 and

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final game of his career, signed ended at Northampton. Wilson fired

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the home side in front. Their destiny remained in their hands at

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halftime. They profited from slack defending in the Northampton ranks

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to draw level. It wasn't to be quite enough.

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With survival secured, there was little to suggest that the Daggers

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could extend their eight game unbeaten run away to a Shrewsbury

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side needing three points for promotion. The greater need that

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won out ahead of top scorer Collins the difference. The shrews clinched

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promotion. promotion.

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Now the questions for you Richard. Goal keepers, wasting time, time

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wasting in football, you have issues on how to solve it. Yeah,

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it's something that, I can plug my book, is that all right?, it's

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something I mentioned in my book, was similar to the American method

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of doing a stop-watch system. It wouldn't be 90 minutes, but the

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ball is in play on average 60 minutes, just clarifying it's a 60

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minute game. The clock is restarted when it come in play. We were

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taught, I remember years ago, game management is what we were calling

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it, it was in effect, when you're 1-0 ten minutes ago, using every

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possible advantage to waste time. I think by doing that it would change

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that. It would be a revolution in football. Do you like that? A tweet

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here, what chance have you got of promotion next year? I think play-

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offs will be there next year. We're fortunate and have an owner backing

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the club and putting money in. Fantastic manager, great staff and

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we have some really good players. I think one or two additions and why

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not. Lee says "What has been your highlight of the season, other than

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appearing on Late Kick Off?" course! It would have to be the run

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we've had prior to last week, going seven games, five or six clean

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sheets, won five of the seven. We did great. To get ourselves back in

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the picture, a really good feeling around the club. It's unfortunate

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it's tailed off the last week or two. It bodes well. Is the shoulder

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injury something so you can have a longer summer holiday? Yeah, yeah.

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No, I dislocated it last season, so I just felt it again a couple of

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weeks ago, which was unfortunate to miss a couple of big games. I'll be

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fine. Great to have you on today. Now, before we go, the team that

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were formerly Wimbledon and moved to Milton Keynes are MK DONS, the

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team that started from scratch with the soul of the old club are AFC

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Wimbledon. As penance for your faux paus last week, we'll force Mr

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Bright to re-live a day he'd like to forget. The rather one-sided,

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nine-goal thriller between Palace and Liverpool in 1989. Goodnight.

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My nightmare. Don't worry, you're not in this one, this is a

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nightmare result. September 12, 1989, we've gone to Anfield to play

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Liverpool. Perhaps the best football club in the world at the

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time and Glenn Hussain. That didn't matter. They may have a team of

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household names. We have Write and Bright and in goal perery sn

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sukling who was to remain immovable nine times in the next 90 minutes.

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They scored early. Then again. Play your way out of this one. Then they

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scored just for luck. 3-0 at halftime. That's all right. We'll

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score early, keep it tight, come score early, keep it tight, come

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back, 3-1, heads held high, no worries. Or the other option,

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concede again just after halftime, then again. Then give away a

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penalty and they bring on a local hero to score with his first touch.

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But then we get a penalty and I hear, what I still think is the

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most optimistic thing I've ever heard any football fan say "If we

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get this Kev, you never know." The pressure was too much for Geoff

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Thomas. He blazed it over the bar. The entertainment bar kept going,

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they scored again. Then again. The final nail in the coffin in the

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last minute 9-0, eight separate scorers. That's a record and a new

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joke, what's the time mate? It's nearly ten past suckling. But

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