Episode 4 Late Kick Off London and the South East

What do you do when there is no match? Watch football. Huddersfield

have let one in. If that stays a draw, that is ideal. A year since

Gary Megson took over. This is Final Score on BBC Two.

Huddersfield Town 1 MK Dons 1. Sheffield Wednesday 2, Yeovil Town

1. Dan, first weekend in February, top of the table, is there anything

that can stop Charlton now? I don't think so. If you look at the table,

we are looking really good. 33 plus goal difference as well. It is up

to the other teams to make up that gap. It is looking really good.

Danny Green enjoying life at Charlton. There must be so many

players over the years who have been told they are not good enough,

they go away and disappear? But he has fought his way back into the

club that let him go? It didn't happen to me! LAUGHTER You do see a

lot of players - they don't quite make it, they go into non-league

and they work their way back up. Credit to them for doing that.

you need that correct mentality to do that? If you are a precious

player... You need to believe in yourself. There were a lot of

players that came from non-league into the league. A lot of players

dropped out and came back. Danny Green got his chance at Dagenham &

Redbridge. He scored 12 goals last season. He was suspended at the

start of the season but he has got himself in the team and he has been

instrumental to their success so far. He has great delivery. They

are really pleased with him. have on the screen - since 2004,

every single year has been a drop, they dropped down - maybe this is

the year they start to climb back up again? I remember played there

when Curb was manager. You now realise what a great time that was

under Curbs. Brighty will know more than I do about the club. He came

in, Alan Pardew and then - I left in '99... Nothing to do with you!

Be careful what you ask for. We need somebody else. Chris Powell

has come back. No goals from the weekend. Footballers refer to this

sort of strike as a worldy! This is Dale Stephens. What do you think of

this one? An awesome strike. Especially at The Valley as well.

Just looking to progress. 12 clean sheets which is fantastic. Played

everybody so far - 18 clean sheets will get promotion. You only hit

one like in your career? It is not about me! Now to Wycombe, your old

club. Such a crucial win for them at the weekend. We had Gareth

Ainsworth in here and he scored at the weekend. Yeah. A crucial win.

That was Adam McGurk giving Tranmere the lead. Then two goals

for Wycombe. That set up Matty Whichelow. He is on loan from

Watford. When I look at Wycombe, scoring goals isn't a problem for

them. They have conceded 55 goals. If they can tighten up a little bit

at the back, they will pull themselves away. It's almost ten

years since you were there, Lawrie? Yes. The club haven't moved on much

since then? Are they one of those clubs that find it so hard to

impress and rise up the league? Are they in their position? When I was

there, the fans were mid-table in Division One. In the ten years I

have left, they have spent four weeks higher than when I left. A

good win on Saturday. They got themselves out of the bottom four,

which will give them some confidence. It is a decent club,

Wycombe. They have the rugby there. It is a decent stadium. It is a

good Division One club. They have struggled to maintain that. Gareth

was talking of the importance of winning. But if they had lost that,

there would have been deflation? The bonus is, you are playing, you

win, then you look at everyone below you. You can send in your

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iPlayer as well. So to Lawrie's Barnet now. Very

much on the up in the league and perhaps a Cup Final in their sights

as well. Tomorrow they visit Swindon in the second leg of the

JPT Southern Area Final. The scores 1-1 from the first leg.

It began in August in Essex. The Bees beat Colchester. Next a trip

to Gillingham. Barnet were behind but they equalised with a penalty.

Then followed another trip away to Cheltenham. Barnet were into the

Southern Area Semis. No goals, penalties it was. And to the

Southern Area Final first leg, Swindon took the lead, but Mark

Hughes nodded in a crucial equaliser to leave things all

square ahead of tomorrow's trip to the County Ground.

Swindon are doing very well, lots of tips on them because of Paolo di

Canio? They are probably the best team in our division. Whoever

finishes above them will be champions. He has done well. He has

gone to a club where they have brought in big-name managers. Denis

Wise went there before him. They have to give them players and Paolo

likes a player! He has got them to where they are. A good Cup run.

They have won the last four league games. Do you think your team has

benefited from the Cup run? Has it helped? The Cup has helped us. We

beat Portsmouth in the Carling Cup earlier in the season. The FA Cup

run we went on, too. So it has helped us. It has catapulted you

away from it? You used to be the underdog. Is it a benefit, though?

I would like to sometimes - I was working out - I have been a manager

for - I have been the underdog. would like to be the favourite?

are what we are. Every time I get on the training ground, we look up

and there are the Wembley arches. It will be great for the Barnet

fans to go there. We will take 10,000. They haven't been to

Wembley since '72. So that will be a great day out for Barnet Football

Club. A lot to play for. To do that in the team near the bottom of the

table is quite an achievement. Swindon have a dabble -- Swindon

had a dabble at trying to buy him. Have you got a pre-match chat lined

up to say, "Listen, we are 90 minutes away, I know what it is

like to be there." The players know that. I will save the chat for when

we are in the final! You need somebody to score the first goal at

the new Wembley - so have a word with Mark Bright? They have only

conceded seven goals in the league. So it is tough. They are a very

good side. We have no doubts about that. We are looking forward to it.

If we can play as we have done over the last two months, we will give

them a game. They know that. It will be no surprise if they go

through. I have been involved in a few Cup games. That match is live

on the BBC. You can hear a full live commentary on Tuesday night.

On BBC London 94.9 FM, there is live coverage of Millwall's match

at Southampton. We like to think that every penny

we spend goes to building a better team. With budgets already tightly

stretched, there are calls for clubs to pay for moch$$DUMP

matchday policing outside the stadiums.

This Saturday's London derby between Millwall and West Ham was a

potential flashpoint which had been anticipated for weeks and the Met

were ready. This group of Millwall fans were escorted down here by

police officers, the match has already kicked off. There appears

to be more police officers than fans and there is a crush trying to

get in. Officers have been drafted in from all over London and taken

away from their normal duties. The last time these two teams met here

it was a different story. There was fighting before and after the game

last night... Violence had erupted and it went on into the night and

the cost to police the game came in at over �200,000. West Ham was only

billed �18,000 while the public picked up the rest. The majority of

the cost of policing this game will come out of the police budget. It

has been a point of contention since the '60s. Many are

complaining the clubs should be contributing more. Good afternoon.

3.00 kick-off. Brentford has a long history as a family club and

experiences little or no trouble. This man is the Head of Security.

Years ago, it was the police who used to look after the stadiums. We

always speak to the police at the beginning of the season. We decide

what we are going to do as far as the policing is concerned. Clubs

pay for policing on their property. Step outside the ground, it is down

to the taxpayer to pick up the bill. Private property owned by the club

is known as the footprint and how many police operate within it is

negotiated annually at the beginning of the season. In the

last few years, Brentford have increased the number of stewards at

the ground, reducing the police presence thus reducing their bill.

Outside the club, the responsibility for policing falls

on PC Ken White. He has been working here for 20 years. If they

could get less police inside the ground, they would. They could be

on the streets doing what we do best. Do you think that is the

right thing, that the clubs should be responsible for it and the

police shouldn't be here? Without a doubt, yes. The fact is, you have

got a football ground on your borough so you have to police it

accordingly. A Freedom of Information Request from the BBC

found that the Metropolitan Police spent over �5 million policing

football matches across London in the 2010/11 season. The clubs

themselves were only charged �3 million. Football clubs say they

pay large amounts of tax and that having to pay for policing would

put smaller clubs out of business. In an ideal world, I would like to

see no burden on the public purse when it comes to policing football.

Whether or not I think it right to have full and total cost recovery

is irrelevant. That might be the police service's aspiration. But at

the moment, we are working to the latest case law. The true cost of

policing football may be higher than previously thought. The

Association of Chief Police Officers have commissioned the

first research of its kind which shows that the level of other

crimes goes up on match days. conclusion of that as a result of

the research we have done indicate there are higher than expected

numbers of crimes that are taking place on football match days that

the police are currently having to use their own budget to pay for. I

think that it is reasonable to assume that if there is evidence to

suggest that there are these increases that are taking place

outside the footprint, then the football clubs should be paying

their fair share and they should be held responsible. With the dispute

heading for the courts, the battle over who should pay when the

beautiful game turns ugly is set to intensify.

Richard Adams with an interesting piece. Saturday's game passed off

without incident. Were this to come in, it would be another huge amount

of money for the Football League clubs to have to fork out? Huge

burden, yeah. In the piece, most football fans pay taxes, you know.

The fans are taxpayers. I don't understand that. Clubs do so much

for the community. They create projects where 50,000 young people

have come through where they organise five-a-side games in the

evening. They get the kids off the street and the crime rate drops.

They do work? They do such a lot of good work in the community. Give us

an idea, Lawrie, we estimated �600,000 a season for a

Championship club. Not as much for a side in League Two. Without a

doubt. It is a big question for clubs. Are they going to tax

universities for students demonstrating? It is part and

parcel - you pay for the police and they have to do a job. Say the

Notting Hill Carnival - do the organisers have to pay the police

for that? They are paying such big money to players, so they want a

part of that pie. The Premier League clubs can afford that but

the lower league clubs can't. The weather had a severe effect in

Leagues One and Two, but all five of our Championship teams were in

action. chances against their rivals after

the Hammers' drubbing last week. Kevin Nolan getting a red for his

dangerous tackle. The league leaders have shown why they are

favourites for promotion. Carlton Cole heading them ahead. The Lions

were in the game and Liam Trotter drew the sides level with this

stunning strike. Minutes later, the Hammers scored through Winston Reid.

Brighton kept up their chase for a play-off spot by securing maximum

points in a game that saw three players sent off. Jermaine Beckford

was the first to see red. Matt Sparrow evened things up. Will

Buckley then slotted home his seventh of the season. Neil Dann

picked up his second yellow as Brighton held on for all three

points. Watford made it two wins in two

with a good performance. John Eustace showed he is still a threat

in front of goal. The skipper should have made it two in the

second half. Eustace did get his brace taking advantage of

Barnsley's slack defending. The win keeps Watford a safe distance from

the relegation zone. Dougie Freedman was left feeling

his side did enough to win. Boro haven't won since Boxing Day.

Palace failed to convert any of their chances and left the away

their chances and left the away fans with just a point. I think the

Championship is a fascinating division. I know you are

concentrating on League Two. How do you see it panning out? I think it

is up there for grabs. The one thing I would say - the Premier

League is the best European League. The Championship is the best

English league in this country. Lots of English players, full

crowds, Reading - there are a lot of good players and managers.

had Sam Allardyce on here a few weeks ago. Still doing particularly

well and still he is getting booed? What about the academies, Sam?

"Academy?" Top of the league, you can't do more than that. He has

nine strikers. Nicky Mannard? are expecting them to get promotion.

17 players went out through the door. We were both talking about

the tackles. Let's have a look at those. This is Kevin Nolan - a

those. This is Kevin Nolan - a straight red. It was so early in

the game. You can see here, both the feet are off the ground. This

is Matt Sparrow. If you did that in training, the players would be

furious. It is not about one leg, two legs or six legs. Do you tell

your players... Not allowed to go to ground. In training? Not allowed

to go to ground. You tackle by standing up. If you have to go to

ground, we can damage... And players have damaged each other by

going to ground. Someone goes to ground, that is when people get

ground, that is when people get hurt. So no going to ground. Do you

want to score early and hold on tomorrow or score a late one?

want people to say, "You are going to Wembley." I don't care how we do

it. As long as we get there. It would be fantastic for the club.

Fantastic for the players. This is a chance for a bit of glory. Yeah.

That semifinal mentality, what is it, Brighty? Just win? Dream. I

went to watch Palace in the semifinal, they didn't get through,

so if Barnet get through, I will go. Before we go, time for another

football nightmare for you. Even the late great Brian Clough had

them. It never worked out for him at Brighton and this was probably

the day he would wish he was anywhere but beside the seaside.

Good night. December 1973, my Brighton nightmare is still with me

now. It was supposed to be the dawn of a new era. Having made Derby the

champions of England, we were puzzled how he ended up with us.

This was his fifth game in charge. Surely we would be champions, too?

1-0 down after four minutes. 2-0 down after ten. But then perhaps

salvation - O'Sullivan from 25 yards. Was this the start of the

comeback? Oh no, we wouldn't! Another goal, and a header from the

chap with the huge sideburns. 5-1 at half-time. It didn't get better.

6-1. Cloughy looked calm. Looked like there could be a miracle. 7-1.