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Tonight, Kenny Jacket shows why he's a perfect fit the Wolves and Stan

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Collymore on who he thinks should be the next manager at Forest. Welcome

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to Late Kick Off. Coming up tonight Leicester edging

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closer to becoming the first team in any league to clinch promotion after

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their victory over promotion rivals Burnley. Get the blue and white

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ribbons on the trophy! It belongs to Leicester City! And the man who has

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brought a light to the end of the tunnel at Wolves. If we can write

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our own small piece of history to add to a fantastic tradition at that

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club, that would be a fantastic achievement.

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We'll be hearing from the Late Kick Off Supporters' Crew as we have our

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Question Time for fans. If you want to be in our audience, email or

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tweet us and we'll reserve you a place. With us tonight, perhaps the

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finest goalkeeping`coach this country has produced. His number 1s

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include Peter Schmeichel, Kasper Schmeichel and current England

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keeper, Joe Hart. And he's also helping mastermind the resurgent

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Rams at Derby County. Eric Steele. And Cannock's finest, the man who

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knows Midlands footie better than most, Stan Collymore. You can't miss

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them, but every week we have a mascot in the studio. So today,

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please welcome Sammy the Stag from Mansfield! Tonight we're on a stag

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do of sorts. But we start with the Midlands team whose performances

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this season are a cut above the rest in the Championship, Leicester City.

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But in League One, Wolverhampton Wanderers are sitting pretty at the

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top after two horrendous seasons. Leading the pack at Wolves is Kenny

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Jacket who invited the Late Kick Off cameras into the training ground

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ahead of his side's game at MK Dons. One minute you're in the Premier

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League, the Championshio, and the next, League One. Being a Wolves fan

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hasn't been easy. We have a couple of dark seasons here at Wolves. But

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there is a light at the end of the tunnel. And a motto you can't miss

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for a club that can make the day, the week or even the year for its

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fans. It is a one club town. You only see Wolverhampton shirts around

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and that's fantastic. The potential and the tradition of the club is a

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big one. A very recent Premier League history. Mick McCarthy took

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them into the Premier League and kept them there for three years

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which is a terrific achievement. We know it's there and that's a big

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attraction for me. The potential is there. With that comes a high

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expectation, you know that but you can't have it all ways. I'm happy to

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accept the responsibility and there is terrific potential, it is not

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something that frightens me. A fantastic club, first`class

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facilities. Down on its knees after successive relegations, I think

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coming out of the Premier League was a blow but nobody expected them to

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then fall straight through to League One. It has been a tough period for

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the supporters of the club in particular to see that happen over

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the two years. I felt I needed to change things around, the connection

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between the supporters and the players wasn't there. It was the

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first thing that we did set about trying to change. And with average

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crowds around 20,000, Kenny and his men knew exactly what they had to do

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to keep the fans happy. Get out of League One. It's been our aim from

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day one to get promoted. And I'm sure that they'll be, two thirds of

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the division, when you come back from preseason, with the play`offs,

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would say, we want to try and get promotion and get one of those three

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places. We've been no different, from day one our aim has been to get

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back into the Championship. Jacket was the fourth manager

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appointed by Wolves in three years. With a risky import from Norway and

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another from a lower division club having backfired, it was time to

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turn to a man who knew a route map for success. Jacket had begun the

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Swansea revolution and done sterling work at Millwall. He was the best

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signing at Molineux. It was a Division 1 knew well, I knew if you

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did not get your fitness and attitude right, names on the team

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sheet and a Premier League history wouldn't be enough. We needed a

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fresh group of players, that didn't carry that baggage of the double

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relegation. As for tricks of the trade, Kenny Jacket doesn't exactly

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try and blind you with science. It is hard work and doing what the fans

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want you to do, keep the ball. He calls it creating a Wolves ethos. A

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lot of people turn up at Wolves for the games both home and away and it

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is our responsibility to put on a performance that gets our supporters

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going. If we do take that responsibility and put good

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performances on, it has to be player led. Then we know that we have a

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fantastic club and a great crowd to back us. As long as we respect those

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things, identify them and make sure we work hard at those basics. Some

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of the club's top earners, dating back to the Premier League days of

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three years ago, have gone. Whilst others like Jamie O'Hara have

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learned to fall in with the Jacket style and philosophy or stay on the

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sidelines. And it's worth it. He's a boss who is clearly getting results.

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He is a man manager, he's very calm, he never loses his rag. He knows

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what he wants, experienced now, he's a good manager to play for. Wolves

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probably couldn't believe their luck that they managed to get someone of

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Kenny's experience of the lower leagues, but also the ability to

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perform in the Championship as well. You can't beat that winning feeling.

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Obviously we're in the division lower, hopefully going up this time.

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But like I say, winning is winning and we are certainly hoping to do

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that again this season and that is definitely the aim. If he told me to

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jump off this roof, I'd jump off this roof. I've got that much belief

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in him and I trust him and what he says goes. So, the darkness behind

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them, it's time for a brighter future for the Wolves. If we can

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just write our own small piece of history to add to a fantastic

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tradition that is at the club, that would be a fantastic achievement.

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Eric, great to have you on the programme tonight. You started your

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coaching career interestingly enough at Wolves, but you were with Kenny

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at Watford and Manchester City. What is it about him that's got the best

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out of what he's got at Wolves? He's a good coach, first and foremost, so

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his work on the training ground Monday to Friday, that is so vital.

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He puts aside the other duties because he knows where his

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priorities are going to be. I thought what he did was perfect, he

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moved the old brigade out, he knew he had to get youth, vitality into

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that team to regenerate what is a fantastic club. He knows how to win,

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he knows to get out of that division and no one would be more delighted

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for the Wolves fans behind me here and Kenny if they get those wins

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required. It would keep this man next to me happy. This was the

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all`important goal that won it at MK Dons in front of 9000 away fans,

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another Cannock boy. It is, delightful, we've got a rich history

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of producing players, my little town. Here's the next one in Liam

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McAlinden. I know his dad Jimmy very well, he will be very proud of him,

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to score in front of 9000 Wolves fans. He's been brought through the

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youth system which has got a good track record in history of producing

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youth players but not giving them ahead in the youth team. From the

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youth team into the first team. But Kenny Jacket will now and long may

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it continue. Let's hear from two Wolves fans, Terry, you've been

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there for 40 years almost, maybe even more. How happy are you with

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what Kenny has done? Great team spirit, got the fans behind him.

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Absolutely brilliant. We're in a good position to go up. David, three

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wins away now. Yeah, so far, so good. It will be interesting to see

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how the king of League One does next season for us. I think promotion is

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on the cards now, it will be interesting into next season, so far

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so good. Very happy. Thanks for now. So to the match of the weekend.

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Potentially the Chamionship decider at Turf Moor. He has got one

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defender to beat, has to curtail his run, he didn't get a good touch,

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Nugent takes it on, left footed into the back of the net! David Nugent

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loves a goal against Burnley, and he gets another. The Foxes are back

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into their stride in the Championship! Burnley nil, Leicester

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one. He launches it long, looks for Chris Wood, he has won this, he has

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got two defenders. There it is, Chris Wood! It's a

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beauty, they're on their feet in the dugout, they're on the feet on our

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right hand side! Get the blue and white ribbons on the trophy, it

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belongs to Leicester City. Burnley nil, Leicester two.

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Ian Stringer of Radio Leicester getting a bit excited, and why not,

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six points clear at the summit. Seven points more needed and they're

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back in the Premier League. Is the title on its way as a result of that

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one win? Virtually, you mentioned the stats above Burnley, but 15

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points above QPR. If you had asked Nigel Pearson about that at the

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start of the season, he would have said you were crazy. They have

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addressed the consistency issues. We just saw in that games a snapshot of

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the difference between Leicester and Burnley. No Ings for Burnley, Sam

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Vokes went off injured, Leicester have the luxury of being able to

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bring on Chris Wood and score a cracker. I think that they will be

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Championship winners and going to the Premier League, looking forward

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to Old Trafford, Emirates. Don't get carried away! We're still chasing

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you! As far as you're concerned, you're still within a shout with the

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top ten? No, we would be delighted to finish where we are now.

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Leicester deserve to be where they are. That league table doesn't lie

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and credit to Nigel Pearson. Stan has made a good point, they've got

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four strikers to call upon. The depth they've had, he's learned a

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lot from last year, the campaign they had. He's kept the people

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together and he has built it around a great goalkeeper and back four.

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And those two midfield players, Drinkwater and James, they don't

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miss games. Their team in terms of saying who's in there week in week

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out, they've had the same eight, nine players. That consistency over

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46 games is fantastic, they deserve to be where they are. Lack of

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injuries has been key for them. This season, only a handful of

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Premiership and Championship games have been postponed due to bad

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weather. But in parts of the Midlands, nearly 60% of clubs

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playing at grassroots level have seen their games called off because

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of buckling pitches. We've been taking a look at a game of two

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halves. The rich at the top, the poor at the bottom.

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Unbelievably, football is no longer the top participant sport in this

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country. More people nowadays prefer to run, swim or cycle. Player

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numbers are in decline and in many places, facilities are shocking.

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Junior football still has the ongoing issue of over`aggressive

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parents and many still question the way we coach our kids. Make no

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mistake, the grassroots game is in big trouble. Enjoy that game, boys?

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Good, played well. Kenny Saunders is the manager of Walton FC which has

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62 junior teams. He's launched a campaign to save grassroots

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football. Grassroots football is in massive danger of folding within the

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next five to ten years. There's massive problems out there. Right

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from funding to grassroots coaching to parents, respect campaigns,

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there's many issues out there at the moment. Although Woolton have

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addressed the issue of pushy parents on the touchline, not everyone else

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has. That's a yellow card, ref, card him, yellow card him, ref! He's an

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animal, give him a yellow card. You're an animal, he deserves a

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yellow card. Constantly shouting instruction is counter`protective.

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We do want that noise and support, that's why young people want to be

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there. A parent wouldn't shout at their child during a piano lesson,

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white key, black key, so we're trying to work out a right level of

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support for those young people. There's also an issue about the

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standard of coaching but the FA insist that's all changing. What

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we're doing now is providing the right level of coaching for the

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right coach in the right environment to make sure the coaching they

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receive is the right thing for that young player's development. Coaching

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badges, it's extreme, the money they're charging for grassroots

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volunteers. We're being priced out. We need to have better coaches, we

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need more coaches, more qualified coaches. It's a ten`year journey and

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I believe we're well on the way to delivering a world`class coaching

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system and I feel within ten years we'll be seeing the fruits of that

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labour. While the culture of the grassroots game could be changing,

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there is still one huge cloud on the horizon, funding. With council

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cutbacks and even Sport England cutting its financial support,

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amateur clubs need to know who's going to help them survive. We've

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got to get the Premier League, the football league, we've got to get

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governments, councils, everyone who is responsible for grassroots

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football and can improve grassroots football. We need them round the

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table and we need them now. The numbers playing in grassroots

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football and the funding both down. Almost epitomised by your story,

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Stan, where you started kicking a ball about is now a supermarket.

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Yeah, the three main places that I played football in Cannock, one's

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now a supermarket, and the other two, one's a school field, two

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thirds of that field, there's still a pitch on there but there's seven

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or eight or nine pitches that are now houses. I went down to speak to

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Greg Dyke, I was invited down by the Football Association to offer ideas.

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I think there should be cheaper coaching badges. A levy on the

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Premier league, football league to be able to cipher off some of the

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extraordinary wealth that goes down to grassroots, but fundamentally

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it's not good enough. It's a shambles at the moment.

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A levy on the Premier League and the Football League, to be able to

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siphon off some of the extreme wealth, so it goes down to the

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grassroots. Fundamentally, it is not good

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enough. It is a shambles. I know the Football Foundation Stan

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has hit on a few of the problems there. I am from Wallsend Boys Club,

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where the Beardsleys, the Carricks, the Shearers came from. We begged,

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stole and borrowed. It has got to be very quickly reversed and you have

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to get people like the Premier League, the FA, your major sponsors,

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instead of putting money into players, divert it to the grass

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roots. If we don't do it and reverse it... We wonder why there is no

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English players coming through. Where do they practise?

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Let us get a different point of view. Stef Knight is here, the

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general Secretary of Birmingham's Festival League. When you started I

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do not think you were a football fan, but it is a league which has

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brought through the likes of Zat Knight and Paul Devlin, but you find

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yourself very much at the sharp end, with regard to rising costs and poor

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facilities? Yes, we have. I run four teams, but

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the Festival League teams are also struggling with rising costs. 30%

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for next season, possibly 50%. We cannot get the money in. Where are

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we going to get the money to raise money to pay for the pitches? It is

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ridiculous. I know Birmingham city Council

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subsidise the pitches cost, but it is still a prohibitive cost for

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teams such as yourself. Richard, you are at Yardley Warriors. Sorry,

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Dynamos. You have had to go private. Because the council`run pitches are

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not good enough for you? Yes, that is right. The vast

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majority of my squad travel about ten miles across Birmingham to play

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at the Pavilion at Moor Lane, just because it is an independently run,

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private facility. They look after the pitches a bit better, so it is

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very rare that we get a game called off due to a waterlogged pitch or

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even a frozen pitch. There are nice changing and shower facilities there

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and these are few and far between in Sunday morning and amateur football.

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Keith, your teams play in Staffordshire. You have had to go

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off on your own and raise funds of your own back. It is more of

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pro`active approach? Yes, it is. We realised a while ago

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that we needed a home for our teams. There are 43 teams, so it would be

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difficult to find one base to cater for everyone. But we have got 13

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teams play at our own base. It cost is ?1.3 million. The Football

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Foundation funded ?920,000 of that and the balance, we have to find

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that ourselves over the course of ten years.

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That is a great effort. And thank you very much for coming in, guys.

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Back to the professional game and the McLaren machine at Derby County

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is positively purring. 3`0 they won against Charlton.

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Hendrick controls and turns. Bamford get in, gives it to Russell, he

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takes a touch. Russell, left`footed, shoots and scores! Johnny Russell

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took his time in the penalty area. We have played 18 minutes ` Derby

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one, Charlton zero. Left`footed chip to the back post.

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In goes Bamford, ball is dropping. Bamford has a chance to put it in

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and has. Shocking defending from Charlton. A gift, if ever there was

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one,. Six minutes to half time and Derby go 2`0 up.

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An outswinger for Bryson to take. A flat one to the near post. Martin!

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It's gone in! Chris Martin with the header at the near post and he

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deserves that. His first goal for a couple of weeks. With six minutes to

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play, it is game over. Derby County three, Charlton Athletic zero.

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The perfect reaction after the late Ipswich defeat in midweek? Yes, we

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knew it would be difficult, with the game is chairing the course of the

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week. There are no easy games in this league. On the back of the

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great win against our local rivals. Steve stresses every re`, it is

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about the 17 and 18 players in the squad. It puts is a great position.

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Next to a very worrying slide from Birmingham

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things are looking good off the pitch as well. I know you have

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announced losses, but there has been a lot of sheer issues of the pitch.

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What has been the secret? You have all hit the ground running. I think

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you have mentioned is one of the key factors that when Steve was

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appointed, the other people heat brought with him knew exactly what

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the club was about. Often, when a new manager is, they media do not

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know very much about the club. I watched the club many times last

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season. We had the feel for the club. We had to to work. Steve has

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been left with the coaching and everything else has been left to the

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other people. We had a great run through November of which catapulted

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us up through the leak. The work that has been done during the week,

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there is a great belief in the players and it is a collective job

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between the work of the players and the management. They come to a very

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worrying slide for Birmingham. They have got the worst home record in

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Europe. They were four down when they began a fightback.

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It is now no wins in 15 at St Andrews. It is worrying, Stan? Yes,

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there has also been demonstrations about the Carson Yeung situation and

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you can see all the empty seats. You get into the play`offs by being

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strong home and making the odd victory away from home. But it is a

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bit strange, Macheda came on and scored and you wonder why he has not

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been starting games. But it will just take one victory and that could

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change everything. Five points off the relegation zone. It is run on

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teams. We need to pick up points. We simply have to get this victory at

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home. As Stan said, why Macheda did not start. I have no idea, you would

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have to ask the manager. What did you think at the start of the

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season. I did not have a lot of expectation, I would have been

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pretty happy if we had just stayed up.

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No doubt who made all the headlines last week ` and for the wrong

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reasons. Nottingham Forest sacked their manager and then lost at home

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to Charlton, but a battling game at Portman Road produced a point

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apiece. Encouraging signs?

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Yes, my understanding is they are going to go back to Stuart Pearce. I

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am worried from the ownership perspective. There are all sorts of

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rumours flying about. There are these stories about players and

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tactics being inflicted on the management. I think they should go

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back to Stuart Pearce this time, a man imbued in Nottingham Forest.

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They need to say, the is the money to spend in the summer and move

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everything forward. But I am not a fan of or not getting involved with

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playing matters. If that is the case, it needs to stop right now.

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But they cannot bring some of them just for a handful of games. As Stan

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said, if Stuart Pearce takes the job, he will know what it is all

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about. It is a fantastic football club. There are three clubs just

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below them who are going to be scrapping for that final play`off

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place. But the one good thing is that we saw that the use players

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were given a chance? Yes, we saw a few of them getting played. That is

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the one good thing. But a massive injection of confidence is needed at

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Nottingham Forest. Something like that could see them propelling

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themselves into the play`offs. Into League One and it is looking

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very promising, all of They are just two points off the

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play`off places after their weekend win.

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Ball in from low to Sawyer, steers it back to Westcarr. Westcarr turns

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and scores himself in the corner! Westcarr's shot seemed to take the

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Shrewsbury goalkeeper by surprise and it snuck in low to his right and

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it is Walsall one, Shrewsbury zero. A gentle afternoon. Yes, I still

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think we will make the play`offs, but it is going to be a hard job

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because a few teams around us have games in hand. It B have the edge.

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But we have had a good season, because we were favourites for

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relegation. I think we need an out and out striker. Your top

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goal`scorer from last season is coming back to haunt you. We have

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got a couple, it would be great if we could get him for another season.

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Girls have a problem for shoes Shrewsbury. They have been for the

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past couple of seasons. But wilfully, we can pool off the great

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escape. I think it will come down to the last game of the season against

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Chillingham. If we could get one or two wins, look great it would take

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us. Notts County's 2`0 win at the

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weekend means they are out of the bottom four. A few weeks ago, they

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were rock`bottom. What a turn around under Shaun Derry? As I said,

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momentum is everything. Three wins on the bounce. The previous nine

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games they had not got that. Shaun Derry has given the players

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confidence to go out and express themselves. But look at the teams

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below them. Still plenty of work left to do.

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Coventry's win away, by the way, sees them clear of relegation

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worries and actually, without the ten`point ban, they would be in the

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play`off places. That Calum Wilson winner makes him the league's top

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scorer. 21 league goals. Yes, I think everybody involved at

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Coventry, it has been a traumatic season. Having to play at

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Northampton. Consolidation was what this season was all about. They will

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hope the off field structure is put into place to get them back to

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Coventry as soon as possible. Playing every game away from home,

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it has been remarkable how well they have done. All credit to the players

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and management. In League Two, Burton's point at

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York keeps them in the mix for a play`off place. And well done to

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Cheltenham for their win at Hartlepool. Jermaine McGlashan with

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the only goal of the game. Curled into the back post towards

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Jermaine McGlashan and Jermaine McGlashan has turned it in!

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Hartlepool zero. Cheltenham one. Burton still in the hunt, but top

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three out of the question? Yes, you do wonder. They did not score enough

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goals. I think if they stay in the play`offs, it will represent

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success. Gary Rowett has done a great job

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there. If he could just get someone who would guarantee him seven or

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eight goals in the final weeks of the season, they could be the team

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to watch. Our mascot this week is Sammy the

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Stag. Pleased after the weekend, Sammy? He is a man or woman of few

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words. Mansfield won courtesy of Adam

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Murray's early strike. One defeat in eight.

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And well done to Port Vale's after their draw at Stevenage.

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Mansfield are getting a bit of momentum momentum.

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They still have got a chance. We have got a couple of games in hand

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above teams in front of them. I talked Barry Fry to yesterday. Great

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day for them yesterday. Getting a trophy. I think he is still Barry

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Fry celebrating, ! So, that is it for another Late Kick

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Off. My thanks to Eric and Stan. Thanks

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also to our Supporters' Crew. Sammy the Stag, please do the

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honours. You can see how to get hold of us?

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@lkomids or on facebook.com/lkomids. That is for telling us if you would

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like to join us in the studio, too. We will be back at the same time

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next Monday. Goodnight.

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