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Money. So that is what it looks like. Is it time to cover the crazy | :00:14. | :00:24. | |
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waiters of football? Family feud at Swindon Oxford. Why these brothers | :00:32. | :00:38. | |
are sworn enemies two days a year. And not the usual 365. | :00:38. | :00:41. | |
The Port side in a worsening storm. Buckets are out as former owner | :00:41. | :00:47. | |
moves to return. There's all the goals that went in, | :00:47. | :00:52. | |
and some of those that didn't. And find out why this famous face | :00:52. | :01:02. | |
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once threatened a national strike. I think we achieved more less than | :01:02. | :01:07. | |
thing that the current benefit football. -- more or less. Hello | :01:07. | :01:10. | |
and thanks for joining us - all that plus extended highlights of | :01:10. | :01:13. | |
Crawley and Southend. And here in the studio, Graeme Murty and Leroy | :01:13. | :01:16. | |
Rosenior, with more opinions than an Irish wrestler. Today, we begin | :01:16. | :01:21. | |
with derby action! Oxford versus Swindon - it may not be up there | :01:21. | :01:24. | |
with your classic hardcore cross town clashes, but when the Us and | :01:24. | :01:27. | |
the Robins get it on, it can be just as intense. Particularly for | :01:27. | :01:30. | |
one family in Oxford, where one brother supports oxford, and the | :01:30. | :01:33. | |
other is a Swindon fan. With a relative disaster in store for | :01:33. | :01:36. | |
someone, here's how their derby day and plenty of other fans, panned | :01:36. | :01:45. | |
out. Tony Husband reports. While the fans from both sides of were | :01:45. | :01:50. | |
being cajoled into their sections, the stadium car-park was just about | :01:50. | :01:56. | |
neutrals ground for these brothers. Mike works in Swindon but the | :01:56. | :01:59. | |
family moved to Oxford where younger brother Adrian learned to | :01:59. | :02:06. | |
love football and Oxford. Living and working amongst Oxford fans, I | :02:06. | :02:16. | |
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would get stick. One familiar face it centres on one centre-half. The | :02:20. | :02:22. | |
controversy would centre around a centre-forward, famous at both | :02:22. | :02:32. | |
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clubs. It is a red card! It will be homes with the cake... And they | :02:34. | :02:43. | |
have scored! -- the kick. exciting. Just bubbling with | :02:43. | :02:53. | |
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excitement. He has gone in with his That are there it! Unbelievable! | :03:10. | :03:12. | |
is the result we have waited for is the result we have waited for | :03:12. | :03:22. | |
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for years. Brilliant, you can't say much more. At the end of the day, I | :03:23. | :03:32. | |
didn't see my players in the second half. It just wasn't there. | :03:32. | :03:37. | |
going home to brag to the son-in- law now. He is an ardent Swindon | :03:37. | :03:44. | |
supporter. Emotions ran deep in this one. Oxford's first league | :03:44. | :03:54. | |
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double over Swindon since 1973. was a fantastic result. We saw him | :03:55. | :04:04. | |
making two goals. It is good see young players have getting the | :04:04. | :04:10. | |
right of experience. Still to come. More on League Two later including | :04:10. | :04:20. | |
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highlights from tonight's show down. It's another big night in the | :04:21. | :04:24. | |
promotion race. 5 of our teams in the hunt, and Crawley's match with | :04:24. | :04:28. | |
Southend will have a bearing on all their fortunes. Plus Jimmy Hill - | :04:28. | :04:31. | |
Union boss in a bygone age. But what did he say to this fit and | :04:31. | :04:40. | |
proper chap? The alternative is a player's strike. Now, more action! | :04:40. | :04:47. | |
And into the championship we go, starting with Southampton at Leeds. | :04:47. | :04:52. | |
As a former strikers, I love to watch players like this one. This | :04:53. | :05:00. | |
is his 23rd goal of a campaign. The star man the Saints was the | :05:00. | :05:10. | |
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goalkeeper. He stands up -- beak. - - big. I think he has got five | :05:23. | :05:29. | |
years left in the tank. I've got a really good feeling about Brighton | :05:29. | :05:39. | |
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making the player. They are put in front at Doncaster, but Brighton | :05:42. | :05:52. | |
are still going strong. One point for Bristol City in their last | :05:52. | :05:57. | |
seven matches is awful. In October, they were bottom of the | :05:57. | :06:01. | |
championship. They would be in the bottom three were it not for | :06:01. | :06:09. | |
Portsmouth's points deduction. Fingers crossed, they should be OK. | :06:09. | :06:19. | |
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Six wins in a row for Reading. Millwall took the lead, prior -- by | :06:21. | :06:31. | |
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modem of reckons this is the best Reading had won a couple of weeks | :06:34. | :06:44. | |
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Reading had won a couple of weeks That is how the table looks. | :06:48. | :06:53. | |
Brighton hovering on the edge of the play-off spot. At the bottom, | :06:53. | :06:56. | |
but to -- Bristol City just outside but to -- Bristol City just outside | :06:56. | :07:01. | |
the bottom three. Portsmouth in the bottom three. Portsmouth in | :07:01. | :07:11. | |
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trouble were. Lovely to see the reaction from his team-mates. | :07:13. | :07:20. | |
don't see goalkeepers reacting like that, not during the game. It is | :07:20. | :07:30. | |
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always the forwards who need a cuddle when they score a goal! | :07:31. | :07:41. | |
other odd side is Reading. They are fast learners. Millwall pushed it | :07:41. | :07:47. | |
really well. This happened to Reading not long ago, playing | :07:48. | :07:55. | |
against Hull. He was offside, he realised he would have to let the | :07:55. | :08:01. | |
guy who was not offside through. Reading learned, played to the | :08:01. | :08:11. | |
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whistle. I have not happy. I hated. It teaches bad habits. Reading are | :08:18. | :08:21. | |
going to be taking on Portsmouth tomorrow in the championship after | :08:21. | :08:26. | |
what has been a difficult week for Pompey. Let's look at the latest | :08:27. | :08:36. | |
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developments. Balram Chanrai could again become owner. The club's | :08:39. | :08:41. | |
largest debtor may re-take the reins. Portsmouth and Glasgow | :08:41. | :08:44. | |
Rangers are discussing a fund- raising match between the two cash | :08:44. | :08:47. | |
strapped clubs. This follows a week in which captain Liam Lawrence was | :08:47. | :08:51. | |
loaned out, to ease the strain of the wage bill. And Middlesbrough | :08:51. | :08:54. | |
took all the points at Fratton Park, where the bucket collectors were | :08:54. | :09:02. | |
out in force. What reaction having had today? It is a little bit next. | :09:02. | :09:07. | |
Some supporters are giving us money and some are saying, it is too late. | :09:07. | :09:17. | |
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Do you think the club will cease to exist in the next few weeks? Ears | :09:28. | :09:36. | |
sounds very much like it. It is impossible to understand. -- it | :09:36. | :09:46. | |
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They deserve a football team. Him very well find solutions to make | :09:47. | :09:57. | |
that happen. -- hopefully, they will find solutions. Can you | :09:57. | :10:07. | |
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Brave stuff there, collecting coins. It makes you a bit mad when you see | :10:10. | :10:16. | |
the tiny sums that musket collected and the amount of money that has | :10:16. | :10:26. | |
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been taken away from the club. There are many players... A top | :10:30. | :10:36. | |
Premier League side. It has been down to the owner and the owner has | :10:36. | :10:41. | |
not been able to afford it. That is why there in the problems that | :10:41. | :10:51. | |
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therein. -- why they are in the problems that they are in. If you | :10:53. | :10:56. | |
have any thoughts on Chanrai's possible return, or any of | :10:56. | :10:58. | |
tonight's topics, let us know on Twitter. The situation for many | :10:58. | :11:02. | |
clubs is getting desperate, and one of the prime reasons for that, is | :11:02. | :11:05. | |
players wages. 50 years ago, though, the problem was quite the opposite. | :11:05. | :11:08. | |
Back then a strict wage cap meant no footballer was allowed to earn | :11:08. | :11:11. | |
more than �20 a week. Until, in 1961, one player, Jimmy Hill, | :11:11. | :11:14. | |
changed all that. As boss of the players union, he led his fellow | :11:14. | :11:16. | |
professionals in a threatened strike action, that finally | :11:16. | :11:19. | |
overthrew the clubs, a cosy cartel. For many years Jimmy's been a | :11:19. | :11:22. | |
Sussex resident, and half a century on from his triumph, he looked back | :11:22. | :11:32. | |
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with Andy Steggall. You spoke of giving the club's one more chance. | :11:34. | :11:39. | |
Is the one more chance a price -- a player's strike? If the thing isn't | :11:39. | :11:49. | |
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resolved, they will withdraw their It is a time when Castro has | :11:50. | :11:55. | |
revolutionary ferment. Berlin is torn apart as the Soviet Union | :11:55. | :12:02. | |
built the war. And England's footballers are preaching rebellion | :12:02. | :12:08. | |
thanks to the chairman of the P FA. Back then he played hard and | :12:08. | :12:16. | |
canvassed even harder in search of a fair deal. Being naturally �20 a | :12:16. | :12:22. | |
week was not enough for what we were doing. When you think how many | :12:22. | :12:26. | |
people were watching. The player who benefited most was Johnny | :12:26. | :12:36. | |
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Haynes. I must have made quite an argument. To have done that! It is | :12:45. | :12:51. | |
strange. We were �20 a week before and �100 a week is a little | :12:51. | :13:00. | |
different, isn't it? You hoped Mr Pompey would be on your side and | :13:00. | :13:05. | |
you would end up with a win. Crawford played under the Financial | :13:05. | :13:12. | |
yoke of the maximum wage. If you're Jimmy Dickinson that he played 50 | :13:12. | :13:19. | |
games for England for Stanley Matthews or Tom Finney, �20. �4 for | :13:19. | :13:27. | |
a win or �2 for a draw. In the summer? Down to �12. Ray and many | :13:27. | :13:32. | |
fans still walk to Fratton Park under a reminder of a different era. | :13:32. | :13:38. | |
Five and six for a good few, that is 27.5 pence. Like great many | :13:38. | :13:42. | |
players came to football straight from national service. Rate left | :13:42. | :13:47. | |
the Malayan jungle to walk under Fratton Park turf where training | :13:47. | :13:52. | |
never included a football. Thousands of times I must have won | :13:52. | :13:56. | |
round this pitch. Did they let you play with a football during the | :13:56. | :14:02. | |
week? No, definitely not. He had won on the end of a string for the | :14:02. | :14:05. | |
heading of the ball but not on the pitch. Many thousands were drawn to | :14:06. | :14:11. | |
the game. The gate receipts going to the clubs not the stars. The | :14:11. | :14:15. | |
club players debated the situation in halls and pubs across the land. | :14:15. | :14:20. | |
The decision was overwhelming - to threaten strike action for a decent | :14:20. | :14:25. | |
wage. The mood was high, we were going to strike all over the | :14:25. | :14:30. | |
country. We were four days away from striking. It was a great fight | :14:30. | :14:36. | |
for us to say we wanted to get rid of the maximum wage and you pay as | :14:36. | :14:43. | |
as much as you can afford. Which is what happened. An agreement has | :14:43. | :14:48. | |
been reached. It has been reached in a spirit of good will from both | :14:48. | :14:53. | |
sides. I think that as far as those who play football and those who run | :14:53. | :14:57. | |
the league, this is good news. Also good news for the British public | :14:57. | :15:02. | |
and for sport in general. What the for about the outcome of this | :15:02. | :15:08. | |
meeting? I feel very happy at this moment and every fan is feeling | :15:08. | :15:13. | |
happy with me. Do you feel you have achieved all you have been fighting | :15:13. | :15:18. | |
for? Not all, I do not think we would have settled it if we | :15:18. | :15:25. | |
achieved everything. But I think we have achieved more or less the | :15:25. | :15:29. | |
things that will benefit football which is the important thing. | :15:29. | :15:32. | |
do you think about the money professional footballers are making | :15:32. | :15:42. | |
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now? Well, they are lucky. We owe Jimmy Hill a fair deal of gratitude. | :15:44. | :15:48. | |
One thing that struck me was training with no forkfuls during | :15:48. | :15:53. | |
the week. What was the reason? thought they would be more hungry | :15:53. | :16:01. | |
for the football on the weekend. All the level would be a but a | :16:01. | :16:07. | |
desperate for the ball. Amazing. Everybody owes him a debt of | :16:07. | :16:11. | |
gratitude but he revolutionised prospects for a footballer. Jimmy | :16:11. | :16:17. | |
is an extraordinary man, a forward- thinking man. He had all the | :16:17. | :16:21. | |
players doing in media training and he was the first man to think of a | :16:21. | :16:28. | |
lot of things. We will revisit the whole wage cap business later on in | :16:28. | :16:35. | |
our debate but right now on to some lead One action starting with yodel | :16:35. | :16:41. | |
playing the B team. -- yodel. Huge win for Yeovil kept | :16:41. | :16:51. | |
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up their results. Andy will be done This one was a totally different | :16:57. | :17:03. | |
type of goal. When strikers keep going you feel something will fall | :17:03. | :17:11. | |
for them and it did here. Eight goals in his last eight appearances. | :17:11. | :17:17. | |
My old team-mate is back at Exeter. He is unlucky to see it not in the | :17:17. | :17:27. | |
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net. It was saved for Richard Logan. A composed finished. The luck | :17:28. | :17:32. | |
changed in the second half. Stevenage having it all with this | :17:32. | :17:36. | |
equaliser off both posts and into the net. Exeter need to win those | :17:36. | :17:41. | |
games. Wycombe have the worst defensive record in the Football | :17:41. | :17:45. | |
League and this is why. The defending was awful. No pressure on | :17:45. | :17:50. | |
the ball, people are marked in the box and their reaction, no sense of | :17:50. | :17:56. | |
danger. The most important thing is to sense danger. They did not hear. | :17:56. | :18:04. | |
Two goals down against a 10 man Scunthorpe, disappointing. Scum | :18:04. | :18:09. | |
from first to the ball. Nine defeats in the 12 games. -- | :18:09. | :18:19. | |
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Lee Bradbury is getting sick of seeing his team unlucky. But they | :18:19. | :18:24. | |
did deserve a lot more than conceding in stoppage time. Four | :18:24. | :18:31. | |
defeats in a row for Bournemouth. I'm not sure what Mrs de name will | :18:31. | :18:35. | |
have to say about this. Bournemouth's dropping to 12th | :18:35. | :18:40. | |
place. Eight point of the play-offs. Further down Yeovil are three clear | :18:40. | :18:44. | |
of the drop, Exeter just the one and Wycombe now five points from | :18:44. | :18:50. | |
safety. We have all heard some pretty good Andy Williams records | :18:50. | :18:53. | |
by a few better than eight goals in the last nine matches. What has | :18:53. | :18:58. | |
happened? Since Gary Johnson has come in. This first goal is | :18:59. | :19:04. | |
wonderful. He used the defender as a guide to whip it round. The | :19:04. | :19:09. | |
cadres of that, the technique he used there is top notch. He is, | :19:09. | :19:15. | |
real quality. Gary has the habit of getting the best out of players and | :19:15. | :19:20. | |
Andy is at the top. Sensing danger you said you had to ask Graham | :19:20. | :19:25. | |
about sensing danger. You have to see what is on and the problem is | :19:25. | :19:29. | |
when you are struggling, low in confidence, you go into a shell and | :19:29. | :19:35. | |
worry about your own game and not help anyone else in the team. | :19:35. | :19:40. | |
Wycombe are in need of a lot of teamwork. | :19:40. | :19:42. | |
Last week's extra time asked, should we split the lower leagues | :19:42. | :19:46. | |
into North and South. And Murts won hands down with an emphatic NOT | :19:46. | :19:52. | |
EVER. Here's some of the reactions. Sam Ward, on Facebook. "I'm an | :19:52. | :19:55. | |
Exeter fan and love the long journeys as well, following your | :19:55. | :19:58. | |
team through thick and thin." Evans Tweeted, "Please don't | :19:58. | :20:01. | |
REGIONALISE matches - The Football League Trophy does that job." | :20:01. | :20:04. | |
Nathan Bees Tweeted, "You have your best memories as players on away | :20:04. | :20:10. | |
trips, it's the same for the fans! The longer the trip the better!" | :20:10. | :20:13. | |
This week, in the light of the financial problems around, and | :20:13. | :20:16. | |
inspired by that talk of Jimmy Hill's battle before, we ask is it | :20:16. | :20:21. | |
time to turn the clocks back and RE-IMPOSE a wage cap. 60 seconds on | :20:21. | :20:31. | |
the clock. Leroy to back a wage cap. Go. There should be. In terms of | :20:31. | :20:37. | |
the income they get, 6% of their income so the clubs do not go into | :20:37. | :20:39. | |
administration and players know there is a maximum wage at the club | :20:40. | :20:44. | |
and they will be happy with that. Do not punish the players for | :20:44. | :20:49. | |
chronic mismanagement. You will see a scenario where the bigger clubs | :20:49. | :20:53. | |
get bigger and pay whatever it takes with him that to get a lead | :20:53. | :20:57. | |
core of the best players in the world and then they will stop it | :20:57. | :21:00. | |
with young kids that will cost them nothing in the grand scheme of | :21:00. | :21:07. | |
things. The better clubs with the better people in charge of find a | :21:07. | :21:12. | |
way to do it and the gap will get bigger. The money people have to | :21:12. | :21:17. | |
make sure they do not do that. The supporters will be punished because | :21:17. | :21:21. | |
they have we have read the ones without a club. The players will be | :21:21. | :21:24. | |
happy with a maximum wage and be paid week-in and week-out and | :21:24. | :21:34. | |
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football has to be sustainable. still think you are wrong. Your 3-0 | :21:35. | :21:45. | |
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score so far, you might see the way That is not maximum wage, that is | :21:49. | :21:52. | |
maximum percentage of turnover. A different argument. | :21:52. | :21:56. | |
League Two action now, and it's a busy week for Crawley - in action | :21:56. | :21:58. | |
tonight against promotion rivals Southend, and we'll see that | :21:58. | :22:01. | |
shortly, but they were also in action on Saturday, hoping to let | :22:01. | :22:11. | |
their football do the Torquay. Torquay keeper Robert Bellis Nick | :22:11. | :22:21. | |
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made this saved after just 10 Bournemouth with two up at | :22:34. | :22:39. | |
Cheltenham. Cheltenham showed good attitude. They get back into it did | :22:39. | :22:44. | |
this penalty given for handball. Look at the urgency after he takes | :22:44. | :22:50. | |
the penalty. They know there is a chance because Swindon lost. Duffy | :22:50. | :22:56. | |
gets the equaliser as well. Good attitude as I said but they missed | :22:56. | :23:06. | |
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a big chance there. Just watch this header from Aldershot's player. A | :23:07. | :23:17. | |
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new club record for them, six wins on the trot. Aldershot ended on a | :23:19. | :23:27. | |
low with a red card. A solid Rovers came up against an inform keeper in | :23:27. | :23:33. | |
Macclesfield, Richard O'Donnell. Good appointment of Mark McGhee. | :23:33. | :23:39. | |
Are you happy? You should be. Plymouth's unbeaten run came to an | :23:39. | :23:42. | |
end with a great strike from Gillingham's a Joan Martin who was | :23:42. | :23:50. | |
later sent off. It is a difficult one in four of them I hope they can | :23:50. | :23:58. | |
be out of the bottom two by the end be out of the bottom two by the end | :23:58. | :23:59. | |
be out of the bottom two by the end of the season. He is what the | :23:59. | :24:09. | |
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bottom looks like. Here they are Things looking difficult for | :24:12. | :24:17. | |
Plymouth and their manager not experienced at this kind of thing. | :24:17. | :24:22. | |
We were talking earlier and you think he needs to take a backward | :24:22. | :24:27. | |
step. Yes he is a young man and when you're in it, you need to come | :24:27. | :24:32. | |
out of it to see the wood from the trees. Sometimes when you have lots | :24:32. | :24:37. | |
of games you are not doing a lot of training, so have a couple of days | :24:37. | :24:43. | |
off because it is intense and come back with new batteries. It needs | :24:43. | :24:45. | |
something So, Crawley, 1 win in 8 for Steve | :24:45. | :24:48. | |
Evans' men, dropping from promotion favourites to the fringe of the | :24:48. | :24:50. | |
playoff places. Would it be, Crawley from the wreckage tonight, | :24:50. | :24:57. | |
against Southend? Let's find out with John Roder. | :24:57. | :25:01. | |
Difficult conditions on the Essex Difficult conditions on the Essex | :25:02. | :25:03. | |
coast for both these sides. A strong wind behind them in the | :25:03. | :25:12. | |
first half. Davies with the free kick. Picked up by Neil Harris. | :25:12. | :25:22. | |
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Davies is there. Teasing shot. Good save. First good opportunity for | :25:23. | :25:28. | |
Crawley. Who now have some defending to do. It is Harris at | :25:28. | :25:38. | |
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the other end. Drags his shot wide. Simpson is on that far side. It is | :25:42. | :25:50. | |
Josh Sims and. Clarke! That has to be handball, it is a penalty! Chris | :25:50. | :25:55. | |
Barker and he knows what is coming. The Southend captain, it is a red | :25:55. | :26:03. | |
card. Southend down to 10. Barca in the goal. Clearly uses his arm to | :26:03. | :26:12. | |
block the shot. Can and Billy Clarke get his first goal for | :26:12. | :26:20. | |
Crawley? Up against Cameron Belford. Belford saves it. And gathers the | :26:20. | :26:29. | |
rebound. An opportunity that Crawley and Billy Clarke simply | :26:30. | :26:39. | |
could not take. Good hype from the goalkeeper to make the block. -- | :26:39. | :26:49. | |
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good height. Cummings. Dickinson with the challenge. Dickinson is | :26:55. | :27:04. | |
signalling to the bench. He is in a lot of trouble here. Problem now | :27:04. | :27:09. | |
for Southend. They will have to play the final 10 minutes and added | :27:09. | :27:12. | |
time with only nine men having used all three of their substitutes. | :27:12. | :27:21. | |
Cummings. Toros couldn't get there. Clarke! Just get the feeling it is | :27:21. | :27:26. | |
not going to be Crawley's a night. not going to be Crawley's a night. | :27:26. | :27:28. | |
not going to be Crawley's a night. And so there is the top of League | :27:29. | :27:32. | |
two. Southend moving a point closer to Cheltenham and Swindon and | :27:32. | :27:37. | |
Crawley still between Torquay and Oxford. Aldershot making their way | :27:37. | :27:43. | |
to the top half of the table. Less impressive from Crawley. Just one | :27:43. | :27:49. | |
point against a nine man Southend. A big chance with the penalty. And | :27:50. | :27:55. | |
you have to take these chances. We see deliberate movement of the | :27:55. | :28:01. | |
armed at least he did not catch it. What do you make of the penalty? | :28:02. | :28:07. | |
was his shot stopped on the line. Cameron Belford has come up with a | :28:07. | :28:10. | |
good save but it is not a good height. You have to hit the roof of | :28:10. | :28:18. | |
the net. Just one win in nine for Crawley. Since they lost a striker | :28:18. | :28:22. | |
and you cannot score goals and if you can't score goals you can't get | :28:22. | :28:27. |