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Money. So that is what it looks like. Is it time to cover the crazy

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waiters of football? Family feud at Swindon Oxford. Why these brothers

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are sworn enemies two days a year. And not the usual 365.

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The Port side in a worsening storm. Buckets are out as former owner

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moves to return. There's all the goals that went in,

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and some of those that didn't. And find out why this famous face

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once threatened a national strike. I think we achieved more less than

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thing that the current benefit football. -- more or less. Hello

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and thanks for joining us - all that plus extended highlights of

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Crawley and Southend. And here in the studio, Graeme Murty and Leroy

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Rosenior, with more opinions than an Irish wrestler. Today, we begin

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with derby action! Oxford versus Swindon - it may not be up there

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with your classic hardcore cross town clashes, but when the Us and

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the Robins get it on, it can be just as intense. Particularly for

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one family in Oxford, where one brother supports oxford, and the

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other is a Swindon fan. With a relative disaster in store for

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someone, here's how their derby day and plenty of other fans, panned

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out. Tony Husband reports. While the fans from both sides of were

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being cajoled into their sections, the stadium car-park was just about

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neutrals ground for these brothers. Mike works in Swindon but the

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family moved to Oxford where younger brother Adrian learned to

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love football and Oxford. Living and working amongst Oxford fans, I

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would get stick. One familiar face it centres on one centre-half. The

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controversy would centre around a centre-forward, famous at both

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clubs. It is a red card! It will be homes with the cake... And they

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have scored! -- the kick. exciting. Just bubbling with

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excitement. He has gone in with his That are there it! Unbelievable!

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is the result we have waited for is the result we have waited for

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for years. Brilliant, you can't say much more. At the end of the day, I

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didn't see my players in the second half. It just wasn't there.

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going home to brag to the son-in- law now. He is an ardent Swindon

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supporter. Emotions ran deep in this one. Oxford's first league

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double over Swindon since 1973. was a fantastic result. We saw him

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making two goals. It is good see young players have getting the

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right of experience. Still to come. More on League Two later including

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highlights from tonight's show down. It's another big night in the

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promotion race. 5 of our teams in the hunt, and Crawley's match with

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Southend will have a bearing on all their fortunes. Plus Jimmy Hill -

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Union boss in a bygone age. But what did he say to this fit and

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proper chap? The alternative is a player's strike. Now, more action!

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And into the championship we go, starting with Southampton at Leeds.

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As a former strikers, I love to watch players like this one. This

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is his 23rd goal of a campaign. The star man the Saints was the

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goalkeeper. He stands up -- beak. - - big. I think he has got five

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years left in the tank. I've got a really good feeling about Brighton

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making the player. They are put in front at Doncaster, but Brighton

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are still going strong. One point for Bristol City in their last

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seven matches is awful. In October, they were bottom of the

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championship. They would be in the bottom three were it not for

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Portsmouth's points deduction. Fingers crossed, they should be OK.

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Six wins in a row for Reading. Millwall took the lead, prior -- by

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modem of reckons this is the best Reading had won a couple of weeks

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Reading had won a couple of weeks That is how the table looks.

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Brighton hovering on the edge of the play-off spot. At the bottom,

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but to -- Bristol City just outside but to -- Bristol City just outside

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the bottom three. Portsmouth in the bottom three. Portsmouth in

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trouble were. Lovely to see the reaction from his team-mates.

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don't see goalkeepers reacting like that, not during the game. It is

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always the forwards who need a cuddle when they score a goal!

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other odd side is Reading. They are fast learners. Millwall pushed it

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really well. This happened to Reading not long ago, playing

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against Hull. He was offside, he realised he would have to let the

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guy who was not offside through. Reading learned, played to the

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whistle. I have not happy. I hated. It teaches bad habits. Reading are

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going to be taking on Portsmouth tomorrow in the championship after

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what has been a difficult week for Pompey. Let's look at the latest

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developments. Balram Chanrai could again become owner. The club's

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largest debtor may re-take the reins. Portsmouth and Glasgow

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Rangers are discussing a fund- raising match between the two cash

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strapped clubs. This follows a week in which captain Liam Lawrence was

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loaned out, to ease the strain of the wage bill. And Middlesbrough

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took all the points at Fratton Park, where the bucket collectors were

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out in force. What reaction having had today? It is a little bit next.

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Some supporters are giving us money and some are saying, it is too late.

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Do you think the club will cease to exist in the next few weeks? Ears

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sounds very much like it. It is impossible to understand. -- it

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They deserve a football team. Him very well find solutions to make

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that happen. -- hopefully, they will find solutions. Can you

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Brave stuff there, collecting coins. It makes you a bit mad when you see

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the tiny sums that musket collected and the amount of money that has

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been taken away from the club. There are many players... A top

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Premier League side. It has been down to the owner and the owner has

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not been able to afford it. That is why there in the problems that

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therein. -- why they are in the problems that they are in. If you

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have any thoughts on Chanrai's possible return, or any of

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tonight's topics, let us know on Twitter. The situation for many

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clubs is getting desperate, and one of the prime reasons for that, is

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players wages. 50 years ago, though, the problem was quite the opposite.

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Back then a strict wage cap meant no footballer was allowed to earn

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more than �20 a week. Until, in 1961, one player, Jimmy Hill,

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changed all that. As boss of the players union, he led his fellow

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professionals in a threatened strike action, that finally

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overthrew the clubs, a cosy cartel. For many years Jimmy's been a

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Sussex resident, and half a century on from his triumph, he looked back

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with Andy Steggall. You spoke of giving the club's one more chance.

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Is the one more chance a price -- a player's strike? If the thing isn't

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resolved, they will withdraw their It is a time when Castro has

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revolutionary ferment. Berlin is torn apart as the Soviet Union

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built the war. And England's footballers are preaching rebellion

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thanks to the chairman of the P FA. Back then he played hard and

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canvassed even harder in search of a fair deal. Being naturally �20 a

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week was not enough for what we were doing. When you think how many

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people were watching. The player who benefited most was Johnny

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Haynes. I must have made quite an argument. To have done that! It is

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strange. We were �20 a week before and �100 a week is a little

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different, isn't it? You hoped Mr Pompey would be on your side and

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you would end up with a win. Crawford played under the Financial

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yoke of the maximum wage. If you're Jimmy Dickinson that he played 50

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games for England for Stanley Matthews or Tom Finney, �20. �4 for

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a win or �2 for a draw. In the summer? Down to �12. Ray and many

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fans still walk to Fratton Park under a reminder of a different era.

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Five and six for a good few, that is 27.5 pence. Like great many

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players came to football straight from national service. Rate left

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the Malayan jungle to walk under Fratton Park turf where training

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never included a football. Thousands of times I must have won

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round this pitch. Did they let you play with a football during the

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week? No, definitely not. He had won on the end of a string for the

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heading of the ball but not on the pitch. Many thousands were drawn to

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the game. The gate receipts going to the clubs not the stars. The

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club players debated the situation in halls and pubs across the land.

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The decision was overwhelming - to threaten strike action for a decent

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wage. The mood was high, we were going to strike all over the

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country. We were four days away from striking. It was a great fight

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for us to say we wanted to get rid of the maximum wage and you pay as

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as much as you can afford. Which is what happened. An agreement has

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been reached. It has been reached in a spirit of good will from both

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sides. I think that as far as those who play football and those who run

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the league, this is good news. Also good news for the British public

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and for sport in general. What the for about the outcome of this

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meeting? I feel very happy at this moment and every fan is feeling

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happy with me. Do you feel you have achieved all you have been fighting

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for? Not all, I do not think we would have settled it if we

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achieved everything. But I think we have achieved more or less the

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things that will benefit football which is the important thing.

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do you think about the money professional footballers are making

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now? Well, they are lucky. We owe Jimmy Hill a fair deal of gratitude.

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One thing that struck me was training with no forkfuls during

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the week. What was the reason? thought they would be more hungry

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for the football on the weekend. All the level would be a but a

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desperate for the ball. Amazing. Everybody owes him a debt of

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gratitude but he revolutionised prospects for a footballer. Jimmy

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is an extraordinary man, a forward- thinking man. He had all the

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players doing in media training and he was the first man to think of a

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lot of things. We will revisit the whole wage cap business later on in

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our debate but right now on to some lead One action starting with yodel

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playing the B team. -- yodel. Huge win for Yeovil kept

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up their results. Andy will be done This one was a totally different

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type of goal. When strikers keep going you feel something will fall

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for them and it did here. Eight goals in his last eight appearances.

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My old team-mate is back at Exeter. He is unlucky to see it not in the

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net. It was saved for Richard Logan. A composed finished. The luck

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changed in the second half. Stevenage having it all with this

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equaliser off both posts and into the net. Exeter need to win those

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games. Wycombe have the worst defensive record in the Football

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League and this is why. The defending was awful. No pressure on

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the ball, people are marked in the box and their reaction, no sense of

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danger. The most important thing is to sense danger. They did not hear.

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Two goals down against a 10 man Scunthorpe, disappointing. Scum

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from first to the ball. Nine defeats in the 12 games. --

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Lee Bradbury is getting sick of seeing his team unlucky. But they

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did deserve a lot more than conceding in stoppage time. Four

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defeats in a row for Bournemouth. I'm not sure what Mrs de name will

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have to say about this. Bournemouth's dropping to 12th

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place. Eight point of the play-offs. Further down Yeovil are three clear

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of the drop, Exeter just the one and Wycombe now five points from

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safety. We have all heard some pretty good Andy Williams records

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by a few better than eight goals in the last nine matches. What has

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happened? Since Gary Johnson has come in. This first goal is

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wonderful. He used the defender as a guide to whip it round. The

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cadres of that, the technique he used there is top notch. He is,

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real quality. Gary has the habit of getting the best out of players and

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Andy is at the top. Sensing danger you said you had to ask Graham

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about sensing danger. You have to see what is on and the problem is

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when you are struggling, low in confidence, you go into a shell and

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worry about your own game and not help anyone else in the team.

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Wycombe are in need of a lot of teamwork.

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Last week's extra time asked, should we split the lower leagues

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into North and South. And Murts won hands down with an emphatic NOT

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EVER. Here's some of the reactions. Sam Ward, on Facebook. "I'm an

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Exeter fan and love the long journeys as well, following your

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team through thick and thin." Evans Tweeted, "Please don't

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REGIONALISE matches - The Football League Trophy does that job."

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Nathan Bees Tweeted, "You have your best memories as players on away

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trips, it's the same for the fans! The longer the trip the better!"

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This week, in the light of the financial problems around, and

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inspired by that talk of Jimmy Hill's battle before, we ask is it

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time to turn the clocks back and RE-IMPOSE a wage cap. 60 seconds on

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the clock. Leroy to back a wage cap. Go. There should be. In terms of

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the income they get, 6% of their income so the clubs do not go into

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administration and players know there is a maximum wage at the club

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and they will be happy with that. Do not punish the players for

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chronic mismanagement. You will see a scenario where the bigger clubs

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get bigger and pay whatever it takes with him that to get a lead

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core of the best players in the world and then they will stop it

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with young kids that will cost them nothing in the grand scheme of

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things. The better clubs with the better people in charge of find a

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way to do it and the gap will get bigger. The money people have to

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make sure they do not do that. The supporters will be punished because

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they have we have read the ones without a club. The players will be

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happy with a maximum wage and be paid week-in and week-out and

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football has to be sustainable. still think you are wrong. Your 3-0

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score so far, you might see the way That is not maximum wage, that is

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maximum percentage of turnover. A different argument.

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League Two action now, and it's a busy week for Crawley - in action

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tonight against promotion rivals Southend, and we'll see that

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shortly, but they were also in action on Saturday, hoping to let

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their football do the Torquay. Torquay keeper Robert Bellis Nick

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made this saved after just 10 Bournemouth with two up at

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Cheltenham. Cheltenham showed good attitude. They get back into it did

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this penalty given for handball. Look at the urgency after he takes

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the penalty. They know there is a chance because Swindon lost. Duffy

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gets the equaliser as well. Good attitude as I said but they missed

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a big chance there. Just watch this header from Aldershot's player. A

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new club record for them, six wins on the trot. Aldershot ended on a

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low with a red card. A solid Rovers came up against an inform keeper in

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Macclesfield, Richard O'Donnell. Good appointment of Mark McGhee.

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Are you happy? You should be. Plymouth's unbeaten run came to an

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end with a great strike from Gillingham's a Joan Martin who was

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later sent off. It is a difficult one in four of them I hope they can

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be out of the bottom two by the end be out of the bottom two by the end

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be out of the bottom two by the end of the season. He is what the

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bottom looks like. Here they are Things looking difficult for

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Plymouth and their manager not experienced at this kind of thing.

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We were talking earlier and you think he needs to take a backward

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step. Yes he is a young man and when you're in it, you need to come

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out of it to see the wood from the trees. Sometimes when you have lots

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of games you are not doing a lot of training, so have a couple of days

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off because it is intense and come back with new batteries. It needs

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something So, Crawley, 1 win in 8 for Steve

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Evans' men, dropping from promotion favourites to the fringe of the

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playoff places. Would it be, Crawley from the wreckage tonight,

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against Southend? Let's find out with John Roder.

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Difficult conditions on the Essex Difficult conditions on the Essex

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coast for both these sides. A strong wind behind them in the

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first half. Davies with the free kick. Picked up by Neil Harris.

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Davies is there. Teasing shot. Good save. First good opportunity for

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Crawley. Who now have some defending to do. It is Harris at

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the other end. Drags his shot wide. Simpson is on that far side. It is

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Josh Sims and. Clarke! That has to be handball, it is a penalty! Chris

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Barker and he knows what is coming. The Southend captain, it is a red

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card. Southend down to 10. Barca in the goal. Clearly uses his arm to

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block the shot. Can and Billy Clarke get his first goal for

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Crawley? Up against Cameron Belford. Belford saves it. And gathers the

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rebound. An opportunity that Crawley and Billy Clarke simply

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could not take. Good hype from the goalkeeper to make the block. --

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good height. Cummings. Dickinson with the challenge. Dickinson is

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signalling to the bench. He is in a lot of trouble here. Problem now

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for Southend. They will have to play the final 10 minutes and added

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time with only nine men having used all three of their substitutes.

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Cummings. Toros couldn't get there. Clarke! Just get the feeling it is

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not going to be Crawley's a night. not going to be Crawley's a night.

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not going to be Crawley's a night. And so there is the top of League

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two. Southend moving a point closer to Cheltenham and Swindon and

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Crawley still between Torquay and Oxford. Aldershot making their way

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to the top half of the table. Less impressive from Crawley. Just one

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point against a nine man Southend. A big chance with the penalty. And

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you have to take these chances. We see deliberate movement of the

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armed at least he did not catch it. What do you make of the penalty?

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was his shot stopped on the line. Cameron Belford has come up with a

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good save but it is not a good height. You have to hit the roof of

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the net. Just one win in nine for Crawley. Since they lost a striker

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and you cannot score goals and if you can't score goals you can't get

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