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And you think Michael McIntxre gets good guests. From Sirs and lords to

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Football league royalty. Welcome to Late Kick`off.

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Cooking up a storm, it's bedn an eventful weekend for Chesterfield.

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Barnsley's best ever business ` the man who started work at Oakwell 68

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years ago and is still going strong. The only pair I ever had, mx mother

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knitted them. Yorkshire is going to Wembley again, Tigers V Blades in

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the FA cup semis. Well, the weekend brought otr teams

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the usual mix of good and b`d ` and we've got the ugly sorted! That s me

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and John Hendrie anyway, I wouldn't dare say that about Chris Morgan.

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You can have your say too ` we read the good ones that are sent via

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twitter. @bbclkoyl is the address. Where else to start but with the FA

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Cup yesterday ` a superb quarterfinal win for Hull Chty, but

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staying with our Football Ldague remit, the bigger story was at

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Bramall Lane. Chris ` happy days are here again. Yeah, yesterday, you

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could see how much this meant to everybody, the players and

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supporters and everybody connected to the club. The staff as wdll. A

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great achievement ` for a ldague one club to be going into a Wembley FA

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Cup semifinal is magnificent. You are better placed than anybody else

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to have seen the changes as the season has gone on. Has it taken

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your aback what has been happening? To be honest, Nigel has to take a

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lot of credit for it. When he came in, we didn't have a great start to

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the season, he came in, no big fuss, just told the players what he

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wanted. He repeats it all the time. To be fair to the lads, thex have

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taken it on board. We now h`ve players playing the best football

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they've ever played since they came to the club. Nine wins in a row

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tells it own story. Something lovely about a Clough as a manager, and a

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Clough going to Wembley. Absolutely. His old man didn't get therd, never

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won the FA Cup final. They got to the final. It would be great for him

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if they could go all the wax. It must be a tough task. All credit to

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Nigel. I love the way he works his football clubs, at Derby Cotnty he

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don't have much money. He sdt solid foundations, through the ac`demy to

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the first team. Given time, he would do the same at Sheffield. A good

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signing as manager. My abidhng memory is of a fully bearded Adam

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Cork, you have another bearded wonder, John Brayford. It is the

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look now. They are going for that look. He does take stick, btt he is

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a great signing for us. He has come in and just proved why he h`s come

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from, a premier club, he has been excellent but he needs to look at

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that beard. It is fearsome. I tell you what we're going to mention

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Hull City, the Tigers a story in their own right. When the draw was

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made, Manchester City were still in the competition. Both Hull `nd

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Sheffield United would have wanted one another. It is a great draw for

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our region. Steve Bruce has done a great job. At the start of the

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season, you were sat five points above the relegation zone and taken

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that. They have been excepthonal this year. Hopefully it will not be

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a distraction from their le`gue form, but Chris, Europe, yot could

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be in Europe? Yes, as daft `s it sounds we could be. I think it is a

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great semifinal for the reghon and as we said yesterday, when xou get

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to the semis, you don't want Arsenal and Man City. A big occasion like

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that, at Wembley, two reallx good teams, both teams that is the draw

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they both wanted, that is not us being disrespectful to Hull City.

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They are a Premier League ottfit and it will be real tough game for us.

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We'll look forward to it. A lot to happen till April.

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Well, we move ten miles or so from Sheffield now, to another of our

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region's form sides. Ahead of the weekend Chesterfield sat proudly on

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top of League Two with just 12 games remaining. The man who's led the

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Spireite's resurgence is manager Paul Cook, and we've been whth him

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around a lively return to hhs old club Accrington.

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Football in general, people come onto things too quick. If you go

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somewhere and you're not re`dy to go. You'll come back. What we're

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trying to do, myself and thd staff, we're trying to take the cltb

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forward at a nice steady pace. Where can this club go? Let other people

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answer that. I have ambitions to manage at a higher level. I have

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ambitions to manage this cltb at a higher level. I do not like getting

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involved and saying stuff, xou can shout your mouth off. Footb`ll puts

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you on the seat of your pants quickly. This the pre`match nerves

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bit. This afternoon ` Chesterfield and

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Accrington Stanley! Three goals down, missed ch`nces,

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penalty appeals rejected, D`n Gardener stretchered off. Accrington

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down to ten men at half timd. Tempers flared. It is a hostile

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game. You are always open to criticism, as a manager you have to

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be able to take criticism. Hf you think you are the bees knees, I

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don't think I am. You don't get everything right. If you ard not

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prepared to know you have f`ults and make mistakes, you live in ` shallow

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world. Cook banished from the dugout for the second half put central

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defender Ian Evert up front in desperation. All we are singing is

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give us a goal. The experimdnt paid off but it finished 3`1 to Stanley.

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Poor but we will still go up, no problem. Shocking referee. Can't

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blame it all on him though, we had an off day. What do you do on days

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like this? Go to the pub. G`ve a couple of sloppy goals and we missed

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a couple of great chances and in the end we get nothing. I don't know

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where we're sitting... We'rd still top. We're at Wembley and wdre

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having a torrid time. But there are plenty of people who would swap with

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us. Media interest in Chestdrfield is booming partly due to th`t

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Wembley appointment at the dnd of the month when his crew will attempt

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to emulate the class of 2012 in the Johnstons Paint Trophy final. What

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an opportunity! This time bdcause no mistake.

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I think about Wembley every second minute of every day, anyone who says

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different is telling lies. Ht is a fantastic day for the club. Four or

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five weeks before it it is just great. We look forward to it. I

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don't ban talk of it. We talk about it. How can you ban talk of Wembley?

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I get tickets and different stuff every day. It's great. You dream of

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things like that when you'rd a young lad. Being a manager is no

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different. Thank you very mtch. See you soon. It's been like a cribs but

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it's not my house. See you later. Still smiling ` and with good reason

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` despite us putting the mockers on Chesterfield's weekend! Mord on that

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in moment, but first our other two in League Two.

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Sir Ian Botham was famously once a Scunthorpe player but they seem to

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be copying Sir Geoffrey by getting there in singles. They went ahead

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against Northampton early in the second`half. When the visitors had

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former Doncaster man Ricky Ravenhill sent off for a second yellow card,

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the three points looked asstred . The Cobblers equalised throtgh the

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second half for the eighth draw in ten games for Scunthorpe. All those

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draws proved costly. York chty, Nigel Worthington taking his team to

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Wembley, one day short of the year since its first day in charge. A

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different kind of winning goal forhim this week. More chances came

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for in form City but one`nil will do nicely. Mansfield away tomorrow for

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Worthington's 50th game in charge. It seems like nobody wants to lead

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from the front in league two. York marching up the hill, six unbeaten,

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only four points off the pl`y`offs. York more points than anybody else

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in 2014 so far. Back to Chesterfield, they had a bad day,

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and the manager was a naughty boy as well. Yes, there at the top of the

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league. Everyone has a bad day the office. It is how you react to that.

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He said, let's move on here. It is difficult going back to your old

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club. You want players to pdrform for you on the day. He has to go

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back and get result because the local Accrington Stanley fans will

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be on his back. But this is comic or that scene. He has to look `t the

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big picture in saying, right boys, onwards and up words. I was

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interested to hear his take on Wembley, he is not banning the W, it

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is encouraged. I got asked the same words last week if we had b`nned the

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word. Wednesday ex`mac the boys have worked hard. It is an opportunity so

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why not talk about it. Why not look forward to it. I agree totally with

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Paul Cook. You have worked hard to get the so talk about it and enjoy

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it. Scunthorpe are enjoying themselves at the moment, 18 games

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unbeaten. Are thes draws becoming a problem? No, if you were sat in a

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promotion position. It will all come down to the last month of the

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season. If you get the ball to go over the line, that's when ht

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counts. Psychologically, we have not been beaten for so long, it is

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massive. Big chance blown against ten men at the weekend? I know they

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are down at the bottom, but they have spent a few bob and thdy have

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high hopes for the rest of the season. Would you like to bd here?

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He is happy with that. Chesterfield and Scunthorpe still top in league

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two. Coming up... Hell and high water in the

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championship. Seven! And ond sharp operator and Billy Sharp go man on.

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And it's to Doncaster we go now as Neil Morrow starts his round up of

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what happened in the Championship on Saturday at the Keepmoat ` where

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Rovers had the upper hand on Huddersfield.

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Doncaster were beaten by five last week while Huddersfield won by the

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reverse score but on Saturd`y it looked like Doncaster were the side

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in form. Billy Sharp did wh`t he always does, his little toe poke

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made one nil to Rovers after half an hour. They doubled their le`d

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through David Cotterill ten minutes into the second period, makhng a

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point about his fitness levdls. Huddersfield put in a strangely

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muted performance and rarelx threatened to repeat their heroics

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of last week. Rovers the thoroughly deserved winners of the Yorkshire

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derby. Danny Wilson needed proof hhs side

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could bounce back after thehr thumping by the Terriers. The first

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half produced few chances. This shot from Djamel Abdoun was the closest

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to a goal. A delightful bit of skill put the Reds in front against Forest

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six minutes into the second half. The former Bayern Munich yotngster,

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Dale Jennings, with this superb finish from 20 yards. Barnsley were

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not comfortable and needed this terrific save by Luke Steeld but

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they held on claiming three potentially vital points cole the

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end of the season. Unfortunately for Barnsley,

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Sheffield Wednesday couldn't do any favours for their South Yorkshire

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neighbours, and relegation threatened Yeovil. In the fhrst half

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of few chances in Somerset, a sweet strike from Ishmael Miller put the

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Glovers ahead in the 41st mhnute. Wednesday went further behind, soon

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after the second half resumdd. Again it was Miller, this time with a

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wonderful strike to make it 2` nil. And Wednesday's afternoon wdnt from

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bad to worse, when Sam Hutchinson was sent off later on for a second

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yellow card. A bad day at the office for the Owls. Leeds were arguably

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the better side in the first half against Bolton, but an injury time

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goal for Joe Mason proved the game's turning point. If United cotld

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consider themselves unlucky to be behind at half`time, the second half

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was a horror show. Lukas Jutkiewicz doubled Bolton's lead, and soon

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after, poor marking and another free kick saw Leeds' defence go @WOL

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again ` Zat Knight with the finish. Jutkiewicz then turned provhder for

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Wanderers' fourth, Mark Davhes handling the ball home in the 7 st

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minute. Bolton's fifth came when Brazilian Andre Moritz hammdred home

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Wanderers' overwhelming adv`ntage. United did grab a late goal through

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Matt Smith, but it was no consolation on an awful aftdrnoon

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for Leeds and Brian McDermott. Only Leeds in the top half, as f`r as we

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are concerned, but only just. Non`movers at least after S`turday's

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disaster. Huddersfield and Wednesday both down one, and the tablds show

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just how important those wins were for Doncaster and Barnsley, with

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both Yeovil and Millwall winning too.

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Why is it, Chris, that some players just suit one club so well? Billy

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Sharp and Doncaster just sedms to go together. Yeah, in both spells, he

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scored goals. Obviously I played with Bill at Sheffield Unitdd, and

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he is an out`and`out goal`scorer. I was actually at that game S`turday,

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and I think he's got a good foil as well in big Chris Brown. Thdy play

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well together, but, yeah, Sharp as a goal`scorer. I think he has found a

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home at Doncaster. He has come back to South Yorkshire, and he looks

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happy and as though he is enjoying football again. A good day for the

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teams struggling at the bottom all round in the Championships, John.

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Barnsley, Dale Jennings. Thhs is a boy with a big reputation. He has

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had problems to overcome ` hnjury and discipline problems. Can he

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fulfil his promise now? I'd like to think so. Obviously he was out in

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Germany. He went to Bayern Lunich. Strength coming off the lind there.

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He knows he can come inside and have a crack at goal. That has bden a

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problem for Barnsley this ydar, scoring goals. It always will be. I

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think the key is at the back. If they can keep clean sheets, they

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have a chance of staying on. I'm not sure they've got enough goals in

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there and such. He certainlx has his part to play. A cracking go`l. When

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you are looking at a situathon like that, fighting for every pohnt, you

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need some individuals to stdp up. He has the ability to do that. Just a

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quick word on another of yotr old clubs, Leeds. We saw Chris Stirk,

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the groundsman. He was like the boy with his finger in the dyke trying

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to stem the water at half`thme on the weekend. The flow of go`ls

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couldn't be stemmed, though. Problems after problems. It was a

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shambles. They would have probably thought they had a good chance at

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half`time, just one down. When you concede two free kicks and bad

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marking back`to`back within minutes, then you've got problems. Brian

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McDermott, we understand, spoke to the owners after the game. H would

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love to have heard that conversation. It's difficult for

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Brian. The sooner it gets sorted out, the better. Next meeting is on

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Thursday. Hopefully the picture will become clearer for Leeds Unhted

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fans. Going to League One now, and Sheffield United's Cup engagements

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meant no game for Rotherham this weekend, so our only action was

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Bradford's match at promotion`chasing Brentford. It

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wasn't quite the curse of the old boy, but it was Bradford`born

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Clayton Donaldson who put the home side in front after an hour.

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15th goal of the season for the former York striker. It bec`me these

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two bantams when on` loan Chelsea man George Saville scored, `nd that

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means back`to`back defeats for Phil Parkinson's City. John, thex are

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safe enough, but is their sdason in danger of fizzling out?

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Truth be told, they are onlx about six points above relegation. It was

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only the two 1`nil victories over Port Vale and MK Dons. I thhnk they

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still need a few victories. Fingers crossed they will still be safe as

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houses. Quiz time now. Two of Don Rovers' finest get the chance to go

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man`against`man in Man On. Richie Wellens, midfield. Billy Sh`rp,

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striker. What is the oldest of Britain's five classic horsd races?

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St Leger. Correct. I'm a galbler, aren't I? What is the capit`l of

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Australia? A. LAUGHTER. Which former England player and

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manager was born in Doncastdr? Kevin Keegan. Kevin Keegan. I put that

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buzzer in! I got that. What, no What won this year's Oscar for best

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film? 12 Years A Slave. Who will Doncaster Rovers play on thd last

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day of the season? Leicester, away. Two points for that? How many

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substitutes are allowed in the football league? Three. Sevdn. How

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many substitutes on the pitch?! What is the name of Scooby Doo's nephew?

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Oh, what is it?! I don't know. I watch it every day with the kids.

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Scooby Doo's nephew. Shaggy. Scrappy! Arggh!

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Calm down, Richie, it's onlx a game. Honestly, some of them take it far

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too seriously. Now, the word "legend" is b`ndied

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around far too easily in thd world of football. But Barnsley's Norman

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Rimmington is someone who properly deserves the title. Norman hs one of

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the nominees for a Football League Unsung Hero award ` and aftdr 6

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years in the Tykes' service, we say he fully deserves it. Nathan Lord

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has been to meet him. # Cos he gets up in the morning

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# And he goes to work at night. # And he comes back home at 5:3 .

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# Gets the same train every time... #.

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Meet Norman Rimmington, the most loyal man in football. He's 90 years

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of age and he's still working as kit man for his beloved Barnslex.

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# And he's, oh, so good. And he's, oh, so fine.

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And he's, oh, so healthy. # In his body and his mind... #

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Good lad. How are you? Mmm. I'm all right. I've got me minion, haven't

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I? Nah, you don't talk to us on a Monday. Just ignore us. I whll this

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Monday for you. # A well`respected man about town...

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#. Norman signed for the Reds `s a

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goalkeeper during the wartile league in 1946 after leaving his job as a

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fitter down in the pits. I was 3 years of age when I started here. We

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had the training session, and my job was to evade incoming forwards. So

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they came at you and tried to eat you. Corner kicks and everything.

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They just went to eat you, xou know? A lot more physical. I think it s

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better that they seem to protect the goalkeeper so much nowadays. It s

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far better than being hit. @fter a dislocated shoulder, two broken

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metatarsals, five broken fingers, and a broken leg, Norman decided it

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was time to hang his boots tp in 1952. But that didn't stop him from

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working at his club. For thd last 62 years, he's gone on to do jtst about

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every job at Oakwell. I was player, coach, groundsman, and physho. And

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kit man. So I've done 'em all. Nowadays, Norman spends most of his

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time at the club in here, the laundry room. This is where all the

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work is done. But it is the glory days on the pitch he likes to

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remember. What about these, Norman? How have goalkeepers' gloves changed

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since when you started? I ndver wore them. Never? No. We never h`d

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gloves. The only pair I had, my mother knitted them. And if it was

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raining, they were bloody useless anyway. But, no, they all wdar them

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now. Everybody wears them, don't they? It must've stung your hand,

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though, when the ball hit your hand. Well, aye. That's why I broke my

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fingers. My fondest memory, I have so many, I should think when we got

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two promotions, with Allan Clarke, and then when we went into the

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second division, and then of course the old team in the Premier League

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with Danny. They were great times, you know. But we've had rough times

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as well. I've seen, in my thme, 27 managers, which is ridiculots,

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really. He's a great lad. Hd knows the job. He has to work with what

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he's got, though, hasn't it? He s not a magician. He is the f`bric of

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the club, and without him hdre, I would've lost myself, because over

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the years we've been togethdr, we would be lost without him. Not so

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sure he would say the same the other way around, but there you go. He's

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been fantastic, and the amotnt of high regard he is held wih `ll the

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players and all the staff as well. He is tremendous. It's good to have

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someone like that around. Wd call him the "Barnsley legend", "Mr

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Barnsley". Someone with expdrience. He still comes in every day, first

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in and last to leave. He's magnificent. When you have someone

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day in and day out for that long, it gives you a boost to come in

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yourself and get on with yotr job. If he's coming in at night, what

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excuse do we have? Does he offer you some tactical advice? Yes. Dvery

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Monday morning he gives me ` rollicking. LAUGHS. Yes, he does.

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Not just now. When I first stepped into management when I came here, he

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was a tremendous help as well. I think from that point of vidw, he's

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never changed. He'll still offer us great words of wisdom, from my point

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of view, and the rest of thd staff as well. Do you agree with lost of

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his tactics? You have to. H`ve you seen the size of his hands? I had a

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chance to go to Southampton, Norwich, I could have gone with

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Allan Clarke to Leeds. He bdgged me to go with him, but I said no. I

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said, "I'm not interested". So I didn't go anywhere. I stayed here,

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cos I love Barnsley, and Was brought up in Barnsley. I've lived `t

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Barnsley my whole life, and I've watched Barnsley. And I've

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dedicated... Well, it's been my life, hasn't it? At Barnslex all my

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life. Every football club ndeds a Norman. Absolutely brilliant

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character. Chris, he's more than just a kit man. He's the cltb, isn't

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he? I don't think you can s`y enough about Rimmo. What a charactdr. I owe

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him a lot from when I was a young player. A great help to all the

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players. Young players, all the players, and like Danny said, the

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managers over the years as well Fantastic fella. A real good

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football man, and a gentlem`n. A proper Barnsley man. He's lhke a

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special adviser to Danny Wilson Was he like that in your ear? On Monday

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morning, if you were on a downer or a low, you would walk in to Norman

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and see him, and always walk out on a high. He'll always put a smile on

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your face. He would always say it the way it was, but in his own way,

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but we all loved him. And e`ch and every football club, didn't we,

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Chris? Much revered. It's good as well for the younger players to have

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a bit of history about the place, and learn about the football club

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they are playing for. It puts a different slant on it for the

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younger players. Sometimes they should go and ask Rimmo for his

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advice. They may not take it, but every wee bit of advice helps you.

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He's a great character to h`ve around the place. It is gre`t to see

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him and how fit and well he's looking. He's worthy of that

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accolade, if he gets the aw`rd. Chris, will we still hear your voice

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booming around the corridors at 90? I'd love to look as fit as Rimmo

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does when I'm 90, yeah. Lovd to Incredible character. More clubs

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should have a Norman Rimmington because they are the fabric of

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football, and particularly the football league.

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What is coming up? We have plenty on this week. On Tuesday in thd

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Championship, it's a tough one for Barnsley, with league leaders

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Leicester the visitors. Doncaster Rovers play Watford, and Ledds face

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Brian McDermott's old side, Reading. Could be a pivotal game, th`t. On

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Wednesday, the Owls travel to Wembley`bound Wigan. In League One,

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Bradford go to Colchester, `nd Rotherham are at Oldham. Both of

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those games on Tuesday. The next night, Sheffield United try to make

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it ten wins in a row at homd to Carlisle. In League Two,

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Chesterfield are at Wimbledon. York are at Mansfield, and Scunthorpe at

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home to Southend, all on Tudsday. As ever, live commentary, rdports

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and everything else on the games involving our teams will be covered

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on your local BBC Radio station And a quick mention too for the BBC

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iPlayer. Late Kick Off everx week ` all week, if you like ` with all the

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other regional editions avahlable for the next seven days. My thanks

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to John and to Chris. Enjoy your football this week, wherever you are

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watching it, and we will sed you again next Monday night. Good night.

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