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Evening all, we've got an arresting programme for you tonight. Here's

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Late Kick-Off. Cop that - James Coppinger makes it

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400 and counting for Doncaster. Barnsley's stopper turned Dutch

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copper - it's Arjan de Zeeuw of the Yard.

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Only when they got to the airport, he told me it was Barnsley.

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And we'll see how our own boys in blue fared at the weekend.

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Good evening. And straight on with tonight's identity parade. Dean

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Windass has committed a few fashion crimes in his time. In And we had to

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have Brian Laws on tonight, didn't we? This isn't just thrown together,

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you know! You can start your own line of questioning via Twitter.

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We'll leave the police puns now, thank goodness, and get on with the

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football. And a footballer who has become part of the furniture at

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Doncaster Rovers. James Coppinger joined the club almost ten years

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ago. And on Saturday against Birmingham City, he reached the

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milestone of 400 Rovers appearances. Paul Burland was there for us.

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MUSIC: "MY HERO", FOO FIGHTERS. It's been a long journey, ten years

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at a football club. I've enjoyed every minute of it.

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Commitment, skill, good team player. He is one of the reasons we moved up

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to the League, he's played that well.

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Brilliant player, holds the team together, never stops running. 110%

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every game. Just a Doncaster legend, really.

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Fabulous. Our hero! # There goes my hero, watch him as

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he goes #. It's ten years since James Coppinger

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joined Dave Penney's Doncaster, newly promoted back to the Football

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League. Apart from a loan to Nottingham Forest in 2012, he's been

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there throughout. The people are fantastic. I have

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grown to love the place and the whole philosophy, the whole team

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spirit. The work ethic that we have here hasn't really changed, to be

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honest. It's a good place to be and a fantastic club to apply your

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training and play football. I've seen a picture of him when he

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first signed, and he looks completely different now. For the

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better, I should say! He is a legend of the club. He's a great

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professional. A very good player and to make 400 appearances for the club

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is a massive achievement. Billy Sharp has been the beneficiary

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of Coppinger's vision on more than one occasion, including being on the

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finishing end of a 28 pass move at Leeds last week. But it was the

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victory over their Yorkshire rivals at Wembley in 2008 that tops the

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bill for Coppinger. Along with a promotion-clinching win at Brentford

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in the dying moments of last season. To play at Wembley and beat Leeds in

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the final was up there as one of the most memorable moments in my

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footballing career. And to score the winner last season in the last

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minute to take us up as champions was fantastic.

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Appearance number 400 was duly marked on Saturday. Fittingly, it

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was club record holder, Colin Douglas, who did the honours. And on

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26 minutes, the Rovers faithful applauded their number 26. Ten

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minutes later, they were ahead. Paul Quinn lashing the ball home.

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One up at half-time and Coppinger's red letter day seemed to be going to

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plan. But Rovers were finding Birmingham keeper, Darren Randolph,

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in fine form. Federico Macheda came back to haunt

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Rovers, after spending the back end of last year on loan from Manchester

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United. And Lee Novak put the visitors ahead. Another defensive

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lapse let in Macheda again. I've had some fantastic moments, but

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like any footballer, you have moments when you want the ground to

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swallow you up. I've had those moments here, but the fans back me

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up nine times out of ten and you like to repay them. It's been a

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great relationship. Dean, 400 games up, 40 goals. It

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makes you feel old. I remember he was a young prospect at Newcastle.

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It only seems like five minutes ago. He's been there a long time. The one

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thing you get with him is consistency. His football

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intelligence is very good. His team-mates rely on him to perform

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week in and week out. There is some pressure from him as well, that he

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has to perform. The supporters love him. It's not often you get someone

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staying that long. Brian, we know that managers never

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stay anywhere very long these days. It's the same for players as well.

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There is a huge churn. What does it say about his consistency to keep

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getting new contracts and to keep performing?

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Well, absolutely. The first point is that he is a nice guy. To talk to,

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within the football club, everybody likes him, so he has that

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likeability. He's played under five managers, which tells you he is

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liked and respected by everybody. To be at one club for a long time is

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rare. It would normally be a defender, not a striker. He is

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moving back. As you get older, you move back

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anyway. He's been sensational. What a good

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player. Here's to many more James Coppinger

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games. Have you noticed as soon as we mention a club doing well, we put

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the kibosh on them! Now, the rest of the Championship. We start with

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Friday night's flight for the Owls down to the Foxes.

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Visiting Leicester was always going to be tough for Wednesday. The owls

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took the lead when striker Riyad Mahrez fired across keeper Chris

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Kirkland from the edge of the box. Wednesday battled back and in the

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37th minute, they grabbed an equaliser. Michail Antonio, back

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from injury. His shot beat Leicester keeper, Kasper Schmeichel. But the

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owls were beaten when Anthony Knockaert scored a terrific free

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kick. Wednesday had chances to claim a point, but it wasn't their night.

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It finished 2-1 to Leicester. In the midst of the club's crisis in

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the boardroom, it has sometimes been forgotten that Leeds' form on the

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pitch is just as worrying. This strike by Wigan's Martin Waghorn was

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enough for Latics to take all the points. Leeds were better in the

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second half, their best chance this cheeky chip by McCormack. But this

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was another lacklustre performance by Brian McDermott's side.

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Huddersfield seemed to be heading for their fourth draw in six games

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at home to Bolton. Town were the better side for most of the game.

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But football can be cruel. In injury time, Joe Mason's volley gave

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Wanderers all three points. The end of the season is promising

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to be nail-biting for Barnsley. They took a point against Brighton. Danny

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Wilson will probably view it as a point gained, particularly as his

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side had to play the last 15 minutes with ten men, after Kelvin Etuhu was

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sent off. With Charlton losing, there is still real hope for

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Barnsley. Congratulations to promoted

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Leicester. But I'm afraid still only the bottom half for us to look at.

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Wednesday unmoved, Leeds again, and Huddersfield go down a notch. Seven

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games without a win for the Terriers now. Doncaster have been leapfrogged

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by Birmingham. And Barnsley are in a proper scrap, after away wins for

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Millwall and Yeovil. Leeds United lost. But their big

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news came off the field at the weekend, with Massimo Cellino clear

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to take over, it seems. What happens now? Adam Pope has been down at

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Elland Road today, talking to Brian McDermott.

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I spoke to Brian McDermott, who seems to be quite calm, not least a

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bit relieved. The ownership situation looks to be heading for a

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resolution. He hasn't actually spoken to Massimo Cellino, but he

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did receive a text from the Italian saying he was in charge of the club.

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That was on Saturday. Going forward, does Brian McDermott feel this might

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be his last game in charge? He said, if it is, let's hope it's a win. But

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he says every time you manage a game you expect it could be your last in

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charge. So, he's very philosophical. As for Massimo Cellino, he texted me

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today to say he will be at the match at Watford tomorrow night. We expect

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that now the Football League have approved him after his appeal was

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successful, to make sure his vehicle, his company takes charge of

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75% of the club from the current owners. However, there is a caveat.

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We are still awaiting the written reasonings of the judge in Italy on

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Friday she found him guilty of tax evasion on his yacht. At the

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weekend, the QC said that although he was convicted of the crime, it

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was not a dishonest one. If the judge finds that it was dishonest,

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then the Football League might have a way of challenging Massimo Cellino

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again, and reapplying the owners and directors test. And it may be that

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next time, he fails. Goodness me, we're not at the end of

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it yet! Dean, he sacked another manager at Cagliari at the weekend.

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The 36th he has gotten rid of during his time in charge. Brian McDermott,

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it's any game now, isn't it? Yeah, like he said, it's every game.

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But it doesn't sound convincing for him, at the moment.

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Brian, most Leeds fans think, this is good, we can get going again now.

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But it is not as clear-cut as that, is it?

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Well, it doesn't seem to be. I think everybody wants to put that to bed

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and concentrate on what is good about the football club. And move

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forward. That's the only way. They have to get some direction now. It's

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just a question of which direction to go in. That's what everybody is

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waiting for. Brian has been under immense pressure. But reaction has

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been fantastic. He has come out of this well,

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whatever happens. It's going to be a rocky road.

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Coming up: they are not Masterminds, they're Minstermen and they are Man

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On. And we cast a forensic eye on man of

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mystery Arjan de Zeeuw. And that is where we go next. Former

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Barnsley favourite, Arjan de Zeeuw, who left his footprint and

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fingerprints all over Oakwell in a four-year stay. Now, via Wigan,

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Portsmouth and Coventry, Arie, as he is known, is back in Holland. And he

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is a forensic detective. Ian Haslam followed the clues to Alkmaar.

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This isn't the opening of the 1970s crime detective series, Van der

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Valk. This is former Barnsley centre half Arjan de Zeeuw.

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Many footballers retire to a life on the golf course. But this Dutch

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former defender has swapped his boots for a gun. He now works as a

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detective for the Netherlands police. Arjan invited me to Alkmaar

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to get an insight into his life as a detective.

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The department that deals with bigger crimes, murders, robberies.

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There will be some kind of excitement, but usually by the time

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the detectives get to the scene, most of the exciting stuff has

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happened. And it is very tedious research. We also work with

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forensics to find traces of what you think might have happened. We make

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scenarios. Eventually we try to find the culprit and take them to court.

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Do you use your footballing pace? It has helped me a little bit. I was

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running after somebody who legged it and after a minute, they sort of

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gave up because they realised they were not going to get away. He was

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completely out of breath. Professional football came late for

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de Zeeuw. He was studying to become a doctor. After graduating in

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medical science, he was picked up by Dutch club Telstar at the age of 22.

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After four years in Holland's second division, an intriguing offer came

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along which involved a move to Yorkshire.

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I had nearly given up on being a professional footballer. In Holland

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I had decided that would be my last year in that lower division. An

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agent approached me and said I have a club for you in England. He said

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it was in the First Division. It was only when we got to the airport, he

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told me it was Barnsley! By that time I still did not have a clue who

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Barnsley was. But we went there and I had a chat with Danny Wilson. I

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stayed there and tasted the atmosphere and I thought it would be

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an adventure. And sort of embarked upon it. Barnsley is a very working

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class town and there was a lot of unemployment and poverty. So, it was

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a bit of a shock for me to see the big difference between people who

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had money and people who didn't. But on the footballing side, things were

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very different too. The passion of the fans was so different to what I

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was used to at Telstar. It struck a good chord in my heart and I

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thought, I want to try this and see how it goes.

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De Zeeuw certainly struck the right chord with the Barnsley faithful. In

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his first season, he played a key role for the team which won

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promotion to the Premier League in 1997.

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Actually to get promotion, I didn't expect that. During the season, it

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started to creep up on us. We are still celebrating. We are thinking,

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we could put maybe play against Dennis Bergkamp. He is a bit of an

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idol. To play against Dennis Bergkamp and Eric Cantona and David

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Ginola. I was looking at them when I was younger thinking, these are

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good. Suddenly, you are playing against them. Renfrew was the main

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man at that time, he was scoring a lot of goals from midfield and he

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was the skipper. Andy Payton was the most selfish striker I have ever

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met, but he was scoring goals, so you accepted it. Darren Sheridan was

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a fantastic character in midfield, Steve Davis at the back. He was my

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partner in crime at the back. Fantastic lad. And Andy Liddell who

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I rejoined at Wigan for a time. I really enjoyed it. Despite their

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best efforts, they were relegated a season later and de Zeeuw was set to

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leave the club, but manager John Hendrie persuaded him to stay for

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one more season. John Hendrie came and he was a character and he was

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always the joker in the dressing room. It made it even more hard for

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him to actually take on the manager's role. I think it made it

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extra hard as everybody looked at him like a joke. He was always doing

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jokes. When he was manager himself all of a sudden. It was tough. And

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Paul Wilson of course. The man I met who never did a warm up. He jumped

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in the bath before the game, and then onto the pitch. It was a new

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one to me, as well. This is the year the local station's football team...

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I'm not on this one, I have played against these guys a few times. What

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is the standard? They are very energetic, put it that way. You have

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to be careful with your legs. But I do play with the police national

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team. We have qualified for the European Championships in Prague

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this summer, which is pretty good. This is where general police people

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work. He is enjoying his new career as a detective, but how does it

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compare with being a professional footballer? There is nothing that

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compares with professional football. It is the best job in the wall. The

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excitement, the fans, everything. Being together with the lads in the

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dressing room, day in, day out. Such a pleasure. But I still get my

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moments of excitement, trying to get somebody related to a crime and

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trying to get them prosecuted, it is a team effort, you cannot do it on

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your own. That is wonderful. Great story,

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great character. You played against him a few times. They say the

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ex-footballers are thick! Who says that? Well, I was going to go there,

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but I won't. You know what you will get from him. Like he said in the

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VT, he wasn't the quickest centrehalf, but very intelligent.

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You knew when you played against him that it would be a tough game. Full

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credit to him going back to his homeland and doing what he's doing.

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Remarkable career change. It is clear that he still has fond

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feelings for Barnsley where it all began for him. Talking of Barnsley,

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we know what a tough ask it is for them to stay up this season. Can

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they do it? If we look at the fixtures. Can you make a case for

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them staying up? You look at key games. They have some very key games

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coming up. I think next week, they play Charlton. That is going to

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probably be the turning point for me. If you beat the teams around

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you, that is the job you have to do. No point in beating the top teams,

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because the other teams around you could be winning. You have to take

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points off the bottom. Just quickly, the fact they have to do it year

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after year, will that put them in good stead? I think so. The

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supporters are always behind them. They don't have the biggest budget

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in the world. Listen, if they stay up, we want them to stay up, because

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they are the Yorkshire clubs and we have two local derbies in that

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campaign. Let's hope they stay up. We have everything crossed that

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Barnsley will be a Championship club next season. Next, they will be

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joined by Rotherham United and. Paul Walker starts up his round of League

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One with yet another win for the Millers.

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Walker starts up his round Rotherham's season just keeps

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getting better. As they did last week, they went in front early.

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Inside the first 20 seconds, in fact. Kieran Agard tapping them

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ahead against Gillingham. After half an hour, the Gills were level.

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Former Doncaster striker Ade Akinfenwa with the header. In the

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57th minute, Myles Weston to the home side in front. But the Millers

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levelled things in the 69th minute. Richie Smallwood with a lovely pass

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to Tom Hitchcock, who finished with aplomb. A defensive howler by Kari

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Arnason seemed to hand the points to Gillingham, Bradley Dack with a

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wonderful chip. But Steve Evans' men are made of sturdy stuff. Within

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seconds, level again. This time Adam Barrett failed to clear and

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Hitchcock scored his second of the match. A magnificent seventh goal

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still to come. Hitchcock completed a priceless hat-trick in injury time.

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Rotherham won't give up on trying to claim an automatic promotion place.

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Sheffield United's hopes of a late promotion seemed a long shot when

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Orient went in front just before the break. Dean Cox with the finish. But

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the Blades are nothing if not resilient under Nigel Clough. Jamie

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Murphy kept United's promotion hopes alive as well as scoring the 7000th

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League goal in the club's history. Bradford returned to their bad old

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ways against Oldham. Jonson Clarke-Harris and James Wesolowski

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combined to put the Latics in front halfway through the first half. But

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the Bantams were back in contention when Adam Reach, on loan from

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Middlesbrough, scored ten minutes before the break. But just before

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that, Clarke-Harris found room in the box to smash home another and

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restore Oldham's advantage. He was again on target near the hour mark

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to give Oldham and unassailable lead. With seconds to go, Gary Jones

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claimed a consolation for the Bantams, but no time for an

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equaliser. It finished 3-2 to Oldham.

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A magnificent win for the Millers, who move closer to the top two every

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week. Two huge Yorkshire derbys for them this week, at Sheffield United

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tomorrow, then Bradford on Friday. Both of those two looking at a

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likely finish in the middle. There just seems to be no stopping

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Steve Evans' men. He has unearthed another one. Tom Hitchcock on loan

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from Queens Park Rangers. However you get them. He gets the right

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players. When you look at the turnaround of the last two years, it

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has been incredible. To see them in a position where they are now,

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having had a great season last year. He has picked up another gem here.

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Hitchcock has great ability. There is a variety of goals in him. That's

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key for any manager. He can score with his left foot, right foot. He

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can chip, he seems to know where the back of the net is. At this stage of

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the season, it is perfect timing, as well. A half-hour hat-trick it was.

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As Brian said, you go out on loan, they say go and prove what you can

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do. What a hat trick. You have to have different types of goals and

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you have to have the ability to do that. He has certainly done that. I

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want to leave Rotherham behind and go to Sheffield United. I want to

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stroke your excitement. Dash-mac/ It is the semifinal, Hull City

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against Sheffield United. I know you will be in the Tigers' camp. Can you

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make a case for the Blades upsetting the odds? Everybody is saying that

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we are the favourites, of course we are. We are a Premier League club.

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It is a cup tie, an FA Cup tie, it is at Wembley, Sheffield United will

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be up for it. It won't be that easy. If Steve's team don't perform, we

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haven't got centre forward the, whichever the players are front has

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to go and prove and perform on the day. If not, we will get turned

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over. The good news is whatever happens, it will be one Yorkshire

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team in the FA Cup final. That was League One. League Two in a moment.

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After a quick break for a return of the worst quiz in the world, Man On.

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This week, it is York City's Lanre Oyebanjo and Lewis Montrose, and,

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lads, to be honest, I would just go out now if I were you.

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Prior to 2012, when were York last in the Football League?

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I'd say 2003. Which English footballer was the

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first European footballer of the year?

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Frank Wright? Gazza?

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Stanley Matthews. What is the capital of China?

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Hong Kong. Tokyo! Tokyo! Tokyo!

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Beijing. I had two bites at the cherry there!

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What football team does Prince Charles support?

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Who was first? You.

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Me? Aston Villa. Same colour.

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Burnley. Correct.

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Yes! Get in there! In the 1995 to 1996 season, York

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City recorded a famous League Cup victory.

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Against Manchester United? No. He didn't buzz.

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I was finishing the question! You've got to buzz! That's the

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rules. Man United. I knew that as well!

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Thankfully, they are fine footballers. York 's game at

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Rochdale kicks off the weekend. York were always going to be up

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against it at top of the table Rochdale on Saturday. This goalless

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draw was mission accomplished for Nigel Worthington. The extra bonus

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for the Minstermen is that the extra point means they climb back to the

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play-off spot. With Rochdale dropping points, Scunthorpe had the

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chance to go top, if they could beat Torquay by two goals or more. That

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looked possible after Sam Winnall scored after half an hour. Torquay

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had a chance to level, when Winnall was adjudged to have fouled Krystian

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Pearce. But Sam Slocombe dived left to save his eighth penalty of the

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season. Scunny remain second. The first-half between Chesterfield and

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Newport was not much to write home about. But five minutes into the

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second half, Jimmy Ryan had a terrific chip from the edge of the

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box. But the Welshmen inflicted a potential blow to the Spireites'

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hopes of automatic promotion. Max Porter effectively passed the ball

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past Tommy Lee from 20 yards out. It's squeaky bum time in North

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Derbyshire. Russ Wilcox's run with Scunthorpe

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continues, now 25 unbeaten. Only behind Rochdale at the top by two

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goals. That was thanks to York holding the leaders with an

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astonishing seven clean sheet in a row. City are back in a play-off

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place. As for Chesterfield, they are looking over their shoulders a bit.

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Five clean sheets in a row. Largely down to their unbelievable

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goalkeeper. The penalty statistic is amazing. Eight saves in the season.

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He is a brilliant trainer, brilliant lad and a great athlete. From a

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goalkeeper's point of view, you want somebody with confidence. When we

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went into the club, he was short of confidence. He conceded 70 odd

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goals. He needed to come out and have a rest and re-evaluate. It has

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done him the world of good, because he has gone from strength to

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strength and is one of the best keepers in the division, if not the

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best. Talking of keepers, York have got a good one in Nick Pope. On loan

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from Charlton. York conceded one goal in the last 11. Two great

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goalkeepers. That's what you need. Brian said, sometimes goalkeepers go

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through a bit of a blip. You take out and you rely on your second

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choice. That is what has happened. Looking good for both York City and

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Scunthorpe. We have a full programme of fixtures in the championship.

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Barnsley must upset the odds against Burnley. Doncaster go to Bolton and

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the Yorkshire return for Mick McCarthy. Wednesday go to Forest.

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All those games on Tuesday. As is the huge South Yorkshire derby in

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League One. As ever, live commentary reports and all the rest from those

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games will be on your local BBC radio. For a rerun of this

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programme, and all the other variations on the different regions,

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we will be on the iPlayer for seven days. That's it for tonight. My

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thanks to Brian and Dean who will of course be at Wembley on Sunday. And

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for Leeds fans going to Watford tomorrow. Italian for marching on

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together is

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