28/08/2011 Match of the Day 2

Hello. On Match of the Day 2, four cracking matches over a full 90

minutes, with no injury time, in the company of two Premier League

pundits and one Premier League manager, Roberto Martinez. So

Van der Vaart, beautiful! That is excellent. He scores! Kenwyne

And it's gone in. He Dempsey! All four games on the way, as we

take you to St James, The Hawthorns and The Lane, but first to Old

Trafford. It has been the story of contrasting starts for these two.

Ferguson and United or flying, Arsenal and Arsene Wenger are

struggling. The kids look better than all right. The 3-0 victory at

Tottenham on Monday was almost for the rest. Arsenal have been in

turmoil, with Cesc Fabregas gone, Samir Nasri corner, and Arsene

Wenger looked almost going after last week's defeat by Liverpool.

The commentator at Old Trafford is about the flare-ups as the football.

But there is not been quite the same degree of the match station.

United swarm all over Porter more on Monday so it is no surprise that

it is the same Jong team that starts today. Arsenal's gritty

victory in Italy came at a cost, Thomas Vermaelen out, and Bacary

Sagna missing through injury. Arm one chore is in and left back. --

Armand Traore. And shoving just left the foot in. I don't think he

needed to go in like that. It could have been asked the, for Pool-Jones.

-- nasty for Phil Jones. That was behind Danny Welbeck and Wayne

Rooney, and blasted to safety. Theo Walcott is having words with 19-

year-old Callum Jenkinson. -- Karl that, and he scores! Arsenal, all

over the place mac, at the back. Danny Welbeck just seemed to want

to get to the ball, a whole lot more. Thomas Koscielny headed away,

but it was not decisive. Anderson, with the improvisation. Watch it --

Thomas Koscielny could not get there, and Danny Welbeck's

wonderful week continues. A goal, and assist, and a terrific centre

forward display against Spurs, and now he has made it Manchester

was the cheque? It is a penalty -- through for a Theo Walcott again.

Yellow card for Ashley Young, for the way that he rushed over to the

assistant referee to protest. It is a double grab from Jonny Evans.

Theo Walcott had every right to hit the deck. Robin van Persie. This is

a huge moment. And van Persie doesn't, David De Gea! Saves the

penalty from the Arsenal captain. He has had a shaky start to his

Premier League career. But that was Ashley Young's first goal for

Armand Traore, straight to El match. -- to him. It is picture-perfect,

in. Already yellow-carded, the Russian, remember. Howard Webb will

want to have a word. What happens to Andrey Arshavin, now? He has

caught Ashley Young. That would have been a yellow card, had he not

already been booked. Danny Welbeck is off. Even though he has only

lasted 35 minutes on the pitch. And on comes Javier Hernandez.

Jenkinson applied hands to Ashley Young. And it will be a free kick.

And the work in Jenkinson's ear. It will not be the red card to United

fans are demanding, but it will be a lot. -- yellow. He cannot have

too many complaints. You have to prison this one will be all about

Wayne Rooney. 150 United goals! The same as Paul Scholes and Ruud van

Nistelrooy life. But this is Wayne Rooney, with many more to come to.

I wonder how many more are going to go into Wojciech Szczesny's goal

before the end of this afternoon. They have been blown off the park!

Danny Welbeck, Ashley Young, and now Wayne Rooney. Manchester United

have been masterful, and lead Arsenal 3-0, before half-time. The

contrasting moods of the managers. I don't think it has ever been

greater than at this moment. The chance for Theo Walcott, and he

scores! Arsenal have their first League goal of the season. That

remains to be seen how much it will mean, but it lightens the mood,

going into the half-time break. Manchester United in control, but

maybe not quite crews control yet. Yellow card for Johan Djourou. On

the basis of winner stays on, it is Wayne Rooney to have another crack.

Rooney! He makes it look so easy. Manchester United four, Arsenal one,

two goals for Wayne Rooney, two free kicks as good as you will ever

see. Wojciech Szczesny moved, the wrong way. Wayne Rooney knew

exactly where he was going to put the ball. All that practice, well,

They are running away again. If anything, Arsenal are opening up

more and more. How many at full- denied him a hat-trick. What a hat-

trick it would have been. It is getting more and more magical for

Manchester United. That is a touch of genius. It has been worse for

Arsenal. I remember then conceding six goals here, in the days of

Dwight Yorke and Andy Cole. Ji-Sung Park - it is six! Scoring at will.

Park Ji-Sung has his customary goal against Arsenal. His last Premier

League goal was the only goal of this fixture. Now, he has scored

number six, in August. Manchester United 6, Arsenal 1. I was going to

say it is not that bad, but it thumping finish. But he will never

enjoy a goal as little as that. Another for his collection. His

97th goal for Arsenal. But it does not matter much, in the context of

What happens to Jenkinson, already booked, a second yellow card. The

19-year-old is sent off. It is only getting worse for Arsenal. Another

horrible statistic - a player sent off in every one of their past

three Premier League games of the season. It is quite painful to

watch one of the greatest managers of the modern generation suffering

you know. It is a penalty. No trace everywhere, moving forward now, to

Howard Webb. Wayne Rooney has grabbed the ball and demanded a

chance to score his hat-trick. It is a hat-trick for Rooney! A

magnificent seven for Manchester United. As with everything else

he's done today, he made it look like the simplest job in the world.

Wayne Rooney has gone from 149 goals, to 152 goals, in one game,

for Manchester United. Ashley Young! Of course he was going to

score it. Manchester United have put all day past Arsenal. -- eight.

Everything Manchester United it is finding the net, with unerring

accuracy. This has been, surely, the lowest experience of all is

near 15 years as Arsenal manager. One of Manchester United's best

ever days in the Premier League. Eight goals, a hat-trick for Rooney,

one of the many stories to come out of this. Manchester United 8,

Trafford. It is one of the scorelines of the century. This is

the third time that Manchester United have scored eight. The only

time Arsenal have ever done this Did the scoreline surprise to be

you today? He does. You do not expect to be scoring that many

goals. When you see that the Arsenal team is so weakened, we had

to expect to score. I expected us to win because it was a very

weakened team and Arsenal are missing eight players today. It is

unfortunate for them. But to score at will like that, with goals of

such quality. They were fantastic goals. Wayne Rooney's 2 free kicks,

Nani's jet. Good quality goals. The goals were fantastic quality.

must be the lowest you have felt as Arsenal manager? You do feel low,

of course, but you feel especially know when you lose at title or a

final. Today was his humiliating defeat and it hurts very much, but

it is not the end of this season. We were quiet for periods in the

game and we collapsed in the second half because we were weak in some

areas and we collapsed physically. We have not recovered from

Wednesday night and the last 20 minutes were terrible. He said in

the build up that you have said that the for Arsene Wenger and

could not understand some of the criticism he was getting. No

professional sympathy shown today. We live in a cynical world. The

media today are so cut-throat it is hard to understand it at times. The

job he has done for 15 years has been phenomenal. He has bought a

philosophy of football, entertaining players, great players.

I respect that. He has been a big anniversary to me and will continue

to be. Were you be spending some money before Wednesday? We tried

very hard. We work hard on it and tried to sign players, but at the

moment we might sign a striker tonight, but apart from that we

have to work until Wednesday night. The is that the South Korean

striker from Monaco? Yes. Can you ensure Arsenal fans that this will

be a one off? A of course, we can only apologise to Arsenal fans. I

feel it was under a very special circumstances today. We have to

recover and prepare for the next game. A lot of your milestone goals

have come against Arsenal. Your first call today was to 158 goals.

I enjoy playing against them. I was aware of that before the game and

delighted to have scored more than 150 goals for United. Everything

seemed to come together at the moment. Danny Welbeck might be the

only black spot. He did complain about feeling his hamstring tight

just before it and we could not get Nani on quick enough, and for

England because he is going to lose - - not be able to play in that

game. It is a loss for us, too. Hamstrings her hamstrings, so maybe

four or five weeks. It is over, you can look again. I am in pieces.

Roberto, the last a smashing in the Premier League, that was Wigan

against Tottenham. What do you do in the dressing room, do you need

to say anything? Many players react differently to disappointment. In

these moments you find out about individuals. That is what separates

boys from men. You can start something special after something

like that happens. To enter your question, it depends on the culture

of the player, how they react. There is always a shell-shock

involved. Before a ball was kicked, you said you could be very did

could be six goals. We laughed at you and you were stone-faced.

give away to me was the team sheet. You look at the teams as they were

put out and you think, a weakened side because of injury, suspensions.

You look at the bench and the shirt numbers, and the players involved

on both benches. The Manchester United shirt numbers and they added

up to 106. Arsenal's added up to 267. I have really in experienced

team and bench. That showed in the manner in which they got beaten.

They were going forward when they should not have been, dropping off

when they should not have been, leaving huge amount of space behind.

The two full-backs, young players, Armand Traore, I am not sure he is

good enough, the other young fellow, Jenkinson, it was not been told

what to do. They had no plans whatsoever. Allen, where did they

go wrong? You did not see Arsenal having a structure, no discipline.

That was 20 levels below a bad performance. We have been calling

for leadership, for somebody to protect the back for, for back-four

players. This standard you need in this league, when you are going to

win trophies, it just didn't come. The first goal would sum it up for

position here. Somebody should be saying to him, don't go in there.

What happens next would sum up their day. Theo Walcott and Carl

Jenkinson start arguing. What the Manchester United do, they take it

quickly. They are now all over the place. Patrice Everett crosses it.

There are about five more mistakes before it gets put in. You have got

to identify a big danger. This is the third goal. He kept himself in

a terrible position then. It is so bizarre, Tomas Rosicky never even

looks back here. What happens if it comes off the bar or if the play is

still going on. He is just not interested. Compare that with Wayne

Rooney, who has just scored a hat- trick. He runs 40 yards. Let me

tell you something about that. When you start player has just scored a

hat-trick and is running to cover, must always be tried to get them to

play together. Yes, it can be very frustrating, and that frustration

ends up with you arguing with each other. But for any team to go to

the Old Trafford is always a daunting task. Beaded had eight

players missing. The reality of the game was that they were in a very

weak position. We should not take too much out of context. You are

right, but because of the weakened positions, then you'd be more

inclined to get men behind the ball. If Alex Ferguson was taking a

weakened side to Arsenal, he would not have played like that. It was

an easy job to talk about Manchester United, because they

were sensational. The they were probably even playing below their

top, top standard. They ran rings round them. Their passing, their

movement. It is like a practice match. Players getting back. Their

quality around the box was absolutely brilliant. Manchester

City and Chelsea have got it all to do to chase them. Roberto, some of

the goals were brilliant, weren't they? ROBERTO: Yes, the confidence

and their link-up. It looks as if these players have been playing

together for a hundred years, but so many of them have just arrived

at the football club. They just seem to fit in with each other so

well. Why does it seem that this notorious bedding in period does

not seem to happen at Manchester United? That just seems to be

Manchester United. The hardest thing for a player when they come

to the Premiership is the amount of time it takes for them to start

playing like themselves. So excess is the easy part. The hard party's

continued success. Alex Ferguson keeps breaking up the teams and

making new teams. If you look at Tom Cleverley and Danny Welbeck,

they have been bettered in away from the club and brought back in.

We have got Chris Smalling at 21, David Again at 21. Danny Welbeck at

21. Can they win this title with kids? I told you 15 years ago they

couldn't. A quick word on Arsene Wenger, Arsenal fans's phones are

down Torbet, hidden, bury its. There is no doubt that people be

calling for his head. But you would you rather have? Yes, she has not

won a trophy for six years, but he has built something there. He has a

lot to offer the club. It will be a matter of time before he

strengthened his squad. He looks very stressed that the moments and

being asked about his resignation. In my bookie is the right man for

the job. I think he is in big trouble. To games coming up.

Swansea is one of them. Normally after a defeat like that you would

want the next game to come quickly, but he has a fortnight's break.

lot of his players will go off on international duty. Hopefully she

will get some players back. If you have been avoiding discourse today,

that is not even they have a bit tonight. No work for millions of

you tomorrow so stay up late with us, because it is definitely worth

it. Later on, we head to the North East for Newcastle against Fulham.

We then take a trip to the midlands for West Brom v Stoke. And, don't

forget, all the goals from yesterday, including a brace from

young Roberto's undefeated Wigan. Now we switch, as promised, from

red to blue, with Manchester City of the ears now but he will have to

conjure up something special to compete with Manchester City. It is

not any easier as they face a strong adversary. Roberto Mancini's

men are flying. Two victories out of two, confidence sky-high, and

the Samir Nasri joining, they have an even bigger box of tricks to

call on. To add to the sorcery, the Merlin-esque Modric plays for

Tottenham. Tottenham will be looking to exploit Manchester City

in dear. New loan signing Emmanuel Adebayor is ineligible to play

against his parent club. Manchester City have changed their pullbacks,

with Zabaleta or an Gael Clichy coming in.-goal back ups. -- full

backs. 15 months ago, they pipped Manchester City for a place mac in

the Champions League. Now, Manchester still their talking

it is a bright opening by Spurs. He Manchester City have made changes

at full-back, but Aaron Lennon Nasri drags it wide. Brad Friedel

could only parry the it initial effort from the elusive David Silva.

Samir Nasri could not find the who would have seen it late. We

talk about Luka Modric returning, and Samir Nasri on his debut, but

we forget that this player also has and Brad Friedel save Tottenham.

David Silva just ghosted along the Tottenham defence. Friedel pushed

tackle was slightly late and lack control. Van der Vaart, but a

reverse swing on it, and Joe Hart challenge on David Silva.

Manchester City are stretched. And Gareth Bale! Big chance, a big

moment. Gareth Bale, leaning back, 1-0 Manchester City!-Edin Dzeko. He

has been quite quiet by his high standards, this season, so far, but

he got there, Port about a long leg, and beat Brad Friedel. -- poked out.

Looking for Peter Crouch! Zabaleta, committing himself. Gareth Bale

found space and drove in a magnificent cross. The Flying Peter

Crouch cent the header, oh, so goal, to head back across the

goalkeeper from that position. Six goals in five games for Edin Dzeko.

Look at that. Leaning away from goal, and still, he got the power

behind that header. He cannot stop movement this season has been so

Yaya Toure, round the back, and that is hat-trick for Edin Dzeko!

His first hat-trick in English football. Yaya Toure rind -- kind

of run perfectly. -- timed the run. The kind of quality not seen at

Manchester City since the days of Mike Summerbee, when they were one

of the most attractive sides in Europe. It is 4-0 to Manchester

City! Splendid individual goal from Aguero. He started life in the

English Premier League, so very well. He takes on Michael Dawson, B

sample pace, and power has in the top-class goalkeeper. When you have

been so quiet, for so long, in the game, to pull off a save like that.

Younes Kaboul! Gives Tottenham the consolation. Manchester City

exposed, for a lack of contest in the air. US Kabul powers the header

in. -- Younes Kaboul. Well played by Jermain Defoe. Strong signal

from Jermain Defoe. To the Spurs management. To suggest that he

with a bit of cramp at the back of his thigh. He immediately pulled up

and built the back of his leg. Band of are limping down the tunnel. And

Spurs have used their three substitutes and are down to ten men.

David Silva. He -- they could have scored six, or more. Assou-Ekotto

a Premier League hat-trick between these two clubs. Edin Dzeko, for

his 4th, and blocked by Friedel. Dropping off into space, and losing

his marker, whenever he feels like Crouch, but that was easy for Joe

up a couple of beers since coming here last season. Barry, back to

Edin Dzeko, and that is a Supreme goal! He has caught four of

Manchester City's five. Edin Dzeko, smooth, a brilliant curling finish,

and the Dell had no chance. The match ball belongs to Edin Dzeko.

Manchester City, three wins out of three. What there is all positive.

Edin Dzeko was formidable. That incredible victory maintains a 100%

start. Spurs have played two, lost two with a one goal scored and a

conceded. There has been talk about our players leaving. It is probably

the worst pre-season I have had since I have been in football. Is

he moving or going, every day, non- stop. It is all that has been talk

about. He is a main player for us. He is supposed to be playing today.

He tells me that he does not know whether he is right to play or not

at quarter past 11. It has not been the right preparation. Could you

ask for any more from your players at the moment? I have to ask about

the goal that we conceded. I there was lots of good to bowl today.

That seems harsh. I'm a agree with you, we played very well, against

its strong team like Tottenham. But we should pay more attention at set

pieces, because this is the second time we have conceded a goal.

Edin Dzeko, talk about his performance. In it was perfect. He

worked for the team, he scored four goals. One is the difference

between the start of this season and when you first game to English

football last January? When I came, everything was difficult for me,

because I wasn't you, in the best league in the world, and I said, OK,

from the beginning it will be difficult. But now I feel much

better, much stronger after a pre- season. Everything is different.

title is one in August, but is there anyone at the moment playing

better football than Manchester City, anywhere in Europe?

How long were the note at the end of the game? You were there to do.

You could fill and notebook. The reality is that they are very

impressive. That is easy to sign good players, and put them together,

but to make them balk as a team like that has been phenomenal.

Getting that 2 -- that team together and winning things at the

same time is remarkable. Men behind the ball. 11 of them. Edin Dzeko

would have lifted that match Paul and thought, I will be on the back

page of every newspaper, but he might be inside front after United.

He was sensational today. Some of his movement, his work of the ball.

In this position, straight across the front of the defender.

Perfectly timed run. What is the difference between this season and

last season? He looks as if he has lost about a stone and a half in

weight. Pre-season has been great for him. We looked at him on Match

Of the Day 2 a couple of times last season and he looked clumsy, now,

he has found his feet, he is making runs, he is in the right place at

the right time. He put a good shift in today. It is a transformation

from last season when he just could not run. You thought that Roberto

Mancini had bought about, but he has come into this season and he is

playing like that. It is fair to say that the front two were

completely different. Had to be more aware. Now it seems that the

dripping pits into place. mention some of those names, the

Leicester Superstars at Manchester City is a long one. You have talk

about players not making it seem. Are the changing your mind about

Manchester City? But day was different. We have talked about the

spending spree and the fact that they are not going to go away, and

Manchester are united are obviously great team. Manchester City and are

good team. Today, I thought that with the ball and without a goal

they were fantastic. The worry would be that on the right hand

side, David Silva, and Samir Nasri, and when he lodged they would not

double up on Aaron Lennon and Gareth Bale, but it was the

opposite. The system was blue, two holding players, Gareth Barry and

Yaya Toure, and it worked to absolute perfection. What it does

is give the four in front licence to play. It is a great save by Brad

Friedel and they might have scored on that occasion. Same again.

Played down the line. Edin Dzeko eventually picks it up. Four of

them, not another player in shot. And Spurs do well. This time, the

interchange is terrific. Lots of men in Matt there. David Silva once

through the air and it is a great save and when they did not have the

ball, you have Samir Nasri out wide, then David Silva comes into the

picture. He tells the full-back where to go and what to do and it

is a perfect defensive line-up. And did we see this are Arsenal in the

last six months? Nasri, and what about this for tracking back,

playing of the team? We have talked long and hard about being

collective. But when you are being paid �160,000 a week you tend to

Was it as simple as one team was good and one team was bad?

Manchester City were outstanding. I thought Tottenham should have used

their wide players more. I think that the two full-backs for

Manchester City can be got that, already come off his line, there is

absolutely nobody to play the ball too. Aaron Lennon, can he stay

wide? She comes inside. Nobody out wide again. This is Gareth Bale now.

Too many times did you find him at left-back when he should have been

further up the pitch the tent the full-back under pressure. This is

what Gareth Bale can do. One touch, puts it into the box. This is

probably the ball of the day, but to little, too late. He did not get

out wide enough and did not expose the full backs. Too little sub-

plots to the game today. Luka Modric said his day - - said he

said was not right today but Harry Redknapp persuaded him to play.

think we really do need to understand that players are as

human beings. We all have moments when we have to make decisions

about our futures, our family. Every dressing room in the country

I think it is disrespectful to the club, to squat - - to the squad, to

everyone. The window has to exist or transfers. That is important.

But once the competition starts, the window should be closed and we

should allowed the professionals to know where they are and what they

have to do. At the moment we are treating the players as products

and we asked thinking the weekend just dictate their futures.

Thanks, guys. Coming up shortly, West Brom and Stoke looking for

their first win in the league this season, but now to St James Park,

with Fulham simply looking for their first goal. The Magpies lost

Joey Barton this week. He will be missed by the fans and certainly on

abroad. In the league they have picked up just one point. They will

want to get their domestic campaign to brink - - by at drinking

Newcastle again after his winner last weekend. Pajtim Kasami starts

today as Fulham look for their Moussa Dembele at the heart of that

move from Fulham. Always going high themselves in the way. Gabriel

Obertan looking to get past Matthew Briggs, but it is deflected wide

Going for goal, trying to curb it in under the crossbar. - - curl it

nicely for Ryan Taylor, but could not quite place it in the bottom

start to the second half for Newcastle! The long-range shot. It

was an awkward bounce in front of Mark Schwarzer, who did well to

pushed on to the bar by Tim Krul. In towards Steve Sidwell, who just

hangs his run across the front of Danny Simpson, and Tim Krul keeps

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doubled their advantage. Leon Best with both goals, but he owes a huge

debt there to Demba Ba. Gabriel Fulham concede two goals away from

another outstanding save from Tim Krul! It is a delicious ball

forward, Danny Murphy with the run, nobody in a black and white shirt

went with him. I don't think Danny Murphy can believe that that did

not end with a goal. Ryan Taylor back. Just two and a half minutes

and stoppage time remains. Clint Dempsey with the header. It floats

over the Newcastle goalkeeper. Fulham get their first goal this

their mark this season. As for Fulham, they scored their first

At very satisfactory start to this season. Yes, we had three wins this

week. That is very hard to get three wins no matter what the level.

A very good start. It shows the belief in the team, the fans, the

club. We have had a very good start. In any game you will get a couple

of chances and we had as many chances as they had, for example.

The first see if we had to make was after 41 minutes. It is

disappointing if you don't capitalise. Alan Pardew says that

you are not quite the first-choice goalkeeper, but you must be edging

towards that, surely? I had a good meeting with the gaffer at the

beginning of this season and if you show me what you're capable of,

that is what I have to do. Leon Best has popped up with a few

to be big lads, dominant. He was at the right place at the right time.

This is a great touch, a little back-heel. Superb finish. He is 24,

so not a kid anymore. He has a big responsibility on his shoulders.

to the goalkeeper. It is a lonely job being the goalkeeper. Tim Krul

had a very good game. He had a great game. Maybe out of position

for the goal, but comes here, a great pair of hands. Great reaction

save here. Fantastic. This is maybe a bit Holywood. But this is

absolutely fantastic. A wonderful reaction save. Seven points out of

mind, they are going well. It is important to get the points on the

board early. In it gives you confidence, absolutely. And at

least Fulham managed to get a goal. Roberto, two strikers get injured

in a small squad and it is a world of hurt. It is. Then you have to

get creative, use the youngsters in your grip. You probably have to be

more creative and used the youngsters at the club. Do you get

a game in training? It is a great the Tate, when West Brom and Stoke

met for the first time, 122 years later, they are still at it. The

Late show's apart West Bromwich Albion. They were drawn against

United and Chelsea in the first two games and conceded in the last 10

minutes, and cruel game, as you might say. Stoke continue to

improve after a Europa League qualification. There are good

things going on with reporters, with principle, Tony Pulis, leading

from the front. -- good things going on at the Potteries. Much may

depend upon Shane Long again today with the continuing absence of

Peter Odemwingie. Jonathan Walters open to eradicate the memory of a

penalty miss last weekend, in favour of the happier we collection

of scoring twice here last November descended upon it. It was Chris

Brunt who got his head on it, and then took a lack in the process of

connecting with the cross. -- a whack. In the days of black-and-

white you might have struggled to Foster had to be smartly out of his

goal, an East mother, probably, in fairness to him. -- and he smother

Shane Long, and a superb save by Asmir Begovic. A wonderful run an

great timing on the header from Shane Long, and from point-blank

range, Asmir Begovic threw a couple of arms at it, and his reflex

for West Brom. Casually done. And, just for a second, Shane Long was

in. He tried to nick it out of the beach of Begovic. - reach. That was

very casual by Robert half. Shane Long has shown in his brief West

Brom career, how lightly he can be. -- lively. Clipped in towards

Jermaine Pennant. I and that is how the first half fence. That is about

as productive as Stoke City have been in this first harp. Jermaine

Pennant attacked it.-first harp. It would have been a corner kick, had

the half-time whistle not blue. -- blew. Walters, looking to make it a

painful afternoon, as you gaze it towards Glenn Whelan, who prodded

it towards the post. Stoke City almost two advantage. -- took

advantage. There is space out to the right hand side. Somen Tchoyi

went alone. And Paul Scharner is asking why he did not get a bit out

towards the right hand side. It was not too far, but look at the gap

over to the right hand side. Paul Scharner has lots of space, but

Somen Tchoyi went for the thumped it with all his might. But

he could not find the accuracy. He smacked it, but it was off target.

West Brom have scored in all 14 games under Roy Hodgson, prior to

stalks at the had pinched it right at the very end. Ben Foster says he

had the ball in his possession, and referee Mike Dean waves his finger

and says, no you didn't. What a bonus for Stoke City. What a

calamity for Ben Foster. Ryan Shotton just kept on going. And a

little bit of hesitation and he was in. And he could not miss. Does see

have poured hands on it? Maybe he did. It all happens so quickly. The

referee had won a call to make, when you, and he said it was a goal.

Heading for his first away victory in the Premier League in 2011.

Another Late Show for Roy's boys. A controversial 89th minute the-

winner poor Stoke City gave Stoke That looked like it was going to be

a goalless draw. You must be exasperated that how it finished.

Yes, with the fact that we did not defend a simple situation, and now

having seen it on the replay, having seen how high Ryan shot

and's took was, that the referee did not give us a decision that

would get us out of the mess we got into by defending so badly.

that a good decision from Mike Dean? I as I got my foot on it he

got his hand on it, so it was 50- today. If you look at the T man

squad we have at the moment, we have got Kenwyne Jones and Jon

Walters up front and we have got no other strikers. Ryan Shotton has

come on, but we need some extra players to go was that strength

that the club needs. But the players were mad the doesn't again

today. I thought we should have opened master account, and got a

clean sheet, which would have been a definite positive, but we didn't,

so we get on with it, and we hope that the players come back from

international duty bit, and try again. Much better second half than

the first half, and one big decision at the death. Let's have a

good old debate about it. We think it is a foul, but there are so many

mistakes. Gabriel pass was to leave it for the goalkeeper, and doesn't,

and the book comes up. The defender does not cover himself in glory. He

devious to the right. Ben Foster should be stronger. But if that is

given against you to stop in that image, you want to believe that it

is the goalkeeper's ball. But we have watched it 10 or 15 times and

they cannot agree, so it is refreshing to see the referee

making a decision. Mike Dean always Lee thinks the goalkeeper did not

get his hands on it, and it is a goal because he gave it! If you had

been managing Stoke City you would say that it was a goal every day of

the week, and if you were managing West Brom you would say the

opposite! We have been discussing plot 10 minutes. We have not found

an answer. If you go down it seems like Ben Foster has got the ball in

his hands, and Roy Hodgson will think that the referee has been

mistaken. If we get lost three in a row, and you knew that the

performances deserve more, does that eat you warm at night or, do

you just want the points? A you get the benefits down the line from a

good performance. You have no right to get points. If you are doing

certain things will you know you're going to get the points, further

along the line. West Brom performed well, went to Stamford Bridge and

were unlucky not to get something out of it. I am sure that the

points will come. If that is terrible, like the Arsenal

performance... Don't bring that up again! The goalkeeper played quite

well for Arsenal! And that was a positive?! First time that Arsenal

have scored two goals at Old Trafford, in the league, since

1984! Get it bursting Prom tomorrow morning, here is Match Of the Day

2's blast through yesterday's expectations at Anfield as

Liverpool's new boys opened their account. I Stewart Downing is there,

a great save by Jaaskelainen. Henderson still, 1-0! Jordan

Henderson's first goal for Liverpool! Took it really well, too.

Great ball. A terrific save by Jaaskelainen. And Dirk Kuyt, fed

Jordan Henderson, who found the have strong hands there. -- Martin

Petrov. He saw his against Jaaskelainen, just too high. -- oh

Louis Saha is pass - -- Suarez. The corner from Charlie Adam with real

pace, and Martin Skrtel scores! He ran a long way to make it. And he

got a lot of power behind that, too. Charlie Adam, it is three! The

moment it left his boot, you could see it was going in. He cannot stop

Jamie Carragher, and Ivan Klasnic has put the ball in the back of the

Liverpool net. Barely celebrated by any of his team-mates. No goals

again from the Welsh new boys, but this was not a board off. -- bore

draw. John O'Shea was not too far away on his debut. Scots in their

fancies a go. Inches away from Swansea's first Premier League goal.

That should have come from the head of Danny Graham, but it wasn't up

happening for their new signing. Sunderland also drew a blank. So no

goals for Swansea, but a second clean sheet. Joey Barton was in

Matt the stand at Wigan, watching his team is going down, to two

Rodallega, du Franco di Santo! Brilliant goal. One Patch du t it

up, the next to hit it hard into the QPR net. The good work came to

the rescue of Wigan at once again, and Paddy Kenny was keeping out

Franco di Santo. But some shots, you just cannot keep out. Franco di

Santo has ago! Wonderful strike for goal number two. Big deflection on

it. As with his first goal, a deflection, but they are has goals.

The good work here again, but three points from Wigan, and let us hear

Good to be sitting here at the end of August, going into the

international break, undefeated. Yes, they wanted to start with that

competitive edge after finishing last season strongly. The

performances have been very pleasing. Regardless of results you

have been happy over three at 90 minutes. You can always improve, as

a manager and as a team, and that is where we are. We need to get

better, but it is important to keep a clean sheet, the manner in which

we have got the points has been a very good start for us. Sometimes

we like to have a pause and a chat and we usually it -- usually find

an embarrassing montage of photographs to go along with that.

You are a little young for kipper You have got to work on that

celebration - it is almost Arsene Wenger like! Was that real here,

when you were younger? It was natural. Management does that to

you. They heard disappear as quickly. I help that Aston Villa

came in for you over the summer. When I came back I assumed that you

would have gone there. But you decided to stay. Explain the

thought processes behind that decision. I am very fortunate. The

chairman at Wigan is quite unique. His support and loyalty has been

very strong to watch myself and my staff and the project that we

hadn't had. Whatever we have, we have three Anns to work with the

team. And I always felt that it was not a case of going elsewhere. I

did not feel that it was right for a new manager to come to Wigan

Athletic. It seems like a strange question but the pitch, they play

rugby league on it as well. We have production staff, who won the

Challenge Cup at the weekend because they are nuts about the

team, and the pitch itself, when it got sorted out towards the end of

last season, it was more suited to your brand of football. That is

something that we need to work on, we want to play on a good pitch,

but we have got a good grip of grounds that we do a great job, and

that the moment we are keeping the pitch a lot better. The surface has

given us some problems over the years. But now we have a good pitch.

Do you think you can go further than just Premier League survival?

It would be foolish for us to look too far ahead. We want to improve

from season to season. But we have got a young group, and we want, one

day, to think a little bit further, beyond avoiding relegation of the

season, which is a great achievement for us. What is the

single most difficult job about being a manager, for you? Accepting

disappointment. It is always great to have success. When you come

through the Championship you used to winning. Sometimes you have to

accept that success does not come just by winning games. I thought

you would have said agents! Picking your players up, is there a magic

formula for that? That is one of the hardest things. The media

surrounds you and keep reminding you of the is all you had at the

weekend. But as a team, if you can get certain targets, if you are

looking to get them, trying to get results, which is very hard in the

Premier League, to be consistent, with the teams that you are

competing against. We always say that Wigan have got two points out

of the team. I would never do that. He is becoming a fan of the Latics!

Three more games and more goals to start with, starting with Ewood

penalties, two missed by home side, one scored by the away side. It was

a bad touch by Berkeley. Down he goes, and it is a penalty kick.

Formica made a lot of that. Good save. Roberts blasts it in and it

is a corner kick. The were other shots from further out than two of

the arts, but neither side could make the breakthrough. Time for

another penalty. Formica again. And he has missed the penalty. Two

penalties missed by Blackburn Rovers. And it is a penalty!

Penalty given by the referee on the 90 minute mark. Christopher Samba

got to the ball and when the ball. This, to win it for Everton. Mikel

Arteta a! It is all over, 1-0, a controversial penalty put away by

boss in, and what a goal! -- Jose Bosingwa. Still, Martin on the ball.

This is Norton. And turned over. Grant Holt is closing in and he

could score, and he has! Norwich have equalised. It is Chelsea's own

fault, you have got to say that. Grant Holt opens his account in the

Premier League. Didier Drogba's bravely wrote him a night in

hospital with concussion, but as one Chelsea legend into it -- left

the field, Juan Mata introduced himself. And it is John Terry

The referee goes to his pocket Frank Lampard scores. Chelsea go

opens as Chelsea account. He has scored on his first appearance.

No goals in the Midlands, but a memorable full debut for the man

for Down Under, it was almost over before it begun as Chris Herd's

Chris Herd was not done clattering into things, but no penalty and no

I am very pleased for Mick McCarthy. A I think they have started really

well. He will be ecstatic with that start. Alwyn for Chelsea. Are we

seeing the shift going to manage than being a young man's game?

think the manager of Barcelona is showing that you do not be to have

a wealth of experience. Not to give you a loaded question, but it would

be nice... at I think it will be a very intense 10 months. OK, then,

what day in the Barclays Premier League! A quick reminder of the

the boot in and took the points late against West Brom. Manchester

City must have thought their emphatic 5-1 win over Tottenham

would have been enough to see them go into the international break on

the bottom three. On that bombshell, thank you very much for watching.