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30/03/2017: Merseyside Special

Ahead of the 228th Merseyside derby, Gabby Logan looks at what makes the fixture so special, with Mark Lawrenson, Peter Reid, Tony Bellew and David Prentice.


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Welcome to the City of Liverpool. Home to one of English football's

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most alluring fixtures, the Merseyside Derby. On this week's

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meeting, the 228th, between the reds of Liverpool and the blues of

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Everton, will this be a special one in the football mad cauldron. To do

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this, I'm joined by an esteem panel of experts, steeped in local folk

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leer. Peter Reid, a team player in Everton's successful history. Mark

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Lawrenson a European Cup winner with the dominant Liverpool side of the

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1980s, in a spell that included five wins. David Prentice, covering

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football for 25 years fresh from his win, boxer, Tony Bellew, a

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cruise you are champ and a die-hard every tonian. The present

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incarnation is a complex beast, history, tradition, controversy,

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drama. This fixture has it all. # So ferry cross the Mersey, cos

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this land's the place I love... Liverpool children, they say, are

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taught to walk by taking them to football matches. Would you like to

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play for Liverpool? Yes! Everton, honour no object. There are two

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teams in the city, Everton and the Everton Reserves.

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It's a ball for Andy King. Oh, yes, he's got it.

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Andy King, congratulations. Looking for Sharpe. He's behind

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Lawrence, and there he is, Sharpe, what a fantastic goal.

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Oh, a lovely goal. And Rush is on the far side. Is this three? It is!

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Liverpool have won the double. # They can't have it

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# You can't have it # I can't have it too.

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# All together now # All together now

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All together now... # Oh, lucky you

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# There's nothing to lose... And McAllister has a fantastic goal!

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# You will, you won't # You do, you don't

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# You say you will # But you know you won't... And

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surely that's the goal that will win the Derby?! So it's one of the most

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eagerly anticipated derbys in the football calendar. Steeped in

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history, romance, with wonderful statistics attached to it, such as

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the most red cards in a Premier League fixture. But is it as

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relevant, as important to the fans a it ever was? It is as ever, possibly

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more so as far as the fans are concerned. The atmosphere is

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different to the ones that I remember. And certainly Reidie and

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Lawro. You are bringing me in now?! Yes,

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and I probably say it matters even more so.

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No. No. Not having that! It is weird. That concept of the friendly

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Derby in the '80s, it was never friendly. I'll tell you a story. You

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were not playing, I think it was Gillespie and Andy. For 20 minutes,

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we were running on the ground. Barnsy had joined. He was nicking

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it, we coat get a kick. After 20 minutes he missed control. I think I

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know what is coming. I just about caught him. Any how, I hit him.

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Barnsy, England team-mate on the dirt. I have come over, the punters

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are up. You big-eared so-and-so, you this, you that, you horrible. I look

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in the car, I go "uncle Arthur, sit down" He was a red? He was crackers.

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Honestly. But it was a different generation. But even when I was

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playing for Everton, two every tonians, they wouldn't go to

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Anfield. Now, they are doing well. Losing by

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the odd goal. Could you imagine yourself as a

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Liverpool supporter? You are asking me to change my religion! This is

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coming from an Everton perspective but as a neutral, is dislike or the

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word hate, too strong. I know what it is. I will be honest.

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I have friends that will try to wind me up, saying that I'm not their

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Derby. The fact of the matter is, Liverpool and Everton Football Club

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right now in my opinion are at a very similar level for the first

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time in a long time. We're trying to achieve the same thing, a top four

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or top six finish. That's why the game is massive. If

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Everton win it... They are only three points off.

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Is it too strong to talk about this rivalry, hatred? No, it's not. There

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is a respect for both. But when playing it, it does not matter which

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is at the top or the bottom, you don't think going in, who is at the

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top or bottom, you just want to win. And they are horrible games to play.

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Lovely to watch! Tell me your greatest Derby moment, Tony? The

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fivery rut is probably Andy Johnson scoring the two.

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No mistake made by Johnson. And Rayner is in all sorts of trouble,

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allowing Andy Johnson, giving a wonderful afternoon to be an every

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tonian. That has not happened to me for well

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over a decade. You are showing your age! I have a dictophone? Really?

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There was a press conference. We have gone out there, and the fans

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are on Goodson Road, chanting Andy Johnson. He is trying to give a

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press conference. And all you can hear is Andy Johnson. David Moyes

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was loving it. It was a really good display. And

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the last time I have seen Everton against a real class Liverpool. That

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is all I'm saying. These two will have different memories. Mine is

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when we were beaten in the Merseyside cup final.

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Liverpool have won the double. Back in the old Wembley, the

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dressing room, we all went to get into the bath. Remember the size of

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the bath. You had to stand up in the bath. We went to get in the bath and

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three of our supporters were in there in there suits. Soaking wet.

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Come, in boys! Not only had they got in the ground, the tunnel, the

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dressing room but in the bath. My favourite was the goal of the

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season, Sharpe! There is Sharp. What a fantastic goal.

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We hadn't won tor 17 year. But he hit this one in, every tonians from

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Anfield... It was a wonder goal. Offside but it was a wonder goal.

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Let's bring it back to the present day. Everton's last victory in the

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dishaway was 2010. But the Toffees have made progress this season under

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Ronald Koeman. Everton announced Ronald Koeman as

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their new manager on a three-year deal. I'm the new Everton manager, I

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play football for winning the game. It's a first victory in the Premier

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League for Everton under Ronald Koeman.

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Everton are enjoying the ride under Ronald Koeman. Seven points on their

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first night. And Romelu Lukaku has a hat-trick

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and the points are heading back to Merseyside.

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Oh! Nicely done. Everton's best return from the opening five games

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in a Premier League season. Stanislav. A corker! Ronald Koeman

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says he dropped Ross Barkley to the bench against Manchester City to

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give him a wake-up call. Pedro made it five.

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A big win for Southampton! We're in the middle of a tricky one. A couple

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of disappointing results. And it's headed in! Everton can

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celebrate. A quite dramatic victory. And they've scored. If you're an

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Everton fan, football days don't get much better than this. Bardley

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celebrates and scores. Romelu Lukaku with yet another goal! I think

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Romelu Lukaku is a good place to start, actually. In many ways he is

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symbolic of where Everton are at the moment. The ability to keep a player

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like him shows great intent and great ambition for the club. A

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player who has scored more goals than anyone since Gary Lineker in

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86. It is important that Everton sorts

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his future out. He is difficult to replace. A centre forward for four

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or five seasons in the Premier League. He is improving all the time

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and he is 23. Your statistics are spot on. 21 goals and Gary Lineker

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was the last person to do that. They need cleared off. Gary Lineker!

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I know that they won the league in the following season, it was said

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that they relied too much on Gary Lineker. By selling him, that they

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could win the league. But you can't sell a player of that quality and

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expect to progress for years. But Everton would be the same now.

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But you can't hold on to a player like that at his age, breaking into

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the top six or four is tough. With all due respect, he is

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impossible to replace. Let's be honest, a player of Romelu Lukaku's

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age is scoring 20-plus league goals a season, he is not looking to join

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Everton. So if he goes, which every player in the world if you are not

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playing for Real IRA or Barcelona, there is a place.

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Are you resigned to losing him? It is not am I, it is win -- Real

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Madrid. What if you get millions for him and

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then strengthen the squad? As with Liverpool, they have the weak squad

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at the top six. So Everton have a lot of signings to make to have a

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possibility of breaking into the top four. Think it's the only way. With

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top players, people always bite. So you have to get the recruitment

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right. He must have a list ready to go. That is if Romelu Lukaku goes.

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I'm for him staying. Listen, no one man is bigger than the club.

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I agree. There was experience at Southampton,

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Ronald Koeman lost a lot of key players. He had to sell them. You

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get a sense that he is a man with.pigs. And hopefully, Everton

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benefit from it. A successful Ronald Koeman is a successful Everton.

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Romelu Lukaku, Everton were in the same position when they sold Wayne

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Rooney in 2004. Finishing fourth without him. Didn't invest the

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money, they didn't have it. Spent it eventually but became a better unit.

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. This they are in top position. But you are going to get the money. The

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marketplace. Then it is what you do with it. You

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know how much money they will get. Everton are not a club to sell

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cheap. You may have the money but can you get the players into a club

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that is knocking on your door. How do you get Champions League

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players that aren't in the Champions League? It's a clever buy. It didn't

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happen for Manchester United but I tell you what, he is a top throw

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player. Can they attract. We have attracted

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one there, without a doubt. That is what they must aim for. That quality

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of football. Allied with trying to get the young ones looked after.

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And then the excitement around the new stadium, at last. This is it.

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There have been a few almost moments but the Liverpool Water's

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development. There have been milestones in the

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past but this is as close as they have come to getting a new stadium.

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There is excitement about it. This is part of a bigger project for

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Liverpool but it means saying goodbye to Goodison. How do you feel

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about that as a fan? For me it's like saying goodbye to a

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relative who is about to pass away. The relative may be sick and going

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onto a better place, but you're going to miss them. You have to come

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to terms, it's for the best, that's the best way of saying it. I will

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miss Goodison Park, I've many years there, season tickets... But we're

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in a different era, in a different game, in a different business. If we

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get this new stadium, we go to a whole new stratosphere. What we can

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achieve and do. As much as I love Goodison Park, I played when I was

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15 there, an iconic stadium. The atmosphere... You can't guarantee

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anything in football, but I think it will be like a breath of fresh air.

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And also adds revenue streams. I Goodison you can't make any money on

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the day, and the match. That would be a massive thing. In a clever way,

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what Liverpool have done with their newsstand, for me, call me

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old-fashioned, but I think the best football grounds are the ones among

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the chimney pots. To be fair, you've done well with our old ground!

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Couldn't resist it. Liverpool are unbeaten against the

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rest of the top six in the Premier League this season but has struggled

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against a lesser likes. Despite their derby dominance Jurgen Klopp's

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Reds remain a dominant proposition. # See the rivers filled with rain

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# I wish it could be blue again # Hazy petrol lights... #.

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Pushes Chambers aside and scores Liverpool's fourth! What a

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performance from Liverpool! A superb end to a perfect day for Liverpool!

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What a beauty from Jordan Henderson! And his team have secured a big

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three points here tonight. Georginio Wijnaldum! Liverpool, six. The smile

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says it all. Liverpool go to the top of the

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Premier League. We are good, that's what we know, but we need to be good

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in all the games. Oh, it's unbelievable. We gave it away.

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The margin for error decreasing by the week. Llorente! Goodness me.

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Firmino. And they've got it back to 2-2. Swansea back in front. You

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can't just turn up and expect because you turn up that you're

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going to win. Liverpool back on terms. We are

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still there, we still can play football. Mane. Two in just Rennes

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minutes. -- in just two minutes. Liverpool three, Arsenal one. And

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Willie Caballero is Peter mistimed. It's a success to get a point when

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you play like this. I kind of don't want to but I feel

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like I have to start with Jurgen Klopp when we talk about Liverpool.

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I don't know any Liverpool fans who don't love the man. They can't see

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anything negative about him. I don't know many football fans who don't

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love Jurgen Klopp. Outside of football. Yes, and when he was

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appointed, correct me if I'm wrong, even Reidy said, what a good

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appointment. I do like the way his team plays, I do. The next transfer

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window is, for me, the crossroads moment for Jurgen Klopp. Depending

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on where they finish this year, in terms of the Champions League... I

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still think they finish fourth, which if you do, you attract a

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different class of players and push on. He'll have done it with the

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weaker squad out of the top six. But I worry a little bit about the team.

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They are all nice. There's no Pete Reed, no Graeme Souness. I know it's

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difficult to get them, but you'd take them all home to meet your mum

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and I don't want that. I want a little bit of this... They're all

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nice boys. They are probably tonight. Do those players still

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exist? The players like you, Reidy? Since Roy Keane left, I haven't seen

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a player like that. Idrissa Gueye... Not someone that make a challenge on

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you go... The games are officiated in such a way, is there any point in

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having too many of those players? I would be happy with one. Liverpool

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don't have one, to be fair. And I don't think, with all due respect,

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as another Tony and, I don't think Henderson is that the ideal captain

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for that club because he doesn't carry them. I watched Steven Gerrard

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carry that club for over a decade, single-handedly he carried that

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team. That's what I'm saying... There's nobody else. In terms of the

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perception of Jurgen Klopp and the reality, you look at the stats very

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interesting, incredibly similar record to Brendan Rodgers. He has.

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Statistics. On the pitch, the record looks similar, but the style of

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football the Brendan Rodgers team played an Jurgen Klopp played are

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miles apart. He's only been there five minutes, Europa League cup

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final, cup final, and doing it with that squad... It's pretty light at

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the moment, not much depth to it. Do you think he's a success? Made

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progress. Brendan Rodgers got second. Suarez. He was embarrassed,

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was he? As close as any of the managers have come and yet he is

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perceived as a failure, in the shadow of Jurgen Klopp. I don't know

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if he is perceived as a failure. I'd say it's a kick on from what he

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achieved. Second place, is that an achievement? Yes, Champions League

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qualification but it fell apart very quickly. The perception is Jurgen

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Klopp has the team playing in his philosophy, need to add to it now,

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add to the squad. That's why this summer is pivotal in his career.

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You ask any Liverpudlian out there and I think 99.99% of them will be

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absolutely delighted with Jurgen Klopp. What goes on after the summer

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may alter that fact but for the time being... He fits the show a few

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weeks ago, Liverpool above every other club need a manager that's

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more than just a football manager. They have to be a character, almost

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could do five minutes of stand up if they had to. They have that

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charisma, personality and effervescence. I think that's

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probably in the mould of Bill Shankly. You hate comparing people,

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because Jurgen Klopp is Jurgen Klopp, but there is a bit of Shanks.

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I met him on numerous occasions, charismatic, I loved him. Do you

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love Klopp? No. He's all right, like. I always remember when he drew

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with West Brom ended a lap of honour in front of the Klopp. That will do

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for me. He's the only Liverpool manager I've ever liked. What he did

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with that Borussia Dortmund side, and I haven't seen a Liverpool team

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in all my years of watching football, play with the ferocious

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pace they play with now. I think they tire out this. Equalled out in

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January. It will throughout the season, but when they are on it,

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they are hard to beat. They are a frightening opposition. Being a

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former player, you look at him and think, I could pray for him. I was

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going to say that. You don't know say that about many managers.

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Predictions, Tony? I will happily take the draw I'm sorry. Reidy? 1-0

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to Everton. 2-0, Liverpool. Liverpool have been outstanding

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against the top six was even I think it will finish as a draw. Two

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drawers and two wins. What is your prediction? That's it, that's all we

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have time for. Gentlemen, I think we could debate this all day but time

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to wrap things up. Before we go, let's see what else lies in store in

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the Premier League this weekend. # I get knocked down, but I get up

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again... #. Sensational goal!

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# Error-free woman, every man, join a Caravan of Love

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# Stand up, stand up #. Fantastic strike! And that is

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brilliant! # I'm still standing... #.

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Great reactions from Troy Deeney. # Meta- goal on Monday, took her for

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a drink on Tuesday... #. Olivier Giroud! What a goal.

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Brilliant. Subplots galore and whilst the guys continue to chew the

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fat downstairs, that's all from us in Liverpool. Midweek games means

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there's no show next week, so join us in two weeks' time. We leave you

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this week with this take on a crazy season so far...

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I'm a prime MC, before music I had dreams of being a footballer, even

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Tottenham Hotspur. Now I spit bars for a living.

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Now I see all these Premier League stars trying to get on this MC thing

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from Yannick Bolasie to Paul Pogba. After all these years in England...

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See what you've been missing... It's time I showed a thing or two. First

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things first, you have to make sure you pick the right beat. Crime is

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like football, fast paced, very energetic. Let's try one. -- Grime's

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like football. The next thing is your concept. Today I'm going to

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spit bars about the Premier League, the managers, the goals, the

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players. Let's look at this season's highlights. Benik Afobe, nicely

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done. Theo Walcott! Sensational Arsenal goal.

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I've written my bars, now it's time to write things down.

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Harry Kane is a force, Patrick 's # Liverpool the strangest

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# Everton will be gone next year, you won't remember them

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# N'Golo Kante, his pedigree # Leicester City won the late last

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year but sacked their manager that's a wrap, one take.

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That's my tip for any of you Premier League players who want to be a

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grime MC. Next time I might even show you some skills!

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Ahead of the 228th meeting of Liverpool and Everton, a look at what makes the Merseyside derby so special for generations of fans. Gabby Logan is joined by Mark Lawrenson, Peter Reid, boxer Tony Bellew and journalist David Prentice.