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The King's Road in Chelsea -

for so long now synonymous

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with the capital's fashionable

and famous.

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But on Sunday afternoon this stylish

corner of west London will be given

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over to some of the leading icons

of the football world,

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as the home side take

on Manchester United in the latest

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instalment of one of the Premier

League's great rivalries.

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It's there for the shot. Across

Terry and scores.

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Hasselbaink. Oh, yes. Scholes. Its

had to be. This is Zola. Scores.

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Giggs. Superb play by Manchester

United. Van Persie. Conte.

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Conte.

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Hello, and welcome to The Premier

League Show from Chelsea.

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Joining me today, two dedicated

followers of fashion in the form

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of Jermaine Jenas and comedian Elis

James.

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Clothe as important as ever to the

modern footballer.

Of course, we are

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on the King's Road. Is

Suited and

booted. Not so much for comedians.

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This is new.

Is that the best you

can say.

I can't compete with

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Germain, he is very handsome.

You

both look very fashionable. Here is

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what we will try on for size today.

Gary Lineker meets Cesc Fabregas for

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a wide-ranging chat on his coaches

and country. Shane Duffy on adapting

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to the Premier League with Brighton

and we will discuss the key talking

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points from a busy seven days. Last

Saturday marked the an versery of

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Cesc Fabregass seen your debut and

the beginning of ta glittering Kara

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Mbodj rear that seen him Garner

trophies so plenty to discuss when

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he sat down with Gary Lineker.

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How are you. Nice to see you.

I brought you something.

You have

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kind.

I don't know if you have it.

I

have a Barca shirt but not a Messi

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one. It is signed.

You are a big fan

of him. Do you like it?

That's

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great.

No problem.

This is Fabregas. Cultured play from

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the 18-year-old.

Brilliant Fabregas.

Fabregas. .

You went to Barcelona,

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the famous breeding ground for

footballer, what it is about that

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place and why does it produce so

many world class players?

I think it

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is easy to say, I mean, all the

coaches, they are top, all the

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coaches are dedicated, 100% to

football. I don't think they have

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any other job, the way the first

team play, you play, so, you already

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are growing up, for me, the big

advantage you have an identity as a

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footballer, you sign for Barcelona,

you know you have certain qualities,

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that the club wants, from you.

It

has been a hell of a decision to

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move from there, at 16 years old to

come to foreign country, big town

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like London.

Yes, it was. I just

turned 16, and you see Arsene

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Wenger, there waiting for you,

cutting his holiday to see you. For

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me it was a bit like, what have I

done? They made an offer for me,

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Arsene Wenger was clear, he wanted

me to train with the first team

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since day one, and I am not going to

lie, it was tough, but, fantastic

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opportunity, I mean at Barcelona it

was so difficult and you had the

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like of Iniesta who didn't reach the

first team, he was seen at the next

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big thing. I had to make the

decision I did it, it happened and

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here I am today.

Fabregas.

You have

worked with some of the great

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managers. Let us start with Arsene

Wenger, what were his great

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strengths?

For the young player, I

think he is the best manager anyone

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can work with.

Why?

He has

attribute, it is near him possible

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to have, which is patience. But he

just has patience to see, this guy,

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see something in him, I am going to

go for it. You play but bad game,

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you play two bad games but he still

trusts you, until he gives ewe

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chance, the right chance to show and

to prove yourself, and the other

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thing is the freedom he gives you to

play football.

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And Fabregas, he has made it four.

Arsenal's youngest ever player and

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goal scorer.

I know what he did to

me is not really normal, because of

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the, of the age I had especially,

because I was 16, and to give me

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that, that freedom after all the

time he made me captain at 21.

A

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brilliant goal, scored by their

captain Cesc Fabregas.

That

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responsibility on the pitch at such

a young age, for me it is like a

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second dad. I always said that.

Eventually you returned to Barcelona

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of course and Guardiola, was he

hugely influential in that decision?

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Yes, it wasn't easy, because I had a

big responsibility at Arsenal. The

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club gave me basically everything,

and, you feel sometimes, you can let

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them down a little bit because they

trusted me so much, but I stayed

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there eight year, I gave everything

that I had for the club, and I hoped

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maybe I wasn't happy with.

Such as?

Different thing, different things

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that maybe I shouldn't talk about,

that Arsene Wenger knows them all

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because I explain him all my reason,

but I felt it was the time to change

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and, and to have a new motivation.

Guardiola, is he on a different

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level?

Yes, he is a fantastic coach,

no-one can deny that, everywhere he

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has been, he has been able to, to

make that impact about what he

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wants.

You played under great coach,

there is Wenger, Guardiola, there is

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Mourinho, Conte, the real contrast

in style, and personalities, who do

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you think improved you the most?

That is is a tough question. I can

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only say that the one thing I am

rally proud of is all the managers

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that you mentioned, that I have been

able to adapt myself, my football to

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each one of them. Every one knows

that I loved to have the ball at my

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feet. I would always prefer a team

that has 70% possession like Arsenal

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and Barcelona. Now we don't have as

much possession but I have to do

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other things that the manager

demands, and I adapted very well in

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the last two years, with Mourinho I

had an incredible season, that was

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one of the best of my career, the

Premier League, the first time I won

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it, I remember going on my knees,

with such a relief they, holding my

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hands up like, saying than you, it

was a competition, I played it so

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many years and some of them I was

close, to be able to win it with a

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fantastic team under Jose was

fantastic experience.

It was

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strange, I said that extraordinarily

good season under Jose and it fell

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apart. Why do you think that was?

I

still wonder myself, some time,

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because it was such a shame, and,

and you go to bed some time, and you

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think about many thing, sometimes

you cannot sleep and sometimes it

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bothers me, because I could see it

from the outside as a fan, I could

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think myself, like these guys aren't

even trying, they forgot to play

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football. You felt that the six

months, we were not close to what we

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really were, just a year or less

before it happened and we felt bad

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for it.

How is your relationship

with Jose?

Good. We still talk

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today. He is probably the manager I

have had the best feel, the best

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connection, apart from Arsene

Wenger, but the one I kept most

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contact with was Jose.

Then Conte

comes in and you runway with the

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league.

Yes. It took time as well,

because I remember at the beginning,

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it took a while to get on with it,

to start well.

It's three.

How did

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he turn it round?

The loss at

Arsenal.

Arsenal outstanding.

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Chelsea have real, real problems.

Straightaway, after we won 2-0 at

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Hull, the team plays well, we were

at the high level and I think

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straightaway, the mentality of the

players were like, hold on, this

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system works well, it fits every

player, everyone felt really

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comfortable in that system and from

there, we just took off and nothing

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would stop it.

Kind of brings me

round to this season. There are a

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lot of mutters that the players are

not happy because they have to train

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too hard, is there new truth to

this?

No, no. Not at all. The only

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thing that we can say is that last

year there was no Champions League,

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and it is a real truth, and we know,

you know, I know that it's, it is

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tough when wow are involved in the

Champions League, you know, when you

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have the whole week to train, hiss

methods and the fitness coach, you

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know, his mentality is very Italian

mentality, we have to run and be

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fit, and recover well, but this

year, because of the Champions

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League, we are not having that much

time, because every three came --

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days you cannot play on the

Wednesday, play Saturday and

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Thursday, what you are going to run?

It is impossible, you need to

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recover, you need to be well back

for the weekend, so that is not

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true.

There have been times when you

have not been first choice, how

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frustrating is that for someone that

lives to play so much?

Well, to be

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honest, last year was the first time

really, that I, I wasn't first

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choice, and it was tough. It was

tough. I will not deny that, because

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when you play 13 year, you know, at

the top and you've always been very

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important do your coaches and to the

team and all of a sudden you feel

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like, well, you are not even nearly

part of the team, because for a few

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games I wasn't even involved, and

then, I said listen, I complain and

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I moan and I cry, or, I show this

manager that I am the best here and

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that I can play, maybe it is true

his style when it first came it is

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not the most suitable to me, maybe,

but I will adapt and work hard to

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make him see I am very important for

this team and that is what happened

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and the second part of the season,

when I had my chance I took it, and

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since then, until today I played

every single game.

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Iniesta, this is it. That is goal.

Spain have surely won the World Cup.

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You have won the World Cup, European

Championship, league, cups

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everywhere, what was the greatest,

must be the World Cup, I suppose,

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coming, creating the goal as well.

Well.

Well done Fabregas.

That must

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be some feeling.

That is the best I

have ever had. Being involved in

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that final, and changing the game,

how I helped it to happen, and be

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involved in that goal, and when the

referee whistles the end of the

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game.

Try and describe that.

I

can't. I swear I can't. It is just,

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it was such a relief, it was such a,

a proud moment, how lucky I am. I

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cannot believe it I am here. We are

all crying like baby, the first

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person I see is Xavi. He had won

everything. He was crying, hugging.

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It was a really special moment. I

don't think anything can come close

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to this.

It's Spain. European champions.

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World Champions.

You are in your 30s now.

Yes.

How

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would you like to end your career,

here or...?

I don't know and I don't

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want to think about it because every

time I make plans, they never go the

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way I want. So I just get op with

it, whatever comes comes,

I must say

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if they are not going the way you

want they have had an extraordinary

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career, I don't know what you want.

You have won everything, there is

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one major competition you haven't

won, the Champions League.

Correct.

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Is that the one you need to tick

off?

I would love to, I am, it is

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not an obsession s obviously, I've

won things that I could never

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imagined, but it is a thing that

it's, it is here, you know, I keep

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it, and I would love to win it in

one year, so hopefully with Chelsea.

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Don't play well, and it has been

really interesting talking to you.

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Thank you.

Really interesting to hear from Cesc

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Fabregas at this stage of his

career, been through so many great

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club, won so much and still,

agonising over things that go wrong,

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want to adapt his game and reach the

highest heights

The fact he wants to

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adapt his game or has to, a new Mag

has come any thought that was

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fascinating. I felt that right at

the top of the game, the players

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like Cesc Fabregas have a mentality

of I am fan fab I have won World

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Cups if you are coming to manager me

we will do it my way. For him to

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understand Antonio Conte came in, he

was sat on the bench. It wasn't I am

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going to spit my dummy out, it was

what can I do to get back in the

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side. He probably worked harder and

went on to lift the trophy again,

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and, that, that was fascinating to

me, I have to say.

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And I hope in a way it's kind of how

you would expect top sports people

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to be. He went always find everyone

wants to do everything around you

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but his relationship with his

managing -- his managers is

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interesting, isn't it?

He has won

two European Championships and a

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World Cup, countless titles and he

has sleepless nights because the

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dodgy six months with Jose Mourinho.

Have a sleeping pill, get over it!

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Maybe that is why I am not a

footballer. I'm so impressed by that

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drive, to have that. I was amazed he

is only 30, he clearly still has

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back inside him.

He didn't have a

great week in Europe and neither did

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Chelsea. Not a particularly

straightforward season for them so

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far. What is the crux of what has

not gone right for them so far?

It's

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quite simple, I think, when you look

at Leicester when they won the

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league, they didn't have any

European football. They fell into a

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rhythm of training, play at the

weekend, and Chelsea did exactly the

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same thing last year, no European

football to worry about, found their

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rhythm and went on to win the league

fairly comfortably. This year, all

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of those issues are out there in

terms of training schedules, players

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getting more injuries, has Antonio

Conte not really found the balance

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between pushing the players and

resting them?

Can take and Havard

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haven't been the players they were

last year either?

True, Hazard

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didn't have a great pre-season. That

is needed when you are getting into

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the rhythm of things. I just don't

like to hear these kind of leaks

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that are coming out of the club.

When I hear things like players

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aren't happy with the training

schedules and Antonio Conte is

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having to defend it, I didn't hear

any of that when they won the

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league, so it worries me to hear it

now.

Does it mean you don't have the

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right players?

It shows how

imperative -- how competitive the

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Premier league is now that they are

the champions and yet man city are

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incredible, Manchester United have

becoming credible under Jose

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Mourinho and if you stay still, you

will end up faith, which shows just

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how good the Premier league is.

I

wonder which Chelsea we will see at

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the weekend against Manchester

United. Jose Mourinho does not care

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if he has a dull victory, if he has

more points at the end of the

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season, he doesn't care what the

swashbuckling side across the city

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are doing.

He had his way of

managing and his style which is that

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he will look at the fixture list,

his games away from home, as he did

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when he went to Anfield and thought,

I need to get a result here. We

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don't have to play the game to win

well, as he did against Spurs. That

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was a must win game. I think this is

nightmare game for Antonio Conte. I

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can see them making it very

frustrating for them, possibly

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nicking a win because Chelsea aren't

in great form.

He is such a

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pragmatist. And that shushing thing.

He is a character. I don't even know

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who the real Jose Mourinho is. He

seems to be playing a role.

I

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personally love it. It's a very

liberal way of putting a coat of

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armour on, isn't it?

It was 1-1 wins

for Manchester United and Chelsea

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last week but here is what health

has been going on in the last seven

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days.

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Silber has Walker wide. Walker, a

tap in for Raheem Sterling. Another

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wonderfully well worked goal. 28

points from a possible 30. What an

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opening this has been for Pep

Guardiola's side.

Oh, it soon. Aaron

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Ramsey. Three points for the gunners

on the 800th match of Arsene

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Wenger's Premier league career.

There is more to come from us and

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this is what we want.

What a finish.

A big embrace for his friend.

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Liverpool back to winning ways.

Antonio, a poor delivery.

Easily

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back to Speroni. Saha can't find a

way in. Can he? Oh my word, he does.

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2-0 down at the break, Crystal

Palace bring it back to 2-2.

We are

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gutted. We can't concede a goal like

this.

There is great, was being

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impeded by Davis but still got free.

And away from Rooney. And he picks

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out Mahrez. What a goal that is!

Finished by Jamie Vardy. Claude Puel

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must be thinking he has inherited

one heck of a side if they can do

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that.

I think, I don't know, never

perfect but it was interesting to

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see that.

Here is good Manson, he

shoots, save, I really good save.

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Into the mix once again. Crosby! He

scores. Burnley break the deadlock.

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Three points that move them up to

within three of the top six.

It's a

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nice looking October. Like I say,

it's not a sprint, it's a marathon.

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Sean Dyche marking his five-year

anniversary at Burnley with that win

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over their opponents. Surely five

years gets you a statue with the way

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things are in the Premier league?

It

has been remarkable what he had done

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in the five years, that is what is

special. The fact he took them up

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and when they came down for a year,

the owners stayed with him and I

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think that was special. That has

enabled him to have the stature he

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has now. If he does go, it will hurt

them but he will for ever be thought

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of in a good light.

He is being

linked with every job going at the

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moment. The one that seems to be

sticking at the moment is evident.

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It won't be a huge surprise to

Everton fans because he has been so

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coveted but it would almost put him

be a risky move to leave the club

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where he is so segmented and

settled?

Maybe he is too

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comfortable, maybe at ever ten the

club will tell him to clear his

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throat. Maybe that is the movie

needs. Needs Bill Kenwright to say,

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Abbas Tapsell, maybe gargle. He has

been so good at Burnley but in the

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current climate you only get ten or

12 games, so it must be a very

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appealing move to such a big club,

but a risk.

And Manchester City, can

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we get a word on them? The talk now

is can they go a season unbeaten and

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Kevin De Bruyne has told us it's

much harder than when Arsenal did

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it. Don't expect that.

Should that

be a name for them? I don't think it

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will be an aim for them at the

moment. Not at this stage of the

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season. I think he right as well, I

don't think they can go a whole

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season unbeaten. They are playing

some of the best football we have

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ever seen in the Premier league.

Arsenal did it, Manchester United

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managed it and this Manchester City

side show out just as much.

They are

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such an exciting team to watch, I

love them.

I loved hearing Pep

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Guardiola saying that he realised he

had to score at least three before

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he can take his foot of the gas.

He

needs to start shushing people.

And

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a quick word, Jermaine, I know it

wasn't Premier League, but that

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victory over row Madrid for

Tottenham? It was absolutely

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remarkable. They went to Dortmund a

couple of years ago and kind of

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failed that test. Last year in the

Champions League, it didn't go well

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either. This was a chance for Moritz

Pochettino to look at his squad and

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say this is what I've built, this is

what I am proud of, and they could

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go on from here. It could be the

clicking point were Dele Alli as

0:24:100:24:14

well?

I think we are being a bit

harsh on him.

Not harsh, I am just

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suggesting we could bring him back

to the standards of last year.

Yes,

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this will only do good for his

confidence so I would expect more

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going forward.

0:24:300:24:32

Following a 34 year exile

from the top flight,

0:24:320:24:34

Brighton & Hove Albion

are experiencing their first ever

0:24:340:24:36

Premier League campaign.

0:24:360:24:37

After a slow start,

the Seagulls have taken flight,

0:24:370:24:40

and one man central to that is Irish

defender Shane Duffy.

0:24:400:24:42

We've surprised a few teams already

so far and a lot of pundits out

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there felt they didn't

0:25:040:25:05

so far and a lot of pundits out

there felt they didn't expect us to

0:25:050:25:07

do so well so far and we are just

taking it game by game and not

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getting ahead of ourselves.

Brighton

are going to win away in the Premier

0:25:100:25:15

league for the time.

To be where you

are in the table after ten games,

0:25:150:25:21

that goes to show how could you

actually are.

It's just a belief in

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the squad, I think. From the

manager, we believe as well we have

0:25:250:25:29

got a good squad. The last couple of

years where everyone knows each

0:25:290:25:33

other and he has brought in a couple

of good signings that has helped us

0:25:330:25:37

this season. It's a tough league and

as easy in the points, it's not a

0:25:370:25:41

massive difference between the

bottom three and where we are, so

0:25:410:25:44

we've got to keep ahead of ourselves

and with Swansea, who's next, or

0:25:440:25:49

even if it's Manchester United or

Manchester City, we have got to take

0:25:490:25:53

them as seriously as if it's Swansea

and that's what we're doing. It's a

0:25:530:25:58

game we think we can win and we've

got to go their positive and try to

0:25:580:26:02

get three points.

To be playing back

in the Premier league. Did you think

0:26:020:26:05

he would be playing at this level

again?

You always have doubts

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because it's so difficult to get

back in the league, you think, can I

0:26:100:26:14

get back? But I was believed in my

head that I could, given the

0:26:140:26:19

opportunity, and I'm back where I

was before I was 18 and it's been a

0:26:190:26:23

great start to the season. There's a

long way to go now.

0:26:230:26:31

They'll be more of that interview

with Shane Duffie with Juliette

0:26:310:26:34

Ferrington asking the questions on

Saturday. He has been important to

0:26:340:26:39

them this season. What have you may

generally of Brighton's Premier

0:26:390:26:43

league live so far?

I think that

Chris Hughton has settled them in

0:26:430:26:48

very well indeed. He gives them that

ability to kind of see what is

0:26:480:26:52

happening and decide whether they

want to attack and open up or

0:26:520:26:56

whether they want to stay and defend

and try to make points. Sometimes he

0:26:560:26:59

gets criticised for it but it is

working for them.

Of course, they

0:26:590:27:08

are up against your team this

weekend.

Swansea, I should say, in

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case you didn't know. It's a big

month because we are playing

0:27:110:27:13

Brighton, Burnley and Bournemouth.

We need to start picking some points

0:27:130:27:20

up because I think we are

realistically one of those seven or

0:27:200:27:24

eight clubs that are in the

relegation battle.

With the likes of

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Brighton.

Yes, so I am absolutely

gutted that they are doing all right

0:27:270:27:34

and I am also so gutted about losing

to Ireland. I couldn't watch that

0:27:340:27:41

interview, I am sorry.

0:27:410:27:48

So it's Brighton for

Swansea this Saturday...

0:27:480:27:50

But the Premier League weekend kicks

off in the Potteries

0:27:500:27:52

as Claude Puel seeks

to extend his perfect

0:27:520:27:54

start with Leicester.

0:27:540:27:54

start with Leicester.

0:27:540:27:55

At 3 o'clock, West Brom will seek

a first win in nine matches

0:27:550:27:58

when they travel to Huddersfield,

while Burnley visit Southampton

0:27:580:28:00

aiming to move into the top six

ahead of Liverpool's tea time trip

0:28:000:28:03

Plenty of fireworks

in store on a bumper

0:28:070:28:09

Sunday that features four

games, including those heavyweight

0:28:090:28:11

clashes at the Etihad

and Stamford Bridge.

0:28:110:28:12

A big day too for Everton

as they look to move themselves

0:28:120:28:15

out of the bottom three.

0:28:150:28:16

And it's also a busy

weekend of FA Cup action -

0:28:160:28:19

our first round coverage kicks off

on BBC 2 tomorrow night

0:28:190:28:22

as non-league Hyde United seek

to upset the MK Dons.

0:28:220:28:24

That's all for this week.

0:28:240:28:25

Don't forget, if you missed

anything then you can find

0:28:250:28:28

the show on the iPlayer.

0:28:280:28:29

Thanks to Jermaine and Elis.

0:28:290:28:31

Who appeared to get on well.

I

thought so. High hopes for him. I

0:28:310:28:37

think he's got a lot going for him.

High praise indeed.

0:28:370:28:42

We'll be on Tyneside next Thursday,

and Newcastle captains past

0:28:420:28:44

and present will meet

when Alan Shearer interviews

0:28:440:28:46

Jamaal Lascelles.

0:28:460:28:47

Until then, enjoy an exciting

Premier League weekend on the BBC.

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Goodbye.

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