08/05/2016 MOTD2 Extra

Good afternoon, welcome to MOTD 2 Extra on BBC Two,

Radio 5 Live and the BBC Sport website.

Joining me today Leicester keeper Mark Schwarzer,

journalist Amy Lawrence and Match of the Day commentator Guy Mowbray.

Use the hashtag #bbcfootball on social media, or text 85058

We will be discussing Lester's crowning moment.

Coming up: Leicester are crowned Champions.

We'll reflect on an emotional day at the King Power.

Sunderland are on the verge of survival after beating Chelsea 3-2.

Norwich's hopes of staying up look precarious -

they're now 4 points from safety with just 2 games remaining.

And we'll look ahead to a big game at the Etihad,

where Manchester City face Arsenal at 4 o'clock.

A number of the back pages have turned blue in Leicester's honour,

It has the headline Happy And Glorious.

The Sunday Mirror focuses on Middlesbrough's promotion

to the Premier League with the headline "Bo-nanza",

saying Boro win a ?200 million shoot out.

Quique Sanchez Flores will be on the shortlist to replace

Roberto Martinez at Everton and that Ryan Giggs will quit

Manchester United if Jose Mourinho is given

Only one place to start. Guy Mowbray was at the King Power Stadium

yesterday. Why are you here?! Surely you should still be celebrating? We

are very grateful that you are here. I am sure some of my team-mates will

still be celebrating but it was a little bit different for me. I have

not played a single minute. I was completely overwhelmed and excited

and happy for the boys and what they accomplished. It has been fantastic

to sit back and watch the club are involved in the 18 months that I

have been there. Go from relegation certainties to winning the

Premiership. It has been reported time and again what an incredible

story it is. When you had finished your lap to of honour, what did you

do? We sat around in the changing room for a bit. We chatted. The

dressing room was pretty quiet because pretty much every single one

of them was on their phones! The youth of today! It is incredible. I

cannot even count the number of times I have said, was it me? Was it

something I said? Half of them do not lift their heads from their

phones. That is just the kids today. It was very well managed. It was

absolutely superb. You would not have thought they had never won the

title before. They looked like seasoned professionals. The club

itself, there was a lovely touch were medals were handed out to the

children of the players. That was absolutely lovely. That was from the

club, I think. It went smoothly. It was celebratory from the morning all

the way through to the early hours. It was a privilege and a joy to be

there. If our home is anything to go by, I do not think three generations

of my family would have crowded around the telly for previous

celebrations. Everybody made a point of being in front of the telly to

watch the trophy. That is what this story is about? I agree. We have

become accustomed to familiar people winning. And also the sense that you

know how it is going to be because it has become such a well organised

thing. I do not think it is destination television. All sort of

people I know, who would not normally watch if Chelsea won it,

wanted to see Lester pick up the trophy and how it is. Nathan Dyer's

face was something to behold. That was part of it. Before we have said

title winners. It has been about winning the title, not the symbolic

trophy. Yesterday it did feel as if that was the first moment anybody

could really believe it. It was real at that moment. I would say so.

Throughout the course of the season, the closer you get towards the end

of the season, the more realistic it becomes. I never sensed a moment in

the changing room at any time, even leading up to Monday night, that was

the most nervous anybody has ever been. Before that there was no

nervousness. Everybody took it in their stride. The guys kept going

on, stuck to their job. The manager was brilliant. He kept everybody's

feet on the ground. He said, keep going, keep playing, I want you to

improve. Play how we can play. Get better every week and the results

will come. The other thing I thought was really good, Wes Morgan really

took his time before lifting it. He has spoken this week about imagining

this moment. That 20 seconds before he did it was obviously composing

himself and trying to in some ways believe he was about to do this.

That was the point when everybody realised this was the moment we had

won the league. Some people will say it was a downer that we had to rely

on another result. But it was the course of the season. We deserved to

be where we were. The league table never lies. We said it time and

again. You were there because you deserve to be there. The result,

even though it was based on winning the title on Monday night, was done

throughout the course of the season. We thoroughly deserved it. Can I

make a point about Claudio Ranieri? I thought it was really very moving

and meaningful to see a guy who had waited so long to actually win

something, as he had, and whose career, they will be at Chelsea next

weekend, and at the beginning of the season people went, look, Mourinho

will be playing Ranieri if he is still there at the end of the

season. And Jose Mourinho, the stereotype of a guy who is

completely obsessed, fixated by winning, is the one sitting on his

sofa watching Claudio Ranieri, the nice guy who had never finished

first, having this moment. The message it sends out is that we must

value this idea of improvement and doing your best. It should not just

be about winning. We have devalued. People have been written off through

their career time and again. The best he has ever finished in his own

career was second. That adds a little bit of Extra incentive to

prove people wrong. 18 months ago he was declared, I will not use the

terminology used, but he was basically described as rubbish as a

manager because he got sacked from the grease job. Now he is on the

verge of lifting one of the biggest trophies you can win in domestic

football. We had this discussion last week. He is very used to being

at the top of the table and challenging for trophies. He may not

have got over the line. But that does not necessarily mean that is a

failure. We look at some other managers, we do not name names,

being seen as great escape politicss, we gave them a badge of

honour. Get somebody who consistently finishes second, we

give that as a badge of failure. I do not think I have ever considered

him a failure. He had four seasons at Chelsea before the money took

hold. He never had the chance to do with those resources what Mourinho

and others have done. In Italy you tend to go from club to club pretty

quickly. That is the way it works. There is a small pool of managers

who seem to swap clubs. It was the grease thing. The fact they lost to

the Faroe Islands. This nation that should not be losing to a small

nation. That was abject failure. He has been out of the English game for

so long. That is not very ambitious. What Amy was talking about is a

valid point. He is a nice man. He is engaging, he comes out with the

sound bites. I do not know if Mark can tell us more, but I found him

this season, thinking back to 2000 and 2004, I found there has been a

real steal and professionalism. I have not found in quirky and a

little bit different. I have found him absolutely rock solid. Even

yesterday I thought there would be a moment when he would crack up crying

and the did not. He was solidly professional. He has been like that

from day one. What has been impressive Izzie has not come in

with his ego and said, I am the new manager, this team was managed by

somebody else, I need to change the identity of this club and put my

stamp of approval on it. He has identified that this team needs a

little tweaking. It needs more coaching, maybe more direction. And

maybe putting his arm around a few players which he has done really

well throughout the season. It is no coincidence you see the emergence of

Mahrez and Vardy stepping up to another level. Danny Drinkwater, who

was on the verge of leaving last season. Danny Simpson, hours away

from leaving the club at the end of the season as well. These guys have

been hugely important to the side. And I do not think, under the

previous manager, that would have been the case. He has identified

certain aspects of the team that he could encourage and he could

improve. You imagine with great managers they have the combination

of when they need to put their arm around players and also give stern

words. Maybe he has not had reason to. Have you seen him lose his cool?

A couple of times. But he has not had to, really. It is a very unique

mixture of players. We have got players, and again it has been well

reported, so many of them have been told they are not good enough,

released from various clubs, a number of them left Manchester

United. They were told good enough at that level. All of a sudden you

have a combination of players who throughout their careers have been

put down. Jamie Vardy, what an unbelievable story that is. It has

all clicked. It is all gone together really well. A group of players

determined to prove their critics wrong. They are not openly speaking

about it. They are not throwing it down people's throats, they are

showing the world what they can do on the pitch. This season everything

has come together. It has carried on from last season. Do you think this

will be an easy group of players to bring somebody into over the summer?

Obviously there is an incredible bond between you as a group. I am

not saying that is Kiki, but you have left an unbelievable season. To

bring people into this, to go on next season, will take some clever

scouting and management. Arguably it is more difficult because you have

to bring the right player in. The manager has said quite regularly

that he is not going to bring in Superstars. That is one of the worst

things you could do, bring in a big-name player who thinks he is

above everybody else. Firstly, he will probably get knocked down and

really quickly, whether he likes it or not. Secondly, it would ruin the

dynamic of the team. The players that do come inwardly vetted really

intensely and they have to fit into the group that is there. Never mind

that, what happened at Jamie Vardy's house when the cameras stopped

rolling?! I cannot say, I was not there! There are stories I cannot

tell. Denny said Leicester are the perfect

example of how it takes more than talent and money to win trophies.

Jack says seeing Leicester win brought a smile to his face. There

was no reason why it should not happen again. We should have learned

our lesson from this season. To make -- we never will. We will continue

to make judgments in September. We don't know what is going to happen.

Why not? Has the mould been broken? Is there now a new set of frameworks

for other teams to come through. It gives every single club in every

single league hope that just because, supposedly, you not

supposed to be playing for top places, you can. You will not get

5000 to one on Middlesbrough next season. No. Does the fact it was

Leicester's title winning party in some ways absolve Everton of any

blame yesterday? Good question. Seasoned watchers of Everton might

say it has been coming this season. It is not a surprise to see a

performance like that. It probably was a difficult game for them. I was

more surprised by Lester's performance, if anything, there was

any excuse for Leicester to be not that energetic. The fact they went

with the intensity that they did, it might have unnerved Everton, or

perhaps they were not going to cope anyway. The manager was on, all

week, OK, there were celebrations of the Monday night, that was only

natural. Come Thursday, right, we need to finish this in the right

manner, we need to continue to build. It is all about building for

the rest of the season, showing people what champions are made of

and preparation for next season. He said, I want to see people's

reactions, the players' reactions, and it will be an indication phonic

season. He stamped his mark on. It's a massive afternoon in League 1.

Game is about to kick off. It's between Burton and Walsall

for the second automatic promotion place, and either Blackpool

or Fleetwood will be relegated. Doncaster, mathematically, are down.

They will need a heck of a goal swing if they are going to stay up.

Middlesbrough promoted, all over the back pages. Aitor Karanka saying he

wants to stay and have a go at the Premier League giants. He has had a

bizarre season. Did we ever get to the bottom of what happened?

Whatever it was, it worked! He was not there for a game and we thought

he was not going to be there again. That is a wonderful job, he has

done. I'm really pleased for the chairman, Steve Gibson, that is one

of the good guys that put his heart and soul, and a lot more besides,

into that Football Club. If anybody deserves to go up, it is him. That

was a critical moment, walking out, not taking control of the game, the

performance of the team when he came back, that reiterated how important

it was to get him back in. The next game, on the Friday night, they won

1-0. Even see the celebration of the players, the manager right in the

middle of it. Steve Gibson is an extremely experienced man in running

that club. He has been there for a long time. You know, my son is a

Middlesbrough fan. It's been a good week in your house! My son actually

said it was probably the best year of his life, the fact that Leicester

won the Premier League title, Middlesbrough being promoted, he is

playing as well. He has just been signed up for Fulham. What are the

lottery numbers? A bigger picture Middlesbrough, you can look at

Leicester, who failed in the play-off and went up the following

season, Middlesbrough did the same, Burnley going down, but keeping

their manager and coming back up, there is an argument, with a lot of

these clubs, stay calm and the following season, you might get it

right. Why are you sniggering? I will bore you to tears with tales of

York City, they were in the play-offs against Fleetwood. I was

very cagey and saying, I don't think they should go up, it is too soon.

They said, you go for it, it might never happen again. Just been

relegated from the Football League. Stability? That is an interesting

one. Has what has happened since Aitor Karanka's situation been

stability? If they take some calmness, once the celebrations are

over, prepare what is coming, is it resolved? Is there uncertainty?

Total trust between Steve Gibson, the manager, and the players? You

would hope so. He is very much a manner that will stick with his

manager, he believes he is still the right person for the job. The simple

fact he brought him back in, at a crucial period of the season, it

indicates to me that he has that trust and belief in the manager. I

think it was justified by the promotion. Has worked for him

before, in Europe, you can think about Steve McClaren, he was given

time and brought success and a trophy, almost? When Bryan Robson

was the manager, the first season, we got relegated and bounced back

next season. He stuck with him, through all of the bad times and all

of the good times as well. Family Premier League clubs have an English

owner these days? Well, Everton is half and half. He is in an unusual

position, Steve Gibson, coming back into the situation. The majority of

clubs are now... There is a lot of external influences and outside

money. He is one of the few parables of an old school fan. And how many

clubs are actually owned by somebody from the area, who identified

themselves with the community? Burnley fans will go, I know we were

promoted last week, we have won the title, you have two very well run

clubs. Burnley's balance sheet will be one of the healthiest in the

Premier League, I would have thought, given the profits they have

made and the money coming in? You go back to Bryan Robson, how impressive

was that? His stock is even higher, now he has brought them back. They

will be well-equipped to stay up this time, I think will. I think

he's done a tremendous job, great manager, all credit has to go to

Burnley's hierarchy for keeping them. I think they would have been

crazy to get rid of him. The hardest thing will be trying to keep hold of

him. There would have been interest from other clubs after the

relegation, but keeping hold of him has paid massive dividends. Team

news from White Hart Lane, Spurs against Southampton? Good afternoon

from a sun-kissed White Hart Lane. One change for Tottenham from the

wild west London game. Remarkably, no Spurs player was sent off, but

Dembele got a retrospective six-game ban. He is replaced by Ryan Mason.

That is the only change. Hugo Lloris Ingold, Walker, Alderweireld,

Vertonghen, Lamela, Harry Cain upfront. As for Southampton, they

are unchanged from that win against Manchester City. Forster Ingold,

Martina, Fonte, Van Dijk, Sadio Mane, Tadic, Shane Long upfront.

They are still going for that Europa League place. It will be interesting

to see how Tottenham react, what the atmosphere will be like inside White

Hart Lane. Tottenham still need to finish second to stay ahead of

Arsenal. That must be the motivation? I think the atmosphere

will be great, Spurs fans will see this as a week of celebration as

well, they have had a week to digest that, they will think, what a season

we have had, second place, it is a brilliant season for Tottenham.

There will be disappointment, but I think there will be it and get

behind them. Spurs lost their heads, sat under must shoulder the blame,

for all of his attributes, says one viewer. They are professionals, they

are meant to deal with this, but it was a hard atmosphere? I kind of

don't blame them, I kind of admire them. I thought the same, I loved

it. The passion for both teams, to create quite an electric atmosphere,

to give the amount they did, it was so riveting. You didn't want to

blink because you didn't know what crushing stuff you were going to

miss. Afterwards, Pochettino came in the press Conference and people were

asking about the player's behaviour, what he made of it all. You could

just see him thinking, first of all, it is a bit in the culture to think,

come on, if you have some of that going on, that is part of what makes

the game special. But I think he was partly proud of his players,

actually. Even though he would not say so, because that would not be

the right thing to do. To have that response, to take that kind of

disappointment and not accepted in the way that they did, that is

something that isn't such a bad thing, in the broader scheme of

things. It was almost a game of yesteryear, the attitude and

atmosphere. It is a double whammy. Spurs needed to win, they wanted to

keep the pressure on us. Going for the title, it is the first time they

have been so close to winning it. You can imagine, it is a derby, one

of the archrivals, apart from playing against Arsenal, Chelsea is

the next one. They don't like each other, we know that. It was always

going to boil over. I thought Mark Clattenburg dealt with the game

really well. You can go back and say maybe he should have had a red card

here or there, but the argument would be that it would ruin the

game. By allowing it to flow as much as he did, he gave out a lot of

yellow cards, Eric Dier possibly the key to stay on the pitch, but we got

a very entertaining game. If there had been people sent off, it would

not have been as entertaining. In the end, fantastic result! Celtic

have taken me lead in Scotland, nine clear with three games to play and

the goal difference is massive. It is Celtic's title already. Patrick

Roberts has scored for them. No goals as yet in League 1. We talk

about how interesting the transfer dealings of Leicester will be.

Finding a striker to take the weight of Harry Kane, but be prepared to

play second fiddle to him will be quite difficult? They had won, a

different sort of player, but I thought the way that Son performed

when he first started, I thought they had somebody like that. I don't

think it is just Spurs. I think you are looking at Arsenal, you're

looking at City, united and Liverpool. I think it will be a huge

summer, way busier than last summer. Do you? The players you're talking

about, the amount of money they need to spend, there are not that many

players out there to buy. You would hope for a busy summer. I think the

likes of Liverpool and Man City will have a big turnout. He will have his

first opportunity to stamp his personality of the team. The likes

of Spurs, you look at that team, maybe you're talking about another

striker, but I think that Son actually did well this season. The

fact he was played out of position a lot of times, and he didn't get a

lot of games, Harry Kane stayed fit. I don't think they need a lot. They

only need a couple of players. They were really unlucky, it is possibly

the most exciting Tottenham team I have seen since I have been in

England. It's a very exciting team for the future. I think we have

fallen into the trap of ignoring how the season has gone, they are going

to have to spend lots of money? I'm not sure Spurs will, I think the

others will. If you scout well, you don't have to? That should be

happening now. There might be chained at Manchester United, we

don't know, new managers at Chelsea, Manchester City, you think it will

spark everything off. Southampton will go sixth, above West Ham, if

they win. Until yesterday, they have a chance of getting into the

Champions League. What happened there? Southampton will not be happy

that we are just concentrating on Spurs. In the sense of following

recent successes, people were looking for them to push on. It's

quite hard to do. At one point, you thought things were quiet cooling

down. The way they have regrouped, and come on really strongly in the

second half of the season, it has been quite encouraging. You look at

how they have evolved in the last five or six years, that is

incredible. The kind of players they have had, players they have sold,

the money they have returned from those players moving on and the

players they have replaced them with, I think they have bought a

really well. It's another team that has shown that you don't need to

spend a lot of money, you can be very shrewd with the kind of players

you can find. It is easier to have a lot of money and just buy the

biggest name players, but it is finding the right team, finding a

group of players that will play as a team, well, Southampton do it,

Tottenham do it well. Leicester are the standout, in that regard,

because of the money spent and what it has returned. A goal at the DW

Stadium, Wigan have taken the lead against Barnsley. It doesn't really

affect anything from a Wigan point of view. It drops Barnsley out of

the play-off places, things stand. Scunthorpe will go above them, it is

goalless at Bramall Lane. Let's go to the bottom of the Premier League.

Sunderland came from behind to beat Chelsea 3-2. That takes them out of

the bottom three and gives them a bit of a buffer over Newcastle and

Norwich. Atmosphere is what makes players

play well. The atmosphere today in food the players to give their all.

The hairs were standing up on the backs of their necks. That allowed

them to perform well. If you do it on Wednesday, that will be it? Nun

that is it. Everton are better away from home this year. It will be

tough. The nerve ends will be jangling. Our destiny is in our

hands. Let's hope we can take it. Sam Allardyce after their win over

Chelsea. Ryan says, what sorcery has turned Younes Kaboul into a good

defender? I know they conceded two but he has made them more solid? He

has brought Kone into play alongside him. Sam said it was the best window

of transfers he has ever pulled off in his career. They have all been

absolutely superb. Yann Kermorgant is clearly not ready for the rigours

of the Premier League. -- Jan Kirchhoff. Khazri, fantastic

technique yesterday. The best shin you will ever see! The most

important. It was a spectacular goal. Younes Kaboul has risen to it.

What a signing Kone has been. Mark says as an Arsenal fan, if Arsenal

had Jermain Defoe, would they have won the league? You look at

Sunderland's energy, the desperation for a goals, they just wanted to

score. You did not see that with the same intensity at either Norwich or

Newcastle. The contrast was strong in that regard. What is amazing is

that Defoe went off to play in the MLS. You wondered if that was the

end of him. Certainly at the high-end of football. To come back

from, I will not say retirement, but you know what I am getting at? We

will leave it there, shall we?! The intensity is the interesting thing.

Sunderland do appear to have had a greater intensity than maybe the

other two teams. If you look to Leicester last season, Leicester

were always in games. Under Sam in recent weeks Sunderland have been in

games? Sunderland have probably learnt from the past couple of years

and brought in a tried and tested and very good manager in the Premier

League. They have not gone with someone who is unproven and a risk.

They have brought in somebody with a tremendous amount of experience and

is a really good manager, and a review good man manager. He has

always identified good players. Wherever he has been, he has always

had fantastic players. He has always been able to pull off a transfer

coup in the January window are in the off-season. It is no coincidence

that they play with that intensity. He is a very passionate man and a

good man manager. The guys are playing for him and for the clubs.

-- club. Particularly in the north-east, those fans want to see

fighting spirit. They want to see players must die on the pitch. Do

you think there is a reverse psychology in him saying that

Everton are better away from home, just to dampen expectations? They

may not have gone to the Stadium Of Light yesterday expecting Sunderland

to win, but given what has happened, given what happened to Newcastle, a

majority of fans will think on Wednesday night, come on, beat

Everton and keep us in the Premier League? There is huge expectation.

There always is and always has been. The way they are playing, the

momentum they have got, they are one game away from securing safety

against their biggest rival, if they win, they will send Newcastle down,

which are Sunderland fans will be every dream come true. It is an

incredible situation to be in. The way that Everton played against us

yesterday, I cannot see any the result other than Sunderland

winning. But Everton have got players, and that is frustrating for

their fans, they have got a group of talented players and for some reason

it is not sticking together. Do they look nervous? Do they look Aref? Do

they look as if they want to get the season over with? -- arrest. They

looked probably all of the above. It was difficult to pinpoint what was

not going right. There were so many aspects of their game and body

language of players, the style of football they were playing, they

were lacking in direction and commitment. Roberto Martinez said

after the game that they were not at the game. That was blatantly

obvious. I was really disappointed in one way that Everton did not make

more of a game of it. The scoreline was flattering. The scoreline could

have been 6-1, 7-1. If we had taken our chances. They were very

disappointing. Everton fans were leaving quite early. I felt a little

bit for Roberto Martinez in one way. Yesterday was not about them. They

had Sunderland away, that is not about them. And then they have got

Norwich in the final game. If it is all over, it is going to be very

depressing. It is not an easy end, if that is what is going to be for

him. On the easy end, that is fine, but Claudio Ranieri, even though

they are champions, even though they were out partying, has said, no we

lay down our marker for next season? But he's not going anywhere. The

manager has to make sure he stamped his authority and gets hold of the

players. The Everton players yesterday were almost thinking about

next season and maybe who is going to be there. The way they played was

really disjointed. I think there are a lot of players probably thinking,

what are we going to do next season, rather than pulling up their sleeves

and finish this season on a high. Blackpool outscored at Peterborough

in league one. -- have scored. It does not take them out of the bottom

four because Fleetwood are still goalless at home to Crewe. If Crewe

word to score, Fleetwood would drop into the bottom four and Blackpool

would be out. I get frustrated when I hear about Sam Allardyce. They

turn their nose up and think it is long ball, it is a industrial

football. You do not sign players like Khazri, who is obviously flair,

you do not sign players like chalk I have and JJ cocktail that is all you

are about. There is a lot more to him. That is fine. Let's move on to

the other incident that happened at the Stadium Of Light. John Terry

being sent off. Two yellow cards on his 703rd appearance for Chelsea.

Here is Guus Hiddink. What did you make of the red card? I think it was

a little bit over the top, the decision. They both went in with a

lot of intensity. I think it should have been a warning. It was over the

top. It would be a sad way to end for him? Yes. Because of the

regulation, there is a two game sanction. That is sad. How is he in

there? You can imagine. Nothing to add. Guus Hiddink. Celtic

have doubled their lead against Aberdeen. Fleetwood have scored at

home to Crewe. 1-0. That keeps Blackpool in the bottom four. Guus

Hiddink said it is sad. And for a one club man, 703 matches, if he is

not going to get a new contract at Chelsea, that is a sad way to enter

because Chelsea fans would want to say goodbye to him in the final

game. Every group of fans wants to say goodbye to a club legend at

home. Yes. And the idea that he is going to come out on a lap of honour

not having played, will not be how he wants it. If you think of his

career, there have been plenty of incidents and times where he has

been highly under scrutiny for something that has been going on in

his life or in how he has been playing. Those have always been the

times when everybody is looking at him, where he has produced

something. I have got so many memories of it being about John

Terry. Everybody is on Terry watch. That is when he scores a winner,

chest thumping, you see the classic idea of him as this iconic captain.

Leader, captain, legend. As they say at Stamford Bridge. They say he has

booked Stamford Bridge for a party. Jamie Vardy and the party has been

the big story of the season but John Terry party will not be as he hoped.

He will be absolutely devastated. I hope it is not his last opportunity.

It is well known what he has done for Chelsea, he has come through the

ranks, been at the club since he was a young kid. If you are Antonio

Conte would you keep him on? I would, yes. I was fortunate to play

for Chelsea and in the 18 months I was there, he was incredible. A

great professional. I cannot say a bad word against him. He is always

somebody you could talk to about anything. It is well documented what

he has done throughout his career, people go through ups and downs, I

think he has definitely learned from a lot of things that have happened

in the past. I hope this is not one of those instances where he is not

able to finish how we should be able to finish. The fact it was only a

few weeks ago that it sprung up again with England's centre-back

deficiencies, they were wondering if they could talk him out of it for

the Euros, there could be a couple of years in the Premier League.

Chelsea are obviously going down a different direction. It is a really

sad end. The one thing I would disagree with is that it was two

yellow cards. Fleetwood have doubled their lead against Crewe. Is he the

kind of person who, if they offered him a new deal, he would be able to

deal with not playing week in, week out? Would that be a problem? It is

always difficult when you have played all the time. When I first

went to Chelsea, and I stopped playing regularly, it is very

difficult to adjust. Even now I still find it difficult but you

learn to do with it, the older you get. You accept you are not going to

play as often. I think he will feel himself, and he has said it quite

often, he has got another year or two. It is about whether or not he

feels, firstly, the manager, whether he feels he wants him. He may not

play every week, but the manager could still need him and help

players coming through. If he is happy to do that, or if he wants to

go off and do his own thing. If John Terry is at the end of his contract

at the end of the season, does he packed up his bags and leave?

Preseason is some time away. If there is no offer of a contract,

would he cleared his locker, so to speak? I think it would be a long,

long clear out. He has such an affiliation with the club and the

people that the club. That is important. There are people who have

been there as long if not longer than him. He has a very strong bond

with a lot of people. That will take some time for him. There is a

certain sense, I suppose, of maybe being afraid of leaving something he

has done closely associated with. The one thing I have got a fear of

is that the fans will have that feeling of, if you were to sign for

another club, like they did with Frank Lampard... The club could look

at it and say, do we want that to happen again? Do we want that

tasting people's mouths, seen Frank Lampard play for another club other

than Chelsea? After such a distinguished career at Chelsea,

having accomplished so much, do you want to see someone like John Terry

play in another shirt? Frank Lampard went to play for Manchester City. We

have only left ourselves 40 seconds. Are you doing this game? Yes. It is

a bigger deal for Manchester City because Arsenal

a bigger deal for Manchester City City have to win

a bigger deal for Manchester City have to win their last two. It will

not easy. Arsenal still think they can catch Spurs to they have the

advantage of knowing one where the other. If Spurs when... We have

stuffed our time. There will be lots of discussion and preview about it

throughout the afternoon of discussion and preview about it

live. Highlights tonight on Match of the Day 2.

Thanks to Mark, Amy and Guy. Goodbye.