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Good afternoon, welcome to MotD2 on BBC Two, | :00:30. | :00:34. | |
Joining me today: Mark Lawrenson, John Hartson and the Sunday Times' | :00:35. | :00:40. | |
Use the hashtag #BBCFootball on social media or text | :00:41. | :00:47. | |
Coming up, Diego Costa and Chelsea are dumped out | :00:48. | :00:57. | |
Rafa Benitez takes charge at Newcastle. | :00:58. | :01:01. | |
Bournemouth edge closer to safety after a third win in two weeks. | :01:02. | :01:05. | |
And, are Manchester City now out of the title race? | :01:06. | :01:14. | |
Virtually all of the Sunday papers focusing on the Diego Costa | :01:15. | :01:20. | |
sending-off. We will talk about Rafa Benitez and | :01:21. | :01:43. | |
his release clause later that we have to start with the cup tie last | :01:44. | :01:46. | |
night. Everton are through to | :01:47. | :01:47. | |
the semifinals of the FA Cup for the first time since 2012 | :01:48. | :01:50. | |
after a 2-0 win over Chelsea. Well done, and lots of cat and | :01:51. | :01:58. | |
mouse, the game came to life in the last ten minutes but you are through | :01:59. | :02:03. | |
to the semifinals. It is a fantastic feeling, more than anything is the | :02:04. | :02:08. | |
atmosphere that was created. One of those that you will take every | :02:09. | :02:12. | |
single one of us to create a special memory. I think the goal from Roman | :02:13. | :02:19. | |
is one of the great goals we will see in the FA Cup. -- Romelu Lukaku. | :02:20. | :02:26. | |
Two team is very similar in terms of the way we are, technically. I | :02:27. | :02:32. | |
thought we looked a team that were hurting from the weekend and that | :02:33. | :02:36. | |
reaction and character and responsibility, wanting to get rid | :02:37. | :02:40. | |
of the pain we had against West Ham really made us perform to high | :02:41. | :02:46. | |
standards. From the first second to the last it was an incredible | :02:47. | :02:50. | |
performance, and we had many good performances this season. And | :02:51. | :02:57. | |
hopefully we want to celebrate with the fans and enjoy the atmosphere | :02:58. | :03:05. | |
with them. You ask my question, he is great to interview. Very | :03:06. | :03:13. | |
comprehensive answer. Let me ask, there are plenty of positives from | :03:14. | :03:19. | |
the Everton point of view. Absolutely, really good win, into | :03:20. | :03:24. | |
the semifinal. Good performance as Roberto said, perfect reaction from | :03:25. | :03:28. | |
losing late in the game to West Ham in the league. Lukaku, another two | :03:29. | :03:35. | |
goals, an unplayable when he is on song. All in all a fantastic fourth | :03:36. | :03:47. | |
formers. What they need, those performances where they are home | :03:48. | :03:50. | |
against the lesser teams. They have struggled at home as everybody | :03:51. | :03:55. | |
knows. The atmosphere came through on telly, it rocks at Goodison Park | :03:56. | :03:59. | |
and that will be one of the problems they will have to look after if they | :04:00. | :04:06. | |
move. Up until that three weeks ago, if you looked at Everton you go, | :04:07. | :04:12. | |
Wigan but with better place. Insofar as they cannot really defend which | :04:13. | :04:16. | |
is why they are conceding. They have some outstanding players. They | :04:17. | :04:19. | |
should be much further up the league. It was interesting you | :04:20. | :04:32. | |
mention the atmosphere. The fans have not really been behind them but | :04:33. | :04:35. | |
there was something about the performance yesterday, no matter how | :04:36. | :04:41. | |
much Martinez tries to change Everton it is when they go back to | :04:42. | :04:44. | |
their basic they can beat anyone. If they can carry that on to the cup | :04:45. | :04:53. | |
semifinal. When Joe Royle was manager, it was dogs of war. It was | :04:54. | :04:57. | |
a bit like that yesterday with some skill. It is also down to the | :04:58. | :05:02. | |
players to inspire other fans. It always amuses me when people within | :05:03. | :05:08. | |
football clubs suggest that the atmosphere created by fans affect | :05:09. | :05:14. | |
the players. Since he arrived Roberto Martinez has been trying to | :05:15. | :05:20. | |
put in a more patient build-up. That does not necessarily go down with | :05:21. | :05:22. | |
the public, they want higher tempo and the passion. They are not fans | :05:23. | :05:29. | |
that are easily impressed. You are not going to get them just behind | :05:30. | :05:34. | |
you automatically. When we look at Romelu Lukaku and we see some of the | :05:35. | :05:37. | |
goals he scored including last night, which was brilliant, is there | :05:38. | :05:43. | |
still, this is not actually criticising him, he is still young. | :05:44. | :05:47. | |
But for all his good performances are you still looking for more | :05:48. | :05:52. | |
consistency? I think you are always looking for more goals from your | :05:53. | :05:58. | |
strikers. Into the 20s now, his hold-up play and linkup play has | :05:59. | :06:03. | |
improved. The goal last week when Lennon played him in and he held it | :06:04. | :06:11. | |
up and followed the run. He is a beast, six foot four, great in the | :06:12. | :06:14. | |
air. Left foot, right foot yesterday. For me you are always | :06:15. | :06:20. | |
looking to improve, yes. When Everton bring in new players it is | :06:21. | :06:23. | |
getting to know the new players but no complaints. I think he has | :06:24. | :06:31. | |
improved. I do not want to sell the place for them but all of the big | :06:32. | :06:36. | |
teams are looking at him. Chelsea did not want him. He has scored 25 | :06:37. | :06:44. | |
goals this season, the first to do that for Everton since Gary Lineker. | :06:45. | :06:48. | |
But he does switch off and the crowd see that. That might be the next | :06:49. | :06:53. | |
step if he wants to play for a big club. He is unstoppable in spells. | :06:54. | :07:00. | |
His positives outweigh his negatives certainly. Do you think if Everton | :07:01. | :07:11. | |
win the cup that stops the doubt, the rumours that would swirl around | :07:12. | :07:15. | |
Roberto Martinez because of the new investment? It would not totally | :07:16. | :07:21. | |
satisfied the supporters but it would be enough, they are a bit | :07:22. | :07:26. | |
staffed of success. But the bottom line is next year has to be better. | :07:27. | :07:33. | |
Phil says his job was on the line last night and that lost Commons has | :07:34. | :07:38. | |
prevailed. Why has it taken so long to set the team up properly? -- at | :07:39. | :07:46. | |
last common-sense prevailed. This board Gareth Barry Ryan | :07:47. | :07:51. | |
-- this morning Gareth Barry has privately refuted the allegations he | :07:52. | :07:59. | |
was bitten by Diego Costa last night. Also a Chelsea statement last | :08:00. | :08:07. | |
night denied that. Mark? I do not think he bit him. If he is a | :08:08. | :08:11. | |
pantomime villain. It is virtually every week. It is nothing new. The | :08:12. | :08:17. | |
clever thing to play against and is not to be antagonised, just laugh at | :08:18. | :08:25. | |
him. Motioning to bite, that is what people are saying, rather than | :08:26. | :08:29. | |
actually biting. But motioning to is different to what we have seen | :08:30. | :08:34. | |
before? That is the only way he will get done, if the FA say he has | :08:35. | :08:38. | |
motioned to do it. He has not actually sank his teeth. Gareth | :08:39. | :08:45. | |
Barry does brilliant for him. You can see by his reaction, look at the | :08:46. | :08:52. | |
World Cup, Suarez and Chiellini, he almost went crazy because he felt | :08:53. | :08:59. | |
it. Gareth Barry hardly flinched. It is there, it does not look great but | :09:00. | :09:03. | |
I agree with Mark, he does not actually take the fight. The other | :09:04. | :09:07. | |
thing is the referee is right there with the linesman. The issue to | :09:08. | :09:11. | |
yellow cards, the referee clearly saw it not as violent conduct. | :09:12. | :09:16. | |
Whether there is even the facility to punish him. I do not think so. | :09:17. | :09:23. | |
Chelsea said Diego spoke to officials after the game and expect | :09:24. | :09:26. | |
results over his reaction that led to the red card but also very clear | :09:27. | :09:30. | |
he did not bite Gareth Barry. I am assuming that if he is saying he | :09:31. | :09:34. | |
didn't and if Gareth Barry is saying he was not bitten, then the two | :09:35. | :09:39. | |
people involved are singing from the same hymn sheet. I think the debate | :09:40. | :09:49. | |
just moves on, is Diego Costa worth the bother. The Chelsea as much as | :09:50. | :09:57. | |
anything. He has had this great run under Hiddink and he has done that | :09:58. | :10:01. | |
while behaving themselves. He is one of those players where the idea that | :10:02. | :10:05. | |
having an edge helps does not apply to him. All it does is get him off | :10:06. | :10:11. | |
the pitch and distraction. Nicholas says Costa is not worth the fleeting | :10:12. | :10:14. | |
moments, he is a disgrace to football. That incident masked the | :10:15. | :10:23. | |
Chelsea performance. Woeful defending, no heart, lack of | :10:24. | :10:32. | |
passion. And Danny says, I hope everybody Chelsea finally comes to | :10:33. | :10:34. | |
rumours that the manager was never the problem. -- finally response to | :10:35. | :10:42. | |
rumours. How do players go from winning the Premier League to | :10:43. | :10:48. | |
struggling the next year? It is always very difficult to win | :10:49. | :10:53. | |
consecutively but a loss of form, not from two or three, but apart | :10:54. | :10:59. | |
from Willian, he is the only one you could abstain. The loss of form has | :11:00. | :11:02. | |
been frightening from everybody else. | :11:03. | :11:03. | |
Leicester play Newcastle in Rafa Benitez's first game in charge. | :11:04. | :11:07. | |
He spoke for the first time yesterday as Newcastle manager. | :11:08. | :11:15. | |
Some people can see this like it especially, but it is normal, trying | :11:16. | :11:25. | |
to do my best, to stay in the Premier League. If there is a | :11:26. | :11:29. | |
compromise for the future it is because I'm convinced we will do | :11:30. | :11:33. | |
well. I want to stay here and start winning from Monday. I'm here | :11:34. | :11:37. | |
because I believe we can do it. We have enough quality. We need to give | :11:38. | :11:41. | |
confidence to the first to organise the team in the way we want to do | :11:42. | :11:49. | |
things. Again I would say the atmosphere, the fans, everybody in | :11:50. | :11:54. | |
the City is helping. I have some experience because I'm getting | :11:55. | :11:59. | |
older. At the end it is more or less the same. Obviously some people say | :12:00. | :12:07. | |
it is not the same. You have to approach the game, you have to | :12:08. | :12:12. | |
analyse things and be sure that everybody here everything. Then the | :12:13. | :12:16. | |
responsibility of someone that wants to win a trophy and does not want to | :12:17. | :12:20. | |
make mistakes is more or less responsible to have someone that | :12:21. | :12:22. | |
does not want to make a mistake because they can be relegated. I | :12:23. | :12:28. | |
think in terms of the approach it has to be similar. Rafa Benitez | :12:29. | :12:30. | |
talking to the press yesterday. Some of your messages straightaway. | :12:31. | :12:39. | |
Rafa is exactly what we needed, tactically brewing, born winner. | :12:40. | :12:42. | |
Will not take any rubbish. Barry says, not sure which Newcastle games | :12:43. | :12:48. | |
he has watched a convincing. -- tactically brilliant. Do you think | :12:49. | :12:58. | |
he can keep them up? No. I do not think so. He is good enough. | :12:59. | :13:05. | |
Tactically he is very shrewd. He is a top manager. They have an | :13:06. | :13:10. | |
appallingly unbalanced squad but I think he can sort it out in the | :13:11. | :13:16. | |
short term. He has to win against Sunderland. The fixtures are not the | :13:17. | :13:25. | |
worst. He has been there before. When you say he is tactically | :13:26. | :13:29. | |
competent, have they looked tactically incompetent this season? | :13:30. | :13:34. | |
Do you think tactics has been the problem? Well... It has been the | :13:35. | :13:39. | |
players first of all. But they have changed tactics. Watching McLaren it | :13:40. | :13:45. | |
was not sure who he really wanted to be playing. What you will get from | :13:46. | :13:51. | |
Rafa is something quite clear. And you look at the players they signed | :13:52. | :13:56. | |
in the window, certainly Jonjo Shelvey and Andros Townsend, they | :13:57. | :14:00. | |
are not crackers. You are in that position -- they are not scrappers. | :14:01. | :14:06. | |
You just have to get your team over the line. You are fighting for your | :14:07. | :14:10. | |
footballing life will stop I seriously think they do not have the | :14:11. | :14:14. | |
players. John Carver was on this programme and what he said about | :14:15. | :14:18. | |
Coloccini, and he managed him. He must have found that difficult to | :14:19. | :14:23. | |
say, Fabiola is not a leader, he just concentrates on his own game. | :14:24. | :14:28. | |
Ranks for that, captain. I think the next three games in particular. | :14:29. | :14:33. | |
Leicester on Monday, the big on next Sunday and then the big one again | :14:34. | :14:38. | |
against Norwich. You only have to finish above Norwich. Because I do | :14:39. | :14:45. | |
not think of to Swansea, 33 points, they will get another win, | :14:46. | :14:51. | |
Bournemouth have got one to 38. They are both fine. It is Sunderland, | :14:52. | :14:56. | |
Newcastle or Norwich. They have to finish above Sunderland as well. | :14:57. | :15:03. | |
That game in a couple of weeks away and Norwich is as big as any other | :15:04. | :15:04. | |
fixture. Rafa Benitez has been at Real | :15:05. | :15:17. | |
Madrid, has won the Champions League at Liverpool, he will not feel | :15:18. | :15:21. | |
frightened by those fixtures. You might look at the DVD of Newcastle | :15:22. | :15:25. | |
playing this season and feel very frightened(!) if we were constantly | :15:26. | :15:32. | |
told, Steve McClaren a great coach but not a great manager, does... Is | :15:33. | :15:38. | |
one of Rafa Benitez's qualities man management, because arguably. No, | :15:39. | :15:45. | |
no, no. He is not a man manager. Under Steve McClaren we were told | :15:46. | :15:49. | |
that the man management needs to be present. There is a lot of players | :15:50. | :16:03. | |
who will start regularly but are not good enough for the Premier League. | :16:04. | :16:09. | |
And are not bothered what happens to Newcastle United, they are on a | :16:10. | :16:13. | |
contract, they go to the championship, they probably do not | :16:14. | :16:19. | |
have a clause where they lose money. They have the balance wrong. They | :16:20. | :16:23. | |
had success selling foreign players, flipping them, making them better | :16:24. | :16:26. | |
players, buying them for low money, selling them for big-money, you | :16:27. | :16:30. | |
cannot do it for ever and it has come back to bite them. If you | :16:31. | :16:36. | |
cannot get by that crowd, the noise they create, they get behind their | :16:37. | :16:41. | |
players. Fantastic place to play football. St James' Park. It is a | :16:42. | :16:48. | |
shocking thing, isn't it, if you cannot get motivated, if you are not | :16:49. | :16:52. | |
bothered. Perhaps bothered is the wrong word... Just not putting it | :16:53. | :16:56. | |
in. They have got Steve McClaren the sack. The other thing, John is | :16:57. | :17:02. | |
right, great place to play, although want to do, the punters, they just | :17:03. | :17:09. | |
want to be entertained. Rob says, it is bizarre that Newcastle have | :17:10. | :17:13. | |
someone of his calibre, great opportunity, they could do a | :17:14. | :17:16. | |
Leicester City next season. He's not the only one saying that! If he | :17:17. | :17:21. | |
keeps them up, yes, it is a big if, but they have won the lottery with | :17:22. | :17:25. | |
Rafa Benitez if he keeps them up because he is a serious football | :17:26. | :17:28. | |
manager who can build a club, I do not think they have had that kind of | :17:29. | :17:33. | |
figure for a long time. If you keep someone up, it is loaves and fishes. | :17:34. | :17:42. | |
Yes! Biblical reference on a Sunday, well timed! LAUGHTER | :17:43. | :17:44. | |
Moving on to talking about Bournemouth, you could argue that | :17:45. | :17:47. | |
one of the people who has contributed to Steve McClaren | :17:48. | :17:50. | |
leaving this job is Charlie Daniels, who has weaved his way through the | :17:51. | :17:53. | |
Newcastle team to score Bournemouth's final goal at St | :17:54. | :17:56. | |
James' Park last week. He joins us now. That afternoon! I know that | :17:57. | :18:06. | |
footballers do not like to talk about opposition side that much, but | :18:07. | :18:11. | |
you had a game plan to get the crowd against the Newcastle side last | :18:12. | :18:15. | |
week, you knew that if you started quickly, the atmosphere would turn. | :18:16. | :18:19. | |
Were you surprised, being on the pitch, how much it turned? Our game | :18:20. | :18:24. | |
plan was to go there and dominate the ball, get the crowd frustrated, | :18:25. | :18:29. | |
and turn it hostile against their own team. I thought we done that. We | :18:30. | :18:36. | |
had a lot of pressure in the first 15, 20 minutes, after we scored, we | :18:37. | :18:44. | |
began to dominate. The crowd went against them, that is what you want | :18:45. | :18:48. | |
as an away team. Ten points out of the last 12, great run, what do you | :18:49. | :18:54. | |
put it down to? Hard work, you see us in training every day, working | :18:55. | :18:58. | |
hard. Every game is a different game plan, that we work towards. For that | :18:59. | :19:07. | |
week. A bit of self belief, as well, a bit of confidence goes a long way. | :19:08. | :19:11. | |
How long, for you, personally, do you think it took you to get self | :19:12. | :19:15. | |
belief, playing in the Premier League. I don't know, really, I | :19:16. | :19:22. | |
would like to think that from the first whistle, really. As soon as we | :19:23. | :19:25. | |
started, the first home game, against Aston Villa, I like to think | :19:26. | :19:30. | |
my performances have been good. That they have been up to scratch. From | :19:31. | :19:35. | |
every game, keep going forward, building the confidence up a little | :19:36. | :19:40. | |
more. You and cook and Frances, and Elphick, all of you were at | :19:41. | :19:45. | |
Bournemouth from League 1. -- Cook. I know that there had been injuries | :19:46. | :19:49. | |
this season, and the back four has been shuffled. -- Francis. But do | :19:50. | :19:54. | |
you think that stepping up into the championship and then into the | :19:55. | :19:56. | |
Premier League, do you think actually you have not found it as | :19:57. | :19:59. | |
big a step because you are confident as a unit? Yes, as I say, we have | :20:00. | :20:10. | |
had a settled back four. Adam Smith has come in, need has done very | :20:11. | :20:14. | |
well. Each of us know each other's roles, and we know where everyone | :20:15. | :20:18. | |
else will be. It does help in that way. And if we can keep consistent, | :20:19. | :20:25. | |
then it is going to be a great success. The club have spent, they | :20:26. | :20:29. | |
have been quite canny in the players that they have brought in. You have | :20:30. | :20:35. | |
to be, the higher you go, the more you need specialist players, game | :20:36. | :20:41. | |
changers. The gaffer has brought in some very good players, who have | :20:42. | :20:47. | |
scored some important goals. You will not tell me now, because it is | :20:48. | :20:52. | |
not mathematical, that you are safe. No, not yet, we are not safe yet. I | :20:53. | :20:57. | |
thought that would be the case! We wish you well for the rest of the | :20:58. | :21:01. | |
season. If it were not for Leicester, their manager would get | :21:02. | :21:08. | |
column inches, really. He has done a fantastic job. The great thing about | :21:09. | :21:12. | |
it, he has not changed the way they have played at all, it has really | :21:13. | :21:16. | |
been refreshing. You can throw a view in there who would get more | :21:17. | :21:22. | |
recognition, Watford... West Ham... From where they are from, the start | :21:23. | :21:26. | |
of the season we all thought Bournemouth would get relegated. Did | :21:27. | :21:31. | |
we not? Well, no, well, not everybody! Always a bit cautious | :21:32. | :21:37. | |
about the teams that come up. They have a threat in Josh King | :21:38. | :21:57. | |
laptop. They try to win games, it is great to see. -- Josh King up top. | :21:58. | :22:04. | |
Should be mentioned as well, they have spent nearly ?50 million on | :22:05. | :22:09. | |
players. There is a balance there. It is time to drop the plucky brave | :22:10. | :22:13. | |
named that the BBC gives them, it is as if they still have a lot of the | :22:14. | :22:17. | |
League 1 players, who have been with them, like Charlie, but they have | :22:18. | :22:20. | |
added to it with the ?50 million they have spent. They have the | :22:21. | :22:27. | |
combination absolutely right, a great advert for stability but also | :22:28. | :22:32. | |
adding a little bit, Max Gradel, Benik Afobe, Max Gradel has barely | :22:33. | :22:35. | |
been available, and Tyrone Mings, as well. Comparing them to Norwich, | :22:36. | :22:41. | |
Newcastle, Sunderland, even Swansea, they have changed a lot this season, | :22:42. | :22:46. | |
searching for answers. Eddie Howe, from the moment he got into the | :22:47. | :22:49. | |
Premier League, it has looked like he knew what he wanted, the team he | :22:50. | :22:53. | |
wanted them how he wanted to play, the strength they have, how they | :22:54. | :22:57. | |
would work them, and that that would be enough. This is the lowest number | :22:58. | :23:00. | |
of endless managers there has ever been in the English top flight, only | :23:01. | :23:07. | |
three left, what he is great. Tottenham... Tottenham put five past | :23:08. | :23:13. | |
them, and they just did the change, didn't make any difference, they did | :23:14. | :23:18. | |
not change. Energy and pressing, it is what Leicester and Spurs have | :23:19. | :23:22. | |
done, it is what has worked in the Premier League this season. Why is | :23:23. | :23:26. | |
it all right for Bournemouth not to change when they 25s but Roberto | :23:27. | :23:31. | |
Martinez gets hammered for not changing and doing the same thing. | :23:32. | :23:36. | |
He may not have the squad to change Bournemouth, he has got to keep | :23:37. | :23:44. | |
going with what he has got. -- when they concede two fives. | :23:45. | :23:59. | |
Another one of those season defining weeks for Arsenal, you could argue | :24:00. | :24:04. | |
that Arsene Wenger has gone with the strongest possible line-up, apart | :24:05. | :24:09. | |
maybe from Calum Chambers at right back in place of Hector Bellerin, | :24:10. | :24:13. | |
three changes from the 4-0 victory at Hull in the replay on Tuesday | :24:14. | :24:17. | |
that got them here. Flamini is out, Francisco Klang, Nin, and mesoderm | :24:18. | :24:26. | |
is ill and Sanchez come in for the walk to. -- Theo Walcott. -- Mathieu | :24:27. | :24:36. | |
Flamini is out, Francisco Klang comes in. Craig Cathcart is fit. And | :24:37. | :24:50. | |
to changes in midfield. Baroni comes in. 8325 Watford fans here to cheer | :24:51. | :25:01. | |
them on. -- Francis Coquelin. That team selection, strong as they | :25:02. | :25:08. | |
possibly can be, they do play Barcelona on Wednesday night, do you | :25:09. | :25:13. | |
think they think that one has gone? Escom and Barcelona played | :25:14. | :25:15. | |
yesterday, they have already got a game. That has well and truly gone. | :25:16. | :25:22. | |
And it is the only competition he can win, for me. They will not win | :25:23. | :25:27. | |
the league. Those fine is five words which follow Arsenal around, they | :25:28. | :25:32. | |
always let you down, it is much and it has happened. -- those famous | :25:33. | :25:40. | |
five words. -- it is March and it has happened. John Hartson, | :25:41. | :25:47. | |
they have had a players-only meeting after their recent run of poor form. | :25:48. | :25:51. | |
He said, "We know as a unit it has been tough | :25:52. | :25:54. | |
and we all had a good chat amongst us behind closed doors. | :25:55. | :25:57. | |
It was a meeting to express how everyone is feeling and it worked." | :25:58. | :26:00. | |
only the results are going to say whether it was worth it or not. The | :26:01. | :26:04. | |
players getting together to sort it out without the manager, what do you | :26:05. | :26:06. | |
think? Depends upon the meeting. If the players recognise they are not | :26:07. | :26:09. | |
doing as well as they can... They have put in the effort but I think | :26:10. | :26:12. | |
that is not a bad thing, the players can get together. It is today, the | :26:13. | :26:15. | |
performance, the reaction, that everybody will judge them on. I | :26:16. | :26:18. | |
would rather they were steaming into each other at half-time. That is a | :26:19. | :26:23. | |
major problem now. I know it is a little bit old school, but it is a | :26:24. | :26:28. | |
major problem, you have got to sort, somebody in the dressing room, John | :26:29. | :26:31. | |
Terry has done it at Chelsea, sort out the dressing room, sort out | :26:32. | :26:36. | |
people. Sometimes you have got to tell them the future and it is not | :26:37. | :26:39. | |
particularly good, it is the way of the world. It is a little bit late, | :26:40. | :26:44. | |
the reaction to adversity by the Arsenal is always too late, they | :26:45. | :26:47. | |
came off against Spurs the other day, saying they had fantastic | :26:48. | :26:54. | |
character, 2-2, but seeing out the game at 1-0, that would have been | :26:55. | :26:59. | |
character. Winning the reactor -- winning the FA Cup will be reacting | :27:00. | :27:03. | |
too late to later the season. No side has won the cup three times in | :27:04. | :27:08. | |
a row for 130 years. It would be historic but this season it is not | :27:09. | :27:11. | |
good enough, last couple of seasons it showed progress but this is the | :27:12. | :27:14. | |
season that progress was meant to be winning the title. Their best chance | :27:15. | :27:18. | |
of winning the league was this season. Possibly, but looking at the | :27:19. | :27:26. | |
season that Leicester City have had, they have come from nowhere. In | :27:27. | :27:30. | |
terms of Manchester United having a poor season, Chelsea, Liverpool... | :27:31. | :27:35. | |
Manchester City... I thought that Manchester City were a shoo-in for | :27:36. | :27:42. | |
the title. Eight away goals in the Premier League in the last 12 games. | :27:43. | :27:46. | |
They have only won two of the last ten away games! I have thrown away | :27:47. | :27:51. | |
the FA Cup. They are going to get through in the Champions League, | :27:52. | :27:54. | |
they will beat Dynamo Kyiv, that puts them in the quarterfinal, but | :27:55. | :27:59. | |
in terms of the league, especially after the first five or six games | :28:00. | :28:02. | |
where they were absolutely untouchable, to have dropped in | :28:03. | :28:07. | |
terms of their standards and their performances, so much in recent | :28:08. | :28:10. | |
weeks, they have lost the big games at home, they lost against Leicester | :28:11. | :28:16. | |
and Spurs. I think there supporters will really be frustrated. One more | :28:17. | :28:21. | |
on the Arsenal and Watford game, before going back to Manchester | :28:22. | :28:24. | |
City, the last few games I have watched, Watford have been very | :28:25. | :28:26. | |
difficult for the opposition to break down, whether that is | :28:27. | :28:31. | |
Manchester United, at Old Trafford, Leicester City, at vicarage Road. | :28:32. | :28:35. | |
They seem to have changed it with Etienne Capoue out wide, that has | :28:36. | :28:39. | |
strengthened them even more. I think that they have been very good in | :28:40. | :28:43. | |
those games, Troy Deeney has been excellent but body in a gala has | :28:44. | :28:47. | |
been the problem, they have lost 1-0 twice, in games where they have had | :28:48. | :28:50. | |
the better, they have that foundation. If DNA gala can begin | :28:51. | :28:55. | |
scoring again, then they have had the chances. But if they score first | :28:56. | :28:59. | |
against Arsenal today, and they have a real problem breaking them down. | :29:00. | :29:06. | |
-- Odion Ighalo. Manchester City were at Norwich yesterday, finished | :29:07. | :29:12. | |
goalless, here is Joe Hart. Really frustrating afternoon for Manchester | :29:13. | :29:16. | |
City. Yes, I cannot see us getting too much air time tonight from that | :29:17. | :29:21. | |
game. It was an OK performance, we did not give any chances but we did | :29:22. | :29:28. | |
not create many. You have got to give Norwich a lot of credit, made | :29:29. | :29:32. | |
it difficult all over the pitch. Good for them but I am not bothered | :29:33. | :29:36. | |
about Norwich City, it is about our own performance. It is a good | :29:37. | :29:39. | |
performance and result for them, but it is no good for us. Do you feel it | :29:40. | :29:46. | |
has made it more difficult for you, it is still achievable | :29:47. | :29:49. | |
mathematically, but it is a big gap. We will have to rely upon a crazy | :29:50. | :29:53. | |
season getting even more crazy. But we are still in it and we will never | :29:54. | :29:57. | |
give up. Jonathan, everybody is talking about this title challenge, | :29:58. | :30:06. | |
should they be looking over their shoulder? They have played the same | :30:07. | :30:09. | |
number of games as West Ham and Manchester United, two clear of West | :30:10. | :30:13. | |
Ham, four clear of Manchester United. West Ham in particular, Alex | :30:14. | :30:21. | |
Ferguson said this week, he thinks West Ham United could pip them to | :30:22. | :30:25. | |
the top four. It is as if they have just decided to coast, and | :30:26. | :30:28. | |
concentrate on the Champions League, which is a dangerous game for them. | :30:29. | :30:33. | |
They are not good enough, particularly away from home, to rely | :30:34. | :30:39. | |
upon that. Liverpool will be only four points behind if they win their | :30:40. | :30:43. | |
game in hand. Member when they won at Chelsea and Manchester City and | :30:44. | :30:46. | |
people thought they were going to win the league! A little bit of | :30:47. | :30:48. | |
caution! -- remember when. has been that type of season where I | :30:49. | :30:59. | |
would not this rise if Arsenal or Manchester City dropped out, it has | :31:00. | :31:03. | |
been that kind of season. And West Ham, the run they are on, West Ham | :31:04. | :31:15. | |
have nine out of the last ten. Who is it going to be? I Spurs have | :31:16. | :31:22. | |
enough points. I think Spurs will be fine. They have a chance of winning | :31:23. | :31:28. | |
it. Why are City so inconsistent? Good question. The key players are | :31:29. | :31:34. | |
the ones they have had for five years, Yaya Toure still wins games | :31:35. | :31:39. | |
for them even though there is a lot of things he does not do for any | :31:40. | :31:46. | |
more. They have lacked the quality of work to make up for those older | :31:47. | :31:51. | |
players. They are relying on moments of magic from him and Silva. | :31:52. | :32:00. | |
Fernandinho Jesus Navas. Raheem Sterling will never understand | :32:01. | :32:05. | |
again, loads of ability. Can that understanding be coached? A little | :32:06. | :32:11. | |
bit. I don't think he will ever understand it. That's what I'm | :32:12. | :32:18. | |
saying, can he be coached? I do not think he realises how he does what | :32:19. | :32:23. | |
he does, it is purely instinctive. Wilfried Bony has not done it, | :32:24. | :32:30. | |
nowhere near. Too much reliance on Aguero to get the goals. He is a | :32:31. | :32:36. | |
world-class striker. Lacklustre in front of goal, when they get in and | :32:37. | :32:42. | |
around the box. Fantastic on the eye but just the final pass that will | :32:43. | :32:48. | |
create has not been there. It will be a tough job for Guardiola. | :32:49. | :32:55. | |
Apparently City are just playing like they are fed up with | :32:56. | :33:01. | |
Pellegrini. Pellegrini has failed, spending so much money and | :33:02. | :33:06. | |
struggling against Norwich. Daniel says they need to focus on making | :33:07. | :33:11. | |
the top four. Waiting for the quickest ever resignation in | :33:12. | :33:16. | |
history. If the big players, Yaya Toure in particular, David Silva got | :33:17. | :33:21. | |
some stick after yesterday. If they do not produce then they get the | :33:22. | :33:25. | |
stick as opposed to maybe the players on the periphery who do not | :33:26. | :33:33. | |
deliver at all. Players like Samir Nasri who is nowhere near any more | :33:34. | :33:39. | |
but still earning wages. Really poor recruitment policy in the last five | :33:40. | :33:43. | |
years. One of the things Guardiola is to give them is a style of play | :33:44. | :33:48. | |
and identity. For all of the money they spent they never came up with | :33:49. | :33:53. | |
that. Kevin De Bruyne is a big miss. It is football, you have to manage | :33:54. | :33:56. | |
those injuries. They should be top of the league. With Norwich holding | :33:57. | :34:02. | |
out, you still do not give them any hope? They have got hope, yes. I | :34:03. | :34:10. | |
think Sunderland have got a bit of fight. It is a battle. This will be | :34:11. | :34:18. | |
two from those three. When was the last time Norwich on in the league. | :34:19. | :34:24. | |
They were good yesterday. Solid, but goals are the problem again. Goals | :34:25. | :34:27. | |
have been the problem since they came into the Premier League. The | :34:28. | :34:36. | |
4pm game in the FA Cup is Manchester United against West Ham. You have | :34:37. | :34:43. | |
spoken to Dimitri Payet this week. He talked about Ronaldinho, the | :34:44. | :34:49. | |
scenes himself as a player who goes and puts on a show and tries to | :34:50. | :34:54. | |
entertain. He has been one of the finds of the Premier League the | :34:55. | :34:59. | |
season. Along with Mahrez. He was relishing the thought of going to | :35:00. | :35:01. | |
Old Trafford because he missed out in the league when he was injured. | :35:02. | :35:06. | |
He does not fear a stadium like that as a reason to be scared. If you | :35:07. | :35:11. | |
look at West Ham they can fight as well as play football. They are big | :35:12. | :35:17. | |
and strong and athletic. They love to tackle. Very much like their | :35:18. | :35:26. | |
manager in many ways. But Payet, one of the top five in the country this | :35:27. | :35:30. | |
season, certainly. At Blackburn the other week, all right, his second | :35:31. | :35:35. | |
goal was against ten men but even so his free kick, he is one of those | :35:36. | :35:40. | |
players who gets you off your seat. What has he done now? He is that | :35:41. | :35:45. | |
good. They should be relishing this. Of course they should. They are | :35:46. | :35:49. | |
having a fantastic time. In great form. I do not think they would be | :35:50. | :35:57. | |
favourites today at Old Trafford. Are you just going on history for | :35:58. | :36:03. | |
that? I probably am, Mark. Won't they be short of a centre-back. | :36:04. | :36:10. | |
Winston Reid is 50 slash 50. The likes of Noble, Obiang, Antonio. -- | :36:11. | :36:16. | |
50-50. They do work in midfield for Payet to go and get the ball where | :36:17. | :36:20. | |
he likes to get it and go for. You take his defence for responsible it | :36:21. | :36:25. | |
is out. Great, why burden him? Exactly. He has been outstanding. | :36:26. | :36:32. | |
Everybody has looked at Antonio. And everybody went, I do not think he | :36:33. | :36:36. | |
can do it. He has a goal in him as well. In big games. Stan Collymore | :36:37. | :36:43. | |
has written today, not on United player would make it into the Bilic | :36:44. | :36:52. | |
team. Goalkeeper? But look at the West Ham team and it is full of the | :36:53. | :36:56. | |
type of clothes that Manchester United used to be about. Lanzini is | :36:57. | :37:02. | |
the Manchester United typo, Payet. A loss of identity from a United. I do | :37:03. | :37:08. | |
not think West Ham would trade. As well as the flair players as you say | :37:09. | :37:12. | |
they have those players who can fight and put their foot in as well | :37:13. | :37:17. | |
which Manchester United always had. In this phase of the season where | :37:18. | :37:20. | |
everybody is talking about leadership, you spoke about the | :37:21. | :37:24. | |
dressing room at half-time, you could throw the same accusation and | :37:25. | :37:30. | |
the Manchester United dressing room. As has been thrown at Arsenal and | :37:31. | :37:36. | |
various other clubs. Absolutely. But don't get me started on Manchester | :37:37. | :37:39. | |
United. It is the wrong man in the wrong place at the wrong time. | :37:40. | :37:43. | |
Football has moved on massively. He is yesterday's man. I do not mean | :37:44. | :37:50. | |
he's going to lose his job, he has always been yesterday's man. | :37:51. | :37:54. | |
Managing from a different era. The captain 's armband has gone from | :37:55. | :37:59. | |
small into character Mata. Are any of them leaders? -- Smalling, | :38:00. | :38:06. | |
Carrick, Mata. I do not know them personally. You look at Martial, | :38:07. | :38:11. | |
Ratchford, Depay, they are not leaders. Chris Smalling, England | :38:12. | :38:17. | |
centre-half. He has had a good season. I thought the emergence of | :38:18. | :38:23. | |
the kids was a last chance for van Gaal. They offered him maybe an | :38:24. | :38:27. | |
unlikely get out of that look at what has happened at Ratchford -- to | :38:28. | :38:34. | |
Ratchford already. His head looked full of instructions at Anfield on | :38:35. | :38:38. | |
Thursday. He already looks short of confidence. It is a fact that | :38:39. | :38:44. | |
players seem to get worse under van Gaal rather than better is one of | :38:45. | :38:47. | |
the reason is you might think it does not work. Could he go this week | :38:48. | :38:56. | |
with West Ham, Liverpool, Manchester City. If he loses all of them, | :38:57. | :39:03. | |
possibly. I do not see him. Honestly I think he is yesterday's man. Why | :39:04. | :39:09. | |
would they get rid of him this week, what is the point? Because the | :39:10. | :39:12. | |
atmosphere could become so poisonous depending on how they go. If they | :39:13. | :39:20. | |
lose, they won't get in the top four, out of the cup. I would think, | :39:21. | :39:28. | |
just give him until the end of the season. Just drifting. I would put | :39:29. | :39:34. | |
Ryan Giggs in there. Laurel Browne got a mention this week. -- Laurent | :39:35. | :39:52. | |
Blanc. Gary says it is a fantastic time to the West Ham supporter on | :39:53. | :39:58. | |
text. A good time to be going north? Good luck with that one. You would | :39:59. | :40:04. | |
be there by Tuesday. Every Silva lining has a cloud at the moment. | :40:05. | :40:08. | |
Quickly, let's touch on the Championship. | :40:09. | :40:09. | |
Strange situation at Middlesbrough, assistant Steve Agnew will take | :40:10. | :40:14. | |
charge of their match against Charlton this afternoon. | :40:15. | :40:16. | |
It's being reported that manager Aitor Karanka | :40:17. | :40:18. | |
has had a big falling out with his players | :40:19. | :40:20. | |
Could they sort this out? It sounds bad. He has missed training for four | :40:21. | :40:29. | |
days and this is the crucial time in the season. Of situation. I question | :40:30. | :40:34. | |
Karanka because whatever his problems are this is where he needs | :40:35. | :40:38. | |
to fight. If not for the club then for himself. It is very odd to | :40:39. | :40:45. | |
desert it. The whole thing is bizarre. When you look at the bottom | :40:46. | :40:49. | |
of the Premier League and you talk about the pressure of staying in | :40:50. | :40:52. | |
maybe we are seeing in recent months the same at the top of the | :40:53. | :40:57. | |
Championship. They are not out of it. That is why it is bizarre. | :40:58. | :41:02. | |
Burnley and Hull, they have their managers from last season and | :41:03. | :41:06. | |
everything is stable. Derby and Middlesbrough trying to get into the | :41:07. | :41:10. | |
promised land. Middlesbrough bottled it in the final last year. They did | :41:11. | :41:15. | |
not turn up. They have invested a lot in the squad. They bought Jordan | :41:16. | :41:20. | |
Rhodes. There is an expectoration likely for them to go up which is | :41:21. | :41:30. | |
why deserting at this button and there is an expectation. It'll be | :41:31. | :41:31. | |
interesting to see his reasons. Second in the Championship. What | :41:32. | :41:32. | |
morale must be like in the dressing room. For him to walk out of it. | :41:33. | :41:37. | |
Obviously a problem with the players. It will be interesting to | :41:38. | :41:41. | |
actually see what comes out. Looking at it a different way, they will be | :41:42. | :41:46. | |
on massive money if they get promotion. No one is going to toss | :41:47. | :41:52. | |
it away, you would think. We're not talking about a soap opera club, | :41:53. | :41:56. | |
this is Middlesbrough. A good owner, the dressing room that you do not | :41:57. | :41:58. | |
hear tales from. Did Spurs need to rest so many | :41:59. | :42:00. | |
players against Borussia Dortmund with only Villa | :42:01. | :42:05. | |
to worry about this weekend? I was surprised. Not really. I think | :42:06. | :42:21. | |
the Premier League is a priority. It is within their grasp to catch | :42:22. | :42:27. | |
Leicester. Even though Leicester are going ready well. I think the | :42:28. | :42:32. | |
priority is the Premier League. Rest eight few players. Borussia Dortmund | :42:33. | :42:35. | |
is a tough game anyway away from home. They need a big performance | :42:36. | :42:42. | |
after the North London derby as well? It was a sporting decision, | :42:43. | :42:47. | |
better chance of getting in the Champions League via the Premier | :42:48. | :42:51. | |
League rather than going and winning the Rafa league. But they do need a | :42:52. | :42:56. | |
performance. -- winning the Europa League. It is they work so hard | :42:57. | :43:04. | |
together. Villa did the same. Pochettino has always taken it | :43:05. | :43:09. | |
seriously which is perhaps why it surprised people. I think | :43:10. | :43:14. | |
essentially we know they need back-up for Harry Kane and Delhi | :43:15. | :43:18. | |
Alli was injured. That is who he had to rest. -- Dele Alli. The defeat | :43:19. | :43:28. | |
even with a second string, that is interesting. With the guys they have | :43:29. | :43:34. | |
rested coming back today, they will be fresh. You have to go with Spurs. | :43:35. | :43:40. | |
Villa only started playing when they were 4-0 down last week. You know | :43:41. | :43:45. | |
what, forget it. Thank you very much everybody. | :43:46. | :43:46. | |
Commentary of both FA Cup games on 5 Live today. | :43:47. | :43:49. | |
Arsenal at Watford in about half an hour, | :43:50. | :43:51. | |
Manchester United against West Ham at 4pm. | :43:52. | :43:52. | |
I'll be back tonight on BBC One for Match | :43:53. | :43:55. | |
of the Day 2 for both of today's Premier League games. | :43:56. | :43:58. |