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Good afternoon and welcome to Match Of The Day 2 Extra on BBC Two, Radio | :00:30. | :00:35. | |
5 Live and the BBC Sport website. With me for the next 45 minutes, | :00:36. | :00:40. | |
Trevor Sinclair, Dean Saunders and journalist Alyson Rudd. As ever, you | :00:41. | :00:45. | |
can get involved in the programme using the hashtag #bbcfootball by | :00:46. | :00:54. | |
texting 85058. Coming up on the show today: Manchester City pay the | :00:55. | :00:56. | |
penalty, missing twice from the spot to draw with Everton. They are now | :00:57. | :01:02. | |
without a win in three games in all competitions. Theo Walcott scores | :01:03. | :01:06. | |
twice as Arsenal win a sixth game in a row. Bournemouth put six past Hull | :01:07. | :01:12. | |
in Mike Phelan's first match as permanent manager. And we look ahead | :01:13. | :01:16. | |
to a huge game tomorrow night with Liverpool playing Manchester United. | :01:17. | :01:21. | |
A number of the back pages focus on Liverpool versus Manchester United. | :01:22. | :01:23. | |
The Sunday Mirror's headline is Mission Impossible, saying Jose | :01:24. | :01:30. | |
Mourinho fears that Mancunian referee Anthony Taylor has an | :01:31. | :01:32. | |
impossible job at Anfield tomorrow night. The Mail on Sunday leads with | :01:33. | :01:37. | |
the same story and its headline is its ref justice. The Sunday Times | :01:38. | :01:41. | |
has a big picture of Romelu Lukaku and the headline Spot Of Bother. | :01:42. | :01:46. | |
That is where we start, because Manchester City are without a win in | :01:47. | :01:50. | |
three games. They of course had to the Nou Camp on Wednesday night to | :01:51. | :01:54. | |
face Barcelona. Trevor Sinclair, your former club. For somebody like | :01:55. | :02:00. | |
Pep Guardiola, is this the start of a bit of a crisis, three matches | :02:01. | :02:04. | |
without a win? They have not got an easy game coming up, that has got to | :02:05. | :02:10. | |
be said. I think it is a blip. The players are still focused and buying | :02:11. | :02:13. | |
into his philosophy. They have had some tough games. Celtic Park was a | :02:14. | :02:19. | |
difficult game, which started this run, and they got a draw. Very | :02:20. | :02:25. | |
entertaining for the neutrals. And then going to White Hart Lane is | :02:26. | :02:29. | |
never going to be easy. They are definitely contenders this season. | :02:30. | :02:34. | |
It was a difficult game. They started that game well, but Spurs | :02:35. | :02:39. | |
deserved the win. And then the game at the Etihad yesterday, Ronald | :02:40. | :02:43. | |
Koeman has completely revitalised them. If you get ten or 11 men | :02:44. | :02:51. | |
behind the ball and they are disciplined and they make good | :02:52. | :02:54. | |
decisions and they are brave when they get the ball back, it is | :02:55. | :02:57. | |
difficult to break down. Manchester City need to get used to that, | :02:58. | :03:02. | |
because a lot of teams are going to go to the Etihad and take on that | :03:03. | :03:06. | |
style of play. They didn't quite get the breakthrough when they thought | :03:07. | :03:10. | |
they could have. It looks a bit like they have run out of ideas. | :03:11. | :03:15. | |
Mentally, they should have been stronger, but they showed great | :03:16. | :03:17. | |
resilience to get back in the game after going behind to Lukaku's | :03:18. | :03:25. | |
opener. Trevor says mentally, they could have been stronger. When you | :03:26. | :03:30. | |
are on a good run and you hit a blip, do you lose confidence | :03:31. | :03:35. | |
quicker? And when you have a game against a team like Barcelona, will | :03:36. | :03:40. | |
they go in low on confidence? I don't think so. They missed two | :03:41. | :03:44. | |
penalties yesterday. They should have won the game. Ashley Williams | :03:45. | :03:49. | |
has made the difference to Everton. He made 13 clearances yesterday. At | :03:50. | :03:55. | |
times, they were battering Everton. They are still getting used to the | :03:56. | :04:02. | |
system. He changes during the game. Yesterday, there were two wingers. | :04:03. | :04:12. | |
And he has got the centre-backs. It is all-out attack. Yesterday, they | :04:13. | :04:20. | |
were unlucky. As Trevor said, Tottenham the week before, who are | :04:21. | :04:24. | |
really good team. They would not surprise me if they beat Barcelona | :04:25. | :04:28. | |
midweek. That would certainly get them back on track. Alyson, when you | :04:29. | :04:33. | |
have seen Manchester City this season and the Guardiola, even | :04:34. | :04:37. | |
though these results have been a bit sticky, do you see constant | :04:38. | :04:39. | |
improvement under him, working towards this style he likes to bring | :04:40. | :04:43. | |
in? He would be very cross if I were to say no, because that has been his | :04:44. | :04:48. | |
mantra. I was at his press Conference on Friday and every time | :04:49. | :04:52. | |
I have heard him speak, he has said it is about making sure even the | :04:53. | :04:56. | |
star players like Guerra, he can be much better. He says it over and | :04:57. | :05:03. | |
over again. You talked about the wingbacks. He will put someone who | :05:04. | :05:08. | |
is out on the wing, under pressure, and said, stop crossing like that. | :05:09. | :05:15. | |
And it might seem to be undermining him, but he says it to everybody. | :05:16. | :05:23. | |
Even if the journalists say it was a ten out of ten performance, he will | :05:24. | :05:26. | |
say they can be better. So the answer to your question is yes, they | :05:27. | :05:31. | |
are improving. But if you take a group of players, it will affect | :05:32. | :05:36. | |
them in different ways. Some of them will find it difficult to | :05:37. | :05:39. | |
acclimatise to, the sense that they are not gods on earth and that they | :05:40. | :05:45. | |
need to improve. So for the next few months, I think you will see | :05:46. | :05:49. | |
creaking as the layers get used to such a demanding manager. As you | :05:50. | :05:55. | |
say, players will react differently to being expected to do better. That | :05:56. | :05:58. | |
is where the management will come into play and he has that good | :05:59. | :06:06. | |
relationship with individuals. He also puts pressure on himself to | :06:07. | :06:09. | |
improve, so I feel that if you do that as a leader with a group of | :06:10. | :06:16. | |
men, and then you question others, that is normal. Because he questions | :06:17. | :06:21. | |
himself, the lads will feel it is fair. He was coached by Johan | :06:22. | :06:26. | |
Cruyff, and he said to Pep Guardiola, you're not good enough, | :06:27. | :06:30. | |
you could be better. And he said, if I hadn't been told that, I wouldn't | :06:31. | :06:35. | |
be any good. So if he turns to a player and says, this is why I am | :06:36. | :06:39. | |
telling you this, if you have any sense, you will accept that. | :06:40. | :06:46. | |
Guardiola played with the back three yesterday. He even put Vincent | :06:47. | :06:52. | |
Kompany upfront for a. While Do you think he's trying to find the best | :06:53. | :06:56. | |
ways to win games in this Premier League, which is a new environment | :06:57. | :07:02. | |
for him? Little changes like he did yesterday make a whole difference to | :07:03. | :07:07. | |
the Outlook on the team. If you put zapper letter and Kolarov at | :07:08. | :07:12. | |
wingback, that is getting a result away from home. If you swap the two | :07:13. | :07:18. | |
wingbacks with wingers, they are not going to run back like defenders and | :07:19. | :07:22. | |
that becomes all-out attack, especially if you have ballplaying | :07:23. | :07:27. | |
centre-backs, which he has. He had Kesey and stones yesterday. When he | :07:28. | :07:35. | |
has got the fire power he has upfront like he has with Aguero, | :07:36. | :07:40. | |
they will be hard to stop. So they will get stopped in their tracks now | :07:41. | :07:43. | |
and again or they will have bad luck, but they will out power teams. | :07:44. | :07:51. | |
Be a lot has been made of the change in formation. I don't think the | :07:52. | :07:55. | |
squad are worried about it. This is normal for pep. He looks at the | :07:56. | :07:59. | |
opposition, he takes them into consideration and if he feels he has | :08:00. | :08:04. | |
the team and the player power to dictate to the opposition, he will | :08:05. | :08:09. | |
play whatever he wants. But if he respects certain attributes from the | :08:10. | :08:11. | |
opposition, he will make adjustments. That is just adapting. | :08:12. | :08:16. | |
He does that during the game, but what has to happen before that, you | :08:17. | :08:20. | |
have to do the training so that players understand what is expected | :08:21. | :08:26. | |
if the formation changes. The players need to practise that. | :08:27. | :08:33. | |
Hiwula said the players, 11 versus 11, we have five minutes, we are 1-0 | :08:34. | :08:39. | |
down and we have five minutes to score. We are going to play like | :08:40. | :08:43. | |
this. Then he will say, have a drink, back on the pitch. I have | :08:44. | :08:49. | |
made two substitutions and we are going to defend for five minutes | :08:50. | :08:55. | |
like this. Then they understand the advantages and disadvantages. So | :08:56. | :08:58. | |
when it comes to Saturday, they know what they are doing. Ronald Koeman | :08:59. | :09:02. | |
said yesterday it was the best team he had come across in his managerial | :09:03. | :09:06. | |
career. He was able to stop them a bit in their tracks, but let's talk | :09:07. | :09:11. | |
about Ross Barkley. He wasn't used at all yesterday. Alyson, how do you | :09:12. | :09:15. | |
feel they have handled Ross Barkley's situation? Is too much | :09:16. | :09:21. | |
pressure being put on him? He is still only 22, which I was surprised | :09:22. | :09:28. | |
by as he has played so much football already. It is an interesting one. | :09:29. | :09:32. | |
I'm guessing everyone around this table would have thought he was | :09:33. | :09:35. | |
going to be a superstar when he first broke into the Premier League. | :09:36. | :09:41. | |
And he will not have stopped being a classy player with an eye for a | :09:42. | :09:50. | |
goal. The trouble is, football has become so disciplined. The managers | :09:51. | :09:53. | |
want you to do exactly what they say. They don't want you to do | :09:54. | :09:56. | |
things on the hoof, to be overly expressive. You are in a system, and | :09:57. | :10:02. | |
you play to that system. I suspect when Ross Barkley gets out there, he | :10:03. | :10:10. | |
sometimes... Overexcited sounds patronising, but he doesn't always | :10:11. | :10:13. | |
stick to the plan. It is easy for a manager to think, I will have a | :10:14. | :10:18. | |
break from him now, because it is mucking things up. I remember Roy | :10:19. | :10:22. | |
Hodgson absolutely losing it with Ross Barkley for England because he | :10:23. | :10:26. | |
was not doing as he was told. Maverick. Don't you feel it is | :10:27. | :10:34. | |
harder to be a maverick? It is, yeah. Deano has more managerial | :10:35. | :10:42. | |
experience, but as a manager, when you get into that technical area, | :10:43. | :10:47. | |
you want to know what you are getting from a player. If someone | :10:48. | :10:50. | |
has their own agenda, it becomes more difficult to put them into a | :10:51. | :10:54. | |
team structure. So I feel that Ross does come into that type of player, | :10:55. | :10:59. | |
where he will go on his own. But if he's going to do stuff on his own | :11:00. | :11:02. | |
and be successful, you would take him all day long. But when he is not | :11:03. | :11:11. | |
successful, that is the problem. You have got the whole team. If he has | :11:12. | :11:15. | |
played poorly week in, week out and he's still playing, the rest of the | :11:16. | :11:19. | |
players will question you as a manager. So he has had to give a | :11:20. | :11:23. | |
rest and hopefully, he can rekindle what he is about. He is similar to | :11:24. | :11:27. | |
Daniel Sturridge with Liverpool. They have a pressing situation going | :11:28. | :11:33. | |
on, and Daniel is not as good as some of the other players, so he has | :11:34. | :11:37. | |
not played as much football. When they haven't got the ball, I don't | :11:38. | :11:43. | |
think doing enough, Ross. I think the manager is saying, sit and | :11:44. | :11:47. | |
watch. I can't play you in a two because you run all over the place. | :11:48. | :11:54. | |
He is not disciplined enough. When I play you at Number Ten, you drift | :11:55. | :11:57. | |
out of games for half an hour. I don't mind you doing that, provided | :11:58. | :12:01. | |
that when we lose the ball, you work your socks off. I have seen Ross do | :12:02. | :12:08. | |
a couple of post-match interviews and been quite concerned at how | :12:09. | :12:13. | |
heavily he was breathing. So there are maybe fitness issues. Or he | :12:14. | :12:21. | |
smokes. Let's not get involved with that! That is one thing I would | :12:22. | :12:27. | |
question. He is a strong looking boy, but maybe not as fit as he | :12:28. | :12:33. | |
could be. The dynamics are so different. Aguero looks like he has | :12:34. | :12:38. | |
lost half a stone. The players look so much fitter. I'm not sure if Ross | :12:39. | :12:44. | |
is as fit as he could be. A quick word on penalties. Dean, you are | :12:45. | :12:48. | |
striker. Manchester City, four out of eight penalties this season they | :12:49. | :12:53. | |
have scored, which is not a great return. I have scored lots of | :12:54. | :13:05. | |
penalties and I have missed loads. Both penalties were similar, and the | :13:06. | :13:11. | |
perfect height for a goalkeeper to save. Most goalkeepers dive down, | :13:12. | :13:16. | |
they don't dig up in the air. If that penalty is not right in the | :13:17. | :13:24. | |
corner, they are on the way down, and if you ask them where they would | :13:25. | :13:29. | |
want you to put it, they would want you to put it there. I have tried | :13:30. | :13:33. | |
doing it in training where you don't even look at the ball, they are | :13:34. | :13:38. | |
looking at the goalkeeper. Aguero take three steps, looks at the | :13:39. | :13:42. | |
goalkeeper, and he's waiting for the goalkeeper to dive. He doesn't even | :13:43. | :13:45. | |
look at the ball. I have tried it. It is difficult. You have to give | :13:46. | :13:53. | |
credit to Stekelenburg. He anticipated it right. That draw at | :13:54. | :13:56. | |
Manchester City means that Arsenal went level at the top of the table | :13:57. | :14:00. | |
with their win over Swansea yesterday. It is their sixth league | :14:01. | :14:05. | |
win in a row. And Theo Walcott's two goals means he has scored five in | :14:06. | :14:11. | |
eight games. Alyson, you were at the Emirates yesterday. We will chat | :14:12. | :14:13. | |
about Theo Walcott, because it was the good and the bad, perhaps. Two | :14:14. | :14:18. | |
goals, but it could have been three or four. Policy of. Even when he has | :14:19. | :14:30. | |
a good game, one shot hits the upright and skids across. That | :14:31. | :14:33. | |
happens to the best of players. That doesn't make him poor. Then there | :14:34. | :14:38. | |
was the glaring miss at the end, but again, it keeps the woodwork. We are | :14:39. | :14:42. | |
talking a matter of inches. It is not like it looked really stupid. It | :14:43. | :14:47. | |
just seems to be the way it goes for Theo. Even when he plays well, | :14:48. | :14:51. | |
something happens to him that makes people say he is not as good as he | :14:52. | :15:02. | |
could be. He is 27. This could be his season. He spoke very well | :15:03. | :15:06. | |
afterwards. Nice level of self-confidence. Some players say | :15:07. | :15:12. | |
the right words and you don't think they mean it. I felt he meant, I am | :15:13. | :15:18. | |
in a good place at the moment. He's working hard for the team. At times, | :15:19. | :15:23. | |
Arsenal looked a bit like the German national team, in that you don't | :15:24. | :15:26. | |
know who is going to score the goal. Anyone could score, and every player | :15:27. | :15:31. | |
on the pitch by the keeper looks like they could get forward to score | :15:32. | :15:34. | |
the goal, and they are in tune with each other. It didn't last the whole | :15:35. | :15:38. | |
game, but there were moments when it was like that and Theo works well in | :15:39. | :15:41. | |
that sort of free-flowing system where he is allowed to move where he | :15:42. | :15:44. | |
wants. You mentioned this could be the | :15:45. | :15:53. | |
season... You heard it before. We've heard it for the last four or five | :15:54. | :15:58. | |
years. Where do you feel on him's I think he was poor last year and lost | :15:59. | :16:01. | |
his focus for whatever reason. I was a big fan of his. He's probably not | :16:02. | :16:09. | |
got the most amount of guile for a player. His pace, his enthusiasm and | :16:10. | :16:12. | |
the way he dedicates himself to the game, he's been brilliant, but I | :16:13. | :16:17. | |
just feel last season he lost his focus, lost a lot of confidence and | :16:18. | :16:21. | |
he was playing poorly. I saw him at Old Trafford and they might as well | :16:22. | :16:26. | |
have played with ten men, Arsenal, cos he was that poor on the pitch | :16:27. | :16:30. | |
but I think the way he's reacted, left out of the euro squad for the | :16:31. | :16:34. | |
summer, he's reacted in the right way. He looks fitter than he is | :16:35. | :16:37. | |
looked for a long time and books like he's got that zest back for the | :16:38. | :16:41. | |
game. He is playing well and scoring goals. He hit one post and it nearly | :16:42. | :16:44. | |
had the other post it that was so one lucky. He have scored six. If | :16:45. | :16:52. | |
you get the chances, you get yourself in them positions, you will | :16:53. | :16:56. | |
score goals. There was element is where you just think, he really is | :16:57. | :17:01. | |
getting towards his best. And as a player, about 28 or 29 is when you | :17:02. | :17:07. | |
reach your pick. He has already equalled what he managed in the | :17:08. | :17:11. | |
whole of last season in terms of goals. Only once has he broke a | :17:12. | :17:15. | |
double figures barrier. He wants to play through the middle. Is he | :17:16. | :17:18. | |
somebody that Arsenal can rely on to get the goals or is that why he's | :17:19. | :17:24. | |
being forced out? I think Sanchez is better than him. Sanchez has had a | :17:25. | :17:31. | |
problem when he was put up as a lone striker, he was getting deep | :17:32. | :17:36. | |
midfield. Walcott was playing wide. I think it helps Walcott, playing | :17:37. | :17:41. | |
with Sanchez at the middle. I've always felt, when he gets in on goal | :17:42. | :17:44. | |
along that byline, he gets it wrong too many times the player of his | :17:45. | :17:49. | |
ability and it does help the striker you play with making the right runs | :17:50. | :17:53. | |
for you. I think Sanchez has grown into that role. Is realising that | :17:54. | :17:58. | |
he's got to be on the end of the last pass and Walcott is looking | :17:59. | :18:03. | |
better for it. It was Bradley's first game in charge yesterday at | :18:04. | :18:07. | |
Swansea. What did you make of the team that he put out and how he set | :18:08. | :18:11. | |
up? He's not had a huge amount of time with the players but there were | :18:12. | :18:16. | |
certainly moments when they looked very good and they did challenge | :18:17. | :18:23. | |
Arsenal. First of all, Bradley is a very lucky manager because he has | :18:24. | :18:26. | |
inherited Sikhism, who I think is one of the best in the Premier | :18:27. | :18:32. | |
League. -- Goodridge Sigurdsson. He went four for two, which was brave. | :18:33. | :18:36. | |
I was slightly worried about what that would mean for Goodridge | :18:37. | :18:43. | |
Sigurdsson's roll. You don't want him isolated but he got very | :18:44. | :18:47. | |
involved. His athleticism, the way he bails people out, he will get the | :18:48. | :18:55. | |
tackle in. So as long as he appreciates that he's got one of the | :18:56. | :18:59. | |
best players in the league, he will be all right but he has come in with | :19:00. | :19:05. | |
lots of conspiracy theories. Why is an American with no Premier League | :19:06. | :19:10. | |
experience who has come from France, why is he taking over a Premier | :19:11. | :19:18. | |
League club? He's got a reputation for being a bit of a Sergeant Major | :19:19. | :19:23. | |
and yet he has taken over at a club with a reputation for. Football so | :19:24. | :19:29. | |
that it felt wrong but he has said all the right things - I'm here to | :19:30. | :19:33. | |
learn, not to tell people what to do. I want to apply discipline. A | :19:34. | :19:41. | |
lot of people have come out of the woodwork and said that on Dirk | :19:42. | :19:47. | |
wheedling training was a bit lax. He wants to make training exciting | :19:48. | :19:56. | |
again. They've played nicely but not had that grit and determination. It | :19:57. | :20:01. | |
is too early to make the judgment call on Bradley, the manager, except | :20:02. | :20:06. | |
that he decided it was time to change the web addresses. What is | :20:07. | :20:14. | |
the chat back in Wales about this appointment and where Swansea are | :20:15. | :20:17. | |
and what they can achieve because Theo Walcott said he thought they | :20:18. | :20:20. | |
were a very underrated side. They The manager got sacked the next day | :20:21. | :20:35. | |
after it was made 2- to. I don't commission of change the manager. | :20:36. | :20:39. | |
There was no panic. I'm a Swansea fan. Staying in the Premier League, | :20:40. | :20:44. | |
I'm happy with that. 11 years ago, we were a goal away from the | :20:45. | :20:47. | |
Conference going into that league so sucking the manager... And I didn't | :20:48. | :20:52. | |
like the bit where they interviewed the night before the Liverpool game | :20:53. | :20:57. | |
and he was still the manager, so what would have happened if they'd | :20:58. | :21:00. | |
equalised against Liverpool? He stays in the job. I don't think | :21:01. | :21:05. | |
there was any need to panic. They could have waited and especially | :21:06. | :21:10. | |
letting him go to Arsenal on his first game... They could've left | :21:11. | :21:13. | |
lasted another week. They are playing Watford. No disrespect but | :21:14. | :21:17. | |
it is an easy game, especially after two toff once. But we've got to get | :21:18. | :21:21. | |
behind him now and hopefully he does the job but I didn't think there was | :21:22. | :21:26. | |
any need to panic. Watford on Stoke are the next two games for Swansea. | :21:27. | :21:30. | |
That will probably be more of a test of what Bradley can achieve on a | :21:31. | :21:35. | |
trip to the Emirates. Although they've got a good record against | :21:36. | :21:41. | |
Arsenal. I do feel the philosophy of Swansea City doesn't fit well with | :21:42. | :21:49. | |
Bradley. He has... The way you've seen managers come to Swansea and | :21:50. | :21:54. | |
get headhunted, I'm not sure this is going to be the case for Bradley but | :21:55. | :21:58. | |
American owners have different ideas and it is their club. I just hope | :21:59. | :22:04. | |
the fans get what they expect, good football, good philosophy. They've | :22:05. | :22:11. | |
lost the main man, Ashley Williams. The captain in the dressing room. He | :22:12. | :22:15. | |
was like the manager, the leader. He is gone to Everton and doing great | :22:16. | :22:19. | |
it up they will miss him badly. They will. There are two games in the | :22:20. | :22:23. | |
Premier League today, Southampton against Burnley at 4pm, but first | :22:24. | :22:28. | |
Middlesbrough against Watford at 1:30pm. Both games are live on Radio | :22:29. | :22:32. | |
5 live and Alan Greene is at the Riverside. Both teams today have | :22:33. | :22:39. | |
made a couple of changes. Middlesbrough's the more | :22:40. | :22:42. | |
interesting. They bring back Negredo and Ramires, the attacking duo who | :22:43. | :22:47. | |
have been left out for the last league game. They are chosen ahead | :22:48. | :22:51. | |
of roads and Fisher. Negredo is the out and out striker, Ramires is | :22:52. | :22:54. | |
playing behind him, otherwise Middlesbrough are unchanged. Ighalo | :22:55. | :23:01. | |
is in Nigeria after the death of his father and it is another Nigerian | :23:02. | :23:06. | |
who replaces him, the young Isaac Success who cost 12.5 million, so | :23:07. | :23:12. | |
this is his debut for Watford. The other alteration is in their | :23:13. | :23:19. | |
defence, there is no Zuniga. Britos comes into the centre of defence and | :23:20. | :23:23. | |
we think Kabul will be at the right back. A big game in the | :23:24. | :23:26. | |
championship. Huddersfield can return to the top with a win over | :23:27. | :23:33. | |
Sheffield Wednesday. Kicked off at midday and Alistair Yearwood is | :23:34. | :23:39. | |
watching. It is nil nil at the moment. Sheffield Wednesday hit the | :23:40. | :23:43. | |
crossbar off David Jones for the home side have grown into this and | :23:44. | :23:47. | |
Kasey Palmer, the England U21 international on loan from Chelsea, | :23:48. | :23:50. | |
highly promising, produced a beautiful shot and really tested | :23:51. | :23:55. | |
Keiren Westwood, the Republic of Ireland international goalkeeper but | :23:56. | :24:01. | |
without with about seven minutes to go, it is still 0-0. Let's turn our | :24:02. | :24:07. | |
attention to tomorrow night. Simon Stone has been speaking to | :24:08. | :24:11. | |
Manchester United and England winger Jesse Lingard header that big match | :24:12. | :24:17. | |
against Liverpool. Liverpool is the main game of the | :24:18. | :24:23. | |
season. A tough side, especially now they have a different way of | :24:24. | :24:28. | |
playing. It is a great place to play. The fans are always behind us | :24:29. | :24:34. | |
on the awaydays so a great experience for us. We are going to | :24:35. | :24:40. | |
be working hard to get the win. The team has changed a little bit since | :24:41. | :24:46. | |
last season, with the flat and, Paul Pogba, obviously. You know him so | :24:47. | :24:50. | |
well from when he was here before. Did you keep in touch with him when | :24:51. | :24:53. | |
he was in Italy and is it good to have him back? Of course I kept in | :24:54. | :24:57. | |
touch with him. It's like he's been away and he's come back, like he's | :24:58. | :25:02. | |
been on holiday and has come back. He is still the same as when he was | :25:03. | :25:07. | |
18. He has not changed one bit. Still feet on the ground and | :25:08. | :25:14. | |
level-headed. He is a good lad. Liverpool against Manchester United | :25:15. | :25:17. | |
is live on Radio 5 live tomorrow night and you can see highlights on | :25:18. | :25:22. | |
that of the day two, which is on tomorrow night on BBC One. -- Match | :25:23. | :25:29. | |
of the Day to. Alison Rodger alongside me, is this just Mourinho | :25:30. | :25:35. | |
being Mourinho and drawing attention to the fact that there is a referee | :25:36. | :25:39. | |
from the greater Manchester area refereeing this match or is this a | :25:40. | :25:44. | |
legitimate problem something they should be concerned about? As soon | :25:45. | :25:49. | |
as a referee becomes part of the story, as the manager you have to | :25:50. | :25:53. | |
make sure that is to your advantage so it is in Mourinho's interests to | :25:54. | :25:57. | |
suggest that Anthony Taylor is going to feel the need to overcompensate, | :25:58. | :26:01. | |
so the fact that he was born very close to Manchester means he might | :26:02. | :26:05. | |
therefore feel obliged to be extra strict with decisions that might | :26:06. | :26:09. | |
have gone for Manchester. It is ridiculous. But that's what you have | :26:10. | :26:15. | |
to do if you are the manager. This is a nonstory because the one thing | :26:16. | :26:18. | |
we do have in this country are referees who wouldn't be in the | :26:19. | :26:21. | |
slightest bit corrupt it up they may not be very good at the job but they | :26:22. | :26:25. | |
are not corrupt. There is no way Anthony Taylor is going into that | :26:26. | :26:29. | |
game thinking, "I really love Manchester but I want Liverpool to | :26:30. | :26:32. | |
get one over on Manchester because I'm an Altrincham fan". It doesn't | :26:33. | :26:37. | |
work that way so it is a nonstory but soon as it becomes one, you will | :26:38. | :26:41. | |
find any asked about it will think how they can make it to their | :26:42. | :26:45. | |
advantage and make out they will have to think again. Goal but you | :26:46. | :26:50. | |
can understand why., from the Manchester area, it is like when you | :26:51. | :26:55. | |
referee again frock -- a game for your son, you are going to be harsh. | :26:56. | :27:02. | |
He is going to be in a position where he feels he has to be harsh | :27:03. | :27:09. | |
against Manchester United. He is saying, you can't give us anything | :27:10. | :27:12. | |
so it is going to be scrutinised so what is going to Anthony Taylor's | :27:13. | :27:19. | |
mind? Has been precedents in this. Liverpool versus Manchester and | :27:20. | :27:23. | |
Brendan Rodgers, who was fined for his comments after the match and | :27:24. | :27:28. | |
said, "I hope never again do we see a referee from Greater Manchester | :27:29. | :27:33. | |
referee a Liverpool/ Manchester game". Is this something that | :27:34. | :27:36. | |
authorities have to look at, those that appoint referees? Does anything | :27:37. | :27:41. | |
need to happen or is it just something that we have a certain | :27:42. | :27:44. | |
number of referees in this country that can referee the top-level | :27:45. | :27:48. | |
games. Referees have to say who they supported when they were growing up, | :27:49. | :27:52. | |
where their affiliations are, and then they don't referee that team. | :27:53. | :27:58. | |
You can't start saying, where were you born? How many Manchester United | :27:59. | :28:02. | |
fans were born in London? It doesn't mean anything where you were born at | :28:03. | :28:05. | |
all. It matters a lot to some people, who will only support that | :28:06. | :28:13. | |
team. What you do if you are a referee and you live in London? You | :28:14. | :28:17. | |
can't referee any gains in London? So what we're actually saying is | :28:18. | :28:22. | |
that they're a little bit corrupt, by all this conversation, but | :28:23. | :28:26. | |
they're not. They're not. Let's get the actual football which is what we | :28:27. | :28:29. | |
will hopefully be talking about after the match on Monday. A huge | :28:30. | :28:33. | |
game for both managers and teams in terms title ambitions. Absolutely. | :28:34. | :28:40. | |
I'm sure Dean is really excited for the game at Anfield. The new | :28:41. | :28:43. | |
standards erected and it is probably the biggest gain since the new stand | :28:44. | :28:46. | |
has been erected at Anfield and I feel Liverpool will be looking | :28:47. | :28:49. | |
forward to this more than Manchester United, the way they've started, | :28:50. | :28:54. | |
what they've got going forward, that front six, the creativity they've | :28:55. | :28:58. | |
shown and the way they've been pressing teams and putting teams to | :28:59. | :29:02. | |
the sword. I feel they'll do that to stay united and it is going to be a | :29:03. | :29:06. | |
very difficult evening for Manchester United. You mentioned the | :29:07. | :29:11. | |
forward players. Manchester has a huge character in the forward line | :29:12. | :29:16. | |
but which forward players excite you most in terms of Liverpool and | :29:17. | :29:19. | |
Manchester? I think Liverpool are playing well. The whole game is | :29:20. | :29:25. | |
going to be brilliant. The two managers are characters, their | :29:26. | :29:27. | |
personalities standout. The club has got everyone behind them. The | :29:28. | :29:32. | |
supporters love the manager. Mourinho was like public and in the | :29:33. | :29:37. | |
number one in Liverpool. -- public enemy. But up the front, Manet is | :29:38. | :29:46. | |
like lightning. He and his team-mate looked like they can create when | :29:47. | :29:50. | |
teams play against them and they can counterattack so it is going to be | :29:51. | :29:53. | |
tough for Manchester United but they've got class players as well. | :29:54. | :29:57. | |
Mourinho will get it right eventually and once he gets it | :29:58. | :30:00. | |
right, they've got class players and they can beat anybody on the day. We | :30:01. | :30:06. | |
talk about title ambitions, obviously it is very early in the | :30:07. | :30:09. | |
season, but Liverpool have a good record against Chelsea, they've | :30:10. | :30:13. | |
drawn with Cheltenham and beaten Arsenal, beaten Leicester. When it | :30:14. | :30:16. | |
comes with those round about them, Liverpool are certainly holding | :30:17. | :30:21. | |
their own. Absolutely. But already, there have been jokes from Jurgen | :30:22. | :30:26. | |
Klopp about... There is this theory now, starting day one of the season, | :30:27. | :30:30. | |
that Liverpool won't be able to keep it going all season. How can you | :30:31. | :30:36. | |
keep up that relentless, pressing... Even their relentless attitude, in a | :30:37. | :30:40. | |
way? How can you keep that up for the whole season? It is not a stupid | :30:41. | :30:47. | |
idea to question whether they have that ability but I would say, he's | :30:48. | :30:53. | |
been there exactly a year now. We knew he did it in Germany, he kept | :30:54. | :31:00. | |
unfashionable clubs going and going. He's got much better players at | :31:01. | :31:05. | |
Liverpool, so why can't he keep it going all season? He has proved it | :31:06. | :31:09. | |
is possible. I think that has been the most fascinating thing about | :31:10. | :31:13. | |
clock and Liverpool is the fact that it has to implode at some point, but | :31:14. | :31:20. | |
I respect it doesn't have to. We haven't seen it before. We haven't | :31:21. | :31:23. | |
seen someone take that Borussia Dortmund approach to football and | :31:24. | :31:26. | |
make it happen here. Liverpool made a profit over the | :31:27. | :31:35. | |
summer. He hasn't brought in amazing talents. If he wins the title, it | :31:36. | :31:40. | |
will be because of his strategy and style. It is the formula. Why is | :31:41. | :31:46. | |
Daniel Sturridge not playing? For me, his ability is up there with | :31:47. | :31:50. | |
Aguero when he has got the ball. When he hasn't got the ball, he is | :31:51. | :31:57. | |
not fitting into the formula. It is the attitude that the players who | :31:58. | :32:07. | |
are fit and those who fit his style of the ones who are going to play. | :32:08. | :32:16. | |
At Dortmund, he had a steady change of players. The minute you drop of | :32:17. | :32:21. | |
what he wants you to do, there is only so bad you can be. The formula | :32:22. | :32:27. | |
is based around getting the ball back when you have not got the ball. | :32:28. | :32:35. | |
There is only so bad you can be. Talking about Sturridge not playing | :32:36. | :32:39. | |
for Liverpool, Rooney is the one who has been missing out for Manchester | :32:40. | :32:44. | |
United. A huge week for them. They have Fenerbahce at home on Thursday | :32:45. | :32:50. | |
and then bring placed Chelsea again at the weekend. Where does Rooney | :32:51. | :32:54. | |
fit in this week? You would have to ask Jose Mourinho that. He has | :32:55. | :32:57. | |
watched him day in, day out in training. He knows what his form is | :32:58. | :33:02. | |
like. And if he is good enough, he will play. But as we have seen, | :33:03. | :33:08. | |
Rooney's performances have not been anywhere near as good as the | :33:09. | :33:11. | |
standards he set for himself. He is not playing well, but class lasts | :33:12. | :33:19. | |
and if he works hard to get the form back, it will come back. At the | :33:20. | :33:25. | |
moment, he has not got the form. But it may come back in training and | :33:26. | :33:30. | |
Mourinho might feel he has got over his blip. What do you mean by his | :33:31. | :33:36. | |
form, though? He's not going to be as fast or strong as he was. Rooney | :33:37. | :33:44. | |
wants to be somebody else. That can happen. If you look at what John | :33:45. | :33:48. | |
Barnes did, a team-mate of Dean's, he was the action forward and had | :33:49. | :33:56. | |
agility and mobility and he used to win games. In the end, John Barnes | :33:57. | :33:59. | |
dropped back and ended up being a playmaker in midfield. Wayne Rooney | :34:00. | :34:03. | |
has the all-round ability to adapt. I have seen him train and play and I | :34:04. | :34:07. | |
have seen the impact he has had on football in the last 15 years in | :34:08. | :34:11. | |
this country. If he starts dropping back, there is a sense of mistake | :34:12. | :34:16. | |
people don't want to talk about him as a midfielder. It happens to all | :34:17. | :34:20. | |
players. They come have that speed for the whole of their careers. If | :34:21. | :34:25. | |
they are good enough, and Wayne is, he's good enough to drop deeper and | :34:26. | :34:28. | |
play as a midfielder in the right formation. And I agree with you, | :34:29. | :34:33. | |
Alyson, he's never going to have the same pace and intensity he had ten | :34:34. | :34:40. | |
years ago. So he needs to adapt. His manager says he is only going to | :34:41. | :34:45. | |
play him up front. I disagree. I don't feel when has the ability to | :34:46. | :34:52. | |
play that role so well any more. Not against the top teams. I think he is | :34:53. | :35:04. | |
getting too much stick. I do. Mourinho takes the flak sometimes. | :35:05. | :35:10. | |
He will say, have a go at me, so the talking point will be about him. I | :35:11. | :35:14. | |
think when we'll be saying, don't worry, I have got broad shoulders. | :35:15. | :35:19. | |
When we are winning, all this .. I know he is not as quick as he was, | :35:20. | :35:26. | |
but he is class. Of course he is. It seems like there is a vendetta | :35:27. | :35:30. | |
against him. He's having a bit of a bad time, big deal. He has been top | :35:31. | :35:35. | |
of the game for 15 years. Players have dipped in form. I remember | :35:36. | :35:39. | |
Manchester United doing Ryan Giggs, when he nearly went to Inter Milan. | :35:40. | :35:44. | |
He found himself being a club legend and staying for many years, so I am | :35:45. | :35:49. | |
sure when can do that, but he will have to adapt. Ryan Giggs adapted | :35:50. | :35:54. | |
his role as well. It will be a very interesting match between Liverpool | :35:55. | :35:57. | |
and Manchester United, which is live on BBC radio 5 Live. Let's go to | :35:58. | :36:02. | |
Alistair Yeomans at that match between Huddersfield and Sheffield | :36:03. | :36:05. | |
Wednesday, where it is half-time. Yes, you were talking about the | :36:06. | :36:15. | |
Jurgen Klopp way. Here, they have had five wins at the John Smith's | :36:16. | :36:18. | |
stadium, all by a single goal margin. So perhaps not surprisingly, | :36:19. | :36:23. | |
this game against Sheffield Wednesday has been very tight. It is | :36:24. | :36:30. | |
0-0. We were talking about Manchester United's trip to | :36:31. | :36:33. | |
Liverpool. After that, they go to Chelsea, who played the league | :36:34. | :36:37. | |
leaders yesterday and were comfortable 3-0 winners. Let's start | :36:38. | :36:44. | |
by talking about Leicester. It seems something has gone wrong for them, | :36:45. | :36:47. | |
Alyson, four games away from home without a win, really looking to | :36:48. | :36:53. | |
struggle to contain Chelsea. It is not the Leicester we saw last | :36:54. | :36:57. | |
season. This is what happens when you win the title while you are in | :36:58. | :36:58. | |
the kitchen. I think they have started this season in a slight | :36:59. | :37:17. | |
bubble of, did that really happened? They have also put a lot of emphasis | :37:18. | :37:21. | |
on doing well in Europe, which they are. They are certainly saving their | :37:22. | :37:25. | |
best performances for the European competition. You could argue that | :37:26. | :37:29. | |
the teams playing in Europe have never come across Leicester before, | :37:30. | :37:34. | |
the same way no one in the Premier League took Leicester seriously last | :37:35. | :37:42. | |
season until it was too late. I was in Bruges for Leicester's first | :37:43. | :37:45. | |
Champions League game, and the people of Bruges were really annoyed | :37:46. | :37:49. | |
that it was only Leicester they were getting as the seeded team. They | :37:50. | :37:52. | |
wanted a big club with big stars. No one had heard of Leicester, so they | :37:53. | :37:58. | |
couldn't sell enough tickets. They don't have the reputation. But they | :37:59. | :38:04. | |
have already lost more games this season than they did in the whole of | :38:05. | :38:09. | |
last season. They are not looking like title challengers. The irony is | :38:10. | :38:14. | |
that many airy was known as the tank and in his first incarnation in the | :38:15. | :38:17. | |
Premier League. He is having to learn how to tinker all over again. | :38:18. | :38:21. | |
I watched the goalless draw against Southampton and afterwards, Ranieri | :38:22. | :38:25. | |
said, I got that wrong. I should have rested players. I need to work | :38:26. | :38:30. | |
out what to do. Then he probably rested too many good players for the | :38:31. | :38:35. | |
game at Stamford Bridge. He has not got the balance right yet. I don't | :38:36. | :38:38. | |
think anyone in Leicester will mind if they do well in the Champions | :38:39. | :38:46. | |
League. When did Wes Morgan ever lose a striker from a corner like | :38:47. | :38:53. | |
that last season? He stood there looking at the ball. Vokes gets down | :38:54. | :39:02. | |
with the one-two for the next goal. That never happened last season. I | :39:03. | :39:09. | |
know they have lost Kante and Drinkwater has been injured, but | :39:10. | :39:13. | |
little things are going on. You can see Ranieri saying it as well. This | :39:14. | :39:20. | |
is not the team from last season. I don't think anyone in the game is | :39:21. | :39:24. | |
surprised that they are going to struggle this year. They had an | :39:25. | :39:29. | |
amazing story last year. Does lightning strike twice for a team | :39:30. | :39:32. | |
like Leicester? I don't think it does. I think it was a one-off. But | :39:33. | :39:40. | |
isn't it quite canny than for Ranieri to prioritise the Champions | :39:41. | :39:46. | |
League? Absolutely. Let's have another bit of romance, but do it in | :39:47. | :39:51. | |
Europe this time. The same could be said for Chelsea, but in a positive | :39:52. | :39:56. | |
way. A change of formation, and Eden Hazard looked superb yesterday. Yes. | :39:57. | :40:01. | |
At the beginning of the season, I put Chelsea down as winning the | :40:02. | :40:06. | |
league. I thought, they are not in Europe. Their players will not turn | :40:07. | :40:11. | |
into bad players overnight. They had a bad season. They have a good | :40:12. | :40:21. | |
manager who could stamp his authority on the players. They | :40:22. | :40:24. | |
needed a strong character coming in as the leader, and they have got | :40:25. | :40:27. | |
that. He has changed a few at the back, and that suits Chelsea. As | :40:28. | :40:40. | |
long as you can get very energetic wingbacks who know when to join in, | :40:41. | :40:44. | |
they have a fantastic formula. That was a test yesterday. Costa played | :40:45. | :40:57. | |
really well. They broke away. He has to slip the ball to his right, he | :40:58. | :41:05. | |
doesn't. The manager shouts to him, and Costa gives him that one take me | :41:06. | :41:12. | |
off. Then he has a dilemma. As a manager, if your top scorer is doing | :41:13. | :41:15. | |
that in front of everybody, do you bring him straight off or deal with | :41:16. | :41:18. | |
it after the game? I imagine he would have called him in and said, | :41:19. | :41:23. | |
if you ever do that to me again... He is a hothead. He has got to deal | :41:24. | :41:35. | |
with that. He has to look after him, because he needs him at least until | :41:36. | :41:43. | |
the January transfer window. I would have brought him straight off. You | :41:44. | :41:48. | |
would not have thought, I'm going to show him who the manager is | :41:49. | :41:52. | |
afterwards? That is why I am sat here! I have the under 18s and the | :41:53. | :41:57. | |
U21s to think of and the rest of the squad. If he can do it, they all | :41:58. | :42:02. | |
start doing it. In the heat of the moment, if you have made a decision, | :42:03. | :42:07. | |
Costa would have known he made the wrong decision. You don't mean not | :42:08. | :42:17. | |
to pick that pass out. That is where your assistant manager comes in. He | :42:18. | :42:20. | |
should be greeting him as he comes off the pitch and saying, go and | :42:21. | :42:25. | |
apologise to the manager. Lets end on a positive. Bournemouth, six | :42:26. | :42:31. | |
goals, what a result. Fantastic stuff for them. A terrible afternoon | :42:32. | :42:38. | |
for Hull. Top manager. He leads by example. The lads are fit as a | :42:39. | :42:46. | |
fiddle. He never criticises the players on a match day, as in giving | :42:47. | :42:53. | |
them a hard time. In training, here's hard as nails. He sees a | :42:54. | :42:57. | |
snapshot of who is going to play well, he picks those players, and | :42:58. | :43:02. | |
they perform. Rob has to say falling just served up by Eddie Howe. Five | :43:03. | :43:07. | |
Englishmen scored yesterday for Bournemouth. When did that last | :43:08. | :43:12. | |
happened? That is a good question. And Mel says stop looking at our | :43:13. | :43:16. | |
manager, how about some of the players for an England call-up? Any | :43:17. | :43:20. | |
chance of that, Alyson? I would be all for building England around an | :43:21. | :43:25. | |
unfashionable club like Bournemouth. It is not working by picking players | :43:26. | :43:34. | |
from around Europe. Sorry to put dampener on it, but Hull City's | :43:35. | :43:41. | |
defending was horrific yesterday. Well, we will try to end on a high, | :43:42. | :43:46. | |
Bedene has just ruined it. Thank you very much to Trevor, Dean and | :43:47. | :43:50. | |
Alyson. Match Of The Day 2 is on tomorrow night, with highlights from | :43:51. | :43:54. | |
Liverpool against Manchester United, and we will be back next week. Hope | :43:55. | :43:56. | |
to see them. Goodbye now. | :43:57. | :44:02. |