England v New Zealand - Match 2 Rugby League 2015


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Welcome to the stadium at the Queen Elizabeth Olympic Park for the

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second test between England and New Zealand. One of the sport's biggest

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fans, Colin Welland, who passed away this week said Rugby League provides

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a cultural adrenaline. It is a physical manifestation of our rules

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of life. Comradeship, honest endeavour, and an allegiance to

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Fairplay. Welcome back. MUSIC: "Have Yourself A Merry Little

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Christmas" An early Christmas present. We will

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talk about the game in a moment but we will talk about Sam Burgess first

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of all. Did you get goose bumps watching that? Yes. It is exciting

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for the game. He is a genuine superstar and to get him back in

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Rugby League is very good. One of my pet hates is wasting talent and I

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think he is back in the game that will allow him to maximise his

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potential. The only thing is he needs to get his 80s perm here do.

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Has he wasted his talent? Rugby League is a difficult game for his

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talent to shine. He needs to have the ball in his hands 20 times a

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game. Rugby League is a better sport to allow him to do that. You talk to

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him a lot. How difficult has he found the last few weeks? Any big

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decision would be difficult but he has made the right decision for him

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and his family. I heard rumours from all sorts of corners. There has been

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a lot of hysteria. He is back in the game that reveres him, that loves

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him, that wanting to do well. The courts are very different and it

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would have taken time to get up to speed -- the sports. Was he given

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enough time? You have a foot in rugby union and Rugby League. What

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is your overriding emotion? I care for both games, believe it or not.

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There are a minority who want people to feel. A lot of the people don't

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know much about what is going on in that position. For me, it has been a

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shambles and I'm very sad, everybody has been writing about it. If they

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did not think he was right to play, that was their decision. I went back

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to rugby union after seven years in Rugby League and I did not think I

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was good enough but yet I played for Wales, I would have not turned that

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down. For me, the balance, the selection was wrong. When Sam was on

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the field for England they were winning. If he had stayed on they

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would have won. A lot has been written about it and a lot of

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rubbish. What is disappointing for all of us is he has not made the

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stellar impact we thought he would but that takes time. I believe, I

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wanted England to win the Rugby Union World Cup, I wanted everybody

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to do well. The scapegoat attitude from some quarters has been

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embarrassing, we all want to do well in English sport and get over the

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line. The fact he has made this decision now is a good decision. I

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did not have a choice to go back. If I did not make it then I was gone, I

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was history. You pick Sam to do a job. His job is to get over that

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gain line. You pick him in a position where he plays for his

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club, with Jonathan Joseph at 13. What happens, the selection goes

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wrong, when I went to Rugby League, they knew what job I needed to do. I

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knew my role. It is not his fault. England have just come out to warm

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up find us. Hopefully next year we will be seeing others in an England

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shirt. If we want this sport to grow and more people to watch about it --

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watch it and have more articles in the paper, does Rugby League suffer

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through Sam Burgess deciding to leave after a short period of time?

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I don't think you can replace that responsibility on his shoulders.

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There are a number of reasons why he has not had success but that is not

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one of them. All the people Colin him a quitter, saying he has gone

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back early, they don't even know him. If you look at his story, he is

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not a quitter, he is a great bloke. What he's done is he has said, I am

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Robert I will put my faith in the coaches and the people who have

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signed me and put me in the right areas and that has not worked. Sam

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wanted to be the world's best, he wanted to come to rugby union. To

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me, the backdrop to all this is something that makes him recognise,

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I might be better off back in Australia, I might be better off

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back in my own game. Let me read you a quote. He says, I say good

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riddance, there is a decent, honourable England coach, he decided

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he might fancy a crack at rugby union but then did not fancy it at

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all. I don't agree with that, ultimately it is Stuart Lancaster's

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job, and his neck is on the block. If he does not think a player is

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good enough he does not pick him. Kyle Eastmond comes from Rugby

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League. The balance and selection was wrong. Sam Burgess came to this

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rugby to play for England in the World Cup. If they thought he was

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ready then they picked him. If they did not think he was ready then they

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do not pick him. Stuart Lancaster is a decent bloke. If you had switched

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codes after a year do you think you would be ready to play International

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Rugby Board and, and if you did not feel ready would you say it? I would

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not have been ready, I don't have the talent he has. What this has

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shown us is even though I have met people with great values there is an

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element of snobbery that comes through that game, and you can tell

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from that article, they look down on the sport of Rugby League. You wrote

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your eyes at me, so go on. I get it. Rugby League fans think I am not a

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Rugby League player because I was born and bred in Wales, I played

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union and I worked on the union game. When he came into Rugby

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League, we wanted to kill him because they had taken all our money

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and livelihoods and we spent every day of the week thinking, we are

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playing against this... Were you jealous? Not jealous, it was a crazy

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element of, we want him to fail because he is not that good. But he

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was that good. All the players would have wanted Santa be a success. --

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would have wanted Sam Burgess to be a success. That was not his fault.

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You don't think there was any envy? I would be disappointed if there

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were rugby union players who did not want him to succeed. Ultimately I

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would hope they would want him to be successful and raise the profile of

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the game, as he would have done for rugby union. They have moulded him

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and he does a job for New Zealand. You become revered after that.

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Becomes revered and accepted. Sam Burgess had the talent to be that

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revered. It would not surprise me if he went through to the 2017 World

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Cup and tried to come back for the rugby union World Cup to prove

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people wrong. You can get in touch because this will obviously be a

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huge part of the forum later on. We are talking to Steve McNamara

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earlier and he said he has had a conversation with Sam Burgess this

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morning. He said it is the first time he has spoken to him. He will

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not be back for this series. Getting away from the controversy and from

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the sport that we cover, it is exciting for this England team. I am

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really excited about the four nations next year and the prospect

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in the World Cup the next year after that. A quick word of where we are.

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We will focus on the match now. Jonathan and Brian will be part of

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the commentary team. Jamie will be with me as well. If you cannot play

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well in a stadium like this then you cannot play well anywhere. You would

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thrive on this, wouldn't you? Absolutely. I played 12 years for my

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country and never got to play in a stadium like this. They are going to

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twitch today coming in here. You have had to twitch today coming in

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here. You have had when I came to Rugby League I played in Anfield,

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Old Trafford, Wembley. These are the stadium is that when you grow up as

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a kid, irrespective of the sport, you want to play in these venues.

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Thank you. We will get underway at 2:30pm.

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Suddenly a chance to run for the line, and score!

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Those England players will be arriving at the Queen Elizabeth

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Olympic Park, buoyed by that second-half performance. Fans will

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be arriving hoping that England can go 2-0 up. They need to win today to

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level at before we head to Wigan next Saturday. It is the same

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starting 13 and the same bench for England. New Zealand are a little

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more interesting. We were not expecting the same starting 13 for

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them. They have added a bit of experience to the bench. That is the

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England players going on with their warm up routine. We will find out

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how they will play this afternoon. For 30 minutes last week it was a

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bit of arrest, New Zealand were getting on and then Steve McNamara

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played the super substitute. Came off the bench and scored two Mac

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tries. I want to focus on two players. One of them is Tom Burgess.

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He is a man mountain. When he carried the ball he is a man

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mountain. Another player to look at, coming to the other side of the

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play, James Roby. He is an 80 minute player but they've got him coming

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off the bench. That means he has got a little bit more energy. That means

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they can do the exciting things really well, leave people in bits

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and pieces. Just going to see whether I can get a quick word with

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Sean O'Loughlin. Today has been a big competition for you guys to see

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if you can seal of the series against New Zealand. We had a good

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start last week. Got the series off to a good start. Both teams

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improving today. Does it make sense for you to go with the same 17? Just

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about. I would like to have seen Ben Webster fit into these. He treads

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that line nice and thinly along there. Let's go to John Wilkins. How

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are they going to play today? I think they played fantastically well

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in the middle of the field. All the big men in this side have got a lot

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to do. Looking to stop the likes of James Graham, Chris Hill, who got

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that England team going. A couple of really important guys for this New

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Zealand side. Issac Luke, a powerful guy. But this guy here today, a

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young guy coming into the team. There is a lot of pressure on this

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young man. He needs to control this side, give them leadership, game

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management, but kick the ball and take pressure. A big favour this man

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and the big day for New Zealand. Thank you very much. They have been

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taking in the sights of the city courtesy of their guide, New

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Zealand. Ahead of the must win second test, they are taking some

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time out to see the sights of London. You've got one of the most

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interesting hairstyles in Rugby League, how long have you been

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growing that? Since I was about 16. As the captain, had you got your own

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sweet? I do! Who is the worst to list you've got? It would be Jordan

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Kahu, he has got the selfie stick. Are you enjoying looking at the

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sights of London? Myself, I don't normally leave my room. You would

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have been a young teenager watching some of these guys play. Now you've

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got to come in and direct them around. I used to be quiet but the

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boys have made me feel welcome. A lot of talk has been made about the

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England bench. Is that something you guys are highlighting? Maybe we

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lacked it a little bit but credit to them, they came on and played some

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good rugby. No excuses, obviously this is a must win game for us. We

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know the game plan now and we just need to knuckle down this week and

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nail it on Saturday. Just dropped the lads off, next

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stop, the Olympic Stadium. If you believe he actually drove that bus

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off, you will believe anything. If we look at New Zealand, did they

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look a little bit undercooked last week? They had a good game under the

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belt but they did not show enough urgency. That is game management.

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That allowed England to play exceptionally well. A lot of that

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manages to... You look at this, you have got guys coming back onside.

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The reason you would do that with urgency is to get some shape. They

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did not do that. A lot of people on the wrong side of the ball. This is

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New Zealand chasing the ball, they needed to create opportunities and

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this is a prime example. You needed to throw a blanket over this team.

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If I am in the England team I am thinking, let's be aggressive and

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thwart them. You can see that there is very little options, and that

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allows England to really press. Is it mental fatigue? Physical fatigue?

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I think it is physical. What we saw, they were chasing the game.

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What that does, it draws the energy out, the structure falls apart, it

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does not happen. He is tired, he loses his tackle technique, then it

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is a penalty. What are you doing again? It is a vicious cycle. Those

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are the problems. Those were lacking in New Zealand. If one of those bits

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fall down, it gets into a vicious cycle. I think we need to give

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England credit because they absolutely nailed all three of those

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in the second half. They were very disciplined, I don't think they gave

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away a penalty, many errors, the game management was superb. We don't

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have an Ingush referee, that will change things. There is a slight

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difference. -- English referee. The word has been coming out of the New

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Zealand camp that they were not used to having only one referee. Normally

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they have two referees. I think you will find, New Zealand are going to

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throw numbers into defence and test this one referee. I'm not going to

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let you say anymore because, much as I could listen to you talk all

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afternoon I want to hear from both coaches. You have changed your

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half-backs pairing, what is the thinking behind that? With this week

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I thought it was a benefit for us, I just thought by the end of the week,

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he would be a better fit for us. You stuck with the same 13, you must be

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pleased with what they did last week. I think we are all aware that

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there are areas for improvement and when you know there are areas for

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improvement you've got everything, your team, your bench, you're

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practising. We have decided to go with the same 17 that started last

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week. What are the areas you have been looking at? We never got a grip

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on the game from the beginning, we put ourselves on the back foot,

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credit to us, we found a way back but would not want to do that again

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this week. No second chances after today. If you lose this, the Test

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series has gone. Has that changed the mindset? From our point of view

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it is always about taking the best performance to the stadium, that is

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the challenge and the full quiz for us today. We will deal with the

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results after that. -- the focus. We feel we can give ourselves a good

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chance today. Has there been an element of keeping feet on the

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ground? They understand exactly what a tough game it was last week. Six

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days later we got to go again, we got to be very good to win this

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game. The big men got a lot of credit last week. They were very

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smart. It allowed them to continue the late drive and make

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opportunities. You see here, he carries the ball. Look at the

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shape. Subtle difference between the sides. That was my position. It is

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down to the work at the back. England have that in abundance.

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Those guys relied on support play. Reload is quickly. Should not be

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scoring this try. Make no mistake. That is bad defence.

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That is the key area they need to sort out. They need to retain the

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ball. It is a mindset, you are never as tired as you think you are. You

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can show that urgency to get back. If they don't get that right it is

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all over. They need to show that mindset. You can talk yourself into

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being tired in big games. Energy is infectious. The atmosphere will be

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infectious here. That man has been cheerleading the crowd. He took off

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his England Rugby League shirt. It is coming. Another T-shirt

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underneath. We all breathe a sigh of relief. The crowd will be getting

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behind both sets of teams. Credit to Steve McNamara for knowing where to

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make the interchange. In the first half that might have been forced by

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the lack of intensity but you've got to give him credit for his half-time

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team talk because they looked different in the second half. I

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thought James Roby was exceptional. I think it was a smart move. Stephen

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Tierney knows what Kodi Nikorima can offer. What New Zealand lacked last

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week was a kicking game and I think he might be the answer to that. Do

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you expect a different mentality? They showed their dominance this

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year. I tell you what, they got run ragged last week. What they will be

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looking to do is prove that they can play a full 80 minutes. I think they

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will be confrontational. England forwards need to start better. One

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of the issues with that comes you've got Tom Burgess, he has got no fear.

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He will run over the top of anything.

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I thought the game management was pure last week. -- bad last week.

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The game management, they front-loaded all their energy into

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getting in chasing, and the England side got off to a great start. The

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start is so important. International rugby, it is difficult to come back.

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England did that and finished very strongly. This is a big day for

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England. This is a moment to seize the day. This could allow them to

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win a series of the first time since 2007. I am feeling really lonely

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next to these two because obviously I want New Zealand to win. I hate to

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break it to you but I am not neutral either. Here come the teams.

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Please welcome New Zealand and England.

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As the teams come out, somewhere through the smoke and the fireworks,

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delivering the match ball is a member of the city of the Regiment,

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a single leg amputee who was injured during his second tour of Janus

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than, serving in the Army bomb disposal team. -- second tour of

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Afghanistan. Here she comes, Stewart Gemmill.

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-- here he comes. Delivering the match ball, please welcome Staff

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Sergeant Stewart Gemmill of the city of the Regiment. He is a single leg

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amputee who was injured during his second tour of Afghanistan whilst

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serving with the Army bomb disposal team.

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Could you please stand for the Last Post to remember the men and women

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he gave their lives in two world wars, and conflicts in Afghanistan

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and around the world. We would like to respect the sad passing of

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Chris, a grade one match official taken before he could fill his

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potential. APPLAUSE.

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Thank you ladies and gentlemen, could we ask you to remain standing

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for the national anthems. In a moment the national anthem of

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England, but first the national anthem of New Zealand.

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# E Ihow? Atua, O ng? iwi m?tou r?

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# ?ta whakarangona; Me aroha noa

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# Kia hua ko te pai; Kia tau t? atawhai;

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# Manaakitia mai Aotearoa

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# God of Nations at Thy feet, In the bonds of love we meet,

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# Hear our voices, we entreat, God defend our free land.

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# Guard Pacific's triple star From the shafts of strife and war,

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# Make her praises heard afar, God defend New Zealand. #

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# May the goodness bear fruit; May your kindness come;

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# Please give protection to Aotearoa

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# God of Nations at Thy feet, In the bonds of love we meet,

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# Hear our voices, we entreat, God defend our free land.

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# Guard Pacific's triple star From the shafts of strife and war,

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# Make her praises heard afar, God defend New Zealand. #

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# Happy and glorious, Long to reign over us,

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Time for the second test between England and New Zealand, from the

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stadium at the Queen Elizabeth Olympic Park, Bryan Noble, Jonathan

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Davies and Dave Woods. COMMENTATOR: Wonderful reflection in

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that minute's silence for those fallen heroes who have saved Britain

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and the Commonwealth. Also the rugby league referee Chris Leva Barra who

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sadly passed away this week, and his daughter, at the tragically young

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age of 27. Also Gary Carter, a Sun newspaper reporter in hospital this

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week in a coma. A tragic accident. We are willing him to get better.

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Nose shortage of pomp and ceremony, and emotion in the build-up of these

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two tests. -- no shortage. The game at Hull came with its light show,

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today reflection. It should be a terrific game today. Exactly the

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same for England as one week ago, no temptation to tinker from Steve

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McNamara. Look at the England bench, some real impact to come off there.

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A couple of tries last week from them. Late change for New Zealand.

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Kodi Nikorima coming in. His first start in international. Lewis Brown

:40:54.:40:59.

and Alex Glenn give the Kiwis extra experience on the bench. Change of

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referee, the Australian Gerard sat and the man in the middle today. We

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will see what different interpretation he puts on what

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should be a super game. A venue that has given British sport lots special

:41:17.:41:19.

memories over the last couple of years. The English rugby league team

:41:20.:41:26.

looking to join that we have what would be a series winning victory

:41:27.:41:30.

today. The Kiwis get the first touch of the ball. The first Ryback, met

:41:31.:41:37.

by that voracious English pack. All about the start for the English. We

:41:38.:41:45.

will see how physical they can be with the defensive line. They

:41:46.:41:52.

started slowly last week. They all realise that, that is why they went

:41:53.:41:58.

behind. A very impressive start is what we are looking for. As you

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said, the bench made a hell of an impact last week. That is what they

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will be looking for this week. Kodi Nikorima, he had Jon Wilkin 's in

:42:17.:42:20.

the warm up telling him how much pressure he would be under.

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Immediately England lining up to bring it three. Ryan Hall. The Kiwis

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will make the start of this game physical. Issac Luke kicking

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brilliantly out of dummy half to give the full with the chance to

:42:37.:42:40.

chase and show their physical play. It is important where England play

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the game. Cannot see the Kiwis changing their style with the

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off-load, the errors in the Kiwi half will be key. Midway inside

:42:52.:42:58.

their own half. Hodgson is away at dummy half. James Graham lingering

:42:59.:43:07.

alongside. Hardaker. Williams gets the kick away. This will fall into

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English hands. Still the sixth tackle. No Kiwi touch. Very

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intelligent kick. Little kick off does not bounce the English way. If

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he could have kicked about into in goal, there was a chance. Creating

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nothing from the bouncing ball. Whitehead gets it back, especially

:43:34.:43:39.

to kick, it was on. Good vision. Nowhere else to go, lovely kick. He

:43:40.:43:44.

could have caught that, more time than he realised. You two guys are

:43:45.:43:52.

investing more time and space than he had. He did well to get anything

:43:53.:43:57.

on the ball. Penalty New Zealand. Chance for them to settle their

:43:58.:44:01.

nerves. All or nothing as far as the Kiwis are concerned. They lose, it

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is series over. There is Luke, putting it out of play. Restarting

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on the halfway line. The first drive by Kevin Proctor. Now Issac Luke

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multiply quickly. The rain has stopped, by the way. Horrendous

:44:26.:44:30.

morning in London. The rain hammering down, the wind howling. It

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has settled for the kick-off of the match. Off-loaded temps. Harris was

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waiting, did not come his way. -- off-load attempted. It is the fourth

:44:45.:44:52.

tackle. Remember they made a fast start last week, the Kiwis. Looking

:44:53.:44:56.

for something similar here. Pushing and pushing. Moa held up, not the

:44:57.:45:07.

best pass from Blair. Hardaker taking no chances, putting it away

:45:08.:45:11.

for a drop out underneath the sticks. The start New Zealand

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wanted, good build-up, the kick batted away. Hardaker had to

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play-the-ball. Six more plays for the New Zealanders. I know the Kiwis

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got the ball from a penalty, discipline will be crucial today.

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The atmosphere will be interesting. It lacked a little bit at Hull last

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week. Again today, not on fire at the moment. Needs England to make a

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strong start to get this majority English crowd into their voices. New

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Zealand have camp at the moment. Luke swiftly moving it left. Jesse

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Bromwich that the head down, driving forward. Into England. Moa has

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missed. That was very well read. Brilliant from Kallum Watkins. Still

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a position to work from for the Kiwis. Luke is standing in waiting

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behind. Last tackle coming up. Kodi Nikorima putting the kick into the

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in goal area will stop this time England get the tap back on the 20.

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Not the best kick, little bit too much on it. EasyJet. England will be

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relieved to take it out. Interesting character Kodi Nikorima, he has a

:46:48.:46:55.

younger brother, who has signed for the Sydney Roosters, and it looks

:46:56.:47:00.

like rusty play for Australia! They qualify for both countries, he's a

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proud Kiwi commit his brother and Aussie! -- and his brother is an

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Aussie! England get the penalty. Too much anyone. What influence is the

:47:21.:47:25.

referee having so far? He will definitely try and keep the ruck

:47:26.:47:32.

clean. Adam Blair slowing it down, trying to buy team Daly time for the

:47:33.:47:43.

Kiwis to get back. The Kiwis conceding a lot of penalties last

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week. England looking to build this one this week. Into the 20.

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Hodgson, standing in waiting. Hell, they drive forward. Excellent work

:47:58.:48:04.

by the England starting front row. A little push after the tackle was

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completed. The Kiwis should know. One thing in the Australian Rugby

:48:09.:48:14.

league, they do play-the-ball a lot quicker. They should know that, the

:48:15.:48:20.

Kiwis. Yes, you can play the referee little bit. He has been consistent

:48:21.:48:25.

from the start. A conscious decision from the Kiwis, not leaving too many

:48:26.:48:32.

people on the floor. Moa not letting him play-the-ball. They may be

:48:33.:48:42.

prepared to this -- prepared to accept another six. Interesting.

:48:43.:48:49.

First time England have the attacking opportunity, they have

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gone for the two points. New Zealand conceded seven penalties last week,

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England only conceding two. Already the penalty can begin to rack up.

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Part parcel of why they the game. They were giving the penalties away

:49:07.:49:10.

in the second half. Also fumbling the ball. Not controlling it as well

:49:11.:49:25.

as they should. Knocking on. Roddick putting boot to ball, England have

:49:26.:49:30.

the early lead. Interesting reaction from the crowd when England elected

:49:31.:49:35.

to kick. They were hoping they were going to run the ball. Conservative

:49:36.:49:40.

ploy at this stage, is it the better approach? I think it is so important

:49:41.:49:46.

for the English Rugby league that they win this test. On the back of

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last week, when they have a dominant second-half, they need to clinch the

:49:51.:49:56.

series. 2007, eight years ago since England last won series, against the

:49:57.:50:05.

Kiwis, that was 3-0. A for what might happen in 2015? Whitehead,

:50:06.:50:12.

looking to build forward again. Only three players survive from that

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period Roby, over -- Sean O'Loughlin and Williams. We need to see some

:51:00.:51:07.

movement, for me. It is mourning this library than Olympic Stadium.

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-- it is more of an English library. They have come over, not much

:51:18.:51:20.

gametime, the advantage is with England. They are scampering

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forward, this is a good carry. But not in the end. He has had it

:51:30.:51:35.

stolen, the referee decides, from a distance. Jason Nightingale is a

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good player, nobody talks about him. Brilliant things in the back of the

:51:42.:51:45.

field. Practically winning them the four nations last year. Great

:51:46.:51:52.

player. Ball out of play for the tap restart for New Zealand. Getting

:51:53.:51:57.

closer again. Here is Harris, the big fella. Luke, 3 to his left, goes

:51:58.:52:08.

right, down the middle. Surging, trying to get the arm in. Whitehead

:52:09.:52:13.

making sure he cannot get the off-load away. A little step, reach.

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The English defence is desperate, just about good enough. Nikorima,

:52:20.:52:29.

has detect the high ball. John Bateman holds onto the tackle. Good

:52:30.:52:35.

play, they numbered up. Back to the middle they surge. Keeping it alive,

:52:36.:52:44.

flooding along the line. Touched by another English and, in the shape of

:52:45.:52:47.

Burgess. Another set of six for New Zealand. Burgess' intervention

:52:48.:52:54.

preventing the try scoring pass. That is where they are dangerous,

:52:55.:52:57.

the little off-load, creating the extra man. Very good defence by

:52:58.:53:02.

Kallum Watkins to get back onto his man.

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Fingertips taking it away from Nightingale. Joe Burgess, not from

:53:09.:53:20.

that family, of which so much publicity seems to have swelled in

:53:21.:53:24.

this last week month. Nikorima, cross the line. Nikorima in a dummy

:53:25.:53:37.

half. Jesse Bromwich, big surge. He is a handful. He has been wrapping

:53:38.:53:50.

it up for Melbourne in the NRL. Trying to run into the gap. He

:53:51.:53:56.

received it may have been there. " he. Penalty for New Zealand. --

:53:57.:54:06.

might have been there," he. They have had a view sets, yes, going for

:54:07.:54:16.

the two points. Scratch the chin for Stephen Kearney, the New Zealand

:54:17.:54:23.

coach. Hoping his side can level things up there. With 30 minutes

:54:24.:54:31.

played, very nearly. Issac Luke, the man who will take this penalty

:54:32.:54:39.

attempt. It needs firing up. It needs stroking by something. A

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little bit flat. He is off to Auckland, to join the

:54:42.:54:55.

New Zealand Warriors. After a very successful spell with Souths. He has

:54:56.:55:04.

had his disciplinary issues. He levels things up, all square with 13

:55:05.:55:14.

and a half minutes played. Not a real pattern emerging as of yet.

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Nobody on top. The forwards, maybe territory, the Kiwis Javier. All

:55:22.:55:25.

about the discipline, that will be key today. They are just feeling

:55:26.:55:32.

each other out, still. We may see that for another ten, 20 minutes.

:55:33.:55:36.

Both teams so conscious about getting a good start, frightened to

:55:37.:55:43.

express themselves. Here we go with the restart. It is sent high by

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Hardaker, good kick as well. Have them guessing. Nikorima catching it

:55:50.:55:58.

at the end. Brilliant kick. One thing I would like to see, targeting

:55:59.:56:03.

one of the forwards. The half-backs, they will have a better chance of

:56:04.:56:08.

carrying Daly catching. Ie saying the forwards cannot catch? No, but

:56:09.:56:16.

not as well as the half-backs. Good off-load by Adam Blair. Here is

:56:17.:56:24.

Jesse Bromwich. Out to Proctor. That is what they will do, they will

:56:25.:56:28.

off-load, that is why it is important if England can keep them

:56:29.:56:33.

in their own half, they will off-load, and look for the mistakes.

:56:34.:56:48.

The kick downfield by Peta Hiku, safely fielded. Pushback, by the

:56:49.:56:57.

arriving reinforcements of New Zealand defenders. Tony's down the

:56:58.:57:09.

touchline, keeping an eye on things. How conscious were you keeping a

:57:10.:57:13.

good start, not giving New Zealand a good start in this game? Always

:57:14.:57:18.

important to get a good start, get our forwards Kevin, kicking off the

:57:19.:57:22.

back of it. Not kicking as well as we would like. It is about kicking

:57:23.:57:27.

long when the weather is like this, completing your sets you can put New

:57:28.:57:32.

Zealand on the back foot, standing a chance of winning. Watson's Chase,

:57:33.:57:41.

involved again. He will go off. There is Matty Smith, who we just

:57:42.:57:45.

heard from. Almost lost by the Kiwis. Lovely little flick. Off they

:57:46.:57:53.

go again. Bateman is up there, good spotting. Out he comes. Mistake.

:57:54.:58:01.

Jesse Bromwich has lost it. Sharp pick-up by Watson, looking to get

:58:02.:58:05.

Whitehead going forward immediately. England were patient, staying up

:58:06.:58:10.

only off-loads. At some stage they will get some ball. Jesse Bromwich,

:58:11.:58:16.

trying to get the ball back, ricocheting off an England player.

:58:17.:58:21.

They get position. England encroaching inside New Zealand

:58:22.:58:26.

territory. Sean O'Loughlin, with the tough stuff down the middle. Here is

:58:27.:58:32.

Graham. Back it goes to Williams. Farrell coming on. Hammering it in.

:58:33.:58:40.

The situation is set from England to work from. Hill goes forward again.

:58:41.:58:47.

Final tackle coming up in this play. I will claim. Over kick. -- Plume

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I will claim. Over kick. --Plume Plume Sean O'Loughlin.

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Again, the defence doing extremely well. The speed is good. That is

:59:07.:59:15.

probably dominating at the moment, that is why it is Elizabeth flat.

:59:16.:59:20.

The flow is not working for the Kiwis because of that. Both defences

:59:21.:59:25.

more up to speed than last week, that is the key. We saw a few soft

:59:26.:59:30.

tries against England at the start of the game. They are clearly on

:59:31.:59:33.

their mettle. Suddenly the crowd has got the message, the atmosphere is

:59:34.:59:40.

livening up. Driven forward by Moa, good carry. It is the fifth tackle

:59:41.:59:48.

as he goes down. It comes off in England foot. Another set of six.

:59:49.:59:57.

Riding their luck. Five yards out, New Zealand have an opportunity to

:59:58.:00:06.

really hammer at the English line. They get another set, it is a

:00:07.:00:16.

penalty. Some discipline will be required by England in defence. They

:00:17.:00:22.

don't want the two. They fancy England may be rocking and rolling a

:00:23.:00:28.

little. Blair, unexpected recipient of that ball. Gaze back to Nikorima,

:00:29.:00:41.

skipping back. Here comes Harris. Searching left, but finding only

:00:42.:00:47.

white shirts will stop -- white shirts. Nikorima carrying it

:00:48.:00:55.

further. Proctor. English defenders doing well at the moment. Sweeping

:00:56.:01:00.

it back to Nightingale, searching for the centre ground, the winger.

:01:01.:01:05.

Last tackle for England to hold out. A series of defensive hard work.

:01:06.:01:11.

They come up with the ball again. Dropped on by James Graham, terrifc

:01:12.:01:17.

by Danish defence. Well done by Danish defence, clear your lines.

:01:18.:01:21.

Not the greatest of kicks. Trying to thread the needle. Could not get

:01:22.:01:23.

through. England can be very happy,

:01:24.:01:39.

possession and territory, 61%. That is for New Zealand and yet they have

:01:40.:01:43.

not looked like scoring a try. England will be very happy after 20

:01:44.:01:53.

minutes. There has been a change for New Zealand. I wonder how long until

:01:54.:01:59.

the props are rotated as well. There is a lot of defending they need to

:02:00.:02:06.

do. We'll let him run along as long as he can. Watch James Roby, on the

:02:07.:02:12.

back of a quick play, he can be devastating. Like last week, the

:02:13.:02:18.

impact was made from the bench, and I think he will be looking for the

:02:19.:02:31.

same again. That is a knock-on, is it? Martin Talbot has come on for

:02:32.:02:42.

New Zealand. Off he goes with that magic footwork. I think the Kiwis

:02:43.:02:54.

are very lateral. England are coping comfortably. Spun away into space,

:02:55.:03:04.

but a great recovery. Must be running close to empty at the

:03:05.:03:10.

moment. Pushing and pushing. England's defenders are pushing

:03:11.:03:16.

back. On the sidelines you can see Burgess. New Zealand are throwing

:03:17.:03:25.

everything at this English line. There has been a tangle in the

:03:26.:03:30.

favour of England. Kodi Nikorima with the pass. Another set of six.

:03:31.:03:37.

It will be New Zealand with the chance. England are under the cosh.

:03:38.:03:44.

They will need to work hard. They are at sixes and sevens. This

:03:45.:03:54.

deflection means it is a defensive scrum for England. You cannot

:03:55.:03:59.

interchange in the scrum and they will not want to interchange whilst

:04:00.:04:06.

England are defending like this. They will need to run on empty

:04:07.:04:15.

little bit longer. They need to put some pressure on in that half. Here

:04:16.:04:28.

comes another wave of black to test resolve. England will need to be

:04:29.:04:41.

careful. James Roby came from a long way back to get that. He gets it

:04:42.:04:51.

away. Just dragged down. How many tackles to go? Another drive by

:04:52.:05:05.

Harris. Big effort by him but an even bigger effort by the four

:05:06.:05:11.

players in white. Will they find a way through this time? They will

:05:12.:05:18.

not. The ball is dropped and England survive.

:05:19.:05:28.

Kiwis bashing at the door, going Route one. Trying to release a

:05:29.:05:50.

player. Great effort. They will be very happy with that. Brilliant

:05:51.:06:05.

penalty. We saw him trudging along the sideline. That means Burgess is

:06:06.:06:29.

on. The tenacity we have shown in defence has been absolutely

:06:30.:06:34.

brilliant. You can sense that. I am concerned about the energy, they

:06:35.:06:39.

have taken a lot out of them. But let us see what he can do. This

:06:40.:06:48.

could get interesting. This could be a big moment, psychological blow.

:06:49.:07:00.

There has been a slip and suddenly the traffic is going the other way.

:07:01.:07:15.

They want to get on with it. England thought they were getting a

:07:16.:07:32.

reprieve. Little bit of the execution from England. He has a

:07:33.:07:40.

little ambled forward to see what he might find. Kiwis look more

:07:41.:07:53.

individual. They have still got a tackle in the tank. This is the last

:07:54.:08:03.

one coming up now. Jordan Kahu spinning it to Kodi Nikorima. He can

:08:04.:08:28.

take it as quick as he likes. Usually comes towards the halfway

:08:29.:08:48.

line. I would attempt to describe it as mouse but at the moment...

:08:49.:09:06.

Communication was good leader. You can see that in New Zealand are

:09:07.:09:12.

utterly dominating in both respects. That is the problem. This is the end

:09:13.:09:21.

of this half, but also in the next half. Defensively, they have been

:09:22.:09:32.

awesome. Issac Luke is such an important player for that New

:09:33.:09:35.

Zealand side. It cannot be overestimated. Getting away with

:09:36.:10:09.

murder. He is not happy. He has got it wrong. There we are. All up

:10:10.:10:25.

there, big effort. This is what happens when the other side has the

:10:26.:10:29.

ball more often. Testing out the resolve of that New Zealand line. He

:10:30.:10:37.

is carrying well. Has had a great couple of seasons. Spinning it back.

:10:38.:10:52.

Alp they come towards Williams. England look more organised and

:10:53.:11:03.

fluent. It is more individual play from the Kiwis. Just stepping away.

:11:04.:11:25.

Might be the best thing since anybody else played in that

:11:26.:11:30.

position. It is the nature of the game, it is very forward orientated.

:11:31.:11:35.

They are still testing each other out after 40 minutes. Steve McNamara

:11:36.:11:50.

knows all about the danger he poses. Joe Burgess, on his own line. It is

:11:51.:11:55.

a great chase by New Zealand. Really good chase.

:11:56.:12:09.

That is Bateman. They have been under the cosh. That penalty will

:12:10.:12:38.

give him a full set. I think they have far more cohesion. This would

:12:39.:12:50.

be a great opportunity. Don't forget on the red button, you can get the

:12:51.:12:56.

forum afterwards. Once this match has finished. That is a solid drive,

:12:57.:13:06.

very sound effort by him. This is the Kiwis back another yard. This is

:13:07.:13:17.

Tom Burgess. England striding closer and closer. Sean O'Loughlin... Very

:13:18.:13:35.

nearly made short work of the Kiwi defenders, but they did well to hang

:13:36.:13:38.

on. But England have got the numbers.

:13:39.:13:42.

He puts the kick in. It is Tohu Harris who gets there first.

:13:43.:13:57.

Adam Blair was loitering behind the line.

:13:58.:14:19.

Just had the cheque. There is the knock-on. What a big moment this is

:14:20.:14:35.

in the game, seven minutes of the half remaining. England with six

:14:36.:14:40.

tackles to pummel this New Zealand line. They have marshalled Kallum

:14:41.:14:48.

Watkins well. He is such a brilliant player. He plays it relatively

:14:49.:15:06.

quickly. He had two men on the outside and could not get the ball

:15:07.:15:18.

away. Needed to go wide. Making a name for himself.

:15:19.:15:23.

That is five tackles, and they have got that close. How much closer can

:15:24.:15:36.

they get. Desperation, fingernails... But he beat Tom

:15:37.:15:44.

Burgess. That is very good play by England. See how much they've got

:15:45.:15:57.

left in the tank. How much has Sam Burgess's time in rugby union served

:15:58.:16:01.

from well? He has come out of the spotlight and claim a place in this

:16:02.:16:07.

team. He was getting gametime along with his brother. They've got three

:16:08.:16:14.

of them again this year. I understand what you're saying and it

:16:15.:16:18.

is a fear, but I think he was getting plenty anyway. He has done

:16:19.:16:28.

an extremely good job today. I think England have got the Kiwis on the

:16:29.:16:34.

fringes. They need to keep their composure. He will cut in and almost

:16:35.:16:45.

cut through! Almost. Back again, across the line.

:16:46.:16:52.

That was a forward pass. Just overran. I've been impressed by this

:16:53.:17:07.

kid. He's done well. He is doing well, controlling the game. He is

:17:08.:17:16.

key. He is controlling the kicking game. Very solid. These days, there

:17:17.:17:32.

is a stellar start at St George. Trying to keep them inside their own

:17:33.:17:58.

half. They are experienced campaigners, they are making a

:17:59.:18:01.

conscious decision to stay strong throughout the game. We've not seen

:18:02.:18:05.

a drop-off when they've introduced people from the bench.

:18:06.:18:13.

Penalty for New Zealand. With a bit too much interference after the

:18:14.:18:27.

tackle was completed. So, a penalty. Just a shadow of the World

:18:28.:18:32.

Cup semifinal and the penalty given away by Burgess. Let us not linger

:18:33.:18:37.

long on that one. A few people will never get over that.

:18:38.:18:43.

The inside pass. Not for and picking at the moment.

:18:44.:18:56.

Was aiming to the referee. It was a shocker. Fantastic defence by

:18:57.:19:25.

England. A couple of times I thought they were over for the try but

:19:26.:19:30.

brilliant last ditch attempt before a dreadful kick. That was crucial.

:19:31.:19:39.

One opportunity. This game might just be about a

:19:40.:19:52.

missed tackle, one effort not quite there to break it up. If he holds

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his depth he can put one of the wingers over in the corner. They are

:20:05.:20:07.

doing their job and holding the midfield. It is like a chess match

:20:08.:20:28.

but all the pieces are kings. We need some football. The kicking game

:20:29.:20:42.

is important, just got to keep the game solid, try and cut out your

:20:43.:20:46.

mistakes. When an opportunity comes you take it. Can England give

:20:47.:21:04.

themselves a lead? Enough of a touch to convince the referee it was a

:21:05.:21:06.

knock-on. One chance for the Kiwis. Temporary absence of Issac Luke,

:21:07.:22:12.

standing on the sidelines at the moment. The referee shouting to make

:22:13.:22:27.

sure he was onside. Slowly but surely making decent ground here.

:22:28.:22:40.

This is going to go up in the air. Can he beat one? He's done a

:22:41.:22:43.

terrific job to get back in the field of play. It is a greasy ball,

:22:44.:22:59.

put it up in the air. I think England will take great confidence

:23:00.:23:11.

in this, they have held out Burma. The hooter sounds at the end of a

:23:12.:23:17.

tight and tense first half, just one penalty kick. There has been no

:23:18.:23:27.

tries in that opening 40 minutes. England just about having the

:23:28.:23:36.

advantage of that half. Absolute chess match, this. What will make

:23:37.:23:40.

the difference? The defence has been holding up rate. If we keep turning

:23:41.:23:47.

up, the points will come. Will the kicking game be key for you? Yes, if

:23:48.:23:52.

we can do that we will get the result. You dominated possession for

:23:53.:23:59.

much of that. Are you disappointed you cannot get over the line? Not

:24:00.:24:03.

really, we were trying to build something, we defended. Obviously we

:24:04.:24:16.

would like to get across. Thank you. Let's take a look at the stats from

:24:17.:24:24.

that first half. This is Rugby League, New Zealand with more

:24:25.:24:32.

possession and territory. There are nine penalties. Is this flat? Yellow

:24:33.:24:49.

mac I am quite enjoying it. It is very physical. We spoke about how it

:24:50.:24:59.

was to be a physical encounter. The speed of the game has changed for

:25:00.:25:06.

England. They brought to my players on and it kicked it up another

:25:07.:25:09.

level. They've got to deal with it in the second half. I would

:25:10.:25:16.

disagree, I don't think it has been hugely physical. The game has needed

:25:17.:25:26.

one of those big men to kick-start the game. Both sides have been

:25:27.:25:30.

conservative, they have played possession, statistics, all of these

:25:31.:25:35.

things, ultimately, both sides are quite toothless. From New Zealand

:25:36.:25:44.

point of view, thrown everything at the England line and England need to

:25:45.:25:53.

dig in. You've got to commend both sets of defences. You can see where

:25:54.:25:59.

the emphasis has been on defending the line and being committed. It has

:26:00.:26:09.

been a drab affair. Would you agree with Sue at home who says the match

:26:10.:26:17.

could do with a bit of beef. Two you've got to agitate them. I like

:26:18.:26:24.

to see some emotion and fire in the belly, but... I think both teams

:26:25.:26:32.

look nervous. There are showing one another respect and they know what

:26:33.:26:37.

they can offer. New Zealand saw exactly what they can throw at them.

:26:38.:26:41.

That is why you're seeing a more conservative approach. Are all the

:26:42.:26:46.

talk about how much that has been an enjoyable first 40 minutes or not,

:26:47.:26:52.

the defence for England deserves a lot of praise. Yes, they had a lot

:26:53.:27:06.

of opportunities. Did not do that once, they did it twice. Another

:27:07.:27:11.

example here. Showing his athletic ability. He trusts his athletic

:27:12.:27:23.

ability. What we are seeing from him, he is one of the most difficult

:27:24.:27:32.

positions to defend in. This is showing England's willingness to

:27:33.:27:35.

stick together. I know for a fact they've actually worked very hard on

:27:36.:27:46.

these. England really turned up for this one. England have not had many

:27:47.:27:58.

blips. It is difficult to break that defence down. To break that defends

:27:59.:28:05.

down unique smart players who can create space. If I am brutally

:28:06.:28:09.

honest, they have not been able to create space. England struggled in

:28:10.:28:22.

that department as well. They could go north a little bit more. They are

:28:23.:28:31.

running laterally. On the flip side, England are creating a lot of space

:28:32.:28:36.

on the right hand side. They have drawn a lot of players at him, he's

:28:37.:28:44.

needed to do a lot of defending. England are finding their space. The

:28:45.:28:53.

England players might be taking on the messages, but as the guys have

:28:54.:28:59.

alluded to, the defence of work will have taken it out of them. I agree

:29:00.:29:04.

with you. That will have sapped some of the energy. We spoke about the

:29:05.:29:10.

bench coming on and being strong. They've got the depth and quality to

:29:11.:29:14.

manage that and come out and play well in the second half. England

:29:15.:29:18.

came out in the second half, had a lot of energy and were focused. If

:29:19.:29:27.

New Zealand kicked better could they be ahead? The kicking game from New

:29:28.:29:41.

Zealand was shambolic. We were chatting and Jamie Peacock made a

:29:42.:29:48.

point. They never come up with kicks as bad as this. England's kicking

:29:49.:29:59.

game was not great but this was lacking a lot. There was no clear

:30:00.:30:08.

vision. That has been identified as a problem. One of the issues, they

:30:09.:30:15.

have experience and time on the ball. Those special players, looking

:30:16.:30:21.

at building more pressure. At this level, six tackles at the

:30:22.:30:34.

goal line is not enough. That is what you need to do, kicked well,

:30:35.:30:40.

make sure six becomes 12, becomes 18 and you get your try. England's best

:30:41.:30:46.

chances have come from kicks? England's kicking game was not

:30:47.:30:55.

great. Thanks further. -- thanks for that. Let's not sugar-coat that.

:30:56.:31:03.

They created chances through wayward kicks. Williams puts up and nothing

:31:04.:31:08.

kick, but in the unstructured part of the game, the any period which

:31:09.:31:18.

was, England looked dangerous. For me, Robbie made a smart point, both

:31:19.:31:24.

sides were a bit too lateral with the ball. James Roby kicking out a

:31:25.:31:33.

dummy half, the best chances. A marked difference between the two

:31:34.:31:37.

attacking styles, England moving the big attacking pack around, England

:31:38.:31:43.

expending energy, even though they have been defending their line a

:31:44.:31:47.

lot, very direct, not had to move the lot. The fact that the New

:31:48.:31:54.

Zealand pack are having to go from one side of the field to the other

:31:55.:31:57.

means they are burning up more energy than England, even though ...

:31:58.:32:09.

You think more could have been taken out of the Kiwi defence because of

:32:10.:32:13.

that? They're setting up the play, moving it well. New Zealand picking

:32:14.:32:19.

up the lead runner every time. They may change the game plan in the

:32:20.:32:23.

second half, putting a guy in front of the England defence. I think the

:32:24.:32:29.

New Zealand strength is the off-loading game. It is the chase

:32:30.:32:34.

between the forwards, they come up with the off-load. That is where

:32:35.:32:39.

England need to defend well. The interplay between the forwards,

:32:40.:32:43.

bending the line, allowing the off-load. You can only get two

:32:44.:32:47.

defenders in utmost, that is where they come in. The pass to the

:32:48.:32:53.

off-load. Your strength is the weakness in sport. Off-loading the

:32:54.:32:57.

ball in contact is also the weakness. Two or three errors,

:32:58.:33:04.

gifting possession to England. I agree with JP, I cannot see this New

:33:05.:33:10.

Zealand side breaking England down anywhere other than off-loading the

:33:11.:33:12.

ball and speeding it up. Structure will not work for them. They have a

:33:13.:33:20.

big pass play at right, it is the off-loads, off-the-cuff that will

:33:21.:33:25.

break England down. They have guys who are amazing on their feet, you

:33:26.:33:29.

can find the outside players providing they keep their shape. Do

:33:30.:33:34.

you accept that in sport. If something is your strength,

:33:35.:33:38.

sometimes it will not come off and struggle? You adapt your started

:33:39.:33:46.

super personnel. If you are tired, or whatever game you play, you

:33:47.:33:51.

revert to a style you have always had. BBQ we forwards won to off-load

:33:52.:33:56.

the ball, they have done it all their lives. If they get the

:33:57.:34:01.

opportunity they will do it. The reason they have been strong over

:34:02.:34:05.

the years is the off-loading game. We saw last week they fell in a hole

:34:06.:34:09.

at the end of the game, I don't think they have got any theatre this

:34:10.:34:14.

week. At the Rhinos, we have the emphasis on passing and off-loading.

:34:15.:34:19.

But you always need to defend. You have to be committed to defend. That

:34:20.:34:23.

is what we did not see from the Kiwis last week. The double edge of

:34:24.:34:28.

the sword, although you can score points, you need to be committed and

:34:29.:34:33.

make the tackle. We have had an awful lot of correspondence about

:34:34.:34:39.

this. Paul Walsh, Danny Lomax, Matt O'Connor, saying the way the

:34:40.:34:44.

refereeing is going, a lot of penalties around the ruck, could see

:34:45.:34:49.

someone go. Also affecting the flow of the game. Part parcel of the two

:34:50.:34:55.

teams being nervous, trying to control the speed of the ruck,

:34:56.:34:59.

wanting the energy reserves to win the game. It is 2-2, I reckon this

:35:00.:35:06.

game will go to the wire, a game of attrition, and he will have the most

:35:07.:35:09.

Jews in the tank come the last test minutes. -- ten minutes. This is a

:35:10.:35:17.

Test match, the referee 's should be talking to the players, saying he is

:35:18.:35:21.

scrutinising the ruck, make it quick. Instead of everybody being

:35:22.:35:26.

caught out in the game. Nine penalties have contributed to why

:35:27.:35:34.

the game is dull. They should be selling our sport, sometimes... Nine

:35:35.:35:40.

penalties and one half. That is too many. Thank you for the moment. As

:35:41.:35:46.

I'm sure you are aware, watching this afternoon, a sad week for the

:35:47.:35:51.

Rugby league family. The passing of two individuals who played a big

:35:52.:36:08.

part in it. The young referee Chris leather -- Leatherbarrow, we also

:36:09.:36:27.

lost Colin Welland, writer, scriptwriter, he was part of the BBC

:36:28.:36:31.

Challenge Cup coverage, including when he received access all areas.

:36:32.:36:36.

For any rugby league fan to be standing in the tunnel is marvellous

:36:37.:36:40.

enough. I can hear the crowds cheering for the kids. To be going

:36:41.:36:44.

into the dressing room is beyond my wildest dreams. A unique experience

:36:45.:36:51.

for you, as well. I will just not. I use medically insured? Can I come

:36:52.:36:58.

in? Last year you played a great game, like a force-fed five. I said,

:36:59.:37:11.

this guy can really play, he was standing. Every time I watch Leeds

:37:12.:37:20.

play you get on. Do you have an arrangement with said? I don't know.

:37:21.:37:32.

Last time Saint Helens won the cup, they had an old man's pack,

:37:33.:37:36.

everybody said they would get beaten because they are too old. You have

:37:37.:37:40.

had to replace them with some young players. Good players, we are

:37:41.:37:44.

confident they can win again for us not I once played in a side that

:37:45.:37:53.

lost 83-3 to Cowley. Newton grammar. You did something I always wanted to

:37:54.:37:57.

do, country rugby union and the rugby league player, never good

:37:58.:38:02.

enough. Always nice to do it. The best of luck lads come I hope the

:38:03.:38:06.

best team wins. I hope I will enjoy it as well. Colin Welland, sadly

:38:07.:38:15.

missed. We were shown more of that remarkable archive footage on the

:38:16.:38:18.

red button. Let's go to pitch side, Tanya. Ben Westwood, what was the

:38:19.:38:23.

mood in the dressing room at half-time? Very positive. New

:38:24.:38:27.

Zealand have come out and put pressure on our line. Defensively we

:38:28.:38:32.

have been fantastic. Pleasing to see. What will make a difference in

:38:33.:38:38.

the second half? I think we need to step up in our attacking. Once we

:38:39.:38:42.

have offended, we need to go forward, take them on, hopefully

:38:43.:38:47.

these big boys will get tired and we can run away like last week.

:38:48.:38:51.

Frustrating to be watching on, do you wish you were out there? Not

:38:52.:38:56.

nice, but mostly part of the squad, I love being around the boys.

:38:57.:39:00.

Although I would love to be playing. I am enjoying my time here.

:39:01.:39:05.

Hopefully next week we will see what happens. About to get back under

:39:06.:39:12.

way. Let's return to Jonathan, Brian and Dave Woods.

:39:13.:39:20.

COMMENTATOR: We need entertainment in the second half, tight and tense,

:39:21.:39:25.

a lot of attritional staff, tough defence from both sides. We could do

:39:26.:39:31.

with some star factor. I have picked up on what the boys were saying, in

:39:32.:39:36.

the half-time analysis. I think England have a chance to move the

:39:37.:39:42.

Kiwi team around in another way. Around the fringes, releasing

:39:43.:39:45.

Watkins and Hardaker, move them laterally before going forward. That

:39:46.:39:49.

will be part of the England's team thinking. It needs more expansion

:39:50.:39:55.

from one team to break the game up. Go forward first. Very lateral. A

:39:56.:40:02.

poor pass. That is what they have to do. I am convinced if they keep a

:40:03.:40:07.

bit of composure as Brian said, on the fringes, Hardaker holding his

:40:08.:40:17.

line of bit. Opportunities for them. Almost an apology by Tom verges, he

:40:18.:40:24.

knew it was forward. Fireworks night this week, we could do with some

:40:25.:40:31.

fireworks here this afternoon. It is 2-2 at the moment, with a Test

:40:32.:40:34.

series in the balance. England winning the first game at Hull last

:40:35.:40:41.

week. It would be their first Test series win in eight years, and that

:40:42.:40:46.

was against the Kiwis back in 2007. A luck at stake. -- a luck.

:40:47.:41:02.

Nikorima doesn't do with it. It has gone backwards, the Kiwis get away

:41:03.:41:13.

with it. A standing start for the Kiwis' front man. Let's see if the

:41:14.:41:22.

kick is better. Nikorima, on the sixth tackle, taking it to the line,

:41:23.:41:30.

the offload. Was it a knock-on? It is a reach by Kenny-Dowall. A big

:41:31.:41:37.

question mark hanging over this. He reckons a try. Having a look at the

:41:38.:41:46.

knock-on. Let's hear from our video referee team, James Child and Phil

:41:47.:41:51.

Bentham. We are checking for a knock-on on the offload. He is in

:41:52.:42:03.

there. Or backwards. The pick-up is caught, that is fine, play on.

:42:04.:42:10.

Everything looking towards a try. We go towards the grounding. The

:42:11.:42:19.

grounding is fine. We are happy that is a try. What looked like a fumble

:42:20.:42:29.

by Aris, turned out to be a sensational piece of handling. And

:42:30.:42:41.

it off to Shaun Kenny-Dowall. There was nothing young, they did not go

:42:42.:42:45.

for the kick, keeping the ball alive, brilliant skills to finish.

:42:46.:42:50.

Nikorima decides to have a punt, looking for the offload. What a

:42:51.:42:56.

catch by Harris. Shaun Kenny-Dowall stretches in. A bit of a soft start

:42:57.:43:02.

by England, the forward pass giving them possession. Great skill level

:43:03.:43:08.

from Paris. Simple finish for Shaun Kenny-Dowall. In the continued

:43:09.:43:17.

absence of Issac Luke, and our touchline team are on the case to

:43:18.:43:20.

find out if it is a problem for Issac Luke, or if it is permanent.

:43:21.:43:41.

Not a bad replacement ticket. Jordan Kahu. New Zealand lead 8-2. After

:43:42.:43:52.

brilliant defending in the first, New Zealand unlock the game.

:43:53.:43:54.

Brilliant handling by Harris, and the finish. The restart has been

:43:55.:43:59.

knocked on. Bateman has it for England. England on the attack

:44:00.:44:04.

straightaway. Great chase by England, little look. Six tackles

:44:05.:44:14.

from here. That was a 0 tackle. James Roby organising things. Five

:44:15.:44:22.

tries in his last two internationals. Williams with a

:44:23.:44:28.

short pass. Penalty for England underneath the sticks. They will not

:44:29.:44:34.

go FIFA here. They will carry on with a tap and test. Sean

:44:35.:44:40.

O'Loughlin. Widdop sashaying to the left. Sashaying inside. He has been

:44:41.:44:49.

held down. The referee says play on. Hardaker with the high ball.

:44:50.:44:59.

Burgess, close. Williams. Good if it by Jesse Bromwich. It is shrugged

:45:00.:45:07.

away by Ferres. England remain camped on the New Zealand line.

:45:08.:45:12.

Williams, rather telegraphing the step. The re-weighting in response.

:45:13.:45:20.

James Roby started. Still tackles in the bank. Farrell tried, and Widdop

:45:21.:45:32.

have knocked it on. England fancy the right-hand offence. They want to

:45:33.:45:38.

isolate Nikorima. They have not executed it properly, taking too

:45:39.:45:43.

many players forward. Get the ball to the fringes and have a look. They

:45:44.:45:48.

need to execute better than that. Tanya has some half-time

:45:49.:45:53.

information. Stephen Tierney telling his side they need 40 more minutes

:45:54.:45:57.

of commitment in defence, telling his side to keep it simple in

:45:58.:46:01.

attack, building up with faster balls to stretch England. Issac

:46:02.:46:07.

Luke, he was substituted, nothing wrong with him, just not brought

:46:08.:46:12.

back on. Steve McNamara said his team has been given the fence, but

:46:13.:46:16.

doing too much of it. The last them to be tidier in attack, feeling they

:46:17.:46:20.

are kicking too early, and the handling needs to be better.

:46:21.:46:26.

Nightingale, involving himself again. Two tackles gone. There is

:46:27.:46:34.

Issac Luke, poised and ready to come back imminently. The danger returned

:46:35.:46:44.

when he returns. Meantime, England look to keep the New Zealand

:46:45.:46:49.

advanced to a minimum. Brown out of dummy half. Not the best of balls.

:46:50.:47:01.

Knocked on. England get a bonus it. Not sure what they were trying to

:47:02.:47:06.

do. All coming across, easy for the English defence. Poor passing. This

:47:07.:47:21.

is still anyone's game. Up to some anti gravity a the scruff of the

:47:22.:47:25.

neck. Take it around the side of the field. Still Kallum Watkins and

:47:26.:47:31.

Hardaker, one-on-one, they have the opportunities. They have to create

:47:32.:47:37.

the opportunities. There is Bateman, held up. Burgess, trundling forward

:47:38.:47:48.

with great intent. Looking to play quickly again. Another family trait.

:47:49.:47:57.

Now with Bateman running into the shoulder. Don't want to do that too

:47:58.:47:58.

often. Williams unable to get away. John

:47:59.:48:13.

right, left and right again without any great advancement. England

:48:14.:48:20.

trying to punch a hole, finding themselves desperately close to the

:48:21.:48:26.

touchline. Just about kept in play. Sixth tackle, what can they conjure?

:48:27.:48:33.

Up it goes. A lot of Kiwis, Ryan Hall tries to knock it back. Play

:48:34.:48:38.

on, the referee says as the Kiwis have it in their hands. It has

:48:39.:48:43.

become really nervous, the Kiwis have their noses in front,

:48:44.:48:49.

understand what they need to do. Someone has to make a mistake,

:48:50.:48:52.

missed a tackle, it needs to be England that get the next score. If

:48:53.:48:58.

you feel everyone being sent nervous, England need to score next.

:48:59.:49:09.

-- so nervous. Momentarily there was an injury concern for New Zealand.

:49:10.:49:16.

Nikorima has been having treatment. Just behind the line coming back on.

:49:17.:49:29.

Does not look 100%. Hall doing his job efficiently. England trying to

:49:30.:49:36.

batter their way forward. Defending inside their own half. Bateman has

:49:37.:49:44.

plenty of grants and energy. England need more than that at the moment.

:49:45.:50:01.

Was that high? Looking to return the kick. England's offensive line moves

:50:02.:50:14.

up collectively. Nightingale. The red button forum after this

:50:15.:50:19.

programme, once we are fair, you carry on with the rugby league chat.

:50:20.:50:25.

Joining in as well. Next week may be the decider. As it stands, it may

:50:26.:50:33.

be. If you are looking for tickets, don't bother, absolute sell-out.

:50:34.:50:39.

That is a penalty for New Zealand. Do you think they will kick? I think

:50:40.:50:48.

it is too far for him. I do think he has the legs for that. If they get

:50:49.:50:57.

another try under their belts, puts them in a very commanding decision.

:50:58.:51:01.

They have dominated possession and territory. They must think this is

:51:02.:51:09.

the chance. Jesse Bromwich, down. Harris reaching, offering a real

:51:10.:51:20.

threat. They hang on, they think about spinning is wide. They are

:51:21.:51:25.

trying to isolate the English defenders. Great tackle. Brilliant

:51:26.:51:33.

step. Back to the middle it comes. The English line advancing quickly.

:51:34.:51:47.

Nikorima has lost it. He was in. What have you made of young Kodi

:51:48.:51:54.

Nikorima? He has looked dangerous. If he that, in the clear. He has

:51:55.:52:00.

added something. More threatening than a man he replaced. The speed

:52:01.:52:16.

has made it dangerous. James Roby. Inside the New Zealand half. Little

:52:17.:52:31.

kick, the defence in their face, led by Williams. It has become such a

:52:32.:52:40.

tense affair. Someone has to break it up. It is so tense. The New

:52:41.:52:59.

Zealanders just want to play in the right areas. Off-loading in the

:53:00.:53:08.

opposition half. Not trying anything in their own half. Good handling

:53:09.:53:13.

from the Kiwis. The ball is flicked back inside. Shaun Kenny-Dowall

:53:14.:53:22.

picks it up. No England hand. They comes the last tackle. What can they

:53:23.:53:33.

do from a? Burgess, prodigious leap. A good clearing run. Very good play

:53:34.:53:41.

by Burgess. To keep his concentration, go up early,

:53:42.:53:47.

brilliant take. Burgess and Watkins, would love to see them in harness

:53:48.:53:52.

attacking in the second half. England need to shift the ball.

:53:53.:54:00.

Still plenty of time, England trailing by a try and conversion.

:54:01.:54:11.

James Roby and Chris Hill making yards, it is coming from England. A

:54:12.:54:21.

scruffy kick. He had a 3-2 there, could have shifted it. New Zealand

:54:22.:54:27.

start again from their own half. Shaun Kenny-Dowall getting himself

:54:28.:54:34.

involved. It is very aptly scored today in this stadium, his father

:54:35.:54:39.

was a javelin gold medallist at the 2000 Paralympics. Another bit of a

:54:40.:54:46.

living history to add to that family. A cry of Kiwi going around

:54:47.:54:56.

the stadium from the New Zealand fans, they feel they are edging

:54:57.:55:04.

their side to victory. I think their side are looking more comfortable.

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Ryan Hall stepson. He beats Luke easily enough. He did what he needed

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to do, getting England moving forward again here. This is

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Hardaker. Tussle and tackle. Bateman has lost the ball in the collision.

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Good steel. You do get the feeling very often referees are tossing a

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coin on those sort of decisions. Came down in England's favour. I

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think he got the right call. Whitehead coming back on. Sean

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O'Loughlin going off. Here is Bateman. Include creating inside New

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Zealand's half. Plenty of time in the game for England. 25 minutes or

:56:09.:56:18.

so. New Zealand have slowed things right down. James Roby, now Chris

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Hill. Enterprising position to work from. It comes Watkins. Doing what

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he loved to do. Great off-load by Tim, Burgess in the corner. England

:56:43.:56:50.

are denied. Picked up by Hardaker. Tried down. Ten away. Suddenly the

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crowd find their boys. England's showing something, finding their

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rhythm. In example of what they need to do, go to the fringes, putting

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the Kiwi line under so much pressure. Widdop to Farrell. Chris

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Hall has got it away. In probably. Farrell can go no further. Keeping

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England in attacking possession. Chris Hill trying to push and push.

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Again slowish. Plenty of tackles left. The ball is kicked on, the

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referee says play on. It needed a bit of composure, they were

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panicking and rushing, England. They give the hard work, creating space.

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I would like to see Zak Hardaker taking the ball to the defensive

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line attracting defenders. He shifted defenders there.

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Nightingale, running away inside England's half. Look out quickly

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they have eaten at the yards, New Zealand, getting themselves inside

:58:16.:58:20.

the England half. That is a terrific kick from Issac Luke. Ryan Hall

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given no hope of getting there because of the chase. Jon Wilkin

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made a point, if you play against Australia, the kicking game is

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brilliant from the half-backs. First half was poor from the Kiwis, Issac

:58:36.:58:44.

Luke has put three in the second half, they have been spot on, the

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chase is good. The model is Cameron Smith, the Australian, when they are

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under pressure, he steps out, kicking the ball into the corner, 1

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metre from the try line, and the sideline, you look up there is a

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wall of green. Issac Luke has replicated that. The best way to do

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it. Just step one yard, no one knows, no one can drop back. But a

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good kick in. Not a bad job at the turn. -- bad job of a drop out

:59:17.:59:32.

return. Issac Luke operating a dummy half again, showing what a key

:59:33.:59:39.

figure he is for this New Zealand side. It takes the ball to the line,

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little off-load. Nikorima, back it goes. England again on their own

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line, having to survive only one more tackle in this set. Nikorima

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with a short pass, he delays the ball superbly well. Nikorima once

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more, it is a clearance kick from Widdop, that lacked authority. He

:00:07.:00:12.

took a risk, Jesse Bromwich all over him, I thought he was going to dive

:00:13.:00:15.

in the ball, in the end he does well, outstanding kick. The off-load

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kills England. Nikorima, and Jesse Bromwich with the Sidekick. Deft

:00:25.:00:35.

skills. It comes off his knee. I don't think he's in control of that!

:00:36.:01:36.

England are hanging on by their fingernails at the moment. He pushes

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through. How many times have England been in this position? Another

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little slight kick and another response, this time, from Watkins.

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The kicking game has vastly improved. They must've said they are

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wasting these opportunities. Second-half, they have upped the

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game on the kicking stakes. As it stands, it is going to a decider. I

:02:17.:02:28.

rather fancy that will be a noisy game. They've got to hang on. Here

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comes the drop out. It has taken on again. He plays it.

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Luke spends it back. England are teetering here. As he got it down?

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The referee is not sure. This is the guy who eventually

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attends to ground the ball. It is whether or not he gets it on the

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ground. That looks to me as if he has lost that. I cannot see that he

:04:26.:04:38.

has got a hand on the ball at that point. We are going, no try.

:04:39.:05:04.

It is almost a cheer of relief because that is the huge let off.

:05:05.:05:15.

He was hanging and dangling it out. If he goes for the line, I think he

:05:16.:05:25.

scores. Brilliant play to hold it up. Huge tackle in the scheme of

:05:26.:05:37.

things. How do they respond now? Has taken it almost to the halfway line

:05:38.:05:41.

with only a couple of tackles gone. This is Graham, looking to continue

:05:42.:05:45.

that good work. England needing some razzle-dazzle. Just kept hold of it.

:05:46.:06:00.

Very good. I would put this up in the air. Get the chasers onto the

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full-back. Shaun Kenny-Dowall underneath it. They've got to

:06:16.:06:29.

compete for that ball. Just to reinforce that, England need to

:06:30.:06:42.

compete. Every kick they put up needs to be a competition.

:06:43.:06:51.

Eventually, the cul-de-sac closing in around him. A lot of distance

:06:52.:07:03.

around it. That is a mistake England cannot afford. That is why he took

:07:04.:07:12.

the risk. It does not come off. It was not an advantage played.

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International rules. Kodi Nikorima is struggling. I think it is cramp.

:07:26.:07:43.

That is a little moment of advantage.

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He is clearly struggling. Click the red button after we finish. New

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Zealand are leading by a try and a goal. It can change so quickly. I

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would take it. The defence is so good. The clock is against England.

:08:26.:08:55.

England starting again from here. Kodi Nikorima again. Zak Hardaker

:08:56.:09:06.

have to look at Kodi Nikorima and try to isolate him. He has no gone

:09:07.:09:16.

up to the wing. He will go into the centre position and it is an

:09:17.:09:23.

opportunity to attack him. Has been glaring at Kodi Nikorima who has

:09:24.:09:32.

gone the other way. 13.5 minutes for England to rescue it. England

:09:33.:09:40.

pressing on the right-hand side. It is a risk too far. It has been a

:09:41.:09:47.

story of missed opportunities at times for England. You need to get

:09:48.:10:11.

the ball in here. This game is going to be won by someone on the

:10:12.:10:13.

backline. Sam Muller has come off. We were talking about Kodi Nikorima

:10:14.:10:39.

struggling. He has got cramp. Very much running repairs the moment.

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The Kiwis are just playing the numbers game and banging the ball

:10:50.:11:04.

down the field. England need to find something.

:11:05.:11:15.

One moment of brilliance, you want. Burgess can go the length. Just one

:11:16.:11:30.

piece of magic to create a little bit of space. New Zealand... 20

:11:31.:11:41.

metres from that England line. Penalty to New Zealand. This could

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be a punishing moment from England's point of view. How many

:11:51.:11:55.

penalties have we had? 14 penalties?

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There will be a delay here because he is getting treatment. The Kiwis

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came into this series with the deficit.

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Kodi Nikorima came here as a back-up. He will be desperate not to

:12:42.:12:51.

go off because there is not a lot of flair to replace him with.

:12:52.:13:07.

Here comes a penalty that might have just put it out of range for

:13:08.:13:18.

England. Send it all word. He's put it wide. They missed the try

:13:19.:13:27.

earlier, the door remains open for England. At this level, that is a

:13:28.:13:35.

bad mess. That is an easy kick and that is a badness. That should give

:13:36.:13:43.

England an incentive. The crowd find their voice again.

:13:44.:13:57.

I think I'm right in saying that if it is a draw, if England get a try

:13:58.:14:11.

here, it would still be given as England's win. England are a try and

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a goal away. Command, England. The referee is forced to stop the

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clock. This looks like a potentially match-winning kick, just wide.

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This emergence as a second, third nation began. Watching the team in

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black beating officially the best team in the world. England are

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running them close here. Brings it down the middle. That is a

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good carry. Trying to barge them away. Still going here. They've only

:15:47.:15:56.

one more tackle to go. James Graham! He scores the try. It has

:15:57.:16:02.

yet to be confirmed because the referee has put the square in the

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air. He thinks it was a try. Check the contact on James Graham. This

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could be massive because this could be a penalty try which would give

:16:18.:16:23.

England the opportunity for eight points. The first thing we need to

:16:24.:16:40.

look at is the offside position. Then we will come back to that

:16:41.:16:42.

grounding. We are happy with that. That is fine. If the ball on the

:16:43.:17:33.

floor? This might be the one. It looks as though there might have

:17:34.:17:34.

been some contact with the hand. At this point if there is no hand we

:17:35.:18:04.

are saying it is play on. We have to see what happens here.

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Some contact with the finger during that process. No try, 20 metres to

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restart. They are not going to like it. They don't like it. I think that

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is the right decision, without any shadow of the doubt. There is a

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comedy of errors. When he misses it, one of the Kiwi players, it gets in

:19:13.:19:25.

his way. I think it was the right call. It has gone through his hands

:19:26.:19:30.

and hit off his legs. Should have been England on the

:19:31.:19:50.

attack. There was no hint of foul play.

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Shrugs away the attentions. The winger is drawing some fuel out of

:20:17.:20:26.

the English tank. Gaining good yards.

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They are loading up the left-hand side. Kodi Nikorima hits it. It is

:20:38.:20:49.

play on. Kodi Nikorima will score the try on his full international

:20:50.:20:53.

debut, but the referee is not sure about that. I think he is short.

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That is the little bit of luck that you need.

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You've got to opportunities that should have resulted in tries. James

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Graham has got to fall on that, Kodi Nikorima has got to sliding earlier.

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They should have been scored. -- slide in earlier. England need to

:21:56.:22:02.

shape up. They've been given a retrieve. They've got to play with a

:22:03.:22:06.

little bit more ball movement. Route one is not working. Not the most

:22:07.:22:19.

memorable of Test matches in terms of razzle-dazzle but it could yet

:22:20.:22:25.

have a thrilling finish, with England chasing the game and the

:22:26.:22:47.

series. They want to keep them here. Sean O'Loughlin to Williams, to

:22:48.:22:48.

Watkins. Playing it quickly again. They are

:22:49.:23:12.

running it now. Nowhere to go, Bateman. That got him out of

:23:13.:23:35.

trouble. We have not seen the classic we would have hoped for but

:23:36.:23:39.

you've got to take your to both defences. It has been a terrific

:23:40.:23:45.

display. The Kiwis have improved massively. They are finding

:23:46.:23:56.

opportunities. Five minutes for England to get the series here.

:23:57.:24:28.

He was only a penalty kick away from making sure his side won this.

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Inside ball, testing the defence. He has lost the ball again. Just watch

:24:53.:25:25.

him losing it. He's had a massive influence on this game. His kicking

:25:26.:25:34.

was pinpoint. He has pulled the strings today of what will be a Kiwi

:25:35.:25:53.

win in four minutes. It is going to be a drop goal attempt and it has

:25:54.:26:01.

not gone over. The referee waits for confirmation and gets it. It is only

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worth one point. But it is also worth a victory as far as New

:26:07.:26:14.

Zealand are concerned. That is surely too far back. We are off to

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Wigan next week for a humdinger of a decider.

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2.5 minutes to go. Need to score here.

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That drop goal should have secured victory but still stretching his

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hamstrings. They came in the many thousands hoping for England to make

:27:16.:27:22.

history. It does not look like it will end up that way. England have

:27:23.:27:30.

not scored a try in this game and they would love to write that wrong.

:27:31.:27:57.

They can take their time with this drop out and England will have one

:27:58.:28:03.

more chance and that will not be enough. Yellow matter has been

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nothing to pick between the teams. Probably separated these teams. They

:28:14.:28:20.

have both concentrated on a little bit of attack. It is on the fringes.

:28:21.:28:32.

They've done their job, they've held the midfield, they've isolated them,

:28:33.:28:37.

they've done brilliantly. The defence have been awesome. England

:28:38.:28:53.

stand up, because since the opening minute of that last game, they went

:28:54.:28:58.

for a long time having only conceded one try. They've got to take

:28:59.:29:01.

something from that. England have not scored a try here. They want to

:29:02.:29:06.

light up London in the very last moments. He has pastored forward to

:29:07.:29:18.

himself. The Kiwi know if they can get the ball back from this it

:29:19.:29:27.

should see them over. They are spending a lot of time together,

:29:28.:29:32.

they have improved beyond all recognition. I still think England

:29:33.:29:41.

have some improvement in them. I think Jesse Bromwich, Kevin Proctor

:29:42.:29:48.

and Adam Blair have been good for the Kiwis. I think next week will be

:29:49.:29:58.

about who can attack the best. I would like to see backs into the

:29:59.:30:02.

game. Are brilliant runners. They've not been used as much as I would

:30:03.:30:14.

have liked. There is clearly not much between these teams. That is

:30:15.:30:19.

Test match football at the highest level. Can England create something?

:30:20.:30:52.

New Zealand have it back again. Still alive with one game to go. It

:30:53.:31:01.

will be decided in Wigan next week. England taking their capital

:31:02.:31:10.

punishment in London today. They have only conceded one but it is New

:31:11.:31:14.

Zealand who come out with the honours. The unlikeliest of

:31:15.:31:23.

scorelines. That is a reflection that the entertainment we have seen

:31:24.:31:29.

today, defence on top, and ultimately, New Zealand on top. One

:31:30.:31:41.

Test match each with one to go. In seven days this series will be

:31:42.:31:45.

decided. Not quite the spectacle the Rugby League community were hoping

:31:46.:31:55.

for today. This has been a pedigree performance. Congratulations, huge

:31:56.:32:07.

effort for your side. They let us down last week, credit to those

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boys. We turned up, keep turning up and played for 80 minutes. Very

:32:12.:32:20.

patient. Sometimes you get carried away. Can you seal it at Wigan?

:32:21.:32:30.

100%. Anything can happen. We will get ready for a big game. Let's

:32:31.:32:35.

bring in the England captain. Sean O'Loughlin. How frustrating was

:32:36.:32:43.

that? It was tough. That is what you expect from an international match.

:32:44.:32:48.

Both teams were going to be a lot better, they came out better this

:32:49.:32:51.

week. We did not handle it as well. Credit to them. We have work to do.

:32:52.:32:59.

Thank you. Very quickly, the man of the match. Here is your champagne,

:33:00.:33:10.

Issac Luke. How tough was that? Had. The boys did well. It seemed those

:33:11.:33:15.

little touches got you over the line. Our boys laid the platform and

:33:16.:33:19.

got us going forward. And Many congratulations. That is

:33:20.:33:32.

what say hello to my wife, Michaela, and my babies, Atticus and

:33:33.:33:44.

Cruise. New Zealand worked on a few things. Retention of the ball,

:33:45.:33:50.

making sure they controlled the ruck, they did very well. They

:33:51.:33:56.

frustrated England. Able to play for the full 80 minutes, which they did

:33:57.:34:00.

not last week. Very quickly, it England have to improve defensively

:34:01.:34:05.

next week? They did not look slick with the ball, cohesive. Probably

:34:06.:34:11.

tactically naive in the second half, you need to do more with the ball.

:34:12.:34:18.

Need to work on that. The defence was outstanding, one try conceded.

:34:19.:34:24.

Thank you to Jamie, Robbie, Jon Wilkin for the moment on BBC One.

:34:25.:34:29.

All the analysis, plenty of reaction, we will talk Sam Burgess,

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on the red button. We will see you in Wigan, next Saturday lunchtime,

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for the decider. Thanks.

:34:40.:34:59.

A drop goal attempt, he has won over. We are after Wigan next week,

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for a funding gap of a decider.

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