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Sixth Round: Castleford v St Helens

Mark Chapman presents live coverage of the Challenge Cup sixth-round clash between Castleford and St Helens. Dave Woods provides the commentary.


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The 120th year of the rugby league Challenge Cup. I could list the

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great names, the players, the clubs, the legends.

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I could talk about community, the togetherness, a sense of pride. I

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could talk about tough, rock-hard. I could talk about the sheer undoubted

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talent. Goodness, gracious me! He's scored! That is one sensational try.

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Listen to the noise! But I'm not going to because you know it.

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Welcome to Yorkshire for our coverage of the 2017 Challenge Cup.

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I try to get the directed to turn the camera towards Lancashire but

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she's from Yorkshire and she is flatly refusing. It could be a long

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old season. Anyhow, we have two of the great names in the sport to kick

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off our coverage. Castleford against St Helens in the sixth round of the

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Ladbrokes Challenge Cup from here, the Jungle. We will have all of the

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build-up to the match and the highlights of the games that have

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taken place so far this weekend in the cup, and we will have analysis

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of England's victory over Samoa last week. And we want you to get

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involved. Hashtag BBCRL for your comments across the social media

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platforms. This is how your coverage looks across the BBC this weekend.

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We will look forward to the World Cup from 4:30pm as well as bringing

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you interviews and reaction to today's game.

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I am delighted to say I have got three of the game's greats alongside

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me. Sam Tomkins from Wigan, former Leeds and England player, and Brian

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Noble, former coach of Great Britain. And does it feel like this

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tournament is particularly wide open this year? I think so. Just looking

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at the games from the start of the season, there have been shocks all

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over the place. Just looking at Huddersfield getting beaten by

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Swinton, it is wide open. It is good for everyone that any team could win

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it. And we say this most years, but it is important because we hope to

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have new viewers all the time, but unlike cup competitions in other

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sports, this is a priority for Super League clubs, for clubs across rugby

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league. It is not just about winning the Super League title. Very much

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though. It's true that comes with this competition is over 100 years

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old and it means everything to every club. For the leather gloves, it is

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like increasing revenue, like the FA Cup in football, but it is an

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opportunity for upsets. -- for the lower clubs. I don't know if we will

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get one today. The game today is mouthwatering. A humdinger. I don't

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think we could ask for a better game. To me and teams playing a

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brilliant brand of football. We will talk about the field than amides

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which are massively important today in relation to Castleford. -- the

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field dynamics. They have been up and down a bit but they can be the

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breathtaking team we talk about on their day. We will fight with the PA

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system at the Jungle for the next few minutes and we will also bring

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you the following. They have scored 83 ties so far this season, so we

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will show you just how Castleford do it. And how have they become the

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best of British? We will ask Darryl Powell the secret of their success.

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St Helens used to be number one by 2017 has been a nightmare. We will

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talk to three of their legends to find out what has gone wrong and how

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they put it right. And we will have highlights from some of the sixth

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round matches already played, including Hull who started their

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defence against Catalan last night. We will get into all things

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Challenge Cup in just a moment but first international rugby league,

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with England's World Cup starting in the autumn. Their preparations began

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last weekend when they took on Samoa.

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This is a big, early chance for England. Tackle number four. Back

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towards the posts. They probably could have done with more and they

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get more. Second phase. Hobson, look out. Ryan Hall doesn't need much

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instruction! He finds his way to the try line. That is an easy one. The

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32nd of his test career. Now Hodgson. For Gale. This is a big

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moment for Stefan Ratchford. He scores a try in his England jumper

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proudly worn. Stefan Ratchford goes over. Wigan born, over 200 games,

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and a try for England. This is their best chance to bring the crowd back

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into the contest. Slow playing the ball. Trying the power play and

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direct and he scored! And as he did for Samoa in 2013, he has got

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something going here. Now Laughlin unloading. Back to

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Brown. What a pass. To Gale. What the finish. The referee collided

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with a cover for Samoa. Hodgson has scored! England have their third

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try. They looked anxious. They lose all shape here. They all want to

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have a crack. They are trying their hearts out but it is not all that

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smart. He runs around Gale to score! Last tackle. England clearing

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wreckage. For which to James Graham. -- forward to James Graham. They are

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going to say try to James Graham. Brown has thrown it to James Graham

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to basically fall over the try line. If England was to score in the final

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minute, that would be some tasty icing on the cake. Hill with the

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ball. They are looking a bit dispirited, the Samoans. Heads down

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on the bench. Gale with the ball. Brown is going to get. And he does

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know how to score! Just like the first try that went to the left

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wing, the last one goes to the right wing. MacGillivray scores and the

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icing is most definitely on the cake now. Kevin, what should we take out

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of that win and that performance from an English perspective? I just

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think we should be massively positive. Only a few months out from

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the World Cup now. We should not underestimate how tough challenge

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that was for the English blokes to go out there in under a week and

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play against a full Samoa side, who are big, powerful and physical.

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Horrible out there. But they did a terrific job. Our performance was

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talk and cheese from the for nations. They looked composed. I

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don't think it was a good performance from anybody, so a

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massive tick. What have the guys that you have spoken to about that

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performance fed back to you? They have said the full week was positive

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and as Kevin touched on, we look good for it and solid for the win.

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Samoa are tough side and we looked dominant for the full 80 minutes and

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that is what we have lacked in internationals before. We have

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dominated and played well for 60 or 70 minutes and then lacked

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composure. But against Samoa, we looked in control for the full 80

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and things clicked and it couldn't have been better prep. I can't

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remember a better England performance on foreign soil. I would

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have to go right back until that Great Britain side in 2006 which got

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that win. I think it is right up there with that one. Wow. I agree

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with the boys on the positivity. I studied the Samoan team and I

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thought they had a game on their hands. To travel 30,000 miles and

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pull of that kind of performance shows an element of composure and

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patients going on. To put the cold on these two, my worry is... That is

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why we employ you, Brian, to dampen down the broadcasters! Being healthy

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at the end of the year and being fresh is very important when it

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comes to the World Cup. My worry was in the middle of the season when we

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have two weekend blocks on where players are playing in the Super

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League in a four day period, with mental pressures that puts on you,

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it is difficult and challenging. For example we had three people pull out

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and some people were not available through injury in the R.N. L. The

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final line-up might be the same but the essence of the squad will have

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been given more discipline in terms of moving forward and what Wayne

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expect in the World Cup. As an exercise, I probably got something

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is wrong, and it was worthwhile. Knowing how they performed and how

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they did, that has actually got rid of your doubts. Not entirely. I

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think you have got to pick inform players at the end of the season,

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players who are mentally fresh. And we won't know how it has affected

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them in the long term. Another double-digit weekend. I am an

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unbelievable fan of international football and the England team and

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they are doing well and it is positive. If two brays like this are

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telling me there are positive noises, they played some good stuff,

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then it has got to be worthwhile and I will take it on the chin but I

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just hope they recognise it by not be the final line because there are

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lots of good players when you pick an England team and form and help is

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essential. Hashtag BBCRL if you want to get in touch. This will form a

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big part of our discussion from 4:30pm on the red button. You are

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one of the players missing at the moment. How are you and what is the

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latest? I am coming on pretty well. I had the metalwork in my foot a few

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weeks ago and since that has gone I am running more freely. I have been

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running all week. About one month off now. I did want to push it.

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Having to hold back. It must be quite hard because it is a World Cup

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year. And the competition for places is fierce. That in patients must be

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hard for you to control, is it? Definitely. -- that impatience must

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be hard for you to control. I want to put on that jersey like I have

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done many times before. That is at the front of my mind when I am in

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training having a tough day, or in rehab doing things I don't want to

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be doing, at the end of the year I want to do everything I can and at

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the end of the season though I did everything I could to get my place.

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We have asked Brian and Sam to pick their squads for the opening game of

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the World Cup, so we will find out later whether Sam has put himself in

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the squad. In the starting 13 maybe for that first game of the World

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Cup! We can bring our attention back to the Challenge Cup, Castle but

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against St Helens is the game we are at which kicks off at 2:30pm. But

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games have been played so far. Let's round up the best of the action.

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Round 6 kicked off on Thursday night as Bellaston hosted Halifax. Heaton

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put Halifax ahead but the lead only lasted four minutes at Keele Carlyle

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spun out of a tackle to set up Davis. A brilliant finish from Scott

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Turner and then Anthony Thackery's drop goal gave the hosts a 7-point

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lead. Turner cleverly put the ball in the corner for his second try.

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Zachary kicked his second drop goal of the night before Josh

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Hardcastle's try Hull opened this one with a free-flowing move. Then

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this combination set up Griffin. The odds and Scott Taylor all went over

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this great work from Watts and Kelly. There was a 28 point lead at

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the break. Michaels dived over acrobatically in the corner for his

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third try. And collected short pass gave this player his second try in

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Hull colours. Thompson went over. Sean scored two late tries on his

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100th career appearance. And Connor grabbed a try to complete the round.

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This was the most Matic moment of last season, the million pounds drop

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goal that sent Hull Kingston Rovers down at the expense of Salford. The

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men from East Yorkshire had revenge on their minds last night and there

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couldn't have made a better start. Sean Howden from 60 metres after a

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scrum and followed that up by racing through unchallenged from ten metres

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to help the visitors opened up a 12 point lead. Ryan Allen went over

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just as the half-time was coming to close to reduce the deficit to eight

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points. Salford made a dream start after the break and the lead as they

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ran in under the posts, then followed by crisp riding going down

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the short side to score. Criswell and then knocked down a high kick to

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secure the victory was offered. -- to secure the victory for Salford.

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Confirmation of who has gone through so far. Wakefield thrashed Dewsbury

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last night as well. Those are the size through to the next round. Over

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this weekend, the games that you will be across involved cattle herd

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Wigan -- Castlford and Wigan. Now let's put this game into context for

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you as regards the Super League table. Castleford top, scoring tries

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for fun. Saints have not had a great season. They are mid table and

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fighting to qualify for the super eight. Now the team news for today's

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gain from Tanya. Castleford boast the two leading try scorer is in the

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Super League. They line up like this, with Zak Hardaker starting at

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full-back and playing in the centre for England. Jake Webster in the

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centre is fresh from signing a new one year deal. The big team news for

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Castleford is Tom Holmes starting alongside Luke Gale in the halves.

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Upfront, the evergreen Andy Lynch, their oldest player in the Super

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League, playing up front alongside MacShane. And look at the Jesse

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Sene-Lefao. There is no place in the 17 for Rangi Chase. As for St

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Helens, they welcome back Mark Percival and add a Montaly who

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travelled to Australia but did not play for England. -- ad while Alex

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Walmsley. James Roby is starting at hooker.

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They have captain Jon Wilkin on the bench. He pulled out at the last

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minute in last week's warm up and he is hoping to start the game today

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but he is heavily strapped up. Thank you very much, Tanya. Jon

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Wilkin leading things out for their warm up. We have shown you where

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they are in the table. Not a good season for them. There is a new head

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coach on the way as well. Our rugby league correspondent has been trying

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to find out what the problems are at the club.

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For 24 years there has been a constant around these parts. He grew

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up at the club in its most successful period. He came to define

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what the shirt was all about. Canning! -- Kieran Cunningham. When

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he was appointed head coach at St Helens in 2014 he seemed the obvious

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choice to take the club back to glory, carved in his own image. But

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a month ago the hometown hero was sacked. So what has gone wrong and

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how can St Helens get back to those glory days? When you first walked

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into that dressing room, were you told this is how we play at St

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Helens? I was told that we win and they expect nothing less. I joined

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Saints because of what we did on the field because of the players that

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were there. They were a successful club and I wanted to be part of

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that. One thing when I came to St Helens was that my skill had to be

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the best it could be because of the people in the squad. The people in

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the squad had high standards for my skill. I had to improve or I was

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gone and I think we need to get back to that. This seems at the moment

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seem to have gone along with quite a few clubs in the game, so that the

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game appears programmed from the first minute to the last. Almost the

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situation whereby we have lines drawn on a pitch and you stand there

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and you run there and in the 25th minute you take the bullpen. -- you

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take the ball then. Is a starter missing from the squad? Some of the

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Australians that I have played with at St Helens, whether we can still

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attract those players with the budgets that we have and the salary

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caps? I think the game has changed in that respect. Teams are having to

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bring players through. Ready or not. At the moment there is myself and

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James Roby and Matty Smith who have been to Wembley with Wigan but are

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not a lot of the other lads have had that connection with the cup and I

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think we need more winners. Either we win this trophy this year or we

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recruit more winners in. I think that is fundamental to improving

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standards. I think they need some more additions. A footballer, a

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ball-handling forward of the old-fashioned type, and I would also

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say in the back division as well, somebody with pace. There is talent

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there. Don't write them off. If they want, they can play rugby. The new

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coach. Will you have spoken with him or has anybody before Saturday? I

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think we have had some feedback indirectly. I think he is going to

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be a huge part of turning this club around. We are looking forward to

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having a new set of eyes on us because that is so powerful. When

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you are insular all the time it is very difficult to learn. This club

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is ready to look out and see what else is going on and bring the eyes

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from outside the club. Just be aware of the success of the club, just be

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aware of what the town is about. And the history of the way the game has

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been played in St Helens. If you got the chance to meet Justin Holbrook

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before he met the players, what would your advice be? Get rid of the

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diagrams. Simple as that. Play rugby. There are about 20 different

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themes that come out of that peace that we could discuss and debate and

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it would take is about an hour if not longer. The balance between

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being programmed and just playing rugby. Is it a fine balance? Yes,

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really fine balance. Different teams use it in different ways. Saints are

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known for it. They throw the ball around historically. They score some

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brilliant tries. Recently we have not seen as much as that from them.

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Whether the new coach who comes in will recapture that for Saints, I'm

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not sure. It seems like that is what worked for them for a long time. As

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far as the new coach is concerned, do you agree with Jon Wilkin that

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they need a fresh verified? Somebody from outside of Super League,

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outside the country, seeing what they are doing and how they are

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operating? -- do they need a fresh pair of eyes? We need someone with

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inside for the game. We saw Paul talking about the standard of

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overseas players not being what it was ten years ago or five years ago

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for Saints. And insight from the club as well, suggesting they are

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not getting it right for the fans. It is inside with purpose and they

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have done that. They have gone from Justin Holbrook from Australia who

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will change the dynamics. There is nothing wrong with playing football

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with purpose. If you have an idea behind what you are doing... We are

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at the Jungle today and they play a great brand of rugby league but it

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has purpose and people fail to see that. It is the principle is that go

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on. The fly drives and the kick, if it is more expensive, there are

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risks and rewards that come with every type of football. If you're

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prepared to throw the ball around then you have got to be prepared to

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bend your backs. It is interesting that Castleford bending their backs

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this year as well. The defence on top of their willingness to play

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good football. I wonder if it comes down to the basic fact that sport is

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cyclical and nobody can stay on top for ever. There is no example in

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history of anybody staying on top forever. Even the Wigan side

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eventually disappeared in a Challenge Cup. Manchester United in

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the Premier League, whatever, it is cyclical. Very much so. Saints are

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very good cup team. It is not very long ago that you look at

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Scunthorpe, Cunningham, Martin, and you can reel out a list of names

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that were fantastic at football and throwing the ball about and asking

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questions. You started this question with balance. And they need to get

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the balance right between structure and playing. You know when you have

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those club legends, and you will have seen it, the next couple of

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generations below will miss out because there are so many legends

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who continue to win. You have got to wait for the kids to come through to

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take on the mantle, don't you? There is always a transition phase. Leeds

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a few years ago, when there were people like Kevin, JP, they were

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going through that. When you lose three people like them out of your

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team, it is massive. A big year for Leeds to get young lads in. It

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wasn't great for them. The amount of experience young lads will have got

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that leaves will put them in good stead in a few years' time. -- at

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Leeds. I remember being at Wigan and we didn't get to the Grand Final and

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we lost at the semifinal and their year later we had fresh eyes on the

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team. We went on to win the league. Saints are not flying at the moment

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but it is not as though they are millions of miles away. What would

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you look like in your squad at club level in terms of balance? James

:27:20.:27:23.

Roby has a Challenge Cup in his history. What do you look for in a

:27:24.:27:31.

balanced squad? I will put something else into the mixture, staying

:27:32.:27:34.

healthy. It is massively important. If you look at the top squads at

:27:35.:27:40.

both teams, it is good but it is who manages the help of the teams and

:27:41.:27:45.

looks after the players. I answer it in a different way. They have been

:27:46.:27:49.

healthy all season long and that is a huge advantage. Let's hear from

:27:50.:27:54.

one of the interim head coach is here at St Helens. It has been a

:27:55.:28:02.

tough season for you so far. Are you scratching your head is that what

:28:03.:28:09.

has gone wrong this year? It has been up and down. We know what we

:28:10.:28:15.

can do to get better. There is uncertainty of the field with a head

:28:16.:28:18.

coach coming in in the next few weeks. We are trying to steer the

:28:19.:28:22.

ship as straight as we can and play the best we can with what we have

:28:23.:28:27.

got at hand. We have seen signs of improvement. We have been

:28:28.:28:30.

inconsistent which has been our problem all year but there has been

:28:31.:28:33.

good stuff in there. We have got to get more good stuff out and less bad

:28:34.:28:37.

stuff. How much talk has been going on between the coaching guys and

:28:38.:28:42.

Justin Holbrook this week? Has he had any input today? He has let us

:28:43.:28:46.

get on with it but it is difficult for him. He is being very supportive

:28:47.:28:51.

of myself and Sean and Derek. He has been on the phone a few times this

:28:52.:28:53.

week and given us advice here and there. He has been conscious of

:28:54.:29:01.

letting us get on with the job and making sure the players are fine

:29:02.:29:05.

today. Let's get an idea of how St Helens will play today. Our man on

:29:06.:29:09.

the touchline will talk us through their game plan.

:29:10.:29:12.

St Helens haven't started this season with the same as they would

:29:13.:29:19.

expect from themselves. But one player has been outstanding,

:29:20.:29:21.

literally head and shoulders above the rest of them, is this man here,

:29:22.:29:25.

Alex Walmsley. A big man, a big frame, and while I have his

:29:26.:29:30.

attention, quick question. How important is it today that you

:29:31.:29:32.

control the speed of the rugby and the middle of the park? It is

:29:33.:29:37.

important. We have seen all year has Castleford like to play. It is a big

:29:38.:29:44.

job for us to control that and give ourselves a good chance of defence.

:29:45.:29:47.

How has the team trained for the game this weekend? Motivation has

:29:48.:29:52.

been easy this week. It is a cup game and we have been off all week.

:29:53.:29:55.

It has been easy and we are looking forward to the game. We are looking

:29:56.:29:59.

forward to putting in a good performance and getting through

:30:00.:30:03.

hopefully. Good luck for today. A big man. When he carries the ball,

:30:04.:30:08.

he splits the defence. Keep an eye on him when he tries to get in

:30:09.:30:11.

behind the rug because he will be one of two things, split the defence

:30:12.:30:16.

or get a quick play of the ball, which is hugely important to St

:30:17.:30:20.

Helens. They need to go with him today. If they do play well

:30:21.:30:24.

consistently, together, they have the stroke power within the team to

:30:25.:30:27.

cause Castleford at the top of the Super League a lot of trouble. you

:30:28.:30:34.

can do all the analysis you want but sometimes we just want to watch

:30:35.:30:39.

tries and Castleford this season have scored lots and lots of them.

:30:40.:30:43.

Grab a cup of tea, put your feet up and enjoy.

:30:44.:31:03.

they are classy and they are the great entertainers this season in

:31:04.:32:36.

Super League. If you take a look at the Super League tries table, they

:32:37.:32:42.

are on 83, nearly double the number that St Helens have scored and

:32:43.:32:49.

nearly 30 ahead of their nearest rivals, Leeds. Are they going to

:32:50.:32:52.

just throw the ball around and score lots of tries today, here's Robbie

:32:53.:32:58.

again? When we talk about the Castleford Tigers team, normally the

:32:59.:33:01.

those we talk about other world-class halves in their squad,

:33:02.:33:05.

they are amazing, the talent they have. The guy that I want to focus

:33:06.:33:12.

on at this point in time is this man here, Junior Moore 's. He goes under

:33:13.:33:16.

the radar a little bit because we focus on the world-class halves they

:33:17.:33:21.

have but when he's got the ball in motion, he causes the opposition in

:33:22.:33:28.

problem. Good luck for today but just quickly, I just want to know,

:33:29.:33:32.

he has the team prepared for this weekend? Easy motivation for us.

:33:33.:33:38.

Fresh in our memory. How important is to have a good cup run because

:33:39.:33:44.

you going so in the league? It takes one game at a time. It takes that

:33:45.:33:49.

and we will take each game as it comes. When this guy is carrying the

:33:50.:33:56.

ball, he splits teams, Castleford went to get him into one-on-one

:33:57.:34:00.

position so they can play off the back of the quick play-the-balls.

:34:01.:34:09.

In all the praise of Castleford, Saints have beaten them this season.

:34:10.:34:16.

With it being the cup and hopefully Saints come here with freedom.

:34:17.:34:21.

Everybody had written them off this week. Take the shackles of fun,

:34:22.:34:30.

play. Throw some stuff on the pitch. Castleford are dangerous but

:34:31.:34:34.

brilliant players there. For all the Castleford do score lots of tries,

:34:35.:34:39.

they have also got the meanest defence. That has been the biggest

:34:40.:34:44.

improvement for Castleford, they have always been able to score a lot

:34:45.:34:48.

of tries. The Kameni Luke Dorn has scored. Not a problem when you play

:34:49.:34:57.

at the Jungle. This year, the defence has looked up to dear and

:34:58.:35:03.

that's why they are worthy art. You are on top, Wigan, when you played

:35:04.:35:08.

in first half and you couldn't break them down. They have a good

:35:09.:35:12.

defensive system and strong with it. The pressure for Castleford is to

:35:13.:35:16.

keep it up and not get carried away. Scored ATD tries but but they will

:35:17.:35:26.

soon dip. They are on the field throwing the ball around. That's not

:35:27.:35:33.

bad. I wish we could find more of that. Do you need me as your

:35:34.:35:38.

assistant? They throw a lot of shape at you and Sam has mentioned

:35:39.:35:40.

something that's usually important at this ground. They are prepared to

:35:41.:35:47.

run and pass. Castleford Tigers lot of good athletes and the support

:35:48.:35:51.

play is superb. Anybody that makes half a break generally supported by

:35:52.:35:56.

three or four players but they play good ships. We talked about purpose

:35:57.:35:59.

and process but they get to a certain part of the field and throw

:36:00.:36:03.

a lot of numbers at you, lots of players behind the line and they

:36:04.:36:07.

have the imagination to look up and click to see who is in space. They

:36:08.:36:12.

are the full package and that's because in this ground in particular

:36:13.:36:17.

they can play to the fringes because they are always in attacking

:36:18.:36:20.

positions. You have to hold your nerve. Saints's biggest challenge

:36:21.:36:25.

against this progress and support play, expansive football, all the

:36:26.:36:28.

front rowers have the ability to pass at the right time and you have

:36:29.:36:33.

people and the halves who go on the line and commit defenders and make

:36:34.:36:37.

pass play. You have to expect everything. You've got to manage

:36:38.:36:42.

this game if you are Saints because they go into spurts of tries as

:36:43.:36:47.

well, they score and a score again, so if you concede once you have to

:36:48.:36:51.

galvanise to what you do for the next five minutes. Unbeaten year

:36:52.:36:56.

this season, averaging over 50 points. You mentioned the pitch is

:36:57.:37:00.

short, we did a Challenge Cup game here when they played Salford and we

:37:01.:37:04.

discussed this. You will have they do, do you have to alter your game

:37:05.:37:07.

slightly because it is a shorter pitch? You have to prepared to

:37:08.:37:11.

defend your online quite a lot and play a lot of attacking rugby. For

:37:12.:37:17.

the figures it's easier to get out your own end. You don't spend a lot

:37:18.:37:22.

of time in yardage and if you got a decent kicker like both sides have,

:37:23.:37:25.

you put your foot through it on the other end of the field. It's

:37:26.:37:28.

different preparation, it does change. This year for the man who

:37:29.:37:33.

was responsible for turning Castleford into these great

:37:34.:37:35.

entertainers. Their head coach Daryl Powell.

:37:36.:37:39.

Your players are playing so well particularly here at home, did you

:37:40.:37:44.

get to sit back and enjoy the style with which they play. You are always

:37:45.:37:50.

thinking games can turn so quickly, so unless you get a really big lead,

:37:51.:37:57.

you just do your job. I enjoy watching the guys play. A little bit

:37:58.:38:03.

more than they have too. We have been playing with a lot of

:38:04.:38:05.

confidence and hopefully we can back that up. What has been the

:38:06.:38:09.

difference from last season. They played great attacking stuff. What

:38:10.:38:15.

has been the difference this season? A bit more of a cutting-edge. We

:38:16.:38:19.

have played well for quite a few years, defensively we've been so

:38:20.:38:22.

much better this year and we've been able to back up our errors by

:38:23.:38:27.

defending well. We had the desperation to keep teams out, so

:38:28.:38:31.

that's been the biggest difference. The counterattacking game has been

:38:32.:38:35.

growing and maturing in the last few years and this year we've had some

:38:36.:38:37.

games where we've really been outstanding. Today will be a tough

:38:38.:38:42.

game. They will be different. Whether we can impart that game on

:38:43.:38:46.

St Helens, they will be desperate for it today. Should be special. How

:38:47.:38:52.

do you feel with how the club have developed since you made the

:38:53.:38:55.

Challenge Cup final in 2014? It's been significant. When I first came

:38:56.:39:01.

in 2013, people were saying to me why would you take that poisoned

:39:02.:39:05.

chalice of a job for stuff for me it was the ideal job, you could see the

:39:06.:39:08.

development, this is a rugby town are known -- bar none, died in the

:39:09.:39:19.

wool, Castleford. The town has grown in terms of its love for Castleford

:39:20.:39:23.

and our ability to play rugby league has announced all of that. The

:39:24.:39:25.

business has gone well with the people behind the scenes. We are

:39:26.:39:29.

growing every year which is positive for us. Three players off with

:39:30.:39:34.

England, Luke Gale seems to have cemented his place at number seven

:39:35.:39:38.

for England. I have you developed him as a player since he came in

:39:39.:39:44.

because he is in charge now? He's a typical half-backs. Got a lot of

:39:45.:39:49.

confidence about him. Got the skill set to be able to play at

:39:50.:39:54.

half-backs. Got the voice. The booming voice, he is confident in

:39:55.:39:58.

his own ability. He's developed in all sorts of ways, his patience is

:39:59.:40:04.

much better nowadays than when he first came. He has fitted in and

:40:05.:40:08.

grabbed hold of the way we play and he is a pivotal part but there are

:40:09.:40:12.

many other people in there as well doing a fantastic job. He is the

:40:13.:40:18.

controller and she found us a special job for us in that regard.

:40:19.:40:26.

What a job he has done. He's been some. The man of steel today, his

:40:27.:40:30.

combination with Zach Hardaker was always interesting for me to see how

:40:31.:40:34.

they would get on but they have hit it off and they've been incredible.

:40:35.:40:44.

I'd like to mention. He's a schema, an old-fashioned style dummy half

:40:45.:40:48.

but he gets the best set of Luke Gale and knows when to give him the

:40:49.:40:52.

ball. The head to head for Luke Gale and Patti Smith. We can have a look

:40:53.:40:58.

at the stats which shows what a great season Luke Gale has had. You

:40:59.:41:05.

know Matty Smith, he was at Wigan, no one seems, are you surprised he

:41:06.:41:09.

has struggled a bit this season. The form of St Helens, down to Matty

:41:10.:41:17.

Smith, on his day he is one of the best in the country and he's playing

:41:18.:41:21.

internationally to prove it. Both these lads have a similar role, they

:41:22.:41:26.

gave the team and they kick which is a huge part of the game when you

:41:27.:41:34.

play here. Watching Luke Gale play internationals, he has to get one

:41:35.:41:41.

over him today. Bluegill is playing in a confident team, the support

:41:42.:41:45.

game becomes easier, the kicking becomes easier and with the

:41:46.:41:48.

challenge Saints have got the third form Matty Smith has to dig deep and

:41:49.:41:54.

find a lot of players. They have had some injuries in and around there.

:41:55.:41:58.

Tough season for Matty Smith. A couple of the wingers that we will

:41:59.:42:05.

watch this afternoon. Reagan Grace, the young lad on the wing for St

:42:06.:42:12.

Helens. 15 tries. He has not played that many games and he has already

:42:13.:42:20.

got plus 18 tackles. He has bounced onto the scene. Came over to the DW

:42:21.:42:27.

Stadium, his first game, nobody knew anything of him. Didn't do any

:42:28.:42:36.

preparation on him. He was on-farm. Ran 200 metres and we knew nothing

:42:37.:42:41.

of him and he's a great product. It's exciting. Very much so, you're

:42:42.:42:47.

looking at the back three for Castleford. You have Reagan Grace.

:42:48.:42:56.

I'm looking forward to seeing him today. We are in rugby league

:42:57.:43:03.

heartland on the BBC this afternoon. Castleford Tigers Saints in the

:43:04.:43:04.

sixth round of the Challenge Cup. There it is, the Ladbrokes Challenge

:43:05.:43:34.

Cup and the first game of what we hope will be a memorable tournament

:43:35.:43:44.

across the BBC for you. Just a word on Castleford as we wait for the

:43:45.:43:47.

team to promote, the town has a population of about 40,000, 10,000

:43:48.:43:52.

and watch them here at the Jungle. You might call me a sentimental old

:43:53.:43:59.

fool, but this is what British sport is about. Mark, you sentimental old

:44:00.:44:05.

full, absolutely. A vote of the population in a community club. This

:44:06.:44:14.

is the heartbeat of our game and its one of the clubs that have been

:44:15.:44:16.

successful over the years with their community spirit and this particular

:44:17.:44:22.

ground as well brings a brand of football that is recognise right

:44:23.:44:25.

across the globe. The same for St Helens, right in the heart of the

:44:26.:44:29.

community and the two clash this afternoon, so let's bring in our

:44:30.:44:34.

commentary team, Jonathan Davies alongside the BBC's rugby league

:44:35.:44:36.

correspondent, Dave Woods. COMMENTATOR: This is a game that had

:44:37.:44:44.

simply can't wait stamped all over it from the moment the tie was

:44:45.:44:50.

drawn. There is a real lip licking gobsmacking potential to this one.

:44:51.:44:54.

It could be terrific today, it really cute. Castleford have been

:44:55.:45:00.

running in tries for fun but don't write off St Helens because they

:45:01.:45:03.

have already beating Castleford back on Easter Monday and they will have

:45:04.:45:08.

a certain determination about them as well. Jon Wilkin will start the

:45:09.:45:16.

day on the bench. The Castleford players, most if not all have scored

:45:17.:45:20.

at least one of their 83 tries so far this season. Alex Walmsley at

:45:21.:45:27.

the tall fellow who went all the way to Sydney and back without playing a

:45:28.:45:32.

game, Mark Percival, his team-mate at the centre likewise. Run the

:45:33.:45:36.

world in eight days and nothing to show but a suntan but I'm sure

:45:37.:45:40.

they'll be hoping that they can reproduce their recent Super League

:45:41.:45:44.

form again today in the Challenge Cup, the Ladbrokes Challenge Cup. So

:45:45.:45:53.

how do they line up? The Castleford side, three players on England duty

:45:54.:45:56.

in Sydney last week, all Star today. Zach Hardaker, Luke Gale and Minikin

:45:57.:46:01.

and 21-year-old Tom Holm stars only his second game of the season at

:46:02.:46:08.

stand-off. Interesting selection with Roberts on the bench. The

:46:09.:46:15.

winger Reagan Grace mixes six successive appearance.

:46:16.:46:27.

Here is our referee for the day, Mr Phil Bentham. We have a video

:46:28.:46:33.

referee as well, Robert Hicks and we will hear from them should the need

:46:34.:46:41.

arise at any point. Mr Craven and Mr Roberts are the two touch judges and

:46:42.:46:45.

Zach Hardaker is the man to get us under way. Both entertainers these

:46:46.:46:51.

two teams by reputation. Castleford have lived up to all of that in

:46:52.:46:57.

thrilling fashion all season long. Is today the time St Helens caulk

:46:58.:47:01.

their fizz. Good time to do it, stage like this, cup competition.

:47:02.:47:07.

This is the time and everybody in rugby league gets excited because

:47:08.:47:10.

the realisation dawns on you, you win this round of 16, you are two

:47:11.:47:15.

games away from a Wembley appearance and I'm certain there will be a

:47:16.:47:18.

great spectacle on show with that goal in sight. Great place to play,

:47:19.:47:28.

great atmosphere. You know what Castleford will bring and they play

:47:29.:47:32.

with a lot of confidence. As a St Helens player you have to close them

:47:33.:47:35.

down, disrupt them on the kick and chase has to be good and you can try

:47:36.:47:40.

and blame them. What a kick and chase that was. The referee decided

:47:41.:47:47.

there was no Castleford Tigers show a bit of enterprise from St Helens

:47:48.:47:50.

with that kick. Castleford a little bit cautious but they have got away

:47:51.:47:54.

with it. Great kick, kicked short or Zach Hardaker into the space and

:47:55.:48:01.

reading by St Helens. It's certainly a good place to turnover was that

:48:02.:48:05.

you have a set defensive of so they can really get off the line and put

:48:06.:48:08.

some pressure on the Castleford ball-carriers. Greg Eden on the

:48:09.:48:15.

first occasion trying to burst things through and St Helens are

:48:16.:48:19.

caught of side and they don't want to give too many penalties are

:48:20.:48:22.

winnable seat Castleford inside the St Helens half. Line speed is very

:48:23.:48:27.

important, you can't give simple penalties away. This is the first

:48:28.:48:32.

real attacking opportunity for Castleford. It's a really colourful

:48:33.:48:37.

occasion looking down there. The white and red St Helens, the gold

:48:38.:48:43.

and black of Castleford. It's noisy as well and it will get noisier as

:48:44.:48:47.

the day goes on. McShane at dummy half. Andy Lynch will roll it

:48:48.:48:55.

forward. 20 metres away. Great position that Castleford find

:48:56.:49:02.

themselves in. Holmes puts it back. Hardaker, left of Shenton. Good

:49:03.:49:07.

defence from St Helens. But Castleford are moving in. Lynch has

:49:08.:49:16.

to take it in hard. Plenty of fight about him, all this fancy dan stuff,

:49:17.:49:24.

they have plenty of grip. Gale with the pass away and grabbing at thin

:49:25.:49:28.

air as Shenton goes on to score the game's first try with barely three

:49:29.:49:36.

minutes played. Absolutely clinical from the Castleford Tigers. Really

:49:37.:49:43.

top-quality work as Jonathan Davies said, penalty, you give away the

:49:44.:49:48.

penalty, you concede field position, you could Castleford in great

:49:49.:49:52.

attacking shape and my word they have taken full advantage. You can

:49:53.:49:56.

see there, offside at the play-the-ball, trying to cut down

:49:57.:50:00.

the Castleford ball-carriers's time and space but what a well executed

:50:01.:50:06.

play. Luke Gale perfectly just a lie at the centre, Michael Shenton, to

:50:07.:50:10.

get on the outside of the St Helens defence. Superb. Outside Morgan and

:50:11.:50:16.

that is the gap he goes through other great try. After a very good

:50:17.:50:21.

defensive set from a good play by Castleford, Morgan just showed

:50:22.:50:26.

himself, he went early, caught himself in no man's land and the

:50:27.:50:31.

pass on the outside shoulder just put Shenton end, had to stand off a

:50:32.:50:36.

little bit and hold the line. As far as England are concerned, Michael

:50:37.:50:38.

Shenton is the forgotten man of the moment. He played in the first test,

:50:39.:50:42.

his last appearance in the first test against Samoa in the four

:50:43.:50:48.

nations two years ago and has been overlooked since but the way he has

:50:49.:50:52.

played this season. He is 31 later this year. I wonder if he might be

:50:53.:50:58.

somebody who catches the eye before the World Cup squad is announced.

:50:59.:51:05.

The kick, trying to fit in but has put it wide. It remains 4-0. Michael

:51:06.:51:12.

Shenton, discuss. Certain he would be far away, when Bent and is clued

:51:13.:51:16.

up, he knows he can play in the left-centre position as he

:51:17.:51:19.

demonstrated so well with that bounce line in the last minute to

:51:20.:51:24.

score of the outset of Morgan. What Brian Noble said at the end of the

:51:25.:51:27.

year, when there is a big competition you need a big form

:51:28.:51:31.

player and the way Castleford are playing, he's going to be in the

:51:32.:51:36.

frame. An awful season last year when he was injured in the first

:51:37.:51:39.

game, Michael Shenton but what a year he's having this year. That's

:51:40.:51:43.

his sixth try in his 12th appearance. St Helens, what have

:51:44.:51:46.

they got, looking for a big response in defence on this tiny pitch,

:51:47.:51:51.

looking to keep Castleford deep inside their own half and making a

:51:52.:51:54.

decent fist of it with the opening three tackles. Millington put down.

:51:55.:52:00.

Less than 15 away. McShane goes left. Milner steps.

:52:01.:52:05.

Good effort so far, the one picked up from McShane. The off-load sees

:52:06.:52:19.

Castleford continue. Back to Gale, big boot from him. Beneath it it is

:52:20.:52:28.

caught safely by Makinson and St Helens can give themselves a pat on

:52:29.:52:33.

the back. As Sam Tomkins indicated in the build-up to the game, even

:52:34.:52:37.

though they restricted Castleford's ball-carriers there was a kid and St

:52:38.:52:42.

Helens started their set within ten metres of the goal-line. As a

:52:43.:52:49.

kicker, you enjoy coming here,. The crowd is on top of you. Small field.

:52:50.:52:57.

Percival running into the gap and he's intercepted. Tom Holmes Hazard.

:52:58.:53:07.

Hardaker now. -- has it back. That's a shame because they stripped

:53:08.:53:10.

Castleford, got on the outside, good work by Holmes, the young half-backs

:53:11.:53:15.

caught between the ball carrier and support player and picked off the

:53:16.:53:21.

pass. May concern is holding his chest, he might have injured

:53:22.:53:22.

himself. -- Makinson. Here's Lynch. The next will be the

:53:23.:53:46.

last year for Castleford in this set. Steepling high. Pushed out of

:53:47.:53:56.

the way. You can't do that. That's clueless, what is running through

:53:57.:54:01.

his head? It was blatant to everybody in the ground. Just pushes

:54:02.:54:08.

him. Hang on, case for the defence, might be a collision with Morgan,

:54:09.:54:14.

might have been his own man. Not as obvious. Whoever is underneath the

:54:15.:54:18.

ball and going to catch it, they tend to look after them. They

:54:19.:54:25.

certainly do and rightly so. Like the goalkeepers in football, can't

:54:26.:54:30.

touch them any more. Seven minutes play, one tries so far. St Helens

:54:31.:54:37.

looking for a response but having to start from deep but in reality, that

:54:38.:54:40.

far away from the line because of the proportions here. Roby and at

:54:41.:54:47.

dummy half, has got some eagerness to his left, will run himself for a

:54:48.:54:48.

while and Smith gets us on to Fages. Asking a lot, Mach Douglas

:54:49.:55:03.

was expecting that, the bowl is built and Castleford switching the

:55:04.:55:09.

on button and looking to attack. The one thing you have to do is complete

:55:10.:55:15.

your sets. You can spill the ball and the previous two sense they have

:55:16.:55:19.

given the ball away and given Castleford good field position to

:55:20.:55:24.

start. Millington. Cast your memory back to last year in the Challenge

:55:25.:55:28.

Cup tie be covered against Salford, Millington was playing in the

:55:29.:55:34.

halves. With Paul McShane. The off-load has gone to ground, zero

:55:35.:55:37.

tackle and Castleford get it back again. Morgan who neutralises the

:55:38.:55:46.

situation. He then feed for Castleford. The Saints are under the

:55:47.:55:50.

cosh at the minute. Possession and territory going against them and

:55:51.:55:55.

play the ball coming to make the tackle. Ricocheted off the hand. Got

:55:56.:56:04.

to be patient. You're not trying to score every time you go wide. Staff

:56:05.:56:13.

Castleford of possession. -- star of Castleford of possession.

:56:14.:56:24.

Sean Long makes up the trio looking after Castleford before Justin

:56:25.:56:33.

Holbrook takes over. Ten away. Ripple of and has the Castleford

:56:34.:56:38.

fans. Morgan got a hand on it and knocked it forward. Almost got the

:56:39.:56:43.

intercept. You lament you can see his reading defensively is correct

:56:44.:56:49.

-- you can see. Needed to do something because once again they

:56:50.:56:54.

created numbers on the outside. Shut out of the line and they wanted to

:56:55.:56:59.

Rio bowl in but at least he diffused the attacking situation from

:57:00.:57:05.

Castleford. If he doesn't get that ball it is try time. They are asking

:57:06.:57:13.

questions of the right-hand side. Have a look at the position in the

:57:14.:57:20.

early stages but first ten minutes, 64% possession and 72% territory.

:57:21.:57:24.

Enjoying a little bit more of both now. Five tackles for Castleford. To

:57:25.:57:32.

unpick the St Helens door. Driven in by Lynch. St Helens defending on

:57:33.:57:40.

their own line. Holmes, look at the numbers. Webster. It almost seems

:57:41.:57:47.

too easy. Jake Webster walking through. Congratulations to the man

:57:48.:57:53.

who created it. Didn't get the numbers right defensively. It was a

:57:54.:57:57.

simple play, just got the numbers wrong on they waltzed through. They

:57:58.:58:01.

have to communicate, pool defenders when they are short. Such an easy

:58:02.:58:09.

walk for Webster. The play-the-ball as you rightly state, that was at

:58:10.:58:16.

the post, so you expect a split. Really it was man on man and when

:58:17.:58:20.

its man on man, four against four with such space, there's bound to be

:58:21.:58:24.

some problems on your own line. There is the error by Morgan. Chills

:58:25.:58:30.

to come out of the line to close it. These are the numbers. Four against

:58:31.:58:39.

four. Some ship from Castleford, so difficult to defend when its man on

:58:40.:58:43.

man at slip when you're on your online and there's so much space.

:58:44.:58:48.

Make hay while the sun shines. You have to have questions from the

:58:49.:58:55.

defence. As a St Helens supporter and coach, you would expect the to

:58:56.:59:03.

drop off and block the runner. You suspect Justin Holbrook is watching

:59:04.:59:10.

this and there will be smoke coming from his pencil in the first ten

:59:11.:59:14.

minutes. Possession, territory and on the scoreboard. Luke Gale looking

:59:15.:59:21.

to take Castleford into double figures, which he does with relative

:59:22.:59:31.

ease. 10-0. Webster the try scorer. Seventh of the year. Looking a bit

:59:32.:59:38.

nonplussed at the moment. They will be because it's been a barrage of

:59:39.:59:42.

pressure and that man is so important to St Helens. One of the

:59:43.:59:46.

senior players, out on the field and has two lead from the front. My

:59:47.:59:51.

word, there are questions being asked of this St Helens team

:59:52.:59:55.

already. Have had no possession and Northern Territory, have they?

:59:56.:00:02.

Talking about English centres, Jake Webster is a British citizen these

:00:03.:00:07.

days. Former Kiwi International, so they might not go with him. This is

:00:08.:00:14.

McShane. Millington again. Jonathan, you write saying they have had no

:00:15.:00:18.

possession. Made four errors already. Exactly. You just can't

:00:19.:00:27.

spill the ball over. In a cup game, keep possession. Field position,

:00:28.:00:34.

staff Castleford, especially when you know they are on fire.

:00:35.:00:42.

Gale's kick, which grace will pick up. He is a superstar in the making.

:00:43.:00:59.

He is a superstar. They know the field so well. They are constantly

:01:00.:01:03.

making St Helens start in their own centre zone. Davis is definitely

:01:04.:01:10.

looking forward to that one tomorrow! The only fixture he can go

:01:11.:01:16.

to without anybody abusing him! Warrington and Widnes fans actually

:01:17.:01:21.

quite like him! Percival trying to keep it alive. At least money back

:01:22.:01:28.

on the gamble but it didn't quite come off or go wrong. Look at this,

:01:29.:01:37.

the path on the inside. Looking to attack deep inside their own half.

:01:38.:01:42.

The transition from defence into attack of Castleford is the best in

:01:43.:01:46.

the league without a shadow of a doubt. As soon as they have sold

:01:47.:01:49.

their defensive problems, the foot goes down and they try to attack

:01:50.:01:56.

immediately. They put it through their hands. It is very simple but

:01:57.:02:00.

very effective. Near the halfway line, it makes it very easy for

:02:01.:02:06.

Gale. There is a vibrancy and verve about Castleford at the moment.

:02:07.:02:16.

Milliken has got to come inside -- Greg Minikin. Suddenly St Helens

:02:17.:02:29.

have a bit of relief. There is a new role, brought into Super League and

:02:30.:02:35.

the Challenge Cup. If you catch the ball inside your own in-goal area,

:02:36.:02:39.

you get seven tackles. On a full pitch like this, inevitably it means

:02:40.:02:43.

St Helens will have good attacking options later. It is a good change

:02:44.:02:49.

because the kicking has got to be precise now. Alex Walmsley is doing

:02:50.:02:58.

well. Many of us were surprised he wasn't in the England 17 last week.

:02:59.:03:06.

St Helens looking to build foundations here. They have a couple

:03:07.:03:10.

of plays still to go with 15 yards to cover. Morgan. He will be held at

:03:11.:03:19.

right there. Last play for St Helens. Best attacking position they

:03:20.:03:25.

have been in for a while. Matty Smith, keeper extraordinaire. He

:03:26.:03:29.

tries to measure it and does well but it bounces awkwardly. Referee

:03:30.:03:32.

says play on. James Roby tries to make the tackle. You can see the

:03:33.:03:38.

benefit of that tackle that. Ask the question on the right and then a

:03:39.:03:44.

good kick. Tried to land it on Tom Holmes, one of the smallest

:03:45.:03:46.

Castleford players, landing at right on his head. Challenging for the

:03:47.:03:55.

ball. He has gone under the radar this year, hasn't he, Milner? The

:03:56.:04:02.

enthusiasm man for Castleford but he is a man that leads the defensive

:04:03.:04:04.

line, believe you me. I kick again from Gale, into the

:04:05.:04:20.

corner. Putting it right there. Grace, what have you got? This is a

:04:21.:04:25.

dart and a dive and he gets back to safety. Well done, the young winger.

:04:26.:04:31.

They all look so comfortable. The ball has been stolen by Millington

:04:32.:04:39.

who touches down! Pockets picked but not confirmed as a score yet.

:04:40.:04:44.

Referee is going for the big screen. Were there too many in the tackle?

:04:45.:04:47.

You think there might have been but we will get it definitively from the

:04:48.:04:58.

video referee. OK. The decision is no try. We are checking whether the

:04:59.:05:03.

ball is stolen two on one. In goes personal. Milner comes into the

:05:04.:05:20.

attacker. -- in goes Mark Percival. Is Milner still holding? That

:05:21.:05:24.

becomes a new tackle. The ball is stolen by Millington there. Have we

:05:25.:05:27.

got another angle from the other side to see if any player is on him

:05:28.:05:34.

when the ball is stolen? The line decision is no try. We are into a

:05:35.:05:41.

new tackle and that is play on. Incomes Millington. He appears to

:05:42.:05:52.

start to steal the ball. Jesse Sene-Lefao's arm is on him when the

:05:53.:05:55.

ball comes out, so there would be two men in the tackle, so the

:05:56.:05:59.

decision of no try would be correct. I am going to confirm the line

:06:00.:06:10.

decision of no try. Penalty. That is such a lucky call for St Helens. The

:06:11.:06:16.

hand came in, he lost the ball. A loose carry. That is so lucky for St

:06:17.:06:23.

Helens. I think Daryl Powell's face says it all. I think it is the right

:06:24.:06:31.

decision but only just. Instead of conceding potentially six points, St

:06:32.:06:36.

Helens have got the penalty to clear the lines and remain at only ten. A

:06:37.:06:48.

chance to rebuild again here. Mark Percival. James Roby. James Roby has

:06:49.:07:00.

regained it this season. On the injury bench. Back on the inside.

:07:01.:07:12.

James Roby goes left. Alex Walmsley with him once again. Trying to

:07:13.:07:17.

wrestle the path clear. He needed a machete to get through those

:07:18.:07:19.

Castleford players. Better from things. Smith. Alex Walmsley again.

:07:20.:07:28.

No Swift pass. Throwing his body at the situation. Down he goes. Matty

:07:29.:07:35.

Smith again. Again the cake. Again looking to measure it. Eden goes up

:07:36.:07:42.

and in midair Morgan catches that ball away from the Castleford man.

:07:43.:07:47.

No questions this time and St Helens have got their score. An referee

:07:48.:07:58.

decisions, it is allowed try at one end -- an referee decisions, a

:07:59.:08:05.

disallowed try at one end and now four points for them. There is

:08:06.:08:13.

nothing in that. Very lucky. St Helens have not looked very

:08:14.:08:19.

dangerous. Beautiful kick, well timed, that is try, simple as. An

:08:20.:08:25.

excellent kick. Matty Smith really does put it on a sixpence. And I

:08:26.:08:31.

like Morgan's attempt. He times it very well. Outstretched arms and a

:08:32.:08:35.

good try. He didn't just jumped very high. He got in front, the winger,

:08:36.:08:49.

and he brought it down. They haven't had any opportunities, going against

:08:50.:08:53.

the run of play. But once they have got there, once the ball goes up and

:08:54.:08:57.

it is competitive and to compete for it, anything can happen.

:08:58.:09:05.

Mark Percival looking to narrow the gap to just four.

:09:06.:09:14.

Plenty of expectation all around the Jungle as Mark Percival just puts it

:09:15.:09:27.

wide. It remains 10-4. Disappointment in the eyes of the

:09:28.:09:33.

Castleford players. Danny absolutely ripping into the Castleford players,

:09:34.:09:37.

telling them to keep their eyes on the job. -- Daryl Powell ripping

:09:38.:09:42.

into the players. He is making sure they are focused on the job at hand.

:09:43.:09:48.

The coach is not happy. His assistant beside him. Robins of

:09:49.:09:55.

discontent all around the stadium but St Helens fans will be

:09:56.:09:58.

encouraged by what they have seen in the last three minutes. They will be

:09:59.:10:03.

encouraged by that play but not by the fact that Ben Roberts has

:10:04.:10:07.

entered the fray. He has swapped with Tom Holmes. He will be playing

:10:08.:10:11.

with pivotal spot and he is a handful. We watch out for his left

:10:12.:10:15.

foot, Ben Roberts, with his kicking game. Can Matty Smith unlock

:10:16.:10:22.

Castleford's defence? Roberts will be similar. 40 metres out. Last play

:10:23.:10:31.

here. Matty Smith again. Zak Hardaker. I is on the job. Simple

:10:32.:10:39.

take. What comes next? The chase from things is good and very close

:10:40.:10:44.

to the line. Castleford fans want a penalty for hanging on. His arm was

:10:45.:10:50.

swinging. They have worked their way back into the game, St Helens. They

:10:51.:10:55.

have caught them out, gaining field position and this is more like the

:10:56.:11:01.

cup tie that we expected. They have got to keep them coming from deep.

:11:02.:11:07.

Making Castleford work. Slightly different in their own 20 metre

:11:08.:11:13.

area. The off-load came with a little one back towards Ben Roberts.

:11:14.:11:23.

Gale with a kick, looking for a bit of territory here. A wonderful kick.

:11:24.:11:28.

St Helens have got a job to do again. And it is being done superbly

:11:29.:11:36.

well here. Wonderful break from Tom Makinson from behind his own life.

:11:37.:11:39.

He is still going here, all the way to the halfway. What a recovery run

:11:40.:11:49.

that was. And a penalty. As John said, they have certainly pulled

:11:50.:11:53.

themselves back into this game. Holding possession, getting

:11:54.:11:57.

position. That was a magnificent piece of individual play from Tom

:11:58.:12:01.

Makinson. First of all the magnificent carry up to the halfway

:12:02.:12:05.

line. Then urgency to bring the ball back into play, the quick play of

:12:06.:12:10.

the ball, resulting in Castleford having a second effort. That one

:12:11.:12:16.

play from behind their own line to 20 metres away from the Castleford

:12:17.:12:21.

line. Great play. Matty Smith was barking out orders and instructions

:12:22.:12:24.

to his team-mates before he kicked the ball out of play. They know what

:12:25.:12:30.

comes next. A couple of settlers and then play as they try to drag

:12:31.:12:37.

themselves back level. It is taken by Luke Douglas, the Scottish

:12:38.:12:40.

international. What great formation they had last autumn. Matty Smith

:12:41.:12:47.

again. Back into the hands of Tom Aikens -- Tom Makinson. Castleford's

:12:48.:12:53.

defence has been much improved but this is the test. Can they withstand

:12:54.:12:58.

the St Helens pressure? They try to take it in and create space. Roberts

:12:59.:13:05.

all over him. Matty Smith back again. Thompson with an honest

:13:06.:13:12.

effort. But only one play to go. A dummy! And very close, very, very

:13:13.:13:22.

close. The referee? Does he think it is close enough question to be

:13:23.:13:27.

asked? He does. Going to the video referee again. Again he says no try.

:13:28.:13:31.

It is all about whether he hits the or not. Robert Hicks will give you

:13:32.:13:37.

the answer. The line decision is no try. OK. Tackle. Looking to see if

:13:38.:13:44.

the ball hits the line. Taia takes the ball. If we can go slow here?

:13:45.:13:51.

Short. Dirty then go to the line with the ball? -- does he then go to

:13:52.:14:00.

the line? That could be touching the line. In fact it is touching the

:14:01.:14:06.

line. Can we take that replay back? It does hit the line. OK. Keep going

:14:07.:14:16.

back. It has only got to touch the line. There we go. Go slowly now.

:14:17.:14:22.

Does that ball then hit the line? The line decision is no try so I

:14:23.:14:26.

need sufficient evidence to prove it has touched the line. The ball is

:14:27.:14:29.

out of shot I haven't seen it hit the line yet. Have we any other

:14:30.:14:41.

angle to show bit on the line? If you pause it there, that now is on

:14:42.:14:45.

the line. Can I see it at full speed, please? Yes, please. I have

:14:46.:14:54.

got to check now whether it is double movement so we have got to

:14:55.:15:07.

see it at full speed. I am OK with that. I haven't got sufficient

:15:08.:15:10.

evidence. The line decision is no try and I will go with a turnover.

:15:11.:15:20.

I had a tape to say you can't argue with that decision. -- I hate to say

:15:21.:15:29.

that you can't argue with that decision by Jonathan is poised. I

:15:30.:15:32.

think the ball did touch the line, whether it is momentum or not. At

:15:33.:15:36.

normal speed there is a bit of momentum there. I thought it was

:15:37.:15:43.

either a try or a penalty to Castleford, one or the other. One or

:15:44.:15:49.

the other, you are right. Saturday afternoon, watching rugby league and

:15:50.:15:55.

arguing! I think if it was a try on the field, you would have given it.

:15:56.:15:59.

That is how important the referee's call is on that occasion. Roberts

:16:00.:16:09.

has entered the fray. And Junior Moors. Looking pretty strong. They

:16:10.:16:18.

must be thinking that they have stolen momentum away from

:16:19.:16:23.

Castleford. Put the big boys on. The kick is more than sufficient. Very

:16:24.:16:29.

good. That is clever. That has taken this bit of a mentor that St Helens

:16:30.:16:34.

had built. Rolling over the sideline, walking to the scrum,

:16:35.:16:37.

getting oxygen in their lungs and composing themselves. Very clever

:16:38.:16:45.

scrum. It shows how important it is to keep possession. Keep your

:16:46.:16:51.

possession, finish the set, put pressure on the position and that is

:16:52.:16:54.

what Saints have done. They haven't created a lot from the possession

:16:55.:16:59.

but it has starved Castleford of being on the front foot. 12 times

:17:00.:17:06.

Challenge Cup winners, St Helens. They haven't been in the final since

:17:07.:17:13.

2008. Tough route to Wembley this year for them if they get there

:17:14.:17:17.

because they have got to overcome the Castleford team. The last time

:17:18.:17:20.

they played Castleford in the Challenge Cup was 1996 with a new

:17:21.:17:24.

coach then, his first game in charge. They won the cup that year.

:17:25.:17:31.

So that is important potentially. They have done all right here, St

:17:32.:17:35.

Helens. Challenge Cup and Super League titles. Hunter Paul scored a

:17:36.:17:46.

hat-trick at Wembley in 1996, didn't he? A couple of tackles to go for St

:17:47.:17:56.

Helens. They are set fair, maybe. James Roby putting it to his right

:17:57.:18:01.

and Amor. Amrit Karra is lost it will stop what it stolen? -- Kyle a

:18:02.:18:14.

Amor lost it. Was it stolen? The referee says no. You can see that he

:18:15.:18:23.

just lost control. That is what Saint have got to do. Stop the ball.

:18:24.:18:31.

Bit of contention about whether Amor lost the ball. No contention here,

:18:32.:18:42.

certainly. Mike McMeeken is looking to off-load and he just spills it.

:18:43.:18:49.

Right decision. For everyone at Castleford, after ten minutes, they

:18:50.:18:55.

were leading, and St Helens looked to be at sixes and sevens in defence

:18:56.:19:01.

but it is a different cup tie now. Taken in by Morgan. John Keogh got

:19:02.:19:10.

his Welsh debut for him. Creeping closer, St Helens. 13

:19:11.:19:24.

minutes of the first half remaining. James Roby goes left. Step back by

:19:25.:19:34.

Mark Percival. A couple of tackles still to go. St Helens less than ten

:19:35.:19:40.

away. Matty Smith across the line. Amor, setting the platform for the

:19:41.:19:48.

last play in the set. James Roby out of dummy half. Mark Percival trying

:19:49.:19:57.

to crash over. Castleford in numbers. That was clever what

:19:58.:20:04.

Castleford did, controlling the ball of the St Helens players. They were

:20:05.:20:09.

happy to back their strength and their control to get that ten

:20:10.:20:17.

metres. Not a bad place to finish. Some consolation for St Helens. It

:20:18.:20:22.

leaves Castleford with a big job of getting downfield. Lost it, lost it.

:20:23.:20:31.

St Helens have got it back again. The mistakes are being made by St

:20:32.:20:39.

Helens in the start of the game. But a lot of the players have been

:20:40.:20:45.

playing in the Castleford half now. The St Helens defence, they are

:20:46.:20:48.

getting some numbers in the tackle, cutting down the space with the line

:20:49.:20:53.

speed. Pretty good defence by Saint and they are earning these errors.

:20:54.:20:59.

Kyle Amor has taken the ball right up the middle. He will be much

:21:00.:21:11.

happier now. John Lowe was a three-time winner, so plenty of

:21:12.:21:16.

Challenge Cup final pedigree. -- Sean Long. McCarthy-Scarsbrook will

:21:17.:21:27.

get death penalty for the contact made on him. -- get a penalty. We

:21:28.:21:36.

carried on regardless but the referee said it was not fair. Four

:21:37.:21:45.

penalties conceded by Castleford but none by St Helens. That has changed

:21:46.:21:52.

the momentum, it really has. James Roby, five attempts to have a really

:21:53.:21:56.

big go on this Castleford line. But that is the Castleford response.

:21:57.:22:04.

Great defence. Leading by example. Thompson looks to take it back from

:22:05.:22:08.

worried game. Listen to the roaring from behind the sticks from the

:22:09.:22:11.

Castleford fans, urging their side's defensive effort on. Taia, big and

:22:12.:22:17.

strong, but Castleford players clambering all over him and pulling

:22:18.:22:21.

him down. James Roby goes back to the middle. Matty Smith. Thompson.

:22:22.:22:28.

Another thunderous hit. They are getting shoulders in the way of

:22:29.:22:33.

things. The Castleford defenders. The last play. Matty Smith with a

:22:34.:22:38.

kick again. Isolation for the winger there. And all he can do is catch

:22:39.:22:42.

it. I think he caught it on the fall in his own area. The referee is

:22:43.:22:49.

checking this. A big decision. I think it is a penalty. Yes, penalty.

:22:50.:22:54.

Matty Smith will be disappointed. All the pressure was on. It is an

:22:55.:23:03.

easy take. The referee has got it exactly right, just as you called

:23:04.:23:07.

it. Everybody has been talking about how great Castleford are with the

:23:08.:23:10.

ball in their hands. Daryl Powell will have enjoyed those last bits as

:23:11.:23:16.

much as anything because they were in control defensively. If Swift had

:23:17.:23:22.

held off, he would have pushed him into the area. I think on those

:23:23.:23:26.

kicks, you have got to try and score. Nathan Massey is one of the

:23:27.:23:35.

honest labourers. We have got a cup tie now! Junior Moors rumbling

:23:36.:23:45.

forward. McShane. Gale. Zak Hardaker getting involved. Eight and a bit

:23:46.:23:54.

minutes still to play. Nathan Massey running in hard. Already up to the

:23:55.:24:03.

last. What are they trying to create here? Back with Roberts. A left

:24:04.:24:09.

footed kick. And with the cat and nobody can stop him what he has got

:24:10.:24:15.

his ball in his hands and Webster gets his second of the afternoon.

:24:16.:24:20.

The precision of the boot of Ben Roberts. Determination in the air

:24:21.:24:30.

from Jake Webster, meaning another Castleford try. We talked about

:24:31.:24:34.

Roberts kicking and I think that is what was meant with the previous

:24:35.:24:38.

one. Give him a bit more time in the hour. It allows Chase to time his

:24:39.:24:49.

challenge. There is the penalty. And it is rightly a penalty. Swift

:24:50.:24:55.

challenge. This one is lofted that bit higher. As it is higher, Webster

:24:56.:24:59.

holds off, then accelerates, takes the ball and it is four points. When

:25:00.:25:04.

it is a flatter kick, it is easier for the defence to gather it. On

:25:05.:25:11.

this occasion, he can run and attack it. If it is hanging, it is very

:25:12.:25:14.

difficult for the defender to jump. He has got to wait and wait. Just

:25:15.:25:20.

watch. He is not sure. Because he is running towards it, it is easier for

:25:21.:25:23.

the attacker. That is what you have got to do. On those occasions, the

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kick is to score the try. I love it when you prove me wrong! I didn't

:25:30.:25:47.

say anything! I will get you after. 14-4. 16? Never in doubt. Never in

:25:48.:25:57.

doubt. Two out of three. 16-4. How do St Helens react now? Jon Wilkin

:25:58.:26:04.

is on the field. How do they react? In a positive manner because they

:26:05.:26:07.

scrapped their way back into the game. This isn't supposed to be

:26:08.:26:13.

easy. There is a big prize at the end of it. Castleford look far more

:26:14.:26:20.

threatening in attack. They have got to bring Tom Makinson, Swift and

:26:21.:26:25.

Grace back into the attack somehow. The only weapon they have is the

:26:26.:26:26.

kick. Castleford look so dangerous. Good defence by Mark Percival.

:26:27.:26:55.

Nathan Massey. They are going wide again. Going wide again. What about

:26:56.:27:01.

that pick up from Eden? He is away now and he looks for support with a

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dummy. Great cover tackle. Absolutely vital tackle from James

:27:07.:27:10.

Roby. Hangs on as long as he can. Here comes the flood, the tide,

:27:11.:27:15.

washing up against the sea wall of St Helens as Webster is held up with

:27:16.:27:22.

one tackle to go. But Shane goes right. Dummy, twist, turn, over the

:27:23.:27:29.

line and touches down! Not the prettiest try you will ever see in

:27:30.:27:33.

the end, that there was plenty to admire in the build-up. And never

:27:34.:27:38.

mind the finish. Heal the force of the celebration from the Castleford

:27:39.:27:45.

fans again. -- feel the force of the celebration. There is no other team

:27:46.:27:49.

in Super League capable of scoring back-to-back tries. They have just

:27:50.:27:54.

scored one so what do they do? They look to how may you and they look to

:27:55.:27:58.

score once again. That is exactly what they did. Superb play. What

:27:59.:28:05.

skill from Greg Eden. He picked that up from his bootlaces. What do you

:28:06.:28:11.

do to get back in the team? What James Roby does. Work hard and

:28:12.:28:15.

tackle well. Then a shift once again. This is when Kevin indicated

:28:16.:28:20.

how important Paul McShane is. A canny old campaigner. Scanning,

:28:21.:28:27.

scanning, scanning. Looking at where St Helens are weak. A little twist,

:28:28.:28:33.

a little turn, four points. A very good finish again. They won't be

:28:34.:28:37.

happy with the defence. But brilliant play. You can just feel

:28:38.:28:43.

the confidence oozing from this Castleford side. Supportive players.

:28:44.:28:51.

They are playing brilliant rugby. They are just smart, Jonathan, just

:28:52.:28:57.

smart. Everyone feels comfortable with the ball in hand and that is

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such a bonus. Brilliant pick up. Brilliant by Greg Eden.

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27 tries they have scored this season. As he curled it wide? Yes.

:29:14.:29:27.

Too much work on that. 20-4, Castleford with the lead. It was

:29:28.:29:33.

clever. He virtually puts the player out there. Looking all the time. He

:29:34.:29:37.

has got the ball with two hands, looking to pass it. He sees somebody

:29:38.:29:42.

jump the line then he twists and turns his way over. Great try. It is

:29:43.:29:54.

not enough just to tackle Mike McGeechan. You have got to get the

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ball. Paul McShane was looking to get the ball as well. Here they go

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again! Castleford are on fire. Roberts looks on the outside, goes

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for the chip, Greg Minikin! Wow! Castleford! That tells you their

:30:19.:30:23.

story. In 30 eye-catching seconds, you have got what Castleford are all

:30:24.:30:32.

about. Razzle-dazzle, risk-taking, flamboyant, try scoring. You have

:30:33.:30:35.

just got to sit back and admire it. The individual talent, the spotting.

:30:36.:30:42.

Roberts picks a big forward up and he goes. Zak Hardaker on the inside.

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He lives for him first and he could have gone but it is a beautiful get.

:30:47.:30:52.

-- he looks for him first. That is not easy to do on the hoof. A

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bouncing kick. And it is Greg Minikin. Back to back-to-back tries.

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Great assessment by Roberts. James Roby was stopping that path on the

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inside. He assessed the situation, rolled it onto his boot, trusted

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Greg Minikin's pace and that is the end result, three tries in three

:31:17.:31:18.

sets. They have reinvented rugby league!

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Do you want to go through them all? Classic Castleford in the modern

:31:29.:31:36.

age. Reinventing rugby league. Is there a rugby league team in the

:31:37.:31:39.

world that's playing like this at the moment? Unless you're playing

:31:40.:31:44.

against them, it's the best 80 minutes you can have, just sit back,

:31:45.:31:49.

get a cup of tea, put your feet on the sofa and just enjoy it. So many

:31:50.:31:57.

decision-makers, quick players, brilliant play. Brilliant ten

:31:58.:32:03.

minutes. He's not got it right, to far right it started.

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Body language is a lot to go by when things are going well and they are

:32:10.:32:15.

not. St Helens players looking up the field, Paul Wellington getting

:32:16.:32:21.

right into the players, making sure they get their heads back into this

:32:22.:32:30.

game. How do you respond to this? If you're Paul Wellens, how do you

:32:31.:32:36.

respond to this? They have to complete a defensive set. The last

:32:37.:32:40.

three sets they've ended up with points against them. They have to

:32:41.:32:45.

focus on this defensive set, not giving any penalties away and

:32:46.:32:48.

executing the tackles and attempting to pressure the kicker. Stop the

:32:49.:32:52.

off-load, they are on fire, they will chuck everything at them. You

:32:53.:32:57.

have to be aggressive, pick support runners up. Just be in their face.

:32:58.:33:03.

You can't just let them steam-roll you because they are too

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comfortable. We've gone from cup tie to short time in three breathtaking

:33:08.:33:14.

minutes here -- show time. Castleford the entertainers. McShane

:33:15.:33:24.

left again, the step from Junior Murez. Just when you thought the

:33:25.:33:27.

fringes were under threat. That fellow comes crashing to the middle.

:33:28.:33:33.

It's going to be a drop goal. Everything comes out of the box.

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Luke Gale with a drop goal. I was on to say what's the point of that,

:33:42.:33:44.

it's one point. What is the point of that. Slow play of the ball. Four

:33:45.:33:55.

sets, three tries and a drop goal. Just keep the scoreboard ticking

:33:56.:34:02.

over. The ball was back. I can feel the DVD coming on. Three tries and a

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drop goal. He hasn't kicked so well, the only downside of that

:34:12.:34:12.

performance. Not made many conversions. I don't think he lacks

:34:13.:34:20.

confidence! This time last year, Luke Gale, 13 appearances, one try,

:34:21.:34:25.

43 goals. His 13th appearance this ten tries and so far 65 goals. 20

:34:26.:34:34.

more goals than his gold, nine more tries than in the same period last

:34:35.:34:44.

year. He makes things happen as well,. Gets near the posts like

:34:45.:34:52.

every good half-backs. Here she is. Seize the gap and ashes into it.

:34:53.:34:58.

Shenton holding him off if he can. Dragged back. Tackles to come. Gale

:34:59.:35:08.

stepping again. Good step from McShane. Another of the big fellows.

:35:09.:35:12.

Snisla Gale. Massey. Nathan Massey, if he's

:35:13.:35:24.

got this it will be his first try of the season. The referee on the field

:35:25.:35:30.

thinks it's a try. Is he going to be added to the list? The roll of

:35:31.:35:32.

honour. He keeps hold of the ball all the

:35:33.:35:48.

way to the right, it's in his hand and he has possession, still has

:35:49.:35:54.

possession it goes out of shot. The ball is out of shot still in his

:35:55.:35:58.

hands and that's a try. Can Miguel from the other angle if he gets his

:35:59.:36:05.

hands all the way on it? Whilst he may lose it, he can get his hand

:36:06.:36:08.

back on the ball before the line, still has his hands on that, that a

:36:09.:36:13.

try, confirm the decision, it's a try. Wait for this cheer. We

:36:14.:36:27.

wandered the Saints have any answers. The answer is no they

:36:28.:36:31.

haven't. They had been cut to pieces by this Castleford attack. There is

:36:32.:36:37.

the coach. Across the pitch before the half-time hooter sounds. What a

:36:38.:36:41.

job he has done but what a job Luke Gale has done. That pass for Massey

:36:42.:36:47.

was absolutely perfect. It invited Massey into that gap. Over it goes,

:36:48.:36:54.

that will be the last action of the first half. Gale puts it over, 31-4.

:36:55.:37:00.

He's a happy man, he deserves to be a happy man, they are happy fellers.

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They have provided an answer to St Helens's fightback when it came and

:37:08.:37:10.

they responded in unbelievable fashion. Michael Shenton is now

:37:11.:37:16.

speaking with us. Tough first half but when you look at the scoreboard

:37:17.:37:19.

how happy are you? We knew it would be a tough battle against Saints,

:37:20.:37:24.

one of the best teams. We wanted a fast start and we got that. You just

:37:25.:37:29.

ploughed away for 15 minutes at the end. Once we got on the role, we

:37:30.:37:36.

kept executing. Real positive first half but big 40 minutes to go.

:37:37.:37:44.

Castleford, remarkable half. Particular remarkable last ten

:37:45.:37:54.

minutes on the first half. They lead 31-4 and we can assure you various

:37:55.:37:59.

stats from the first half, although whatever stands you see probably,

:38:00.:38:06.

Castleford with more possession, territory. Conceded more penalties

:38:07.:38:09.

and when they conceded the penalties, it was when Castleford

:38:10.:38:12.

fans were at their most nervous. Sam Tomkins, the one thing it doesn't

:38:13.:38:17.

show is that approaching the half-hour, they were only 10-4 up

:38:18.:38:20.

and they have blitzed St Helens in the last ten minutes. A period in

:38:21.:38:25.

the middle of the first half when the tide was turning, it was with

:38:26.:38:29.

Saints and spending a bit of time on the Castleford line. The longer it

:38:30.:38:33.

stays like this the more likely they were looking. Elect Castleford off

:38:34.:38:39.

the hook, Adam Swist in the corner with a silly penalty. Someday let

:38:40.:38:41.

that shouldn't be giving penalties like that. They kick the ball ten

:38:42.:38:49.

metres downfield and go from there. You could just start to feel a few

:38:50.:38:54.

nerves around Castleford fans and that will come when you are 10-4 up

:38:55.:38:59.

and you're scoring 50 pints a week and you are not doing it for a

:39:00.:39:02.

period then they started to get nervous. I thought that was

:39:03.:39:10.

incredible. Great performance. 10-4 when the try gets chalked off, you

:39:11.:39:14.

think Saints are in the game and then they bring on Ben Roberts who

:39:15.:39:17.

had a massive influence in the second part of the first half. When

:39:18.:39:24.

the stats came up, completion rate for St Helens, 43%. If you're going

:39:25.:39:28.

to play a conservative style of football, 43% doesn't do it. If you

:39:29.:39:32.

throw the ball about, you can maybe get away with it, not playing

:39:33.:39:37.

conservatively. When we go through the tries and there are a lot to go

:39:38.:39:40.

through and we start with the Shenton try. A tweet came into as

:39:41.:39:45.

saying it's another shocking defensive performance from Saints,

:39:46.:39:49.

they have to close the gaps in the line. Is that fair or not giving

:39:50.:39:54.

Castleford enough credit? It's a fair reflection, what happened in

:39:55.:39:57.

the last ten minutes of the first half we'll talk about later about

:39:58.:40:00.

momentum and managing the game but there are some decisions being made

:40:01.:40:04.

by certain defenders and they don't do it purposely, shape and speed

:40:05.:40:08.

thrown at them. Just happens to be that this is a poor read from

:40:09.:40:13.

Morgan, the centre. Looking at the inside and what might happen on the

:40:14.:40:17.

inside because they are man on man, have enough defenders to make a play

:40:18.:40:25.

and Shenton bounces outside the defender. The next time he sees it,

:40:26.:40:28.

Shenton is over the line. Shenton has halted his line and bounced out,

:40:29.:40:34.

running the outline and left him for dead and Morgan is looking to the

:40:35.:40:39.

inside to the ball carrier and gets caught called. Machis has done

:40:40.:40:43.

everything you would want him to do, gone off the lead and Luke Gale put

:40:44.:40:48.

him under pressure, three on three. -- Matty Smith has done everything.

:40:49.:40:56.

Smith with the first two IC has got. This is big on little. He gets too

:40:57.:41:04.

far in front of St Helens defensive line which leads him on Jake Webster

:41:05.:41:07.

who is huge. He needs all the help he can get and it's interesting to

:41:08.:41:12.

see big on small. Stop there, Percival has got in front of it.

:41:13.:41:19.

Webster can't help pages in relation to the defence -- Fages. He can't

:41:20.:41:24.

make the decision to go out to stop the sweeping play around the back. I

:41:25.:41:30.

think Jake Webster on Fages is a mismatch at any time. That's another

:41:31.:41:35.

poor defensive read. The past selection from Castleford today has

:41:36.:41:39.

been outstanding. Great width from Paul McShane, the wide pass through

:41:40.:41:43.

either of the haves and on the back of that they have had options and

:41:44.:41:46.

picking the right pass every time. At that point we were thinking that

:41:47.:41:51.

Saints would get blitzed away but they got back into it, Ryan Morgan

:41:52.:41:56.

got his try. They got straight back into it by doing the simple things

:41:57.:42:01.

right. Cat although the ball for a few cents, they didn't try to score

:42:02.:42:05.

on every single play. Matty Smith, the perfect kick a great catch. That

:42:06.:42:10.

got them straight back into it. We were talking earlier on, that kicks

:42:11.:42:14.

selection, just inside where the winger is. The winner has to make an

:42:15.:42:18.

effort to come. Later on with the Castleford try. If that kick as a

:42:19.:42:23.

metre shorter or further it's not a try. Perfect kick and catch. That

:42:24.:42:28.

emphasises the fine margins in kicking. We will look two kicks know

:42:29.:42:32.

on which the game could have turned. It did turn in that half. Matty

:42:33.:42:39.

Smith with a poor kick and Ben Roberts on the kick that led to

:42:40.:42:45.

Castleford's next try. I think it's a very good kick, just the decision

:42:46.:42:50.

from Swift to make the tackle on Greg Egan whilst he in the air and

:42:51.:42:53.

that gives away penalty. The kick is a very good one. On the flip side,

:42:54.:42:59.

Ben Roberts puts this click right above Fages, we seen a real change

:43:00.:43:03.

in kicks selection from halves. Instead of clicking on the double

:43:04.:43:07.

winners, the kick on top of the opposite haves because they tend to

:43:08.:43:14.

be shorter in stature. That's bigger big difference in the game? The

:43:15.:43:20.

turnaround from that penalty and then to concede the try, that give

:43:21.:43:25.

the advantage to Castleford and St Helens seem to crumble on the back

:43:26.:43:29.

of that. That it allowed try at one end and scoring a try at the other

:43:30.:43:33.

end gave Castleford the start and momentum for the last ten minutes

:43:34.:43:37.

and we all thought, was it four tries, in 6 cents. Wow. In six sets.

:43:38.:43:51.

You have to give manage. If they score one they are looking to be

:43:52.:43:55.

more expensive, they will find the off-load and I thought defensively

:43:56.:43:59.

St Helens could not build a defensive set to get them back into

:44:00.:44:02.

the game to kick the ball as they did for the middle 20 minutes of the

:44:03.:44:06.

half, they ground their way in there and got to the right end of the

:44:07.:44:09.

field and were in the game at 10-4. The game is gone now those of the

:44:10.:44:14.

last ten minutes and at times their reluctance to not defend and not

:44:15.:44:19.

even making these decisions defensively. We will see the McShane

:44:20.:44:24.

try in the run-off prize at the end and four sets of defenders scrambled

:44:25.:44:29.

back to make a huge play but it is cup tie football, trapdoor football.

:44:30.:44:34.

You have to be better than that. Let's look at the Paul McShane try.

:44:35.:44:37.

You mentioned it pre-match but Saints have to take responsibility

:44:38.:44:43.

for this. A lot of the good play from Castleford today has come from.

:44:44.:44:50.

This is the break first. Great pick-up from Eden. When he's in

:44:51.:44:56.

dummy half he's got a shimmy, step, spin, he asks questions. When he

:44:57.:45:02.

gets here he ends up being too strong and has the presence of mind

:45:03.:45:08.

to put the ball over the line. Here he comes out into the picture. You

:45:09.:45:14.

can see, Brian, there are six defenders, four and round him. Take

:45:15.:45:18.

nothing away from Paul McShane's progress, strong and quick and he

:45:19.:45:22.

will take any opportunity because he is a sniping little half-backs,

:45:23.:45:26.

hooker but four defenders at the end of the day and you would expect

:45:27.:45:33.

that... Soft dry. When the preview this game they would have previewed

:45:34.:45:39.

Paul McShane, he's short, stocky and really strong. When Saints review

:45:40.:45:42.

this game they will be asking questions about the defending

:45:43.:45:46.

because that would have come of this week in preparation. Let's have a

:45:47.:45:49.

look at the Minikin try it happened below us. Had all of us applauding.

:45:50.:45:55.

It's what you want to see, great rugby league. One-on-one and he's

:45:56.:45:59.

looking around for somebody to pasta, cannot find them and to be

:46:00.:46:03.

running at that speed and to put a kick in that accurately is a tough

:46:04.:46:09.

thing to do but makes it very easy. Ben Roberts introduction was a

:46:10.:46:15.

masterstroke. Saints were right in the game and he has come on and

:46:16.:46:21.

sparked them up. I cannot praise Ben Robertson. These people have kicked

:46:22.:46:27.

the regularly in rugby league. I never got anywhere near that speed

:46:28.:46:30.

but to run at a speed to kick the ball with such accuracy is a skill

:46:31.:46:33.

in itself and we cannot praise enough because basically he has to

:46:34.:46:38.

pick the ball up and put it down. We will see the Massey try as well

:46:39.:46:41.

which was Castleford's six of the half. Is it too simplistic to say

:46:42.:46:51.

that Saints are shell-shocked? They have been blown away. If this is the

:46:52.:46:55.

first minute of the game they don't score the try. Saints have got

:46:56.:46:59.

energy, concluded that 40% and defended a lot. At this point they

:47:00.:47:05.

will be blowing pretty hard and it doesn't look like your defensive

:47:06.:47:09.

line is as you wanted. Although it was a decent try, I think it was a

:47:10.:47:14.

build-up of the last ten minutes of that game which made Saints defence

:47:15.:47:20.

soberly. That was a Saints try from ten years ago. It has been role

:47:21.:47:27.

reversal tonight. Castleford have been brilliant. Jon Wilkin didn't

:47:28.:47:32.

actually come on until half an hour of that half and here is what we

:47:33.:47:37.

could broadcast from his microphone during the last 40 minutes.

:47:38.:47:43.

Old school shirt. What year is that from? It's your mums. Borrowed it

:47:44.:47:50.

from your mum. We've got a job on here, this bench. Now let's go,

:47:51.:47:56.

boys. Keep going, do that exact same play again. Here go, this is what

:47:57.:48:02.

you get. This is what you get. Good stint.

:48:03.:48:06.

Brian Noble, what do you say in the dressing room at half-time after a

:48:07.:48:31.

last ten minutes like that? There's an element of shock, you have to

:48:32.:48:35.

find a couple of things you can Bath the second half on. Got to get into

:48:36.:48:39.

position. When they are in decent position, Castleford were defending

:48:40.:48:44.

well. If they get one try, Saints, they will think they can compete in

:48:45.:48:48.

this game. They have nothing to lose. We'll be be more expensive or

:48:49.:48:53.

give a suffered more opportunities? They have two of their element of

:48:54.:48:57.

control with the ball. They have to stay disciplined. They have been

:48:58.:49:00.

reasonably disciplined and they have to find three things you can hang

:49:01.:49:03.

your hat on and give them relief to go out there and if this happens, if

:49:04.:49:07.

you prepared to invest in this side of the game, you have a chance but

:49:08.:49:11.

you have to defend better than they have. Daryl Powell is out of the

:49:12.:49:19.

dressing room and is with Tanya. I pleased were you with the first hour

:49:20.:49:24.

from your site? Particularly the last 15-20 minute we were awesome.

:49:25.:49:29.

Got into a battle when Saints got on top but found our way out of it and

:49:30.:49:32.

some of the attacking play was sublime times. First ten minutes

:49:33.:49:36.

will be keynote, we have to start well and not give St Helens a sniff

:49:37.:49:39.

that there is something there for them. Do you feel the key is with

:49:40.:49:43.

your site and errors and things like that? I thought that all along, if

:49:44.:49:47.

we were on our game perhaps we would be too good. People always saying

:49:48.:49:51.

never write St Helens off and we won't be doing that.

:49:52.:49:56.

Thank you very much to Daryl Powell for talking to us at half-time. All

:49:57.:50:00.

the other sports coming your way. I know Italy is your favourite, you

:50:01.:50:33.

love the Italian entry. I went for Finland! Castleford Tigers St

:50:34.:50:45.

Helens. 1986 the last ten Castleford won the Challenge Cup final itself.

:50:46.:50:49.

They were in the final in 2014 and lost that day against Kevin

:50:50.:50:57.

Sinfield's Leeds side. 23-10. They didn't have sufficient belief going

:50:58.:51:00.

into that Wembley final. If they make it to Wembley this year,

:51:01.:51:05.

they'll have belief. That is taken as read. The way the club has

:51:06.:51:12.

evolves, the way the team has evolved. There is an indication

:51:13.:51:18.

straightaway in the second half, early in the tackle count, right on

:51:19.:51:24.

their own line, they shift the ball. Is the ability to vary their play.

:51:25.:51:27.

The distribution that they have. Everyone is comfortable. They take

:51:28.:51:34.

it up and they go wide and the yardage, getting most tackles. Makes

:51:35.:51:40.

it such an easy kicking game for the half-backs. Up on tackle five. On

:51:41.:51:52.

the sixth. The young fellow was back on. Tom Holmes and another young

:51:53.:51:58.

fellow up there will catch it and not able to keep it in play. The

:51:59.:52:02.

pressure on him. We talked about Robertson 's kicking. Pretty

:52:03.:52:09.

standard for Castleford. Putting the ball into the corner. If you catch

:52:10.:52:14.

anywhere near the sidelines you get walloped. When he went over the

:52:15.:52:23.

sideline, I don't know. Might have been dealt a rotten hand, Reagan

:52:24.:52:31.

Grace. Very unlucky. Castleford fans watching will wonder if Grant

:52:32.:52:36.

Millington had been given that, for example. You think Ben Roberts...

:52:37.:52:45.

It's been seen that he's done enough. A bit of a reach from Gale

:52:46.:52:59.

from Sene-Lefao. The St Helens defence continuing to work. Pushed

:53:00.:53:00.

in. It's with Cook pushing hard. Gale

:53:01.:53:21.

left. Shenton stands. St Helens players round him up and put him

:53:22.:53:33.

down. McShane threatening again. Webster coming from deep, into the

:53:34.:53:41.

hands of Minikin. Looks like St Helens are in constant scramble

:53:42.:53:43.

defence mode. Scrambling everywhere to keep the Tigers out. Sean go from

:53:44.:53:53.

Junior Moors. Takes something to get him closer to the line then he would

:53:54.:53:58.

have wanted. Gale is going to go himself. The ball comes free.

:53:59.:54:05.

Hardaker flicks it back. This step and well, has he touched it down?

:54:06.:54:09.

Was there an issue in the build-up as well? He thinks try. Looking at

:54:10.:54:20.

the grounding potentially. Let's hear from the video referee. First

:54:21.:54:30.

to check the flawed and whether the tackle is complete. We will have to

:54:31.:54:38.

work out, Gale had the ball, whether his elbow at the four and whether he

:54:39.:54:40.

has off-loaded. I could do with that replay again

:54:41.:54:58.

slower so I can see it all from further back. Gale has the ball, he

:54:59.:55:07.

goes towards the floor, his arm doesn't hit the floor on that

:55:08.:55:13.

replay, he's still up. It is still up and appears to off-load. Doesn't

:55:14.:55:19.

off-load backwards and then is the St Helens man. Wasn't tackle but

:55:20.:55:22.

there could be a knock-on, so we have to check if you lose is it

:55:23.:55:25.

forward or back. From the site we might be able to tell. The live

:55:26.:55:33.

decision was tried, so Gale reaches out, he then doesn't hit the floor,

:55:34.:55:38.

the ball comes out it then appears to be lost into the St Helens man.

:55:39.:55:47.

Can we have that one again? The live decision is tried, so we need

:55:48.:55:50.

sufficient evidence to prove it when forward. Gale has the ball there.

:55:51.:56:00.

Starting to reach back and reach back and he loses it back into a

:56:01.:56:09.

Saints man and then backwards again, that's play on. I just won the

:56:10.:56:20.

grounding now please. It's about whether Egan goes into touch. He's

:56:21.:56:25.

in the ear, grabs the ball, that's a try. -- he is in the air. 16th try

:56:26.:56:42.

of the season for Greg Eden. Only his 14th appearance. Seventh try of

:56:43.:56:45.

the afternoon for Castleford, six different try scorers. Again, you

:56:46.:56:50.

have to look at it, the half-backs goes on, you have to wrap that all

:56:51.:56:56.

up. It's another off-load, brilliant finish by Eden. I agree with John,

:56:57.:57:00.

it's as if they're scrambling all the time in this game. They knew

:57:01.:57:05.

Castleford would throw everything at them, they knew they are playing a

:57:06.:57:09.

fold of confidence. So many tries, you have to get in their faces,

:57:10.:57:14.

chuck them on the floor, hold them down, take support runners. Yes,

:57:15.:57:18.

it's not legal, it doesn't matter, you have to win the game and in

:57:19.:57:21.

their faces and be aggressive. They are so passive. They are just

:57:22.:57:29.

struggling. Great athleticism there from Eden brilliant finish. Another

:57:30.:57:34.

spectacular finish. It's like Castleford are on fast forward and

:57:35.:57:41.

St Helens on normal play. Just for anybody wondering, corner flags

:57:42.:57:47.

don't count these days. There is a knock-on. Minikin for the second

:57:48.:57:50.

time of the game is furious with that decision. He needs to be

:57:51.:57:55.

careful. Could be giving a penalty away here. Got a bit of reaction

:57:56.:58:04.

from that, it's going to be a penalty. Basingstoke on Minikin --

:58:05.:58:13.

Basingstoke on Minikin has given away the penalty. It's a penalty

:58:14.:58:20.

because of his reaction. McCarthy-Scarsbrook drives it in.

:58:21.:58:26.

Smith. Left without it and McShane instantly looking to try and launch

:58:27.:58:36.

something forward. Ambitions quashed by the reaction of Fages.

:58:37.:58:48.

Sene-Lefao. Thumping tackle in the back. This is meant to be a long

:58:49.:58:52.

second half for the Saints players, management and supporters. Junior

:58:53.:58:59.

Moors on the ground again. Doesn't mind taking passengers with him.

:59:00.:59:08.

Lovely. Wants to catch it, wants to play. The referee says play on. I

:59:09.:59:15.

think it was unnecessary what he did, he pulled the St Helens player

:59:16.:59:21.

away from the ruck area. That may well be part of his frustration from

:59:22.:59:26.

his early last ball but it was a little petulant. Just pulled him

:59:27.:59:30.

away and it's cost Castleford here a great attacking position.

:59:31.:59:40.

Six penalties conceded, the penalty count normally would suggest you are

:59:41.:59:49.

reading by 35 - four -- the penalty count wouldn't suggest you are

:59:50.:59:53.

leading 35-4. Hill indicates a couple of things, Castleford can't

:59:54.:59:59.

defend and when -- Castleford can defend them when they get the ball,

:00:00.:00:05.

they are pretty ruthless. Smith has given it to nobody. He's away

:00:06.:00:13.

Minikin. Support from Holmes. For the corner. Swift living up to his

:00:14.:00:19.

name but Holmes rolls over and touches down. Is this going to be

:00:20.:00:25.

given? We're off upstairs again to the video referee. Now try, in

:00:26.:00:31.

touch, he thinks. We will hear from the video referee again.

:00:32.:00:41.

We'll check each runs the ball. He's sure there and has momentum, we have

:00:42.:00:49.

two check if it takes him with them. Whether his feet go into touch. He's

:00:50.:00:54.

in touch, we don't need to go any further than that. He's in touch so

:00:55.:00:55.

it will be now try. Scrum. That passage of play sums again up

:00:56.:01:13.

for me. Poor passing from St Helens and then they get down the field.

:01:14.:01:19.

The execution is bought by St Helens and they don't look creative. A pat

:01:20.:01:29.

on the back for the wingers there. Swift continued the good work and

:01:30.:01:33.

put Tom Holmes into touch. Something to build on that in terms of spirit

:01:34.:01:35.

for the Saints. The World Cup will be on BBC TV at

:01:36.:01:46.

the end of this year of course. November to December.

:01:47.:01:58.

Wilkin. Amor! Look at the body language. You don't need a

:01:59.:02:11.

microphone to tell what Jon Wilkin is thinking. Restoration would sum

:02:12.:02:19.

it up best. -- frustration would sum it up best.

:02:20.:02:42.

Well, Justin Holbrook might be watching this. He will think, my

:02:43.:02:52.

word, I have got a job on. I think he has gone to bed now!

:02:53.:03:01.

Paul McShane. Mike McMeeken tackle. Keeping it alive. Dale puts it over

:03:02.:03:20.

the top. -- Gale puts it over the top and in he goes again! Second try

:03:21.:03:27.

of the half, second of the game. Easy, easy is the chart. Easy on the

:03:28.:03:33.

eye? Very definitely. Easy to execute. You need very high skill

:03:34.:03:43.

levels but that is what Castleford have got. It is difficult to execute

:03:44.:03:47.

those skills as accurately as they are doing. The other thing that

:03:48.:03:51.

Castleford have got is decision-making. Superb. That is the

:03:52.:03:58.

header from Jon Wilkin to Gale. It gave the position. They are looking

:03:59.:04:03.

to come from the right-hand side. There it goes again. This is what I

:04:04.:04:08.

mean about execution and decision making. He sees where the space is

:04:09.:04:16.

and he nails the pass for Greg Eden. Superb pass and great finish. They

:04:17.:04:20.

will try and off-load it every time there is an opportunity. They chuck

:04:21.:04:24.

it out the back door and it goes to ground, twice. Defence is dragged

:04:25.:04:30.

in. A beautiful pass. The execution has been brilliant this afternoon by

:04:31.:04:38.

Castleford. Top scorer this year in the top flight, Greg Eden. There

:04:39.:04:47.

will be plenty more. Plenty more this afternoon if St Helens don't

:04:48.:04:55.

tighten up. He steadied himself again. Has he found the range this

:04:56.:05:02.

time? Yes, he has. His fourth success out of eight. 41-4. What do

:05:03.:05:08.

you say, Robbie? Interesting changing dynamics on the last time I

:05:09.:05:15.

was on screen. And how the St Helens players are dealing with it. Nobody

:05:16.:05:19.

talking and everybody looking at the field. They know Castleford are

:05:20.:05:23.

white hot and they have just got to hold on. Have you noticed Robbie is

:05:24.:05:27.

getting slower and his delivery is more breathless? I will leave that

:05:28.:05:39.

with you! 41-4! A proper cup tie after 30 minutes played. It was

:05:40.:05:44.

really close, know this stuff, 10-4 at that stage. When you see the

:05:45.:05:52.

draw, Castleford have lucked out and St Helens, you salivate and you

:05:53.:05:55.

think it will be tough and tight and it could go either way. But the guys

:05:56.:06:03.

have struggled. Any eight minutes before the break and the ten minutes

:06:04.:06:07.

after it, they have scored 31 unanswered points. -- in the eight

:06:08.:06:17.

minutes. Luke Gale is off again! Take your pick but he took the wrong

:06:18.:06:21.

pick. He thought he could do it himself. If he had passed, it would

:06:22.:06:26.

have been a Greg Eden hat-trick. Probably the only thing he has done

:06:27.:06:29.

wrong all afternoon except missing those goal kicks. This fellow can

:06:30.:06:39.

fly given half a chance. Alex Walmsley.

:06:40.:06:48.

An occasion where we have not been able to admire the brilliance of

:06:49.:06:54.

Alex Walmsley because of his side in general. Another pass. That is the

:06:55.:07:00.

difference, the execution and the passing. Castleford make it look

:07:01.:07:07.

easy because it is absolutely on the nail and St Helens are looking

:07:08.:07:16.

scruffy. Wilkin. Watching it come down. We had decided to twist on

:07:17.:07:21.

that and let someone else take responsibility. The bounds of the

:07:22.:07:29.

ball takes it out of play. -- the bounce of the ball takes it out of

:07:30.:07:36.

play. The first thing that Justin Holbrook will have to do is lift the

:07:37.:07:41.

spirits of this team. And the fans. By doing it with the team will make

:07:42.:07:46.

it happen with the fans as well. Their body language, it just looks

:07:47.:07:51.

like a dispirited group of people. There is no sharpness, no control

:07:52.:08:06.

from half-backs. They have a new tradition, they play a song, and

:08:07.:08:10.

usually it is a boy of celebration from the fans. Webster comes an with

:08:11.:08:17.

great sticking to him like a lipid and pulling him down. -- Webster

:08:18.:08:27.

comes on with Grace sticking to him like a limp limpet.

:08:28.:08:36.

Jesse Sene-Lefao is caught but not with the ball. The chase is on. Zak

:08:37.:08:57.

Hardaker after it. Was he knocked out of the way? Yes. Obstructed on

:08:58.:09:03.

his way through and penalty for Castleford underneath the sticks.

:09:04.:09:06.

Shoulder charged off the ball. That is what I mean about the

:09:07.:09:10.

decision-making. We saw it with Roberts's kick. Just before the Luke

:09:11.:09:18.

Gale try. They got the ball behind them. It is good decision-making but

:09:19.:09:24.

I doubt that he would have got there. Usain Bolt wouldn't have got

:09:25.:09:29.

to bed. Theatrical dive, good decision and they have got

:09:30.:09:35.

possession back. You can't use your shoulder, whatever the situation. It

:09:36.:09:40.

is like watching the Harlem globetrotter is at times.

:09:41.:09:53.

Eden to Gale. Tom Holmes across to Mike McMeeken. Arms pinned to his

:09:54.:10:03.

chest. The quickest player of the born-again. Millington, Gale, the

:10:04.:10:12.

path picked up by Greg Eden. Greg Eden's fires inside. Zak Hardaker to

:10:13.:10:21.

Webster, Webster injects. Hanging on. They have got the number here

:10:22.:10:25.

down the right-hand side. They might have the numbers but not the

:10:26.:10:31.

wherewithal on that occasion. Final play to go. Luke Gale from a

:10:32.:10:35.

standing start. Touched by a St Helens player on the way through.

:10:36.:10:40.

When Morgan takes it, he knows he has got to take it out of play.

:10:41.:10:51.

The Castleford fans are really enjoying their afternoon. You can

:10:52.:10:56.

see what Luke Gale was trying to do with that kick. The bit short but it

:10:57.:11:05.

ricocheted off the Saints. 20 off-loads by Castleford and 19 by

:11:06.:11:10.

Saints. But you can see the support play in the second wave of attack,

:11:11.:11:15.

that is the difference between Castleford and St Helens. And the

:11:16.:11:19.

decision-making. Castleford's off-loads have been really creative

:11:20.:11:23.

and they have asked questions of the Saints defence consistently. Luke

:11:24.:11:30.

Gale stoops and collectors. Zak Hardaker gets away. Eden back

:11:31.:11:36.

towards the middle. Gale begins his scamper. Over the top. Greg Minikin

:11:37.:11:45.

finds Grace in his face. A bit of attitude still in the St Helens

:11:46.:11:49.

defensive line and there has got to be. Shoulders in and charge. Two

:11:50.:12:00.

tackles to go in set. Like a boiling pan of water. Will it bubble over?

:12:01.:12:07.

Tom Holmes. Collection again. Last play. Webster trying to overload the

:12:08.:12:16.

numbers. Into the knees of Theo Fages. I think that was an

:12:17.:12:27.

accidental offside. A variety of play. The whip, the passing, the

:12:28.:12:33.

off-loads, but when they need to go forward, the forward sticks it under

:12:34.:12:34.

the arm and takes it in. Round the back with a knock-on. It

:12:35.:12:49.

is Tom Makinson. That is what the offside was. Castleford double the

:12:50.:12:54.

amount of metres that St Helens have made. It is reflected mostly in the

:12:55.:13:06.

scoreboard. 40% set completion has now dropped to 37. Threatening to

:13:07.:13:13.

carry the defenders with him. He has to play the ball. Sometimes in

:13:14.:13:21.

training you have got to attack the defence and it seems like that is

:13:22.:13:29.

what it is. Mike McMeeken, he has given it to the wrong fellow. No

:13:30.:13:36.

advantage to St Helens. Brief respite there! Forward as well, Mike

:13:37.:13:46.

McMeeken. I suppose they can take the chance, or chances. They are

:13:47.:13:51.

certainly going into the bag for the next round. The draw is after that

:13:52.:13:55.

game tomorrow, by the way, Warrington and Widnes. You can see

:13:56.:14:04.

that on the Super League Show on Tuesday, the 23rd of May, a week on

:14:05.:14:09.

Tuesday after that Magic Weekend in Newcastle, and don't forget the

:14:10.:14:12.

podcast as well every Monday afternoon.

:14:13.:14:19.

They have barely been out of their own half, Saints. It is just

:14:20.:14:26.

defence. I am certain that Daryl Powell will be very interested now

:14:27.:14:30.

in Castleford's attitude and application when St Helens have got

:14:31.:14:31.

the ball. James Roby, and was there a touch by

:14:32.:14:46.

Mike McMeeken? Yes. An advantage play, if you like, where they can

:14:47.:14:50.

take a risk because if it doesn't come off, they just go back to the

:14:51.:14:54.

advantage of getting ahead and the scrum. There is an indication of the

:14:55.:15:00.

difference between the two. When Castleford get the free play, they

:15:01.:15:04.

use it as a run in play, and put the ball through hands, but that was

:15:05.:15:08.

just an aimless kick. Nothing was ever going to come from that.

:15:09.:15:25.

Sets completed, it isn't always true science. Castleford will not

:15:26.:15:32.

complete as many as others because they take more risks and they score

:15:33.:15:36.

more tries and they do make mistakes, but I think St Helens have

:15:37.:15:41.

only completed eight out of 21. Terrible statistics from their point

:15:42.:15:49.

of view. Fages with a short pass. Webster came over the line

:15:50.:15:53.

anticipating. The ball has gone to ground. The referee says it has not

:15:54.:16:00.

gone. First to St Helens. Castleford celebrate that moment of the

:16:01.:16:03.

defensive when. It will mean a lot to them. When the ball went loose,

:16:04.:16:12.

just look at the urgency of the Castleford players to claim that

:16:13.:16:17.

loose ball. Good work here by Tom Holmes. The ball goes free and

:16:18.:16:28.

Castleford look hungrier of the two but they are 41 points up. Greg

:16:29.:16:40.

Minikin made his name in the Challenge Cup in his debut for

:16:41.:16:44.

Europe against Catalan a few years ago, in 2013. He had a really good

:16:45.:16:49.

game and that is when he got a lot of people's attention and ended up

:16:50.:16:53.

signing for Castleford. Penalty for Castleford. I believe he played for

:16:54.:17:00.

York against St Helens and Jon Wilkin identified him as a talent to

:17:01.:17:07.

watch and he really is. He has developed, hasn't he? Great kick,

:17:08.:17:15.

that. Big kick. I suppose he has done everything else, hasn't he?

:17:16.:17:24.

Luke Gale may as well put one in. 18 minutes of the game remaining and

:17:25.:17:27.

Castleford with their entertainment heads on will feel they have got

:17:28.:17:30.

more razzle-dazzle moments to produce on. On their way to the

:17:31.:17:35.

quarterfinals of the Ladbrokes Challenge Cup. Greg Minikin pops it

:17:36.:17:42.

back. It is a hat-trick! A second-half hat-trick for Greg Eden.

:17:43.:17:50.

When you are on the end of play that comes his way, sometimes it is

:17:51.:17:54.

simple to score tries and that was one of those moments. He is a great

:17:55.:17:58.

finisher and he just had to be in the right place at the right time on

:17:59.:18:05.

that occasion. I think he does a lot to enhance the attacking play. He is

:18:06.:18:11.

always a threat. A high shot in the face, beautiful kick by Luke Gale.

:18:12.:18:18.

Just watch Zak Hardaker in the back. Bang. That visit. We have the

:18:19.:18:23.

option. The blaze at Bob. He creates the extra man and he has done that

:18:24.:18:32.

on numerous occasions. All of that is done without breaking stride. To

:18:33.:18:35.

the front of the player, straight into the hands, and they don't break

:18:36.:18:41.

stride. That space down the outside. They keep their depth. If they need

:18:42.:18:44.

to be flagged, they are flagged, but lovely give and take by Michael

:18:45.:18:53.

Shenton. The coaches are enjoying himself. He can relax and enjoy the

:18:54.:19:04.

last minutes. -- the coach is enjoying himself. Daryl Powell

:19:05.:19:08.

probably never thought he would have 20 minutes of playing against St

:19:09.:19:15.

Helens. Today he can. They took Leeds and Wigan apart. They have

:19:16.:19:22.

taken a few people apart. They certainly have. Kicking boots back

:19:23.:19:32.

on. Five out of nine. Greg Eden is a hat-trick hero. Three tries, all in

:19:33.:19:38.

a second-half. One or two have taken some finishing. One or two have been

:19:39.:19:43.

provided on a plate. It doesn't matter how you get there as long as

:19:44.:19:51.

you get there. He has now got 18 tries for the season. It must be a

:19:52.:19:55.

dream to play on the left wing for Castleford. They have such a great

:19:56.:20:01.

left side with Luke Gale and Zak Hardaker and Michael Shenton is a

:20:02.:20:06.

quality centre. The wing man, so long as you hold your safe, you are

:20:07.:20:11.

quick and acrobatic, you will score if you tries. Run-ins as well,

:20:12.:20:23.

aren't they? -- you will score a few tries. What was the most you scored

:20:24.:20:28.

in a season? I don't know, tell you the truth! It has been tremendous

:20:29.:20:34.

since Daryl Powell has been here. The structure and the shape and the

:20:35.:20:38.

execution that Castleford have got, and the decision-making. Changing

:20:39.:20:44.

the subject very quickly. Better side than he ever produced on the

:20:45.:20:52.

field! To deep? Yes. A friendly bump from behind by Paul McShane. St

:20:53.:21:00.

Helens are hurting. This is the end of their cup run. It is not a Super

:21:01.:21:04.

League defeat that they can bounce back from next week. It is over. For

:21:05.:21:13.

me there hasn't been the edge. If you come in here top of the table,

:21:14.:21:16.

you have got to have some dog about you and you need to do whatever it

:21:17.:21:20.

takes to knock them out of their stride and I think they have been

:21:21.:21:24.

too nice. A major rebuilding process to go on at St Helens with the new

:21:25.:21:29.

coach, Justin Holbrook coming in in the next couple of weeks. The

:21:30.:21:38.

coaches holding the reins can only look on. They both remain at the

:21:39.:21:44.

club along with Derek trainer, who has been responsible for the academy

:21:45.:21:48.

and he has done a great job. He will carry on doing that. It is the main

:21:49.:21:56.

man Justin Holbrook who will have the big job on his hands. James Roby

:21:57.:22:04.

at dummy half goes back to Smith and Fages. How many times have we seen

:22:05.:22:13.

that over the season? It puts pressure on when the centres are

:22:14.:22:30.

working hard like that. Forward pass. Great things he is over to

:22:31.:22:34.

score a try but it was a forward pass. -- Grace thinks he is over.

:22:35.:22:40.

Forward pass? No way! But her dad said forward pass. You

:22:41.:23:05.

have to feel for the Saints players. You're under the glare of national

:23:06.:23:09.

television. You're just getting walloped.

:23:10.:23:17.

Here goes the other winger, Minikin. Reaching out for him, cannot put a

:23:18.:23:28.

hand on him. Minikin is underneath the posts. The procession continues.

:23:29.:23:35.

It's quite a gala day at the Jungle today. Castleford, I think it's

:23:36.:23:41.

their tenth trial of the afternoon. They are romping to victory.

:23:42.:23:47.

Beautiful pass, I think it is Tom Holmes. The quickness of the hand

:23:48.:23:55.

just tax it in. The beautiful pass. The skills, the quality of the

:23:56.:24:04.

skill. Bang, bang, gone. Has a lot to do. Poor communication. Slips

:24:05.:24:15.

three defenders and he's away. Greg Eden on the left wing and Minikin on

:24:16.:24:22.

the right. Anything you can do, I can do better. Cracking finish,

:24:23.:24:30.

shows pace, power, the termination. Marvellous try, these two wingers

:24:31.:24:38.

are on fire. Combined total of 33 tries this

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Castleford's 40th game of the season. Gale looking to add another

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two. One of the simpler kicks, right under the sticks. Castleford playing

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with a huge smile on their faces. Got a lot to do. You have to

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communicate. Shows on the inside, Burns you for pace. The matter how

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good Castleford are, one of the purist Saints side I've ever seen.

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Nothing in attack and nothing in defence. There's a lot of rebuilding

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to do here. Matty Smith is going short. Trying to get the ball back

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but all he has done is give Castleford possession. Prodigious

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leap. Webster now. Matt Cooke. We have waxed lyrical

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about the three quarters on the half-backs. Those men in the middle

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do a good job as well. They get them forward with purpose and play the

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ball quickly and they find a space for the hookers and the half-backs

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to play. Andy Lynch, 37 years of age. Still one of the most effective

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props in the game. There are big side. We saw the line-ups. Very big

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side. Pumps it back to Gale. St Helens on the chase. Adam Swift has

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it, trying to get out of the in-goal area. Back to the relative safety of

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the field of play. Another set of six to get themselves downfield.

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Trying to find some space betwixt and between the back three.

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The ground is strangely quiet. Just waiting for the next try. Especially

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with the quality football they are playing. Sunday afternoon,

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entertaining. Ready for the big celebration at the end, I think.

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Gale, ball carried in one hand, Shenton is there to take it. Inside

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and out of Wilkin. The game is on again. With the real honest

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endeavour. They're always ready to go, with every play. He's back

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there, bit of space. Cover the space quickly, almost got away. He just

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had his. Saints's turn to take the ball quickly.

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Angle right down the middle. It's Morgan. Wrapped up and slow down.

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Now it's Matty Smith. Jon Wilkin. Taia is the go to man. He looks the

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only threatening runner they have got. Basically against Tom Holmes

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and there is a big difference in stature. He is off-loading their and

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creating some problems. Castleford defensively are very good. Clear

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push. Let's see if they can defend their own line. That was on Morgan.

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Just ensuring that there is no further repeat of the first-half

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try. Can St Helens find a way over here

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to lift their spirits. Douglas is in! They St Helens fans celebrate as

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though it was a matchwinner. Even the Castleford fans are applauding

:30:31.:30:38.

that. Irony and sarcasm from one end to the other. Shenton giving away

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the penalty and great field position for St Helens. You felt if they were

:30:46.:30:50.

going to score it was either a kick or a clothesline barge over. That's

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exactly what has happened. The kick goes over as well. Taking St Helens

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into double figures. They have ten points. The other lot have got 53.

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Five and a half minutes to go. Some reward for the big prop forward but

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it's been basically an onslaught by the Castleford attack. Efficiency in

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the Castleford defence to snuff out anything that Saints have had. Zach

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Hardaker with the restart, Castleford stung but having conceded

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but still leading by 53-10. Pi will drive it through. Taia will drive it

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through. A Amor picks himself up. Pryor to the

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left-hand side, Little step. Douglas is driving it in. Trying to

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finish the game with a little bit of restored pride. He didn't play that.

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Belated from the referee but fairly obvious. The touch judge said it was

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a knock-on. It's been a great collective effort. Could have given

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it to anyone of them. Challenge Cup mile of the match,

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Luke Gale. Ben Roberts was fantastic for about 20 minutes he was out

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there. Luke Gale has just been in amongst everything.

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Hardaker is hurt. Little bit of late concern here.

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Pretty sure Daryl Powell, they have won the game, he can get to the game

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and not finishes with injuries. This will be a concern. We were going to

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show you the replay but we had a look at it and it's just a little

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bit too graphic. A bend against the normality of biology. The

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ex-professional player himself out there. Current England physio. Will

:34:51.:34:59.

look at Nick -- more make sure he's looked after.

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Gets caught. I'm sure the coach will be indicating who he wants to

:35:15.:35:25.

interchange. And what amendments he has to make to his team for that. He

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is being helped off. There will be some encouragement at the way he's

:35:32.:35:32.

going off. Andy Lynch taking won towards the

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halfway line. Another moment of sparkle to be produced by Castleford

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at the end of the game? Do St Helens show some backbone? Luke Gale stands

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and waits, Andy Lynch to his right. Here comes the last play. What is in

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the locker this time? Luke Gale with another kick into the pocket. It

:36:30.:36:36.

doesn't hold up. Seven tackle play back on the 20 metres. Two and a

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half minutes to go. Don't forget the Warrington Widnes game tomorrow. It

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should be cracking. The guys in amber and Black have really put a

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marker down in this competition. They are saying we are interested in

:36:59.:37:02.

this. We fancy a trip to Wembley and we fancy a successful trip to

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Wembley. It will take a good aggressive defensive effort to stop

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them. Three tackles to go as Fages goes

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down the blindside. Running into a brick wall but they keep it alive.

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Smith. Richards. Smith. Back to Jon Wilkin. This is nice. Richards

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again. Fages nearly smuggles through. Play on. The quarterbacks

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pass from Jesse Sene-Lefao to the near side. The news we are getting

:37:47.:37:54.

an Zak Hardaker is ligament damage but we are not sure how serious.

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A bit of nonsense going on. There we go. Ankle. Yes, the pizzas are

:38:01.:38:13.

ready. Not a bad dressing room to be in. You have won the game, cup tie,

:38:14.:38:18.

and you get a pizza! But Zak Hardaker is not too happy at the

:38:19.:38:21.

moment with that ligament damage. Paul McShane. Jesse Sene-Lefao. Adam

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Milner. The crowd response to that pass. Trying to duck through.

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Carries it. Back to Paul McShane. Walking start. Jesse Sene-Lefao how.

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Michael Shenton has to go on his own because his winger has disappeared.

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Down the middle. Paul McShane was aware of the time

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on the clock there. Absolutely right. 80 minutes. It has been

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joyous and jubilant as far as Castleford are concerned. Big job

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ahead for Justin Holbrook, the new St Helens coach. They are out of the

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Ladbrokes Challenge Cup for another year. Castleford are in the

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quarterfinals and Daryl Powell can reflect on what has been another

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wonderful performance by his side. Another in a catalogue of great

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performances this season. 53-10 and ten tries scored. When the draw was

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made, you thought it was a tricky one for Castleford. They are riding

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on a crest of a way that the top of the Super League, yes, but they

:39:55.:39:57.

dispatched St Helens very clinically. Great attacking play. If

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they can keep their players fit and healthy, they have set a marker and

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they will be very difficult to beat in this knockout competition. We

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could comment on St Helens but we have got to compliment Castleford on

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their excellence. They have been first class. Luke Gale is with

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Tanya. You look like you had fun out there, you guys. We are just a group

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of fellows who enjoy playing footie together. We have fun at training

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and we bring it onto the as well. Our standout performance and that is

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what we have got in the locker. What pleases you more, the point or the

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defensive performance? Last year we were criticised by our defence and

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we knew we had to improve on our defence that we have done that but

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we do enjoy throwing the ball about. You can tell from our performance.

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What a couple of weeks for you, playing for England, great

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performance. How do you sum up the last few weeks? Read few weeks. Went

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and got a suntan. -- great few weeks. We have backed it up today.

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Very happy for the boys. A special group of players down here and

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hopefully we can go a long way in this competition. Another 50 points

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racked up. We like to send the fans home happy. These fans are great. A

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special shout out to them. We can hear them now. They are fantastic.

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Well played. Thank you. I am not sure what to say to you. What was it

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like out there for you? Firstly congratulations to Castleford. They

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have been exceptional all year and they have really set the standard

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and they have played an exciting brand of rugby. Credit to

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Castleford. The Castleford of old is back. All credit to them because

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they were exceptional and Daryl Powell has done an amazing job with

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the team. They will go a long way in this cup and also in Super League.

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From our perspective... It is a long road ahead for you guys with the new

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coach coming in. It doesn't get much worse than we are at the moment. In

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15 years at the time, this is the lowest point. Will that be the

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toughest job for him, picking you guys up? It is a big job, huge job.

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At the moment confidence is gone and self belief disappears and then you

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are in that negative spiral and we are not at the moment and we can't

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get out and we need something to break it. -- we are in that at the

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moment. Castleford have turned us over in good style and they were the

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better side all day and we need some self reflection. We have got some

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really hard work to do, to be honest, the honest answer. I

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appreciate your time. A gutted Jon Wilkin shakes Robbie's

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hand as he goes off the pitch. This is the sport coming your way on the

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BBC. We are going to move to the red forum very shortly. #BBCRL if you

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want to get involved. Sam, Castleford have polled 50

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points on Leeds, Huddersfield, Wigan and Saints of the season. That is

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some record. Everyone has said it, Plassey Castleford. They threw the

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ball around really well. We touched on it earlier. The defence has

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improved. The only reason they get him a chance to throw the ball

:43:44.:43:46.

around is because the defence is solid as well. Plenty more

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discussion of reaction on the red forum. But you can see how

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devastated Jon Wilkin was. This is big work for the new coach at

:43:55.:43:59.

Saints. I thought he spoke eloquently about, especially off the

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back of that defeat. You talk about confidence and self belief. They

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need to work hard and try and get it back. Don't address made a difficult

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it was coming here at this moment. 50 points on most teams this year.

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-- don't underestimate how difficult it was coming here at this moment.

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There is so much rugby league coming your way in 2017.

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Mark Chapman presents live coverage of the Challenge Cup sixth-round clash between Castleford and St Helens. Joining Brian Noble and Jonathan Davies is former Leeds and England captain Kevin Sinfield. Reporting is Tanya Arnold, with Dave Woods providing the commentary.