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It is the history, it is the passion. It is instilled in new from

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a youngster. Pride, it is the wee against the big man. 1990, it does

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not get any better than that. Scotland have won a famous victory.

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Playing against 15 mad Scotsman, it is tough. Scary. Intimidated. What a

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struggle. As long as you get your retaliation in first, you might be

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in with a chance of winning. You never lose against England. We never

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expected to lose against Scotland. Never lose. Never lose. Failure is

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not an option. Just don't lose to England. You never lose against

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Scotland. You never, never lose to England.

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The Auld Enemy gala dinner last night. 700 years on from

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Bannockburn, 743 after the country first met on rugby field. Random

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anniversaries will count for nothing. It is about two side is

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recovering from an opening weekend defeat, desperate to get off the

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mark, only too well aware that however much people tried to

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underplay the political undertones, Scotland against England is never

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just another match. And while both these teams look for

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an opening victory, Ireland have played two and won two after an

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emphatic victory this afternoon. Ireland's next stop is took on in a

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couple of weeks time. Here we are in Murrayfield. Not ideal conditions

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overhead. It could be a lot worse. Not ideal conditions underfoot. The

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pitch has come in for a barrage of criticism. Some areas looked

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dreadful. It will have an effect on the quality of what we see in the

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next couple of hours, in the company of Auld Enemy, Jeremy Guscott and

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John Inverdale. Both sides have known about this. They should have,

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tactically, it is huge. Sexton did a masterclass for Ireland. It is quite

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dry here. You're kicking game, you're chasing game has got to be

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world-class. Whoever wins that will win the match. England lost last

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week. I think the guys deserve another chance. England tried harder

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and succeeded in losing. They need a chance to repay back Stuart

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Lancaster's faith in selecting them. I thought their attacking was

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brilliant, especially Owen Farrell and Danny Care. Is your cup half

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empty or half full? It was a difficult performance to analyse. It

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fell off in the second half. I think everyone here in Murrayfield is

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looking for a spike in performance from Scotland. In the second game of

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the Championship it normally happens. A final thought about the

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pitch but I am sure we will come back to it during the course of the

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match, we are on a piece of synthetic grass on the side of the

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pitch and if you look six inches that way, that is what the real

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grass pitch looks like and I guess it is not long before all

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internationals are played on this. This time next year, the pitch will

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be dug up and it will be 50-50% synthetic and grass. For the moment,

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it looks like that and it will be interesting to see what effect it

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has what we see over the next 80 minutes or so. For Scott Johnson,

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this is his last throw of the dice in attempt to overthrow England.

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Lastly, as the match wore on, the flames slowly flickered and then it

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finally fizzled out. With a roar we begin. It is Trimble

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who crosses. Ireland have the try! It is a gallop towards the line.

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Surely a dry? It is a try! Chris Henry. Rob Carney is going.

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They are a long way ahead now in the Six Nations against Scotland.

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Was it a big decision to drop your captain, Kelly Brown, not just out

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of the starting line-up but out of the squad? It was a tough decision.

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Kelly is a great human being. We thought the mix was better this way.

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It was difficult. It was a difficult week but these things have to

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happen. A big challenge for Chris Fusaro coming into this side? With

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the pitch the way it is and the conditions the way they are, it

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might suit him. I have coached a few boys like him and his form has been

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good. He deserves the run out. You have talked about dark places this

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week, how has it been in such a short turnaround? We brought

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torches, that is what we did. But at the end of the day, there were good

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things as well. There is a naivete about our team and we know that. A

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quick turnaround gives a good chance to bounce back quickly.

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With a new flanker and a new captain today for Scotland. They did not

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really perform well in Dublin but a few changes in the front row. No

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changes in the second row. The first change for Scotland and what a

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change, Kelly Brown out and Chris Fusaro comes in. No change at

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halfback. Greig Laidlaw takes the captaincy from Brown. A youthful

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centre partnership. Sean Maitland is out and Tommy Seymour comes in.

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Today, from a Scottish perspective, it may be all about Chris Fusaro who

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makes his debut today. I was talking to Jason White last night who became

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Scotland captain. He made his debut against England in 2000 on the

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winning side. The Scotland captain Kelly Brown has

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been dropped for the Six Nations match. He is gutted to miss the

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match. It took me awhile to come to terms with it. I had to pinch myself

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a couple of times. It is a massive honour. I will have to listen to the

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coaches. I was to get the nod. Kelly had a good game last week. It is the

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nature of the sport, it can be ruthless sometimes and also it is an

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opportunity for me now so I have got to prove myself. I will be trying to

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get in there and disrupt it as much as possible against England. A great

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tackle. We have got the game plan. I think we have got the right game

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plan to win it. Andy, the obvious question is, what

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does he bring to the side that Kelly Brown couldn't? It is all about the

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breakdown. Chris Fusaro has been brought in to get his hands on the

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ball in the tackle. He is quicker but shorter than Chris Robshaw. He

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needs to get there. He must win the race to get to the tackle. If they

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arrive at the same time, there is a difference of 15 kilograms in

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weight. He must win that race. Another significant selection,

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Escott -- Scott in the centre. Matt Scott coming in at 12, really has

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two for that link between all the good play last week, to let Stuart

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Hogg get the ball. I think he is growing and growing as an

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international inside centre and he is a really good player.

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Let's move on to England now who could have one, should have won, you

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might say in Paris to last weekend but they were hit by a French sucker

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punch in the final of the match. What a start to the Six Nations! A

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second try for France. Mike Brown, helter-skelter rugby. England are

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level! England's lead grows. There are warnings of gales in all

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areas. And France will steal it. It has been a thriller in Paris and the

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home team have won it. Stuart, fortunate, I guess, out of

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every player who was available, you have kept faith with that team, is

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it time to repay that faith? It is not about repaying it to anyone but

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themselves. I think they were disappointed to have lost the game.

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It was difficult initially to pick them back up but there is a lot of

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frustration we will take out in Scotland today. What were the key

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lessons? Everything matters, the start, it is a big mountain to

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climb. There is also the positivity. The accuracy in our game

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I thought was excellent. We want to build on that. You have had a look

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outside. A lot of talk about the pitch and conditions, what do you

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make of it? The same for both teams. It is the same as yesterday. It is a

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bit wetter today than yesterday but I am sure it will be fine. It will

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be the same for both teams. We can win in the rain and the drive.

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Stuart Lancaster was talking about the pitch there. This is the

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pre-match entertainment which is always great. Really outstanding

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entertainment. Given the state of the pitch already, I'm not sure they

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are doing it an awful lot of good. Obviously, the players are not

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playing in high-heeled boots but it is not improving the situation, I do

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not think. Going back to the England side,

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rarely has the substitution caused such a furore as Danny Care's last

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week. He maintains his place. A lot of pressure on these three,

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the scrum did not go well last week. Always excellent work rate, they

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shared the work rate these two. Chris Robshaw has to win his contest

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with those are. Failure is not an option. Kicking will be keyed today.

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The ball must go hi all go wrong. Luther Burrell scored a great try

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last week. He needs to target Duncan Weir today. Who would want to be a

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back three player today in these conditions? The courage will be

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tested this afternoon. We were talking about the scrum-half. He has

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had a chequered career. He was running the show last weekend. He

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has been talking to Sonja McLaughlan about the good times and the bad.

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England have dropped Danny Care following his arrest for

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drink-driving. Drunk and disorderly at the wheel. He will come back

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stronger. All I wanted to do from a kid was to play for England. I loved

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every minute of it and to have that taken away from me spurred me on to

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make some changes in my life. I realised what I want to be is an

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international rugby player. To play for my country as many times as I

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can and represent everyone who has been there for me and supported me.

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Do you have faith in him off the pitch? 100%. We all makes mistakes

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and the important thing is to learn from them. I do believe everything

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happens for a reason. Maybe I needed that lesson to spur me on to be a

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better player. Danny Care providing the spot. Where did that performance

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come from? I had been waiting a while to be back in the number nine

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shirt. It is such a special tournament. To have that shirt away

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in France, I knew I had to perform. All that was missing was a try. I

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was about two centimetres away! It was close. Why do you think that you

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were substituted? You get substituted around that point. I

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think I could've played on a bit longer but the coach makes the

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decisions. And I back that 100%. I always believed he could be the best

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in the world and now he is relentless in that pursuit. What do

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you think when you hear that? I will give him ?10 later! It is good to

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hear and Stewart has always believed in me mad that I could be the best.

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It has taken a couple of years but hopefully I am playing the best rob

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me of my career at the moment. -- rugby. How much is the team driven

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to take the title? We know that we can win every game, simple as that.

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We were close in France. Scotland is going to be a massive game, but

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really exciting for us. We will go there full of confidence and try to

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get the win. So there is Danny Care. Have you

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revised your opinion about the substitution last week? Not at all.

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I thought Danny Care was having his best game. He was playing really

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well. To me you only make the substitution if someone is injured

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or you need a tactical change to the game. I think it did affect the

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game. I just hope that the coaching staff watch the game closely today

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and take players of only if it will make a big difference. Do not change

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for the sake of changing. He will not have the option of another

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outside half if Owen Farrell gets injured. Owen Farrell, was that his

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best game for England last week? He was superb. Probably the fact that

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it was his ninth consecutive game starting really helped. He was

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looking, probing, passing well. Everything in sync. What about no

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replacement outside half on the bench? Especially in these

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conditions, if Owen Farrell was to be endured, there would be a gap in

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that recognised ten. They need to be on the pitch for the whole game

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today. They were very good in certain areas and less good in

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others. What about this in particular? They have been working

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on this in training. They get quick ball. Danny Care whips it out. Talk

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about scanning and looking, they have a couple of lines of attack.

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The French have come up too early. Owen Farrell makes up good ground.

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Luther Burrell gets indeed. You cannot get much better than that. It

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is a great setup. I do not think we will see too much handling today. It

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will be more kicking. England are at their best. Chris Robshaw and Luther

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Burrell. These conditions will play to the England strengths. Scotland

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in Dublin were far too lateral. They never got in behind the defence. You

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have got to get in behind. That is what Chris Fusaro will have to do

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today. Well 89 years ago was the very first match played here.

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England against Scotland. And Scotland were the winners. This

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stadium has seen some great moments.

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Smith again. O Connell, what a superb try.

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Roy Laidlaw. A bit of indecision. There is a chance now. And he goes

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through. That is a brilliant try. Armstrong to Gavin Hastings.

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Magnificent try for the 21-year-old!

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Dawson again. Caught by Grimes. Grayson is through. What a try!

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And Paul Grayson is actually commentating this afternoon on radio

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five live. If we go across the running track, one of the

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idiosyncrasies of Murrayfield, Brian Moore and Chris Paterson are in the

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commentary box. Good afternoon. We are probably warmer and drier than

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you! Yes, it is pouring with rain. Not an afternoon for the backs. In

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terms of the battle at front, what are the key areas? Well I think the

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scrum suffered last week. The England scrum likewise. They have

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both improved enormously. I thought Kelly Brown has been given a bit of

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a hard time because he was asked to play in a different position and

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then dropped for not doing it well enough. And who will be in the back

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three on a day like this on the England side? The back three are

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bound to be busy. How do you respond to kicks from the opposition today?

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You do the basics well. And that will put the opposition under

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pressure. The Scotland backs, they know each other's games inside out.

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Whereas the England backs, some of them are new to the scene. But there

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are quality players. You suspect the game might be a carbon copy, or at

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least very similar. To the game played in Dublin earlier this

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afternoon. We have got a forum on the red button straight after the

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final whistle here and any thoughts you have, give us a shout. Also on

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the BBC Facebook page. There is going to be a lot to be said about

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the Welsh performance this afternoon. This England side are

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Twickenham in a couple of weeks time. Here is the reception for

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England in Scotland. Not overwhelming, it is fair to say. But

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there's always that little bit of rivalry. It is the only ground where

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England get booed. I feel that England will win the day. It is

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going to be tight but I think they should see it through. We will be

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playing the same record over and over. Scotland will create chances

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but they have to take them. I think today will be a different set of

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chances. It is all about playing in the right areas. There will be a lot

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of kicking. They will be bombarded with high balls in the wings. A huge

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kicking performance required tonight. We do not have the

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pyrotechnics as they had in Sochi last night but that is still a

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magnificent sight, the types and drums. And this massive cannon is

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going to go off in a moment. Scotland coming here at Murrayfield.

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The England team already lined up and waiting for the anthems.

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Wherever it you are watching us, battling the elements or in the

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gales, this is the match to lift all spirits. England have only one here

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once in the last decade. It is a rivalry that began in 1871 when

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Scotland one 1-nil. And it is the battle that resumes for the 132nd

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time today. Brian Moore, Chris Paterson and Andrew Carter on

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commentary after the anthems. The crowd stand for the second match of

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this second weekend of the RBS 2014 Six Nations Championship.

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# God save our gracious Queen! # Long live our noble Queen!

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# God save the Queen! # Send her victorious.

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# Happy and glorious. # Long to reign over us.

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# God save the Queen. # O Flower Of Scotland.

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# When will we see your like again. # That fought and died for.

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# Your wee bit hill and glen. # That stood against him.

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# Proud Edward's army. # And sent him homeward.

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# Tae think again. # Those days are past now.

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# And in the past they must remain. # But we can still rise now.

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# And be the nation again. # That stood against him.

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# Proud Edward's army. # And sent him homeward.

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# Tae think again #. One anthem seat to crush an army.

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The other rebelling. Both teams desperate for a win. The Scotland

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coach has swung the axe. But it has only fallen on Kelly Brown in the

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forwards. Chris Fusaro is smaller and more mobile. Tommy Seymour comes

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in in the wing for injured Sean Maitland. And for England, same

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again. The two youngest forwards are the key players. Billy Vunipola will

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be hard to contain. Jonny May brings real pace on the left wing. He plays

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in spite of breaking his nose last week. Alex Goode covers a couple of

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backline positions for England. And in between this great meeting

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between Scotland and England is a French referee. And the noise

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swells. The countdown will continue here at Murrayfield. And they can't

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it down to the 100 and 32nd meeting between these two countries.

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A blast of the whistle and away they go.

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England have pristine white shirts. That will not last. Hartley got him

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down. A little bit of adrenaline flowing.

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You cannot allow players to receive the ball uncontested. A quick look

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at England's success rate last week. 87% of their line-outs worked.

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The first test for Hartley and Lawes. There is Vunipola again.

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He tried to off load. Scotland take it quickly. Sean Lamont. The referee

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says just wait a moment. The ball will be kicked. I suppose you can

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say fairies foul and foul is fair, it is the same as saying it is the

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same for both sides. Also there were bands walking on the pitch

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beforehand. But they were playing songs from Glee. Who are they? That

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comes back to Scotland and Ryan Wilson has it but that was offside.

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There will be a pop at goal for Farrell. There are good kicks and

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bad kicks and that was a great kick. Huge pressure from Stuart Hogg. We

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saw Duncan Weir try and put one over the top of Jack Nowell's head. Scott

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Johnson will be very disappointed that something and nothing has given

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England a relatively simple shot without having to do anything. Such

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a good goalkicker. That was a slip. You saw the planted

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foot. His left foot completely gone from underneath him. You will see it

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in super slow motion. He said he did not know what his back foot was

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going to do. Here we are. They take away the roots, these

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little beasties, that is why it is so unstable out there. Anyway, a

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good chance again. It is Scotland's ball. There was some concern about

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Ryan Grant's back before kick-off but he seems to be going OK. Just as

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the referee said advantage, Mike Brown takes it for England. It is

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not really a day for galloping fullbacks.

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Interesting, last week the Scotland Ireland game almost turned on Sexton

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making a break from a dummy kick. How far will Farrell get? Not too

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bad, just about to the 22. When you haven't got a firm pitch, playing

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from your own 22 scenes and awful long way. It is a very big slog.

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That was taken down nicely by Tom Wood. England will try and get

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something going on here. Danny Care takes it away and a drop goal

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attempt. He did it last week and he has done it again. If he was under

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pressure to do that, he would not have done that. He thought, I might

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as well have a shot. He is a natural footballer.

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I think you can tell he wants to smile but he is not allowed to.

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England with the early lead courtesy of that man, Care. David Denton

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coming forward. Scotland are working hard to get

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that back line, into Farrell and then Lawes. We decided to kick it

:37:18.:37:25.

low. This was rather better measured. Seymour was up there as

:37:26.:37:32.

well. Different servers, that might have gone straight out. He hit that

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big divot. You can see England have won in the backfield.

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England's line-out has been solid on two occasions so far.

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Trying to give Danny Care bit more breathing space here. Down it goes.

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The referee says nothing wrong with that.

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Scotland have the penalty this time. The man infringing is Dylan Hartley.

:38:27.:38:53.

Quite clear, Jerome Garces says, the feet. A calf kick this one, with the

:38:54.:39:01.

instability underneath. And the angle as well -- a tough kick. The

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wind can be quite hard at the East hand side of Murrayfield as well.

:39:09.:39:39.

England still with that Danny Care drop goal lead. We were talking

:39:40.:39:46.

before we came on air about the wind, repeat what you said. Trade

:39:47.:39:55.

secret. The wind at Murrayfield is a low wind which swirls around the

:39:56.:40:01.

stadium. It is always tricky here. That was carried in by Seymour then.

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Scotland coming in. David Denton. A chunky meeting with many polar. --

:40:08.:40:11.

Vunipola. Hamilton and Swinson set off

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together. That was unchallenged until Mike

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Brown came haring in. Laidlaw just gets that kick away.

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Danny Care was there. The fullbacks will be tested... And Farrell just

:41:33.:41:38.

took his eye off the ball. Twelvetrees under pressure. He was

:41:39.:41:48.

able to get back kick away. Well done, Billy Twelvetrees, to stand

:41:49.:41:53.

his ground there. England have the penalty. Scotland holding on. First

:41:54.:42:03.

man on his feet. Neither side really making any great impression with

:42:04.:42:09.

their kicking games. I think as well, Brian, there is a lot of

:42:10.:42:19.

pressure on the kicker. A safe kick from Owen Farrell. England will have

:42:20.:42:29.

the line-out. I think he just takes his eyes off the ball. Scotland need

:42:30.:42:36.

to be on quicker. They need to be made to pay for that, England. They

:42:37.:42:42.

were allowed to get away with it. England's line-out works well

:42:43.:42:53.

enough. Vunipola has it at the back. A penalty advantage to

:42:54.:42:58.

England. A little attack to nothing there. Another infringement there so

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they will come back for the original infringement. The penalty has been

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given against Jim Hamilton for going in the side but it could also be

:43:12.:43:15.

given to Chris Fusaro on the near side here for taking down, I would

:43:16.:43:20.

have thought both packs would use this. Very difficult to stop on a

:43:21.:43:30.

greasy surface. The way to defend that is as soon as it is caught the

:43:31.:43:35.

whole thing has to be dropped. A good kick from Farrell. He did not

:43:36.:43:40.

fancy a pop at goal in these conditions. He found a good kick in

:43:41.:43:45.

the Scottish 22. How much money would you put on a repeat of that?

:43:46.:43:52.

When you get into that area there, between the five metre line and the

:43:53.:43:56.

try line, that is very bare. We know what is coming for England. Scotland

:43:57.:44:03.

will do well to defend this. There is a bit of confusion. Lawes has it

:44:04.:44:12.

at the back. Breaking away all the time. They have done well, Scotland,

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to wreck that. And here is another try.

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Jack Nowell was holding the defence and Burrell takes a wonderful line

:44:28.:44:49.

to breakthrough. It is still man on man. His man.

:44:50.:44:58.

, hard, shut down what is in front of you, having numbers in and around

:44:59.:45:07.

the ball, with Danny Care running, Nowell and Burrell, Scotland will be

:45:08.:45:12.

disappointed. They tried very hard to disrupt the ball. Ultimately, a

:45:13.:45:21.

great try for England. Just as steady drizzle coming down. Farrell

:45:22.:45:33.

to give England a ten point lead. This one does go through. No bother

:45:34.:45:38.

with that. And England into double figures. Scott Johnson, the Scottish

:45:39.:45:45.

defensive coach, will be disappointed. One fell swoop and he

:45:46.:45:53.

is over. Restart, Duncan Weir. Seymour trying

:45:54.:46:03.

to take it down. Penalty to Scotland. How often does that

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happen, you give a penalty away straight after you have scored

:46:13.:46:18.

points. It is hard not to in that situation, it is instinct to grab

:46:19.:46:34.

the ball. Laidlaw will have this chance. Slightly easier than his

:46:35.:46:42.

last attempt. A nephew of Roy Laidlaw, great Scottish scrum-half.

:46:43.:46:47.

Scored a wonderful try against England in this fixture 31 years

:46:48.:46:59.

ago. This one trying to get away as well. Jack Nowell quickest to react.

:47:00.:47:06.

A couple of visits for Laidlaw. Not easy kicks but that one you would

:47:07.:47:11.

have felt he should have opted through. It would have kept Scotland

:47:12.:47:21.

within one try. Denton again is the gatherer. Slips through the middle.

:47:22.:47:41.

Seymour taken down by Danny Care. Scotland making some headway. Easily

:47:42.:47:59.

taken by Jonny May. He goes for distance. Scotland still in their

:48:00.:48:14.

own half. It was a good break by Seymour. That is what Scotland have

:48:15.:48:20.

not been doing. What has to happen after that, the next man also has

:48:21.:48:26.

two get over it the gate line. -- have two. The England line-up

:48:27.:48:37.

working well. The ball comes back smartly to the Apollo. -- Vunipola.

:48:38.:48:57.

A penalty to England. That was a silly penalty for Sean Lamont. He is

:48:58.:49:06.

on the wrong side and has to get back around. There are two players

:49:07.:49:13.

from each side and he has to get back. It is a risky one 35 yards out

:49:14.:49:25.

from the goalpost. The fact is when you are 10-nil down and there is a

:49:26.:49:32.

doubt, do not do it. And he is experienced. 84 or 85 caps now. It

:49:33.:49:42.

gives Farrell another opportunity to try and get some points for England.

:49:43.:50:10.

That one drift away as well. It is all down to concern about what is

:50:11.:50:20.

going to happen. Not fully committed to the kick. It is something to

:50:21.:50:38.

watch for the rest of the game. Twelvetrees trying to battle his way

:50:39.:50:45.

through. Vunipola can certainly do it. 20 two stone charging. England

:50:46.:50:58.

making good ground here. Twelvetrees skips inside. Farrell just delaying

:50:59.:51:15.

that passed a little bit. England will have the scrum. Was it an

:51:16.:51:31.

initial England knock-on? Yes, it was. A little reminiscent of last

:51:32.:51:51.

week, when Burrell sets of. I have been watching Chris Fusaro very

:51:52.:51:56.

closely. He has had a good introduction. A good tackle there.

:51:57.:52:06.

Nothing flash. And then first ball carried, he is knocked back but

:52:07.:52:17.

keeps the ball. I was going to save that the scrum was solid but down

:52:18.:52:23.

they go. Double, double, toil and trouble. What can be said? I looked

:52:24.:52:34.

up nematodes on the Internet last night! They are fascinating

:52:35.:52:45.

creatures. Perhaps in a quieter part of the game I will tell you about

:52:46.:52:47.

them! They are sliding about. It is all a

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bit of a mess. Scotland have the penalty. They are not scrums of

:53:10.:53:17.

power today at boys and balance. -- poise. There is no purchase at all.

:53:18.:53:33.

But England will feed if they can. The referee is the man that has to

:53:34.:53:42.

enforce that law. Should there be a mentality just to get the ball out

:53:43.:53:47.

and away as quickly as possible as Mac there should be. Scotland were

:53:48.:53:56.

poor in the line-out last week. David Denton waiting at the back.

:53:57.:54:08.

Carried well. Denton has it three or four times. English hands getting in

:54:09.:54:32.

there. Denton just has to stall for a moment. Scooped away quickly.

:54:33.:54:50.

Stuart Hogg this time. It gets them territory. If you are taking the

:54:51.:54:58.

ball round the corner it is fine but you have to keep going and get

:54:59.:55:04.

enough men there. It is one step forward for Scotland and one step

:55:05.:55:21.

back. Danny Care having a chat with the

:55:22.:55:32.

referee. He eventually sends it down the line. Good work from Robshaw.

:55:33.:55:54.

Jonny May comes into play scrum-half. Down the blind-side they

:55:55.:56:14.

go. Danny Care kicks again. England creeping up the pitch. Taken down

:56:15.:56:25.

well by Laidlaw. Ryan Wilson, a good tackle. Cannot quite get it to

:56:26.:56:34.

Denton. England's all. Still playing that scrum advantage. The kick goes

:56:35.:56:41.

long and it is well directed. Into touch in the Scotland 22. You see

:56:42.:56:57.

the difference in those kicks. That came from the pressure of the

:56:58.:57:04.

English defence. And eventually got the turnover with a good kick from

:57:05.:57:12.

Danny Care. There will be pressure on the Scottish line-out now. It

:57:13.:57:22.

goes awry again. England have the position and they have some space.

:57:23.:57:36.

Jonny May takes it into the bodies. Tom Wood is there. Advantage to

:57:37.:57:48.

England. The referee with his arm outstretched. Back they come for the

:57:49.:58:04.

penalty. That goes back to that line-out for Scotland that went

:58:05.:58:08.

wrong. Jim Hamilton again giving away the penalty. A loose Scottish

:58:09.:58:16.

line-out. Jonny May fights hard to get over the gain line. He is

:58:17.:58:25.

powerful and big. Three Scottish defenders drawn right in. England

:58:26.:58:32.

got in behind him and that is where the penalty came from. It looked

:58:33.:58:41.

like an overthrow. But I think it is more timing. Well it often does look

:58:42.:58:54.

like the hooker but there is often a combination of factors. England now

:58:55.:59:01.

in front with nearly half an hour gone at Murrayfield, and looking

:59:02.:59:09.

comfortable for the lead. Duncan Weir again with the restart.

:59:10.:59:27.

Denton is there. Good take by Billy Vunipola. You would not want to be

:59:28.:59:38.

knocking him down! It is going to be a Scottish throne. Denton has

:59:39.:59:48.

carried well for Scotland. And even the polar wonderful for a big man,

:59:49.:59:56.

clicking -- plucking the ball out of the air. The selectors glad to have

:59:57.:00:05.

Matt Scott back in the side. The referee was in the way a little

:00:06.:00:28.

bit there, a guilty face he has, but it will be an England scrum.

:00:29.:00:33.

Courtney Lawes made a good decision to come out of the line but

:00:34.:00:40.

crucially, Robshaw went with him. Robshaw was there to help out his

:00:41.:00:47.

mate. Any vantage Scotland might have had was completely gone. A

:00:48.:00:55.

little bit of a break for the players. Treatment being

:00:56.:00:58.

administered to a couple. We will have our second scrum. One tries so

:00:59.:01:06.

far. It came from Luther Burrell. He scored against France last week and

:01:07.:01:15.

today. You cannot see from that angle but when you are defender and

:01:16.:01:19.

you see someone hovering there, you are constantly aware that he may

:01:20.:01:27.

come left or right. Just being in the picture causes seeds of doubt in

:01:28.:01:28.

the defence. And scrum again. Both sides have gone down. We play

:01:29.:01:48.

it from the scrum. We get through it. Farrell kicks it up into the

:01:49.:01:59.

dark sky. Who did it come off last? It is going to be England's

:02:00.:02:09.

line-out. The Scottish groundsman has had a peculiar problem.

:02:10.:02:14.

Murrayfield always used to be one of the best grounds to play on, it was

:02:15.:02:18.

always a firm surface. Half the pictures in the Six Nations are

:02:19.:02:26.

substandard. They should all be hybrid pictures -- pitches or you do

:02:27.:02:35.

not play on them. Murrayfield will be changing to a hybrid pitch.

:02:36.:02:42.

England have the wall again. -- the ball again.

:02:43.:03:03.

Burrell knocks on this time. Wilson lays it back. Some quick hands,

:03:04.:03:12.

stationary bodies for Scotland. And Dunbar.

:03:13.:03:27.

Stuart Hogg, he does have a big boot. He sends it over the head of

:03:28.:03:35.

Mike Brown. It doesn't quite go all the way. Scotland with the quick

:03:36.:03:47.

line-out. The way they come. A chase from Sean Lamont. Nowell takes it as

:03:48.:03:51.

it heads into touch. This sparked the Scottish crowd into

:03:52.:04:20.

life. You can see Dylan Hartley will take his time. He has really made

:04:21.:04:29.

this position his own. Hartley, a man in great form hits his mark

:04:30.:04:38.

again. Courtney Lawes. They are club partners.

:04:39.:04:46.

Scotland will have the penalty. Is it within range? I don't think so.

:04:47.:04:59.

Just outside with the angle and the underfoot conditions. There is an

:05:00.:05:06.

opportunity for them to get some sustained possession. When you talk

:05:07.:05:12.

about nonconfidence in the non-placing foot, what do you mean?

:05:13.:05:17.

You do not want to apply pressure through that foot. You want Demon

:05:18.:05:26.

Menton to go to the posts. The unknown is a problem.

:05:27.:05:38.

They are dying the death of a thousand line-outs. That was long

:05:39.:05:49.

again. This time Lamont fields into Farrell and Vunipola.

:05:50.:06:13.

He was slipping and sliding and still going. He showed some skills

:06:14.:06:17.

there. A gap opened. There is some life in the

:06:18.:06:31.

Murrayfield crowd. A disappointing end for Scotland

:06:32.:06:58.

fans. Time and time again, Scotland make ground, they go through

:06:59.:07:01.

multiple phases but the cutting-edge is not quite there. Hawk takes the

:07:02.:07:04.

22 restart. -- Stuart Hogg. That was a good take under pressure

:07:05.:07:22.

by the full-back. A classic example of Duncan Weir just almost, almost

:07:23.:07:27.

pulled out. Brown technically is very good.

:07:28.:07:50.

Duncan is too early. Three minutes to go in this first half. This is

:07:51.:07:53.

how Weir and go head-to-head. England with the ball, with the

:07:54.:08:13.

advantage, with the penalty now. A good chance for England to get

:08:14.:08:20.

something before half-time. I think they can afford to gamble here.

:08:21.:08:30.

Colin Farrell could have a shot at going right to the corner.

:08:31.:08:51.

The England line-out has been rock solid into the final couple of

:08:52.:08:57.

minutes of this first half. Robshaw at his leisure. That was

:08:58.:09:02.

unchallenged from the air and then put on the shelf. Held at the back

:09:03.:09:07.

by Launchbury. And here comes Joe Launchbury. Nowell was trying to get

:09:08.:09:14.

there but Scotland have it through Ford.

:09:15.:09:31.

Lamb and had the kick. An England line-out once again. England want to

:09:32.:09:44.

get this one in and get another try. Still a minute to go. England with a

:09:45.:09:51.

perfect record at the line-out. Ten from ten.

:09:52.:10:01.

Scotland, 50%. It means you cannot sustain pressure or my Menton. If

:10:02.:10:10.

you lose momentum you lose the territorial battle. -- they cannot

:10:11.:10:25.

sustain pressure or momentum. Farrell for the try line. Burrell

:10:26.:10:33.

cannot quite get there. Just short. He is still trying to stretch. The

:10:34.:10:37.

clock is read in the first half. England looking for a killer second

:10:38.:10:45.

try. Scotland may have been spared their scrum. That is a let off for

:10:46.:10:53.

Scotland. It could so easily have been a second try for England.

:10:54.:11:00.

Scotland, for all their endeavour, have not had the cutting edge. They

:11:01.:11:09.

looked comfortable at the moment. Scotland have a lot to do. 13 points

:11:10.:11:20.

in it, England lead. It was 13-0 at half-time in Dublin

:11:21.:11:30.

today as well. Scotland still in it. Owen Farrell missing a kick early on

:11:31.:11:35.

but Danny Care doing what he did last week against the French with a

:11:36.:11:41.

cheeky drop kick. Laidlaw missed two penalties which would have put

:11:42.:11:47.

Scotland on the board. That was Burrell's second try for England,

:11:48.:11:51.

not a bad record to have. The picture may be one of the

:11:52.:11:55.

determining factors which gives the half-time score of 13-0 to England.

:11:56.:12:05.

An awful lot of play in the Scotland half which meant it was hard for

:12:06.:12:09.

them to get out of there. England are, if not in cruise

:12:10.:12:25.

control, they are very comfortable? I think that sums it up well.

:12:26.:12:32.

Scotland got the basics wrong. The line-outs are not functioning. Some

:12:33.:12:39.

penalties you give the ball the opposition. England will be very

:12:40.:12:42.

pleased because they are not having to break too much of a sweat.

:12:43.:12:51.

Scotland are soap for this half. -- so poor. I think England will be

:12:52.:12:55.

very pleased. I think Scott Johnson has a lot of talking to do at

:12:56.:13:03.

half-time. He certainly does. 13-0, there is still a chance for Scotland

:13:04.:13:06.

but they have got to really up their game. Have England found a real

:13:07.:13:19.

centre? It is too early to say. Scotland have been giving penalties

:13:20.:13:23.

away all throughout this first half, to many in England's half,

:13:24.:13:28.

five in England's car. The line-out here goes really well for England.

:13:29.:13:41.

-- five in England's half. They have really set this up. You look at the

:13:42.:13:45.

England backs. They are not doing what they are setup to do, it was

:13:46.:13:53.

always set up for Burrell on that line. It is really good that they

:13:54.:13:57.

got the control. It is something that they planned on the training

:13:58.:14:02.

paddock. A lot of composure. Remember last week, Danny Care was

:14:03.:14:06.

sniping, trying to get the balls over the line. This time they are

:14:07.:14:10.

taking their time because of the conditions. There is the dogleg that

:14:11.:14:17.

is created. We had his shoulders facing inwards, they should be

:14:18.:14:20.

facing out. Burrell comes through the gap. We have two great centres

:14:21.:14:27.

alongside us here. The point about them being in a dogleg, school kids

:14:28.:14:32.

are always told you are supposed to go up together as if you were

:14:33.:14:36.

attached by string, whose fault is that? Is it a lack of communication?

:14:37.:14:42.

The guy on the outside has gone up too quickly. And also, you are on

:14:43.:14:47.

the back foot so when Burrell came on the short ball, the two Scottish

:14:48.:14:52.

centres were going backwards. You have got no chance. That is just

:14:53.:14:56.

training. You have to stay in line with the shoulders. But that try,

:14:57.:15:02.

the one thing for me for Scotland, they gave away a soft penalty, they

:15:03.:15:09.

do not compete at the line-out. England do a rolling ball. Scotland

:15:10.:15:15.

did not compete in any way. From a coaching point of view it drives you

:15:16.:15:19.

nuts. Seven times in the game you cannot win the game. Right at the

:15:20.:15:30.

death, is Luther Burrell had scored a second try, that would have been

:15:31.:15:34.

it. I did not expect too much running. But that is brilliant from

:15:35.:15:40.

Owen Farrell. Taking the ball to the line. Even from this, they should

:15:41.:15:50.

have scored. That is old England. You should have scored from that.

:15:51.:15:59.

The Scotland defence is in disarray. Fair play to Scotland, they have

:16:00.:16:01.

scrambled back really well and they are still in the game. Owen

:16:02.:16:08.

Farrell, he scans it so well. We saw that last week in Paris. I thought

:16:09.:16:19.

that was a penalty. Conceding seven, definitely game over. They were like

:16:20.:16:30.

a boxer on the ropes. The French referee! That changing room will be

:16:31.:16:37.

a different place because they did not concede that try. In that

:16:38.:16:40.

Scottish changing room someone has got to be saying you cannot keep

:16:41.:16:48.

giving penalties away. This is where as a coach you earn your stripes. It

:16:49.:16:53.

is obvious what is happening. The penalty, that is just a bad kick.

:16:54.:16:58.

But giving the ball away nonstop. He has picked it out. If you could keep

:16:59.:17:03.

the ball in play, the worst that can happen is England get the ball, kick

:17:04.:17:11.

it out and it is Scotland's all. They are just kicking too far. You

:17:12.:17:17.

have got to stay in play. Even if England get hold of the ball... It

:17:18.:17:21.

is just plain bad little bit smarter. -- playing that little bit

:17:22.:17:31.

smarter. They are giving the ball back to England. Jack Nowell as the

:17:32.:17:40.

novelist has not really been tested. Forced England to make decisions.

:17:41.:17:47.

Talking about Scottish discipline, Lamont has 80 odd caps. Moments like

:17:48.:17:52.

this just changed the momentum of the game. Very much so. This is just

:17:53.:17:58.

poor discipline. Scotland not playing well. The discipline has got

:17:59.:18:10.

to be good. That is just giving the ball back in the position and then

:18:11.:18:16.

you are back under pressure. So what does Scott Johnson say? They have to

:18:17.:18:20.

bring a different dimension to the play. Last week Scotland it happened

:18:21.:18:31.

a lot in the first-half, they were off-loading. They need to get behind

:18:32.:18:39.

England. This is Ryan Wilson. He takes it in and you can see he is

:18:40.:18:46.

about to off-load to Denton. It was the right content, but poor

:18:47.:18:52.

execution. Scotland need to bring a different dimension to the game. I

:18:53.:18:57.

do not think Denton was expecting it. It sums up how Scotland are

:18:58.:19:03.

playing stop playing very much as individuals and not as a team. The

:19:04.:19:12.

back row is not linking together. It is disjointed. It is difficult to

:19:13.:19:21.

see what they are doing. Well here is a man who might know what

:19:22.:19:25.

Scotland are doing. It is the Scottish assistant coach. We are

:19:26.:19:30.

speculating about what Scott Johnson might be saying. One of the main

:19:31.:19:37.

things is discipline. They have had ten or 12 line-out in our half. That

:19:38.:19:48.

is killing us just now. Lucky that the scored did not end the half. Is

:19:49.:19:53.

there a sense you can get back into this game? We need to get

:19:54.:20:01.

possession, some territory. Some of the same problems as last week.

:20:02.:20:04.

Against a good side we need possession in their half. Best of

:20:05.:20:10.

luck. Well it was 13 nil at half-time also

:20:11.:20:17.

in Dublin but at the end, there really only one side in it.

:20:18.:20:30.

They will go for the drive. Here comes the drive. There are over the

:20:31.:20:36.

line. Married. -- Mary checks where it

:20:37.:20:47.

is. It is there in front of him. Ireland, what a finish this would

:20:48.:20:56.

be. Colin Murray looks up. Paddy Jackson scores. It rounds of a

:20:57.:21:08.

performance... It is all too late for Wales. The game is lost.

:21:09.:21:15.

Tempers flaring at the end, not surprisingly. Any thoughts on that

:21:16.:21:22.

game in Dublin, to give us a shout on the red button forum after this.

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The red button follows this programme. And we have friends

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against Italy live tomorrow from 2:30pm. Right now on BBC Two you can

:21:38.:21:45.

watch the second day of the winter Olympics live from Sochi. And once

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the Winter games are over and the Six Nations, it is time for this.

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You have seen the aerodynamic helmets. Here are the shorts.

:22:00.:22:07.

Victoria loves them. Sport relief? Swimming? This beauty will make you

:22:08.:22:17.

as fast as a frog -fish type thing. You want to win sport relief? You

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have got to train hard. That means going uphill. You are supposed to do

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it for fun. Running? All you need is you. Join the fun and games. The big

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programme on the Friday night and then the sport relief mile on the

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Sunday as well. So England very much in control

:22:43.:22:49.

here. A Scottish perspective, what can they do to try to stem the tide

:22:50.:22:53.

and perhaps get back in the game? At the moment they are not doing

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anything. They are in second gear and not playing well at all.

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13 points in it. No changes in either side. The England shirts

:23:09.:23:23.

shiny and new. Penalty to Scotland. Jonny May the only England player

:23:24.:23:27.

who has not changed his shirt. Perhaps there was not one for him! I

:23:28.:23:35.

would like to see Scotland upped the tempo. They have played a fairly

:23:36.:23:42.

static game. The line-out is not working. They are being forced back

:23:43.:23:49.

because of that. Much better to free up the game and make England work.

:23:50.:24:01.

Billy Vunipola has it. And Scotland will have little chance in this

:24:02.:24:04.

match if they cannot win the line-outs. Jonny May cutting back

:24:05.:24:11.

infield. Manages to keep it alive for England. Billy Vunipola once

:24:12.:24:20.

again. Farrell with the high kick. It is a bit too long. There being a

:24:21.:24:33.

perfect example of not winning the line-out. England on the front foot.

:24:34.:24:41.

In that line-out you can see what is happening and why that has gone

:24:42.:24:48.

wrong. Defenders are watching the feet and as soon as they move, that

:24:49.:24:54.

is when they react. You have got to get up and down quickly. The

:24:55.:25:09.

line-out is one. A little bit messy. But England have it.

:25:10.:25:30.

Danny Care looking for territory. Stuart Hogg, a day for his boots,

:25:31.:25:40.

not his flying feet. Can Scotland get anywhere near the England

:25:41.:26:04.

line-out? Lawson is coming on. Coming on for Ross Ford. They are

:26:05.:26:10.

losing a good deal of power in Ross Ford. But it is not really that kind

:26:11.:26:23.

of game today. Can Dylan Hartley hit his man again? Lawson with an early

:26:24.:26:48.

touch. Sean Lamont coming in off the wing.

:26:49.:27:03.

Wilson makes good ground. Lawson back infield. Scotland lifting the

:27:04.:27:10.

pace a little bit. Still battering away at the fringes. You hear the

:27:11.:27:20.

crowd respond. Up close to the England 22. In that passage of play

:27:21.:27:36.

you have that tussle. Scotland can go through a number of phases and

:27:37.:27:43.

make ground, as they were doing. Just taking their eyes off the ball,

:27:44.:27:50.

a simple, basic error. The Merrifield atmosphere was building.

:27:51.:27:59.

But the English defence is safe. The crowd are just waiting. The English

:28:00.:28:12.

defence, filling the front field. Plenty of show and passion. But

:28:13.:28:19.

Scotland have fallen flat and the crowd has as well. Just an

:28:20.:28:32.

impression I have got, it seems that the England speed in defence is

:28:33.:28:44.

quicker than Scotland. Denton aside, England probably have had more

:28:45.:29:00.

yardage. Sort of a scrum. Ryan Wilson and Tom

:29:01.:29:14.

would and others join in. -- Tom Wood. Full of sound and fury,

:29:15.:29:29.

signifying nothing in the end. Let's have a chat. Ryan Wilson, Courtney

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Lawes been summoned. Keep your self-control after my whistle. Carry

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on. This is how it came about. Messy

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scrum again. Courtney Lawes playing peacemaker, of sorts. He is quite

:30:08.:30:16.

hard done by, there. I do not want to overdo this, but scrummaging is

:30:17.:30:23.

not an easy exercise anyway. But when you cannot get the purchase and

:30:24.:30:28.

your feet are slipping, it is extremely difficult. It adds to the

:30:29.:30:37.

danger of scrums as well. At this level you tend not to get the

:30:38.:30:44.

serious injuries, thank goodness. Players are better conditioned. What

:30:45.:30:50.

are you supposed to do when that happens? A good defence against both

:30:51.:30:58.

nematodes is marigolds, apparently. They are resistant to nematodes. I

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had a strange dream about it last night!

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Penalty to England after a series of fractured scrums.

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Looks like England want to bring a bit of extra tempo. We had Duncan

:31:29.:31:37.

Hodge at half-time saying Scotland have got to get the next score if

:31:38.:31:42.

they want to get back into the game. It is always crucial the first score

:31:43.:31:47.

after half-time. The line-out comes back England's way.

:31:48.:31:58.

Vunipola has a way of hopping through things. It was a quiet

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afternoon on the wing but Jonny May, marvellous stuff, into the 22.

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The work was there, he took his chance beautifully. Alex Dunbar did

:32:18.:32:20.

really well there to slow that ball down.

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Danny Care has to dive for it after it zipped through his legs. England

:32:30.:32:39.

looking for the score they were just denied before half-time. A knock on

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by Scotland. This will be an English scrum. A bit of inexperience thereby

:32:46.:32:54.

Jack Nowell. He has done promise in things but that was a sort of I

:32:55.:32:57.

cannot think of anything else to do kick, so why will chip it. He did

:32:58.:33:08.

well to stop the momentum from Jonny May. Greig Laidlaw tries to round

:33:09.:33:17.

his troops and get a stranglehold on this game.

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We hear that Jonny May has broken his nose. It was an undisclosed

:33:26.:33:35.

fracture last week. I think it now has been displaced. I suppose if you

:33:36.:33:42.

have got that kind of injury it will be more fragile. A penalty to

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England. Look at that, Scotland going down. Moray Low penalised for

:33:47.:33:54.

collapsing. Farrell will surely have a pop between the posts. New scrum

:33:55.:34:04.

nor experimental variation, if players do not want to stay on their

:34:05.:34:09.

feet, it is not the referee's fault, if they go to ground. Referees have

:34:10.:34:15.

got to be firmer. There are 50,000 people here who have not come to

:34:16.:34:18.

watch you diving around on the floor. That means there are 17,500

:34:19.:34:27.

who have! Well, there are odd people who come to rugby. The Blues are

:34:28.:34:35.

never a nice sound at Murrayfield for the kickers. -- booze.

:34:36.:34:45.

He pulled it again. It brings that uncertainty into the placing foot.

:34:46.:34:55.

All misses have been to the left. I do not think if he was thinking

:34:56.:35:00.

about that and taking his focus away from the triggers he usually has

:35:01.:35:02.

when he kicks successfully for England. The many polar with the

:35:03.:35:15.

flow. He fed his arm around the defender. Mike Brown carried it on.

:35:16.:35:22.

He passes to Jonny May. Dunbar gets in there. Once more, do Dunbar gets

:35:23.:35:28.

in and Scotland do not get that ball. It is a penalty. It is a

:35:29.:35:36.

yellow card coming for Scotland. The man called forward may well be...

:35:37.:35:50.

Alex Dunbar has been called forward. Good work initially. Then guilty

:35:51.:35:56.

work and off he goes for ten minutes. Scotland or even more up

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against it now. Look at this from Vunipola. The brutality and the

:36:05.:36:09.

subtle hands. Some good support from Mike Brown to launch that attack.

:36:10.:36:28.

Robshaw has it in the middle of field now for England. Farrell gives

:36:29.:36:35.

it to Luther Burrell. Still England looking for the way

:36:36.:36:53.

through. Farrell thought he saw something inside David Denton.

:36:54.:36:58.

Scotland with 14 men. A man down in the backline. Can England find the

:36:59.:37:02.

space which must be there? Jonny May has proved himself a real

:37:03.:37:16.

threat so far. That was good disrupting work by Greig Laidlaw

:37:17.:37:25.

there. Scotland just looking to survive this. That was stolen by

:37:26.:37:32.

Scotland illegally. A penalty to England. They will kick for touch

:37:33.:37:44.

again, surely? They may as well stay. Numerical advantage would make

:37:45.:37:52.

pace at some point, if they can get it right. 12 penalties conceded by

:37:53.:37:59.

Scotland, five for England. Scotland are making another change. John

:38:00.:38:08.

Beattie is coming on for David Denton. He does not look very happy.

:38:09.:38:18.

He has had a good game, David Denton. We have just seen the flowed

:38:19.:38:29.

so far from Vunipola. That is what led to England getting on the front

:38:30.:38:34.

foot which led to Dunbar's yellow card. Only be churlish would say,

:38:35.:38:42.

forward pass, Billy. Brutality and dexterity in unison. There was some

:38:43.:38:44.

confusion for England. This time, the penalty goes for

:38:45.:39:02.

Scotland. That is a real boost for Scotland.

:39:03.:39:24.

When you have dropped down to 14 men there are some really great attitude

:39:25.:39:33.

being shown. The thing is, when you're lying is threatened, the

:39:34.:39:37.

discipline is to make sure that happens in and around the halfway

:39:38.:39:41.

line when there is not that impetus on you. That is where your work rate

:39:42.:39:46.

and your concentration has to be a lot better. Scotland's line-out

:39:47.:39:54.

still a mess. Courtney Lawes has it. Even polar on the rampage again. --

:39:55.:40:01.

the winner polar on Stuart Hogg is stepping straight

:40:02.:40:15.

into Farrell. That went over the head of the

:40:16.:40:56.

referee. Mike Brown calls the mark. That is disappointing I think from

:40:57.:41:00.

Laidlaw who is a very good scrum-half. Scotland have not had

:41:01.:41:06.

enough ball in English territory. To kick the ball away to nothing with

:41:07.:41:09.

no chaser there, does not make sense. It gives Mike Brown the

:41:10.:41:17.

chance to dump it long. It was long. Taken by Scotland.

:41:18.:41:30.

Mike Brown now cutting through. Look at the ground Mike Brown has made.

:41:31.:41:42.

England are beginning to feel a bit of space in front of them.

:41:43.:41:58.

The speedy feat to get away. Stuart Hogg chased hard on his own. Mike

:41:59.:42:11.

Brown, a very deceptive player. Physically unremarkable but a lot

:42:12.:42:15.

stronger than he looks. People constantly underestimating. He

:42:16.:42:20.

always breaks through the first line of defence. I would have thought by

:42:21.:42:26.

this time that players would have wised up to the fact that you cannot

:42:27.:42:29.

do it and you have to pay more respect. He pumped his legs and

:42:30.:42:35.

fights through it. England have won 16 line-outs and

:42:36.:42:55.

lost none, Scotland have won five and lost five. That, in the modern

:42:56.:43:04.

game, almost inevitably means the side that has lost half will never

:43:05.:43:08.

be in the game territorially. It is that constant pressure you will want

:43:09.:43:11.

to build winning line-out after line-out. For all the mistakes, it

:43:12.:43:22.

is still just 13 points. No hands on the ball. England have not really

:43:23.:43:34.

taken advantage of that one-man extra.

:43:35.:43:46.

Four minutes to go. The average points lost to a team with a man

:43:47.:43:59.

down to seven so Scotland are well in credit on that. There is Dunbar.

:44:00.:44:17.

Stuart Hogg took Nowell but still England's ball. Twelvetrees again

:44:18.:44:30.

and onto Marler. Still with that one-man advantage. There should be a

:44:31.:44:38.

gap somewhere. Mike Brown now for the try. Brown is in and England

:44:39.:44:44.

finally, finally have their second try. It came eventually. It was not

:44:45.:44:51.

on the side where I thought it was going to be. England recognising the

:44:52.:45:05.

gap down there. Jack Nowell, a big impact in there. Healer is his

:45:06.:45:15.

lesson quickly. Look at that quick footwork. -- he learnt his lesson.

:45:16.:45:31.

The big players against France have scored again today. Jack Nowell did

:45:32.:45:39.

not give the ball to Jonny May in that set piece move so as I say, he

:45:40.:45:53.

learnt quickly. Owen Farrell pops it over for a 20 point advantage. That

:45:54.:46:06.

average is there because that is the consequence of you finding yourself

:46:07.:46:11.

down. It was right on the line, to be fair to Alex Dunbar.

:46:12.:46:26.

Duncan Weir gets us going again into the final quarter of the match.

:46:27.:46:44.

Fair contest, says the referee. England lift the ball again. I am

:46:45.:46:53.

not sure he meant to do it like that! Looking for the infield pass.

:46:54.:47:11.

England have the scrum. He gambled successfully. Chris Robshaw made a

:47:12.:47:22.

wonderful decision. Danny Care Fountain and that passed out to Mike

:47:23.:47:33.

Brown. -- found him. He took a gamble and it paid off.

:47:34.:47:47.

Mike Brown, 92 metres made already in this match. This was the try. The

:47:48.:48:00.

final pass from Jack Nowell. That was Andy Robinson was Mike unhappy

:48:01.:48:19.

box there. -- Andy Robinson's. The Scottish forward coach will not be

:48:20.:48:30.

too happy. Line-outs and scrums are crucial and they are also wrote

:48:31.:48:34.

skills that you can just to get better. Those things are things that

:48:35.:48:50.

can be worked on. The sin is up. -- sin-bin.

:48:51.:49:12.

Twelvetrees salvages that one. Penalty to Scotland this time. That

:49:13.:49:18.

doesn't show if you can put pressure on early, it puts pressure on

:49:19.:49:31.

elsewhere. Dunbar coming back on and England about to make a change as

:49:32.:49:40.

well. Dave Atwood is on for Joe Launchbury. You do not often see Joe

:49:41.:49:46.

Launchbury but he does such effect of work. -- effective.

:49:47.:50:08.

The referee having a chat with Robshaw. Scotland may not be able to

:50:09.:50:27.

win this match but they will try to get something. For the final 17

:50:28.:50:55.

minutes or so. A path to Dunbar. Scotland still

:50:56.:51:04.

with it. But drifting a bit at the moment. Scotland take the ball deep.

:51:05.:51:32.

Johnnie Beattie, plenty of power. Steps out from the challenge on

:51:33.:51:36.

Twelvetrees. Dunbar heaved into touch. There were 12 Scottish

:51:37.:51:44.

phrases and 11 of them, the first contact was behind the gain line,

:51:45.:51:59.

every time. Max Evans about to come on. Coming in for Tommy Seymour.

:52:00.:52:14.

Chris Cusiter also about to come on for Scotland. Greig Laidlaw, the

:52:15.:52:24.

captain, is off. A big cheer as the scrum-half comes on. They have to

:52:25.:52:40.

earn the right to go wide. It takes a lot of hard work. You have too

:52:41.:52:57.

stretched the defence to do that. Mako Vunipola on in the front row.

:52:58.:53:07.

Plenty of heavy muscle in there for England. Mike Brown puts his foot on

:53:08.:53:31.

it. Mike Brown disappointed with that. 15 minutes to go. England can

:53:32.:53:44.

afford to do that. Scotland have got to go 75 metres, if indeed they do

:53:45.:54:00.

retain the ball. Here comes really, puffing away. -- really.

:54:01.:54:10.

England charging now, sending in their heavy man. Robshaw is quick.

:54:11.:54:22.

He does a lot of the gritty, unpleasant work. Courtney Lawes.

:54:23.:54:45.

Still there for Danny Care. Jonny May has been busy. Just a little

:54:46.:54:52.

delay of the past. -- pass. England creeping close. Good support

:54:53.:55:25.

from the second row. England getting closer and closer to that third try.

:55:26.:55:34.

Advantage to England as well. They will come back for that penalty now.

:55:35.:55:41.

Scotland offside. Through all that phase of labour has to be a dominant

:55:42.:55:47.

tackle from the defence at some point. England wanted to keep the

:55:48.:55:59.

ball and they did that. Someone has two step up and stop that. It has

:56:00.:56:06.

been a frustrating day for Stuart Hogg. He has not had an opportunity

:56:07.:56:14.

in the first 65 minutes. In this next phase, it is a good off-load.

:56:15.:56:23.

Last year against Italy he did the same and ran the length. It has been

:56:24.:56:29.

a frustrating afternoon for Stuart Hogg. Difficult conditions

:56:30.:56:37.

underfoot. But Mike Brown has done pretty well. Here come England with

:56:38.:56:55.

the drive. Advantage to England again. Scotland infringing in

:56:56.:57:04.

defence. And the referee's patients will be stretching. -- patience.

:57:05.:57:24.

Chris considered getting a talking to. The crowd saw that on the big

:57:25.:57:44.

screen as well. Good position for England looking for that third try.

:57:45.:58:08.

20 line-outs taken by England. No doubts remaining about the results

:58:09.:58:18.

here. I think Scotland have turned this over. Scotland will have the

:58:19.:58:31.

scrum. Wilson managed to get his hands on the ball. But they still

:58:32.:58:41.

have to defend the line. Changes being made by England again. Tom

:58:42.:58:51.

Youngs coming on. He is coming on at hooker for Dylan Hartley. And then

:58:52.:58:56.

Morgan is going to come on in the back row for Billy Vunipola. Dylan

:58:57.:59:07.

Hartley was the thrower of 20 line-outs. Jonny Gray has just come

:59:08.:59:15.

on for Scotland. Billy Vunipola is off. Jonny Gray on for Jim Hamilton.

:59:16.:59:38.

Hamilton hobbling away. He has put in a shift. He has worked hard for

:59:39.:59:47.

his team. Have England turned it over? Not quite.

:59:48.:59:57.

The pitch takes a real pounding once more. Scotland looking for a

:59:58.:00:17.

steadier ball to clear from. A slip out of the hands there. Ten minutes

:00:18.:00:26.

to go, 20 point in it. Scotland will have the scrum. They defended well.

:00:27.:00:37.

They have had to do so much tackling, they are very tired and

:00:38.:00:43.

they are not getting enough numbers to capitalise. 2:30pm tomorrow,

:00:44.:00:49.

France against Italy. And after this match, we have a red button Forum, a

:00:50.:00:57.

discussion of all matters as Alex Goode comes in. You can contact us

:00:58.:01:05.

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Twitter, Facebook as well. And Instagram and pigeons... Talking

:01:11.:01:18.

about Ireland and the great win against Wales. Eight minutes to go.

:01:19.:01:35.

There was a dominant scrum from Scotland. A couple of tries for

:01:36.:01:46.

England. Luther Burrell owl and then Mike Brown. The two men who scored

:01:47.:01:54.

for England against France. Didn't Mike Brown enjoyed that? There was

:01:55.:02:02.

no need to do that, he scored. One over the touchline, whatever. These

:02:03.:02:09.

things always come back to haunt you. No mockery.

:02:10.:02:20.

The booing can be heard. Advantage to England. There is the penalty. It

:02:21.:02:39.

came to the back quicker so England could get the drive on in a fashion

:02:40.:02:43.

which was controlled. That is the difference. England looking to

:02:44.:02:51.

inflict further punishment in the final seven minutes of the match.

:02:52.:02:53.

They have the line-out. Recent matches between these two

:02:54.:03:06.

have always been close at Murrayfield and this one has not

:03:07.:03:20.

been. England's first lost line-out. It did come back eventually their

:03:21.:03:31.

way but it was not clean. 30-0 at half-time, only one try. The

:03:32.:03:38.

territory has been in England's favoured -- 13-0 at half-time. Danny

:03:39.:03:48.

Care is off for Lee Dickson. Not quite the contentious replacement as

:03:49.:03:53.

it was last week. A shake of the head for an Danny Care. Brad Barritt

:03:54.:03:55.

is on as well. Six minutes remaining. Scotland

:03:56.:04:14.

scrum. It was picked up by Johnny Beattie. England very quickly upon

:04:15.:04:17.

him. Here shows exactly, 1% England only

:04:18.:04:48.

have spent in their 22, Scotland 31%. You can make a case for there

:04:49.:04:52.

being more points on the board but the fact is, Scotland have struggled

:04:53.:04:57.

badly this afternoon and England have been dominant. England's

:04:58.:05:02.

line-out is looking shaky now Hartley has gone. But England still

:05:03.:05:07.

have it. They have possession with five minutes to go.

:05:08.:05:16.

That was good but he gave it to Stuart Hogg. Nice attacking play

:05:17.:05:25.

from England. But what you saw there, were options. One or two

:05:26.:05:29.

players that ball could have gone too. The Scottish defence has to

:05:30.:05:34.

guess. They are making ground over the gain line. Henry Thomas is

:05:35.:05:44.

coming on now, the sale prop coming on for Dan Cole. He was the only

:05:45.:05:51.

player last week not to come on. He gets his chance of 4.5 minutes here.

:05:52.:05:57.

And confirmation that Brad Barritt is on for Luther Burrell. Young is

:05:58.:06:03.

trying to get this England line-out going again. It has changed since he

:06:04.:06:18.

came on. A loose pass, Stuart Hogg was desperate to get his hands on

:06:19.:06:25.

it. I understand Lee Mears was brought in to help Tom Youngs with

:06:26.:06:28.

his throwing but he officially needs a bit more work. The massive effect

:06:29.:06:38.

that the small parts of the game can have on your outcome. Shows how

:06:39.:06:45.

important the line-outs are. Courtney Lawes has it for England.

:06:46.:07:00.

Scotland are on the offence again as England are still looking for that

:07:01.:07:06.

try. They are getting closer. Courtney Lawes with it at the back.

:07:07.:07:14.

Lawes trying to drive in there now at the back. Looking for it again,

:07:15.:07:15.

Lawes. The pitch is really churning up

:07:16.:07:32.

there and England cannot make that final bit. One more try and it will

:07:33.:07:36.

be a record defeat for Scotland here at Murrayfield.

:07:37.:07:50.

2.5 minutes remaining. Farrell flips it back infield. But penalty to

:07:51.:08:08.

England. Again, the bravery shown by the Scotland defence as Farrell

:08:09.:08:14.

picks up the loose ball. It was a pass by Mako Vunipola which set up

:08:15.:08:16.

that tackle wonderfully. Good covering for Sean Lamont on

:08:17.:08:28.

Owen Farrell. Just two minutes remaining.

:08:29.:08:49.

The victory is all but complete for England. They have now got to play a

:08:50.:08:56.

home match against Ireland which should be a cracker and then a home

:08:57.:09:01.

match against Wales so two took in games to come for England and then

:09:02.:09:07.

awaited Italy. What about man of the match? For me, Mike Brown. You could

:09:08.:09:12.

make a case for Chris Robshaw. The entire England group have done a

:09:13.:09:20.

sterling job but Mike Brown is the one who stood out in the end for the

:09:21.:09:28.

England backline. So Mike Brown, one of the tries scored. He is the RBS

:09:29.:09:37.

man of the match. And the third try in this final minute. Barrett's

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gravels on. England coming forward again. -- Barritt scrabbles on. They

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are loose again. He did well to improvise a little kick forward.

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Matches to come for Scotland, wait Italy in two weeks time and then

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home against France and then they finish off a way to Wales. Things

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hast to improve if they are to get anything from this Championship --

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things have to improve. A very important win, this, for England.

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The contrast between the boxes. The final play of this game as the

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clock goes red. That will be out and that will be

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that. Victory for England. Some booing around Murrayfield but

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England get their Six Nations chance back, moving in the right

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directory. Two tries and comfortable victory, one from Mike Brown, the

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other from Luther Burrell. Scotland's chance at the

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Championship is fast eroding with the Murrayfield pitch. Another hard

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day for Scotland. England have a very satisfying win here. It is

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never too easy to come here and England have not found it easy to

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come here to Murrayfield but they have won with room to spare. The

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territorial advantage was great. You could possibly have asked them to

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produce more scores but they controlled the game, particularly in

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the line-out. It is difficult for me to make a case for what they can do.

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There are lots of areas they need to work on. I am lost for words.

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Scotland scoreless at Murrayfield for the first time against England

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in 1978 when they lost 15-0. That was a game for the purists, not the

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occasional viewer. Partly due to the weather but also the gulf between

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the two sides. Gerry, talk positively -- Jeremy talk

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positively. It was very good. They lost in key areas against the

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French. This evening, they kept it simple. They knew it was a game in

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territory with conditions like this. Danny Care started off very well.

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They tackled resiliently. Everything they did, their tactics, were spot

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on. Although Scotland really didn't test them. For every winner, a

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loser. And a distant loser at that. Scotland cannot be happy with that

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performance, in any aspect. The backs had no platform.

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Disappointing, very disappointing. The outstanding player for England

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in the autumn internationals is also the man of the match today.

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Congratulations, Mike. After the disappointment of last week, how

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much did you enjoy this one? It was massively disappointing so we wanted

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to show reaction this week. An outstanding shift in. I thought it

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was overall outstanding. You waited for that first England tried to come

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and then they all came at once. I was waiting in the wings, Jack, the

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young lad, a great flow from him. It looked tricky out there for you.

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Obviously, the pitch is not in the best condition unfortunately. I

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thought we played it at great tempo. I thought the forwards were

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brilliant. A great attacking performance from England but how

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much is built on that defence being able to limit Scotland are not

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letting them score at all? We know we had a great defence from the get

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go. The coach has done a brilliant job with us. The Six Nations is

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about showing what we can do in attack. I think we have done that in

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the last two games. Congratulations, RBS man of the

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match, enjoy it. Cheers. So there is the Calcutta Cup which dates from

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1879. Chris Robshaw will be receiving that in just a few

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moments. Chris, bitterly disappointed. What

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is your assessment of the game today? Yes, disappointed. The set

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piece, the line-out was malfunctioning. You cannot have a

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Six Nations game with a line-up that does not work. We could not get

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anything going. We were not getting any fastball. Missing tackles at the

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end. It is hugely disappointing, it was a brilliant crowd and we were

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desperate to give them something to shout about. It is frustrating

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seeing where the problems are but not being able to read defied them.

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Of course and you have to be able to fix the problems. We just could not

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do that. It was a little mistake after little mistake a compounding

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errors. We were still in the game at 30-nil down. We coughed up a bit of

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ball and had a bit of possession. Just massively disappointing.

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So there is Chris Robshaw, the England captain, lifting the

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Calcutta Cup here at Murrayfield this evening. England's first big

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tree of the Championship. So the table looks like this following

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events in Dublin this afternoon where Ireland where the emphatic

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that was over Wales. It is England against Ireland at Twickenham in a

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couple of weeks. That is for the future. And for the forum as well.

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If you have any thoughts then give us a shout.

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Clive, your overall assessment? I am impressed. This was a difficult game

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and they have won it. The forwards were really strong. I was really

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impressed in the difficult conditions. This is not an easy

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place to come. And they did win with a lot to spare. It was a poor

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Scotland team but I think they can look forward to the Ireland game in

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a couple of weeks. The team is really starting to take shape. This

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is a great win for England and a big bounce back from Paris. It was not

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easy, in spite of the conditions. Looking forward to Ireland. Mike

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Brown was magnificent in the autumn and again today. It has been a long

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drink between caps for him. He has worked hard. As you say, he was the

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man of the autumn series for England. He is just a complete foot

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taller. He is not the quickest. But he has got a rugby brain. He knows

:18:19.:18:24.

what to do at the right time. The ball gets to Jack Nowell. Jonny May

:18:25.:18:34.

is going spare! But Jack Nowell decides no, I will go myself and see

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what I can do. But luckily they recycle and keep going and the ball

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gets recycled back to the left. He has not scored a lot of tries for

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Exeter. The footwork there is fantastic. It is the first time we

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have seen him play a full game like this. He just got his hands on so

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much. What do you make of Luther Burrell, his overall informants? I

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think he is a bit quiet. -- performance. He was not involved in

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defence last week. This is what you expect a 6-foot three die to do. --

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die. -- guy. I was encouraging him to target Duncan Weir for this game.

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Because of the size difference. And here at the defence is not great.

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But as long as you can spot it, you can attack it. Duncan Weir looking

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in, not even looking at Luther Burrell. Talking about size, Mike

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Brown is kind of normal sized. Luther Burrell obviously a huge

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presence in the centre and then apologised a massive individual. --

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Billy Vunipola. Again, he off-loads. And for me the off-loading game was

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fantastic. Scotland kept running into him. He was fantastic. But this

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guy is special. He is moving the ball. That off-load is fantastic.

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You could go to ground but that is world-class. If you know the ball is

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coming, this is why he is an exciting player. Not because of his

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sheer size. There were no missed tackles, they did everything right.

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He's just and strong. -- powerful and strong. Does the blame lay with

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the coaching staff or the players? I think a bit of both. It did look a

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bit mechanical. The players have to be good enough to be game where and

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change it. So many things went wrong. What about a line-up? I was

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frustrated. A couple of years ago the Scotland line-out was

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outstanding. It has fallen apart. They lost five line-outs. Sometimes

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it is the thrower, sometimes the timing. They used to have the

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confidence. Other things they were limited with but you could guarantee

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getting the ball. And that was what was so frustrating stop 16

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penalties, Scotland conceded. I could go on. You will never win

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again with those kind of statistics. Scotland always did something to

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unpick their good work. Whether it was penalties... But the line-outs,

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somebody needs a bit of a telling off. Because the coaching is

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producing this performance. The only way to stop it is by dropping

:22:36.:22:39.

people. They're not doing what you are asking them to and they have to

:22:40.:22:43.

go. Well that would be a good talking

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point for the forum. If you do want to contribute, this is your

:22:49.:22:55.

opportunity. Give us a shout now. And France against Italy is the

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culmination of the weekend tomorrow, from 2:30pm in Paris. And highlights

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of the Winter Olympics on BBC Two from seven o'clock tonight. And

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coverage continuing through to the end of the games. Thank you very

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much. Andy, a definite evening for Scottish rugby. Best desolate. We

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will be with you in Paris tomorrow. But if you have any contributions to

:23:31.:23:35.

make, give us a shout now on the forum. That is in one minute.

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