Rugby Special: Third Round Six Nations Rugby

Stuart Hogg, it is two! Can Wales turn pressure into points? Jonathan

Davies! Straight down the field. The first two weekends of the six

Nations this year were absolutely enthralling. The third weekend was

as well but it was also extraordinary.

How good are England? How resolute are Italy? Just how proud and

ruthless? Ireland and France. Just how physical do you want a rugby

international to be? Scotland and Wales. Just how long can one team

keep beating the other? So much to talk about. Jeremy Guscott, Jonathan

Davies and Paul O'Connell. Straight to Twickenham. If you don't know

what happened in this match, you've never seen an international rugby

fixture like this. Danny Care thinks he might have

phoned the way through. Though he did not get through, that

is the area to keep testing. Owen Farrell.

It has gone forward. The pass just evading Jonny May. The problem was

he was trying to keep a line but he was going towards him and in the end

there was a collision. He is tackled by Ben

I'm saying when there is no ruck, just play on.

The referee has been quite clear. The fact that England cannot

understand it is their fault. They should know the law. Professional

players. Though it is unusual it is for nursing them at the moment. --

confusing them. Very clever by Italy. Italy have to be careful

inside the 22. They set up a slow charge and at

some stage they have to get this ball into touch.

Penalty against Italy. It didn't work. But all of the problem for

defending team. How many times do you try and make the exit by driving

the ball forward? At what point do you take it too many? England going

for the drive. This will go very far.

Owen Farrell joins in and tries to clear him out of the way. Try

awarded! Italy not getting enough men in

quickly but England seeing the ball off. Cannot see the grounding but

that was a good position. He obviously could. Good work by the

England forwards. Eddie Jones will be hoping that will settling down

that they can play with fluency because they've managed to do

nothing like that so far. It seems to be opening up, make Brown.

Important tackle. Into the England half. It has more

than opened up for them. Italy play on. It has gone loose. It

is still loose. Back to the 22. Penalty advantage to

Italy. The break-out by Italy. A return to the form of the

first-quarter returns a penalty. The ball comes slightly quicker

fertility. Just that Delay. Allen, to put Italy in the lead on

the stroke of half-time. Something good could come of it and it has!

Italy take the lead. An extraordinary first half and Italian

performance. Clueless, inappropriate, unorganised, whatever

you want to say. Nobody there for England. One Italian chaser. Conor

O'Shea is delighted because Italy are well worth this lead and I'm not

here to be a cheerleader for England. This half has been

execrable, absolutely awful. It is brave work by the Italian

forwards. It hasn't worked. It was always a risk. This is a prime

opportunity for England to assert some control over the game.

Solid platform to begin with. Penalty to England.

Danny Care! Quick-witted from the England scrum-half. He was always

alive to Italy, who were the most switched onside in the first half.

Good work by Danny Care but not by the defence. Joe Launchbury. Quickly

over the top. Italy play the game but they are not going in. England

hesitated and they are on the move now.

Scores again. He's had some impact on left-wing. That is the correct

way to deal with the Italian tactic. There are spaces behind the tackle

area. Tackle only. That is the phrase of

the day. Italy are looking for a way through as England stay out of the

contact area. It is a great individual effort, irrespective of

the fact that there were not enough tacklers to bring him down.

He has the presence of mind to know that his momentum will take him over

the line. That's a great run. It's a fantastic solo effort. He could not

get hang on the forwards. Courtney Lawes is in front of him. The ball

needs to go back one. Nathan Hughes has it. Ben Youngs on

his shoulder. There is about four men to none.

England have such an overlap. They are still short. Penalty advantage.

Ben Youngs has spotted it. Must be. It was not the best but he has the

speed. That is a bonus point try England will probably win with. They

tried very hard not to score that but in the end the communication was

made and whatever you make of this performance. The fact is that

they've got the bonus point and will probably go on to win. The passing

was not the best. It was such an overlap.

Groups, long clearance. The replacement prop.

England are going to finish in style. Not many people would have

spotted this but the fact that Mike Brown laid the ball early at length

stopped the Italians from coming round the wrong side. It was too

quick to use it. It created the defence of space which was exploited

by England. Henry Slade is on. Back in the

England setup. Six tries for England. Good work and

Jack Mills looked lively since he's come on. Final score here, England

36, Italy 15. A few fans scratching their heads in

that first half and some pundits on the game, as well. What was your

take? Let's face the facts. You've got to have an offside line to play

the game. Italy was smart and congratulations to their coaching

staff and the players. They executed that playing brilliantly, but it

wasn't a Webb rugby. If I was the BBC, I'd be asking the RFU for their

money back, because we haven't had a rugby game. Do you think your

players were slow to adapt? I think they reacted well. It's difficult.

You are taught from the age of three that you pick up the ball and pass

it half-backs and when you can't do that, then it puts you win another

sphere. Did you have a wry smile on your face in the first half, when

you sort England struggle with your no ruck-macro no struggle tactic? It

was fun. We talked about it yesterday, when we met Romain. In

the November internationals, they intercepted the ball against

Toulouse to win Wasps the game in a Heineken Cup and everyone says how

brilliant it is. When we do it, everyone says, you shouldn't have

done it and it's hypocritical. But that's life. It's we beat South

Africa and is a terrible South African side, we came here and did

things and had a crack and we didn't come here to spoil the game, we

played within the rules and I'd like people to look at the first game of

the championship again and see how hard done by we were actually by the

rules not being looked at properly. A penny for your thoughts on the

final whistle. What were you thinking? The game could go on for

another 40 minutes, because we haven't played any rugby. Because

you look at the GPS starts. I is saying your players will go on

trainer Gay now? We practice to have contact because contact is a contact

game. -- rugby is a contact game. Even their rock was offside. It's a

difficult game for the referee, I'm not critical of him. It was hard to

play positive rugby. You have one team trying to play, one trying to

stop you from playing, in soccer, park the bus in front of the goal, I

don't know what they had in front of the goal but it was bigger than a

bus. You want to does a Ben Te'o at 13, what's your verdict? He never

got the ball. All we were hoping for was little guy Edoardo Gori would

forget he was on the Italian side and maybe our backs could have got

it. Where to start. So many talking points. By the very nature of the

length of this programme we couldn't show you in the necessary detail all

the incidents in the first half-hour, where the Italians stood

off, didn't engage in contact, and flummoxed England completely.

England fought the law, but the law one. This is the law. If you look at

what is a ruck and what isn't a ruck and weight you

what is a ruck and what isn't a ruck and weight you should go and where

you shouldn't, as you can see, a ruck is a phase of play where

players close around the ball on the ground. We've put that there because

quite clearly a lot of England players were completely bemused by

that. Where do we start? Well done to Conor and his coaching team and

his coaching team for the tactic of how to confuse and get in the

English heads. They executed it brilliantly in the first half. I was

surprised, because these are professional guys that train. They

haven't got ready for this. They weren't expecting it. It was

brilliant. But in my eyes, you think on your feet and react to what you

see and what's around you and for me, immediately, it should have been

a pick and drive, pick and go. It took 33 minutes for the first

English player to work it out. You can understand the frustration

because they couldn't work it out. Everyone thought they would put 60,

70, 80 points on it, it was great coaching right Conor and his team

but England have to come to that and it's the pick and drive, or someone

gets there and gets the ball away before they come round. I was amazed

they said they hadn't seen before. It's simple rugby, they've been

doing it all season. The Chiefs, two seasons ago, did it a lot. It was

the talk of Super Rugby. There's no one in ruck. Dylan Hartley had a

chance to put in Gori, so Gori can't go into that circle. There's an

opportunity to and go. That's one of the only options you have.

Launchbury, if he'd pulled Tommaso Allan into the ruck, he could have

made a ruck out of it but he's not aware of the rule, he lets him go

and we are back into the same situation again now. It's worth

saying that social media polarises opinion, in the way it does, but

generally, we here are saying a round of applause to Conor O'Shea

for coming up with the tactic, given the fact they conceded nearly 100

points in the last two games and going into the match they had to

come up with something, and boy, did he come up with something.

Absolutely, all the talk has been about relegation and Georgia and the

Six Nations, so the element of surprise with this tactic, I was

surprised that England were so baffled because it was done so well

by the Chiefs in the Super 15 and teams figured it out in the

superstate -- in the Super 15s. The Chiefs had to get rid of it as a

tactic. I'm surprised how much they struggled. Here's the quote from

Romain Poite, in response to a question from James Haskell. Lets

get some clarity, on the ruck, what we need to do? I can't say, I'm the

referee, not the judge. I want to know what the exact rulers. If there

is no ruck, an area the tackle on the ground, making an offside line

and it's sad. One metre. If someone gets in, it's a ruck? During a

tackle, it's a tackler. After. He said thank you and he didn't know

any better. It's around on eggheads tomorrow night, it will be

interesting. The complex that is of the game are one of its great joys,

but also one of its great weaknesses, but today was

fascinating. When you go into a game, you have tactics, you go

together, whatever one does, the other one has to counter it. That's

what sport is all about. England were angry today, they were

frustrated, they didn't react to it quickly enough. Pick and drive, or

get the first man there and get the ball away. Well done to Italy. It's

slightly disrespectful for them to say it's against a -- to say up

against the ethics of the game. They came there, everyone was on top of

them, everyone was on their case and you have to say, well done, Italy.

Well done for scoring two good tries, one outstanding score and

they came looking for pride and they restored that to measure. But how

much of this, for example, was an example of complacency, of England

not being quite on it today? I don't think they were not on it, they were

stunned by the tactics. Mentally, they couldn't gather themselves.

This was another slow reaction. Italy have chased well, got there,

England are waiting for somebody to produce something. This tries

beautifully worked. We've highlighted Ford before in this

championship, how he's been targeted, and that's a tackle you

have to make. He's got two but is alongside him but company Ore walks

straight through him and over him and scores a wonderful try --

Campagnaro. Eddie Jones was mentoring on Italy's tactics, they

still scored two brilliant tries. Let's move on, England, we'll see

Elliot Daly's try here, but in the broader context, what positive do

England take on this? They've got the bonus point, which they

desperately wanted, in case it comes down to the bonus points at the end

of the game. I guess the reality years and Brian Moore touched on it

in commentary that England did work it out eventually, they did score

six tries and when you say play like this, when they've worked out how to

get round this no gain line, that they can get quick ball, the hands

here off-load, slipped past in from behind from Ford and Care linking

and its beautiful Handscomb a great opportunity and score. It's a

wonderful take, a wonderfully taken try. It's a great try, England were

going to win comfortably once they worked it out. I don't think it was

in doubt. They are second-best team in the world and once they'd had

their frustrations worked out, Law-macro had a big game, Elliot

Daly played well, but it was a stop and start game -- Lawes and big

game. They looks very good again. You operate in exalted areas of the

game these days. Do you think the world rugby laws committee are going

to look at what happened today, either in the short-term or

long-term, and they that's not in Eddie Jones' language, rugby, and we

are going to have to change the laws as a consequence. We played South

Africa two years ago and we beat them, they are big mauling side but

we stood off their maul and South Africa had no solution and led to as

beating them quite comfortably. They couldn't go to the really strong

part of a game. I think Italy have tried something similar. They've

used the laws to their advantage. I wouldn't agree with it. There needs

to be an offside line. When guys are waving their hands in the middle of

the park. It's silly but you have to congratulate Italy. I know you

disagree. I'm challenging, insomuch as South Africa are slow, cumbersome

pack and England are traditionally a slow, cumbersome pack. New Zealand

would stuff Italy out of sight if they played those tactics and Italy

wouldn't do it against New Zealand, because they are too smart. They

might change it because it wasn't a great spectacle, but... England

didn't make it a great practical, they didn't react. When we played

sevens, everyone kept the ball alive and the defence rushed up and you

have people everywhere. What New Zealand do, they pick players, take

it into contact and create an offside line, so they adapted to the

seventh game because they are clever and maybe that what is has to happen

if it happens again. We will bring all these tactics, if you adapt

straightaway, if they'd had a solution, Italy would had to have

abandoned it but the fact it worked so well, it gave Italy massive

belief in what they were doing and it dragged on. But those teams, when

teams throw something like that at you early in the game if you deal

with competently early on, they have to abandon that tactic. England

didn't do that. It was infectious, England did it. It was intriguing.

Entertainment in a different way, not what we were expecting. Two

yesterday and Dublin, a game not for the faint-hearted.

COMMENTATOR: Sent back by Yoann Maestri and Lopez

to Lamerat. Baptiste Serin again. On it goes to

Nakaitaci. Pressure on the man of the match against Scotland a couple

of weeks ago, socks around his ankles. Back to Baptiste Serin.

That's claimed by Heaslip, deep into the 22. Advantage to France, penalty

coming, Nakaitaci. France then with a free attack, if they can get this

ball. There's Yoann Maestri, a little chip from spreading. Back for

the penalty. -- back from Scott Spedding. It's a stepped from

Baptiste Serin brought him to a standstill, didn't have the

acceleration to get away, but danger signs for Ireland. Unlucky, missing

the tackle. They took full advantage after that. A chance for fans to

take the first points of the day. The French captain, Camille Lopez,

he's never scored a try for France but 100 points in the blue jersey

and this time, three more. France take the early lead. Almost 12

minutes gone here in Dublin. It's a sort of greasy surface for players

to keep a grip with their studs. Rock-solid from both sides. Ireland

try to put a squeeze on and it goes down. France will have to use it.

The forwards carrying on for France now. Taken on by become all. Ireland

try to hold them up. -- taken by become old. Ireland offside, penalty

coming to France. Baptiste Serin points the way. The openside flanker

is waiting, he carries it in. The Irish defence firing up. Still

advantage to France. Back to Lopez for the crossfield kick. Taken by

Yoann Huget. Back it goes to Lamerat. Lamerat is in for the try

for France. They had the penalty coming, but they have the try. Are

they going to look at something? REFEREE: Have a look. Yes or no, for

the TMO. The Australian TMO, Nigel is going to have a look on the big

screen as well. A little touch. A little touch, might deny France,

might deny Lamerat. TMO:

If you'd like to have a chat. It looks like he's nudged forward. It

was the second movement. No try. Back for the penalty. Remi Lamerat

does not like TMO As. He denied putting a fingertip on the ball a

couple of weeks ago, that was fractionally more clear, a clear

knock-on from Gael Fickou. Camille Lopez to add another three points.

Ireland's try to get this going again. This is effective by Ireland.

Driven on by the crowed. They are making ground.

Into the space and a little chip to chase. Got there just in head --

ahead of Keith Earls. We've seen that moves are many claims from

Ireland. So nearly worked. Hopefully Ireland can build something from

this. Still waiting for some magic from him in this Six Nations.

Penalty to Ireland. Another scrum called by Ireland. Too many

penalties. It needs to stop now. Nigel Owens looking for a solid

scrum. The Irish fans looking for something towards the line.

Conor Murray goes for it himself, try given. Conor Murray. Nigel Owens

had a look at it and immediately gave the drive.

That the speciality. He's scored so many of them over the years. So, a

chance for Johnny Sexton to put Ireland in front. Through it goes

from Johnny Sexton. Ireland in front and their pressure converting.

Just a fraction too long. Good strength and spinning away. Ireland

are on the front foot. Johnny Sexton spinning away.

The ball turned over. A free attack and a chance for a drop goal.

Ireland have the three points. Ireland move further clear. He

doesn't take those and you can see why. Sweet strike from some

distance. He's happy about that. A penalty to Ireland and another

free attack. Trying to secure the ball. Good work. The whole thing

ended up on the floor. That does not put off Johnny Sexton.

They have a ten point lead. Ireland have the penalty and this

could be a chance for Paddy Jackson to move beyond.

Ireland win that ten point victory. It is a huge win for us. Sometimes

it is not pretty. You just got to really toughen up and I thought they

did really well. They mixed the game up a little bit. There was a little

bit of putting the ball in behind them. At the same time, a lot of

rolling your sleeves up and just making sure that you keep the

pressure on. Tonight was about rolling up your sleeves and making

sure you exert physical pressure. They are a dangerous outfit and a

big physical outfit. When you can get that upfront you put yourself in

a pretty good place. Jonathan Hunt says he thinks they are going to win

the Championship but more on that in a moment. What do you think of this

French team? A better than I thought they were going to be. This season

they've come out and they have solidity in the set piece. When they

get through a few phases they get lost. They are great individual

players. Collectively they need to work on it because the discipline,

they could do magic things but they are doing stupid things and they are

a big strong side. They've been difficult to beat but they come here

a lot better. If they focus on what they are doing and worked as a team

they could become a very good side. At the moment it is still the old

problems. This is unlucky. They've got players who can damage you. They

started really well. They cannot maintain concentration and

discipline for a full game. They start giving you penalties and

forcing off-loads and they give the opportunities to the opposition.

Italy had two weeks after the last round of matches to perfect the

tactic. Ireland came up with a variation on a theme but they

repeated this often. They used their wealth. We saw this loads of times

in the game and we saw this tip-off at the back. Here it is. It creates

space. Sit down and it gives you an opportunity to go right. This is

something that is... This is a Joe Schmidt play. Ireland asked a lot of

questions of France which I don't think France answered. Everybody

spoke about the French pack. They spread the ball wide with good

skills but they moved the French pack around. It was a brave call and

very well done. There was a lot of up the jumper, old-fashioned stuff.

They were really effective. This is good from Ireland but the kind of

thing you still get from France. People say they've changed but I

don't know. Lift the leg, makes sure he's caught them, now it's a penalty

to Ireland. Conor Murray knows it is an advantage and he can have a

crack. It is really clumsy play. Not a particularly good ball. But as you

said earlier, Ireland have used their two weeks off really well.

They had some really good attacking plays. We see a really good start

from Ireland. Eventually they take the ball out. France are going to

bring it over scored a very simple try. Really

good clean out from Garry Ringrose. Create a tiny bit of space per Conor

Murray and he's really good from this range. What France are lacking

is a leader in the pack to cut the rubbish out and keep the discipline.

They've always had a problem at stand-off. Scrum-half controls

everything and he needs composure. Yesterday, every Irish player does

his job but Conor Murray and Johnny Sexton leads them round the field.

Every match at the moment, everybody is watching and there is a

supposition that he will be the half-backs. What do we make of the

return? The guy is a machine. I think he understands the way that

Ireland play. He gets on with Joe Schmidt extremely well. The

execution is nine out of ten at the time and you want consistency. That

is why they are the best players. He demands the best from his players

around him and that means that he needs to be up there with his

performances. He manages that. Instead of putting himself under

pressure he comes back. The last couple of seasons he has become

world-class. The half-backs, it was lashing rain and really coming down.

They were kicking it really well. You see it from here. In the

conditions, the Irish try line is an awful long way away. Do Johnny

Murray and -- Johnny Sexton and Conor Murray start for you? At the

moment they do. I think it's who wins it. The big one is the last

match. That will probably decide the half-backs combination. Anything

else on this? I think Johnny Sexton is ten. Conor Murray a 12. -- nine.

I think Rhys Webb could go in. 20 more sport to show you. Leicester

City against Liverpool, what an interesting game tomorrow, that is

on radio five live. As far as the Six Nations is concerned you can

watch it tomorrow. But from the earnest debate about

rugby everything is put into context by the death of Elli Norkett in a

car crash yesterday. She was just 20 years old.

You from yesterday. It was Scotland against Wales at Murrayfield, runs

like ten consecutive wins have to come to an end sometime.

COMMENTATOR: Rhys Webb comes into view. Picks his

time. A new variation from Wales, to try and push Scotland back a little

bit. Webb's kick. Under pressure from George North, who holds him up.

Two pretty big wingers against each other, isn't it? I feel safer,

sitting here. It's good work by George North, because Wales will

have the put-in. It's raw strength from George North. Tim Visser is a

big man. The kick was a little bit too long. The initial contact is OK,

then George North gets his feet and another and lifts up Tim Visser.

Holds up with the help of Biggar. John Hardie on the side of the

scrum. A free kick, quickly taken by Rhys Webb. Scott Williams, long to

Leigh Halfpenny. A chance for Wales and Lee Williams, the first try of

the game. Rhys Webb has already taken a quick tap, this one, the

timing and the accuracy from Leigh Halfpenny, perfect for him to score

in the left-hand corner. Quick thinking from Rhys Webb, really in

-- really narrow in defence, Scotland.

The break by Rhys Webb, the pass to Williams, Liam Williams cuts back

inside. Rob Evans and support, held off the ball. Will it go to review?

I think it will. That man, Rhys Webb, again. I think he's so cute

here, I don't think the rest will pick up on it. We'll have a look

here. So quick in his run, the pass is good and we're at Rhys Webb.

Very, very subtle. The penalty against Rhys Webb is given. The

shake of the head, but he knows. Warren Gatland, the Lions coach,

watching on. Fraser Brown. With great deliberation, set up the

driving maul. Harry Price, that's Rob Evans, scrapping away for the

ball. High tackle given. Against Sam Warburton. He wanted to get his arms

around the ball carry holding up, that's a good tackle by Dan Biggar

but it's still advantage Scotland. That's a good pasta Stuart Hogg.

Halfpenny goes back. Hogg in hot pursuit. Coming back with a penalty.

Claimed the try. He has a little smile about it all. We go back to

the penalty. This is where it ends, on the chip through. He was claiming

a try, but how well has Leigh Halfpenny done there, and a huge

amounts of pressure? -- under huge amounts of pressure? Hamish Watson

played scrum-half. It comes out to John Barclay and again, no way

through. Russell, to Hogg. It's going to be Seymour, or is it?

Well, Scott Williams has made that tackle, and unbelievable tackle.

REFEREE: Try, yes or no, please? Scott Williams comes across. It

looks like a try for Tommy Seymour, it looks like Tommy Seymour has

landed the ball. Try awarded by Jean Alesi. Tommy Seymour the scorer.

Stuart Hogg delays his pass and Tim Visser does really well to draw on

Leigh Halfpenny and release Seymour, who just gets the ball down.

Ross Moriarty charges into midfield. Wales on the move, for the first

time in this second half they have earned themselves a penalty. Rhys

Webb looks one way, goes the other. Jonathan Davies, Davies for the

line. The pass, can't find a man. Leigh Halfpenny is up there. It's

gone forward. Oh! Wales, so close. Harry Price feeds the scrum. It's

done well, quick ball, and awakens Ali Price. Tommy Seymour gives away

the penalty, crossing, obstruction. It's a penalty for Wales. Its wide

out. What's the option here? If you go on the England game, Alun Wyn

Jones went for the corner. Dan Biggar looks as if he's shaping up

to go for the corner as well. Dan Biggar asks the question. Ryan

Bobbin try is indicated. They've indicated to go for goal, so they

can't change their mind. Oh, no, he hasn't. They can. Wales for the

corner. I thought once you've indicated, it's halfway across the

fields. If anything comes of this, but it's obstruction. Ken Owens, Sam

Warburton, the drive comes on. Wales obstruct in front of the ball.

Penalty to Scotland and Jonny Gray celebrates. The crowd are relieved.

Change at scrum-half. Yes, Henry Pyrgos, a very experienced

campaigner. Most similar to Greig Laidlaw. It's out, Rhys Webb steals.

Can he finish? It will go to review. That's a question of a try, yes, or

no. Rhys Webb has been outstanding so far. Look how sharp he's been a

game. If he beats Tim Visser, in half a metre of space, it's an

incredible finish. Look at his left hand. It looks like it touches the

line just before. Just in touch. Line-out. Scotland throw. So close.

Fraser Brown, the hooker. Still there on the Scottish side.

Pyrgos to John Barclay. Russell, long to Hogg. Tim Visser.

Scotland break out and their lead goes.

Watch this for a pass from Stuart Hogg. Quick as you can through the

hands. Boldin George North. Watch this from the past, through the

hands. Tim Visser goes again. STUDIO:

Here we are, three fifths of the way through it and England are on top,

courtesy of the bonus point today at Twickenham, three points clear of

Ireland but it's a 3-way title fight. England against Scotland next

time round and Wales against Ireland on Friday night. Edinburgh was

rocking late last night, I vaguely recall, and there were two

conversations that were dominating the debate. One of which was

Seymour's try, of which more in a moment. The other was the Welsh

supporters saying, Alun Wyn Jones and the kick for the corner, or the

kick for goal. You've been in that situation many times in

International Rugby Board stop if we just hear the conversation that

actually took place during that, and then you can put your spin on it.

I'll have the penalty. Corner, out, out. Hang on, do you want to go

corner? Indicators. He is indicated. He's indicated, he told me. No,

boys, boys, let's go. So, what's happening there? I don't know if

Alun Wyn Jones did indicate to the corner but if he did, and this is

the killer of the penalty here that comes after, but if he did, when I

was in that position, when it was that far out to the touchline, if I

fancied having a go I'd make sure the kicker was interested in having

a go as well. There's nothing worse than having a kicker who doesn't

fancy taking a shot, so you have the conversation before you make the

declaration, but I think one of the things that has happened there, if

you do decide to go to the corner, the penalty there is a killer. They

need to at least win the ball and if it's on the ground at least they are

five metres on the Scottish line with possession. If they give away a

penalty, Scotland can exit with a 40 metre kick down the pitch and it's a

killer blow to the mentality. If you see the Scottish players celebrating

when the penalty was awarded, that was a big moment in the game. Lets

see the Seymour try. Was this crossing? Should it have been a

penalty? Or was it brilliant? It's good play. The dummy runner comes

in, but Liam bites on it, he's out of the game because he's in front of

the ball. It's obstruction that creates a space for Visser on the

outside. Because he bites early tokens of the gap for Vista, he runs

inside shoulder for Leigh Halfpenny and he scores. So, for me, I don't

think it's obstruction. They called it right. He in front of the ball.

Paul, what do you think? I think it's obstruction. I don't think he's

in a position to get the ball and he's in front of Hogg when Hogg

passes the ball. If Hogg had given it there, it wasn't, but he's in

front of Hogg when he passes the ball. I think it's borderline 50-50.

He can be in front of him, he just can't beat the left side as we look

the right side of him. But Liam Williams, if Liam Williams ran into

Hugh Jones, its penalty. Look at that offensive linemen, Finn Russell

flies the pass out on the outside shoulder, George North has to make a

decision. He's jumped out of the line again. It's a brilliant pass,

on normal speed the two passes bullet like. The passive quick and

then the Hogg pass, this is in slow motion. He zips it out, there it

goes, but shooting up the line a bit, and if you hit his outside

shoulder with the pass, the path could beat him, but the difference

has been for Wales, for me, the penalty kick, go for goal or not.

16-13, a conversion rate in scoring tries from those positions are very

low, so you get back and you are drawing again. So for me, Scotland,

they are asking questions of the Welsh defence, where we aren't doing

that anymore. Well, so many questions, not many answers, but

actually, riveting, absolutely riveting for the weekend. Thank you,

guys, for being with us. In a fortnight's time, Wales and Ireland

on the Friday night, on the Saturday night it is utterly against France

and England against Scotland. England have now won ten matches in

a row in the championship for the first time in 92 years. Scanned

Scotland or Ireland beat them? What tactics will they employ? We will

see you in two weeks' time. Thank you for watching. Goodbye.

COMMENTATOR: The opening try. A corner. What a

try for England. Three tries. He's in. Anthony Watson. Danny Care. This

is why he's been picked in England's Grand Slam. Ben Te'o. Elliot Daly

for England scores! Care. So, apparently Red Nose Day is back.

Cool. We love Red Nose Day. Yes. So, Comic Relief have asked

if we could maybe help this year. Comic Relief? Yes.

So, like, what is that? Right.