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Union leaders hold fresh talks with ministers three days ahead of


planned strikes by public sector workers. The Government has


condemned the planned a walkout by teachers and civil servants over


their pensions, but unions stand firm. We are sorry about the


disruption but we think we have to defend the pension scheme.


The international criminal court has issued arrest warrants for


Colonel Gaddafi and two of his closest allies.


A major shake-up at the Ministry of Defence - it is aimed at tackling


waste, red tape and rivalry between the armed forces.


David Cameron announces deals worth �1.4 billion with China but denies


trade was being secured at the expense of human rights.


In hot water, but they are delighted - and why engineers have


rolled beneath the streets of Newcastle in a bid for a greener


future. And I am at a baking hot at


Wimbledon where Andy Murray is due on Centre Court for his 4th round


Good afternoon. Ministers and union leaders will


hold fresh talks as lunchtime ahead of planned strikes by public-sector


workers on Thursday. Or to three- quarters of a million teachers and


civil servants are set to walk out in protest at plans to reform


public sector pensions. The strike will close schools and is likely to


cause widespread disruption if it goes ahead. Unions are threatening


more action in the autumn. They are gearing up for the walkout.


This morning, members of the Civil Service union were reminding


workers about Thursday's strikes will stop as many as three-quarters


of a million public sector employees could join the action,


including thousands of teachers in England and Wales. Two teaching


unions voted to join the protest. Since February we have been talking


to them and asking them to shift on the idea we have to pay 50% more,


work until 68 and get less from the RPI and CPI in retirement. We have


not seen any sign of movement on any of those questions. What do you


say to those parents whose lives will be disrupted because you're


members are going on strike? don't want the strike to happen, we


want the Government to talk and tell us these things will be put


right. We are sorry about the disruption but we think we have to


defend the pension scheme. Trade union leaders are meeting to talk


tactics ahead of Nick associations with ministers later. They are


trying to hammer out an agreement about the future of public sector


pensions and the Government says these strikes shouldn't happened.


The discussions are going on now. We have a meeting today and another


one next week. The idea it is remotely appropriate to contemplate


strike action while the discussions are going on is wrong. It is


inappropriate. The Education Secretary said parents could help


keep schools open on Thursday. In Leeds, the worry is how they will


get to work. I feel sympathy, but I won't get paid so it does not help


me. I think the teachers have a point. I think public sector


workers in general are getting a card deal. It is going to mean I


have to get childcare to go to work. Thursday's strikes seems very


likely to go ahead, but it is the prospect of a bigger walkout in the


autumn that could focus talks across the negotiating table today.


At the moment there seems little room for agreement. The Government


is clear pension age must rise and contributions to pensions must


increase. But a leaked documents shows that the unions this agree on


those core issues. Despite the rhetoric, talking continues and the


two sides will meet again next month.


Our industry correspondent is here. Talks might be continuing but it is


very unlikely they will avert strikes on Thursday? Indeed, not


least one of the unions are striking over a whole range of


issues, not just pensions, they are striking over jobs and pay. They


won't be discussed in these talks will it is likely the strikes will


go ahead on Thursday. We have learnt how far apart they seem to


be. We have heard the Government, a Danny Alexander coming out and


giving specifics on what the Government wants out of the talks.


It wants to see people move from final salary schemes to clear


average schemes. He wants people to work longer and to contribute to


more. A paper the BBC has seen which is the trade union basis for


discussion they passed to the Government last week, the trade


unions have made it clear that on the pension age, they think they


should be no presumption of increases and no change without


agreement. On contribution rates they say they believe there is no


case for increased contribution rates except where they are agreed.


The bottom line is, at this stage the trade unions want a set of


principles to the agreed and not a set of specific. They think the


specific should be left to the schemes specific discussions so


that discussions, the firefighters and teachers discussions, the


details to be discussed their butts and principles to be discussed now.


But will the Government go for that? We'll see what comes out of


these talks this afternoon. Arrest warrants have been issued


for the Libyan leader, Colonel Gaddafi and two of his closest


allies for alleged crimes against humanity. The decision was made by


the International Criminal Court at the Hague. Rebel forces claim they


are making advances in the west of the country, less than 50 miles


from Tripoli. It has been 100 days since Britain became in military


airstrikes on Libya. In 100 days of operations there


have been 5,000 attack missions. The mandate from the UN is to


protect Libyan civilians. Britain is a key participant and says it


has damaged or destroyed more than 500 targets associated with the


Gaddafi regime and its forces. NATO admits there have been civilian


casualties. In this attack, a small boy was among the dead, but NATO


maintained the house was a legitimate target. The rebels,


fighting last week along the coast, insist Colonel Gaddafi is under


increasing pressure, as does NATO. His officials dismiss the


suggestion. The leader is absolutely with us. He is leading


the country every day. He is leading the Daily matters of the


country and helping us conduct the crisis. He is strong, very high in


morale and spirit. As if to underline such claims, state TV


recently showed Colonel Gaddafi meeting tribal leaders. Now, the


judges at the International Criminal Court have turned Colonel


Gaddafi, one of his sons and his intelligence chief into


internationally wanted suspects commissioning arrest warrants. In


the rebel stronghold of Benghazi, some say it is not international


just as they want for Colonel Gaddafi. We're not going to wait to


see him in jail outside Libya of the exile somewhere, this man says.


The Libyan people want to punish him themselves, he and his sons


perpetrated many crimes against us. It may be clear for now, where the


rebels, the military and political and diplomatic efforts will take


them, even from the Nato-led coalition. But the rebels say they


hope Colonel Gaddafi might be out of power before the Muslims


observed at Ramadan in August. In a moment we will speak to Andrew


Harding in Misrata for reaction to the issue of those warrants. But


first to Mark Doyle who was with rubble forces to the west of


Tripoli. The rebels have come down from the


mountain, south-west of Tripoli and the position they hold I visited is


a couple of miles behind me up this road. It means the rebels have a


position approximately 30 miles from Tripoli. I have been yesterday


and today and it seems this position is fairly stable, although


all morning I have heard happy weapon -- heavy weapons being fired


in his desert plane which is on the approaches to Tripoli. I have just


heard some NATO jets overhead as well.


Our World Affairs Correspondent, Andrew Harding in a Misrata force


of the issue a these arrest warrants is seen as significant on


the part of the international community, any reaction to it


there? Quite a reaction. There has been sustained gunfire throughout


the city since the announcement came through. People firing guns


and heavy weapons into the air in celebration. Cars are blaring


behind me. Most people saying, we just want Gaddafi out. When you


press them, people say it would be great if he was put on trial, but


if it were to end this conflict more quickly, people would be happy


to see him in internal exile under house arrest with his close aides


and his family. Most people seem to see that as a realistic way out.


Andrew Harding. A major shake-up of the Ministry of


Defence has been announced, aimed at tackling waste, red tape and


rivalry between the armed forces. The Defence Secretary has vowed to


bring spending at the MoD under control. Reforms will likely mean a


cut in the number of senior officers and the Defence board.


Caroline Wyatt has the details. The aim of these reforms is to


streamline and simplify decision- making at the MoD, added, which has


had many problems. The Defence Secretary has announced reforms


aimed at slimming-down Dickie decision-making committee, the


Defence bought from 12 to eight, taking single service chiefs of it


but allowing them more control and autonomy. Automatic, it could mean


some job cuts at the top, with fewer senior officers and perhaps a


ministerial post to go, to reflect the cuts being made to other ranks


and civil servants. We need to get changed, and we need


to get changed quickly. The question is, can you bring all of


the armed forces, civil servants along with us? I think we can, if


they see the reforms have a clear direction. And I think if they


believe they offer. Even though Britain has the fourth-


biggest defence budget in the world, and currently spends nearly �34


billion annually, roughly 2% of GDP, the National Audit Office reported


in 2009 highlighting a black hole, anything from �6 billion, to �36


billion in equipment over the next decade, without the funds to pay


for it. Some critics say the problem of bureaucracy at the MoD


is long-standing. Every time you try it, it sounds marvellous cut


out the waste, centralise and put it under one a two people. But the


fundamental problems of not enough money and too many demands on that


money will still be pertaining. You might change the architecture, but


I have yet to be convinced it will do what everybody hopes it will.


Many have tried to reform the MoD in the past and it has not always


worked, with the Department going through immense uncertainty and


upheaval cutting civilian and service personnel. How these plans


are implemented will be key to the chances of their success.


An inquest will take place into the death of Christopher Shale, close


friend of the Prime Minister who was found dead at Glastonbury


yesterday. Mr Shayler, the chairman of the Conservative Association in


Mr Cameron's constituency in West Oxfordshire, is thought to have


suffered a heart attack. The body of a man who died on a


Greek island 11 years ago has been exhumed in County Durham.


Christopher Rochester fell from a balcony on holiday and the doctor


who treated him was found guilty of negligence. When his body was


returned it was missing a kidney. His family believe it was removed


illegally. The Greek authorities have called for further DNA samples


from his remains. The clothing chain, Jayne Norman


has gone into administration after closing its 90 stores on Saturday.


600 jobs are at risk. Habitat outside London, owner of Dolphin


bathrooms and mauve and kitchens also went into administration.


Businessmen have signed up business deal with China for more than a


billion pounds. The Chinese premier met with David Cameron in Downing


Street today. The Prime Minister rejected suggestions the trade was


secured at the expense of human rights, saying the UK was


encouraging to Chinese Government to make progress on issues of


politics and democracy. This report does contain flash photography.


China UK summits are more frequent these days and not just about pomp


and ceremony. David Cameron sees premier Wen Jiabao as a partner for


growth, a key player to opening up China to British business. With


every smile and handshake, there are hopes the targets of the �60


billion of bilateral trade by 2015 will be reached. And vital for


Britain it is not only about a more imports, today new deals have been


signed to export pigs and poultry as well as retail and legal


services to China's growing millions of middle-class consumers.


This summit is mainly about trade and business, but human rights on


the agenda. The British Government is arguing Justice and the rule of


law are essential if China's economic progress is to be


sustainable. David Cameron was asked if in Britain's eagerness to


do business with China, he was helping to prop up an authoritarian


regime. We are different countries, different history is and different


stages of development. We should show each other respect. But we are


very clear that political and economic development should go hand


in hand, one supports the other. And Wen Jiabao stressed china


responded better to co-operation than criticism.


TRANSLATION: China and the UK should respect each other, respect


the facts, treat each other as equals and engage in more


corporation than finger-pointing and resolved properly, issues


through dialogue. Dialogue is the buzzword, both


sides hope along with growth and business comes more communication


and understanding of each other's Our top story this lunchtime: Union


leaders are holding fresh talks with ministers three days ahead of


planned strikes by public sector workers.


Coming up: All eyes on Centre Court as Andy Murray battles for a place


in the quarter-finals. So far his match with Richard Gasquet is going


with Sir. Still to come: The rest of the


sport including how the UK's Scientists in Newcastle have hit


the jackpot in their quest for renewable energy. A team has struck


naturally occurring hot water after drilling nearly a mile deep into


the earth's crust. They are ultimately hoping to use the steam


produced to heat homes in the area. Fiona Trott is at the site in


Newcastle. This is the kind of drill that was


used in the Chilean miners rescue and yet here it is, at Newcastle


city centre, a stone's throw from St James's Park. Because scientists


had a strong suspicion that there was hot water deep beneath the


ground and finally, they have been proved right.


It is a rare sight in a city-centre and it is hard work. For four


months, this drill have gone deeper and deeper into the earth's crust,


passing fossils over 300 million years old, and now it has hit the


jackpot. Steaming hot water has finally been found. Scientists are


thrilled. Absolutely over the moon. It has been a long time coming and


it is as low carbon as it could get. The carbon footprint of this


operation ends when their drilling rig get out. The drill is coming on


to 2000 metres below Newcastle. After sandstone, the boredhole will


reach port of up to 80 degrees Celsius. -- will reach water. That


will then be pumped up to the surface. This project has captured


the imagination of school children. Coal is not a renewables substance


but back there, that is renewable because they can get water that is


really hot. What do you think of that? It is good because I am


really interested in science and history and it is putting them


together so it is really good. the university has heeded one of


its own buildings, hundreds of local homes and some businesses


could follow, but first, scientists must test the sandstone which


insulates the water underground. That work will be finished by


September. Let me explain something about the fans don't. They have to


make sure there is enough of it to keep the water hot -- about the


fans don't. The water is pumped through again and again, and that


is why other cities with the sandstone are watching the project


carefully. Geothermal energy has been used before but what


scientists say is so unique about this is the fact they are using


drills and they are going much deeper into the ground. The deeper


they go, the hotter the water will be and the more successful this


project will be as well. The former Justice Secretary, Jack


Straw, has attacked what he called the racket of car insurance


companies that sell customers' details to personal injury claim


firms. Mr Straw said the number of claims companies had doubled in the


past two years and they should be regulated more closely and their


high pressure sales techniques curbed.


The head of the British Medical Association has warned that cuts


being made to the Health Service were being rushed. In a speech to


BMA representatives in Cardiff today, Dr Hamish Meldrum warned the


Government that the medical profession would react strongly to


any cuts that might be seen as knee-jerk or slash-and-burn.


Branwen Jeffreys reports. The images in England is changing.


Plans to give doctors a bigger say over budgets and to encourage


competition -- the NHS in England is changing. The government has


promised 180 changes to the health bill. Today, the union said it


would hold ministers to those promises. We have to ensure that


those legislative changes match up to the rhetoric of the last few


weeks. Over the weekend, we have been examining a 180 government


amendments published on Thursday in minute detail. Insuring what has


been promised is being delivered. But doctors have gathered from


around the UK and share another worry. Even where health spending


is protected, costs are rising faster. Our overshadowing NHS


reform is potentially an even bigger challenge. The challenge of


ever-increasing demands, finite resources and the most difficult


financial situation in all four nations that has ever been faced by


the NHS in its 63 years. Hospitals in some areas are feeling the pinch.


In England, this is where many of the efficiency savings are being


made. The BMA is worried about growing variation in treatment from


one area to another but managers say the NHS can make its savings


without damaging patient care. are determined to make the savings


without reducing patient care. What we are trying to do is make sure


that where we can get to people earlier, where we can avoid


hospital admissions because we can treat in primary care, that is what


we need to do. All the doctors know they are working in a tough


financial climate. The NHS has to find ways of doing more for the


fame manage with smack less and in England, within a couple of years,


it will be doctors, not managers, making those decisions -- the NHS


have to find ways of doing more for the fame of money with less.


Police in the Irish Republic believe they have foiled a planned


bomb attack in Northern Ireland by dissident republicans. They say


home made explosive material, which was found on a farm in County Louth


on Saturday, could have been used to make a 500-pound car bomb. Two


men have been arrested. Mark Simpson is in Belfast.


Even when Northern Ireland's grim standards, �500 macro is a big bomb


and even though it was found on the southern side of the Irish border,


it was destined for Northern Ireland. Obviously police on very


high alert in Belfast after last week's violence, particularly


involving loyalists, but they have to keep their eye on dissident


republicans as well, particularly the group that is believed to have


been making that bomb. It is a dissident faction known as Oglaigh


Na h'Eireann. It is relatively new but it is dangerous. The police


know: They tried to smuggle him one bomb and they will probably try to


smuggle him more. What is the carb level of threat by


dissident groups? -- the current level of threat?


It is as high as it has been in recent years and it is pretty acute


because we are into the marching season, the time of year we


dissidents and loyalists are the most active, but the police is


taking comfort from two things. How quickly they were able to quell the


violence in East Belfast last week and the level of North-South co-


operation between the police have never been better, as was evidenced


by the finding of the bomb at the weekend.


There were violent scenes in Argentina after the legendary


football club River Plate was relegated to the second division


for the first time in its 110-year history. Police used water cannons


on the enraged crowd after they shouted insults at the players. The


violence then escalated outside the stadium in Buenos Aires and at


least 25 people were injured as It looks set to be the hottest day


of the year in parts of the country today and it's no exception at


Wimbledon where the sun is shining and the British number one, Andy


Murray, has just begun his battle for a place in the quarter-finals.


He's on Centre Court playing the Frenchman Richard Gasquet in the


fourth round. They have played each other four times before, with each


winning twice. Sally Nugent is there.


I can tell you that today is generally agreed to be the best day


of the Wimbledon fortnight. It is the fourth round. Plenty of matches


to watch. And it is baking hot! Andy Murray is on Centre Court.


Only at Wimbledon. They have camped out in the rain, now it is time to


swelter in the heat. To cheer on Andy Murray, you must be prepared


for every eventuality. Hot weather, late nights and nail-biting moments


of drama. The man himself has to keep a cool head today, with the


Centre Court roof open and an opponent he knows very well. He has


won all of his matches pretty comfortably so far and he plays


very well on grass, he is comfortable on the surface, so it


will be really tough. Murray and Gasquet have history. Back in 2008,


with the Frenchman on the brink of victory, Andy Murray fought back to


win in five gruelling sets. It was the year the British No. 1 came of


age. He is not likely to let today's high temperatures get in


his way. You can never get too hot in this country. Sometimes in


Australia, it can get a bit tricky. There is also a breeze today.


Murray fans be warned. He said he is expecting a tough match. But


even Gasquet has hinted the Scotsman has the measure of him.


has been very good, he is number four in the world since a long time,


one of the best players. He has done a lot of finals, he won the


series, so if you really can win and why not this year? Before the


plane is stepped on court, the biggest cheer of the day was for


the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge. But with the match now under way,


and Ian Murray will want to make short work of his French opponent.


-- Andy Murray. Gasquet is currently leading 2-1 in


the first set but plenty of other tennis today. All of the big four


men. Roger Federer, Djokovic and Rafael Nadal. One word of warning:


Although it looks beautifully sunny now, we are expecting rain later on.


Hotting up in the tennis and of course, whether wives. We might


only have it for one day there. How At bet with the tennis players


stepped on Centre Court, it was like opening the oven door. It is


not pleasant. But just one day of this excessive heat with a big


contrast across the UK. It is somewhere from London to leadership,


they could see a 33 today. -- London to Lincolnshire. Big


differences, 20 degrees colder in Lossiemouth. A big contrast. There


is Collette air out to the far north and west and over the next


few hours, it is the last day we will see these hot temperatures.


Thunderstorms in the hottest areas. They have been starting to break


out already in the last few hours in south-west England, and these


will move further east, especially into England. At 4pm, a scattering


of heavy showers in the South West and Southern Wales. The cloud


increasing all the way, and into the Midlands as well. Cloudy in


Northern Ireland with patchy rain. Look at the temperatures as we go


across these areas. Nothing like 30. Just 12 degrees in the eastern side


of Scotland. Heavy showers in northern England and the East


Midlands. Civic heat, into the 30s. But that some will be turning


increasingly hazy -- but the front- runner will be turning increasingly


hazy. Hopefully Andy Murray will not make that game last too long.


We should focus on the heavy downpours moving into the south-


east of England through the course of the evening. Very gusty winds


are possible with these, and widespread thunder and lightning.


Even if you hear some thunder, you might not get too much rain but


some torrential downpours are possible. A fresh and light


elsewhere. Still while the warm in the South East but not quite as


warm perhaps as last night. More cloud in the South East tomorrow


with thundery downpours. Rain possible in the Midlands and north-


east England, brighter skies to the north and west. Still rather warm


enough South East but the last day of the excessive heat. For the rest


of the week, temperatures will be closer to average. Most places will


be dry. Back To today, we are very hot across the South East but not


as hot as in France, where they may break a record for the hottest day


in June on record. We have dodged Thank goodness it is not 40! Good


this me! A reminder of our top story:


Ministers and union leaders will hold talks this lunchtime ahead of


planned strike by public sector workers on Thursday.


The International Criminal Court in the Hague has issued an arrest