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find information on routine operations like hip knee surgery

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contained significant errors and inconsistencies. Also this

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lunchtime, Britain is asked to take in more Syrian refugees. The Prime

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Minister is said to be open-minded about accepting those fleeing the

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conflict. Crime against households and adults in England and Wales

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falls to a 33 year low according to The Crime Survey. More than 1400

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soldiers are to lose their jobs in the latest round of cuts, but

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Britain's security won't be put at risk, says the government.

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Britain's battered coasts, how the recent storms have revealed

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artefacts dating back thousands of years. And 900 years of history

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comes to an end with the first women's quiet Canterbury Cathedral.

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Later on BBC London, transport bosses announced plans to use

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backroom staff to work during the tube strike. And Thames Water says

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sorry over blocked sewers, after a pumping station is flooded.

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Good afternoon and welcome to the BBC News at One. Information about

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waiting times for routine operations such as knee and hip replacements in

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England is unreliable because of errors and inconsistencies in the

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way they are compiled. The public spending watchdog says it means

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patients can't compare the performances of different hospital

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trusts when they are deciding where to go for treatment. The Department

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of Health says overall waiting times remain low and they will work with

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the NHS to ensure more accurate figures. Our health correspondent

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Branwen Jeffreys reports. Managing with a sore hip is not easy. Sue

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Walker has been waiting since March last year. Hip replacement needs to

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be repaired. The operation was finally due to happen this week, so

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her son took time off to be at home. But at the last minute, when she was

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in a hospital bed, it was cancelled. The longer it goes on as it is the

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worse it will get and the more difficult it will be for them to

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replace. I find it really distressing, because I'm thinking

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it's going to be even more difficult getting back to normal once I've had

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the operation, the longer the waiting goes on. There are rules

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about waiting times in England full stop 90% of patients having a

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routine operation should get it within 18 weeks. 650 patient records

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were looked at in detail as part of this investigation. Only 43% were

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accurate. Most of the mistakes and recorded how long patients waited.

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Trusts can face tough financial penalties if patients wait too long.

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This report found people don't know their rights on waiting and

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hospitals often don't make them clear. But managers insist mistakes

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in waiting records aren't hiding a bigger problem. There is no

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suggestion in this report that recordings are deliberate. Hospitals

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are working flat out to treat patients as quickly as possible.

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There is some tightening up that needs to be done but patients are

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getting better car. Labour says this calls into question claims about

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waiting times. But ministers argue there are fewer people facing very

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long waits under this government. Almost patients care about is

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knowing when exactly they can expect their operation.

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Downing Street says the Prime Minister is open-minded about a cool

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-- about a call to accept more refugees from the Syrian conflict.

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The UN is asking Western countries to accept 30,000 reference desk --

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referee -- refugees. David Cameron said his preference was to support

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displaced people inside the region. That speaks our chief political

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correspondent Norman Smith in Westminster. This issue will be

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debated and voted on in Parliament next week. It is also my senses the

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decision will be made before then because the mood music emerging from

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government is that we are poised to accept Syrian refugees, a small

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number, several hundred, because those around Mr Clegg this morning

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saying he is confident such a decision will be reached and reached

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"soon" . Those around Mr Cameron say he is open-minded to a change of

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people can make a compelling case for accepting Syrian refugees and

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what is driving this is two things. The brutal politics, that vote, with

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the likelihood of significant of Liberal Democrat and Tory MPs may

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support the Labour motion but more than that I think is the fear in

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government circles that they are somehow perceived as the bad guys,

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when the view in government is actually we have a pretty good story

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to tell in terms of help for Syrian refugees. We provide more cash than

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the rest of the EU, we have taken in some 1000 Syrian asylum seekers and

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I think there's a desire not to be seen in those circumstances to be

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dragging our feet, or holding out against Syrian refugees. Norman

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Smith unwed spinster, thank you very much. In Switzerland the United

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Nations is hoping to pave the way for the first direct talks tomorrow

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between the Syrian government and opposition since the conflict began

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three years ago. The mediator is meeting delegations today from both

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sides separately to try to establish if there is enough common ground for

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formal negotiations to begin. Our world affairs correspondent Paul

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Wood is in Geneva and all this after what was a pretty rocky start

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yesterday. Yes, the hope was under the assumption by the UN was in the

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building behind me both sides would sit across the table and engage in

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the kind of direct dialogue. There hasn't been this in three years of

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civil war. Then we have the opening of the conference yesterday in

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Montreux. It was always going to be speeches and not direct

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negotiations, but those speeches were so ill tempered, there was such

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enmity on display, but news started to filter out from the two

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delegations they did not think they could sit and talk to each other so

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delegations they did not think they Lakhdar Brahimi is trying to patch

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things up and have meetings with both sides and later tonight we

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should know whether they are going to talk face-to-face. Into this

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rather toxic mix has been thrown some remarks by Hassan Rouhani, the

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Iranian president, who was also in Switzerland for the Davos meeting.

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Each had their should be a Syrian solution in Syria, there should be

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elections and he doesn't think these talks have much chance of

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succeeding. Given that Iran is the bankroll and the major support of

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Syria, a lot of people are wondering whether Iran through its influence

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on President Assad is going to be the spoiler for these talks. There

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wasn't much optimism surrounding the meeting tomorrow.

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Paul Wood, thank you very much. Crime against households and adults

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in England and Wales has fallen to its lowest level in 33 years, since

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The Crime Survey began. The survey's figures suggest the number

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of crimes recorded dropped by 10% in the year to September. The Crime

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Survey, which estimates levels based on how many people say they have

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been victims, says there were about 8 million incidents. Separate

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figures from the police also recorded a drop in overall crime.

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Our home affairs correspondent Danny Shaw is with me. Give us some more

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detail about these figures? These figures from The Crime Survey are

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very interesting because they include crimes that are reported to

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the police at all and these -- and this survey is independent of the

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Belize and it has shown that for almost 20 years there has been a

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near continuous reduction in levels of offending and in the 12 months to

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the end of September last year compared to the same period the year

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before The Crime Survey showed that overall offences were down 10%. We

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saw reductions in burglary, car crime, thefts and also a 13% fall in

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violence. That is very significant because that takes levels of

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violence to the lowest since the survey began in 1981. You have the

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police reported crime figures and the reliability of those has been

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questioned recently. Yes, there have been concerns these figures are

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being manipulated all fit -- fiddled and there has been a debate into

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that and because of that these figures have lost their kitemark

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awarded by the UK Statistics Authority. But what they show pretty

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much is similar to the official Crime Survey. Please crime overall

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is down 3%. We saw how there were some areas where some categories

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were booking this trend, with shoplifting up in 29 of the 43

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police forces, fraud was up and sex offences, we saw an increase there

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of 17% and this was mainly due to more victims coming forward after

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the Jimmy Savile programme in October 2012, having the courage to

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report crimes are the police and most of those reports are in fact of

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historical offences, crimes, sex crimes that date back more than 20

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years. Danny Shaw, thank you very much.

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More than 1400 soldiers are to lose their jobs in the latest round of

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defence cuts. Almost 100 medical posts from the RAF and Navy are also

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being cut. Soldiers currently serving or about the size in

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Afghanistan will be exempt. The army -- the Army is cutting the number of

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regulars from 100,000 to 82000 x 2017 but the number of reservists is

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being increased. Jonathan Beale in reports.

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It has been a confusing message. The Army wants to sign a new recruits.

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Last weekend they were in Nottingham trying to drum up interest but at

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the same time it's been laying off thousands of troops. Not the easiest

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sales pitch. It is tough times. There are cuts going on but we still

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need to replace people who are leaving at the end of their careers.

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Statement the Secretary of State for defence. This morning the Secretary

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of State for defence said there will be another round of Dick --

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redundancies but he said it would be the least painful and the last. I

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can confirm the overall number of redundancies is required is

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considerably lower than that predicted in a number of recent

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press articles and lower than in each of the three previous tranches.

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It will comprise up to 1425 members of the Army and up to 70 medical and

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dental officers from the Royal Air Force and up to ten from the Royal

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Navy. It's all part of the defence cuts that will see the size of the

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regular Army shrink from about 100,000, to just over 80,000 troops.

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There have already been three rounds or tranches of redundancies, was

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last year four point -- with last year 4500 soldiers losing their

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jobs. This year's tranche of 1400 redundancies should be the final

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round. It is the beginning of the end of uncertainty for people across

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defence and in particular the Army, as I'm sat here talking to you.

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Redundancy is difficult and problematic because that -- at its

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core is people who we care passionately about, very good

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people, but we have to do this to get the arm of the right size and

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the right skills for the future. The Gurkhas will be one of the hardest

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units hit. Few of them volunteered to leave. Any soldier serving in

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Afghanistan will be exempt from the process. The Army says this is a

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last planned round of redundancies but with the Chancellor making clear

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he wants further cuts in public spending there are no guarantees.

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A coroner has ruled that there were missed opportunities in the care and

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treatment of four-year-old boy who died after surgery at Bristol

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Children's Hospital. Sean Turner died from a brain hemorrhage and

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other complications in March 20 12, six weeks after he was operated on.

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The coroner said she had not heard any evidence of gross failures to

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provide basic care. Our correspondent Duncan Kennedy

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reports. Football loving, adoring

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four-year-old. It was how Sean Turner's parents described the

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little boy. In March last year he was admitted to Bristol's children's

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hospital with severe heart problems. But the inquest was told that after

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only 18 hours in intensive care he was returned to a cardiac ward

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because of pressures on beds and staff. His parents say they pleaded

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for Sean to be returned to the ICU unit. We begged for four days to go

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back to intensive care but nobody listened. They seemed to make

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observations on Shaun Batt were quite worrying and then walk away

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and do nothing. The nursing staff particularly in the night, you

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couldn't find a nurse to help you. We felt we were caring for him by

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ourselves. He was sent back to intensive care but died four weeks

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later after a massive lead in his brain. Today, a coroner recorded

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what is called a narrative conclusion after a week-long inquest

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into Sean's death. She said there had been lost opportunities in the

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medical treatment the four-year-old had received. Speaking for the

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family their lawyer said there was a lack of leadership, accountability

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and communication. Yellow bobbing in our opinion Sean was in the wrong

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hospital with the wrong surgeon. We have to try to rebuild our lives

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without our little boy. The Bristol children's heart unit is facing

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legal action over at least ten cases in which children have died or were

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left severely damaged after care at the hospital since 2008. The

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hospital authorities today said they had made changes since the case of

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Sean Turner. The inquest has also highlighted some missed

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opportunities in the care we gave to shore when managing his

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post-operative computations and in our communication with the family. I

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would like to offer my sincere apologies to Mr and Mrs Turner for

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the additional distress we have caused them in relation to Sean's

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death. Sean's parents may join the calls of other families for a public

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enquiry into what went on at this Children's Hospital. As part of

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their grieving process. For the boy who loved life. Car production in

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the UK has hit a six-year high. The Society of Motor Manufacturers and

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Traders says more than1.5 million cars were made last year - that's

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one every 20 seconds. Our industry correspondent John Moylan reports.

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At Jaguar Land Rover's planned in Solihull, they have never been

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busier. Demand is soaring around the world. The last two years was about

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replacing the range Rover sport. We hired 2000 people. Going forward we

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will be launching a new architecture, new Jaguar products on

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the Solihull site. We will hire 1700 people this year and spend money

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making it happen. Jaguar Land Rover is a genuine success story. Its

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fortunes have been transformed over the past five years. It posted

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global sales of almost 20%. It is part of the reason why in 2013, UK

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car production grew by more than 3%. It means more than 1.5 million cars

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were built in Britain. That is back at prerecession levels, the highest

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volume since 2007. But there were losers. At Vauxhall's els near Port

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plans, they build the Astra sport. Its biggest market is Germany but

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the weakness in that economy has hit sales. Production also fell at

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Honda. What we are seeing in Europe is a gradual and slower recovery

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from the recession. In 2013, the last three or four months saw an

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increase in demand for new cars. If that continues the impact on UK

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production will be positive as we will be exporting more cars into

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Europe as their economies recover. In Solihull, this success has given

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local suppliers the confidence to expand, and with plans to hire 400

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new staff and with growth in the sector, there could be record levels

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of car sales in 2014. Our top story this lunchtime:

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Patients in England are told they can't trust figures on hospital

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waiting times - a health watchdog said they contain significant errors

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and inconsistencies. And still to come: Jones has put it

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over. More misery for Manchester United. They crash out of the

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capital cup and slide down football's Rich list.

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Later on BBC London: Surgeons at St Georges are offering patients with

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deep vein thrombosis new hope. And we speak to Hollywood actress,

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Angela Lansbury - returning to the London stage after nearly 40 years.

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The coast of Wales being battered during the winter storms earlier

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this month. The huge waves that crashed on shore didn't just damage

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seaside resorts. A four-mile stretch of coastline near Tywyn in Cardigan

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Bay was so altered by the sea that it's been pushed back 50 feet. But

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damage has brought with it some surprises. The new coastline has

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revealed artefacts from World War II and even ancients forests with the

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remains of trees dating back 6,000 years. Richard Lister is in Tywyn.

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This looks like the classic winter beach scene, complete with the

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gales. But beneath those waves lie the newly exposed remnants of a

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forest not seen for thousands of years and at low tide, all is

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revealed. These days, the people of Tywyn are

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waking up to a view that is different than what they are used

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to. The winter storms has taken this part of the Welsh coast back to the

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Stone Age revealing a fossil forest with ancient stumps and fallen tree

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trunks. Local archaeologists it is a rare opportunity to step back 6000

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years and examine the landscape walked up by the first people who

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lived here. We can get a tiny fragments of ancient peat. But we

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can see the spatial extent. We can see how big the tree stumps were. We

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can see how they were spaced and get a clearer picture of what the

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ancient landscape was like. Antlers from a red deer were also exposed,

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more evidence of the forest that was here when the shoreline was miles

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away. This photo taken last year shows how much has changed, creating

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a new attraction. The beach has been as busy as some of the days in the

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summer. Local schools ring me up if I can arrange the local tides so

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they can bring the kids to see this. It is starting to cover over. Maybe

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within a week or two it will be back to just sound like it was before.

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More recent history has been revealed like these tank tracks and

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when it was a wartime training area, and these remnants of peat cutting

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and possibly medieval fish traps. Nobody is sure, but now they are

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visible. It would have been hard to know this sweep of beach was a dense

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woodland as the ice age receded. But what the storms have revealed is it

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has given new life to the slice of ancient Welsh history. What the C

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Gibbs, it also takes away. It won't be too long before these historical

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treasures buried again. Some of the forest that was visible

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a few days ago has been covered in sand and other bits are being broken

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of either porosity of the waves. If you do want to come and see what is

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here, make it quick. An alleged victim of the veteran DJ,

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Dave Lee Travis has told a court he pinned her up against a wall while

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presenting his Radio 1 show and assaulted her when she was aged 17.

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He denies 13 counts of indecent assault and one of sexual assault.

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Our correspondent, Jon Brain was in court.

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Tell us more about what was said first remark this woman said she had

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met DLT on a couple of occasions and there had never been any problem.

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One afternoon she was near his studio when he was presenting his

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programme. He invited her in to choose the next record. When she got

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into the studio he turned the main light off and got her to dance with

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him. She said his embrace was getting tighter until she realised

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he had become aroused. She said she was horrified, was a virgin and

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never been touched like this before. She tried to get out and pin her

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against a wall and would not let her go, put his hand up her skirt. She

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said she did not complain because DJs like Dave Lee Travis at that

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time were considered demigods, it was all about audience ratings.

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Someone like I would never have had a complaint -- chants with a

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complaint like that. She only came forward when complaints against

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Jimmy Savile came out. She said she went to the BBC then in 2012 and she

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was told we not taking calls of that nature.

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Anti-government protestors who've been clashing with police in the

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Ukrainian capital, Kiev, have agreed to hold a truce for a few hours

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while talks take place between the president and opposition leaders. At

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least two people have died in the violence which broke out on

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least two people have died in the From Kiev, here's our correspondent

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Daniel Sandford. More fuel for the burning barricades

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of Keir will stop what started as a pro-European union protest, has

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become a revolutionary movements, trying to bring down the Ukrainian

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government. Hidden behind this curtain of thick, black smoke from

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the burning tyres, are rows of riot police guarding the hill that leads

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up to Ukraine's national parliament. At times it resembles

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medieval warfare with catapults. And priests fraying as the fires burn.

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The conflict has casualties. This 17-year-old was captured by the

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police and claims he was severely beaten as he walked through a long

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tally of riot officers. He said he was stripped naked and cut with

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knives. TRANSLATION: their eyes were shining

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like drug addicts. They were enjoying beating me. They said it

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was for their colleague who has been in a coma for nearly two months. On

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the barricades, a group of men with fireworks stood ready like an

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artillery battery. I asked what they were trying to achieve by the

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violence. TRANSLATION: domain name is the

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liberation of the nation. As long as I have been alive we have always

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been repressed. If we can get along with Europe, that is good. The use

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of plastic bullets by the police has infuriated testers. Europe, please

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get help us get rid of the President, this woman said. The

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Ukrainian president said a compromise with the opposition is

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possible. But he said what he called anti constitutional activity should

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stop. Then, one of the opposition leaders, the former world boxing

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champion, Vitali Klitschko managed to negotiate a truce at the front

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line. Nobody knows how long that will hold.

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Manchester United's miserable season got even worse last night, with a

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penalty shoot-out defeat to Sunderland in the Capital Cup semi

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final. And this morning - more bad news for

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Man U as it dropped out of the top three in Deloitte's football rich

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list for the first time. Now there are serious doubts as to whether

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they'll get a Champions League spot. Our sports correspondent Andy Swiss

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reports. It was a night that summed up their

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season. With a Wembley final at stake, Manchester United's nerve

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crumbled inspect tacky love fashion. One of the worst penalty shoot outs

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in memory. Handing Sunderland victory and United's critics another

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field day. As Sir Alex Ferguson watched on, his successor could only

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reflect on another grim results. We did not play that well. I we have

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laid well in some games are not have the rewards. That is football. We

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will get on with it. For The Reds, they have had a horrible case of the

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January blues. First the FA Cup against Swansea, they lost that.

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Then defeat to Chelsea effectively ended their Premier League hopes.

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And now they will end the season trophy less. The only good news, the

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expected signing of Chelsea midfielder, Juan Mata ?437 million a

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club record. The last minute they scored that goal and they could have

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won, I just think Alex Ferguson going, they have gone down.

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Shocking. Confidence is at an all-time low. They are missing a

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whole midfield and defence. But their rivals are now catching them

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off the pitch as well. For the first time ever they have dropped out of

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the top three of Europe's biggest earning clubs. If they start failing

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to qualify for the champions league, their problems could grow.

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Problems on the pitch is only short-term, it is only if it goes

:26:46.:26:50.

into a matter of months and years, then it might have an impact.

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Greater Manchester Police revealed one supporter dialled 999 and mass

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to speak to Sir Alex Ferguson. They pointed out that it wasn't an

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emergency, but for Manchester United, the pain is for all to see.

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For 900 years the choir at Canterbury Cathedral has been

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male-only. But that tradition is about to change. This weekend the

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Cathedral's first girls' choir will perform at an Evensong service. Our

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correspondent, John Maguire has been to see them rehearse for their big

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debut. They have only been together since

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November, but just listen to this. SINGING.

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They are just two days away from making history. It is a good

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opportunity. It is scary. Being the first girls in a quiet, big

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expectations. The first time will be exciting, but quite a bit of

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pressure. The male choir house to sing every day, the girls will not

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have that level of commitment, but if they are in any doubt of their

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responsibilities, look at this. They are being interviewed by the

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international media, and that is before singing in public. It is only

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20 years since the first women priests in the church of England and

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so far, no female bishops, so are the voices of girls in the choir

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stalls overdue? I think the sound we are producing with the boys and this

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choir of girls, there will be different sounds. No doubt in the

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future they will sing together, but we can achieve diversity of musical

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sounds, which we have had already developing. The girls have only met

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a few times, but their director believes they have made huge

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progress. It was no surprise to find they sang very well together indeed.

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Hopefully they will take gone a bit more in the Cathedral and possibly

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away from the cathedral. Concerts, and going on tour and possibly

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making a recording in the future. Who knows?

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SINGING. Musically, this choir will provide a

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new sound for Canterbury Cathedral when this particular group makes

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history. No mean feat when you consider choral music here dates

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back almost 1000 years. Now time for the weather.

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Plenty of rain in the forecast. This in the Atlantic is heading our way.

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We saw some rain earlier, but there is something brighter behind. So

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there are spells of sunshine to be found, but equally, a scattering of

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showers. The showers will be heavy in the north and the west of the

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country. A few showers drifting through the Midlands and getting

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towards London in the afternoon. Many places enjoying sunshine.

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Temperatures peaking at eight or nine degrees. Into the second part

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of the afternoon and evening, skies stay clear for longest across the

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northern part of the UK. A risk of ice in Scotland. The further west,

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we have cloud, wind and rain moving in. It turns temporarily to snow

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across Scotland. Cold in the east by dawn. Temperatures down to freezing

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or just below for towns and cities. Tomorrow will be about the rain.

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Rainfall amounts are not huge but amber warnings have been issued for

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Somerset Levels because of ongoing flood levels. The rain will be

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heaviest in the south-west of the UK. The rain is showing its hand in

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the London area at 8am. In East Anglia it is cold and dry.

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Elsewhere, there is a fair bit of rain around. Actual rainfall amounts

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will not be huge, a little bit of snow across Scotland. Rainfall will

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be not huge, but it will be dull and down. Rain always heaviest in the

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South and West, but with the wind in the north of the UK it will feel

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cold. Some of us will get it towards the double figure mark, but for most

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it is only four, five or possibly six degrees. The rain is gone by

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Saturday morning. So for the southern half of the UK it is a

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reasonable start. But for the North, bands of rain sweeping south. The

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rain clears away to the south-east through the evening and then it

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turns cold to start on Sunday. But low pressure is heading our way. It

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will be windy, gales or severe gales and we

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