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At 6.00pm - MPs vote for British air strikes against Islamic State in

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Tonight, RAF planes are on standby in Cyprus, poised to strike this

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This isn't a threat on the far side of the world. Left unchecked, we'll

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face a terrorist caliphate with a declared and proven determination to

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In acting against them, we need to learn lessons from the past. That

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means a comprehensive strategy, crucially rooted in the region.

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With IS fighting hard on the ground, there's broad support in the Commons

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but also some sharp criticism of the Government's strategy.

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We'll be assessing Britain's role in the growing international coalition

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The last people who should be returning to the scene of their

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former crimes, are Britain, France and the United States of America.

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We'll be assessing Britain's role in the growing international coalition

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of the Islamic state and whether there is Government support for

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action. The other headlines:

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Dave Lee Travis escapes a jail sentence for groping a TV researcher

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and maintains the case should never have come to court.

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NIgel Farage unveils a policy of tax cuts and says UKIP has both the

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COMMENTATOR: Has it got the legs? It has.

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And Justin Rose rises to the occasion as Europe tries to take

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control in a tense opening day at the Ryder Cup.

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The Met is criticised for failing a 15-year-old girl stabbed to death

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And claims that housing costs are driving employees away

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and threatening London businesses.

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Good evening and welcome to the BBC News at Six.

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We're at Westminster, where, within the last hour, MPs have

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voted overwhelmingly to support British air strikes in Iraq.

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The Prime Minister said it's vital to take on what he called the

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"clear and present threat" of Islamic State, calling its fighters

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He said the fight against IS will take years,

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but it won't involve British ground troops - although Downing Street

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has indicated that small numbers could be deployed in support roles.

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He also said there is a "strong case" for UK military

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The Labour leader, Ed Miliband, said the UK can't simply look on,

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First this evening, our Deputy Political Editor,

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James Landale, on a day of debate about British military action.

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Once it was the lonely responsibility of the Prime

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Minister. But these days, going to war is also a decision for

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Parliament. So, MPs and peers arrived at Westminster today, to

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debate whether Britain should join the armed conflict against so-called

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Islamic state. They arrived to hear the Prime Minister tell them that

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air strikes in Iraq were legal, militarily necessary and in the

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national interest. The case for war, he said, was that

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Britain had a duty to act. There was no option to walk on by.

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This is not a threat on the far side of the world. Left unchecked, we

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will face a terrorist caliphate, on the shores of the Mediterranean, and

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bordering a NATO member, with a declared and proven determination to

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attack our country, and our people. In his mind, in MPs' minds, the

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murder of the British aid worker, David Haines, and the fates of two

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other British hostages, Alan Henning and John Cantley, and he said, the

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plots that Islamic state had planned in Britain. The brutality is

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staggering. Beheadings, Crucifixions, the gouging out of

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eyes. The use of rain as a weapon, the slaughter of children. All these

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things belong to the dark ages. But with his hands shaking, he told MPs

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that this military action would not be over quickly. The hallmarks of

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this campaign will be patience and persistence, not shock and awe.

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Apart from a few troops guiding air strikes, he said there would be no

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combat infantry on the ground and the action would be limited to Iraq,

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but... How long will this war last and when will mission creep start?

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Well, let me answer that very directly. This is going to be a

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mission that will take not just months, but years.

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Ed Miliband opposed the last war in Iraq and said he understood people's

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unease but the Labour Leader said the situation was different to 2003.

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Military action now was just, legal and proportionate.

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This case is about supporting a democratic state. It is not about

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overturning an existing regime and seeking to build a new one. Although

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this is difficult, it is the right thing to do. There is no graver

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decision for our Parliament and our country. But protecting our national

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interest, security and the values for which we stand is why I will be

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supporting the motions this afternoon. Over in the House of

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Lords, church and state for once were singing from the same hymn

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sheet. The action proposed today is right. But we must not rely on a

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short-term solution, on a narrow front, to a global ideological

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religious and transgenerational challenge. But some MPs set out the

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case for caution Look at what the House of Commons agreed to. Iraq,

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Afghanistan n this Government, Libya. None are success stories. Are

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we going to embark on action that could last for years? It is a gang

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of terrorist murderers, Isil, it is not an Army and it is certainly not

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an Army that's going to be destroyed by aerial bombardment. Where are we

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going? What is the long-term purpose? What is the strategy. Is it

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seriously contended by air strikes alone, we can actually roll back

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Isil or is it gesture politics? The drum beat of war, my Lords, has been

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far too quickly accelerated over the last two weeks, without thorough

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references to the aftermath. But with there being very little doubt

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that the House of Commons would back air strikes in eye rashes the

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subplot was whether the strikes should extend to Syria. -- in Iraq.

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The Prime Minister said he supported attacks in Syria and promised he

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would act if there was an urgent humanitarian need but he accepted

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others disagreed and promised MPs a separate vote. Labour hasn't ruled

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out supporting action in Syria but Mr Miliband is cautious over the

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lack of legitimate ground force there is, and... When we are not

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talking about being invited in by a democratic state, it would be

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better, I put it no higher than that, to seek a UN resolution. Many

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MPs made the case for action. The elephant in the room remains Syria.

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Eyesle will not be adefeated if it can regroup from its Syrian bases.

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For people to suggest we cannot go to Syria is tying our hands behind

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our backs. There is a clear legal base to attack IS bases in Syria.

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Sooner or later we will have to do It it is dealing with half a

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problem, not a whole problem. After six-and-a-half hours of debate, the

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result was clear. The ayes to the right. 524.

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The noes to the left, 43. Among the noes, the Labour

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frontbenchers, who resigned in protest. So Parliament has consented

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to war. These RAF Tornados could be in action in hours and potentially

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for many years to come. So, the Government says it won't

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extend British military action into Syria without another Commons'

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vote unless there's But other contributors to

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the international operation against IS have been targeting

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its Syrian strongholds. The US, Australia, several European

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countries and five in the So how does Britain fit

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in with the growing coalition? This report from our Diplomatic

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Correspondent, James Robbins. A mission to damage and ultimately

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defeat IS fighters will be difficult and could take years. Why? Partly

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because they've exploited weaknesses in both Syria and Iraq to seize

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large areas. But now the international military response is

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growing more powerful by the day, with Britain only the late toast

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join a global coalition. -- the latest to join.

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Already there have been more than 200 strikes againstism S in Iraq and

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Syria. Britain's coalition involves six Tornados from Cyprus attacking

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IS targets but only in Iraq. The RAF missions will be run from US central

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command in Qatar on orderers co-ordinated with London. France is

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already carrying out strikes in the country with Belgium and the

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Netherlands each pledging six F-16s and Denmark also announced its

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commitment, seven F-16s, seen in action in Libya three-and-a-half

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years ago. Perhaps most important is the active involvement of Arab

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states, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar and the United Arab

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Emirates. Jets from Saudi Arabia and the UAE struck oil refineries

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controlled by IS in eastern Syria earlier this week. It is vitally

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important because oil the extremists sell brings in up to $100 million a

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month on some estimates. It's their largest source of revenue. I don't

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think the military force of any type air strikes, or whatever s enough to

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defeat the find of violent extremism, and the terrorism we see

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that IS displays. It'll take a much more comprehensive strategy,

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involving diplomacy, education, informational efforts and by a very

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large coalition. How can any military success against IS fighters

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be measured? Well, partly on maps, showing areas where they have

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control or powerful influence. Air strikes in both countries have

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forcedism S to scatter and give up some land but retaking Mosul, Iraq's

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second city is seen as a crucial test. If that can be done, some see

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it as the cue for David Cameron to push for British air strikes in

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Syria, too. But there could be a downside to Western military action.

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An EU official warned today more than 3,000 Europeans may be involved

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with jihadists and air strikes increase the risk of retaliation on

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European soil. So, the future of the war on the self-styled Islamic state

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is inpredictable but increasingly, the major military powers in Europe

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believe they have to get involved. Our Political Editor, Nick Robinson,

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is with me here. So a yes vote on a British role in

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Iraq but much uncertainty among MPs Real uncertainty which will go on.

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One thing we now know, since the debate, the Defence Secretary,

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Michael Fallon has told the BBC not to expect immediate shock and awe,

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that phrase we associate with the invasion of Iraq 11 years ago. In

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other words, not a wave of bombing starting now, day after day after

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day. But what MPs really wanted to know - is where will we be, not

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tomorrow, next week, but in months and years to could. Their anxiety,

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some of them, is that the Prime Minister clearly signalled he is in

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favour of tensioning this to Syria. He says people will get another

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vote. He says he will only not come to the House of Commons, first, if

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he has to act instantly to deal with a humanitarian catastrophe but they

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worry that he says there is a moral and legal case. They note that

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Labour's Ed Miliband says he is not opposed in all circumstances, he

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would prefer to go through the United Nations but is ready to

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contemplate action in Syria as well. So we are left tonight uncertain -

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is this just what Ken Clarke called a is imbillionic contribution? Just

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sakes planes afterall -- symbolic. There were three times that number

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in Libya, or is it the beginning of the third Iraq war in a quarter of a

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century? Well on the ground in Iraq,

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and in Syria, thousands of refugees continue to

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flee Islamic State forces. Many have described the beheading

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of captives, the torching of homes and the widespread use

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of rape by IS fighters. In the Iraqi capital,

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Shia leaders are recruiting local people to fight back against

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the Sunni extremists, and say they The Iraqi government, though,

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insists that outside support is Our Chief International

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Correspondent, Lyse Doucet, sent this report about the view from

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Baghdad. Britain is joining an air campaign

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that's already gone on for six weeks. It hasn't stopped the tension

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on the streets of Baghdad. It hasn't stopped the funerals.

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This family mourns for a moon died in the battle against Islamic state

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fighters just south of the capital. Every death brings defiance. Now all

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these women tell me they're ready to fight. So are these men. We get rare

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access to a powerful Shi'ite militia, a brigade which fights in

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Iraq and Syria. This is how their leader has to travel.

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He's now recruiting more fighters. Shi'ite and Sunni, to take on this

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new threat and says Iraq doesn't need help from the West.

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TRANSLATION: America has proven it always comes to us with the face of

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a saviour. It hides in front of the people, the ugly face of an invader.

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What about Britain? TRANSLATION: We see that the British are the

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obedient slaves for America. In Iraq, the militias operate

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separately from the national army and police. That means a lot of

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checkpoints across Baghdad. But it is still not stopping the violence.

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These Iraqis know that between 15 to 20 mortars landed in this area in

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the past week. A massive car bomb exploded at the checkpoint just

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behind us. They have lived with danger for many years and now this

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threat, posed by a vehemently anti-Shi'ite group, calling itself

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Islamic state, just makes their faith even stronger. But their

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fervour is no match, militarily for this new enemy. That's why the

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Government has asked the world to help. Including Britain.

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We need the United Kingdom here, because they have a long history in

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the Iraq -- in Iraq. They understand the region well. Also, they have the

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expertise. British warplanes will bring more power and prestige to the

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coalition. But this war will be won or lost not in the air, but on the

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ground. That is all from Westminster for now. I will be back later in the

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programme assessing public support for British action in Iraq. For now,

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back to the studio. The former Radio One DJ Dave Lee

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Travis has escaped jail, following He was instead given

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a 3 month suspended sentence. Dave Lee Travis was found guilty

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on Tuesday of groping a young researcher at

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the filming of a TV show in 1995. But speaking outside court,

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he claimed the case, which was part of Operation Yewtree investigating

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historical sexual abuse, should Our Correspondent Matt Prodger

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was in court, and his report He just been given a suspended

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sentence for indecently assaulting a woman but as Dave Lee Travis left

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court, he was unrepentant. Whilst I am relieved that I have

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been able to prove that I am not a sexual predator,

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I am mortified and disappointed that I was convicted of one count, and it

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is of little comfort to me that I The judge quoted a statement from

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the victim which said that she had been subjected to an unprovoked and

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terrifying assault, being called a liar and a fantasist had been

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painful. The force he was sentenced, DLT shouted angrily at

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this journalist in the public gallery. In 2012, she said that he

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had groped her as well. I would have preferred it if he had been sent to

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jail. I felt sympathetic for the victim in this case. She had summed

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up the courage to come in and make a very pleasant and intimidating

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experience. The judge said that DLT's offence was not as serious as

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other s under Operation Yewtree, but nevertheless, he said it was a nasty

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assault. After two trials, DLT has been spared prison but the damage to

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his reputation and finances has crippled them. -- crippled him.

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Our top story this evening, MPs have voted of nominally for British air

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strikes against Islamic State in Iraq. -- overwhelmingly.

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And we are here at Gleneagles where Europe's golfers have been fighting

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back in the Ryder Cup. The house fire started by a

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faulty fridge which killed a father of two - a coroner backs

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calls for greater safety measures. And following the FA

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Cup dream, we meet the Romanian Londoners hoping to progress in

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England's oldest cup competition. The UK Independence Party leader

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Nigel Farage has told delegates at their annual conference that

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the party is "parking its tanks" on Labour's lawn and is going after

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they call the "blue collar" vote. Mr Farage also said UKIP would

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reduce income tax for middle earners, and eliminate it completely

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for people on the minimum wage. From Doncaster, our Chief Political

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Correspondent Vicki Young reports. Nigel Farage believes that UKIP is

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shaking the foundations of the Westminster system, but he wants to

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broaden the party's appeal by talking about more than just

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immigration. He think that Labour votes are up for grabs in the North

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of England. This conference is taking place on the doorstep of the

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Labour leader's and caster constituency. Nigel Farage said that

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their constituents work quaking in their boots. Many of our target

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seats will be seats held by opposing sitting Labour MPs. We pose a threat

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not just to the Conservative Party but to the entire British political

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class and I will drink to that. He wants to beef up his economic

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policies. He used to highlight the Abbot abolition of inheritance tax

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but now he's talking about no tax for those on the minimum wage.

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Critics say his numbers do not add up but he says that slashing the

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overseas aid budget will save billions. At a nearby aluminium

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factory, the message seems to be striking a chord. In what should be

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a rock solid Labour heartland, voters say they are looking for an

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alternative. I'm tired of working and working on getting nothing out

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of it. What about the Westminster politicians, do they understand? I

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do not think they understand. I think Labour and the Conservatives

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are just one party, because they sound the same. But Nigel has a bit

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of a roar in his voice. I say we should give him were all. Others

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have tried, and failed, let him have a go. Nigel Farage is known for his

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plain speaking. Today he blamed the abuse of hundreds of children in

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Rotherham on the Labour council's reluctance to speak out across some

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abusers were Asian men. Some people say, Nigel, it is wrong, you should

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not be saying these things, should not be making this political, this

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is simply a cultural problem. I'm sorry, but if this is not political,

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then what is ?! There is a raw energy about this party, not slick

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or polished. Nigel Farage knows that that is part of the attraction and

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soon they are hoping for a big breakthrough, aiming for their first

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elected MP. Today, Nigel Farage and his team

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contradicted each other over whether to bomb Iraq. Their opponents pixels

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in their tax plans, but they are still enjoying the limelight. --

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picked holes. Golf now,

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and the first day of the Ryder Cup between Europe and the United States

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is coming to a close at Gleneagles. Europe went into the competition

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as favourites to retain the cup they won in dramatic fashion

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in Medinah 2 years ago. Today it was the United States who

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made the stronger start - but Europe have had the better of the afternoon

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session, as Andy Swiss reports. A perfect morning was in for the

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loudest of wake ups. Thousands of fans at 7:00am. It could only be the

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Ryder Cup. The decibel is soon doubled. Justin Rose and Bubba

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Watson work working the crowd into a frenzy as the players got underway.

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Watson's opener seemed to set the tone. The hosts settles the quicker,

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Sergio Garcia with an early contender for shot of the day.

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Fantastic! Justin Rose soon secured Europe's first point. So far, so

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good. But then they stumbled. In Ian Poulter's case, they sank. When Phil

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Mickelson followed up his pre-match jibes with victory over Rory

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McIlroy, it was advantage USA. Europe head into the afternoon

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matches already with some work to do. Trailing by one point after such

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high hopes. The fans will now be hoping that they can turn things

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around. And slowly, they did, with victory for Lee Westwood and Jamie

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Donaldson, and Justin Rose continued to blossom. Beautiful. But on the

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course, Dubuisson was weaving his magic. A long way to go, but the

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Ryder Cup's capacity to captivate is already there. And can tell you that

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in the last few minutes, Europe of won and drawn the last few matches.

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The score, Europe five and the USA three. It has been a predictably

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enthralling day. Now more on our main story,

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the vote backing British air strikes Welcome back to Westminster, where

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MPs have voted in favour of British During the debate,

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many MPs spoke of their revulsion And some urged more must be done to

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stop the radicalisation It's thought about 500 Britons have

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travelled to Iraq and Syria, from communities across the UK -

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including from Cardiff, where our correspondent Sian Lloyd has spent

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the day gauging public opinion. The debate about air strikes got

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underway while people in this cafe were having breakfast. The question

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is, to the public really have an appetite for action? This is not a

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quick fix. I think we are going to end up in Syria as well. You cannot

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just go into one because they are in both countries. I'm not sure I'd

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agree with that cos it can lead us into something bigger. Public

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support for air strikes has grown over the last six weeks according to

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a poll from YouGov. 57% of the public are in favour. Patrons of

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this British Legion social club voiced their opinions. The public

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are not keen for troops to go over there. But it is my personal opinion

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that they will not be defeated by air strikes. As a Muslim, I am

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ashamed by this mayhem and killing in the name of Islam. It is very

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sad. Among members of the Muslim community, there was criticism of

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Islamic State and a note of caution. We should have to negotiate with

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them, we should sit down and negotiate. Because we will create

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thousands of ISIS. What they are doing is not good, so we want people

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to be involved, Britain to be involved. These students beginning

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their first week at university have been following developments closely.

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I fear that with a -- we are the generation which grew up with the

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Iraq war and a fear that another generation will be witness to

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another conflict here. The problem with air strikes is that if they are

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not accurate, there is a great risk of civilian deaths. Many members of

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the public have been engaging with this debate. But there is a concern

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felt by some of what air strikes could lead to.

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Well RAF planes are on standby in Cyprus and our defence correspondent

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Jonathan, what's the likely timetable for British action?

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What role will Britain play? Well, they are ready to go. They

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have their weapons here. But it may not be imminent. Remember, they have

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to be tasked by US Central command, which is coordinating these strikes.

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It is worth remembering that the US has been launching strikes for more

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than a month, so Britain is late to the game. Britain is also making a

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modest contribution to this effort, on a par with countries like the

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Netherlands and France. It was a six-day pause between the first time

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the French launched strikes and the second time. This will not be a high

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tempo operation you can expect British warplanes to be involved in

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strikes with in the next 48 hours. And that is just about it from us

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here at Westminster. It's been a mainly cloudy day here

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at Westminster, Helen Willetts is here with

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the weekend weather. The fly in the ointment is dense,

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patchy fog across the southern part of the UK tonight. For many, as you

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saw, warm and dry weather. We still have some showers and blustery wind

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in the north of Scotland. But by the nature of it being patchy, it is

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quite dangerous. In the north, temperatures in the towns and cities

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are down but actually, for some parts in rural areas like North

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Wales, we could have a touch of frost. Quite a chilly night. The

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main concern for travel is the fog. The cos it is patchy, that makes it

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more dangerous for travellers. The cos it is patchy, that makes it more

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dangerous for travellers. They could well be some disruption on the road.

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So that is how we start in the south of England. A little slow. A few

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showers around, given that we have a weak weather front. Hopefully by the

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afternoon, the mist and low cloud will have lifted. Hopefully more

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sunshine as we have seen today in northern England and Northern

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Ireland, but more cloud coming into the North West of Scotland and

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Northern Ireland later. At the moment, looking fine and dry. For

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most of the day, the same. More cloud over Saturday night in the

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North. More rain on that front, for a time. But the small risk of rain

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at Gleneagles. Again, there is a problem with fog in the South,

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taking its time to clear. The bridge is quite respectable for this time

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of year. And that is the weather. That's all from the team here

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at Westminster.

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