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Good evening. This is BBC Newsline with Donna Traynor and Noel

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Thompson. The headlines this Wednesday evening: An action plan

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to try to cut emergency waiting times - Will it make any

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difference? There were people beside me he was saying this is a

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mess. A wheeze question the health minister.

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We question the Health Minister Edwin Poots who's here in the

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studio. Our business editor will assess the changes in the Budget.

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Only one Irish League football club wins in a thrilling night of action.

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And we've been a bit unlucky with the sunshine lately, but that's

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about to change. In the face of mounting criticism

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of the state of the Health service, the Minister Edwin Poots is setting

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new targets for dealing with patients in Accident and Emergency.

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He wants 95 percent of patients to be admitted or discharged within

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four hours. And he has set up what he calls an Action Group to take a

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longer term view on solving the problems in the Service. The moves

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follow the death of an elderly man who spent 24 hours on a trolley

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waiting for a bed in the Royal Victoria Hospital in Belfast. In a

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moment we'll hear from Edwin Poots himself, first here's our health

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correspondent. Chester three of the hundreds of

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people who contacted BBC Newsline to tell us about their experiences.

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This woman's 80-year-old mother spent a night on a trolley, she had

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a fractured hip. Something as basic as providing a toilette prove

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impossible for nurses, often too busy to talk. Eventually, she was

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brought into a storeroom, I waited approximately 45 minutes, I

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couldn't understand what was happening, I went to look further,

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I couldn't find her. Another patient told me she was in the

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storeroom, she was still on the bed pan, I have to go and ask a nurse

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to remove the bedpan. The Health Minister announces plans, in order

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to reduce the waiting times Edwin Poots said that nurses would be

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allowed to discharge patients, they would be more frequent rounds of

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the ward, minor injuries treated on site, and maximising the amount of

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day care procedures. Some nurses said they had heard it all before,

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but the minister showed he was listening, and confronting why so

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many staff are turning to the media. We think the question is for

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employers. Why do staff feel the need to go to the media? They do

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not believe that they are being listened to, and that people are

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taking action when they have raised concerns, and they feel they have

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no choice. A test of whether the plan is working is whether fewer

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people have experiences like John, his father has Alzheimer's, he says

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nurses had no time to listen. said she was giving him penicillin,

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I said, if you look at the notes, you will find he is allergic to

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penicillin, and is highly intolerant to other medicines.

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Should anyone be held accountable? In the last four years, a dozen

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chief executives have been sacked for failing to meet targets. It is

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a time to start cracking the whip, people are paid enormous amounts of

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money for doing this job, and not beating targets. My focus is

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entirely on patients. Others can take on the role of holding people

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to account, my entire focus is the patient. For the public, some

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problems are easily solved, this man's mother weighted how was just

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to receive stitches. -- this man's mother waited for hours. They could

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be much more efficient. Sol in this crisis is the biggest challenge yet

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for the health minister. The Health Minister Edwin Poots is

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with me now. As a they can this challenge -- has

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it taken this tragedy to get your head out the sand? Absolutely not.

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I was dedicated to this long before any of this. What I was hearing was

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not acceptable, the waiting times were too long. Why was it allowed

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to become so bad? A mess, as one patient told us. It is quite

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apparent that the problem does not solely rest in accident and

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emergency, it is the whole hospital system. A lot of people have had to

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stay on trolleys, as opposed to moving towards. That has led to

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large build up so people. You close the one major A&E centre? -- you

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closed. What would have made the difference was spreading our jam or

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thinly across these hospitals, we were spread across two sides.

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about accountability? He was responsible for it? It is the chief

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executive of the trust, he is responsible. He is accountable to

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me and the public. The standards that we are receiving are not

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acceptable. We expect that to be improved. We have heard about heads

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rolling, will it happen here? have set them some very significant

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targets. If they felt to be met, it is an issue that will be addressed.

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You have set these targets, but you have given no more resources. We

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have heard about �80 million of cuts, which will maybe reduce the

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number of nurses, it will affect operations, community care, you're

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asking the possible? We have a very tight budget. That is the Budget we

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have. That does not mean make-up front line services. In Antrim

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Hospital, we have financed, and replaced, the recruitment of 40

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additional nurses. There is a new unit being built. We are doing

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things. A target of 95% of patients being discharged in the first 24

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hours, by when? We would want to see that in fermented in the next

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the number of months. Too long, people will say. I want to see that

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move upwards. If it hasn't happened, we resigned -- world you resign?

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are putting these measures in place. Will you resign? What is important

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is how why will respond to these difficulties. I'm very clearly

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putting a planning to place, and I want to do with things. Let's watch

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this space. Thank you. The Chancellor George Osborne has

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said thousands of people in Northern Ireland should find

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themselves better off as a result of today's budget. Although some

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pensioners could eventually find themselves worse off. Let's have a

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look at some of the main points. The amount people can earn tax free

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is increasing, it's currently around �8,000 but will go up more

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than �9,000. The Chancellor says it should give people as much as an

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should give people as much as an extra �220 a year. People over 65

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currently get a bigger tax free allowance but that will be frozen

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and so its value will be eroded by inflation. Households where someone

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earns over �42,000 were going to lose their child benefit. That's

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been changed. It will now only affect people earning over �50,000.

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And only those earning �60,000 will lose it all. Smokers will be hit,

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with a packet of 20 cigarettes going up by 37 pence. There will

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also be a 3p rise in the price of a pint. There's no respite for

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motorists. The Chancellor is sticking with plans to increase

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fuel duty later this year. That's dismayed many people who say high

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fuel costs are one of the biggest drags on our economy. Here's our

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drags on our economy. Here's our business correspondent.

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Spiralling fuel prices are having a dramatic effect on this haulage

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company. It uses 80 million litres of diesel annually. It cost them an

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extra �180,000 a year. A fuel prices are at their record high,

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and while there was no respite, there was huge disappointment at

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the 3p a litre rise in August. are depilated, very upset. --

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deflated. Some hauliers will say they can't go one. After Matt Lee,

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people may lose their jobs because of this. The cost to the consumer

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will go up. Boris start, it means higher food prices. -- for a start,

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it means higher food prices. This woman working at Ulster Hospital

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and �27,000 here, she will pay around �300 less a year, though she

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says, in real terms, she would be any better off. I'll be paying an

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additional six under �80 in pension contributions. If I have a huge

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amount of fuel costs. Heating and to have gone up, and the dredger

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pounds when make any difference. -- �300. I won't be any better off.

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Smokers will have to pay more. The increase will come into effect at

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six o'clock. It won't stop me at all. I think it's ridiculous.

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increase is great from my perspective, it will help me cut

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back. That is a really big hike. The fact that the Chancellor will

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allow many middle-class families to keep all of their child benefit was

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welcomed. I think child benefit should be available to as many

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people as possible. People deserve a bit to help of their children.

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The Budget has left the one big unanswered question for Northern

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Ireland, and that is the fate of the pay of two other 1,000 public

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sector workers. The Chancellor, ultimately wants to see pay bills

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going down, what he didn't was it when, or by how much. -- didn't

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spell out. Our business and economics editor

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Jim Fitzpatrick joins me now. Jim did this budget live up to what we

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expected? The expectations were on the top rate of tax. Let's look at

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the highest rates, it's coming down to 45p next year. How many people

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will that affect in Northern Ireland? The answer is around 4,000.

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That is not a huge impact. What about the match and tax? They

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avoided that. -- what about mansion tax? They have to pay another tax

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anyway. What is the impact? thing that was aborted was personal

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allowances. They are effectively the rate you pay income tax.

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Because they are raising it it will take some people out of the system

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altogether. They will be 600,000 people who will see that affect.

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has been a speculation about public service work sectors? Some

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departments are concerned. The differential, the premium you get

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in the public sector is 27%, that figure comes from the Department of

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Finance. The finance minister, Sammy Wilson, is concerned about

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this. He has reasons why they are paying more, if the principle is

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established by reducing pay, it would have a big impact. Having

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said that, they found a more Helpful to the film industry,

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passenger devolution helping foreign investment, a reduction in

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corporation tax which will close the gap Parlour between Northern

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Ireland and the Irish Republic and broadband for Belfast. And the fact

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that some people who Warren Lowing comes are being lifted out of tax

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and will pay no tax -- who what are Honour low-income. There are lot of

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things that concern me in this Budget. -- who are on the low

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income. It has been found people at the bottom will lose the most.

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People on pensions are squeezed so forget about the squeezed middle,

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You can check out the detail with News Online. Still to come... We

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look at the planned changes to its capacity benefit. And Banbridge

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Officials from Linfield and Derry City football clubs have been

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giving their reaction to the trouble after last night's Setanta

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Cup game. Buses carrying Linfield supporters were attacked as were

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houses close to the stadium. One man was arrested. In a statement

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Linfield say they were unhappy with "aggressive and provocative

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behaviour" by Derry City stewards and some local people. But one of

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Derry City's directors says he feared for his life as he ran from

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They knocked down part of the fence, then a mob started to attack me --

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attack me. The stewards rugby- They said let's kill him! To be

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honest, it was really scary. People who have been deemed too ill to

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work may be forced to look for a job under benefit changes. The

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government is moving people from the old incapacity benefit to was

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appalled -- employment support allowance. We have the highest

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number in the UK and incapacity benefit and the government digs

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many of them can find some form of work. Our political correspondent

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has the second in our series on reworking welfare. This is Bill, he

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works trying to help people get jobs. He is fully behind changes to

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welfare that will see thousands taken off incapacity benefit. That

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is because of the new test which focuses on what work you can do

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rather than what you cannot. This is not about saying you're all

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faking, this is saying there are people who were genuinely unwell

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and need support, there are those who want to get back to work but

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cannot because they are tied up in the system. By breaking down a

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system and giving people a step-by- step approach without making it

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economically hard for them, we can make their lives different. It in

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the past you had to go and see what was known as the big doctor to get

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benefit, now it is being phased out and you go to centres like this. If

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you pass the test you can collect �100 a week on employment support

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allowance. This is how it works... The most ill people will get the

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allowance automatically, others are sent to a health care professional,

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not necessarily a doctor. They then send a report to the Social

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Security Agency for a decision. Some people are moved to a work

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support group on benefit of around �94 a week. Others lose their

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incapacity benefit. We think around 30% of those who move from capacity

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benefit will either fell at test or move on -- and have to move on to

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jobseeker's allowance, or alternatively, they may drop out of

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the benefits system altogether if they have a partner who earns over

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a certain amount, or if they do. You need 15 points to keep your

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benefits but you can appeal. We are aware of a case of a lone parent

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with one child, the woman has learning difficulties. She was

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given no points at her assessment but and 36 in her appeal. The whole

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process took four a month and in the meantime she was left on a

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basic benefit of �67 a week. Despite such problems one welfare

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reformer says it is the only option. I take the view that with the

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economy in such dire straits we cannot afford to allow so many

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people to be signed off into different areas and then have the

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belief the highest they can aspire to is a workless life. I think many

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people should aspire to more the mat. I think a lot of people do.

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critics. How long-term unemployment and ill-health is a legacy of the

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Troubles and say job opportunities are not there for those who want to

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work. Particularly in this recession, if you have people

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applying for jobs and you have somebody who has been on long-term

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incapacity benefit through no fault of their own, and you have a string

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of graduates coming in, you can answer that question for me. Who

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are you going to employ? It is not known how many people on incapacity

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benefit have been helped into work as those figures are not recorded.

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But the Department of Employment and learning says around 1500

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people have claimed a return to work credit in the past year.

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In the final part of her series tomorrow night Martina will be

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looking at universal credit - it's going to replace all the current

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benefits. And the changes to benefits have prompted a lot of

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discussion on our Facebook page today. You can join the

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In last night's Setanta Cup quarter-finals, League of Ireland

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sides won three of the four ties, leaving Crusaders as the only Irish

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Premiership club in the last four after their 2-0 win over Bohemians.

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But the tie of the night was at Brandywell where Derry emerged as

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victors. With the game poised our one all from the first leg,

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Linfield took the lead. But Derry were level in the second half. They

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scored two more to clinch the tie. There was a result which left the

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Linfield manager furious with the match officials. But there were no

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complaints from Derry as they In Belfast, Sean Ward scored the

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best goal of the night to get Tottenham back into their tie

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against Sligo. But just as the glens were getting into their

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stride, this happened... A floodlight failure and a ten-minute

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delay. When the lights came back on a penalty was conceded, and a tie.

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The it was not the ideal way of taking the players into the

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changing room and cooling down, then having to come out again

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midway through the second half. But Two goals from Barry Johnson and

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Joe Gormley got them back on level terms. They forced the game into

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extra time and then a penalty shoot-out but could only convert

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one spot kick. There was no pressure on us. We had to keep

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clean sheets. It went to penalties and it is a lottery from there. Our

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players were dead on their feet but I have nothing but admiration for

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them. Earlier this week we saw Methodist College win at the Rugby

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Schools Cup. Tonight we bring you the hockey schools champions after

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war was probably the most thrilling final of them all. Banbridge

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Academy have cemented their reputation as one of the best

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Schools' Hockey teams in Ireland after a thrilling 3-2 extra-time

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victory over Friends' School from Lisburn in this year's Burney Cup

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final. Denise Watson reports. The Academy scored twice in the first

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six minutes. A short corner conversion made it 2-0. The first

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goal for friends came courtesy -- the first goal for Friends' School

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came up after 25 minutes. The final touch, then they were well and

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truly back in the final contest. Extra-time was necessary. Banbridge

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thought they had got victory but there was more drama to come. In

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the dying moments Friends' School So Banbridge Academy, Burney Cup

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winners again but friend -- Friends' School pushed them all

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away. Ireland and Munster hooker Jerry Flannery has retired from

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professional rugby. He had struggled with injuries for the

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last two seasons. Flannery won a total of 41 caps for Ireland.

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Armagh claim that their players, including Ciaran McKeever here,

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suffered ''racist and personal abuse'' during Sunday's league

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defeat to Laois. And Graham McDowell was a member of the Lake

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Nona team which has won the Tavistock Cup. McDowell carded a

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three-under 69 on the final day of the annual exhibition tournament in

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Florida. And finally good luck to Ireland's cricketers - they face

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Canada in a Twenty20 World cup qualifier early tomorrow morning

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our time. We'll have that action on Good luck to them. Now the weather.

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I have been inside all day, but I think it has been nice. It has been

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dry. Let's hope it continues. has been fine. We have been unlucky

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with the sunshine, the cloud has rolled in each day to spoil things.

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That is what happened again today. The cloud went back northwards

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after a bright start. Our fortunes are about to change. We have fairly

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clear skies, so we are hoping to see those engine during the night.

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Still a fair amount of cloud around through the evening. It is dry, the

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winds are easing down. Through the night the clouds starts to shrink

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away towards the north, clearing skies but that means it will also

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be a cold at night. Temperatures inland, Three Degrees, but close to

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freezing in some rural spots. Chances are we will see patchy

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Frost with the odd patch of mist, or fog as well. If they form they

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will probably go quite quickly tomorrow. A dry, fine day coming up.

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A brighter day certainly with more sunshine around. Despite a chilly

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start it will probably be the skies and sunshine. A few differences

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around tomorrow. If you are on the County Down coastline you will

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probably have an onshore south- easterly breeze. So it could feel

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quite cool. The best is inland, particularly towards the west and

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north-west. Through tomorrow night -- a fine day, but cloudy. Even on

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Friday there will be some showers around but they will not linger

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into the weekend, they should clear to leave us with a lot of dry

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