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soon. That is all from the BBC News at Six, goodbye from me. On BBC One

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we now Good evening, on BBC Newsline. Peter

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Robinson threatens to resign as First Minister in the row over On

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the Runs. If Ian Paisley and I had been round

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the table and told this is what the Government was doing to do, we

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wouldn't have entered into Government. We will have reaction

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from Stormont, also from the common, we will have more on the secret

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letter, sent to paramilitary suspects by Government officials. We

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will hear from the Justice Minister who said he is demanding answers

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from the Secretary of State. Also on the programme.

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An apology to the families of 11 vulnerable adults at care home,

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after an investigation confirms allegations of abuse.

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The First Minister Peter Robinson has threatened to resign if there is

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no judicial inquiry into the secret letters, sent to more than 180

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paramilitary suspects which contained an assurance they would

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not be prosecuted. The DUP leader said he could not

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remain in a power-sharing Government, being kept in the dark

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on such an important matter. The revelation about the On the Run

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letters came about yesterday, with the collapse of the trial of John

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Downey. A County Donegal man charged with the murders of soldiers during

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the Hyde Park bombling in London, by the IRA, in 1982. -- bombing. The

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judge accepted the case could not go ahead because seven years ago John

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Downey had received alert, containing that assurance.

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-- a letter. Our political editor is with me. You have been speaking to

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the First Minister Peter Robinson, he has threatened to resigned. He

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was physically angry today Yes, he expressed outrage in a written

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statement yesterday after the John Downey case judgment was published.

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Today, he made it clear that he still continued to feel that sense

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of anger, didn't use the word resign, but he said that his

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position was basically not tenable, if he was kept in the dark about

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justice matters of such an important kind. He said that a hole had been

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blown in the middle of the Haass process, this is what he said he

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felt had to happen. Indicated that I am not prepared to

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be kept in the dark by Her Majesty's Government in London, about matters

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which are relevant to Northern Ireland. That means I want a full

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judicial inquiry, into all of these matters, so that we can see who

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knew, when they knew, and what they knew. Those are vital questions to

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be asked, and answered. I want to know who the 187 people are that

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received these letter, if indeed it is only 187 people, because I

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wouldn't believe anything I hear any longer. But I want to know who they

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are, what crimes they were believed to have committed, because don't

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forget justice isn't just about whether the police that the moment

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in time have sufficient evidence to make a prosecution stick, because as

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time goes on, forensics may change, new evidence may come in, where a

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prosecution could take place. So it is absolutely vital that nobody is

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allowed though they can get away with it. That sip why I want all of

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the letters resinned. So you call for them to be rescind and a full

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judicial inquiry into this matter, your deputy has said that the very

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existence of devolution is at threat here, if you don't get what you

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want, what are your options? I am going to get it. I am not prepared

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to be the head of a government that is kept in the dark in this way, I

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want there to be full disclosure, I want the people to know what has

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gone on, let me be very clear, if Ian Paisley and I had been told this

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is what the Government was going to do, we wouldn't have entered into

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Government. That would not have been an acceptable basis for us to enter

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into Government with Sinn Fein. Martin McGuinness took to social

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media to respond to that. Sinn Fein tried to keep things cool Yes,

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Martin McGuinness and Peter Robinson share a castle behind us, but this

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being the modern age of social media Martin McGuinness took to Twitter to

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tell Peter Robinson to calm down, the DUP not going to listen to that,

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but that has been the message from Sinn Fein, that everybody they say

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knew who was involved in the peace process, that this issue had to be

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dealt W here is Alex maxi. It is foolish to make this type of

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statement under these circumstance, we have had very very severe

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disorder on the street, all of last year, but really any talk about

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resignation really misses the point, what we have to do is party, and

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that includes Peter Robinson's party, we need to get back to

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implementing the Haass proposals. The question has been doing the

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rounds, Mark, what did the unionist and particular the DUP know about

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this On the Run process? I raised with Peter Robinson a quote from a

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book by Jonathan Powell who was Tony Blair's Chief of Staff which implied

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that the DUP knew that concessions were being made in relation to On

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the Runs but were happy as long as it was generally felt that this was

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done on David Trimbleable's watch. Peter Robinson said this was wrong,

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said that the document that was referred to didn't include anything

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about On the Run, there are those who harbour doubts, including gym

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alster from the T UV and the former vice-chair of the Policing Board

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Dennis Bradley. I am a bit surprised because it, was

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a briefing to the Policing Board, if you real the consultative group, it

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was referred to there, so it is in the public domain that the level and

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it is reasonably well described in how it should be and shouldn't be

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dealt with. I hear what they say but I am surprised. If they didn't,

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given they were in close negotiations, with the Government,

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then it seems a failure on their part to fully interrogate the issues

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that lay at the heart of the negotiation to get both Sinn Fein

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and DUP in the Government, maybe it was a bit of we don't want to know

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because we are very anxious as the DUP was, to get into Government with

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Sinn Fein, and now it is all coming home to roost. We will talk more

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later in the programme. To the Commons next, where some MPs voiced

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their great anger at the collapse of the John Downey care, and also the

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revelation about those secret letters, to On the Run paramilitary

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suspects. Our political reporter Stephen Walker listened to what was

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at times a heated debate. It was cones dental today was Northern

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Ireland Question Time in the House, and naturally many local MPs wanted

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to talk about the John Downey case. This has very very serious

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implications for devolution. That anger was shared across the bench,

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We need to assure people we haven't ended the dirty war to end up with a

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dirty peace. Is that not even more imperative, after yesterday's

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revelations? They prove that some of us were right when we warned the

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right honourable member that they were blighting the peace process

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with a penchant for side deal, sub deal, shabby deals and secret deals.

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The issue was raised during Prime Minister's Question Time We should

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be clear the man should never have received the letter that he

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received. It was a dreadful mistake, and a mistake that we now need to

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have a rapid factual review to make sure this cannot happen good

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afternoon. Whatever happens we have to stick to the principle we are a

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country and a government, under the rule of law.

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The Attorney General confirmed 38 people received letters during this

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current Conservative liberal administration.

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Many said the affair raised dons -- dozens of questions Can I Miguel

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Jiminez to disabuse members... Accepted by them as opposed to this

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deal, which was shabbily driven through behind the backs of even the

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representatives in this Parliament. Others had concerns about what the

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knock on effect of the John Downey case might be. Given these awful

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events the Government thinks long and hard about the perception

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apparent if we are giving an amnesty to one group while but suring other,

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like potentially the soldiers involved in the Bloody Sunday

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incident. So can my right honourable friend confirm that reconciliation

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and justice and forgiveness applies to both sides, not one. It is clear

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that the John Downey case has ramifications well beyond the

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confines of Parliament. It throws up a series of political and legal

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questions, one MP said to me tonight, they also think it changes

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the way the past will be debated in Northern Ireland.

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And we will return to Donna at Stormont Castle later. The issue of

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On the Runs has been the subject of political negotiations for more than

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a decade. Mark Simpson has been looking back at what went on in

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public, and in private. Yes, 71.12%. Less than two months

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after the yes vote in 1998, private enegotiations began about the On the

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Runs. The issue was raised during long

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negotiations at Hillsborough Castle and western park. By 2001, Sinn Fein

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and the Government had agreed a private process, in which Sinn Fein

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provided some names, and the authorities checked out whether or

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not they were on a wanted list. The court judgment in the John

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Downey case says round this time Sinn Fein's Gerry Adams told the

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Government he wanted an invisible process for dealing with OTRs but

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Shepped the Government had no alternative to legislate on the

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issue. So in 2005, the then Secretary of State Peter Hain

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published draft legislation, but the bill was later withdrawn. So no over

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all deal but in the wake of the St Andrew's talks in 2006 Tony Blair

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wrote a private letter to Gerry Adams and assured him "Before I

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leave office I am committed to finding a scheme that will resolve

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all the remaining cases." And so in February 2007, the police began a

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review of all the On the Run cases, it was codenamed Operation Rapid.

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In May Stormont returned and brought the DUP and Sinn Fein together at

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the head of a new power-sharing executive. Two months later a letter

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was sent to Sinn Fein negotiator Gerry Kelly about the case of John

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Downey. It said John Downey was not wanted by the police.

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He thought he was then three to go where he pleased but last year he

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was arrested at Gatwick Airport, while en route to Greece. But when

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the private letter was produced the case against him collapsed and it

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turned out that 186 others received similar letters.

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The Secretary of State explained more today in the House of Commons.

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These letters set out in fact eventual way whether individuals

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were believed to be wanted by the police in Northern Ireland, or

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elsewhere in the UK. The current government looked at the scheme in

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2012, and decided future inquiries should be sent to the devolved

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administration in line with the Emmanuel Adebayor minute straights

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of police and justice. It has been controversial for almost two

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decades, in public and private. Now it is threatening the very future of

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Stormont. -- the administration. So what has

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been the reaction from victims? Mervyn Jess gauges reaction from

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Republican and loyalist communities. What is left of Crumlin Road

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courthouse in Belfast. It was here throughout the years of conflict

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that many terrorist suspects were brought before a judge, convicted

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and sentenced. For the families of victims who haven't had their day in

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court, news of the OTRs letters of assurance, stating they won't be

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prosecuted has come as a heavy blow I have spoken to a number of people

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who have said hang on a minute, autumn these different organisations

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and agencies appear to have been involved in this. Who can we trust

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now to tell us the truth? The Government of the day in 2006-2007

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entered into what can only be described as a grubby secretive deal

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with terrorist, and as far as our widows in Northern Ireland are

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concerned, that is our RUC widow, they are in a state of despair and

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disbelief. Republicans say the OTRs at issue

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number less than 200, which they stress is minuscule, compared to the

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25 to 30,000 IRA prisoners who went through the jails. It was flagged up

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to the British, way back in 1998, that some sort of a process would

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have to be put in place to deal with the people who are, the OTRs, the

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people who are on the run for one reason or another, and the process

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that was agreed, they are calling it a secret deal now, but to be honest

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with you, you know, most of the people in our community would have

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been knowledgeable about it. The PUP say they didn't take part in the

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discussionser Shea say it is further evidence of Republicans getting

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leniency while loyalists are targeted It unjust people on the run

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are allowed to remain free and people who have served life

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sentences and been taken back, loyalist have been taken back to

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prison do another sentence after having served a life sentence. Many

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families are feeling let down, there is a lack of justice, of

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acknowledgement, going forward and the whole question of dealing with

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the past as a question has yet to be answered. The scales of justice no

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longer swinal at crumb lip road, even if they did there are some

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suspects who would never be before a court. Earlier, the secretary of

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state said that the case of the On the Runs has been evolved here. It

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does not mean me. She said that and appear to be talking about the

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police and Public prosecution service. She did and make that on

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her watch, these letters were issued. Yesterday it was presented

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as if it was something in the past on the Labour government, but to

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date it was a friend. Do you think to reasonably as have been

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misleading? I am not saying that, but she has not told the ball truth.

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You have never seen one of these letters? I have not. The first I

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knew anything of it was after the court decision last week. And you

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have never received any of these requests? I have had nothing to do

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with it. It has been an issue created by being Labour government

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and continued by the Conservatives. People will be asking why does the

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justice minister not know about this? You must be asking yourself

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the same question. There are things that the justice minister don't

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know, but it is disingenuous for the NAA will to talk about development

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and then we are not informed. What is your solution to this? What we

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should have done was happy and open and transparent and honest process

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where people saw what was happening. We had that sort of example when we

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have the reduction in sentences, but they were still guilty and out on

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licence. You certainly got no transparency here. Do you believe

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that your colleagues in the executive knew about it? I can only

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go on what Peter Robinson said. It certainly did not pass the

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Department of Justice. Do you think these letters should be this ended?

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We need to be careful about talking about rescinding things. There are a

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lot of legal issues, but the first thing would need to get some truth.

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Do you disagree with the scheme? I took opposition to it when it was

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first suggested. The exact length of time people should have been in jail

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is an issue, but they should not have been an amnesty. If these

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letters stopped a prosecution taking place, this is something is wrong.

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How big is the crisis? We need to establish some truth first. People

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should not be threatening to resign, but the government needs to stand

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their ground. Vincent Kearney, our home affairs correspondent joins us

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now. Bps and I have been blamed for this catastrophic mistake. -- bps

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NI. They insisted the letter sent to John Downey said that he was not

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wanted by any police force in the UK. Their remit was to do two

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things. It has been said that the PS and I did not want to arrest John

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Downey, but they did not go as far as saying he was not wanted by any

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other police force. There is some confusion around the contents of the

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letter. The first minister says he wants the case looked up and the

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letters rescinded. What is the chance of that happening? The Lord

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justice said that extraordinary events would have two happening for

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John Downey's case to be reactivated. I spoke to a source

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yesterday and he said as far as he was concerned, the proceedings

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against John Downey are dead in the water. He said he has never known of

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the case thrown out in this way to be reactivated. In terms of the

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others, we don't know the terms of the letters they receive, but if

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they are similar, they should be treated the same way and not

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prosecuted. The families of the families of 11 fallible adults have

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received an apology from the Western Health Trust after allegations of

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abuse were confirmed. Ralph's Place is home to 16 men and women. Some

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enjoyed horrendous physical and verbal abuse. Some members of staff

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have been suspended. The men and women at the centre of

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these allegations have severe learning difficulties and for most

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of their adult life they have been in the care of the Western Health

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Trust. In 2010, these purpose-built bungalows became their new home. The

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idea behind the scheme was to give them greater independence and to

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remove them from institutionalised care. But it was within their home

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some were physically and verbally abused. A total of 45 allegations

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were made covering the period from 2010 up until 2012. Of those 22

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allegations were substantiated, involving several members of staff.

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Additional issues of concern were noted. In 2011, inspectors found

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that staff had not completed courses in looking after vulnerable adults.

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Also, it has been found that: the BBC has been contacted by a

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whistle-blower who raised a number of disturbing details about the

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level of alleged abuse, including allegations of physical and verbal

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abuse and the humiliation of several vulnerable adults. They said they

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had witnessed unbelievable abuse of the most honourable members of our

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society who are in our care in the trust. They were afraid to produce

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the evidence that would have shown the abuse happened as they would

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lose their jobs. We have met with the families to apologise for any

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distress and her that has been caused. Police investigation into

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the allegations claim their was no evidence of wilful neglect. The

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Public prosecution service directed there should not be any

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prosecutions. People who work in the field of learning disabilities and

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work with runnable adults, if they see it happening, come forward. 11

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members of staff, including management, remain suspended.

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According to the health trust, a disciplinary process is underway. An

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Omagh councillor says they are stand following the death of a woman that

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the police are treating as murder. It follows an incident at a house in

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the town on Sunday. Mairead McCallion was from Omar and

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was taken to hospital with head injuries on Sunday. She died the

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following day. This property in the town has been the focus of the

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police investigation. Yesterday it was confirmed that a murder enquiry

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was underway. One local councillor said Mairead McCallion's death had

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come as a shock. I have the opportunity of visiting her family.

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They are stand this has happened and the circumstances of her death add

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further to their distress. They grieving with great dignity and

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there in immediate concern is getting the remains back so they can

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proceed with the funeral arrangements. The police have not

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released details about what happened here. They have asked anyone with

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information to contact the incident room at Omagh police nation.

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Back to our main story and Peter Robinson's but to step down as first

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minister if there is not a judicial enquiry into the scandal surrounding

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the On the Runs. Our political editor is still with me. He is

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looking for a judicial enquiry into these On the Runs letters. What is

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the likelihood? It is a big ask. Since the bloody Sunday enquiry, it

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has been said that there should be no more long, costly enquiries.

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Peter Robinson has something that campaigners didn't have before and

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that is the ability to Paul devolution down. Perhaps the

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government will have two go some way to beating his demands. We will have

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an update on the situation on our programme at 10:25pm this evening.

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There is also more information online. That to the studio.

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-- back to the studio. Time now for the weather.

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We have this area of low pressure ringing with it stronger winds. The

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rain will not be with us that long. It will move across all places but

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clear away quite quickly do the night. Temperatures down to two or

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three degrees, but in the countryside it could be colder. The

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rain will leave behind a scattering of showers. In between, plenty of

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dry weather. Many of us will get up to good spells of sunshine. You may

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manage to avoid the showers altogether, but to be prepared.

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Temperatures typically seven or eight degrees, but in the sunshine

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and away from the winds we could see 910 degrees. Little changes as we go

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into the evening. -- nine or 10 degrees. When Terry Butcher 's fall

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overnight -- when temperatures fall overnight, there could be some

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frost. Friday will be quite chilly with scattered showers. Similar for

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Saturday, which will be the best day of the weekend, but if you are

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planning on Sunday to do anything, do it chewing the first part of the

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day as low pressure will bring unsettled weather.

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That if it for now. Goodbye. -- that is it

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