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The Ardoyne parade passes peacefully, but what next

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We'll also hear from two clergy men involved

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Also tonight The man behind the Bushmills Dunes golf

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resort dies, but his family pledge the course will still be built.

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Thousands turn out to watch the annual sham fight in Scarva.

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The growing number of adults who are making a splash and learning to swim

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Sport It's been a disappointing start to the week but there is some

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I'll have all the details later in the programme.

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Hello and welcome to the programme. Resident groups in the Ardoyne area

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of North Belfast say their attitude to Orange Order parades in the area

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hasn't changed, in spite of the peaceful Twelfth of July marches.

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The residents groups are still opposed to a return parade

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by Ligoneil lodges. But unionists say

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their campaign to get rid of the Parades Commission is being stepped

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up and next week they're expected to meet the Secretary of State.

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BBC Newsline's Mark Simpson reports. It was the most peaceful 12th of

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July in years. The violence and many people feared did not materialise.

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Including in north Belfast, where the return journey by Ligoneil

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lodges of the Crumlin Road was prevented by a parade commission

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ruling for the second year in a row. The Orange Order has been praised

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for its peaceful reaction, but in Ardoyne today the residents groups

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made it clear that it would take more than one peaceful 12th of July

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to resolve the parades issue. I think we need to change the

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attitudes. What happens at the weekend was a positive move and I

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think we need to build on it. The other residents group says it is

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also prepared to talk, but is a return parade by the Ligoneil Lodges

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really possible? I don't think we'll ever see another evening parade

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through this community. They are unwanted. We need to sit down and

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make the alternative route viable. It's the only solution. That's not

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what Orange Order supporters here wanted to hear. The protest camp has

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been here for the past year. There is a 24-hour shift system currently

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in place here. They are well looked after. They have CCTV, they have

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electric heaters, and cattle. They certainly have made themselves at

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home, but they believe the weekend's events have brought them

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closer to getting what they want - a parade back up the Crumlin Road.

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I've spent every night here, working during the day and come in here at

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night. I am very hopeful that we are doing the right thing. We are

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lobbying for our team and rights. Talking to people on both sides of

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the divide here, it is difficult to see how there will ever be a

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solution to the parades dispute. The peaceful weekend did do something

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important, which was to give everyone some breathing

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There had been dire warnings about the potential for a repeat

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of the serious violence when the return leg of the north Belfast

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The police weren't taking any chances

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and deployed more than a thousand officers in the area on Saturday -

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Our Home Affairs Correspondent Vincent Kearney watched

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These commanders were confidence. There was little chance of any

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attempt to breach their minds. A barrier was erected across this road

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to mark the decision made by the parades commission to stop a parade

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from passing. Violence erupted quickly when the parade was stopped.

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This year, it was a different story. Orange Order marshals created space

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between marchers Orange Order marshals created space

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prevent them coming face to face. 12 months ago, a number of police

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officers were seriously injured. This year only words were exchanged.

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Shortly after 7pm, the parade arrived and stopped. After a speech

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in support of the north Belfast Lodges, they walked back down the

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road away from police lines. Some said they believed it was a setup.

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When the crowds dispersed, the MP for the area gave this risk bonds: I

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want to condemn the local community -- I want to commend the local

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community here and the political parties who have come together in a

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united way to provide the leadership which has resulted in a day which I

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believe marks a watershed in terms of this campaign, to restore the

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lawful rights of the Orange brethren of the community. With greater

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planning and greater leadership, perhaps the violence of last year

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could have been avoided? The reality is that the situation on this road

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has been created by the denial of shared space by Republican threats

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of violence. That is fundamentally what is at stake here. Today isn't

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the end. Today is in many ways the beginning of this campaign. We need

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to make sure that violence that a fact political decisions isn't what

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it has been in the past. This is the will of the unionist people. We will

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move onto the next part which will be peaceful lawful. The Chief

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Constable Matt Baggott of the -- visited the area earlier in the day.

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There was a protest by nationalist residents against violence. There's

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been a lot hard work residents against violence. There's

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these communities to de-escalate the tension and reduce the likelihood

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these communities to de-escalate the this falling into the source of

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violence we have seen in previous years. There has been

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violence we have seen in previous work going on. In the

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violence we have seen in previous and in communities as well. That

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optimism was well founded. 900 officers in riot gear were due in

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north Belfast but were not needed. The police barrier was dismantled

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and the road reopened without a still being thrown. The coalition of

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the Orange Order, mainstream unionist parties and political

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representatives have been widely praised for ensuring the parade here

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on Saturday night passed on peacefully. The role of the Loyalist

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paramilitaries were key to what happened on the ground. On this

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occasion, they ensured there was no trouble. Having done so, could be

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more difficult for them to argue they will have no influence if...

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With me now are two men who've been involved in talks over the parade

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at Ardoyne, Father Gary Donegan and the Reverend Norman Hamilton.

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We've heard a lot over the weekend about breathing space

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but residents groups are already saying no to a return parade -

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is it time for a new attitude, for a generosity from residents?

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I think we are delighted with the breathing space but obviously the

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reality is, as soon as we can get back into gushy Asians, talks, for

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people to be able to sit down face-to-face and... The factor that

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comes into this is that people in Ardoyne in that general area were

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all very concerned about the wider process. We are frustrated with the

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fact that Ardoyne is the canvas on which everybody paints their

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problems around the 12th of July parades. We are feeling that we have

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the solution, the potential for a solution in that area. There is a

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need for people to engage as soon as possible. Is public we say no today

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the right attitude? It is Mary Boyce. I am there to help facilitate

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the twin both voices and both communities. In a sense, they are

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probably saying that this is a parade that did not actually

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happened. It was given breathing space. If a parade that is not

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deemed unwelcome in that sense. They are voicing the concerns that are

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actually there. They are not ruling out future talks, in fact, they are

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saying we should begin those as soon as. Norman, you have been involved

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in peace talks over many years. Can you see a time when it will be

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agreed locally? Given the fact that the whole weekend has been played

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out on a very large canvas, it is writes to give credit where credit

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is due. A large amount of credit is due to a lot of people. It does seem

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that, if it is being painted on a large canvas, politics have to be

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made to be seen to work. There is a call on the big picture politics to

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help us... We need some new language, some new ideas, broader

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approach is brought to the bigger political picture so that the

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weather in which the local dialogue takes place remains sunny. There are

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paramilitaries involved in this. As we heard, they were key to keeping

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things safe on the ground. How long do you think you can keep them on

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board? I think the Chief Constable Matt Baggott talks about the need

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for dialogue to be both wide and deep in society. Given that

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paramilitaries lived in the area, it is important that they are included

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in the ongoing process of dialogue. Do we need to take it out of the

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area, take the pressure away from local residents on both sides and

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said this needs to be decided at Stormont? I think you need both. I

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think you need politicians to get down and seriously act on the

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responsibility which they are given. You also need, in order for that to

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be carried out, you need that to be down at the grassroots level. One of

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the problems is that you can talk about big ideas that if you don't

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work it down to the grassroots level, decisions will not be carried

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out at the root level. Norman, what do you think about that? I think it

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does need to be at both levels. We do need to put onto the table new

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ideas, ones that have not been well explored such as generosity of

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spirit, such as working for the common good. Being a churchman, dare

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I suggest that we talk about forgiveness? That is usually

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confined to a religious environment but I think there is a case for the

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need to talk about forgiveness as part of the reconciliation and the

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creating of a climate that is healthy. Thank you very much.

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I'm just nervous in case I am out of my depth and can't make it to the

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top. The controversial Bushmills Dunes

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golf project will still go ahead, despite the death in America

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of the businessman behind the idea. Alistair Hanna,

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who was originally from Belfast, died from cancer at the weekend.

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Our business correspondent Julian O'Neill reports.

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Alistair Hanna and was aged 69 and for the last 20 years of his life

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had taught what -- talked of creating a world-class golf resort.

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His plan was Bushmills Dunes, ?100 million project combining a

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championship course, I can tell and 70 lodgers. It obtained planning

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permission to years ago, a controversial decision because of

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its proximity to the Giants Causeway world Heritage site. A High Court

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challenge by the National trust failed and Alistair Hanna's

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relatives said today that despite his death, work on the project would

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begin later this year. In a statement, his wife said that the

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Bushmills complex was big commendation of a life's dreams.

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Born in Belfast, he had been living in the United States for 40 years.

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Most of it he spent working with a management consultancy firm.

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Let's look at some of today's other news now.

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Two petrol bombs have been thrown at an East Belfast police station.

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They were thrown from the direction of Willowfield

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And two orange halls in County Londonderry have been targeted

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In Eglinton a union flag was removed and replaced with one from the 32

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The police say they are treating it as a hate crime.

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And in Limavady flammable liquid was poured on the front door of a hall

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For some, it's an embarrassing secret.

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And one which can be hard to hide, particularly in the summer season.

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But it seems a growing number of adults are taking the plunge and

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Andy West went to meet one non-swimmer,

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Today Bernie Kennedy is taking her first ever swimming lesson. OK, come

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in. This is the pool. Taking a look at that, how do you feel? I'm very,

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very anxious. My heart is racing. This is a huge step for me. I was

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thrown into the loch shore when I was a teenager and I was fully

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clothed. I went down under three times and they had to come in and

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rescue me. I just have a fear in out of the water. I would like to be

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brave for my children, to take them swimming. If we went swimming

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sometime and they get into difficulty, I would like to be able

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to help them. Dennis has been teaching adults as well as children

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to swim for 35 years. People laugh at me -- people worry that they will

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be laughed at for their shape and size. It's never too late to get out

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there. It's sensuous, lovely, spiritual. After a day in the

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office, it's lovely to get in and have a swim and feel the water

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closing round you like a warm blanket. Freshly changed into her

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schooling costume, it was time for an anxious Bernie to climb down into

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the pool. She took her first few tentative steps in the water. My

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heart is racing! It's impossible to know how many adults like Bernie can

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swim because they are embarrassed to admit it. A recent survey shows that

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as many as 40% of schoolchildren believe that learning as an adults

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only becomes harder and believe that learning as an adults

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frightening. Time for Bernie to put her faith in the water. This is the

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part I have been dreading. It was very dark and I panicked.

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A lifelong fear confronted in just a few seconds. I feel amazing. I have

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come a long Around 4,000 members were supported

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by the band. For some, this day out means more to them than the 12th of

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July. Thousands turned out to see the parade. I love everything about

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it apart from the rain! It's very enjoyable. Some of my friends from

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school came along. It's a great family atmosphere. The pipe band is

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especially amazing. I like to see my grandparents. The event is normally

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held the day after the 12th of July, but the organisers felt that a day

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of rest this year would encourage more people out. It's the 14th of

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July rather than the 12 The price for Armagh is a trip

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Roscommon this weekend. Cavan and down are both down and out. Arab

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reprieve begins in Homer. With barely five seconds on the clock in

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Homer, it was just like the good old days. When the dust settles, there

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were yellow cards for Tyrone's Matthew Donnelly. Tyrone were

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reduced to 14 men. Ten of the 12 points came from frees so the home

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side stayed in touch. Then on the resumption of the reenergised Tyrone

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was soon level. Armagh, the better side of the day, aged ahead and kept

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their noses in front to send our great rivals into this year's

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all-Ireland championship. It was devastating but you have to take

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that in sports. We came here to win this game. We have taken a hit with

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a few injuries across the season. Armagh were better than us on the

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day. We were playing properly in the first half. Cavan bowed out a living

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by 11 points. In the World Superbikes,

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Jonathan Rea now lies third in the overall standings after Round Nine

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of the Championship in California. The Ballyclare rider was sixth

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in Race One in Laguna Seca, before clinching a podium finish

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in Race Two, coming in third. Eugene Laverty from Toomebridge was

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one place further back in fourth - and now lies ninth

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in the overall standings. The Coleraine brothers Richard

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and Peter Chambers have won bronze medals at the Rowing World Cup

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in Lucerne. They were half of the

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Great Britain Men's Lightweight Four crew in Switzerland.

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They had won their semi-final well on Saturday -

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but in the final, they had to settle for third place and a bronze

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medal after finishing just under six seconds behind the eventual

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winners New Zealand, with the crew from Denmark in second place.

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Rory McIlroy is heading to this week's Open Championship after he

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finished tied in fourteenth place at the Scottish Open at Royal Aberdeen.

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Stephen Watson is at Hoylake all this week for BBC Newsline.

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In five years, the famous yellow leaderboard will be at Royal

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Portrush. This week it's at Royal Liverpool, were for Northern Irish

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golfers are trying to win the biggest tournaments. One man has

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already done that. Darren Clarke was the champion in 2011. Graeme

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Mcdowell arrives here in fine form, fresh from his French Open triumph.

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Rory McIlroy will have been a bit frustrated with his performance at

:24:40.:24:42.

the Scottish open, failing to capitalise after breaking a record

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in round one. He's still playing very well as is the fourth local

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qualifier here. I will be reporting all this week.

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Finally, Derry City seem to have rediscovered their mojo.

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They beat Bray Wanderers 5-0 yesterday -

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and will be back in Europa League action later in the week.

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Cliftonville start their Champions League campaign tomorrow night

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A lot of people are off on their holidays now. Some of our reviewers

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in the north coast spotted a cruise ship coming into ports. You can see

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the little boats as the people were getting off. Unfortunately it looks

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like they ran into dark clouds. The good news is it isn't looking like

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that for the rest the week. It will be changeable with further rain at

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times but we will have dry days too, particularly Tuesday and

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Thursday. It looks like the second half the week will bring

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temperatures into the midst or low 20s. Some sharp rain through the

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course of the afternoon today but it's just clearing away from the

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County Down coast. A nice evening to come with sunshine. Quite warm in

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places but it will turn fresh as the night goes on. Temperatures in

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single figures in the countryside. A couple of showers around for the

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most part dry night. To begin with tomorrow it will be cool and fresh,

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but with light winds it should start to feel quite warm in the sun. One

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or two showers may come through, especially through the morning but

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otherwise drive. By lunchtime, temperatures should be in the high

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teens. In fine weather around tomorrow afternoon. Temperatures up

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teens. In fine weather around to 18 degrees. Most places

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teens. In fine weather around some sunshine at times. There will

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be areas of cloud. By the end of the day we should see temperatures up to

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20 degrees. If you are planning a barbecue, tomorrow is not a bad day

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habits. There is some rain to come in from the West tomorrow evening,

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giving us a wet night. The breeze picks up two and also a warm night

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to come. That's a sign of things warming up from Wednesday on routes.

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More humid weather likely from Wednesday with showers around and

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temperatures up to 20 degrees. There is a should be a fine day with

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sunshine and temperatures up to 24 degrees.

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Our late summary is at 10:25pm.You can also keep in contact with

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us via Facebook and Twitter. From BBC Newsline, goodnight.

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