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spells and it will get warmer -- sunny spells. A story with a happy

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ending. Now

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Good evening, the headlines on BBC Newsline.

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No sign of a solution to the health budget crisis.

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We hear from those at the sharp end of medical care.

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And from inside this emergency department.

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I'm live with those working on the front line who say further

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20 years after the first IRA cease-fire, how much have things

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changed on the border? I've come to Newry to find out.

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Ahead of the weekend's All Ireland Gaelic Football semi-final we look

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And as we start the last weekend of summer 2014, it looks

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like we can expect a good deal of dry weather, but not all the time.

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Good evening and welcome to the programme.

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The crisis at the health service over budget

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Last night, we brought details of the services the Health Minister

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Edwin Poots believes he will have to sacrifice unless he gets more money

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from the Assembly, among them, cuts to care packages for the elderly,

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pay freezes for staff and fewer agency staff. Tonight,

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we'll bring you the views of those already under pressure.

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Our health correspondent Marie Louise Connolly is at

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It is an emergency Department, just like this one, which would feel the

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impact of those cuts first. If they do go ahead. The man who runs this

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department here is Sean McGovern, thank you for joining us. Today your

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colleagues have described those potential cuts as catastrophic. Is

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that how you see it? I wouldn't use those terms. I would say they are

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challenging. These cuts, reported to be around ?140 million, represents

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3.4% of the budget, so it is a significant amount of money. We have

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heard a lot of doom and gloom forecast this week, but let's look

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forward. If the cuts go ahead, how would the Department or hospital

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cope? We have a number of recommendations in relation to this

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scenario where you could consider the GPs working here, or recruiting

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staff from other areas coming into the emergency department as

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training, and the advancement of nurse practitioners. Will there be

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money to facilitate that? We have to look at this in the round. It is up

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to the politicians, the public and professionals to prioritise what

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they want from the health care service, and to keep focusing on

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patient outcomes. What can the public to do help themselves as the

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winter pressures loom? There's a number of patients that comment

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because of frustration with their GP. -- that come in. If they didn't

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come here, that would alleviate the pressure is on urgency departments.

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Thank you for that. At Lee, what happens in here impacts on those in

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the community. -- ultimately, what happens here. Our correspondent has

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been meeting some of those anti-receiving care but two are

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calling for speedy action. Type 1 diabetes requires constant

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monitoring. With most patients being seen by day but it nurse in the

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first year. But for some appointment delays mean an anxious wait. It's

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supposed to be reviewed every three months, but I saw her last in March

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this year and I was due another appointment in June or July. I

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didn't get an appointment. When I rang, they said they couldn't get an

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appointment until December. So, instead of having three monthly

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appointments, it is going to be and nine monthly appointment. In a

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statement, the trust said.... The patient inclined council here

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says that from April 2013, to August this year, it received 363

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complaints about general waiting times. It is feared this will get

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worse. This resource Centre in Londonderry provides a range of

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services to the elderly and they, too, could be under threat. One

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manager says mixed messages about care in the community are not

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helping. The Department of Health and the Assembly are cutting

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services to older people. It is a massive contradiction, and a massive

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impact on older people in the next 10-15 years. And it will be a cut

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too far for many here. It's difficult, so it is. I would like to

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have seen more things for the older people, older pensioners. And to

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brighten up their lives. It is a message she hopes will be heard at

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Stormont. These cuts will affect those in hospital and out in the

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community. Linda Robinson is with me. Can you envisage the domiciliary

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care packages which could also be cut being pushed even further to the

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edge? Age and I are saying they are at the brink. People are waiting

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with complex needs and dementia at home for these care packages,

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individuals who are saying fair packages have been cut, and it is

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about cutting those individuals that are living at home. There isn't very

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much can do inside 15 minutes, is the? Very little, and you will know

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that there is very little you can do particularly with someone with

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dementia or physical needs, which means it isn't to get to the toilet,

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get breakfast or get to bed. The road map for care in Northern

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Ireland was about transforming your care. How viable, rarely, now is

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that road plan if these cuts no ahead? I think there are lots of us

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that will be challenging and saying that where is transforming your

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care? This road map doesn't look like it is transforming anyone's

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care. We wanted to keep people at home for longer with good quality

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care, and these cuts do not reflect that. Thank you. We've had the views

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this evening of those clinicians inside a hospital setting like this,

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and also the impact of those potential cuts out and about in the

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community. It is quite for a Friday evening but the extra staff are

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about to start their shift, and it will get it easier.

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Well, to put some of the spending debate in context,

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our Economics and Business Editor John Campbell is here.

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Let's start with the health department budget, wasn't

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It was protected. Thinking back to 2011, the Executive was facing a

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tough spending environment, all departments were going to face 8%

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cuts. The Executive decided health was too important, the budget would

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continue to rise by the rate of inflation every year, which is what

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has happened, and as a result of the departments have had faced up to 20%

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cuts. At health was protected in the 2011 budget. If that's the case, why

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has this current process, about? -- current crisis, about? Some would

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say the health executive hasn't been good with managing its budget. But

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there are other factors at play. There is limitless demand for health

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services and all health systems across the world face this problem

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of these demands. And there are issues about how the population is

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changing, it is growing with many more older people, which means there

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are more expensive conditions to treat and last longer. The rate of

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increase in spending tends to face greater pressures than other

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services, and it is also useful to look at the UK spending context for

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health. Some research carried out lately said that between 2000-20 --

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2009, the spending cuts were open. The -- they said we spent more on

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people. But spending started to fall

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2009-2011. They give you a good idea of the context of what is really

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happening to health spending. What's the picture over the coming

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months and years? There will be cuts to public services budgets up until

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2018 - 2019, and that is unavoidable. What is going to happen

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in the next couple of months is there is another spending round in

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Stormont. There will be another round of budget there. We will need

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a four year budget, and a lot of work will be completed by Christmas.

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Given the political difficulties we have at Stormont, it will be a big

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challenge for the Stormont to agree on the budget.

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We asked for an interview with Simon Hamilton but he was unavailable.

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So, what will it take at a political level to resolve this

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It's not the first time our politicians have been confronted

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Kevin Sharkey's been getting the views

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This is in the first time there's been a funding shortage but this

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time the impact is more serious. How can our politicians resolve their

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differences and provide the money needed to avert cutbacks? This

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former political adviser believes the problem must be addressed as a

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single issue. If the health funding crisis and other issues to do with

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budgets are drawn into a discussion around parades, flags, and he

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passed, then I think we could have a real problem because that intensity

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and complexity of the negotiation is very difficult to resolve, so they

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need to deal with these issues on health now, and they need to deal

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with them away from any other issues in order to get them resolved.

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Politicians don't always agree at Stormont but there have been times

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when the parties have managed to work out a way forward like the foot

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and mouth crisis during a previous administration. There was total

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corporation. I didn't experience any attempt at party political scoring.

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Everyone worked together and that is how you face a crisis. You face a

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crisis like I did, and this should be phased by all the parties working

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together. The public will watch to see of that kind of cross-party

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Corporation helps to resolve this health crisis. Many people,

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including politicians, will be returning to work in September. One

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thing is for sure. The politicians are returning to Stormont with a lot

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The Republic's Justice minister, Frances Fitzgerald,

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has said she's disturbed by a report that, within the last

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year, a member of the Gardai texted sensitive information to

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It's understood the information was about two dissident suspects

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For more, we're joined now by our Dublin correspondent Shane Harrison.

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Details are still emerging on this story, what's the latest?

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Well, this is highly embarrassing for the Garda, coming less than 12

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months that an unnamed officer had passed on information to the IRA

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about the murders of two senior RUC officers in the 1980s pollution. In

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this latest incident of alleged collusion, it's reported that a

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rogue officer text did the IRA about two dissident republicans being held

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in custody within the past 12 months. The man at the centre of

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this has reportedly left the force. But it is understood from the

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Department of Justice that he is under criminal investigation at the

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moment in relation to this and in relation to another matter. No

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disciplinary action was taken against him whilst he was still a

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serving officer, and the Justice Minister has asked the acting

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commissioner for a full report on the matter.

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Thank you. The 20th anniversary of the first

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IRA ceasefire is on Sunday. This week on BBC Newsline,

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we've been looking back Tonight,

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we're looking at the impact. Mark Simpson has been to Newry to

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see how more peaceful times have changed life in the city

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on the border. The cease-fire has changed the

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landscape here. Within ten years, house prices have troubled. Some

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development land was selling for ?1 million an acre. Today there are

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still flags on lamp posts, but they are new flags, flying for pride

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weekend. So much has changed in the past 20 years. During the dark days

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of the Troubles, this was an all too familiar sight. Death and

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destruction in Newry. Hill Street was, and is, one of the main

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shopping streets. This man runs a shoe shop here. His son Gregory was

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born just before the cease-fire. This family business has been here

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in good times and in bad. We were burnt down, collateral damage from

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bombs, in the 70s and 80s. They were dreadful days. You never knew

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whether you are going to be open, you never knew whether you are going

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to get a full day's trading. We experience things outside our door

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that no human should see at any stage of their lives, and I always

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aspired for Newry to be the same as London, to be the same as Brighton,

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Norwich, Liverpool. That they would have the selection of shops, that it

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would have the selection of people, that it would be an open and

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welcoming society. And I have to say I feel we have achieved that.

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Gregory, when you hear the stories of what Newry is to be like, what do

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you think? It's almost like this imaginary nightmare world that I

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have no experience of. So it is strange to have something is strange

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to have so foreign because I work in the shop here from time to time as

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well, so for me to imagine people from the army running past, or bombs

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going off, it's so strange so I don't know how to feel about it.

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I've heard it so many times, it has normalised it for me. This used to

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be a normal site around Newry, and 20 years ago, large military

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watchtowers surrounded the border roads. Not any more. The border, of

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course, is still here, it's just more difficult to see, and what the

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past 20 years have brought is more cross-border traffic, and with it

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more cross-border business. This Newry cafe opened the right time,

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just before the cease-fire. Run by five sisters back in 1994, there

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were very different negotiations going on here. Even from deciding

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what soup we would be making the next day, that would be discussed in

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depth. And it didn't matter. You are mindful of what was going on in the

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news, and we hoped for a solution, and hoping for peace. We knew that

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to some day we thought we were going to get married and have kids, and I

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wanted to think they would be brought up in a different

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environment that I grew up in. They started with one coffee shop. They

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now have six. Phenomenal business over the last decade. We have been

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through it all. Like everywhere else, it ebbs and flows, things have

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slowed down, but not that much. In the space of 20 years, Newry has

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gone from being a town to a city. It's more confident, more colourful,

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and more upbeat. Previously confidential files have

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revealed that the Northern Ireland Office had concerns

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about Margaret Thatcher's commitment Official papers from 1985, which

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have just been released, show that senior figures from the Secretary

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of State Tom King to the Head of the Northern Ireland Civil Service

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believed the deal offered more to Within days of the agreement,

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Margaret Thatcher outed her advisers by being uncertain as to whether or

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not she would defend the agreement. This is very disturbing. And with

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Tom King, who is trying to roll back on the negotiations which have been

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progressed by his predecessor, Douglas Hurd, he's not happy about

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an Irish presence in Belfast in terms of the secretary at, he

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doesn't want the Irish government involved in parades, and he believes

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much more has been given to the Irish than the British. And,

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finally, the long-standing top civil servant, he discovers what is in the

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agreement. He sees it as one-sided. And almost fell to destabilise

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rather than stabilise the political situation.

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Thieves have tried to steal an ATM in Castlerock in the early hours

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It's thought that the tractor of a lorry was stolen

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from the Newmills Road in Coleraine and then driven to a petrol station

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It was reversed into the building a number of times

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The lorry was found at premises at the Garvagh Road this morning and

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We heard this week how scientists have used state

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of the art technology to try to discover just why sheepdogs are

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But next month we'll find out just which of them, the animals that is,

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not the scientists, is literally top dog at the world

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Our reporter Gordon Adair has been to the Mournes to meet one entrant.

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Sheep. They can be an unruly lot. They have to be watched closely,

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like this. But these particular sheep don't realise that they are

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under the gaze of a potentially world beating team in Jim and his

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dog. There is only a few of them that have that extra ability, it is

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just think they have got or haven't got. A good dog has that extra

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ability of doing things better. Has a good way with sheep. A cautious

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approach and that type of thing. When you're walking the dog, you

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find out which ones have it and which ones don't. The pair will

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travel to the world sheepdog trials next week. This year, they are being

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held in Scotland as part of the year-long homecoming event. There's

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people all over the world, people from all over the world that go to

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the World Championship. And it is anybody's guess. Dogs are used

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everywhere and they are becoming more popular in different

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countries. The trialling is getting more popular and there is more

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often. What about these robots we have heard mentioned on the news?

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They seem to think that they can work out the patterns that sheepdogs

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can use. What do you think about them? I'd love to see them in the

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mountains! Now, it's a big weekend of sport,

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not least in Gaelic football, with former all Ireland winner with me to

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look ahead. Sunday sees the winners

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of the last two All Ireland Donegal, who won the title two years

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ago, face current holders Dublin at To look forward to the game,

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joining us is Oisin McConvill, Everybody says that this is a

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straightforward Dublin win. Can the Ulster champions spring a surprise?

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It's going to be tough for them to spring a surprise. Dublin have been

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hugely impressive all year, Donegal not so. I think the intriguing thing

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is what Donegal are going to bring to the table and the thing that

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people are looking forward to. As games go, this is the one everybody

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wants to see. What Donegal going to do? Are they going to play with 15

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defenders? Their style of play is often deemed by many to be negative.

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Can you see them being more adventurous? No, I can't. If

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anything, they're going to be even more defensive. Chances like this,

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they are going to be key. Any chance Donegal get, they are going to take

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it. That is the chance they have now. Dublin, people have built up to

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be unbeatable, but I don't know if that is the case. Donegal is the one

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team that can test them. If Donegal are going to win, who were the key

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players? If Donegal want to win, they need to get Michael Murphy on

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the ball a lot. He is a player that turns games. There are very few

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people that can grab a game by the scruff of the neck, and he is one of

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those that can grab the game by the scruff of the neck and get his team

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over the line. They will be very low reliant on him. Thank you.

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World number one Rory McIlroy has continued his hot streak of form.

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He's playing in the opening round of the Deutsche Bank Championship

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And today got off to a flyer, with birdies on three

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After this incredible approach on the first, he then holed

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He is currently on two under par which leaves him four shots off the

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lead going into the weekend. Another great effort thereby Rory McIlroy.

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Stuart Olding will play his first game for Ulster

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in ten months after being selected in the starting 15 to face Leinster

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He's been out since November after rupturing a cruciate ligament.

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The inter-provincial clash tomorrow is Ulster's last pre-season match

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before the start of the new Guinness Pro12 season, when they will face

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It is a rivalry is so fierce that even Kermit has been forced to

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choose sides. Along with that star backing, the bragging rights have

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belonged to Leinster. Time after time, they have blocked Ulster's

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path to silverware but Ulster are desperate to reverse this trend, and

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in Interprovincial is the perfect way to lead into the campaign. You

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are playing the current champions. The most successful club in Europe

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over the last five or six years, so you are playing top opposition. If

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you can go away from home and put in a performance and beat a team like

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that, it leaves you in good stead. They say it is a preseason friendly,

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but I've have never known an Ulster-Leinster game that was a

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friendly! There will be a lot of collisions, a lot of opportunity for

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people on different sides. Ulster's up-and-coming talent has caught the

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eye drink preseason. -- caught the eye cheering preseason. You couldn't

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fault the work ethic of the younger eyes. Sometimes you have to

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structure and is outside of rugby and that is going to be the big

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challenge for them. Rugby, nothing else. For the newcomers and seasoned

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pros, total focus will be required at the Stadium tomorrow afternoon.

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The Coleraine brothers Richard and Peter Chambers have reached

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the World Championship rowing final on Sunday as part of the

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GB Lightweight Four crew. You can see them go for gold live

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on BBC Two this Sunday. Finally, we'll have results and

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goals from tonight's local football matches on our later bulletin.

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Now the weekend weather. Some of us got more wet weather than others.

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Many of us will enjoy dry spells during the evening. Some rain

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threatening the north coast. Most of us stay dry. It will be a mild

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night. A little bit breezy and the winds stay with us until Saturday

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but it isn't a bad day. Largely dry with some sunny spells coming and

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going. The best of the sunshine tomorrow morning. Brisk winds

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towards the north coast. By the time we move into the afternoon, there is

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a thin band of showers coming in from the West, pushing eastwards,

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and some of us might avoid them altogether. If you get one, a

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shouldn't be too heavy. It will brighten up getting into the middle

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of the afternoon. If you're travelling, it would have unsettled

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weather across Scotland, Wales and the central areas of England.

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Elsewhere, dry and bright. For much of Ireland, looking at a dry

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picture, one for the outdoors. Northern Ireland tomorrow evening,

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some showers, eventually they will clear and a few of us will enjoy

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some evening sunshine. Overnight into Sunday, the cloud comes in with

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scattered showers. The temperature hold up to about 11 or 12, so not

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too bad at promising start with a fair amount of cloud. Through the

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day, we have this weak front coming in, bringing some stronger winds

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during the day and some patchy light rain and drizzle, so prepare

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yourself. By the evening, trying up in the West, with some sunshine is

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developing. Once the wet weather clears away, for Monday, choose day

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on Wednesday, we have little or no rain, and then we expect

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temperatures to climb up to the mid-20s.

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Our late summary is at 10:25pm. You can also keep in contact with

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us via Facebook and Twitter. From BBC Newsline, goodnight.

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He was just a big, honest, decent man.

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