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Thank you very much indeed. That is it from Edinburgh we

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Good evening, the headlines on BBC Newsline.

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The First Minister tells us the constant disagreements mean it's

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None of those brought down the executive, while none of those were

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capable of ensuring that we could no longer proceed as an executive, we

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now have an issue, which simply cannot be left on the shelf.

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We'll be asking DUP and Sinn Fein ministers for their solution.

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Away from Stormont it's a united front, as hundreds

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Could what's called a "living wage" mean more money in our pockets?

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Prv it would frighten the living daylights out of me.

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And they did it in the sunshine, so it will be be more tomorrow? I will

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have the forecast. So the First Minister Peter Robinson

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says the arrangements for the devolved Assembly are

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"No longer fit for purpose." He wants

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the government to convene new talks The Deputy First Minister Martin

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McGuinness says Sinn Fein is always But he's questioned whether they

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would be successful because We'll be hearing from a DUP

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and a Sinn Fein minister shortly. First, our political editor Mark

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Devenport reports on an impending Complaints about the delays and

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vetoes built into the current Stormont system aren't new. But what

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is bringing the issue to the boil now, is the divide between the

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parties over welfare reform. Sinn Fein MLAs demonstrated outside the

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assembly building yesterday against what they view as Tory welfare cuts.

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Republicans appear prepared to maintain their opposition at least

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until next year's general election, in the hope that a new Government in

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London might cut Northern Ireland benefit claimants a better deal. By

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contrast, the DUP fears Treasury fines combined with the price of

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introducing a stand alone computer system will break the Stormont bank.

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We now have an issue which simply cannot be left on the shelf, it is

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one that has to be dealt with, because we simply cannot afford in

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terms of welfare, reform, to lift up the tab of a billion pounds a year,

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when we only have a budget for resource expenditure of ?10 billion.

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We simply couldn't cut by 1,000 million pounds the services we give

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to the people and the people who provide those services within the

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public sector. If you don't get what you want is this a resigning matter?

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You are not going to find any member of the Democratic Unionist Party who

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will be willing to cull a thousand million pound out of the budget.

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What kind of party would be prepared to allow the people of Northern

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Ireland to suffer, by having the welfare costs applied which

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literally throw money away. By calling for a round of negotiations,

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just like the St Andrew's talks in 2006, Peter Robinson is consciously

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setting the stakes high. He is arguing it is time to scrap the

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system we had for the past seven years and replace it with something

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radically different. But Republicans are sceptical. Sinn Fein has always

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been up for an engagement on meaningful and genuine and positive

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dialogue and discussion to resolve problems and we will do so again,

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but I do caution everybody, as to whether or not this is a serious

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attempt to resolve these issues, and I think many people out there will

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be asking themselves, very serious questions about those who have been

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invited, to talk to them, who have not yet been agreed and the negative

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approach they have adopted to these institutions over the course of many

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years. That is thinly veiled code for this Manchester United,

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Stormont's arch critic who said he would attend talks. This system is a

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failure, for Mr Robinson to say it is unfit for purpose, yet to

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continue to prop it up, is a surprising contraDick tiontion if he

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thinks it is unfit for purpose put it out of its agony. Stormont has

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the builders in, carry -- carrying out vital repair, when or whether

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political repair work gets under way remains uncertain.

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The Secretary of State said she would be looking carefully at Peter

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Robinson's proposals, but stressed the need for local political leaders

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to address the issues which are blocking effective decision-making.

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Theresa Villiers said it was vital to find a way forward with welfare

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reform or there was a real danger the institutions would

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-- contradiction. The real danger is theys, it becomes more difficult to

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get decisions made for the coalition to work effectively. We although

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that managing coalitions are difficult but if month after month

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you are taking very difficult decisions is about cuts having to be

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made to other departmental budgets to fund a more expensive welfare

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system, that is very difficult, it makes political relationships much

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more strained, it will inhibit the effectiveness and the ability of the

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Northern Ireland Executive to deliver on things like school,

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hospitals and policing, and that is why it is an issue that needs to be

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resolved. This is a strong case for implementing welfare reform and I

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I'm joined now in the studio by the DUP enterprise minister

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Arlene Foster and the Sinn Fein education minister John O'Dowd.

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What are the DUP talking about here? An early election or back to the

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negotiating table? What we are saying when we look back to St

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Andrew's we said it was a fair deal to move forward with but it wasn't

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the final destination, we felt there was a need to look at a better way

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of doing devolution if I can use that phrase in the future, and now

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this welfare reform issue has brought all of those things to a

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head, and Peter is now saying it is time to look at the running of

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Stormont, how can we make it bet foreit were people of Northern

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Ireland, how can we make it more efficient and effective, that is

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what it is about. You are talking about going back to the negotiating

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table. What would an election achieve? He didn't mention an

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election in his piece in the paper. What he is focussed on is having

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good Government for Northern Ireland, I think the people of

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Northern Ireland want politicians to look at the faults if there are any

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and try to make them better. Are you looking for wholesale change? An

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opposition and a government as we have in London and in Dublin? When

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Government was set up back in 2007 there were various community

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safeguards put into place, sometimes those are seen as vetoes and the

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veto that has been caused by Sinn Fein's refusal to pass welfare

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reform into Northern Ireland, is causing severe difficulties for us

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now, in relation to ?79 million of cuts which are having to be

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implemented right across Government and Northern Ireland, and what Peter

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is saying, given the information we have received from our national

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Government, is that that is going to cost ?100 million of a cut to the

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Northern Ireland Executive budget and there is no way we could

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implement those sorts of figures, in Northern Ireland, and run an

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efficient and effective Government. The DUP has used in the past.

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Exactly. The DUP leader describes this as time consuming, sluggish, we

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know there is a failure in decision making at the moment, so how can you

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fix that system? Well, Sinn Fein are always willing to engage and debate

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and discuss these issues, whether it is the DUP or others, what concerns

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us about this proposal it appears the DUP wish to bring in

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anti-agreement elements into the discussion, why you would wanted to

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bring into discussions round the future of the assembly about the

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future of the power-sharing executive, society, people who are

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expressly against all those elements, is a case of concern to

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us. It appears to be an anti-agreement axis working together

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to undermine the institutions. We have listeners and viewers

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contacting the BBC all the time, they say the folks on the hill, they

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are not making the decisions, you are not working it out. The

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power-sharing isn't working, you have been elected to power-share,

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how will you fission it It can work if the individuals wish them to

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work. However, if those have an idea we are going to return to one party

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rule they are living in cloud cuckoo land... Is that what you want? Are

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you talking about negotiating the St Andrew's agreement or the Good

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Friday Agreement as John O'Dowd seems to be suggesting? John is

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inSuperintendenting the intelligence of your viewers by suggesting that,

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and I am surprised he rays up is an issue, if you read Peter Robinson's

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report, I would urge people to read it, he suggests we need to make

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devolution better, I would have thought everybody would have wanted

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to make devolution better for the future of people of Northern

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Ireland. I have listened to all the parties today, and none of them are

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saying that devolution is perfect, at the moment, all of them are

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saying there are difficulties so let us look at them and let us make it

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better for the people of Northern Ireland. And we should do it, with

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as many people as we possibly can. I am surprised to hear John talk about

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which shouldn't invite this person or that person, we should try and

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get as wide a view as possible, in Northern Ireland, as to what way we

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move forward. Talks brought us to this place, could further talks take

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us a step further. The purpose of the invite is crucial. If we are

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trying to form an axis that is concerning. Sinn Fein are willing to

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engage, but we are not going back, we have to go forward. It is

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interesting the subject that has reenergised the British's Government

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involvement in politics is welfare cut. We have been saying the British

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Government and the Irish Government have disengaged from the political

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and peace process. We have a British Government very interested in our

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politics but not on the basis of peace building or community building

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it is welfare cuts. That doesn't create a better society or

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Government, it harms people. Both of you given the threat of independence

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has got the Westminster Government offering concessions to Scotland,

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should the both of you not get together and lobby Westminster and

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get more concessions in regard to welfare reforms? It was a DUP

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minister that received concessions in relation to welfare reform at the

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time it was going through Westminster, but it has already been

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implemented and I think that is possibly something that people miss

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from time to time, we should stand together and go against welfare

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reform. Welfare reform is here, it's a aty. We are already dealing with

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?79 million of a cut to our budget, we are looking at 1,000 million next

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year, in relation to cut, and... Where do you get that from? That

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seems to be more than others have been talking about in relation to

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cut, and... Where do you get that from? That seems to be more than

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others have been talking about One billion is what Nick Clegg say it

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takes to run the current computer system in England and Wales and if

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they stop using that computer system, and we take it on, to use it

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ourselves, then we will have to fund that, that is an astronomical

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figure, there is no way we would be able to run a government with a 10%

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cut. People are already suffering from the cuts and the penalties that

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have been imposed. You are not going to get any more money. I think it is

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worth noting the petrols you Scots have got more from the British

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Government than the compliant unionists in this society has got.

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When you stand up to the British Government, when you engage for the

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benefit of greater society you can take changes from the British

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Government, regardless o-of-what happens in relation to the Scottish

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independence vote there will be changes between the British

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Government and Scotland, to the benefit of the Scottish people. I

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think the point that you made, that the executive parties should stand

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united and work with the British Government to create changes here is

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better than the situation we have now. We get benefits from being in

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the UK every day. Before we finish with your Education Ministerial hat

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on John, the executive has agreed on something today, a single education

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board instead of the current five. You were in favour of the education

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skills authority, so what compromises have you made on that?

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Well, all parties have made compromise, this is one of the areas

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the executive has made progress and we make progress on other matter,

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what I said is we can't get agreement, it was a broad piece of

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legislation that covered many area, what we have agreed is to collapse

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that down under the 86 order to one board. People are familiar with the

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workings of the board. They have confidence and we will move forward

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on that basis. Much has it cost in all that time? Up to ?19 millionl

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that time? Up to ?19 million to establish but we can still make

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sayings. Thank you for joining us. Our political editor is at Stormont

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for us this evening. Mark, what is the likelihood that the Government

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will convene those talks, that Mr Robinson wants? Well, it hasn't been

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ruled out. At the same time the Westminster Government will be

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loathe to move ahead unless they felt they had cross-party support.

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As we heard there they come at this from very different angles. If Sinn

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Fein went into negotiations they would want to go into dismantling

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the system they feel has proper checks and balance, they will want

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to load in their concern, be it about welfare reform or about those

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unresolved issue, so we are still some distance away from knowing

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whether such talks would get underway. When you were speaking to

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the First Minister today did you get a feeling he was ready to pull the

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plug if he didn't get his way? I didn't get a feeling it was as

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imminent as when we had the controversy about on the run, it was

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clear that he was ready to resign, instead, when I asked him about the

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possibility of triggering an early election he talked about the

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negotiationing aways fitting into the cycle of elections we already

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have. I detected a softening from some of those reports from this

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A major expansion in Belfast by the financial services company

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Deloitte is delivering more than 300 well-paid jobs.

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Political leaders say it's a sign of confidence in Northern Ireland

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Here's our business correspondent Julian O'Neill.

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Crisis, what crisis? Good news on the jobs front brings a show of

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unity, 338 new posts are being created here, by the global firm

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Deloitte and as far as the economy goes, the executive says it is

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business as usual. We will continue to do our day job in relation to

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bringing jobs here to Northern Ireland, we are a stable place to do

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business with. That message has to go out. The jobs will be delivered

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over a five year period, and will include posts in technology, as well

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as finance. Skilled positions with good salaries. It is a mix of jobs

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in this announcement of 338. The average salary is ?33,000 and that

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will deliver 11 million into the Northern Ireland economy, when we

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are up and running. This is the second tile Deloitte has expanded

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here in as many year -- time and it is helping the ream perform in terms

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of job creation. Like this one, there have been big job

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announcements over the past two years and the economy is picking up.

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But one economic outlook report published today described our

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recovery as patchy. We have the lowest growth rate of 12 UK region,

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and unemployment is twice what it was before the recession. But most

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experts acknowledge clear signs of improvement. The economy is the

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executives number one priority. And when jobs announcements like this

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one come along, success has two fathers.

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Introducing a so-called "living wage" here wouldn't cause

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job losses and could even lead an increase in employment,

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research for the NI Centre for Voluntary Action has suggested.

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The living wage is an hourly rate, above the minimum wage,

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which is assessed as giving workers a basic standard of living.

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Our Economics and Business Editor John Campbell reports.

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It is workers like these that would benefit from the living wage. It is

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?7.657 an hour, by comparison the minimum wage is ?6.31 an hour. Aside

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from care workers the beneficiaries would be staff in retail and

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hospitality. The research suggests that a mandatory living wage would

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help about 173,000 low paid workers here. They would get an average pay

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rise of ?1300 a year. That would cost employers an extra ?221 million

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in wage, but could that afford it? To be honest it would frighten the

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living daylights out of me. It will give me two options, one to pass the

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cost on to clients, who are already very hard-pressed with the economic

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restraints we are all suffering from, or the alternative is to try

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and persuade Government to loosen the regulations, that apply to our

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industry. The organisation which commissioned the research says there

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are risk, but also potential up sides for employers and the whole

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economy It is about 1% extra on the wage bill. We recognise it won't

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fall evenly. Employers will have to find that bypassing on the cost, to

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their customer, in terms of goods answer advice, from reduced profit

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they are making, or the good thing is if they can increase productivity

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and expand their business in this process. In fact the research

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suggests the extra spending power could create as many as 2,500 jobs.

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This Belfast housing associate is already a living wage employer. They

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say that by taking the step it has improved the organisation's

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performance. Not only is the quality of work improved by morale has

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improved over the short-term. But in terms of individual families, it is

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significant getting an extra two, ?2,500 a year on the their income.

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There is widespread political sympathy for low paid workers who

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have seen mere wages squeezed further during the downturn.

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Stormont is unlikely to do anything as radical as imposing the living

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The director of the East Belfast Mission - the church

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group behind the multi-million pound Skainos centre in east Belfast -

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has been dismissed after allegedly falsifying his travel expenses.

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Mark Houston, who's been in the high profile job for seven

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Here's our investigations reporter Kevin Magee.

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As the man responsible for the day-to-day running of the East

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Belfast Mission, Mark Houston, seen here behind the Queen, played host

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to royalty and leading politicians, often showing them around the

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church's flagship social enterprise project, known as Skainos,

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When the ?21 million, mainly publicly funded complex was opened

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two years ago, it was described as a glimpse of the future.

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It is in harmony with where we are as a community at the present time,

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and I want to see Northern Ireland moving forward and this represents

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But behind the positive headlines, the mission has been carrying out

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As part of that, its high-profile director, Mark Houston, seen here

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on the left with the Deputy First Minister, Martin McGuinness, was

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dismissed from his ?50,000-a-year job for gross misconduct -

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for allegedly falsifying documents in relation to travel expenses

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and the inappropriate use of a company credit card.

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According to a disciplinary hearing, he also failed to comply with

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the mission's internet and e-mail policy.

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Mr Houston declined to make any comment, as he said he did not want

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to prejudice any future unfair dismissal case he's bringing

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It is understood he strongly denies any wrongdoing.

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Sources close to him say reasons he was given for his dismissal are

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"deeply flawed" and he feels he has been "very badly treated".

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The mission confirmed Mark Houston has been dismissed for gross

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misconduct, but declined to comment further, saying the dismissal is now

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the subject of legal proceedings, which will be heard in January.

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A west Belfast family whose grandmother died in a fire

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in a care home say they're disappointed the home breached fire

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regulations two years after the pensioner died, despite it

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Kathleen Fegan was critically injured in the blaze in 2012, which

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Care Circle, who now manage the home, have told the BBC that

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Our Health Correspondent Marie-Louise Connolly reports.

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Kathleen Fegan died after a fire broke out in her bathroom at the

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care home where she lived for several months. At the time care was

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provided by this association, but following the incident and other

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problem, it was deregistered and the contract taking over by the care

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Circle group instead. Despite it being under new management,

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inspectors found fire regulations weren't up to standard. Kathleen's

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family said they were disappointed lessons hadn't been learned Couldn't

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believe it. We couldn't get our heads round it. Two years down the

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line they haven't learned anything. The ebbing inspectors found problems

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with fire doors. There was a delay in an alarm bell. In the spoking

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room there weren't enough chairs, with some not fire proof and there

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wasn't a fire blanket in the smoking area. After being contacted by the

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BBC care Circle said: Kathleen's grandson wants other

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families to learn from their experience. Although she did die or

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Rickically, it was a very disturbing death it is an opportunity I feel

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for other families to come forward who feel their most vulnerable

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members of their family's needs aren't being met. The family

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solicitor say more people are resorting to the legal system to

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challenge the authorities and standards of care. I think the care

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home, you know, should provide answers to families, and in the

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absence of any proper answers or can't guilty families will look to

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legal remedy. The inquest is due to get under way on Friday.

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World Boxing champion Carl Frampton got a rousing reception at Belfast

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City Hall today where fans gathered to applaud his win at the weekend.

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The north Belfast fighter was the special guest of the Lord Mayor,

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who described him as the People's Champion.

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He strolled on the stage at City Hall as Belfast's new sporting hero.

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Crowds of people turned out to catch a glimpse of Carl Frampton, he was

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given a Lord Mayor's reception to mark an exceptional achievement.

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There are hundred of people here to welcome and to congratulate the

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latest World Champion from this part of the world, Carl the Jackal

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Frampton, standing beside the Lord Mayor of Belfast. This is obviously

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a very important day for the city, but just explain why it was you

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thought it was important to have Carl on that stage in front of these

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people now? The people of Belfast adore him. There was no point in

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doing something behind closed door, the people of Belfast wanted to show

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how proud they are. They have come out do that. Will The people's

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champion? He is. What about these people gathered round, how important

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are they when you are stepping into a ring in a fight like that I said

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it before, you know, the biggest crowd before this was 9,000 in the

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Odyssey, I said it adds 10% to my game. Maybe 20% this time. Unbelieve

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tfbs. Unbelievable and undefeated. It was -- unbelievable it was.

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Until yesterday temperature cloud was a bit of a sticking point. It

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looked as though it was going to be hanging about. It started to break

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up nicely. That let to idealS for viewing the bright super moon, a

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lovely photograph there taken at Portrush, through today we have been

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left with patchy cloud, running in from the west to north-west.

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Trickling across Northern Ireland from time to time. That is melting

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away, so a fine end to the day, lots of evening sunshine round, some

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lovely sunsets. Through the night, we still have the clear spells and

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it will be chilly in the town, anywhere between six and eight

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degree, but I think we could find one or two rural spots getting close

:26:41.:26:45.

to freezing and the odd pocket of grass frost. They will go tomorrow,

:26:46.:26:50.

it looks like another dry day, decent spells of sunshine. We will

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have that sunshine from the word go. We might find patchy cloud drifting

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in to parts of the east coast. We need to watch the County Down coast

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because of that breeze. It could feel fresh there as well as patchy

:27:03.:27:06.

cloud moving in from time to time. But, inland w the sunshine, well, it

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is looking decent, I think west is going to be best tomorrow and

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towards the north-west. This is where we will see high, 18-20

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degrees. Not bad at all. So another fine evening to come tomorrow and

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again we have clear spells through tomorrow. Tomorrow night there is a

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greater risk we will have a few visibility issue, ewe will see mist

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and fog forming. That could linger into Thursday morning. Clearing to

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get once again decent spells of sunshine and highs of 20 degrees.

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