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has lost its appeal in a discrimination case.

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The judges agreed it was wrong for the firm to refuse to make

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a cake with a decoration that supported same-sex marriage

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even if the statement was against their beliefs.

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BBC Newsline's Tara Mills was in the court.

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The argument over this image on a cake has lasted

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over two years and cost hundreds of thousands of pounds.

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But of course, this court battle has been about much more than a cake.

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Last year, a court found the owners of the bakery had

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discriminated against Gareth Lee by refusing to make it.

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They arrived at court hoping for a favourable outcome

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but the judges rejected their appeal.

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The judges said just because they were going to put

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the message on the cake, it did not mean they believed

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in the same way that if they baked a Halloween cake,

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it did not mean they believed in witches.

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We would not decorate a cake with a pornographic picture

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We would not even decorate a cake with a cruel

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because to do so would be to endorse and promote it.

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The court said the commission gave the impression it was not interested

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in assisting the faith community in issues like this.

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Well, I think a lot of people agree with that today

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and that is certainly how we felt.

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The customer who took the original case has remained publicly silent

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throughout, but today he briefly spoke to the assembled media.

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The only thing I would like to say is that I am relieved but also very

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grateful to the Court of Appeals for the judgment,

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Relief as well from the Equality Commission,

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It said unequivocally faith is important

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but it cannot set aside the equality legislation

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The Appeal Court judges said the company was

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In other words, they could not pick and choose which

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So, what are the wider ramifications?

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Like the case itself, it depends what side you ask.

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For so many LGBT people across Northern Ireland these have

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People have been contacting us about going to a local restaurant,

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booking hotel rooms and whether or not they can

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participate in society and it will be a great of relief

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for the community across Northern Ireland today.

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What about the Catholic baker asked to produce a cake with a message

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supporting abortion, does he have to do it?

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What about a Muslim printer asked to print cartoons of Muhammad?

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Does he have to because of this ruling?

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These are serious issues and the court has thrown

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The couple walked away from court today

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but it is not clear if that is the end of it.

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They could decide to make a further appeal to the House of Lords.

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Earlier on BBC Newsline, I spoke to the legal affairs

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The cushions of. A pathetic and open du

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to be? To take the -- how specific and open? I think a Islam printer

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would have to print anything lawful that a customer asked them to do. It

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does not follow that a bigger has to put anything on a cake, despite what

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the couple were seen today. We understand they have stopped making

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cakes to order, apart from birthday cakes, which are pretty safe. If you

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only make birthday cakes, there is no problem. It is if you say you're

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going to make custom made cakes and the customer can order whatever he

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or she likes on it, that is what you have to do.

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But if you say you're not going to make this book takes a toll, there

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is no problem. If the couple but on the big riches to take this further,

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what options are open to them? The only court they could go to now is

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the United Kingdom Supreme Court in London, which has replaced the House

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of Lords, and you need permission either from the court in Belfast or

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the Supreme Court itself. There may be technical problems, because this

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was a special type of appeal to the court in Belfast. It is what is

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called an appeal by way of case stated, which means the district

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judge as the number of questions to the appeal judges and was told she

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had got it right. That may make it difficult on technical grounds, it

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is just possible the Attorney General could challenge the

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decision. He lost all so today. He argued that the Stormont did not

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have the power to make this legislation, it was itself

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discriminatory. That was thrown out, but he made payable to appeal. The

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real question is money. If the Christian Institute, which has been

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supporting the degree, going to be able to afford the risk of appeal

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and the risk of paying Mr Lee's costs in the event that the court

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rejects the appeal? The First and Deputy First Ministers

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say there was widespread agreement that Northern Ireland is facing

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"unique circumstances" The leaders of all the devolved

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administrations met at Number Ten. Our Political Editor Mark Devenport

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reports from Westminster. If there is a new broom at Downing

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Street and quite a lot of tidying up to do in the wake of the Brexit

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decision. Stormont's leaders used today's meeting to raise their

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concerns about the movement of people and goods across the border

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after the UK leads the EU. There will be more discussions, but as the

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talking goes on, the moment when the Prime Minister will formally trigger

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the UK's departure gets closer. I think she has made it clear that she

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wants to go forward into negotiations with the European Union

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was an understanding and with sure knowledge as to how it is going to

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impact the whole of the United Kingdom. I very much welcome that,

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because what we want to see after we exit the EU is a United Kingdom that

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works for everybody. The test will be how this Prime Minister deals

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with the issues of concern that we have raised through what will be a

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very, I suppose, historic negotiation. That test has yet to be

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accomplished. It is a complex balancing act. The Scottish First

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Minister, Nicola Sturgeon, wants to stay in the European single market.

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She will be keeping a close eye on a flexibility is offered Northern

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Ireland and demanding equal treatment. The position of Northern

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Ireland will be a particular position because Northern Ireland

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will be the one part of the UK with a land border with a country that

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will be remaining inside the European Union. And so it is in...

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Given that fact, there is goodwill and a good spirit from both this

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government and the Republic of Ireland government to ensure that

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arrangements put in place in the future do not entail a return to

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borders of the past. We want this to strengthen the United Kingdom,

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strengthen those very special bonds that bind together each of the

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different nations, and have that at the heart of the government. Over

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the next few months, the Brexit secretary, David Davis, will chair

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meetings in Edinburgh, Cardiff and Belfast, working through the

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nitty-gritty of her leaving the EU will impact on each region. The

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first and Deputy First Ministers say they have heard UK ministers

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acknowledge Northern Ireland unique circumstances. Now, in the months

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ahead, they want the UK Government's actions to match those words. Mark

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Devenport, BBC Newsline, Westminster. A man is in a critical

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condition after being knocked down in Consett iron earlier this

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evening. -- in County Tyrone. Two men and a woman have been

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arrested in Belfast during a police investigation into dissident

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Republican activity. Items were recovered

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following searches at Hamill Street and Foxes Glen in

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the west of the city. The GAA has a revised development

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plan for Casement Park in Belfast. It's ditched the 38,000-seater idea

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for a smaller stadium which it hopes will get

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the approval from local residents. BBC Newsline's Mark

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Simpson reports. It is still a big stadium,

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but rather than having room the proposed new Casement Park

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will have a capacity of 34,500 fans. It is a change, and it is not

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the only one the GAA has planned. We have included terracing capacity

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of 8,500, so the GAA has set aside its ambition for

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an all-seated facility. We have done that because we wanted

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to listen to the community, to address their concerns

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on the scale, height and mass and we genuinely believe

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that this is the day that will be seen as the GAA

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signalling its willingness to listen and we still believe

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we have an iconic facility there were concerns over

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the emergency exits. But the GAA says they believe safety

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experts will approve the new design. We have a high level of confidence

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that they will sign this off in terms of being a vehicle

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that is suitable for achieving the save capacity,

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and in time we will apply to Belfast City Council

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for a safety certificate. They got it wrong last

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time, but have they got

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it right this time? The first application was too big,

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I agree, the stadium was too big. This is a real no-brainer

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and you can see the massive positive impact it is going

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to have in the whole area. For me, the community impact

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is more important than the fact you have got

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a stadium for a few games a year. have been invited to give their view

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on the plans and that is expected

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to happen later this week. The previous plan for a new stadium

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ended up in the courts The GAA are hoping that this

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time will be different and that the new Casement Park

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will be open by the summer of 2020. Passengers on a flight from Belfast

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to the US which had to make

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an emergency landing in Shannon are staying there

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overnight in hotels. They'll continue their journey

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tomorrow. from the International Airport

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to Newark, touched down safely. The pilot declared an emergency

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not long after take-off. Our reporter David Maxwell reports

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from Belfast International. United operate one flight per day

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from here to Newark. This morning, that flight

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took off shortly before 11:20am. It had 121 passengers

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and nine crew on board. it developed a mechanical

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issue to do with landing gear. An emergency was declared and that

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flight headed towards Shannon Before it got there,

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it spent some time at high altitude before conducting a low flight

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over Shannon airport That allowed people on the ground

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to observe the aircraft and make sure everything was OK before

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it made a final approach and landed safely

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shortly before 2:30pm. Those passengers are

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still have to get to Newark. United Airlines say

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they are providing and have apologised for any

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inconvenience caused today. David Maxwell,

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Belfast International Airport. a 30 for a new swimming pool has

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been put on hold while there is public consultation. Swimming clubs

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are among those concerned about the design capacity. There will be more

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on that in the morning. Now, with the weather forecast,

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here's Angie Philips. It has been a start to the weekend

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it is not looking particularly unsettled for much of the week

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ahead. Brighty to begin with, but the winds will turn around and the

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West. It becomes a bit more mobile may be gone. A bit more cloud and

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breeze. Still not an awful lot of rain. Today, the winds have been a

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life with cloud bubbling up. That melt away through the course of the

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night, and as it does the temperatures and started to fall,

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particularly in the countryside. Slightly below freezing in some

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rural areas, giving us quite a bit of frost and some patches of mist

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and fog, particularly across the size and into parts of the West. For

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tomorrow, not a bad day. Dry, from sunshine coming through. But if you

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do have the mist and fog, it is a cold start and it could take a

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little while before it starts to left and the sun went through. If

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fair amount of sunshine across the Republic and much of Scotland,

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Northern England. Cloudier skies, and a few showers to begin with

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across the South of England and the size of Wales. Starting today per

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away. Not too chilly. Some of that cloud starts to move up into the

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Republic of Ireland into the afternoon. I think we will find that

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the sunshine becomes a bit easier in Northern Ireland through the

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afternoon, with some high cloud edging in.

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