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Good evening and welcome to BBC Points West.

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Our headlines tonight: A row over asbestos. Plans are

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approved to bury poisonous rubbish just a mile from Bristol's biggest

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water supply. Get off our roads, Bath councillors

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meet tonight to consider a ban on some HGVs.

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Also tonight, 20-year-old Somerset cider brandy. Toasting his success,

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the Somerset cider producer victorious in the battle to call

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his spirits brandy. And blowing his own trumpet, the

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craftsman who ditched the brass in Hello. Residents living in what's

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been voted Britain's best village are campaigning against council

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plans to dump thousands of tonnes of asbestos on their doorstep just

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over a mile away from a water reservoir. Bath and North East

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Somerset has approved plans to dump the chemical in a disused quarry

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near Chew Magna in Somerset. Locals fear their water supply will be

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contaminated but experts claim the risk is negligible. Isabel Webster

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Reports. A protest walk in Chew Valley this

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afternoon. Over 100 people gathered, their message plain. They're

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opposing a decision by Bath and North East Somerset Council to turn

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nearby Stowey Quarry into an asbestos dumping ground. Permission

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has been granted for 65,000 tonnes of the potentially deadly chemical

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to be deposited here every year. It's 1,500 metres from Chew Valley

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Lake, a major water source. But the council maintain the risk to public

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health is negligible. I can understand people being concerned,

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but I believe the storage will be done in a safe way, and will not be

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harmful to the local environment. The environment agency have fully

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considered the impact of burying asbestos and other hazardous waste

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in this quarry and came back with no objections. But just at the

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bottom of the hill is Chew Valley Lake and Bristol Water, who are

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responsible for it, remain opposed to the plans. Every day 50 million

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litres of water feed out of the lake and into homes in Bristol and

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North Somerset. Bristol Water say the matter is now out of their

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hands. But local residents fear drinking water could become

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contaminated. There is a real danger a good seat into a lake.

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is not just the asbestos, but the other things that might go in, so

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there is a major risk of pollution which could have an effect on our

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health. If asbestos is to be dumped here, the Environment Agency would

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have to be grant a permit. One member of the public though has

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already applied for a judicial review of the council's decision.

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Meanwhile this group say they're fighting not only on behalf of the

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wider community but also for future generations.

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So is there a real risk to public health if permission is granted for

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asbestos to be dumped in this disused quarry? Our Health

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Correspondent Matthew Hill joins us now.

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Matthew, what's your assessment? There is blue and brown, the most

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dangerous which can cause terminal lung cancer in the long term. There

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are safeguards for this application, they would douse it with water when

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it was being dumped to reduce that. The other fear is about it getting

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ingested through water. The Health Protection Agency says the evidence

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about the harm there is unclear. We don't know. What do you make of

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Bristol water's reaction to planning permission being granted?

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They say they found it hard to believe you could guarantee 100%

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this wouldn't reach through the membrane they would be lining this

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quarry with over many years, and the future. They don't want history

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to repeat itself. In the 1990s a water source in Barrow could no

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longer be used because of reaching from a landfill site. Surely the

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Environment Agency would have to take all these factors into

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account? They do. They have employed their

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own expert hydrologists to say the risks are negligible and if

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anything were to happen they would have to go to them again to get

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permission and they would be looking very carefully Aberdeen

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measures in place to make sure any risk was minimised.

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Now there's been much discussion today about our main story last

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night. It centred on the case surrounding a man who posted vile

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and offensive films and comments online about a dead girl from

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Gloucester. Sean Duffy last night began 18 weeks in jail, after

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targeting several grieving families, all strangers he had plucked out of

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cyberspace. In a moment we'll be talking to one of the country's

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leading experts in internet security but first John Maguire

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reminds us of the story. Fleet Street was unanimous in it's

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shock and revulsion today. It has been the subject of BBC radio

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phone-ins too. People will have heard the phrase internet troll.

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But many have been left baffled by the case. Struggling to comprehend

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why 25-year-old Sean Duffy would create the material that he did

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before targeting the grieving parents with his films and comments

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about people he had never met. Lauren Drew's parents were in court

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to see Duffy for the first time and to see him sent to prison for 18

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weeks. This person was hiding behind a computer fault -- hiding

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behind a computer. It is very hard to for a father, you try and

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protect your kids, hopefully nothing will happen to them at what

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happened to us and the rest of the family. One aspect of the case that

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was especially upsetting for Lauren's parents was Duffy's

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persistence. As soon as one page was taken down from YouTube or

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Facebook another would appear in it's place. With global access to

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websites it can be extremely difficult to track down offenders.

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The world wide web celebrates it's 20th birthday this year, that's two

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decades as a force for good, but for many two decades as a force for

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evil. Earlier I spoke to an internet

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security expert, John Carr, and I asked him if people can protect

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themselves against this sort of abuse online. It is not easy to do

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it from a technical point of view. The real answer is vigilance. Are

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seen as you suspect anything of this nature talk to the provider,

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in this case Facebook. Notify them straightaway. They have got some

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great systems in place and if all goes well it should be down and of

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the internet within hours, certainly within 24 hours.

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The problem in this case was it came down but then he boasted more

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vile stuff. Yes. They should be able to flap

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that kind of thing. If he is very clever and very technically of

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knowledge -- knowledgeable, he could be using their teddies and

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addresses, it does make it very hard for them -- using fake ID. 300

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million new pictures go up on Facebook each day. On Google,

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YouTube, every minute of the day 48 hours of new video goes up. So the

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scale of these things does present difficult challenges. Patrols think

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they are anonymous. Obviously in this case the police caught up with

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him. But how anomalous are they? It did this -- it is difficult to do

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anything on the internet without leaving some sort of footprint.

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They can be done but you need to know a great deal of wizardry and

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trickery. But not the kind of knowledge most people don't have.

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Most people think they have been smart by using a fake e-mail

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address or by going to an internet cafe or something of that kind, but

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if the police are sufficiently determined and if they think it is

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a bad enough case, they have got the resources and they can track

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down and locate more or less anybody who does bad stuff online.

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You have put your finger on it. You say people who do really bad stuff.

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In most cases it is low-level abuse, and present staff which the police

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probably don't want to know about. There is a great deal of bullying

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that takes place on the internet that the police never get involved

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with. Even the most of it is probably technically criminal.

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Because they don't regarded as sufficiently Severe they leave it

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alone so it persists and that is a sad aspect of the way these things

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happen. You're watching BBC Points West.

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Yes stay with us, as there's much more still to bring you. Including:

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Selling tea to China - we meet the company doing the unthinkable! And

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find out what will a musician make of this? The brass instrument made

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of wood. Councillors in Bath are meeting

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tonight to discuss plans to ban some lorries going through part of

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the city. The main A36 is used as a short cut between the M4 and the

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south coast. But not everyone is happy about the proposals.

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Neighbouring Wiltshire says it will merely push the problem its way.

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Our Bath reporter Ali Vowles has been looking at the issue.

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Beautiful Bath - World Heritage city, living up to the well worn

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cliche a jewel in the West's crown. But living in such a historic place

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does have its problems. Old buildings that need preserving from

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the effects of heavy traffic. And pollution from the many lorries

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that use Bath's London Road as a short cut to the south. It's

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estimated just over a thousand lorries a day go over Cleveland

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Bridge with half weighing over 18 tonnes. So the Lib Dem run Bath and

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North East Somerset Council is suggesting restrictions at the

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point where the vehicles head south to Warminster. Through traffic will

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not be able to come and turn left just here. If you are delivering to

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Bath that is fine. You can still comment for access but if you are

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over 18 tons and expect to go through this part of Bath you will

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not be able to. They will be illegal to do so. The council say a

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ban will deter long distance lorry drivers and hopefully send them on

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more appropriate routes off the M4 in Wiltshire onto bigger roads

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which can take the traffic. Why do they want us to go 20 miles out of

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their way -- hour wait? You have got to take a longer route so the

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price will go up. Somebody has got to pay for the diesel and wages.

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But with restrictions in Bath likely to happen, neighbouring

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Wiltshire Council says its really concerned about the knock on effect

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of lorries going through villages and towns in its county. Lorries

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that would otherwise come three Bath and out on the Warminster Road

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will be diverted in many cases into towns like Bradford. Also through

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other villages and I know Trowbridge council is also concern.

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The one thing everybody is concerned is doing nothing about

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the traffic problem is not an option. Well the council certainly

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hopes a partial ban here will prove a success and keep lorries that

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shouldn't be in Bath out of the city. But with the police having

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few resources to enforce it and the local authority having no legal

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powers to impose any fines, will lorry drivers even bother to

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listen? The Care Quality Commission has

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been strongly criticised by MPs. The Health Select Committee says

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the watchdog has been spending too much time on administration and not

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enough on inspecting care homes. The CQC has been in the spotlight

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since abuse was uncovered at Winterbourne View, a residential

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home in South Gloucestershire. Chris Skidmore who's the MP for

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Kingswood and a member of the select committee says what happened

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there must not happen again. What we have found is its response to

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Winterbourne View was woefully inadequate and we feel this could

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be the tip of the iceberg in terms of what it has been doing in the

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past year, they have had their priorities are wrong way round,

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haven't focused enough on inspecting care homes and we need

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that sordid as soon as possible. Well the Care Quality Commission

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says it has faced major challenges including a 30% budget cut. It says

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the number of inspections is now on the rise and it will be responding

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formally to the report. 25 people have now been arrested

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following a search of scrap metal yards in the West. On Monday, 300

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officers from Avon and Somerset Police raided 40 dealers and seized

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stolen property. It's believed more than 30 tonnes of metal were

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recovered from copper cables to drain covers.

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Now a Gloucestershire company has achieved the unthinkable it seems -

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Selling tea to China. Only Natural based in Quedgley has seen its

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sales overseas triple in the last 12 months.

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It's now exporting its blends to 45 countries worldwide including the

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cultural home of tea itself, as Another art quite practised in

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Britain is the art of making a good cup of tea. And quite right too,

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some things never change. But if it wasn't for the Chinese Emperor Shen

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Nung back in 2737 BC, who apparently discovered tea, things

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might be different and since then it's China that's had the tea

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market in the bag. We can't really claimed he is our own. Right

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selling fridges to Eskimos, can the British sell TT China? Well it

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seems this Gloucester company is doing just that. They produce 80

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million bags of their herbal teas every year, most of which now go

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around the world. And now it seems their tea has hit the right spot

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with the health conscious Chinese market The company is selling its

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tea to 45 different countries now with varieties such as Lax Plus,

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Liver Detox and Throat Relief, it's tea with an extra kick and it's in

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high demand. The way they see product is different to where we

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sell to in Germany, France, and even the Middle-East and Australia

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where English is the main speaking language. We are making sure we

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have got the right translation and China is looking at the gift of

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Health. They want to buy half the product and give them took -- by

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healthy product and give them as a gift. But then it seems to make

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sense the Brits know how to make a good cuppa, herbal or not, and the

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tourists still lap it up when they get here. We had a lot of Spanish a

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few weeks ago, had to educate them, show them how to do this guns, pour

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the tea, they loved it. They said they don't get anything like it --

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at this cons. Peace was 16, 17- year-old. -- these were 16. But

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what of Emperor Shen Nung? Would he agree with us Brit's selling his

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country herbal tea? Well, probably yes, he was reported to be a

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renowned herbalist with his first discovery was the cleansing

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properties of green tea. Lovely, I will pour. We are lucky the company

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sent us a little bit of English breakfast. Not often you get to

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enjoy a nice cup of tea during a news bulletin. We thought we would

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have a tea break. Set the standard. Tell you what, shower naked to the

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next when first? -- shall we make it to the next item?

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Now, what's in a name? Well a lot if you happen to be a drinks

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producer in Somerset. Julian Temperley produces cider brandy at

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his farm at Kingsbury Episcopi. He's spent years battling other

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brandy producers, mainly Spanish, for the right to the name his

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tipple cider brandy. And finally he's won. Today he was toasting his

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success, as Clinton Rogers found out. Julian and his wife were keen

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to celebrate their success. Of course with cider brandy. They say

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at the naming war in Europe are being lost the company may not have

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survived. I think we would have been in serious trouble. We would

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have managed to potter along for a few years are selling Somerset

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spirits, God knows what we would call it. But we would have had no

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future. Using apples from his Somerset orchards, Julian Temperley

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has been making his cider brandy for the past 25 years. And almost

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since day one he's had more trouble with the name than he's had with

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the recipe. For years now the row has rattled round the corridors of

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the European Union. It was the Spanish who were fighting hardest

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arguing that brandy was a name that belonged to them. This Somerset

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imitation made from apples had no right to the title. But the

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European Commission has finally ruled against them and for Somerset.

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A success with you in the Euro MP has compared to victory over at the

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Spanish Armada. There was a whole armada of brandy producers trying

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to stop things like cider brandy being on the market. On I learned

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about this I to keep up on behalf of Somerset Cider Brandy and after

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four years campaigning we have finally got what is called

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Protected Geographic indication status which means Somerset Cider

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Brandy can continue to be marketed under that name. How about you

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consider exporting it to a Spanish? It is too good for them. He didn't

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bring any back, we'd just got the tea. Now sport and Swindon Town

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continued their good form with victory over promotion favourites

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Crawley. And the win was probably extra sweet for Paolo Di Canio

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because the two managers have been involved in a war of words in the

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build up to the game. Alistair is here, what's this all about? There

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were a few comments made by the two men in their press conferences.

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Crawley's manager had referred to Swindon as the "Paolo Di Canio

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circus", and there some words in response to that. I suppose there

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is some truth to it, there has been a lot of media attention on Swindon

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as a result of Di Canio's appointment, he is the star

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attraction in League Two. What they needed was some substance in terms

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of results to go with it, which they now have. Three wins in a row,

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and a convincing victory over Crawley, the perfect response to

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what had gone before. The centre of attention as always. Swindon's

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ringmaster determined to focus on football rather than personalities.

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And this was just what he wanted beating a highly fancied Crawley

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side who lost at home for the first time in 11 months. After Alan

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Connell had claimed the first, the gloss on the win came from Algerian

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striker Medhi Kerrouche who scored two late goals. Perhaps a little

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harsh on Crawley who'd had plenty of the game. And despite their

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comments in the press this week, the two managers embraced as good

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friends on the final whistle. In League One, Yeovil's second win of

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the season came courtesy of a fantastic strike from Ed Upson, a

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shame there was just over three thousand there to see it. The

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club's lowest ever league crowd. was a real professional performance.

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It won -- it was one we can take great pride from. I think the goal

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was fit to win any game. Back in League Two, Bristol Rovers ended a

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five match wait for a League win. Chris Zebroski pounced to score the

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only goal in the first half. And Cheltenham should have completed a

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quartet of wins for our sides. The led twice first through Josh Low.

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And then Kaid Mohammed restored their lead just before half-time.

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But this long range effort from Kevin Nicholson meant it finished

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as a draw, but Cheltenham are still 5th.

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The Bath City footballer Alex Russell has been discharged from

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hospital, 24 hours after collapsing unconscious before the club's game

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with York. Russell, who suffers from migraines, was on the team

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coach heading north when he fell ill. He was kept in hospital

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overnight, but the club says he is now with his parents in Merseyside.

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In cricket, Gloucestershire have missed out on promotion in the

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County Championship, losing their final match of the season. They

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were bowled out for just 185 in their second innings, meaning

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Northants needed to score just 26 runs for victory. In the end the

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result didn't matter, Surrey gained the second promotion spot after

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winning their match. And some good news for Somerset, Marcus

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Trescothick's chances of being available for Saturday's cup final

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at Lords seem to be improving. He's been back in the practice nets

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trying to prove he's recovered from that ankle injury.

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We save you a cupboard tea. Now it's very special instrument,

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but the big question is, does it belong in the brass or woodwind

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section of an orchestra? Yes, where would you put a handcrafted wooden

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trumpet? It's been made by a man in South Gloucestershire. Jules Hyam

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may have the answer for us. Strings, percussion, easy? Saxophone, a

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woodwind instrument. This of course is a trumpet and they are brass.

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Except that this one is made out of wood. In fact it's made of 120

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pieces of wood, all from the same tree, some rather small, some

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rather delicate, barring the springs and a three internal

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plastic seals - it is all wood and it makes the perfect addition for

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any brass section. Its creator, well he's a hobbyist, George King

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has only been turning wood for four years. I always jumping the depend.

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It is a copy of real trumpet, basically. I wanted it to look like

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wood and not look like a bass trumpet. It is just tactile, lovely

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to work with. As EC, I always liked to do something unusual, different,

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although I still do the normal things, I like to experiment and

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push myself as far as I can. It is extremely intricate and rather

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beautiful but the real test is in how it sounds. A bit better than

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the previous attempt. It is a lot lighter in actual weight. It is

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quite hard to play, compared to a brass trumpet. That is just the

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nature of the material. It is -- it doesn't resonate like a brass

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instrument would. But it does play, and it does sound like a trumpet. I

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think I will stick to picking up a couple -- putting up a couple of

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shelves. And now the weather, we were

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looking for pictures to illustrate People outside the B B T here have

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certainly got a few today. -- outside the BBC building. They are

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going to have to close the junction of Whiteladies Road with a branch

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that has come down. This photograph was taken by Hayley who is running

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the ball to keep this evening. Certainly showing the effects of

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the wind at Portishead. We are not expecting much in the way of wind

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tomorrow. Anything but, distinctly light wind and a settled and Friday

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to come with variable amounts of sunshine. Compare and contrast how

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the temperatures were almost at 20 at dawn at the start of the week

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and how by tomorrow they will be getting pretty cold. Certainly cold

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enough for ground frost. All courtesy of high pressure. This

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week occlusion will bring more cloud for a while. Tomorrow under

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the influence of that high pressure cell which means it will be a

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:26:28.:26:28.

settled day. A good deal of clear sky across central district. A lot

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of the crowd will disperse as the night wears on. You will find it is

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a recipe for a cold night and a foggy one as well. Temperatures

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getting cold. Even in urban areas be heating might be getting

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switched on. Tomorrow, once we cleared the fog, there will be a

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good deal of blue sky. He would generally be fairly well broken.

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Present conditions in the light wind. It will feel that way if

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you're out and have backed -- out and about. It is an unsettled theme

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as we run three Friday into the weekend. Turning quite blustery. As

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