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Welcome to Wales Today. Tonight: The UK Government promises the

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Welsh Government borrowing powers. We'll lend you the cash if you can

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pay it back through taxes. It's A glimpse of the future? How

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buildings could be turned into mini Are programmes like Strictly too

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saucy? The Mothers' Union says they've had enough steam on screen.

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The fashion for fur brought it to the UK. Now, moves to protect our

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wildlife from the destructive mink. And the family row that's led to

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the famous Clark's pie being sliced Good evening. The Welsh Government

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will, in principle, get the power to borrow money to fund big

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projects like motorways and railways in the future. But the

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deal between the Welsh and UK governments is dependent on

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Ministers here raising some money through taxes. The exact details

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have yet to be ironed out. Plaid Cymru say there's so little detail

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the deal is more half-baked than historic. Here's our political

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editor, Betsan Powys. Is this a serious deal that marks a

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major step forward for Wales or an agreement in principle for not very

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much? For the defence, two governments and three political

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parties to save the agreement means the Welsh Government will one day

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get to borrow money to improve Wales's creaking infrastructure if

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that only if it shows first how it can pay back the money. Today we

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have reached the point where we can say we are going to get borrowing

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powers. You may be getting borrowing powers. We are going to

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get borrowing powers. This is the Treasury saying Wales will get

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borrowing powers. They recognise we have been disadvantaged by the way

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they have funded us. What you borrow you must repay, so the

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agreement is this. If the commission recommends next month

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that tax-raising powers should be devolved to Wales, that would bring

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in revenue against which ministers can borrow. With so many questions

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and so few certainties, was the chief secretary to the Treasury

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wrong to use words like historic? Have you ever had a Treasury

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minister at the Welsh Government building before saying there will

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be borrowing powers for the Welsh Assembly? There will the revenue-

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raising powers. We have put in place for the first time a joint

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and Open collaborative process to assess the spending situation.

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prosecution had a stern in the Assembly this afternoon. This

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agreement did no more than tinker with a funding former that leaves

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Wales short-change, said Plaid Cymru. I can't join if the

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agreement on whether this is a good deal for Wales or not. I think this

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is an awful deal for Wales. This has the pores of the Treasury

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written all over it. Spending big money on building projects has

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always been seen by governments as a tool to help them create jobs and

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growth. That is what ministers want to achieve. But others see a deal

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in principle over something fade- out is a good idea in the first

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place. If you borrow, you have got to pay the interest. Where is the

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money going to come from to pay the interest? You either have to cut

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back on existing expenditure or you have to find a new revenue sources.

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Most striking of all today, the sight of three politicians from

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three different parties smiling together. Though one could not help

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but make a final critical point. This is a more detailed, more

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substantive agreement on these matters than you ever saw when it

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A sign that political sensitivities are never far below the service

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after all. How do you assess the significance

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of this deal? You can look at it and see something that barely

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tinkers with the way Wales will be funded in the future. It might make

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sure that Wales loses out a little less as the economy starts to grow.

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But you also confirming that the formal or is there to stay. If you

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look at borrowing powers, you can see something that amounts to a

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show of goodwill between two governments. On the other hand, you

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can look at it and see a plan of kinds to make sure that in the

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future Wales this get borrowing powers. It was very clear that the

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UK government was keen that the commissioners who will be

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recommending which taxes they think was to be devolved to Wales should

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be ambitious. They should go pretty far. So where does that put the

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focus? It puts on those Commissioners, what they say next

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month, which taxes they think ought to be devolved, and also on Carwyn

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Jones and his government. Do they want those devolved? Thank you very

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much indeed. An investigation's underway after a

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15-year-old boy was seriously injured when a wall collapsed on

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him at Monmouth Leisure Centre. Daniel Morgan, who's a pupil at the

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comprehensive school right beside the centre, was getting ready for a

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games lesson when a concrete partition wall in the changing room

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fell on him yesterday afternoon. Fire crews took an hour to free him.

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He's currently in a critical but stable condition in hospital.

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My thoughts are with Daniel and we wish him a speedy recovery. But

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also, I want to understand what has happened.

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This morning we had an Assembly with all this appears so that we

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could all come together and share our thoughts and feelings and make

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sure Daniel is at the forefront of our minds.

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Sixty jobs are under threat at a paper-towel factory in Flint.

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Kimberly Clark is considering the closure of its Delyn Mill plant as

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part of a restructuring process. It could cease production by the end

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of next year. Workers at the company's other Flint factory, the

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Coleshill mill, are unaffected. A former serviceman and miner has

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been found guilty of sexually assaulting four young girls between

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1949 and 1973. Reginald Davies, who's now 78, was found guilty of

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13 offences, including two charges of rape. He committed the crimes in

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South Wales over a 24 year period in what's believed to be one of the

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oldest criminal cases in UK legal history. He was extradited from

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Western Australia in September. Two men killed when a light plane

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crashed near an airport in Powys died accidentally, an inquest jury

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has ruled. 60-year-old Bob Jones, the founder of Mid Wales Airport,

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and 55-year-old Steven Carr, from Ruthin, were killed when a twin-

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engine plane crashed on Long Mountain near Welshpool. An

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investigator said the accident could have been caused by cloud

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obscuring trees or part of the controls jamming.

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Turning buildings into mini power stations is the idea which could

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revolutionise construction and how we use energy in buildings in

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future. Well, a pilot manufacturing facility built by Swansea

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University and Tata Steel is already in place. The invention is

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to create a coating on metal and glass which can be used as cladding

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on buildings, but could also store and generate electricity. More from

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our environment correspondent, Iolo ap Dafydd.

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It is easy to see in Baglan how electricity and diesel are to be

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drivers moving our economy. Both sources of power come at an

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increasing costs and this facility host to provide a ground-breaking

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development in generating energy and conserving it. The idea is to

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capture and harness solar energy and you sit on metal and glass

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cladding outside buildings. A special coating would store and

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generate power inside offices, factories, schools and hospitals.

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The first generation of Coatings we have already deployed at full-scale

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on buildings. The results are very encouraging. They have cut the

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energy consumption. They have her that I up to 50 % and that has

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provided a very Economic attractive offer. Now comes the hard part. If

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to expand the invention to an industrial scale. Swansea

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University and its partners, including Tata Steel, have been

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given �12 million to turn this into a commercial reality and to create

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jobs. I would like to see a significant number of jobs being

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created over the next five years. We know this is the technology of

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the future and we know we are at the front in terms of developing it.

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According to those behind the idea, this could develop into a billion-

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pound industry and create around 10,000 jobs in South Wales. If all

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this works, we are talking about a new industry complete with ideas

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from business and academics working together. It will be a boost to the

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manufacturing industry. It could turn over a billion pounds a year.

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And, it is very important for energy conservation, helping with

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the environment. Near the steelworks in Port Talbot, an

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office block has an early form of tagging along one wall but it is

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convincing businesses how it could cut energy costs that will

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determine if this new industry really does make it big.

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Still to come: Tracking the mink to protect Welsh

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wildlife - fears they're spreading into new areas.

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It is quite worrying that we have found a female because that could

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be a sign that they are starting to establish themselves.

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The Welsh branch of the Mothers' Union is launching a campaign

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urging people to protest against sexual images and swearing which

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they say is being broadcast before the watershed. As part of the

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national Bye Buy Childhood campaign, they're asking people to contact

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the regulator Ofcom if they see material which they consider

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unsuitable for children. They've printed up thousands of postcards

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to encourage people to put their complaints in writing. Caroline

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It is family viewing for millions that shows like this one are some

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of the programmes which, according to the Christian charity, Hugh

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Mothers' Union, have overstepped the mark. Children copy them. They

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imitate the adults and what they see on television. We don't think

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it is appropriate. It does not have many -- very much to do with a

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dancing to see their flesh. And it is swearing to which these members

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say is so commonplace, if most people don't notice it any more.

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Today, if they launched a postcard campaign. The idea is to encourage

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people to complain if they see something a shame -- thing should

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not have been on television before the watershed off by posting the

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details Youth Ofcom. There are 9,000 members of the Mothers' Union

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in Wales. We feel this is very important to everybody. To the

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Mothers' Union in general but also to parents. Anyone who is concerned

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at are the specialisation and commercialisation of children.

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These students were analysing the morals of a bygone age in jade

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Austin's pride and prejudice today. What do they think? The shock value

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just to get that he was in. It is not really bad. They need to be

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more careful. A lot of the cartoons to involve grotesque imagery. You

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have blood and violence and they do show them to younger kids. I don't

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think it is the adult programmes, it is the cartoons. The Mothers'

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Union say they have already met lots of people across Wales who say

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they are appalled by what they have seen on television before 9 o'clock.

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They have printed 10,000 postcards for distribution.

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Dozens of people have taken part in a protest against proposed changes

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to health services at Withybush Hospital. It comes after Hywel Dda

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Health Board said the hospital's special baby care unit does not

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meet national standards and proposes centralising the service

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at Carmarthen. While three wards have been closed at the hospital

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following an outbreak of diarrhoea and vomiting, the acute coronary

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unit and the coronary care unit are shut and visiting is restricted.

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The Boundary Commission for Wales has announced more changes to

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parliamentary constituencies. The UK Government wants to lower the

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number of MPs here from 40 to 30 and asked the commission to redraw

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the parliamentary map. It's made changes to its original proposals,

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but they may not come into effect as the Liberal Democrats have said

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they will block them at Westminster. Labour say the commission's work

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could cost more than a million pounds and is a waste of money.

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The Welsh Government has warned chewing gum manufacturers that they

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have one last chance to deal with the litter problems caused by

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discarded gum before the Government takes action. The warning came as

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AMs rejected proposals that would have imposed a 5p litter levy on

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sales of gum. This creature is usually bad news

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for other wildlife. The Amercian mink is a huge problem in many

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areas across Britain but, on Anglesey, they've managed to keep

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it at bay. But that could be about to change. In the past, the

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creature has been found close to the bridges linking the island to

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the mainland, but the latest to be caught is causing a headache.

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Here's Aled Hughes. This conservation team has one

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simple aim. Stopping the American mink from breeding on Anglesey. The

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first step is to find areas where they are. We are setting up a new

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raft. We are going to put this in a basket on the top. So this is not

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to track the mink? They like going through tunnels. They will sweep

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the clay of here and leave footprints. This is why they are

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here in the first place. 1930s Britain, high-society enjoined what

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was seen as the finer things in life. Fur coats with the designer

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item. But the Minx estate to many parts of the UK. They could be at

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due 37,000 in the wild. Anglesey caught its first in 2005. But it is

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one of the only places in Britain it has not colonised. But until

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recently, the only mink caught on the island were found close to the

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mainland. Recently though, a female American mink was found much

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further north on the island than ever before and that could be a

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problem. It means there is even more urgency in the works this team

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does. We are fairly concerned that we found when so far north,

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especially a female, because you would expect to get male's first

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because they travel further. It is quite worrying that we found a

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female because that could be a sign that they are starting to establish

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themselves. All this is them to save the habitat and his native

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creature. Once the mink sets up home, the funerals who manages --

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vanishes. The work is vital to try and combat a problem that was

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fuelled by the fashion for third over 80 years ago.

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Well, we're now joined by Welsh wildlife expert, Dr Rhys Jones.

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You've seen what minks can do to other animal colonies. Tell us how

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damaging it can be? They are damaging because they are not

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native to this country and the animals that have grown up here

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have no natural defence to deal with a mink. If you can imagine, if

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you have got he wrote and on a water tank and it sees a bird of

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prey flyover, a nose to get into the water. But the problem we have

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got is that the mink are better swimmers and they can follow the

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creatures into their own tunnels and kill them. No defence

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whatsoever. But it is not just the mink that is a troublemaker. Not at

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all. You can imagine how many ferrets get released. So we have

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got American crayfish, Japanese shrimps, we have got all sorts.

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what about the plants? We have heard a lot about Japanese knotweed

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in the past. It is a bit like a bamboo, if you like, in its

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structure, but it can grow more efficiently than any other plants

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around it so it eclipses all of our native species and you just get

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this desert of Japanese knotweed. And a Himalayan species which has

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just come into seed. Each plant grows to around three metres tall.

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The seeds are produced in little explosive hence. If you and I were

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walking in the countryside and we rushed past one of these capsules,

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it would explode, and each one can produce around 800 seats and they

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get scattered at 27 metres away from the plant. For so what chance

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do the conservationists have question marks --? It cost the

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British economy around �1.7 billion annually.

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Cardiff City broke a new record last night. For the first time in

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the club's history, they've won their opening six home league games

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of a season. They came from behind to beat nine-man Watford.

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Substitute Aaron Gunnarson scored the winner in stoppage time. The

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three points keeps them second in the Championship table on goal

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difference behind Leicester. My message at half-time was to be

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calm, keep moving the ball quickly, and we had a chance after chance.

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At one point, it seemed as if it was never going to going.

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Two sides of a family who have been making Clark's Pies in Cardiff for

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nearly a century are involved in a branding dispute which means one

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half of the business has had to re- name its pies. The disagreement

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involves the descendants of Mary Clark, who began making meat and

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The they are part of the fabric of the city that the Clark's Pies

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family business, at least as it has been known in Cardiff for decades,

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is being carved up. In this bakery, the latest batches are put together.

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If the process looks simple but the recipe has never been made public.

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The day care in charge here is the great-great-grandson of the founder,

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Mary Clarke. There are few places which have made the pies over the

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years. Her in a gentleman's agreement, if you reverse drew a

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line down the mark in the middle of the city to work out who supplied

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which fit. This bakery opened in 1955. And on the other side of the

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family, this is two miles away and it was opened in 1931. It was

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called Clark's Pies for around 30 years. It is now called the

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Victoria Park tie company and that rebranding is when the problem

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started. In the other bakery, they say they rebrand has led to

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confusion among customers and, to make matters worse, there has been

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a breakdown of communication. deeply saddens us, we have always

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felt the Clark's Pies have been a community high. To split Cardiff

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like this is a shame. On this side of Cardiff, they say they rebranded

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to differentiate themselves. She has been told by trading standards

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she can't call her eyes Clark's Pies despite making them on the

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same premises for 80 years. Reluctantly, I cannot use the brand

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due to a trademark dispute. It has been a very difficult decision for

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us to make their decision to rebrand. It was not taken lightly.

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One thing both sides agree on, this is a rather sad chapter in the long

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history of Clark's Pies. Most places have been grey and

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gloomy again today but the northwest, the west coast and the

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southwest were brighter with a southwest were brighter with a

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little sunshine. Mumbles Head in Swansea was one of the warmest

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places in Britain with a high of 17 degrees Celsius. Mind you, the mild

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air is on its way out and cold air from the Arctic is going to filter

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south by Friday, bringing a big drop in temperature. Tonight, still

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mild. Cloudy for most. Spots of light rain and drizzle with hill

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fog. Drier in the west. Lowest temperatures of nine to 13 degrees

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Celsius. Tomorrow's chart shows high pressure over Iceland with a

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cold front moving south across Britain. So, tomorrow, another grey,

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cloudy start for much of the country. Dry on the north coast but

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further south dull and damp in places. Spots of light rain and

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drizzle. Mist and hill fog as well. Dry on the west coast and breezy in

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Cardigan. During the day it will remain mostly cloudy A little rain

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or drizzle in the south and east. The north should become dry and

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brighter. Perhaps a little sunshine in Meirionnydd. Temperatures a

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little lower than today. 11 to 14 degrees Celsius. Breezier too, with

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an east to north-easterly wind. On Anglesey tomorrow, it will be dry.

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The cloud breaking with glimpses of sunshine. Breezy in Amlwch with

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temperatures in Llanerchymedd rising to 12 degrees Celsius.

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Tomorrow night, spots of light rain in the south will eventually clear.

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Elsewhere it will be dry. The cloud breaking and turning colder. Friday

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will be a colder day, but much drier and brighter. We'll all see

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some sunshine for a change. Temperatures below average with a

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noticeable wind chill. Jack Frost will be out and about on Friday

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night. Saturday will be cold, bright and crisp with plenty of

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sunshine. Sunday will be cloudier but less cold. Windier too with a

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little rain. Our picture tonight is from Lance Tucker in the Brecon

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Beacons. Thanks, Lance. If you're going walking on Friday or Saturday,

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Horses straying onto busy roads or trespassing in private fields in

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search of food has proved a major headache for the police and animal

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welfare charities across South Wales. On tomorrow night's

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programme, we'll be looking at the problem of so-called fly-grazing.

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Tom Price, one of the largest breeders of gypsy horses in Wales,

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defends the way he looks after his animals.

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We have the skill of an adult horse which literally starve to death. It

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is one of four in this field alone. How seriously do you take animal

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welfare? I would feed those horses before I feed myself. There is no

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animal I have got that I will not feed. Whether it is a chicken, a

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dog, a cat. The Chief Constable of West

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Yorkshire has resigned. She has been under pressure since an

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independent report accused police of trying to cover up their

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failings in the aftermath of the Hillsborough disaster. He was Chief

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Inspector of South Yorkshire police at the time and has always denied

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any wrongdoing. The Welsh Government will, in

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principle, get the power to borrow money to fund major projects in the

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future. But the deal before the Welsh and UK governments is

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dependent on ministers here gracing some money through taxes. --

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raising. We'll have a quick update at 8pm

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