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Welcome to Wales Today. Tonight: A special report on the starving

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horses roaming parts of south Wales. We uncover evidence of neglected

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animals being left to die. In an exclusive interview with one of the

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main breeders in Wales, he denies Also on the programme:

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The changing face of Cardiff. Plans for the largest expansion of the

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city in 60 years. Messages for April Jones. Not

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forgotten among classmates. The five year old has been missing for

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24 days. It is getting harder as the weeks are getting on. The

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children know Christmas is coming and things like that. The questions

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are getting harder. We may be out of recession, but

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what hope of a job for these apprentices?

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And celebrating Africa's links with Wales. The rapturous welcome for

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Archbishop Desmond Tutu. It was so rousing. Be touched my heart very

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Good evening. The Welsh government has told Wales Today it's

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considering new laws to deal with the problem of stray horses. It

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follows widespread reports of unscrupulous owners breeding huge

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numbers of animals they simply can't afford to keep or feed. It

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leads to a problem known as fly- grazing. There are claims one

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breeder of gypsy cobs is allegedly using threats and intimidation to

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take over family farms so his horses have somewhere to graze.

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Nick Palit has been investigating this story over the last few months.

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You may find pictures in his report distressing.

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Fields of the forgotten of foals far away from prying eyes. Here,

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only the strongest survive. Those who are weak or go hungry for and

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die. This is the annual welfare cost of horse-breeding that has

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been allowed to continue and regulated. I first reported on this

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earlier this year. That is when horses are left to graze on other

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people's land or common land, often breaking out on to the public

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highway in search of food. Those trying to help the animals say they

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daren't speak on camera for fear of reprisals from owners. They took me

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on a tour of fields around Bridgend where I was met by horrific scenes.

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Here, the skill of an adult course that literally starved to death. It

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is one of four when this very field alone. And three dead phones. A

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graphic illustration of the problems that chocolate -- fly-

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grazing is causing. The RSPCA say calls about forces is their biggest

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issue in parts of South Wales. The charity released this picture of

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four dead phones dumped with rubbish. We have blurred the image

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as it was so distressing. It is not clear how they died. For the police,

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straight courses with the biggest problem until now. But as the

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number of horses continues to rise, unscrupulous owners has debt to a

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gear in their search for a free grazing land. Fly-grazing seems to

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have become a business model employed by some gypsy breeders to

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take over control of land on family farms from their rightful owners.

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This is often done through threats and intimidation. Now one man has

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had the courage to speak out. have had to pay rent on the ground

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on the will not take his horses away. He is a second generation,

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who has worked this land for more than half a century. He is

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embroiled in a dispute with a credo of Welsh gypsy horses. He was

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driving. He had his son here. He was in my face, shouting at me, we

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are putting our horses here. It is our farm, we can do what we like.

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His family had some business dealings with gypsy traders in the

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past, so when he first allowed the man to run gun for his forces, he

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believed all would be well. But the numbers grow to 160 are many asked

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for them to be removed, the man refused. He alleges that threats

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then followed. I have had no money off him. I don't know which way to

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turn. By have been very down. You feel like sometimes you just want

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to end it. It has been hard on my family, as well. By have got two in

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daughters and my wife. She can see the difference in me. It has

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virtually ruined by business. farm houses now a virtual fortress.

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The police have installed alarms on doors and windows. If I press the

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button, it will go straight to the police station. That is for my

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mother. Plus they put fire alarms and smoke detectors in here. Tammy

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what it has been like living like this. -- tell me what it has been

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like. Murder. It is worrying to think we have got to live like this.

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We are blamed for everything and it is not true. We wanted to talk to

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him about the allegations, but initially, he refused to comment.

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Finally, after months of pursuing him, he decided to tell his side of

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the story. He said he had a gentleman's agreement and has paid

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rent for the land until next September. I have been paying him

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�10,800 for those fears for I don't know how long exactly, but at least

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12 years. It has been OK until he has been offered more money. Isn't

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that business? Yes, but you don't spit on the people who have been

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good to you. He said the horses are there now because of threats and

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intimidation by you. Why doesn't go to the police? He said he has and

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he has had to put in security measures. That is a lot of rubbish.

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We have had to go to the police because he is letting our horses

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out on the road. The police have had to put in panic alarms by

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actions by yourself and your family. It is not by me and my family. We

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have not been there for 12 months. For you to remove your horses from

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his land, what would he have to do? I am not moving them until the

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first of 20th September 13. When that comes up, I will go. Could he

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pay you back to get him of their sooner? The I don't want the money,

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I want the ground. There are people all over the Vale and Bridgend who

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have dealings with horses and fly- grazing. I cannot help but if

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somebody has not got any gets. I'm not afraid of anybody, but I don't

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want any trouble. All I want to do is be left to get on with what I

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want to do. The Conservative leader in the Assembly is a farmer and

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says annual welfare and intimidation are not the only

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issues and has urged police to investigate in -- investigate

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claims that some horse-trading is linked to a criminality and tax

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evasion. Instead of hard cash trading hands, a certain number of

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horses would change hands. That concerns me. That is out of the

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barometer of law and I would hope that the authorities would look

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into the issue. It is clear that comprises not responsible for all

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the gypsy horses that have the welfare issues, but with estimates

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of up to 100 -- 1000 horses under his stewardship, it is hard for him

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to take track of all of them. How seriously do you take annual

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welfare? I would feed the horses before I feed myself. Legislation

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it be put in place to address the issue because the current

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legislation is bound to be wanting. Mr Davies hopes to raise the issue

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in the Assembly and has drafted a proposed and not offer before

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consideration. South Wales Police so they continue to work with our

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partners to tackle this ongoing problem but in the meantime, some

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unscrupulous horse traders fear that the law, invade the taxman and

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have scant regard for Animal Welfare.

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I'm joined now from Monmouthshire by Jenny MacGregor, who's chair of

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the Society for the Welfare of Horses and Ponies, looking after

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rescued animals. As the law stands, all horses are supposed to be

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micro-chipped. That came in three years ago, but that clearly isn't

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happening. Sadly not. Because the law is there,

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but it is just not being enforced. What has gone wrong? I think you

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probably have to ask the various bodies that are responsible for

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making a law work. By gather that it is mainly the trading standards.

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So probably, you had best ask them that question. But problems have

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you seen on the ground? Our problem is that when we come across an

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annual that is in the dummy on the really taking the sick and injured

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and malnourished, is we never cannot find an owner. And so, if

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they were microchip, and registered with a central database because

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sadly, the ruck some microchips that are being bought and put in

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that aren't registered anywhere except the owner knows that there

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are his. So that has to be tightened up on the law has to be

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enforced. Some horses will no change hands for as little as �5.

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We can see that force behind do you behaving himself. Tell us his story.

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We were asked by the local county council to take him in. He was only

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five months old and was in a field with a lot of others. He had not

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got a mother and he was being bullied. He could never get to the

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fruiter that was probably inadequate anyway, but he was

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looking very sorry for himself. And so we said we were taking in and

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after five months, when he was five months, he has grown to what he is

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now, which is a lovely little chap. Some are not as lucky. Boyd -- why

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are so many people breeding horses? I suspect it is Grade, mainly.

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Because for whatever reason, they managed to sell some of them for

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large sums of money. I think it is irresponsible. As I have always

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said to anybody that breeds a lot, you have got to have a plan. When

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you break them, you have got to know what the future is. Thank you

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very much. More on that Welsh government

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response tonight. The Deputy Minister responsible for

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agriculture says he wants to meet the police and local councils to

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discuss the problem. On tomorrow night's programme, in the second of

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Nick Palit's special reports, he'll be looking at the ongoing welfare

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issues. He found a horse being kept in the backyard of a small terraced

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house. On a brighter note, we'll hear from those involved in a

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fostering scheme helping nurse neglected animals back to health.

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Councillors in Cardiff are voting tonight on plans for the biggest

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expansion of the city since the 1950s. If they're approved, the

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number of new homes in the city could rise by a quarter over the

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next 14 years. But there are big concerns, as our business

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correspondent Nick Servini reports. Cardiff has seen plenty of boom

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times in the past. These images from the 1960s show how the capital

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had grown after the war. Now, the council says it plans a rate of

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growth not seen in decades. Under these projections, 38,000 new homes

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could be built between now and 2026. On the population will increase by

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58,000. That is about the size of the population of the County

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Borough of Merthyr. Big changes are ahead. But do people want them?

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roads are not as good as they used to be. There are so many cards on

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the -- cars on the road. They have got to have more housing, but I do

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not agree with the fact that they are taking over the green. There is

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plenty of inner-city housing where they can build. There is a shortage

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of houses in Cardiff. And I think they should carry on with it.

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proposals include two large developments on green field sites.

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8,000 homes in the north-east of the city, seven and half 1000 in

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the West and more homes again on the western edge. If a city is

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going to become what we want to be, which is a city of global renown, a

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European capital city, then it has to grow. Cities that do not grow

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died. Expansion in Cardiff is proportionately bigger than many of

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its neighbouring authorities. So, is the capital taking on too much?

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Politically, it is impossible for Cardiff to accommodate all of the

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future growth in homes. Politically impossible. Because it would

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involve building on green space. And local people will resent that

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and they will protest. And therefore, I think we should make a

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virtue of necessity and split the growth between the City and at the

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neighbouring at authorities in the region. The rush hour this morning.

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It is a reminder that more people will put pressure on a transport

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infrastructure that is already stretched by more than 70,000

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people who commute into the city every day. There are some serious

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warnings in the is plans about increases in future traffic

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congestion. Average the journey times by car could increase by as

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much as 40%. So the main focus for investment by the council is going

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to be a into bus lanes. But of course, the flipside to that is

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that there is less capacity on the roads for cars. Tonight's vote is

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not the end of the matter. There will now be a public consultation

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and more detailed work before the first brick is laid.

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Police have made a renewed appeal for information following a fire in

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Prestatyn which killed four members of the same family. Detectives want

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to hear from people nearby, especially those who may have

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filmed the fire on a mobile phone. 20-year-old Lee-Anna Shiers, her

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15-month-old son Charlie, four- year-old nephew Bailey Allen and

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two-year-old niece Skye died after the blaze on Friday.

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Dyfed-Powys Police are appealing for information after a 19-year-old

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woman was sexually assaulted within the grounds of Lampeter University.

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It happened in the early hours of Tuesday morning. Police are looking

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for a man described as 5ft 6 with short brown hair and aged between

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17 and 25 years old. 24 days since April Jones went

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missing and police say the intensity of their search for the

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five year old continues. 17 teams are scouring more than 300

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locations around Machynlleth, a town still coming to terms with her

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disappearance. Hywel Griffith reports.

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At first light, they start again. After more than 44,000 hours of

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searching, there is still no end to the biggest police operation in a

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quarter of a century. What is remarkable is the officers from all

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over the country who have come here should -- here a desire to find

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April Jones. We here the same common goal. And you know her

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family are watching and waiting. Absolutely. April Jones went

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missing on October 1st. She had been playing with friends outside

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her home. A man has been charged with her abduction and murder.

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Sharratt April Jones's school, they have been trying to find ways to

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help the children express the emotions they have been feeling

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over the last rain half weeks. This area has been set aside for them to

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come and sit quietly and reflect. Some children are three and a half.

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They are not even writing. Every pupil has made a message. The head

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teacher has been trying to slowly bring back some kind of normality

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to school life. Outside in the town, it is not normal. It is getting

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harder as the weeks are going on and the children are asking about,

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they know Christmas is coming and the questions are getting harder.

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Throughout the time -- town, pink ribbon still decorate every corner,

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showing the have many cling to. the stick, our thoughts are still

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with the family. We still have hope that she is out there and will be

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brought home to us. Nobody knows how and when it is it will end, but

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24 days in, no one is prepared to give up yet.

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Celebrating Africa's links with Wales. A special performance to

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welcome Archbishop Desmond Tutu. is amazing that a small part of

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that the world such as Wales should have the this Wales for Africa

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So the UK has officially climbed out of recession, now businesses in

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Wales are assessing what that means for them. Four out of 10 working

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men here are employed in one of the strongest growing sectors,

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manufacturing. But Wales also suffers from high levels of youth

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unemployment and there aren't enough jobs for our young people to

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go into. Our Economic Correspondent Sarah Dickins looks at the

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situation on the ground. In the heart of Pill, Newport

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docklands, this small company has been supplying local builders for

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more than 80 years. In the 90s' boom, they expanded to Blackwood

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and Ebbw Vale. But then the financial crisis hit and families

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put off their building plans. and has 1009 were difficult times,

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but in 2010 and 2011, we felt that we had come through the bows of it

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and have slowly started to reinvest. It is often said builders are a

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great barometer of what is really going on and the economy. This

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company is particularly that. It tips cent of their customers are

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small local builders and they know when people stop and start spending

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money. This company in the summer took the brave step of opening a

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new depot in Cardiff. It's cost the company �750,000.

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Some cash of their own and a loan from the bank, a brave decision in

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the middle of a double-dip recession. We did worry, but we

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kept believing that we could succeed here. We are confident that

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we will do that. One of areas of the strongest

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growth is production and in particular, manufacturing. Both

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very important to the Welsh economy. Ironically, today's output figures

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show construction as a whole across the UK has shrunk by another 2.5%

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in the three months to the end of September. In Bridgend, these

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apprentices to the building trade are not upbeat about their chances

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in the economy. I am nervous. Because the economy is going down,

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we are not getting the work. The money is not coming through. It is

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getting less and less opportunities for anyone. Modern apprenticeships

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are the best way to get people into work. The Welsh Government clearly

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agrees. Some argue the process also needs to be simpler. The Welsh

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Government needs to change the Psyche and pay-offs -- of Sony to

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give greater support for small businesses will want to take

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apprenticeships on so they do not feel they are faced with a mountain

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of form-filling and baroque receipt. The Welsh economy is significantly

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weaker than the UK as a whole. bureaucracy. The fact that we are

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now officially out of recession may well built a little confidence and

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A fund set up to support the children of 31-year-old Karina

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Menzies who died during a series of hit-and-run incidents in Cardiff

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last Friday has seen a boost from stars of screen and stage. Actors

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Hugh Grant, Sir Ian McKellen and Frances Barber have helped raise

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�5,000 for the fund. Grant joined another bidder to buy a lunch with

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Sir Ian and Barber at a Labour Party fundraising dinner last night.

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The chairman of the Forestry Commission has criticised the new

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body that will replace the Environment Agency Wales, the

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Countryside Council for Wales and Forestry Commission. John Owen

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Jones says it will lack the commercial expertise which existed

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previously. It has now been formally named Natural Resources

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Wales and the government says it will provide better outcomes for

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the people of Wales. 450,000 people listen to BBC Radio

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Wales every week, according to the quarterly RAJAR survey of listening

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habits. That's 29,000 down on this time last year. There's been an

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increase in Radio Cymru's listenership. The station's share

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went up by 11,000 since the last quarter.

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He's a veteran of countless campaigns and one of the most

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outspoken critics of the apartheid regime. Desmond Tutu has been in

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Wales to celebrate our links with Africa. The Archbishop visited a

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school, hospital and charity projects. Our reporter Rhodri Lewis

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A rapturous reception greeted Archbishop Desmond Tutu as he

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arrived for the first stop of the day at Ysgol Plasmawr in Cardiff

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He was here to learn more about Plasmawr's close links with a

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school in Lesuthu, all part of the Wales for Africa movement which

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It is amazing that a small part of the world such as Lesuthu should

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have this Wales for Africa project where they are doing outstanding

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work in Uganda, they have got it working in Lesuthu. And we have

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just seen some of the word that they are doing near Cape Town.

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veteran of the anti-apartheid struggle in South Africa, he's

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still active in numerous campaigns, ranging from HIV/AIDS to human

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rights. It inspired me a lot to be a better person. But he was really

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inspiring. I think that his visit will make our bond with Lesuthu a

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lot stronger. He came into the hall and said the most inspiring speech,

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telling us we have the ability as young people to inspire within the

:23:40.:23:45.

next century. This afternoon, the Archbishop visited the Valleys Kids

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charity in Penygraig in the Rhondda. They performed a drama for him,

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which they're taking on tour to South Africa next week. He is so

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small, but such a huge person. And to have him here has been a dream

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of a lifetime. It has been wonderful. Amazing. Many of the

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young people performing today were born since the end of apartheid. In

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the light of recent violence back home, Desmond Tutu said though some

:24:13.:24:22.

things there could be better, they things there could be better, they

:24:22.:24:24.

could also be a great deal worse. A taste of winter's on the way.

:24:24.:24:34.
:24:34.:24:39.

Derek, how cold is it going to get? There is an Arctic plunge on the

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way. Temperatures are going to drop in the next 24 hours. The good news

:24:44.:24:48.

is we can all look forward to some sunshine for a change. It's already

:24:48.:24:51.

turning colder in Scotland and that cold air is going to flow south

:24:51.:24:54.

across the whole of Britain and Ireland by the end of Friday. So a

:24:54.:24:58.

big change on the way. For tonight, plenty of cloud. A few spots of

:24:58.:25:01.

light rain and drizzle. Becoming dry and clearer in the north and

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turning colder. Temperatures in Ewloe dropping to four Celsius.

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Tomorrow's chart shows high pressure south of Iceland with a

:25:06.:25:09.

blast of cold north-easterly winds for Britain. So tomorrow morning,

:25:09.:25:14.

you will notice the drop in temperature when you step outside.

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The good news is it will be dry. And the low cloud, mist and gloom

:25:18.:25:21.

will have gone. Much clearer compared to recently with improved

:25:21.:25:30.

visibility. So cold, but more cheerful tomorrow. We'll all see

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some sunshine for a change and dry. Mind you, it will feel noticeably

:25:36.:25:39.

colder. Temperatures much lower than recently and feeling colder in

:25:39.:25:46.

the wind. In Blaenau Gwent tomorrow, very cold and breezy. Sunshine in

:25:46.:25:52.

Brynmawr. Temperatures struggling. Only five Celsius in Tredegar.

:25:52.:25:55.

Similar story down the road in Merthyr Tydfil. Cold, but bright

:25:55.:26:01.

and breezy. Temperatures in Quakers Yard a chilly seven Celsius.

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Tomorrow night, dry, clear and cold. The coldest night of the autumn so

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far. Temperatures dipping close to freezing or below with a widespread

:26:11.:26:16.

frost. So a cold start on Saturday, but a beautiful day. Bright and

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crisp with plenty of sunshine. Lighter winds and crystal clear, so

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you'll see for miles. Saturday night and Sunday, it's all change.

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Turning cloudy and damp. The wind picking up and less cold with

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temperatures a bit higher. So Saturday the best day of the

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weekend. Not so nice on Sunday. Our picture tonight is from Mark

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Roberts. Autumn leaves in Chirk. Thanks, Mark. Enjoy the sunshine

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tomorrow, but watch out for the A reminder of our top story:

:26:53.:26:56.

The Welsh government has told Wales Today it's considering new laws to

:26:56.:26:58.

deal with the problem of stray horses. It follows widespread

:26:58.:27:00.

reports of unscrupulous owners breeding huge numbers of animals

:27:01.:27:04.

they simply can't afford to keep or feed, which leads to a problem

:27:04.:27:09.

known as fly-grazing. And we'll have the second of our special

:27:09.:27:17.

reports looking at this tomorrow night.

:27:17.:27:21.

The UK is out of recession. The latest official figures show that

:27:21.:27:26.

the economy grew by 1% between July and September. The period included

:27:26.:27:31.

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