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Monday. That is all from the

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You're watching Wales Today. Our top story: He was the mayor of Denbigh.

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Tonight, he's been jailed for 18 years for setting off explosions in

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the town. If anybody had been walking past that main explosion in

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maths -- March, they would have been killed.

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Could Mike Phillips be on his way out of Bayonne? Reports in France

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say he's facing the sack. Also tonight: The people committing

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crimes and ending up in prison on purpose to jump the priority housing

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list. A Welsh MP warns companies miss-sold

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financial products by the banks are going bust as they wait for

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compensation. And HS2 will deliver faster trains

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but there's confusion whether Wales will get extra funding as a result.

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Good evening. A judge said he subjected the people of Denbigh to a

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"sustained campaign of deliberate terror". Tonight, the town's former

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mayor has been jailed for 18 years for setting off a series of

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explosions. Cars and buildings were peppered with shrapnel and residents

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were kept awake through the night. John Larsen was told he could have

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killed or seriously injured someone. Matthew Richards reports.

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Denbigh, 12:45am on the 24th of March this year. People living here

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have already been terrorised by a series of night-time explosions over

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the past month, some of which damaged cars and smashed windows.

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And their peace is about to be shattered by the biggest blast yet,

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one which has earned its architect an 18 year prison sentence,

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comparable with that of a terrorist or killer. Among those who reported

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the explosions to police was John Larsen, the local town councillor. I

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welcome the sentence. These were dangerous devices packed with

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explosives and shrapnel. Had anybody been walking past that main

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explosion in March, they would have been killed. He spoke to Wales Today

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at the height of the campaign. We are terrified. We have got sheltered

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accommodation around here and there are a lot of elderly people and

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scared people. You don't know what's going to happen next. People can't

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sleep. They are checking their cars out of the window all the time. But

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he already knew more than anyone about the explosions. He was causing

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them. The scorch marks have been covered up but it could be sometime

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before the psychological of what happened here fades. The people here

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were shocked and then devastated by the revelation of who was behind

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them. John Larsen had been mayor of Denbigh in 1999 and now he

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represented his ward on the community council and was a member

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of the neighbourhood watch. Those who knew him never suspected he was

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planting explosives. I was just amazed. I never put two and two

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together that John had anything to do with it. When he was arrested,

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obviously I was amazed. It's claimed John Larsen was getting a thrill

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from planting the explosives and the attention it was attracting. The

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judge at Caernarfon Crown Court told him had he not been arrested, he

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would have killed or caused someone very serious injury. Those subjected

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to his sustained terror campaign can be reassured by his long sentence.

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BBC Wales has been told how some people may be committing minor

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crimes in a bid to get "priority housing" when they're released from

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prison. In Wales, all inmates are automatically put on a "priority

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housing" list if they're homeless when released, regardless of how

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long they spend behind bars. Now, the Housing Minister wants to change

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the law. Jordan Davies has the story.

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23-year-old Craig has spent time in prison in Gloucester and Cardiff for

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assault, car theft and dangerous driving. With the help of friends

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and family he now has a place to live and a full-time job. But like

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many ex-prisoners, he is aware of the practice where people in

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desperate situations commit my net crimes in a bid to jump the housing

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queue. Repeat offenders usually offend so they can get on the

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priority list. Seasonal offenders through the winter don't -- commit

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offences to get a roof over their heads in prison. So if you can

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demonstrate that you are homeless, you are put on a priority list? Yes.

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In 2001 the Welsh Government changed the law to allow homeless

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ex-prisoners with friends or family in an area to access priority

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housing in a bid to stop them reoffending. But the Welsh

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Government says this has not worked. Now it wants to change the law.

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Recent figures show there is a larger proportion of ex-prisoners on

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priority lists than people fleeing domestic violins, people with mental

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illness or learning difficulty, and those leaving care for the Armed

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Forces. It now costs Welsh councils ?2 million a year to how is former

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prisoners. When crime highlighted to us is shoplifting which often

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doesn't end up in a custodial sentence. Knowing this, offenders

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failed to turn up to court which is a more serious offence and often

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does warrant prison time. There is no minimum on how long somebody has

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to spend behind these walls so a person could be held on the mantle

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week, the released and then a council has a duty to host them.

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Should this policy be reviewed because they will be anger and great

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concern amongst the public that local people who have been waiting

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for a long time are being leapfrogged I people who've come out

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of prison. The Welsh Government was to make the system fairer and harder

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to abuse by introducing a stricter test for ex-prisoners. If you look

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hard enough you'll find anything you wish to look for in terms of

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loopholes in systems. They will be people like there that will have

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committed a small crime to do that. The fact of the matter is, a person

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in your local community has been waiting on the housing list and in

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the current situation they are in the worst position than somebody was

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just left prison. This kind of practice has had very little

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scrutiny so it's hard to know how much is going on. Craig found his

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feet after spending time behind bars but others are not as lucky.

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Sometimes they resort to desperate and illegal measures to put a roof

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over their heads. Health officials are again asking

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parents to give their children two doses of the MMR vaccine, after

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another rise in the number of cases of measles in South West Wales.

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There are now 13 cases linked to Cwmtawe School in Pontardawe, but a

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suspected case with no apparent link to the school has also been reported

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at a nursery in the Swansea area. We would plead for parents who have

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still resisted all the offers that were made in the past for children

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to come forward to be vaccinated to not only consider their own

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children's health but also to think of the children who for medical

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reasons, for example following a bone marrow transplant, can be

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vaccinated. -- cannot be vaccinated. Pupils at a comprehensive school in

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Carmarthenshire have been screened for tuberculosis after a member of

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staff was diagnosed with the infection. 124 pupils were given a

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blood test at Ysgol y Strade in Llanelli. Health officials say it's

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unlikely the infection has spread to pupils.

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The future of Wales rugby international Mike Phillips is in

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doubt tonight after his French club suspended him indefinitely. Our

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sports reporter, Ashleigh Crowter, is here. What do we know?

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Mike Phillips has been suspended indefinitely by his club Bayonne

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where he's been playing for the past two seasons. He's been discplined

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after turning up drunk to a video analysis session, after spending the

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previous night celebrating a victory with team-mates. Two other Bayonne

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players were hauled in by directors on similar charges, but they're now

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back in the team for the club's next match tomorrow night. But the club

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say Phillips won't be playing. He does of course have 'previous' in

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this area. He was suspended by Bayonne last year for off-field

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misconduct. And reports suggest tonight that Phillips will receive a

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letter from the club on Saturday. Under French law, you can't legally

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be considered sacked until 48 hours after notification and receipt of

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written confirmation. So for now, he remains suspended, but we await

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further developments. If this is the end of his time in Bayonne, how

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might it affect his career and the Wales team? Well, Phillips is due to

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join up with the Wales team in ten days time for the Autrumn

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internationals. Warren Gatland said earlier this week that events in

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France wouldn't affect his participation in the Autumn games,

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although he was planning to have an informal conversation with Phillips

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to assess his state of mind. If he is forced to leave Bayonne, Phillips

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will be looking for a new club. With the current salary caps in Welsh

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rugby, and the current uncertainty about Europe, it's not clear whether

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any of the Welsh regions could afford to take him on at the moment.

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Stay with us. Later, we're in Dublin for the latest on the uncertainty

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surrounding the future of European rugby. What we're talking here is

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less about sport and more about and money. Below the international tier,

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who runs European rugby? Welsh business owners have been

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protesting in Westminster, claiming many are going-bust while they wait

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for banks to compensate them for miss-sold products. On the day the

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issue was raised in Parliament by one Welsh MP, India Pollock has been

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speaking to one family who have lost everything.

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Three years ago, Jacqui Bartels and her husband, Adrian, owned this

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20-bed hotel in Carmarthenshire. It's a far cry from their living

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arrangements today - sleeping on airbeds in her mother's lounge. The

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business was a successful one. At its peak, they were organising

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around 100 weddings a year. But they lost their home and business after

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their local bank mis-sold them a financial product when they took out

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a loan. Like many businesses, Jacqui thought she was simply fixing the

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loan repayment rate. But when she signed up to the Interest Rate Swap

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Agreement, she didn't know the impact it would have on their lives.

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Adrian had a serious heart attack. Our youngest daughter was ten at the

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time and because of the shock of his heart attack, she got what they call

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reactive arthritis. When a child gets stressed it can attack, so she

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got it from her hips down. She was seriously ill for around 18 months.

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She's lost a lot of schooling and education. Adrian's father then had

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a heart attack and my mum ended up in hospital due to stress and

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sickness. So it had a detrimental affect right through the family.

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These products worse -- work well for many businesses but this family

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did not have the product explained to them. The Bartels are not alone.

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Thousands of businesses signed up to the swap agreements. If interest

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rates went up, the swaps would protect them from higher charges.

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What the banks didn't explain was that if interest rates went down the

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businesses had to compensate the banks, sometimes to the tune of

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hundreds of thousands of pounds. Martin Barclay used to sell the

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products. He has acted as with this in many cases and says Wales was

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targeted. It was seen as a land of opportunity. They were high levels

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of deaths and Wang managers were put under duress to introduce them to

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the investment bank to sell these products. Business owners have been

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protesting outside the House of Commons today, where the issue is

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being debated. The Financial Conduct Authority is running a scheme to

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make banks compensate those who've lost out, but so far only 32 of the

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40,000 businesses affected in the UK have been paid. If we found that 93%

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of mortgages had been mis-sold, we have allowed the situation in which

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there has been nine months between those findings and the situation we

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now face. The Financial Conduct Authority says that it hopes most

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cases will be reviewed by the end of the year. But for Jacqui and Adrian,

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the damage has already been done. Will Wales be better-off thanks to

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extra funding from the UK Government off-the-back of the High Speed two

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rail project in England? It depends who you listen to. The Finance

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Minister Jane Hutt has insisted Wales is getting an extra ?35

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million pounds as a result but the Treasury says Wales won't be getting

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any extra cash. We'll be live in Westminster in a moment. First,

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here's our Political Editor, Nick Servini.

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It is the biggest investment in the British rail network in a

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generation. Costing an estimated ?40 billion. If high-speed two is given

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the go-ahead, journey times between London and cities in the north of

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England will be cut dramatically. Wales usually gets a share of the

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value of projects which affect England using the Barnett Formula

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but that does not always apply. It did not with the Olympics because it

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was felt to be a UK wide benefit anyway. The Treasury has always

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insisted it will be the same with HS2. Until now it seems. The current

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row revolves around spending for 2015, the finance minister insists

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the Welsh Government will get around 35mm is extra as a result of HS2.

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The Treasury insists that is not the case. The complex system of money

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coming from Westminster the Cardiff has led to calls for it to be

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changed. We do need reform. We have always said we need reform but the

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main thing is that we need more leaders on our finance in Wales so

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we can boost the economy and the construction sector. This

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demonstrates how difficult it is without that kind of reform. HS2 is

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not coming to stations like this in Cardiff but its impact could be

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felt. The importance of this is the president it could set. If Wales

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does get a share of the overall spend on the HS2 project in England

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it could amount to hundreds of millions of pounds and much of that

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money could be spent on the transport infrastructure in Wales.

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There is a general sense of unhappiness in Cardiff that Wales is

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not getting a fair share roughly handled from the UK government but

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there is a feeling on the other side that Wales is complaining. This is

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not a healthy relationship but the moment. This row was another example

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of vocation of that. Whatever side of the track the reality is, there

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are plenty of variables here including the big one, that HS2 is

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so controversial it a not be given the go ahead anyway.

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Our parliamentary correspondent, David Cornock, is at Westminster.

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David, the Welsh Government and the Treasury are contradicting each

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other .They can't both be right. No but they do agree on one thing, the

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former that was used to calculate the extra spending that has ended up

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in the Welsh Government's budget. But the Treasury here is adamant and

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says HS2 was excluded before that former was applied, giving the many

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to Wales. It says the extra money was going to Wales not as a result

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of spending on trains and infrastructure and railways, but as

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a result of extra spending on road projects in England. The Welsh

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Government looks at the figures and says, hang on, there is many here we

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weren't expecting. This can only have come because of the extra

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spending on HS2. The bottom line is having spent the last three is

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complaining about being short-changed by the coalition here,

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that the first time the Welsh Government now has a little bit more

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money in one area than it was expecting. And when will we know for

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sure about this many? It is a hugely controversial project and it's going

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to take a long time to be sorted out. We know the spending plans

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until 2015 but we don't know what will happen after the general

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election then. We know that HS2 will take a long time to build. It will

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be ten or more years before trains actually running on those new

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high-speed rail lines. So there will be a lot of financial negotiations

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and new formulas applied before then. It will be a long and slow

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journey. But the stakes in terms of hundreds of millions of pounds or

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more are huge. The National Eisteddfod should not

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be based on a permanent site. That's the main conclusion from a report

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presented to the Welsh Government. It does however say more public

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money should be given to the week-long festival, as Nick Palit

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reports. The National Eisteddfod is Wales'

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leading annual festival. Organisers describe it as an eclectic mix of

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the traditional and the modern. A celebration of Wales, its culture

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and its language. It attracts up to 160,000 visitors over an eight day

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period. Staged every year during the first week of August, this year it

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was held in Denbigh. Next year, it will visit Llanelli. But whether it

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should keep moving, or have a permanent base, has been one of the

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areas examined by a group tasked to modernise the festival. Chaired by

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broadcaster Roy Noble, today they announced there would be no change.

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When the nationally stepped vodka goes to assert nearly, it brings

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colour, excitement and a profile of that particularly. Everyone we

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talked to was of the same mind. They were all glad of the experience. The

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group did however decide they needed to appoint a creative director to

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make the visitor experience even better. They also called on the

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Welsh Government to increase its financial support. Times are tough

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financially but clearly if we are able to see these recommendations

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being taken forward, there might be an opportunity to look at providing

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more resources for the Eisteddfod. The group also recommended a

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marketing strategy to increase visitor numbers, and attract more

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volunteers in the areas they visit. They also want closer collaboration

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with the Youth Urdd Eisteddfod. The new radio listening figures show

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that 474,000 people are tuning into BBC Radio Wales every week. That's

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24,000 more than this time last year, according to the RAJAR survey,

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but 25,000 down on the previous three months. BBC Radio Cymru is

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maintaining its level of listeners. Radio 2 is still the most

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listened-to station in Wales. A gala opening concert officially

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welcomed WOMEX to Wales last night. The world music expo will feature

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four days of concerts and trade meetings in Cardiff. The singer

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Cerys Matthews curated last night's concert, which featured traditional

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Welsh songs, a male voice choir and folk dancers.

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The saga over the future of European rugby goes on. Ashleigh's here with

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more. Yes. The WRU, as well as the other

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five nation's governing bodies, have agreed to change the structure of

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European club rugby. After meetings in Dublin, a change in revenue

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distribution was also agreed. The top English and French clubs, who

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have proposed a breakaway tournament, which has been backed by

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the four Welsh regions, were not present at the meetings. From

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Dublin, here's Roger Pinney. Dublin, capital of Ireland and home

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to so much Heineken Cup success but over the last two days it's been the

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centre of intrigue. They have been thrashing out the future of European

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rugby. Behind closed doors, meetings in what used to be called

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smoke-filled rooms, that's the stuff of rugby politics these days. But

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what we're talking here is less sport and more about power and

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money. In the tier below the International 's, who runs European

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rugby? This afternoon, not so much a deal but the proposal emerged and it

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appears to go a long way towards answering the concerns of English

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and French clubs who have touted a new breakaway competition. Club

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tournaments are proposed. They will be to have a qualification. Each

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tournament will be made from each of the mission French leagues and seven

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from the pro 12. The 20th slot will be filled by a play-off. One place

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will be guaranteed to each country and many will be divided equally

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between the English, French and pro 12 leagues. But that is no mention

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of who would run the tournament or of TV deals. Both potential sticking

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points. In Ireland as in Wales fans want this sorted. Our guys are going

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to get to Moller eyes if they are only playing that standard of rugby.

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-- get the moral life. I hope it is sorted out for rugby's sake. In

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Wales the uncertainty over European competition has impacted on top

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layers like Sam Warburton and Leigh Halfpenny. Signing autographs the

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other night but unable to sign new deals with the regions. They are

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both out of contract at the end of the season. Now the Welsh Rugby

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Union has offered but players on temporary centralised contracts,

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paying the bills to keep leading players in Wales. I think that

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showing unity in a position where that is so much uncertainty is a

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good thing and for me they have to make a stand on this layered train

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from Wales. But the regions have yet to agree to the offer and they might

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not be entirely comfortable with it. So today new offers on the table

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in Wales and renewed up but nothing signed yet.

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Swansea City are in Europa League action later. They take on Russian

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side Kuban Kraznodar at the Liberty Stadium. They'll be without

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defenders Ashley Williams and Ben Davies, who are injured.

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There's disappointment for two of our best known Paralympic athletes.

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The Great Britain Sledge Hockey team has failed to qualify for the Winter

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Paralympics in Russia next year. Nathan Stephens, who found fame with

:23:50.:23:52.

the javelin, and three time Paralympic sailor Stephen Thomas,

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were part of the team who suffered their third successive qualification

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defeat in Turin last night. Tomorrow night we will be looking

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ahead to the Rugby league World Cup which begins in Cardiff on Saturday.

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Thanks, Ashleigh. On tomorrow night's programme, we'll be speaking

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to the actor James Corden, who's playing the part of Welsh classical

:24:15.:24:18.

singer Paul Potts in a new film about his life. It's six years since

:24:19.:24:22.

the singer from Port Talbot won 'Britain's Got Talent'. The film,

:24:23.:24:24.

called 'One Chance', tells the story of his route to stardom. Originally,

:24:25.:24:32.

I said I would like to give it a shot and I might be able to sing

:24:33.:24:38.

this. I had ten or 11 lessons and some of our producers heard me sing

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and listen to half the song and said, no, I don't think you should

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sing. The weather now. A pretty pleasant

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day today but it's all change tonight.

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It is all downhill from this evening and over the next few days little

:24:58.:25:04.

sign of any sunshine. That is a yellow warning in place this evening

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for heavy rain. We could see a few problems with surface flooding first

:25:09.:25:12.

thing tomorrow. The rain is patchy in nature but it will intensify as

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it moved further north and eastwards. But it is mild with

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temperatures in double figures. First thing tomorrow, it is not very

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pleasant. We have got strong winds and the rain but the wind will help

:25:31.:25:35.

to push through that ring pretty quickly and by the afternoon we hang

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on to the wind but it is a case of showers and those showers will merge

:25:40.:25:42.

into longer spells of rain by the end of the afternoon. There will be

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limited amounts of brightness and temperatures not too bad for this

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time of year. Tomorrow evening the showers will become fewer and

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farther -- few and far between. Overnight the showers will merge it

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again into longer spells of rain but we have that milder air over us.

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Temperatures remaining in double figures. As we going to Saturday

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morning, a blustery morning with some showers but by the afternoon we

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will see more organised rain making its way in from the West. The

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afternoon is looking wet and windy. The south-east corner might get away

:26:25.:26:28.

with drier conditions at first but the rain will reach you as we go

:26:29.:26:31.

through the day. Temperatures on the cooler side as well. Sunday night we

:26:32.:26:39.

are looking at this area of low pressure which is going to bring

:26:40.:26:42.

with it some stormy weather on Sunday night into Monday morning. We

:26:43.:26:50.

could see gusts of up to 80 mph. For the weekend, blustery showers on

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Saturday with rain later in the day and blustery showers on Sunday with

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some sort -- stormy conditions to calm as we go into Monday morning.

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A reminder of tonight's main stories: A former mayor has been

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jailed for 18 years for setting off a series of explosions in Denbigh.

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Cars and buildings were peppered with shrapnel. John Larsen was told

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he could have killed or seriously injured someone.

:27:24.:27:27.

The future of Mike Phillips is in doubt tonight after his French club

:27:28.:27:32.

Bayonne suspended him indefinitely. Reports in France say he is facing

:27:33.:27:35.

the sack. I'll have an update for you at

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8:00pm and there's more from the Wales Today newsroom at 10:25pm

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tonight. From all of us here, have a good evening.

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