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risen, over 200 dead and 120 are still trapped.

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Tonight, the fallout from a damning report into elderly patient care

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Those responsible for carrying out spot checks say

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I think we all have to take responsibility for looking back and

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thinking about how we may possibly have been able to identify and make

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a difference earlier in the process. This car crashed into children and

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a lollipop lady outside a school. A court hears

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the driver's flip-flops may have got Colin Jackson - the latest famous

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face to have invested in a company Warren's family say they should be

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exempt from the so-called bedroom tax due to his disability - they

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take their battle to the high court. It affects the lives of not only

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ourselves that there is a lot of other people around the country who

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have disabled children and people don't realise looking after a

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disabled child is very hard work. And celebrations

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in Pembroke Dock to mark 200 years A day on from the publication

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of a damning report into elderly care failings

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at the Princess of Wales and Neath Port Talbot hospitals, questions

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are being asked about the Welsh Government's response to it and the

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system of inspecting the Welsh NHS. Plaid Cymru claim Wales-wide

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spot-checks announced yesterday are simply a rehash of

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a plan introduced three years ago. And the Older People's Commissioner

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has called into question the effectiveness of Health Inspectorate

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Wales after it raised no serious concerns during an inspection of the

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Princess of Wales Hospital in 2012. Here's our Health Correspondent,

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Owain Clarke. Yesterday we joined the families who

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claimed their loved ones had been victim of a health system that

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didn't care enough. It talks about a further independent

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investigation in a year's time and yet it shows problems over several

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years. It is not going to address the real concerns. It seems to

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pinpoint elderly care alone but if somebody has lost a loved one that

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should never have died that day, they should be included in this

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report. The Welsh government and health

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board issued an unreserved apology to those effective and the

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hospitals. The health minister went further.

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Each hospital in Wales will be visited by a small group of

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independent experts, overseen from outside Wales by Sir Ian Carruthers

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and Professor Andrews. They will carry out spot checks.

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There are claims tonight the announcement was similar to the

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Welsh government's response to another damning assessment three

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years ago. In 2011, the then older people 's Commissioner claimed some

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elderly patients had been created -- degraded.

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They introduced spot checks. A spot check system was announced in 2011

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to deal with concerns around care of the elderly in hospital. The 12

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checks occurred by Health Inspectorate Wales following that.

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Seven had concerning results and no spot checks were undertaken in 2013

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at all so yesterday we had a rehashed, re-announced spot check

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policy that really, if it had been properly in place since 2011 as was

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announced at the time, some of the issues that we have been hearing of

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in this report may not have ever happened in hospitals in Wales.

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The difference this time according to the Welsh government is the new

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spot checks will be targeted at four specific areas- and this time they

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won't be led by Health Inspectorate Wales but instead a team hand-picked

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by the Welsh government. Health Inspectorate Wales will restart its

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own spot checks six months later. The question is has the inspector

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had been sidelined? It was certainly criticised in the review yesterday

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which claims concerns must be raised about the effectiveness of Health

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Inspectorate Wales, who seem to have last visited two years ago and not

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seen or reported on what would have been at the time highly visible

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issues of poor practice. At a time when standards of care are under the

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spotlight like never before, the question is is the body responsible

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for upholding itself up to the job? Earlier I spoke to Kate Chamberlain,

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the chief executive of Health Inspectorate Wales, and I

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asked her if the organisation should I think at any point where failures

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of the magnitude that have been highlighted in this report have been

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missed, we all have to take responsibility for looking back and

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thinking about how we may have been able to identify and make a

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difference earlier. Let's talk about identifying problems. The report

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said that at the time of the 2012 inspection, there would have been

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highly visible issues of poor practice. How were they missed?

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Looking back at the report that we did in 2012 on the issues found at

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the Princess of Wales Hospital, it is clear the report flags up some of

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the issues but not all that were highlighted by the report. There

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were issues about retrospective depletion of documentation and there

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are issues about some of the ward environment. But the overall tone of

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your report was generally positive, wasn't it? The report said that care

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was being provided in a sensitive manner.

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The report highlights the interactions with patients that were

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observed that it does highlight failings in the way some of those

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were being delivered. The response we had from the health board

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indicate the issues were being addressed. During the past year, we

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have certainly been looking again at the approach we take to our dignity

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and essential care inspections. New inspections took place in February

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and March this year, based on the tools. The first report has now been

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issues. We have been drawing up issues relating to leadership and

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culture. New spot checks are going to be

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carried out by a ministerial team. Is your organisation being

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sidelined? No. Our organisation is not being

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sidelined. We are talking to the Welsh government about how the

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approach taken through the spot checks can be aligned with our

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inspections and the programme of our inspections we conduct through the

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remainder of the year will be focused through those spot checks.

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It is important to say that they will be focusing specifically on the

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four issues in the Andrews report and three of those are already

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covered in the inspections we undertake.

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In the light of the criticism in this report, which was between

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December 2013 and April 2014, very recent. What can you say to people

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who are in hospital or going into hospital shortly to reassure them

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that it is after all your job to protect them?

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I think I would say to those patients who are about to go into

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hospital that there is a whole system in place to protect them. It

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is important to encourage staff to do so as well for us. We have all

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got a part to play, whether it is ourselves in the regime, whether it

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is the community councils in helping to support and advise patients and

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also to support them when they don't feel they are getting their services

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and importantly, the health boards have an important part to play in

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listening to the concerns that are raised and acting on them.

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A court has heard how the accident in which a car crashed

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outside a school, hitting five children and a lollipop lady,

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may have happened after the drivers flip flops got under the pedals.

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62-year-old Robert Bell denies driving without due care

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and attention and says he cannot remember

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the crash which happened last year at Rhoose in the Vale of Glamorgan.

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It was just before 9am as children were pouring into Rhoose Primary

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School when the accident happened. Five children and three women were

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injured. One of them was the lollipop lady, Karen Williams. She

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received an award for her actions trying to protect the children.

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62-year-old Robert Bell denies driving without due care and

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attention and today he told a court how he could recall nothing of the

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accident. Fighting back the tears, he said the first thing he

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remembered was hanging upside down in the car. When he got out and saw

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the scene, he said he thought he'd killed three people. Some witnesses

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that they said he had been driving his car along the road outside the

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school when it appeared to Spira -- speed up, veer across the road and

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hit collards before flipping over. Karen Williams said she saw Mr Bell

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gripping the wheel with his eyes open as the car came towards her.

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Another witness said he was coughing and his eyes were closed. His lawyer

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told the court he was on medication which caused coughing. The

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prosecution lawyer put it to him that the flip-flops he had been

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wearing had ended up under the pedals and that could have caused

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the accident. Vista Bell said he thought they'd come off as he tried

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to free himself. -- Mr Bell. Two we court will hear expert evidence from

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two doctors. -- tomorrow the court will hear.

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The latest official figures show the number of people out of work

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in Wales fell by 5,000 in the three months to March.

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The unemployment rate here has stabilised remaining at 6.8% -

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which is now the same as in the UK as a whole.

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Wales is one of only two areas where the number of people in or looking

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for work has fallen compared with the same period last year.

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Seven pupils from Pembroke Comprehensive School needed

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hospital treatment this afternoon after experimenting with what's

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Police and the air ambulance were called after a group

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None are thought to be in a life threatening condition.

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It's emerged the Olympic hurdler, Colin Jackson, is involved in

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running a company that's invested millions of pounds in the same tax

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Revenue and Customs is expected to pursue

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those involved to get the money that should have been paid in taxation.

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Our business correspondent, Brian Meechan, is here.

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This is about aggressive tax avoidance. That is not illegal but

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it is against the spirit of the law, if not the letter of the law. Colin

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Jackson has been involved in a company which reported losses of

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?9.4 million as part of this game. There are a number of solicitors

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that are involved, some dentists, some medics also involved with this

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company. What the tax tribunal judge has said is that there were no real

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loss is attached to this scheme and basically it was just many circling

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around and it was there to offset some of the many coming in and to

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reduce taxation. We have spoken to Mr Jackson's agent but they say

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there is no statement coming today. What will happen next? All the

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people involved in this scheme will be receiving quite hefty tax bills.

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Think of this as ?10 million, quite a large tax bill to have to pick up

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from that. People are quite annoyed about this because they are paying

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taxes and people are finding it hard. When they see people not

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paying what they feel they should be playing, it is a bad reaction.

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Council tax in Wales is unfair because it charges proportionately

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more for cheaper houses than expensive ones - that's according to

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the economist Gerry Holtham, who chaired the Commission

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In a paper for the Institute for Welsh Affairs he suggests that

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council tax for people in the lowest band should be halved

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while bills for the highest band would almost double.

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Our Economics Correspondent Sarah Dickins looks at what it would mean

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Dale Aston lives in Church Village near Pontypridd.

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He pays just more than ?1,100 a year in council tax.

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Under the proposals his bill would fall and he could

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Nigel Roberts lives on the outskirts of Cardiff.

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His bills would rise and in fact almost double.

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Dale Aston, a retired colliery electrician, has lived here

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The poor people always pay more than their fair share of tax so it does

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not surprise me. He argues it is right that bills for large houses

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should be larger. The value of the house and income is greater than

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mine. I'm an OAP and I am on a small pension, hailing tax. -- paying tax.

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Nigel Roberts owns a group of companies based in Cardiff

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This perpetuates a culture of envy. I was born in the buffer in Cardiff.

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I have worked hard for it. Gerry Holtham took his proposals for

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changer to the home of politicians. They'll is paying nearly 2% of the

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value of his body every year in council tax. Nigel is probably

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paying half a percent so it is not a proportional tax. But Nigel is

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paying more in numbers of pounds for his large house. He is. People are

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always saying you should pay proportionately more if your value

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is higher. But for people living alone in a

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large house but a small income Gerry Hotham suggests payments could be

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delayed until the house was sold. And for the well-off who would pay

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much more, he has an incentive. If Wales gets powers to alter income

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tax, he'd give high earners So they see Wales

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as a good place to do business. Still to come - some good news

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on the weather front. High pressure is working it's magic,

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the sun is shining and the next few days will bring the

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warmest weather of the year so far. The

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in Wales says a "whole generation of young people"

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won't be able to access further education - because of cuts to

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public transport spending. The majority of learners in further

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education in Wales rely on some form of public transport or dedicated bus

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to travel to and from college. Our education Correspondent,

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Arwyn Jones, has more. Stefan Thomas is studying for a BTEC

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in personal fitness development. The only problem is the course is in

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Llanelli, 30 miles away. It takes about an hour and a half every

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morning and every night. I leave the house at 6:45am and I would be that

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until 5:30pm. When you do that in a day, it takes a lot out of you. He

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is one of the luckier ones because the college pays for his transport

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costs and according to research today by the National Union of

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Students, 69% of similar students who receive that support rely on it

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to get to college and back and the same research shows nearly a third

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of further education students in Wales don't receive any financial

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support to cover their costs. Last year the worst government reduced

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bus service was fought by a quarter. It is looking at different ways of

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running and financing route but some bus operators have announced that

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they might have to cut routes and the fear is it could have a

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devastating effect on students. We are going to have a generation who

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can't get to college and for many of these students, further education is

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their second chance. We talk about college education as a second

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opportunity for vulnerable learners and if these students can't afford

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to get to college, we are removing that opportunity. At the annual

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conference, the concern is that since each council has its own

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policy on students transport, students from different areas get

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different support in the same college. I wouldn't say it's a

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postcode lottery but there are different practices so levels of

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subsidy might be different. There are issues around 19 plus students

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cost in some places they are not supported by local authorities and

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others they are. It needs to be consistent. Further education

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colleges are seen as a route to employment or university but the

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concern is a lack of groups to get to college might undermine that.

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Councillors have voted in favour of closing an arts centre and museum

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The Muni Arts Centre, in Pontypridd and the

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Cynon Valley Museum in Aberdare will both close as part of Rhondda Cynon

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Taf council's plans to cut ?70 million over the next four years.

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The family of a severely disabled teenager

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from Pembrokeshire have been to the High Court today to challenge

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Paul and Susan Rutherford say the so-called

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"bedroom tax" discriminates unlawfully against severely disabled

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children, such as their grandson Warren, who need overnight care.

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Warren is 14 years old. A rare disorder means he cannot talk or

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walk and needs 24-hour care. He lives with his grandparents in a

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three-bedroom bungalow. This is the spare room. It is not really a spare

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room. We need this for Warren's essentials. But under rules

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announced last year it is a spare room, even if Warren's carers

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sometimes stay in it. Disabled adults are exempt from what critics

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call the bedroom tax but it has cost Sue and her husband Paul ?14 a week

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in benefits. Paul has his own health problems and says it is unfair, even

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though the council makes up the difference. I believe we have an

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extremely good case. We've got an awful lot of support from other

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housing associations and our own Pembrokeshire Housing people. All

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over the UK. Today the Rutherfords took their case to the High Court to

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try to get a judge to overturn the rules. The rules allow an extra room

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for an adult who is disabled and needs an overnight carer but not a

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child who needs overnight care. We say that defies common sense and is

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unjustified. The UK government says the removal of the subsidy is a fair

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and necessary reform. The Department for Work and Pensions says it has

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made many available for councils like Pembrokeshire to help families

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like the Rutherfords but that money is paid at the council's discretion

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and will be reviewed every year. The judge says he will give his

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judgement within weeks. Cricket,

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and Glamorgan have been beaten They went down to Hampshire

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on the final day of their Glamorgan were bowled out for 187

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in their second innings, setting the home side

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a slender target, which they reached The streets of Pembroke Dock were

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taken over this afternoon for a parade to mark 200 years

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since the town was founded. And, in honour of their proud Naval

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history - Pembrokeshire's adopted ship - HMS Pembroke -

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called in to pay a visit and inspire Led by the band of the

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Royal Marines, 900 schoolchildren Dressed

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in costumes reflecting the different I am a coal miner today. I am using

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my uncle's old mining lamb. It is amazing the town has got so much

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history. Pembroke Dock is the only town

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in the UK to have been home to all three armed forces - but above all

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its Navy links run the deepest. The submarine anchors off Pembroke

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docks. At one time there was a royal

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dockyard - 260 ships including The town was wealthier then -

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today's guardians want to inspire these youngsters to dream big once

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again. This is what we've done to remember

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our heritage and remember what was done here 200 years ago. Hopefully

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they will be carrying on the future for us.

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To mark the celebrations HMS Pembroke has come to visit.

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Her mission is to patrol using sonar to detect mines

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Around the UK there are still many left over from the Second World War.

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As a former member of the bomb disposal team race in Portsmouth, we

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were called out on tasks five or six times a week, varying from large sea

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mines and torpedoes. One of the types of bombs they are looking for

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is set off by metallic contact so they have as little metal on board

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as possible. Most of what you see is made from fibreglass.

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Overseas the threat is less historic - the 40 crew here also work out

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They've had a royal visit - now they can add a royal military

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band to their list of presents for this their 200th birthday.

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It looked glorious at Pembroke Dock today. We are in for a lovely few

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days, aren't we? A few clouds in the sky this evening

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but lovely sunshine with top temperature of 66 Fahrenheit. Over

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the next few days we have plenty more settled weather, warming up

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with sunny spells. Some cloud. The odd shower in places but no more

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than that. Staying dry this evening and tonight with most of the cloud

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in the North. Clearer in the south and turning cool. Lowest in pictures

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around five or six Celsius. Mist and fog patches forming. The 11 Celsius

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on the north coast. Tomorrow's chart shows high pressure across the UK

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but high pressure doesn't always mean a blue sky. Tomorrow is a misty

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start in places with hill fog in Snowdonia. Brighter in the South.

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During the day more places will brighten up with a few sunny spells.

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The best of the sunshine on the south coast. More cloud inland but

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generally dry and warm with temperatures around 20 Celsius with

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light winds. Tomorrow night the dry weather continues. If you clear

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spells and mist and fog patches, perhaps some sea fog around Cardigan

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Bay. On Friday mist and fog patches will lift, leaving a mixture of

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cloud and sunny spells. I wouldn't rule out a shower in part of Powys.

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A risk of see fog on some Irish Sea coasts. 22 Celsius in Flintshire

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would make it the warmest day of the year so far. Saturday the best day

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of the weekend. Dry and warm. Perhaps a shower in the south-east.

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Sunday may start dry and bright but there is some rain on the way so

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enjoy the fine and warm weather over the next few days while it lasts.

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Thank you. A day on from the publication of a

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damning report into failings at the Princess of Wales and Neath Port

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Talbot Hospital, questions are being asked of the worst government

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response to it. That was Wales Today. More at APN

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and 10:25pm. From all of us on the programme, evening.

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