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Welcome to Wales Today. Tonight's headlines:

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Who is to blame for Muslims -- Muslims being radicalised. There is

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something very sick in those communities. If that is part of a

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generation that is being produced. I think there's a disenfranchised part

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of our communities and who feel that they have to not accept it, being

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demonised. Alleged offensive texts from Malky

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Mackay were described as "banter". Now Cardiff City calls

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for the head of the League Managers Targetting anti-social behaviour -

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calls for Wales to learn from a scheme in England helping

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troubled families. The right to our rivers - why

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a row between anglers and canoeists And in sport, we take

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the helm with Olympic star Sir Ben Ainslie as the Extreme Sailing

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series comes to Wales this weekend. Plus a look ahead to the new season

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in football's Welsh Premier League. Not enough is being done to prevent

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Muslims from being radicalised here Former home office minister

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Kim Howells has told us successive UK governments

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and the muslim communities Meanwhile there are claims that

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a strategy set up to counter extremist views is failing

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in cities like Cardiff. This footage brought the issue of

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radicalisation firmly to Wales. The propaganda video, thought to have

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been filmed in Syria, apparently shows two Cardiff men is urging

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others to join the Isis fight in the country. Today, Kim Howells told us

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the problem needs to be tackled head-on. I don't any government,

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whether the Labour governments or the coalition, have really addressed

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the problem of why it is that so many people from young Muslim

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communities in Britain are prepared to go out to Syria and Iraq and to

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these appalling deeds. There is something sick in these communities

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if that is part of the generation that is being produced. Muslim

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leaders here in Cardiff have admitted they are struggling to

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combat what they see as a new phenomenon. This is one of the

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city's spiritual leaders, an imam at one of the mosques in Cardiff. There

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is room for improvement at Al communities. We have to ask when --

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why our communities feel more safe when they look inwards. Because the

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larger community are being portrayed as being a threat, a harm, a

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danger. It has produced this mentality. Mohammed is land, a

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former councillor, told people fit -- people do feel let down by

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government. In terms of the Mosque imams, they are not responsible and

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they cannot control it. Same as any church, people will listen, but it

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will depend on how many people are going to practice and follow his

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dialogue. In this city park, where they were enjoying a game of

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football after Friday prayers, they said the problem is not a failure to

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integrate but a failure to deal with individuals. Some religions are

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doing things bad and the lamb is just a religion. I think it is just

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a few people taking it over the top. They need to be identified and

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stopped because this is not what our religion is about. In London, this

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youth Centre is at the heart of government attempts to tackle

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radicalisation. Its strategy investor projects like the one here,

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aimed at stopping young Muslim men from becoming radicalised. But

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today, Lord Carlile said that when it came to parts of Wales, it was

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failing. In some cities, in some London boroughs, it has been

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implemented very well. In other places, and there is evidence that

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this was the -- this was the case in Cardiff until recently, it was Mr

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Gill, very little was being done in terms of project funding. -- it was

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vestigial. Some people say the programme is behind the times. We

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have seen high profile problems in Cardiff. I think there is a -- it is

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a good idea to take a moment to see whether the strategy is tailored to

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the problem we are facing now, not the problem we were facing a few

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years ago. The suggestion that the beheading of the American journalist

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James Foley was carried out by British man has caused leaders to

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think again about whether the fight against radicalisation is working.

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Cardiff City Football club has called for the boss of

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the organisation which represents football managers - to resign.

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The League Managers Association described offensive text messages

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allegedly sent by former manager Malky Mackay as 'banter'.

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The Association has apologised but the club says

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it's 'reprehensible' and say Richard Bevan's position is untenable.

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His apology has been wildly -- widely criticised. Offensive

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comments were let off -- were described as banter. He was letting

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off steam, according to the League Managers Association. Now the

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association has apologised, saying it was not trying to trivialise the

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issue. But Cardiff City Stadium the head of the LMA should now step

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down. A former Wales striker has known known him for several years.

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Is he a racist? There is no place for racism and sexism. I know that

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the texts that have come out in the last couple of days, and they don't

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look good, but hand on heart, he is not a racist. He has let himself and

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his family down. The text messages came to light during an

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investigation by the club. 10,000 messages were accessed. The League

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Managers Association says that Mackay sent just a couple of

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messages that were the rubber tree. But the club disputes this, saying

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there are many more. -- that were derogatory. On Twitter, a former

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city player accused his former manager of racist behaviour. He has

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since deleted those posts. We asked Malky Mackay about the comments. He

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has yet to respond. It all shows there is in unsavoury quality --

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attitude in football, according to some people. It shows that senior

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figures can get away with using banter as an excuse while we are

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trying to educate young players to say that banter is not an excuse,

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there is a line that you have to take. The charity says there were

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284 incidents of abuse, up 269%. 66% whether racism, 20% for religious

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abuse. 8% were homophobic. These incidents were of abuse and grounds.

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This is not the first time that the Premier League has encountered these

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problems. Richard Skidmore sends sexist e-mails but the football

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Association decided against taking action. -- Richard Scudamore. There

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is support for Malky Mackay. Malky Mackay has made a big mistake. What

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he and the other lads have done is not right. But he is a fantastic

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lad, a great, great fellow. A family man, a real football man. He has

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made a big mistake. So it is another unwanted story surrounding Cardiff

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city. Questions are also being asked about the wider culture in the game

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and whether those involved can tackle prejudice and abuse behind

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the scenes. Within the last few minutes, Malky Mackay has given his

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first television interview since the row erupted. He said that the texts

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sent were unacceptable and inappropriate. He went on to say

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that there was no excuse for them and he said he was sincerely

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apologetic. That within the last hour. And speaking of those

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offensive messages, the BBC understands that officials here at

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Cardiff city say they have more material of a similar nature. So it

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is certain that this affair is far from finished.

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Two men have been charged with child cruelty offences as a part

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of the investigation into allegations of historical abuse

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Keith Evans from Wrexham and Kelvin Horriban from Nottinghamshire

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are accused of the offences involving a boy aged between 9 and

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They're due to appear in court in October.

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A woman from Cardiff who was quarantined with a suspected case of

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Public Health Wales says the woman is not at risk from

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the virus, which has killed more than 1,300 people in West Africa.

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The woman voluntarily isolated herself after fears she may have

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been exposed to Ebola, while visiting the continent.

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Cardiff Airport's chief executive will stand down next month.

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John Horne took up the role a week after the airport was bought

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by the Welsh Government last year for ?52 million.

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In a statement, he says a new perspective will be beneficial

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It claims to have turned around the lives of more than 50

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thousand families in England and save billions of pounds by reducing

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Now there's a call for Wales to learn from

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the so-called 'troubled families' initiative, to see if it could help

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A year ago, Jackie Ryan's daughter was causing problems in their

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Monmouth neighbourhood, causing fires and fighting. In trouble with

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the police, being abusive. I went to a stage of drugs, anti-social

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behaviour, taking overdoses, drinking leaf -- drinking bleach.

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What about the effect it had on your mum and dad? I feel bad about that.

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Social services were already working with the family, but things were not

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improving. Emily is now much better. The anti-social behaviour

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has stopped and she is back in education. Without help, Jackie says

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it would be very different. She would be imprisoned. I am -- I would

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have dropped out of school so I would not have had GCSEs. This

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family got help It gives families a dedicated worker

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to fight their corner, but also Only four councils

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in Wales have paid for it so far, to help 20 families at a cost

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of ?10,000 per family. It claims to save up to ?130,000

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in reduced costs in other areas, from it is a way of breaking their

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behaviour. Some argue we could learn lessons from across the border.

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The "troubled families" initiative in England gives similar dedicated

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support - it claims to have helped turn around 53,000 families so far.

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It is a good single worker that the family can trust. There is no

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problem at all from learning from England. If there is something next

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door that is a good initiative, let's look at it and see if it will

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work around here. When you look at individual projects, are similar...

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Others suggest that the scheme in England has its own problems. It

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ignores some of the bigger structural factors like poverty

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which have an impact on the families' lives. Jackie and her

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family want help and want others to benefit regardless of where it comes

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from. That call to address crime

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and antisocial behaviour comes as a scheme to reduce knife crime

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is backed by the mother of a Wrexham man who was stabbed to

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death last year. The family

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of Craig Maddocks is supporting a knife amnesty which was launched

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in Birmingham today and is heading Edna Maddocks has a very personal

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reason to support efforts to reduce Her son, amateur boxer Craig, was

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stabbed 52 times at a pub in Wrexham last year in what the judge called

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a "brutal and ferocious attack". His killer Francesco Prevete was

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jailed for a minimum of 23 years. Craig Maddocks' family say

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the project is helping them deal We have come to back this up, to get

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knives off the street. We felt we needed to do something. The lesson

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eyes on the street, they're less chance there is of any family going

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through this. It affected our lives a lot. We have not got over it

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completely. It was horrendous, what happened to him. There is no need.

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We need to stop it. We do need to stop it.

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Knife bins like this one launched in Birmingham today will be put

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in Wrexham, Cardiff and Swansea to encourage weapons to be handed in.

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The blades will then be melted down and turned into a sculpture to

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pay tribute to those who have died as a result of knife crime.

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This statue will require maybe as many as 100,000 knives. So it is a

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huge project. If we get every city on board, we will be successful and

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we will create the statue that we want to create.

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In Wales, the number of incidents involving

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knives or sharp blades fell slightly last year in all police force areas,

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But there were still more than 500 cases.

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Across England and Wales there were 200

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stabbing-related deaths - slightly more than the previous year.

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But Craig Maddocks was more than just a statistic.

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His family say he loved life and to make people smile.

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They are determined that his death here will prompt those who

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carry knives to hand them over to save more lives being lost.

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You are watching Wales Today. Still to come, the qualification race for

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European qualification starts as the Welsh Premier League kicks off. And

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Olympic legend Sir Ben Ainslie comes to Wales to compete in the extreme

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sailing series this weekend. A long-running dispute

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about the right to use our rivers Anglers have issued

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a legal challenge in a bid to curtail what they call

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"unlawful canoeing" in Wales. The Angling Trust says it wants

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the law clarified and claims canoeists have been misled into

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thinking they have a public right We've had the right to roam -

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now we have On tidal waters like this stretch

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of the Teifi near Cardigan there is a public right of navigation -

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but once you get further upstream, it's a battleground where

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the waters are far murkier. To an angler - who pays for

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a licence and a permit to fish - a If you have paid a lot of money to

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go fishing there, travelled across the country to go fishing, and you

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have a group of canoeists coming through, it can completely wipe out

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your sport for the evening and make the whole thing pointless.

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Anglers argue you need to get a landowner's permission to use

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stretches of river running through private property and they say

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Canoe Wales said they put out a statement support -- supporting the

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right of their members to Qunu wherever they want to. But that is

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misleading because people do not have that right. -- two can you down

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the river. The Angling Trust say there's been

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an upsurge in unlawful canoeing as they call it - and have sent canoe

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bodies a legal letter demanding they stop publishing information

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on a general right of navigation. The land is privately owned and the

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riverbed to halfway across. As far as the water flows across -- flowing

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over that, it belongs to everyone. For many years there has been talk

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of voluntary access agreements - but both sides have accused the

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other of being unwilling to engage. It should be the government sorting

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it out. It has got close to that but there was a green paper meant to be

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released in March. But it was stopped.

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If the case does come to court it could

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prove an interesting test case, but unless an agreement is negotiated,

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The bank holiday weather forecast is coming up

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The Premier League and the Football League have a huge following here,

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but strictly speaking, the official top division in Wales

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And the new season gets under way this evening.

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Despite a rebrand, the old League of Wales still finds it hard to compete

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for coverage and sponsorship, with so much attention focused on clubs

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But league bosses says it is on the up as clubs innovate to

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The rivalry will be will sent it but this pitch is artificial. The Latham

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Park turf was ripped up and replaced with a 3G service which is being put

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to good use by club and community. 25 youth teams as well as the first

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and women's squad will be training on it. It costs just about ?400,000

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to put the new pigeon. Most of it came from a grant. -- to put the new

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pitch in. They think this model is a good one for many Welsh clubs

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providing new income streams and a better service to play on. We have

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already had lots of offers -- lots of responses to our offers to play

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on it and play matches. We should be able to make a profit and keep the

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club on an even keel. Money is still tight, the only full-time

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professionals are the champions. But the other size and think the gap is

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closing with a wide-open race for the European places which can earn a

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club more than ?100,000. Being full-time, that is what every really

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needs to do to improve Wales football. That will attract

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sponsors. And being more organised and having time with their players

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will attract people. The proponents of the Welsh league say that their

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product is better than it has been given credit for. The capture of one

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Welsh striker by Dagenham and Redbridge is proof of improving

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standards. The average crowd last season was 300 people. And teams are

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increasingly concentrated in north, west and mid Wales. The cost of

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travelling around the country is just too much for many clubs who

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might want to join. You can guarantee every Saturday is ?1000

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for a coach and maybe ?500 for a hotel. A club has to find ?1500 even

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before any playing budget. So a big amount of money spent. The chance to

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compete in Europe remains a bigger sensor for all clubs but as

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Aberystwyth town found to their cost this summer, they are still behind

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other leagues in other countries. But that will not prevent other

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people trying to get there. Another Welsh athlete has won

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a medal for Great Britain at the IPC European Athletics

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Championships in Swansea. Josie Pearson from Hay-on-Wye -

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who's the reigning Paralaympic discus champion -

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won silver in the club throw, missing out on gold to fellow

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British athlete Joanna Butterfield. It was the tenth medal won by Welsh

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competitors at the Championships. In the last ten minutes, Jemma Lowe

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has missed out on a medal in the swimming.

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She was racing in the final of the 100 metres butterly, and had been

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hoping to emulate her team-mates Jazz Carlin and Georgia Davies who

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Davies took bronze in the 100 metrres backstroke, while Carlin won

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gold, as she did in the Commonwealth Games, in the 800 metres freestyle.

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I knew it would be quite tough. But to do a PD like that, it was a great

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race. To come out on top, I am so happy, I can't believe it. When you

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come here, when you have overcome the lows and the hard times, and you

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get a medal. The world's top sailors are

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in the Welsh capital this weekend for the British leg of the

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Extreme Sailing Series. Olympic and America's Cup legend,

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Sir Ben Ainslie, The competition sees elite teams

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from around the world battle it out The organisers promise adrenalin

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fuelled race action - as these 40-foot vessels compete

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around a tight marine circuit. The carbon-hulled catamarans reach

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speeds normally only seen Skippering the British team

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the most successful sailor in Olympic history,

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Sir Ben Ainslie - who believes the sport is a real spectacle

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for those watching on dry land. It is a great venue for this type of

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venue. It's very tight for the spectators. When the sun is out,

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come down and watch. They are very fast, extreme physical boats. So the

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spectators get a chance to see that close the action, a lot of crashes.

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Hopefully involving arson! -- not involving our boats.

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With up to eight races a day - the organisers promise plenty

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of action during the four-day event - which is the centrepiece

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There are several boats taking part in this which began in Singapore and

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will end in Sydney. On the British crew is a young Welsh

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sailor who's delighted to be I started off saying on my local

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beach. 40 foot catamarans are a lot more extreme. It is a great series

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for people to come down and watch. It is always special to be in front

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of a home crowd. The British team start this

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series in sixth position. When the event's over here

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in Cardiff they hope to have climbed the rankings for the start

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of the next leg in Istanbul. The weather looks great for sailing.

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Most of us were looking forward to the bank holiday weekend.

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It is looking good, no heatwaves but fine conditions especially in the

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first half of the weekend. Fine and dry but Chile by night. Wet and

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windy conditions heading our way on Monday. Plenty of dry weather, just

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a few showers coming in the Irish Sea to parts of the north and west.

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It will be a cold night. High pressure is building bringing a

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settled day and a fine start to the weekend. Then low-pressure takes

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charge as we go into Sunday night and Monday as well. For the start of

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the weekend tomorrow morning, quite chilly, but we can look forward to

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some sunshine. By the afternoon, just the odd isolated shower across

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parts of the north and east. For the majority of us, a fine day. Feeling

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cool. If you are going to this event, it is looking fine and dry.

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Sunny spells in the afternoon. A fine evening which will become very

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chilly indeed. We could see a touch of frost in some spots in the early

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hours of Sunday morning. Then it will start a cloud over in the

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evening and Weatherford approaches and with that comes a little bit of

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range. -- a weather front approaches. That band of rain will

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go eastwards on Monday. There will be some dry interludes. At least it

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is looking good for Saturday and Sunday. So make the most of it.

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Sunday night, a little bit of rain. Monday, sunshine and showers by the

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time we get to Tuesday. As well. The main news, not enough is being

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done to prevent Muslims being radicalised here and in the UK --

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and across the UK. Kim Howells has said successive UK governments and

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the communities themselves are partly to blame.

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That is Wales Today. Have a great bank holiday weekend.

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