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Three soldiers died as a result of neglect on an SAS training

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Now, the Ministry of Defence is to face the highest possible

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The march was held here on one of the hottest days of 2013.

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The Health and Safety Executive say the MoD failed to manage the risks.

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Also tonight - he flew to the United States to rape

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Tonight, this former lifeguard from Gwynedd is starting

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The child has insisted they had multiple compensations about it and

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she had informed him she was ten years of age. -- conversations.

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The cost of tackling serious crime, the debate if policing

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And a familiar accent on a BBC primetime show.

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But there are calls for the corporation to spend

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millions more on programmes that better reflect Welsh life

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The Ministry of Defence is to be given the strongest reprimand

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possible over the deaths of three soldiers in the Brecon Beacons.

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Reservists Edward Maher, James Dunsby and Craig Roberts

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collapsed on what was one of the hottest day of 2013,

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The Health and Safety Executive has announced it's to pass it

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The law does not allow the MoD to be prosecuted.

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It is the toughest of testing grounds, the Brecon Beacons in any

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weather can be unforgiving but on the hottest day of summer in 2013,

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three young men on selection for the SAS lost their lives. The inquest

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into the deaths of reserve fists Craig Roberts, James Dunsby and

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Edward Maher found neglect played a part in their deaths. Today the

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Health and Safety Executive has published its findings, saying the

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MOD would have faced prosecution for the failings if it did not have

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Crown immunity. At the end of the inquest, the families were clear

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they believe the Ministry of Defence last sight of its own values. They

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displayed no responsibility, no accountability and no humility for

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their role in creating the culture which led to the events of the 13th

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of July 20 13. Even an ounce of this would have gone such a long way in

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acknowledging the vast catalogue of errors which were so clearly made.

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So what went wrong? The men set off on the 16 mile march just before

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seven, all carrying GPS trackers so the commanders could track their

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movements. By the time Craig Roberts reached checkpoint five, two

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soldiers had already been withdrawn with heat illness. He collapsed just

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a few hundred metres from the finish line. Edward Maher took a different

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route. His GPS tracker stop moving for almost two hours before anyone

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noticed. James Dunsby was also on the final leg of his March. He had

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been down for more than an hour before the medics arrived. The

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investigation by the Health and Safety Executive found at a failure

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to plan to assess and to manage the risks during the training which took

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lace up here resulted in their deaths. These failures they also

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found caused ten more soldiers on the March Saturday to suffer heat

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illness. In a statement they say: the Ministry of Defence has

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acknowledged the censure and apologised for the failings. In a

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statement they have said that they made improvements to reduce risks

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and an enquiry is underway to identify further lessons to be

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learned. They say their thoughts remain with the family.

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A former lifeguard from Gwynedd has been jailed for 50 years by a judge

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in America, for raping a ten-year-old girl.

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22-year-old Gareth Vincent Hall from Talysarn met the girl online,

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and flew to the United States, where he committed a number

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He continues to be the subject of a separate police investigation

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Police arrested Gareth Vincent Hall. Gareth Vincent Hall admitted four

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counts of rape, two further serious sexual offences and sexual

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corruption of a child online last month. He travelled to Oregon in

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April last year to see the ten-year-old girl after making

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contact online and spent five days in various motels meeting her

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readily. He told prosecutors he thought she was 17. He made a claim

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he thought she was close to the age of majority which from the

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prosecutor 's standpoint seemed pretty ridiculous. The child has

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insisted over and over again that they had multiple conversations

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about it and that she had in fact informed him she was ten years of

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age. He was arrested when he tried to re-enter the USA in Chicago

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following a complaint to police from the girl 's family. A judge said he

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was getting the sentence he deserved. But the lengthy statements

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-- centres does not necessarily mean the end of a separate investigation

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by North Wales Police into alleged online offences committed by Gareth

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Vincent Hall here. In a statement it says the devices seized from Gareth

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Vincent Hall have yet to be properly examined and until they are rigged

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would be inappropriate to comment further. Gareth Vincent Hall worked

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as a light -- lifeguard at this leisure centre. Gwynedd Council say

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no complaints made against him there. There had been concern from

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the FBI that Gareth Vincent Hall had made efforts from his home in

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Talysarn to contact other girls via the Internet. His family were in

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court to watch the sentencing hearing anti-used a Welsh language

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interpreter during proceedings. Wales would still receive economic

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aid for its poorest areas, even if Britain votes

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to leave the European Union. That's according to the leader

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of the Welsh Conservatives, Last week, the Prime Minister told

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this programme voters could not be certain that the UK Government

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would spend the same amount here, Well, let's discuss this

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with our political correspondent, And today's comment seems

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to contradict David Cameron? Yes, we are talking about these

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European Union funds that are used to give a need boost to those parts

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of Wales that are quite a bit poorer than the average. ?1.8 billion will

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be coming to Wales shortly. When he was here last week, David Cameron

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said if the UK left the European Union committee was not sure what

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would happen to that money. Were we to leave, I believe

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there could be quite We might see higher interest rates,

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we might see higher unemployment, And in those circumstances,

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of course the United Kingdom government would always want to do

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everything it could for all the different parts

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of the United Kingdom and you cannot guarantee these things

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because we might be in quite Mr Davies says that would not be the

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case. Yes, he wants us to leave the European Union and the point there

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is this is not the European Union 's money, it is UK money sent to the

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European Union. Speaking to the Wales report programme this evening,

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he says he is almost certain that many would still be there.

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I can guarantee that a UK Government would make sure that many would be

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redistributed around the regions of the United Kingdom,

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otherwise it would be failing in its re-met to deliver health

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and support to the nation that it is elected to govern

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and frankly, we cannot continue with operation fear,

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of driving people into the ballot box because you are scaring them

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Take out the sort of white heat of a referendum campaign and what you

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have is David Cameron saying he thinks if we leave the European

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Union that the economy would go through a difficult patch so he is

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not ruling out that they would be more money coming to those poorest

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parts of Wales but that the same time you have Andrew Arty Davies

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saying the money would come but he is not saying how much money would

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come all-weather that many could be spent anyway that you want to. Can

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you have a cast-iron guarantee that the same money would come to Wales?

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Probably not. But could there be more money because there will be

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more money in the cough is? Probably yes but you cannot say anything more

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than that. Much more on this story

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on the Wales Report, with Huw Edwards, is

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on BBC One Wales at 10:40pm. The bullet which killed a young

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Welsh soldier could have been fired by her or someone else,

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an inquest into her death has heard. Cheryl James from Llangollen died

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from a bullet to the head A German ballistics expert told

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Woking Coroner's Court that the bullet was

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fired at close range. Former footballer Ched Evans

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will have his appeal for his rape conviction heard

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in three weeks' time. The former Wales international

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was jailed for five years in 2012 after being found guilty of raping

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a 19-year-old woman at a hotel A Coroner has found that medication

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prescribed to a pensioner from Swansea did not

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cause her death. 80-year-old Patricia Thomas died

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in October 2013 after a severe bleed A narrative verdict was recorded

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by Paul Bennett, who believes the effects Warfarin and miconazole

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gel may have contributed A preventing further deaths report

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has been ordered by the coroner. She was such a special person, a

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wonderful mother and grandmother. Our grief at her loss has been made

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worse by the devastating evidence that we have heard during this

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inquest that her dentist and her pharmacist made fundamental errors

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in prescribing and dispensing medicine.

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The ability to tackle serious crime would require "huge" investment,

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That's according to the Police and Crime Commissioner for Gwent.

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Ian Johnston believes Welsh officers would have to go cap in hand

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to England to access expertise like the National Crime Agency,

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But not every Police and Crime Commissioner here agrees.

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Wales versus France in Cardiff on a Friday night.

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Policed by around a hundred officers and a few horses.

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And while events like this aren't unique to Wales,

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the Welsh Government believes policing here could be improved

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But could serious crime like this be tackled as effectively?

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These drugs came from an Albanian crime group smuggled to a Welsh

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The gang was brought down by Gwent Police

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But the man responsible for the Gwent force believes

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the ability to fight serious crime and other specialist skills would be

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There is a real danger that we will have local policing

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in Wales, which is covered, but if we need anything at a higher

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level, whether it be the National Crime Agency,

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some parts of the criminal justice system, we will have to look

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to England and we will be isolated and we could actually

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And the Welsh Police and Crime Commissioners,

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who are up for re-election in May, are split on the matter.

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Ian Johnston in Gwent doesn't want policing devolved.

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Nor does Christopher Salmon in Dyfed Powys.

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But Alun Michael in South Wales does want policing devolved.

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Winston Roddick in North Wales is also broadly in favour.

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Unless it can be demonstrated that devolving responsibility

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for the police would result in a deterioration

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in the effectiveness and efficiency of the police service then

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In Westminster yesterday, Plaid Cymru said devolving policing

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was the only way to address community needs in Wales.

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Keith Vaz, the Chair of the influential

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Home Affairs Committee, said he believes Wales does

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This is what the fight against crime and terrorism looks

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like in Scotland, which has full power over policing and justice.

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The ?75 million Scottish Crime Campus.

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One expert here believes the Welsh Government wouldn't have

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to spend money like that, but would have to appoint policing

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ministers and civil servants, which could lead to wider mergers.

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The natural step forward if we had policing policy in Cardiff would be

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perhaps the formation of a national police force for

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Now, I don't see there being a Welsh College of policing.

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What I see is it might be a hub, regional hub, that is linked

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It's said there's a growing desire among senior officers here to see

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But the UK Government says PCCs already have that power and it

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won't be handing control of the police to Cardiff Bay.

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Still to come on the programme, tonight's sport with Iwan.

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The countdown to the European Championships.

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100 days before the finals in France.

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And we'll catch up with the World Champion from Barry,

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who dreams of a title fight at a sold out Principalty Stadium.

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The BBC should spend more on programmes that reflect

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That's the verdict of an inquiry by Assembly Members into the future

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It's called on the BBC to invest an extra ?30 million

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in new productions, and it wants more Welsh people to feature

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on programmes that are broadcast across the UK.

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Here's our arts and media correspondent, Huw Thomas.

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If someone had given me that when I was 17, I would have bitten their

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hand off. Swansea City of back playing in North London tonight.

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Despite taking the lead, they lost to toss a number, but a win would

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let them six points clear of relegation -- Tottenham. It'll be

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the first major football tournament for Wales 1958 World Cup. It's been

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a long wait, and before a ball has been kicked, club say they are

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seeing a benefit at a grassroots level. It was a fairly subdued

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affair in Paris this morning, as five men in suits gathered around

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the trophy to mark 100 days until kick-off. A far cry from the scenes

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in Bosnia for mums ago when Wales learned they had qualified their

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first major tournament in A.D60 years. It has had a positive impact

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on football teams around the country. Here, the chairman of the

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University club says they are already seeing the benefits. You can

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see how it is bleeding down to the grassroots level, everyone is

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enjoying it. It has been beneficial. We felt that, even in the fourth

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tier. It has been a long and frustrating wait for the fans, and

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to add to the sense of excitement, Wales have been paired with England

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in the group stage. Getting England was massive, but as long as we have

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got Gareth Vale we can do anything. I'm very excited. These five aside

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teams are gearing up too, and believe it could be down to one man.

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We have Gareth Vale, and he is the key. -- Bale Chris Coleman is a top

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manager. Organisers of the competition say the terrorist

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attacks in Paris have forced them to strengthen security, but stressed

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there when thinking of playing matches behind closed doors about

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bands, which had been reported. But security concerns have not deterred

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funds, and that this travel agency, the phone has been ringing off the

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book. It has been busy this past few weeks. The first game against Novak

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your household out. We have two chartered aircraft -- against

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Slovakia has sold out. After more than one month out of playing, Bale

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is back playing. Just 100 days until Europe's best teams do battle to

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determine who will lift the trophy. Can't wait. Onto boxing, and Lee

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Selby says fighting at the stadium in Cardiff would be a dream come

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true. The boxer will defend his title against Eric under next month,

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but then hopes for a world title showdown in front of a sell-out home

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crowd. He didn't even have time to stop his rigorous training sessions,

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but between bouts, the world champion was able to share words of

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wisdom to date with keen athletes. As well as the daily routine, the

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main topic of conversation was his next mandatory fight. He will defend

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his title against American Eric Hunter next month. He is the number

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one champion, he is a good fighter. He is from Philadelphia soapbox is

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that the traditional style. It has not been confirmed, but it will

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probably be at the O2 Arena on the 9th of April. After that, he hopes

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he can perform in front of a sell-out, home crowd. You have seen

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the big fight on the weekend. I'm more than tempted to fight against

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them. 80,000 people. It would be amazing. That your preference? Yes,

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it would be nice. I am in a great position, two great fight is calling

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me out. He has certainly made a name for himself in the featherweight

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boxing circles. But it has taken hard work and dedication. His

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attitude is an inspiration for these young students. This is a big shock,

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definitely. Honestly it is true because of where he is now. It is

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eight tough ask. It is a big ask, you trained a lot. He has impressed

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me. There's been a long line of famous Welsh boxers. Lee Selby has

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his sights on becoming one of the greats. That is your sport, time for

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a weather check. It has been a day of wintry showers and strong winds.

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Some very strong gusts, 81 mph, 77, and a much quieter day in store for

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tomorrow. Largely dry with some bright spells. Tonight, winds not a

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strong but remaining blustery. Wintry showers will slowly ease,

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generally turning dry overnight. An ice and frost risk first thing

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tomorrow. A respite tomorrow, spell of dry weather before this next

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front pushes from the Atlantic late in the day. An early frost and ice

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risk, but a quieter, drier day. Any showers easing with a brighter

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spells, variable cloud but turning cloudy later wish I was pushing in

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from the west as that next front arise. Lighter winds, but still on

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the chilly side, six Celsius, eight in Newport. This weather front

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proves problematic on Friday. It pushes through overnight and then

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swings Brack overnight, bringing rain and snow. Tomorrow night, a

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band of rain, sleet and a warning of snow above 200 metres, especially

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across North Wales, as that front moves through. Colder weather nice

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rest, and then fried is cold. Maybe try a further south, but the

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position of this front could change, so a wintry feel for the end of the

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first week of spring, but looking colder and more settled as we head

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into the weekend. Our top story tonight, the Ministry of Defence

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will be given a strongest reprimand possible over the deaths of three

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soldiers in the Brecon Beacons. They collapse on one of the hottest days

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of 2013 whilst on an SAS selection exercise. I'll have a quick update

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at eight and a four round up at ten, but that is it for now. Goodbye. --

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a full round-up.

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