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Tonight's headlines: In his first major speech on the EU Referendum,

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the First Minister says it's a more 'fundamental moment' than the vote

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I have spent a lot of my time talking to businesses in Wales,

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I have spent a lot of time talking to businesses that want

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It comes as the Leave campaign focuses on small businesses,

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saying they'd be better off out of the EU.

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A BBC Wales investigation revealed a recruitment agent for a private

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college in Cardiff saying they could lie about qualifications.

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Now an inquiry finds a number of failings there.

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And the expectations of a nation may be on his shoulders.

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But Gareth Bale insists Wales are not a one man team,

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as the Euro 2016 opener against Slovakia gets ever closer.

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I want to enjoy myself on the football pitch, like you do when

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The Welsh squad here now, we get on so well, we are like

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It is there for a reason, we do not just

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The First Minister says the question of whether to remain in or leave

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the EU is a bigger decision than the 1997 vote to create

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In a speech in Swansea tonight, Carwyn Jones set out

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in detail why he thinks we should remain in the EU.

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He said the referendum, which will be held two weeks today,

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is a 'fundamental', 'forever choice'.

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His speech focussed on jobs, with a warning that Brexit

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could jeopardise the sale of Tata Steel here.

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I have spent a lot of my time talking to businesses in Wales,

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I have spent a lot of time talking to businesses that want

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They come here because they get access to the European

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Wales is too small a market for them.

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If we can't be part of that market, they are not going to come,

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they are not going to stay, and that means people

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like Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage will still have their jobs

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but workers in Wales, many of them won't.

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The Leave campaign has also been focussing on the economy,

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saying life would be easier for small businesses outside the EU.

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Our political reporter Paul Martin is in Swansea.

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What did the First Minister have to say tonight?

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A speech that focused loosely on jobs and the economy with very

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little mention of migration. It was made this evening to an audience of

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Labour politicians and activists. Preaching to the converted really

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because Welsh Labour Assembly Members and MPs are very much united

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on the remain side of the argument. In contrast, of course, with Labour

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voters. They are divided on this question. That throws up a question

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for Welsh Labour, why is it not managing to convince more of its

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voters that it is on the right side of this argument? Another question

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is its level of activity in this campaign. Carwyn Jones admit that

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the party has been playing catch-up on this since the election. Tonight

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we heard a pretty impassioned case for membership but I ask Carwyn

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Jones why it has taken so long for us to hear this kind of speech from

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him. His response was the campaign is a more local one but he did also

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admit that in the wake of the election, it has been difficult for

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the remain side in Wales to forge a clear cross-party campaign. And what

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about the leave campaign? What have they had to say? At a UK level

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today, they started the day on the front back foot. But they have been

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focusing on small businesses in Wales. Their message today was that

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small businesses would do better outside the EU because in part it

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would be easier for small businesses to bid for big public procurement

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contracts. This feeds into the narrative on the economy that it is

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a David versus Goliath, small business versus big business. The

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remain side project that said of course. We caught up earlier with

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former Welsh Secretary David Jones and we did find one point of

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agreement between him and the First Minister and that is on the

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magnitude of this question. This is the biggest

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decision of our lifetime. This is far more important than any

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referendum we have had since 1975, far more important

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than any general election or assembly election because this

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will determine whether or not Britain becomes

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an independent country again or whether we become part

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of what will be an increasingly powerful

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European Union, which will be well

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on the And the next high-profile moment in

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this campaign comes very soon. In an hour and a half, a live debate on

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ITV. Three senior figures from each side. The vote itself is two weeks

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away. The real issue in Wales has been the

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funding that poorer areas get. The remain camp says if we go, there is

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no guarantee Westminster would offer the same sort of financial support.

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The leave camp insists it would and there would be more cash to hand

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out. Here is our economic 's correspondent.

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Harps have been made like this was centuries.

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But worried the skills could be lost, Alan Shears was keen

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to expand his business and take on new staff to make

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In 2004, he was awarded more than 1 million in cash

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Around two thirds of it from the EU's objective one funds.

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This money, now called convergence funding, is available to the poorest

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areas of Europe and one of them is West Wales the valleys.

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This money you have had from the European Union,

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what has it enabled you to do that you could not have done otherwise?

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Well, I think as a man in a shed making harps with his hands and very

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basic machinery, it was kind of limited and also the potential

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These kind of community schemes are quite thin on the ground,

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so it creates employment for the people and the language

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stays, the culture, the families stay together,

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so it is a reason for staying rather than people leaving the country

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There is now a team of six making both folk and concert harps

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Since 2000, Wales has received ?4 billion in structural funds.

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West Wales and the valleys has qualified for the highest

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The debate between the leave and remain camps is not

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about the merits of this special funding but if it is better coming

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The record of European support has been stronger and more robust

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We have seen over the last four years 1500 jobs being created,

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new jobs being created because of this money from Europe,

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1300 jobs have been supported, and hundreds of new enterprises

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It is an integral part of the economic needs of this area.

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But the leave campaign says if we vote to get out of the EU,

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the UK Government would still give cash to four areas like Ceredigion,

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The support is coming through the European system

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but let's not forget that many is UK tax payers' money that has gone in,

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But if we are outside the European Union, then Westminster

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has got a look at it properly and look at it

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If we left the EU, would West Wales and the valleys get many millions

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of pounds in special funding from the UK Government?

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And if we remain, will that lucrative relationship

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In the end, it is a very personal decision about who we believe.

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One thing is for sure, even if we vote to stay in,

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Wales may not get this special funding when it is

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To get it, we would have to be one of the poorest places in EU again.

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And, later in the programme, we'll be in Newport and Swansea,

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where Leave and Remain campaigners have been trying to answer your

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A former South Wales Police officer has been found guilty

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45-year-old Jeffrey Davies was a serving officer in the Rhondda

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when he raped the women in 2002 and 2003.

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He was dismissed from the force in 2013 after being convicted

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A fresh row has broken out between Ukip's group

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leader in the Assembly, Neil Hamilton and the party's leader

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Mr Hamilton says Mr Gill, who is also a Member

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of the European Parliament, should not double job,

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if he cannot fully commit to Cardiff Bay.

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It follows Nathan Gill's attack on Neil Hamilton for offering

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support to the Welsh Government's plans for an M4 relief road.

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Gareth Bale has dismissed the notion Wales are a one-man team,

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as he prepares to lead their Euro 2016 campaign.

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Let's get the latest from Iwan Griffiths,

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Gareth Bale says he doesn't feel under any more pressure than any

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of his other team mates, despite the huge

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Just two days now before Wales face Slovakia in what will be their first

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match at a major tournament since the 1958 World Cup.

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He underlined the importance of the whole squad.

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They're like brothers he says, urging them to make

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Standing by with enthusiasm at a theatre full of journalists.

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At last given an opportunity to interview the most expensive

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The first few questions came from Dylan and Morgan

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from Gareth Bale 's former school, Whitchurch high.

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We are all really excited about the game on Saturday.

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How much information are you getting on the feeling from back home?

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Yes, obviously, we are all looking forward to it first and foremost

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and the whole nation is looking forward to it and we hope

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He scored seven of Wales' 11 goals qualifying for Euro 2016 but insists

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they are not a one-man team and appears calm when reminded

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he has the expectations of a nation resting on his shoulders.

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For me, I want to go out and play football, I want to enjoy myself

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And the Welsh side here now, we all get on so well.

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We are friends, we joke around, we play together.

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With a Foreign Office warning for travelling fans to remain

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vigilant in light of potential terrorist attacks, Gareth Bale

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was asked about his concerns, specifically when it came

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You obviously have fears about your friends and family coming

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You just have to kind of put the back of your mind.

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You cannot let these things stop your life, I guess.

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It is for us to try and continue as normal.

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We want to concentrate on the football and hopefully

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everything else around us gets sorted.

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There is two days now before that opening game against Slovakia.

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The main concern here is that Chris Coleman on Saturday can pick

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And although David Vaughan sat out of this session, it is believed

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Joe Ledley, Joe Allen and Hal Robson-Kanu

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Good news, less than 48 hours before Wales embark on their historic

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Well, tomorrow the squad fly towards Bordeaux. We will have the latest

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from there later in the programme. But for now, from Brittany, back to

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you, Lucy. An inquiry into the running

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of a private college in Cardiff has found a number of failings,

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and called for improvements It follows a BBC Wales Week In Week

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Out investigation last year, which recorded a recruiting agent

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for the West London Vocational Training College telling

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an undercover reporter they could cheat in their coursework

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and lie about qualifications. The programme broadcast in December

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showed a reporter posing as a student being told

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they could fake certificates They could pay for someone else

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to do their assignment, they were told, and could

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lie to get funding. That led the body which is charged

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with maintaining standards in higher education,

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the quality assurance agency, I think it is fair to say

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that the problems we have As the report makes clear,

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we reviewed the providers against something called the UK

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quality code for higher education, which is a framework or a list

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of requirements that we would expect any provider to adhere to and this

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particular college is falling short in a number of those areas

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in the quality code, The report found that a significant

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number of students were not properly It found the procedures

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for the appointment of staff proved Investigators did not find any

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specific evidence that students were advised to fake qualifications

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or pay for a assignment is beyond what was in the BBC

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programme but they say weaknesses in the college's processes made

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it vulnerable to this The college is based in London

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but it opened a Cardiff campus over three floors in this office

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block last summer. When the allegations came to light,

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the Welsh Government stopped payments for grants and loans but it

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had already paid over ?500,000 The government has welcomed today's

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report but it says while a police investigation into alleged fraud

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is ongoing, it cannot Questions should now be asked

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about the oversight of private colleges like this and attempts made

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to recover public money, I think we need to recoup every

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penny that has gone to this college which should not have

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gone to the college. At the moment, that is not

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being talked about. There is no clear recommendation

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about that but frankly, I don't think that taxpayers should

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have to stand the cost of the abuse It now has four weeks to produce

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an action plan for improvements. Should we leave or remain

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in the European Union? It's a big question we face leading

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to hundreds of other questions. So, with the EU referendum on June

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the 23rd fast approaching, our political reporter

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James Williams took leading Welsh campaigners from both sides

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of the debate to try Two cities, two campaigns, and with

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just two weeks to go, there is still plenty of questions to be answered.

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In terms of the Borders, will it really have a massive effect if we

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stay or leave quizzing mark we do control our borders now. If you go

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to France, you can slip into Spain and you do not have to show your

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passport. The bull who coming to Britain have to show their passport.

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There are more people coming here than are going out. That is true. We

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can support ourselves? They are coming here because they have

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nothing there. They do not have to be here. What about the evidence

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that suggests that immigrants contribute to this society? Out of

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250,000, there are about 3000, a lot of them are doctors and nurses. I am

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just saying we cannot cope with the amount of people that are coming

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over here. The open borders, that is what I am saying. It is all very

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well for David Cameron, living in leafy suburbs, they do lots live in

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what we live. I just want to stay in. Because I think with would be

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better for us. She was only over here for a number of years.

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Discussions like this are taking place right across the country.

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People are really enthused about this referendum. We are told it is

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one of the biggest decisions we face as a country for generations and it

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seems that people really grasp that. How do you see the economy after if

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we left? I see it as being absolutely fine. We would have a lot

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more money to play with. We would have an extra ?9 billion per year

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and secondly, the idea that the European Union is gone to stop

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trading with us is nonsense. There are no tariffs at the moment, being

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part of the EU. You cannot guarantee that would be the case. I cannot

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guarantee but the country we do the most business with his America and

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we do not have any trade agreement with America. We just want to know

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how it would affect us in our day-to-day lives. It is all well and

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good looking at the bigger picture. What you have to remember is that

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most of the people who read the economy, they are saying, look,

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there will be a hit to the economy. What proof is there that we will be

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better off or not better off? We are a net payer. That is the UK as a

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whole and Wales is considered to receive more than we pay in. Wales

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receives more than we pay in. It is my birthday today. Happy birthday.

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My opinion is that I think we should stay in. Have you decided how you

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are going to vote? Alt, absolutely. Do you have any questions? No, just

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out. It is the economy and immigration at the top of people's

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concerns but the US referendum is a compact question with very few easy

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answers. And if you want to find out more, there is everything you need

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to know on the BBC website. Just follow the link.

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It's two days to go before Wales kick off their campaign.

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Now it's to Bordeaux where they face Slovakia on Saturday

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Less than 48 hours away from Wales' opening game here in Bordeaux.

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And from the number of Wales flags in the bars, cafes

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and restaurant of this city, it's clear that the people

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of Bordeaux are ready to welcome Wales, welcome Pays de Galles.

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The fans are enjoying Bordeaux, basking in summer sunshine.

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They've endured many near misses in the past.

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None more painful than the qualifying campaign

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Terry Yorath was in charge, Paul Bodin missed a crucial penalty.

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The team's star striker then Ian Rush.

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He's been speaking to our reporter Kate Morgan, reflecting on past

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failures and looking forward to what could be a memorable summer

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When I was playing, my dream was to play for Wales

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And for your country not to qualify was a big disappointment.

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But when you finish playing football then, then you still have a dream

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in the gene was to see Wales qualify so I think it is an incredible

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achievement and really, really looking forward

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It is a new experience, not just for the players

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Looking ahead then to the first game, it is going to be

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Slovakia have just got a warm up result against Germany.

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Everyone talks about the England game but the first game for me

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If you lose the first game, you are playing catch up.

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It puts more pressure on the manager to attack more.

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For me, I think it is not the group of death but Slovakia

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You are not too worried about the England game.

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When you have got to British teams, you are not going to get a European

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game, you are going to get a full on 100 mph game and I think Wales

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So we'll England, but I think Wales have got defensively...

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They have been fantastic in the qualifiers.

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But I think with Ashley Williams there, his organisation,

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They will say, listen, we know England's strikeforce is one

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of the best in Europe, to tell you the truth,

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So I think we can keep a clean sheet, we have players there well

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How far then do you think Wales can go in this tournament?

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I think Wales and England can both qualify from the group.

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Wales can beat any team on their day and when you get to the knockout

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And plenty more of Ian Rush's goals feature in Wales:

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The Road To The Euros, which you can find

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This is a completely new experience for the players,

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Wales have never competed at an European Championship finals.

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But one Welsh football manager who knows exactly what to expect

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at a major tournament, Mark Sampson, the head coach

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He led his players to the semifinals of the World Cup last year.

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Carwyn Jones caught up with him to find out what Coleman's men

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From our experience, it was relentless with us,

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so I can only imagine what it will be like with the men's

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Meet the Welshman at the heart of English football,

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Cardiff 's Mark Sampson has been managing the women's

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If anyone knows the pressures of taking a team to the top

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and what lies ahead for Wales, it is him.

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Details make such a difference at these big tournaments.

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It will be a challenge for all the players because it will

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They have obviously got Gareth Bale, who is used to that.

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But I think for the other players and the staff,

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I certainly know from fact that we were very clear

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That focus led the Lionesses to the semifinals of the 2015

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Key to their success was holding their nerve.

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When you lose the first game, it is very easy to lose all momentum

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Suddenly the next game is a no tomorrow game, you know if you lose,

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You do not perform, you need to get the result.

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I am sure that Wales have got all their plans in place

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and will make sure that whatever is thrown at them

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through the tournament, they have got the answers

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to solve those problems because they will certainly come.

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The England women's team have already booked their place

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in the Euro 2017 finals, so time for Mark to think

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Look, I think Chris has got his work cut out.

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He does not need me to be asking him to do his job for him.

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But I genuinely think Wales have got a really good

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I think they are very resolute, plus the ability to have a really

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strong team spirit, certainly they have got the ability

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Tomorrow, we'll have a special programme for you, looking ahead

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to that big opening game, reflecting on the security operation

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here, which the fans will undoubtedly encounter.

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We'll also catch up with Robbie Savage and find out how

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fans unable to travel are preparing for a long summer of football back

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Slovakia, Russia and England lie in wait.

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Let's been baking hot in Bordeaux all day.

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Let's get the weather forecast back home with Sue Charles.

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Thank you very much. Today was the last of the very humid days and

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foremost it has been fine but the radar shows heavy showers through

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East Wales are some pretty dramatic skies. We start to see some changes

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tomorrow. Not as warm and generally a bit cloudy with more widespread

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showers. Tonight, this cold front moves in from the Atlantic bringing

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thicker crowd and some rain tomorrow. Tonight starting drive for

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most. Cloud thickening ahead of that front with a few showers, light

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winds and very muddy overnight. A unit start tomorrow. Still some long

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sunny spells. Not quite as warm. Temperatures back in the high teens.

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That weather front moves north-eastwards bringing showers

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overnight Friday into Saturday. Saturday is a case of sunny spells,

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a few showers. Quite humid air. Temperatures staying in the high

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teens. If you are heading to France, looking good by Saturday evening.

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Any showers should have cleared eastwards. A warm evening. Back home

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in Wales, heavier showers are likely on Sunday morning. They should clear

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through the afternoon. Bright and breezy later. Today was the last of

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the very warm days. Turning more and settled. Sunshine and showers likely

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on Saturday and Sunday and then the wind picks up, the changeable

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weather continues at the start of next week.

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And a bulletin after the News at Ten.

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